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|7 hours 45 min ago||That's possible||
You're right and it's possible. But I think his most likely trajectory is Redick, not Adam Morrison and not Ray Allen.
|8 hours 4 min ago||Trey Burke||
Trey Burke and Nik Stauskas were overdrafted. As lottery picks, one might expect them to be superstars. They won't be. But I'll bet on both becoming valuable members of NBA teams throughout their careers. Jameer Nelson for Trey Burke, and JJ Redick for Nik Stauskas (I know, I know). And those are both fine NBA careers.
Meanwhile Hardaway was drafted mid-20s and seems like he's doing great when you compare to the other two. He'll have a similar career to Burke and Nik, but get more credit because he doesn't have the "Lottery" pick tag.
McGary is a wildcard. If he's healthy I think the sky is the limit, Marc Gasol style. But these injuries keep happening.
GRIII knew the risk he was taking. He made an NBA roster and earned a guaranteed contact. I don't think he expected 20 mpg as a rookie. But he is practicing with an NBA team and coaches, and working on his game every day. It's way to early to judge whether he left "too soon," because I think his career is probably on par with any reasonable expectation so far.
Darius Morris is on an NBA roster for the 4th consecutive season. He didn't leave "too early," because it's tough to argue that he would have developed more in school than he would have playing basketball 24/7 with NBA tutors. I think he just is what he is, and NBA journeyman at best. As a second round pick he would have been easy to just discard his contact. But he's still around, and he's a millionaire.
Manny Harris did leave too early. Guy played in the NBA, and played decently. But he can't seem to find a job in the league for whatever reason. A successful senior season could have at least given him a chance with a different path.
|12 hours 23 min ago||Today||
I got into and graduated from Michigan. But I doubt I'd get in today. It gets harder and harder each year.
|12 hours 24 min ago||Come on||
That's a rookie mistake. I hope the national media lets this go because it's way to early for my Harbaugh Honeymoon to get ruined by bad PR
|13 hours 54 sec ago||5s||
I don't think Wilson will be a 5. I think he played out of necessity earlier this season, but he's an ideal 4 who is athletic enough to play some 3. Donnal can play the 5, and I'm proud of the way he's responded physically already this year, but I think he's an idea 5. Jr. Doyle, So. Cook, and Jr. Donnal as a center depth chart would give Jon Teske a very clear destiny of redshirting.
Personally I think Beilein see's Wisconsin and wants to build a surplus of big men so he can create an almost guaranteed redshirt year for his big men. He's not exactly chasing McGarys, Plumlees, Stones, or Okafors. If that's the plan, I like it. Give everybody who we see as a center that college "prep" year.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Izzo||
That's not entirely true. He's been quoted saying (paraphrasing), "Do I respect Beilein. Tremendously. Do I respect Michigan. Tremendously. Do I like them? Not one bit."
I think that's an 100% acceptable answer from a rival coach, especially considering OUR particular rivalry. He's playing his role, we'll play ours. It's more fun that way. Taking off the maize and blue goggles, I like Izzo just fine to run MSU's program.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Serious Answer||
I'll give you a serious response, since I doubt you want to take most of the advice and come across as a total a-hole on Lansing TV.
I actually do have a lot of respect for MSU. Their athletic department is extremely strong right now. And yes, I enjoy rivalaries more when both teams are strong so I'm excited that our hoops program is 'back' and I'm hoping to see our football program rebound to match their suddenly strong program.
|1 week 11 hours ago||Again||
Another opportunity for us to get on our high horse. He was being totally honest. Maybe not politically correct, but I personally react to injuries as "well that sucks for them/him, but at least there's a benefit to my team." I felt that way when Barnett went down, Rayvonte Rice, and Trevon Jackson.
|1 week 1 day ago||Hatch||
Calling Hatch healthy is definitely a stretch.
|2 weeks 6 hours ago||No||
No, because that's a slap in the face and a step down for a guy with a bright future in coaching. I want to keep Roy, but the coaching carousel has other openings. He'll land as a position coach with a decent BCS conference team
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Who cares?||
Nothing for me to get upset about or laugh at here.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Btw||
My other post isn't a shot at you by any means. I just don't think there were any clues besides his plan to return. I'll be a hypocrite by speculating that he left the team to support somebody rather this deal with his own issues. Who knows though. Glad he's back, and hope it's all under control.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I think||
I think it's best not to speculate, but reading between the lines it seemed like a family thing rather than a personal thing. Glad to see he's back.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||UA||
Football is fine but their hoops gear is supposedly way behind. Nike is the best choice, and I'd take Adidas hoops over UA. Wouldn't hate it, but Nike is the only sure upgrade.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Poor logic||
I can't give a figure, but most coaches don't coach the position they played in college. That's just a simpleton argument.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||These type of comments||
You write "JH would never" when you mean "Can't see JH doing"... He might just let Manning coach the DBs. How do you know what he would never do, Kawakami?
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Roster||
I agree that it shouldn't mean anything for the QBs on the current roster. But in this case, the hype for Rosen seems to match Harbaugh and we have a pretty highly regarded QB currently committed. I didn't say we were giving up on Malzone by wanting Rosen, but we also don't talk about him much when discussing QB woes. Rosen on the other hand comes up all the time despite barely being realistic.
Just a bird in hand vs two in the bush type thing.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Mora||
I think there may be some smoke here, as far as him leaving.
It would help us with Clark and KLS. But Rosen isn't coming. Let's get excited about the local kid with a winning pedigree who never wavered from his Michigan commitment when he had every reason to reconsider.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||No||
An Ohio State quarterback will not be transferring to Michigan. It's not going to happen. Stop with these posts.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Max||
I love the fight from Max right there.
And it's more pronounced because the success of our last two teams, but this squad makes offense look so hard.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Plan B||
I have a inside source that I consider very reliable who says that Hackett's top 4 was Jim, Les, Mora Jr., and Sean Payton...not necessarily in that order. Payton's reps did reach out, and apparently Mora and UCLA are not in a completely happy marriage.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Delete||
Who cares, and finding out would be an invasion of privacy in my opinion.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Low Variance||
I expect our run game to be A caliber, and our defense to be very strong as well. Our passing game will be a question mark; but if we can get steady play from the QBs, I think Butt and Darboh can be chain movers.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Good post||
And can be summed up by
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I'm cool with it||
He was with Michigan for 8 months - and was able to work with our players for about 5 of those months. In our society of instant gratification, we expect him to reach his potential instantly. But it takes longer than that to coach what was by all means a young offense. And frankly, Gardner handcuffed him as well.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Sucks||
I know Hunter, and he's a good dude. I don't agree with many of his recent comments and he might not feel the pulse of the fan base...but like Hoke, this is a good guy who just lost his job. Let's accept the decision for what it is (decent news from a fan perspective) but also recognize that it's a guy with small children who are going to move for the second time in like 5 years. No need to put a middle finger in the man's face if you see him in public.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Wrong||
Mora Jr. and Stoops are in play. Maybe not "likely" but let's stop kidding ourselves, we don't know anything. Those guys are definitely an option to some extent.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Max||
Max reclassified as a senior and will almost certainly be playing his 5th year elsewhere.
Not that there is a huge difference in our offense, but I see Dawkins as more of a 3/4 than a 2/3 (response to guy a few posts above). The 3 and 4 are pretty similar in our offense ("right hand" vs. "left hand" corner basically). But the 2 (whatever you want to call it) seems to require some point guard play and superb ball handling. Stauskas and LeVert are the best examples of this. Therefore, Duncan seems like more of a 3/4 himself. Irvin and Chatman have the capacity to be that type of player, but it's too early to count on that. Assuming LeVert does bolt, we're looking at Walton, Spike, and MAAR as the three guys with that primary ball handler ability. PJ Dozier would have been a perfect fit as that big off the ball guy who can play PG. Since we didn't get him...well, lets home MAAR has a productive offseason or Irvin and Chatman can grow into that role. Chatman in particular had the reputation of being a great facilitator and ballhandler in high school.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Off Topic||
This doesn't mention Hoke, Hackett, Harbaugh, Hire, Head Coach, or even use the letter H. This should be off-topic.
Edit: The letter H is used once. That's not enough.
|8 weeks 12 hours ago||Our guys||
Your wish will be granted since Hoke will meet with our guys immediately after learning his fate.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I will||
I will watch the games and cheer as usual, hoping we can right the ship. I'm just not that petty to boycott my favorite team because they haven't been winning and the coach we blame is still there in year 5.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Proximity||
They're moving to Plymouth, not Boston...or even Grand Rapids. I think recruiting will be minimally affected.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I dunno who came first||
But the hilarity and short term high of Raback's post made it more memorable for me. Plus it rolls off the...keyboard.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Ha no||
But autocorrect exists now. I raback it. Is Megan Fox still desirable? Last I saw her was "This is 40," so I'll take it.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Gone||
Should he go? That's up for debate. Is he gone? Yes. I will Barack that.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Sanity||
For the sake of our sanity? If your sanity depends on who is coaching Michigan, you need a wake up call. R-E-L-A-X. His bed is made and he'll be gone soon. Don't go insane because it might be next Monday instead of tomorrow. Football is a game, let's all chill out and over invest in basketball instead
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Ann Arbor||
If you're in Ann Arbor, I encourage you to layer up as if you were boarding a boat in the Arctic Circle. There is no Dave Brandon anymore. This team - especially our seniors - deserve a show of support from the fans. I know it's not that simple for anybody, but I would hate for them to go out in front of a half-full Michigan Stadium after such a roller coaster career. Go Blue.
|10 weeks 12 hours ago||Hoke||
You have unreasonable expectations of Hoke. He gathered all the info possible, and made a decision based on that. Clark is currently in jail - it may not be as easy as a quick phone call to speak to him.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Great work||
The first post (main page or board) that I've been 100% pleased with. Very well said, and it's the truth.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Carr like||
Are we still saying that like its a bad thing? How many programs win 10 games a year and conference championships fairly consistently? Very very few. How many do better than that? Just Alabama.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||You're right||
But we fired the AD we hate, and we're 2-0 since then (and playing marginally better...I know, I know, it's relative). Plus our basketball team is established, and we have the talent and foundation for a quick turnaround with a good coaching hire.
I agree that we're our own worst enemy, but I think we're already working on the remedy for that. Therefore I think this OP has a fair question. I'll take OSU tonight. My Spartan brother sent me a video of a newspaper calling MSU one game away from being a national power, and flipped to the next page where Michigan and Northwestern were "desparate programs fighting for a bowl." I'd love to point out that pride comes before that fall tomorrow. Also, taking shit about Michigan on the eve of your biggest game in the program's recent history? Classic Sparty.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Hey man||
I never said I wanted to keep Hoke. I just think how the team has played consistently over the past 18 games is a better reason to fire him than whatever he did today. At some point I just get sick of piling on and blaming every last thing on Hoke. I think our coaching was fine today. Gardner's turnovers are comedy, and completely random as part of a gameplan.
To the above poster who commented on 5* QBs who haven't developed under Hoke...well, there's Devin. Not exactly statistically significant, considering Hoke didn't recruit him. Shane (who's a true sophomore) might be too early to rule out, but he's not looking great either. Bellomy was a last minute recruit and I Recruiting rankings don't guarantee success, and we all know how much the "it factor" is part of the position. I think his biggest mistake was not recruiting anybody above Shane, because it would be nice to have a junior availble as an option to challenge our physically battered RS Senior QB who seems to lack any QB instincts, and our True Sophomore rocket arm who missed his senior year of HS football and has played under two coordinators at UofM already. Finding the right QB is as much luck as it is recruiting. Hopefully Speight or Malzone has "it"
So fire Hoke because of his awful record on the road, or inability to compete with his rivals, or his loyalty to Fred Jackson and Darrell Funk, or his old fashioned approach to running a program. The coaches haven't gotten the job done. But they're not responsible for everything, and the offensive execution falls on the guys who are supposed to well, execute...
|11 weeks 3 days ago||I don't know||
Morris doesn't seem like a fantastic option based on 1) what we've seen in his limited opportunities, and 2) the fact that he's not even on the coaches minds.
I think the purpose of my comment was that, as much as I agree we need a fresh start in the coaching staff, I can't sit here after this game and point at the coaches and say "that's why we're not good!" They've had some clock management hiccups in different games. The special teams personnel is a coaching error. But by and large I think our team is what it is because we have no viable option at the most important position on the field. He is literally a turnover machine.
I don't want to give our team too much credit, but with the Big Ten what it is, our defense a legitimate B+ (lacks a shutdown corner...Hi Jabrill!), and our O-Line improving...I think we could have been a 9-10 win team if we had a "game manager" at QB.
Speight and Malzone have that potential at the very least. I'm not ready to give up on Shane, but he's looking like a rocket arm without QB instincts.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Speight||
We've seen RS Freshmen win the damn heisman. Speight can be a saving grace, and even Malzone has the "moxie" that might make him a viable option as an early enrollee freshman. After all, they'll all start on even footing with (another) (likely) new coordinator. But I do agree -- if Morris doesn't have "it," that's a shame. I do remember Dilfer being unimpressed with his overall makeup at Elite 11 camps. He's a rifle arm, but being a QB is much more than physical talent.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Hoke||
The guy isn't exactly crushing it as our coach, I get it. But we won today, and I don't see any glaring coaching errors as the reason we can't score. It all comes back to QB play. I can't think of a winning team without a good QB, and we happen to have one of the most mistake prone quarterbacks piloting our offense.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Gardner||
Devin Gardner handcuffs the offense. We had great push with the offensive line at times, and ran the ball fairly well. Devin didn't face any more pressure than a QB should expect. But he continues to turn the ball over, stare down receivers, and throw late to our open guys.
Great kid...but he is a huge reason we can't score.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Coaching||
I don't know that Gardner's deficiencies are "coachable." He really handcuffs our offense. We ran the ball fine, but he is turnover prone and seconds late on his throws. Or Funchess drops them when they are on time. So, based on that....I think the coaching was fine today. We won.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Huh?||
That makes him underperforming? We're 4-5 with maybe one quality win. I can argue you're statement is true about 90% of SEC teams compared to ours this season. The poster above has a legitimate point about him being Lloyd-like, but he's a been a consistent winner in the hardest league in college football.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Messiah||
I saw him at the App State game this year, so I'm curious why he would omit that from his answer on how many games he's been to...just saying.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Dramatic response.||
You're not wrong. But are the academics going to plummet if we pay our coach $8million? No way. All I'm saying is given a decision between Harvard and Michigan, I'd pick Michigan every time and campus life is the reason (Harvard is better academically).
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Your last bullet||
Your last bullet makes me sick. Football is the front door to the university. How many out-of-staters apply to and attend Michigan partially because of the promise of big time football and tailgates is not an insignificant amount. How many kids grow up idolizing Michigan because of football isn't either. I'm one of them. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Big time college football is part of American fabric and Michigan needs to be up there. Maybe "UofM" should ask their big donors and gauge the alumni how they feel about football. This blog would be a good place to start...biggest sports blog on the Internet or something, right.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Hatch||
I'm sure this will be poorly received by the "don't crush his dreams" crowd - and I will preface it again by saying we are ALL rooting for Austin to play meaningful basketball at. We are proud of how he's emerged from tragedy, and fortunate to have the opportunity share his story and cheer for him at UofM. I hope he accomplishes every goal he has for himself.
That said, I just want to comment on the facts, because this is the first film I've seen of Austin since he's injury (not counting the 3-pointer in HS which didn't tell us much). He's noticabably slower each of his teammates, and seems to still be working on his coordination. It's already impressive that he's been able to regain this level of athleticism after his injuries. And while I'm still rooting for him (see paragraph #1), this does help reinforce my hunch that he's headed towards a medical redshirt.
If he wants to play all four years and Beliein wants him to dress for every game, I'm 100% on board. This is my opinion, based on what my eyes were able to preceive. Only time will tell.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Get over it||
We need to get over it. In general, people get upset when other people have opinions that are opposite of their own. Are you surprised that the athletes liked Brandon? They had a totally different perspective of him. It's OK that they defend him, and OK that they blame "fans/muggles" for his resignation (because we are responsible). As for using the term, who cares.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Agree||
IN fact, I argue that it was the correct strategy. We're up 17-3 and will the ball after the half. IU can't drive on us. Our QB is a turnover machine. Putting him in an unnecessary fast break offense could give IU a TO, points, and momentum heading into the half. It was absolutely the right move. And we ultimately won by 24, so any arguments against that decision are moot during this game.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Come on||
He was getting healthy buzz before his injury, and has been this season. I'll bet he just wasn't the most productive back in practice. We don't have to blame them for everything. Great win today, Go Blue!
|12 weeks 3 days ago||This||
This is what we can do when we don't have field possession switching, offensive momentum crushing turnovers. Our defense keeps us in, and our offense can slowly gain confidence. Very happy for our guys today
|12 weeks 3 days ago||He's in charge||
He's in charge, but it's the players making the mistakes. Look at Nuss and tell me he's not extremely frustrated with the execution out there. He's had 6 months to erase whatever bad habits existed and teach his way. It's not easy. You can't place all the blame on him.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Frats||
Sort of like frats and GDIs. This is something we should get over, now.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||To be fair||
The blog does cite the news like 1000x more than the reverse. How many Sam Webb or Chengelis articles have we linked or block quoted?
|13 weeks 1 hour ago||Disagree||
Everyone, ESPECIALLY Fred Jackson must go.
But, to be serious, I wouldn't mind keeping Nussmeier. Yeah, we've been awful. But I can't blame him as a first year coordinator and some of the comedic turnovers or dropped passes we've had. He's had success elsewhere, and I like his demeanor. Basically I just believe he's a good coach despite this season.
I would keep GMat if he wanted to (and "Coach Harbaugh wanted him). But I see this as less likely than Doug staying. I feel like he and Jim would mesh well, and could see it as a good opportunity to jump to a HC job after 1-2 years. Plus, we wouldn't have to pay his buyout after 1 season.
|13 weeks 10 hours ago||Wow||
Did you just guarantee Brandon gets fired, and give UofM enough reason to avoid paying his lofty buyout?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||No but||
No, but it's a step in the right direction. We can what if everything and talk about how unrealistic it would be to win out, but IF we DO finish 8-5 or 9-4 with a win today, it would be hard to fire him because that's a huge turnaround and positive momentum. We also basically threw the Minnesota game away (on the coaches, sure) and got jobbed at Rutgers.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Barwis||
If I remember correctly, we had several key injuries under Barwis as well. And I can speak from personal experience, having two close friends who played, that Barwis' workouts were effective for freak athletes (i.e Brandon Graham and Mike Martin) but for the walk-ons and 90% of the other 3/4 star types they felt frankly burnt out and exhausted from the weight room.
It's my opinion that an S&C program should have you feeling your absolute best for game days. Barwis may have taken things a bit too far.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Yes||
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Curious||
I'm curious who your obvious possibilities are. I don't want to break the rule of speculating about injuries, but I will try to rule people out (delete if I cross a line...I certainly wish the best for all of our guys.)
K. Hill - ACLs aren't career ending. Morgan - I suppose, if it's bad enough. But it seems to be upper limb, and he's eligible for a medical redshirt to return. Pipkins - Has been absent lately, this would be a shame. D. Hill - Feels like just yesterday he was our pre-season starter with some buzz. I hope not. Drake Harris - Feels a bit early to call it a career...I REALLY hope not.
Those are the major injuries affecting guys I know about. These three players could include depth guys or walk-ons. Again, I don't wish a career ending injury on anybody...but that seems most likely based on what I do know about contributors who we know are injured.
Get your education fellas, there's life after football for 100% of you. You just know it a bit earlier.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||It's not Peppers||
It's not Peppers. I will Raback that.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Brian||
I don't always agree with Brian's opinions (especially lately), but I continue to value his opinions and visit this blog because I know they are always based on something real. Thank you for going through lengths to validate whatever information you've acquired instead of rumor mongering.
If it's good -- I hope we learn soon.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Peppers||
I've heard that he is unlikely to play, 2-3 weeks out still.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||I guess||
Yeah, it is. Bu it's for Breast Cancer research, so any insults hurled at them are essentially hurled at breast cancer research...and you don't want to be that guy. So as far as wearing pink in an away game in a hostile environment that's a presumed massacre, this should earn a pass.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, got it.||
Just looking for an excuse to post a tongue-in-cheek optimstic post for this weekend.
Gardner lives up the lofty #98 standard and gets a standing ovation for his 5 TD performance.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||I think||
I think we've done as much as we can do. The wheels are turning as fast as they'll turn.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Don't apologize||
Don't apologize for being optimistic. What happened, happened. While everyone else was already miserable during August, you were pretty happy. Now we all accept the reality.
The reality that we're going to pull off an upset on Saturday and things will go back to pre-2006 normal!
|14 weeks 2 days ago||CC||
I've seen others post something along these lines, but myy list of desirable head coaches goes:
I don't want to make a change just to make a change. I think Hoke - a guy who loves Michigan and has recruited extremely well. Yes, we should be much better we still do have an objectively young team - in year 5 would be better than another guy with a Hoke-level resume. I think we took a short term step back by firing Borges (hopefully Nuss gets us going very soon) and without making a slam dunk hire, what's the point? We're just that disgruntled where we'd take BC's mediocre head coach instead of our own mediocre head coach? The CC posts have been underwhelming in my opinion.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||I do agree||
I do agree, especially last year. But as much as I appreciate Devin, he's had some crippling turnovers at times over his career.
I hope he can carry us to 6 wins in the next 6 though.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||My thoughts||
Florida and Texas seem to have the same issues as Michigan right now, which makes me feel a little better (not much). Ultimately, most of it comes back to QB play. Here's to hoping Gardner's aneurysm of leadership is the end of stupid, field position crushing turnovers and gives our defense room to keep us in games. I know Gardner can make enough players to win us games, as long as he doesn't make as many to lose us games.
Does Northwestern EVER have a home field advantage?
I have FSU pulling away for a 2 TD victory.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||But, but, but||
But we fired Borges!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting a win. But I really believe that MSU is only a good, not great. They'll be fired up to play us, I get that. I do have confidence in our defense to slow their offense down. It's going to depend on whether they can sustain it for four quarters, and that's going to have alot to do with a) giving the offense opportunities for easy points or b) the offense either playing efficient, mistake free football (not counting on it) or c) the offense hitting on a big play or two to give the defense just enough "run support" to keep them motivated.
If we have a shot at winning, it'll look alot like Penn State -- 20-16 or something. It's not impossible. We've never seen Nuss after a bye week, and there's a reason we were excited about him right?
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Neither||
I wasn't able to watch the Rutgers game and ignorance is bliss. Otherwise, from my perspective the defense has looked fine against each of our opponents until around the mid-second quarter where they've been on the field for 8 possessions and 65% of the game set up with poor field position. And in the Penn State game (admittedly a different level of O-Line), they were engaged throughout and played with their hair on fire. I have a little more confidence in them playing with swagger against a rival with the season still on the brink, anuerusyms of leadership, etc...
I don't know man. I'm trying to convince myself there's a shot at winning, because it's way more depressing to watch a football game like it's a punishment.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||No Question||
In term of style of play, especially.
My confidence in an upset is going up against MSU and staying the same for OSU (it was already low; and I think "throw the records out" factor will have some say).
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Michigan State||
MSU just isn't as good as last year. Despite our record (and performance), I think we ARE better than last year overall (i.e. without a massive achilles heel on the O-Line). From what I'm seeing, I think we have a shot at pulling off the upset if our defense can play to potential. I have faith the the run defense and I think their O-Line can be vulnerable to a pass rush. Can't allow any big plays in the passing game, and create a few a turnover or two.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Really?||
About that last comment - wait, really?
I definitely get why. I've posted my thoughts in more detail elsewhere in the thread. I guess I just expecte more than name calling and obscenities after this move. Regardless of the motive, it's good news.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Fair analogy||
That's a fair analogy, and I do understand that it's a last ditch effort that deserves maybe a bit of facepalm. But it's still the right move. That's why my reaction is "too little, too late," and not "WTF Dave!!!"
I do like your analogy, but on the other hand maybe he's finally reached a point where he realizes he needs to reign it in and can't get away with his antics anmore. His job is literally in jeopardy. So I'll offer another comparison, a person with a drug habit or self-induced health problems that has a "come to Jesus" moment after a very close call. There's plenty of examples of "this person" turning it around.
There are other analogies available to prove whatever point somebody is trying to prove. He's to hoping we never have to find out how the story will actually end. As far as the AD is concerned, I'm more interested in a fresh start than a story of redemption. On the other hand, I am willing to give Hoke another year *IF* he earns it in the next 6 games (contingent upon a fresh start at AD...one has to go).
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Yes||
I am really dumbfounded by this entire thread. This is absolutely the right move from a guy in Dave's position. We all think he's a douchebag, fine. But we're piling on to this move, a direct response to one source of fan discontent - swiftly timed to try and prove he's willing to change. This is pathetic. I think I'd prefer that Dave that pull a Marcus Hall and raise the prices so we could actually have something to complain about.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Good||
I don't really understand the comments above me. He's trying to right an obvious wrong. Maybe it's too little too late, but you guys would honestly prefer that he doesn't try to fix it? That he just continues to thumb his nose and screw the students?
Like I said, maybe it's not enough to change your perception or make you want to keep him. But I can't fathom how this is anything BUT a good thing coming from Dave Brandon, a guy who is currently our AD and may still be next year. If our regents don't pull the plug, at least he's willing to bend for the students...maybe mending relationships with season ticket holders and righting other wrongs would come next.
|15 weeks 7 hours ago||Thanks||
THANK YOU. Absolutely true, and part of my frustration with this board's tendency to harp on stupid things just to pile on to Hoke and Brandon. Their actual resumes are enough - are we really using weight, press conference vocabulary (or reluctance to answer questions), and college athletic achievements as reasons they aren't cutting it?
Mediocre coaching and corporate overhaul of our athletic culture are good reasons to want change. And that should be enough.
|15 weeks 8 hours ago||Great||
Great, another opportunity to scrutinize everything Hoke says or does.
|15 weeks 9 hours ago||Ok||
Pipkins has been injured, Countess was all-big ten last year and has had a great career to this point, RJS is behind some good linebackers, and Ross has played well thus far in their careers. I think depth/competition is a factor and their poor play this year is a bit exaggerated.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||I don't care||
I don't care how good Northwestern looks or how bad Michigan looks. I will never predict us to lose to Northwestern. That said, they don't look that good (despite a few decent wins) and we are improving (plus our losses may not have been as bad as we think - Utah, Minny looking solid). Me personally, I will buy us at 6 wins. Whether we beat MSU or OSU is a different story, but if we can pull out one of those plus a bowl game I think Brady Hoke may have saved his job for another year.
Whatever your opinion is on him being back for another year - I will never ever cheer for Michigan to lose just for a coaching change. Therefore, I guess I'm still cheering for Hoke to save his job until he actually loses it.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Nope||
I don't think you're in the minority based on my conversations. Brian is entitled to his opinion, but that doesn't make it the majority. I loved them too.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Screw you||
You and all the other "guys in the elevator".
|15 weeks 2 days ago||I disagree||
I think that is the wisest strategic decision we could make at this point. I don't understand why they don't admit the reason they don't talk about injuries (competitive advantage), but I definitely understand why they don't. I don't think it makes a huge difference usually, but why not? And in this case, Gardner vs. Morris/Bellomy is a huge huge dropoff. I'd rather MSU wonder who's playing than have a clear picture of what Devin is dealing with.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Spin||
Gardner considered leaving on his own accord and decided to stick it out. This was years ago. Hoke didn't "ask him to leave." We all knew this already, this slapdick just decided to get the story wrong for entertainment value.
Also, his commentary about Gardner playing injuried was weak. Guys play injured! He wanted to play injured! I think we took him out initially as a direct reaction to the Morris fiasco, because Gardner clearly looked frustrated on the bench (mostly about the fact he GOT injured, I presume).
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe||
Or sometimes a guy just doesn't have it. I could be in the system for 5 years, and if you put me in it wouldn't be any prettier. Bellomy knew the plays and knew the steps. He just threw in defenders. The game moves too fast for him. You can't necessarily coach that
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Ok||
Ok so spend a lot more money on coaches and facilities, but cut revenue and don't accept advertising or donation money. Got it.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||This is becoming too much||
Guy had a brain fart. Who here hasn't had a brain fart? I know he's kind of riding a wave of mistakes, but is this really worth piling on?
|16 weeks 1 hour ago||Come on||
I don't think he forced Norfleet to say it. Sure, they want us to show up on time. Do we really care whether they used it in a promotion to get us to show up and support our team?
At this point I think it's very clear that we want Brandon out. Considering the tickets have already been purchased, this particular boycott does nothing but hurt the guys on the squad (Norfleet), make recruits question our fanbase on our biggest stage to impress them, and give ESPN more rabble about Michigan win or lose.
This demonstration will not affect Brandon's job status. Schissel and the reagents will. Go Blue, please show up.
|16 weeks 7 hours ago||Supposed to be funny||
It was supposed to be kind of a joke, but fell totally flat. Not a complainer here. But I do sometimes lack awareness of what's actually funny. Carry on.
|16 weeks 8 hours ago||Who?||
Marlin and Cato are distinguishable names. Todd must be Todd Howard? Ray...as in Marcus Ray? Why'd you switch to last name, that's confusing. And who is B-Will? Brandon Williams? Should I know him as B-Will?
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Patiently waiting||
I'm patiently waiting for UofM to announce that Jordan has signed a contact to be our head coach in waiting.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||He's right||
And people taking shots at Kirk for his opinions are irrational.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||No||
He's said it the entire time. Hoke obviously didn't play the event right, but after the fact he's most guilty of not passing any of the blame. I think originally he thought he could plead ignorance, accept blame, it it would blow over. Now that it's taken on another life I think most of what he says it truth.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||I agree||
I agree with most of your points. I also agree with the people saying "is another post necessary." I agree that we are overreacting. And I just can't wait to talk football again. Real football, - not injuries and not coaching.
Here's to hoping an away game will actually be less distracting than a home game and allow our guys to find their groove. Go Blue!
|17 weeks 15 min ago||Flip Flop||
I've never understood why flip-flopping is such a hot topic. Sure, it's bad in some scenarios. But isn't it wiser to adjust your opinions based on the facts that are available? I'll flip flop all day if I'm switching from a bad choice to a better one.
|17 weeks 19 min ago||Chill out||
You gonna call him a "Fake Wolverine" like OSU did with Herbstreit? Everything isn't always black and white. I think there are a ton of truths being told to different degrees. Ultimately a level of miscommunication within our athletic department. I'm on board for Dave Brandon to be fired. But the Hoke outrage is a lot about losing and mob mentality is definitely part of it.
Brandon looks awful over the course of the past 6 years, Hoke looks like a bad coach with a little too much on his plate, and we, the fans, look impatient, fickle, and arrogant. Third coach we've tried to push out in 8 years. Can we all just chill out a little bit?
|17 weeks 8 hours ago||Too much||
We, as fans, are doing a little bit too much with this stuff. I've said it before, I think Brandon (especially), and Hoke misplayed this concussion thing badly. But the amount of outrage that Hoke is receiving is completely disproportionate to the crime. Michigan fans are beginning to cross the line from concerned and noble to obsessive and fickle. OK, maybe not "beginning to."
|17 weeks 8 hours ago||Peppers||
I have a close friend that works for the team. Peppers was on crutches all week and was never going to play. The rumor of him in the locker room with his back to the coaches and upset is complete BS.
|17 weeks 12 hours ago||Given a choice||
Given a choice of only, I would rather fire Dave Brandon than Brady Hoke. The bumbling PR is on Dave Brandon. The ticket prices and corporate feel is on Brandon. We use that angst to pile on to Brady Hoke's downward trajectory. Hoke hasn't been great and deserves the hot seat, but Brandon would satisfy me. I still don't see an attractive mid-season option to firing Hoke. He fumbled this Morris situation, but I think is a bit of an overreaction on Hoke's role/motive. Brandon on the other hand, needs to go.
Still praying for that mid-season turnaround. I cheer for Michigan, I don't get my jollies on engaging in sepculation of contraversy. And if Hoke pulls off a miracle 9-3, he should stay. If we continue playing like a pee-wee team...then he shoud be fired.
But Fire Brandon!
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||That part||
I get that he went back into the game. But we all saw Bellomy trying to find a helmet that fit for like 25 seconds. Putting him into the game to hand the ball off was the least upsetting part of the whole thing for me. But I guess out of context he "went back in the game" and could have gotten decapitated again on a late hit?
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||YES||
This thing was misplayed. But the outrage about it is overboard. It's a volcano of Michigan angst in the perfect storm of Brandon's corporate spirit and Hoke's inability to put a winning team on the field. I'm not defending anyone's actions in this particular instance, but attacking Hoke's character and some people going as far to suggest he had a death wish (seriously?!?) for his player is way too far.
We, as Michigan fans and community, never accepted RichRod then pushed him out after 3 seasons of F -> D -> C football. Now we're doing the same to Hoke after B+ -> B- -> C -> C football. WE basically fired Borges, and I believe we would be better RIGHT NOW with him. We hate Brandon, so we hate everything and anything the athletic department says or does.
Fire Brandon, OK. Fire Hoke, OK. But can we fire ourselves while we're at it? I'm the biggest Michigan fan around and our pretentiousness and arrogance is becoming way too much for me to handle.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Status Quo||
It's status quo for a player or coach to say "we can't pay attention to what's being said outside of our locker room" and stuff like that. But why? If it's me, I might start collecting the haters and use it to fuel my fire. If Desmond Howard says this about me I'm gonna play with a chip on my shoulder all season long. That's quite the indictment. Wake up squad! Don't ignore the haters, prove them wrong instead.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||Brandon||
I wouldn't mind if Brandon was fired. But I have a feeling that he's aware of the backlash and that season ticket holders and students will get a pretty sweet deal next year, and possibly beyond.
|18 weeks 1 hour ago||Keep Brady Hoke!||
Not actually, the way we're playing. But he will finish the season here. And I am cheering for a miraculous turnaround and a 9-3 finish so we CAN keep him and feel good about it. He's a great man. Maybe not a great coach, but he has 8 games left to prove otherwise.
Go Blue, Beat Minnesota.
|18 weeks 1 day ago||Brady is his meal ticket?||
The guy left the Ravens. He is his own meal ticket. Brady is just his current boss.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Minnesota||
Death of an optimist indeed. I've been designing scenarios where we can redeem ourselves and Hoke will look like the guy for the job. Brandon hasn't been that bad, I say, it's the losing that rubs everyone. After this one...I'm on life support. I won't go as far to say the season is lost, because you still have to play the games. It sure as hell doesn't look likely, but sports are crazy. He's going to ride the hot seat all season. I just don't think you can fire him in the middle of the season. The only reasonable option is to keep him around and make phone calls to John, Jim, and Les with the hope to pounce on one after their respective seasons. It's a longshot, but Hok will still get the opportunity to win the rest of the games on our schedule.
Beating Minnesota would be a nice start.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Yes||
2008. This is rock bottom, but hey...anything can happen
|18 weeks 3 days ago||Can't edit||
I'm mobile. Can't edit. But what I'm saying is coaching hasn't been an issue at all. Need more accurate throws, a little better pass pro. I guess you could say coaching for the lack of spread punt.
|18 weeks 3 days ago||Pessimism||
For as much pessimism as I'm reading. Who here thought we were gonna blow them out?
|18 weeks 3 days ago||Onion so||
Onions. This type of stuff is amazing. I love it when athletes embrace their status and use it to do good. Can't stand celebrities who "never asked to be a role model." Fantastic stuff, JJ.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||I get your point||
I see your point. And sucks for the OP. But I dislike everything about the tone of your post. I don't think being lazy is this team's problem, and as shitty as this schedule looked before the season....Utah is a pretty compelling game, PSU will be very fun, and Maryland should be interesting. Short on big names and awesome opponents, but hey, Michigan is gonna be IN all these games and has a chance to win them all.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Isaac||
I have a friend who works closely with the team. Says that Issac's talent is obvious, but he spent 3 months out of a college weight program so he's behind our current guys in terms of conditioning and looks a bit "doughy."
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Delay of game||
Watching on TV I remember thinking it was way too short. The coaches obviously thought they didn't reset the clock. Any input from people in the stadium? Was the clock operator partially at fault?
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Right||
You're right. And that game is almost more forgivable, although no prepared backup QB isn't good either.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Hoke||
Won a Sugar Bowl, then went 8-5 the following year with losses against Bama (Nat Champ), ND (Nat runner-up), and OSU (undefeated). Other losses @Iowa with a questionable no flag at the buzzer and heartbreaker bowl loss to South Carolina. Last year was really bad, but his entire tenure hasn't been as bad as our memories tell us.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Doing you part huh?||
Paying for tickets, but then not showing up so that our home field advantage is less impressive. And recruits question our fan support.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||I disagree||
Braden has massive potential. He's an all-big ten body. Maybe he's underwhelming right now, but if we can get him up to speed it will bode well for this season and the future.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||The line||
You're dancing on the wrong side of the "No Politics" line.
|20 weeks 11 hours ago||Yeah||
Yeah that is what it's come to. I can't expect us to win every game anymore because it hasn't happened. In fact, we've looked awful at times. I'm looking for real progress, not a miracle season.
|20 weeks 11 hours ago||Tongue in cheek||
Meant as a joke. I agree man.
|20 weeks 12 hours ago||Some people||
Some people just like to watch the world burn.
|20 weeks 12 hours ago||I agree||
The way we lost was straight out of 2013. I hated it. And I'm definitely not counting on smooth sailing for the next 4-5 games. I'm just saying, as an optimist, that's what it would take for me to accept the possibility that MAYBE Saturday was just a series of bad breaks that snowballed into a disaster.
|20 weeks 12 hours ago||Haha||
Too many numbers? Good, I've distracted you from the pain of defeat.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Compliments||
I get the feeling that adding a guy like Duncan Robinson is part of the larger plan for our team. We have role players with an elite skill, now he can tell these guys that we need a few cornerstone guys. Players who can command the ball and be the primary guys. They'll have Duncan on the wing to snipe and spread the floor, and Doyle and Teske to grab boards and command the paint on defense.
I think trying to build the best team possible, not just the best collection of players. The pieces have to fit. Now it's time to strike on 2-3 alpha dogs to compliment our recent commits.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||I get it||
I totally get it. Last week was awful and much of the same stuff as 2013. But I literally cannot wait until Saturday for another game to prove our mettle. Huge concerns with coaching right now, so I'm not upset with your post. Just the volume of them make me want to gouge my eyes out. And I want to believe we will rise up to the challenge and improve. Go Blue.
|20 weeks 2 days ago||Confidence||
Our schedule shapes up with great opportunities to get some confidence back. Obviously an awful game yesterday and we aren't anywhere near looking like a team fans, players, or coaches can be proud of. But the schedule sets up nicely with a cupcakey-game to work out kinks and get our confidence back, a home game against a team that can beat us, a home game against a decent Big Ten team, and a road game against a middling Big Ten team before our next primetime game AT HOME against a solid team with little depth.
Each week is a step up in difficulty. I would be there next week if I could, because I'm not ready to lose hope (or Hoke) yet. I really want to give these guys a chance to prove their mettle, and showing up to support them if I had a ticket would be a good way to do it. We wait all winter and summer for football season. Way too early to write us off, especially when we have a chance to build some momentum with the soft part of our schedule.
*disclaimer: yesterday was very bad. I'm not trying to blow rainbows. I just don't see the sense in "Fire XYZ" posts after 2 games. We still get to play @Rutgers, PSU, @MSU, @OSU, and a Bowl Game to change the tune of big game/road woes*
|20 weeks 2 days ago||No Choice||
I know our players are working hard. I want to believe our coaches can get the job done, because I can't stomach another coaching change and all the turnover it comes with. I really like Hoke and co. But this performance was abysmal, and straight out of 2013. It's really difficult for me to say anything positive about our coaches after that game.
However, I don't really see a choice for the short term. We can talk about coaches in November. But right now, the only option is to watch our game at Miami next week. As bad as it was, you can't abandon a season because of one awful game. The schedule sets up for a winning streak and incremental improvement might have us ready for MSU. Give ourselves a chance to improve and atone. It's the only option right now. Let's try to enjoy the season. Go Blue.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Funny||
It's funny that we both said basically the same thing, except with a much different spin. Glass half full vs. Half empty.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||AD||
I agree. For all the grief that the board gives the AD, they're just obeying the concept of supply and demand. Tickets aren't selling? Lower prices and propose deals. When demand is high, of course ticket prices rise. They didn't write the book on it.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||True||
True, but that's relative. A reasonable flight doesn't compare if you can drive <5 hours and fit four people in your car.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Press Conferences||
I think most of us get it why he's bland in press conferences. Press conferences are a requirement for him. Something he has to do because it's part of the job to work with the media and promote the program. But it's not what drives him to coach or what makes him love his job. Maybe he could be a little more lively in his conferences, but I guarantee that we'll stop nitpicking him if we string together 10 win seasons with a few conference championships and playoff appearances.
I really like the man and am rooting for him to succeed here. Thanks for sharing this snippet.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Press Conferences||
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Honeymoon||
At least we won the Sugar Bowl before our honeymoon with Hoke ended.
|21 weeks 6 days ago||Who Cares||
Despite your slippery slope argument, there are no advertisements in the Big House. If somebody wants to sponsor our tweets - go for it. That's free money for a stupid thing like twitter. I would barely notice.
|21 weeks 6 days ago||Home||
I like the idea of a bar, but I usually prefer the comfort of my home (or a friends) because most fans frustrate me with their lack of knowledge or pessimism. I can't stand hearing how stupid X-player is or how our head coach can suck...something because a play didn't work. Quarterbacks don't TRY to throw interceptions, and defenders don't TRY to screw up. That's my PSA.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||Ha||
Yup, hiding behind an internet disguise has that effect. I'm flattered that you responded to this in the midst of a few "go fuck yourself" comments though.
In a few more words, let me explain.
I think this is a bit petty because you're not watching because of Dave Brandon. He will never know. This game was scheduled because of revenge, not money (if it is money, someone needs to explain to me how paying App State to play us is a money grab. Do we get paid when they play "Horror" highlights?). You may disagree with the decision to schedule it, and that's fine. But many of us love the revenge factor. I want to win this game because I do believe The Horror was the beginning of the downslide. Symbolically, I want to crush App State and set the universe right.
I think it's emotional because "The Horror" was 7 years ago. We shouldn't be so affected by articles about it or watching highlights. It happened, it sucked. The six years following it weren't so great either. Time to move on and cheer for Michigan. I prefer to think of it as "The Horror: Revenge," but if you can't escape thoughts of "The Horror II" then just watch it as Michigan Football Game 1: Road to the Playoff. Also, we look bad if we blow them out? Considering the circumstances I think the sports world will forgive us if we demoralize them. I think we keep it classy in the 55 point range, but I would gladly accept a 90-0 win and any backlash that comes with it.
I hope you reconsider your stance and enjoy a game in what MIGHT BE a special Michigan football season. We're still undefeated in 2014.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||OP||
You are petty and overly emotional.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||Great post||
Food for thought.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||I agree||
Let's win a few times before we keep climbing back on to our high horse. Michigan arrogance is fine with me, when we back it up. When we aren't, it's very frustrating.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Fantasy||
12 team - 0.5 ppr
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Reggie Bush
RB - LeVeon Bell
WR - Larry Fitzgerald
WR - Torrey Smith
TE- Charles Clay or Delanie Walker
Flex - Julian Edelman
K - Justin Tucker
D/ST - Patriots
Bench - Darren Sproles, Khiry Robinson, Hakeem Nicks, Tavon Austin, Chris Ivory, the other TE who isn't starting....and Denard Robinson.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||Kind of||
It sucks for that guy. But it is pretty funny how he uses "Big Ten" as a slur, and ironic that he calls Notre Dame arrogant considering his tone towards everyone else.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||I think||
I think the level of anger about the game by some of us/you rivals whatever go drove them to schedule it.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Why?||
Why? What effect did those two weeks have on our program? York was at home, suspended indefinitely.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Appropriate||
I hope he recovers from this mistake, but this move was absolutely necessary.
On the other hand, the program did the right thing but taking time to make this decision. I hope this satisfies everyone whining about why he wasn't kicked off immediately.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Delusional||
The 11W guy trumpets OSU's discipline. Lol. Glasgow probably would have been dismissed because he's not good enough to join the circle of trust, thus maintaining an average discipline that doesn't raise too many eyebrows. I hate OSU
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Really?||
Wolverine Devotee has never been to a game? You need to get yourself to the App State game.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||Ok||
Competition was weak but you were able to conclude that Irvin can be a high lottery pick from that sample haha. Love the optimism.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||My opinion||
I love the story and am rooting for him etc. Etc. But I still anticipate that Austin gets a medical redshirt. I think he'll see symbolic game time this season, and then be medically redshirted after the season.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||Cry Babies||
I want to crush App State. This is just another reason for you haters to criticize DB, and you all must have repress every bad thing that has ever happened to you. We lost to App State. It was horrible. Can't erase that, but we can stop them out to build momentum for our season. Schedule them every year until that game becomes just an unfortunate part of history. I'm excited. App state will have our squads full focus.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Dave Brandon||
I don't love everything Dave has done. I think the commercialism of a night game (UTLIII??? It made sense for the first one, but I can read a schedule...it's a night game) is extremely annoying for example. But I think he's done a pretty good job overall. I just can't wait until we can stop overanalyzing every decision the athletic department makes.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Disagree||
Because a Football player allegedly dodged consequences of a rape last year, the University should make hasty decisions in all future legal encounters involving athletes?
If anything, the Gibbons debacle should teach us that we need to take every case seriously and gather as much information as possible before making decisions one way or another.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Justice||
The video is damning for sure. But he's not actively practicing. I don't see anything wrong with keeping him indefinitely suspended and letting the justice system take its course. He'll probably be dismissed sooner than later.
You don't get a special prize for making huge decisions based on security footage. Just wait, they'll do the right thing.
|24 weeks 6 hours ago||Video||
Haven't watched the video and I like to form my own opinions. Not saying you or anyone else is wrong. I just think an individual should be innocent until proven guilty, and suspending him immediately after the incident was the appropriate decision.
|24 weeks 7 hours ago||Wait||
Haven't watched the video yet because I'm at work, but there is no need to rush to judgment. He's appropriately suspended. Wait until the trial to decide what happened, and if witnesses decide he was provoked without cause. Im not condoning violence, but if a tough guy decides to say racist stuff 2 inches from your face and basically ask for a fight...I can't really feel sorry for him if he gets hit.
|24 weeks 1 day ago||BLUE||
I very much prefer wearing blue to wearing maize. Maybe I'm alone, but I think it would be much easier to execute a blue out.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Maize Field||
Never ever a maize field.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Who cares||
1) players and recruits like them
|24 weeks 4 days ago||These look cool||
One game, this look very cool
|24 weeks 4 days ago||People were questioning?||
Nobody liked to see Montgomery leave, but Manning seemed like the best possible fit even before he was hired.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Flawed||
This map doesn't agree with common sense. I think Michigan, Illinois, California, and New York are home to the highest concentration of Michigan fans and alumni. I get that State fans, Big Ten fans, and general college football fans who are haters might gang up on us in those respective states. But Ohio is most hated in Ohio? Something is weird about this. Only thing I can conclude is that we're on a lot of people's radar.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Wins||
It's really hard to win games in August, so how about we enjoy the moments we do have and wait to boil about winning/losing when there are actual results. Last season is long over.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Defense||
With exception of the DBs I think it's less important who starts on defense. Tons of depth at LB, and some talent mixed with experience on the DL. I think we have the horses to be really, really good on this side.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Me too||
I'm on board with your optimism. But I think Bosch starts over Dawson. He has the experience and pedigree. Some growing pains last year, but it wasn't all his fault.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Love this||
I love sports talk radio. I don't even watch sportscenter anymore, I prefer "watching" Mike & Mike
- Mike & Mike
- Dan Patrick
- SVP (but Russillo is kind of a tool)
- Colin Cowherd
- Sean Belegian -- I don't think he's an anything slappy. He's really grown on me because he really does just tell it how it is. Gives M Hoops credit, gives MSU football credit. Hard on our football team, because....I don't like his producer/sidekick much though
- "Huge" - I like the fact that he sticks up for Michigan, but he seems super dense. A real blockhead. When he's NOT sticking up for Michigan, he's using juvenile logic to bash us (I say "us," sue me). His show is full of promotions and elementary analysis.
- Jim Rome - I would rather sit in silence. He is so bad. The "clones" thing gets on my nerves, but not as much as his radio DJ thing where he replays a stupid quote or audio clip like 30 times. He gets on his high horse way too much.
|25 weeks 5 days ago||Big Ten||
One of the talking points after the Big Ten Media Days was how MSU was being "disrespected" despite being reigning champs and Rose Bowl winners. I know it was mostly manufactured just to have something to talk about, but I found it it hilarious. Picked second in the division with 1/3 of the first place votes. #8 in the country. It's not disrespectful to be picked behind a team most believe can also compete for a National Title.
As for Michigan, I'm fine with #32. Though I do think we'll finish much better. Pre-season buzz is guilty of juding teams based too much off last season. I've said it before. I think our defense will be A-/A based on depth, experience, talent, and coaching. I think our offense will be B at worst. There's enough talent, and a new/simpler scheme. At minimum I think they'll be much less erratic.
Can't wait for the season.
|25 weeks 5 days ago||Come on||
I'm sorry this man was mocked and I'm sympathetic towards his condition. But the apologies should suffice. Just an opportunity to make some easy money and of course this dude wants to try to take advantage.
|26 weeks 1 day ago||That's not the point||
Regardless of your argument, which is up for debate, the FACT is that we are the winningest program in college football history.
I don't think that anyone will argue that we've been the best program in the last 10 years. And I don't know if anyone is all that impressed by being the all-time winningest program in the context of today. But as far as tradition and history and truth are concerned -- we are still the winningest program in college football history.
I don't quite get the Ripken analogy by the way. A political statement trumpeting the program's history is nowhere near the same as Ripken playing every day at ~37. It's not like we have Rick Leach out there at QB.
|26 weeks 1 day ago||No he doesn't||
You're right about the percentage thing. That's a shame. But as long as we have the most wins in the history of college football we will be the "winningest program in college football." Notre Dame can claim it too I guess, but more specifically they have the "highest winning percentage in college football."
Give him a break. It's still the truth.
|26 weeks 3 days ago||Heritage||
Stuart Schweigert was an All-Big Ten player at Purdue in the early 2000s and played in the pros for several years. He went to Heritage.
|26 weeks 3 days ago||Position Depth||
Expectations are mild for this team, and that's probably good considering the last few years. Linebacker is defintely the deepest. But we really have solid depth and talent at every position this season. Lots of guys in their third or fourth year in the program too.
I'm looking forward to the main page article where they compare last year to this years team in terms of what positions project to be better, the same, or worse. Honestly, LT and RT (maybe #2 WR too) are the only positions I can see being worse. And I'll be cautiously optimistic that lots of competition, and a few guys who are in their third year in the program* can emerge to be above-average players by the meat of the schedule.
*I think it's been proven in a diary or something, but I think there's something about the third year in the program. Physically and mentally, it's when I expect that the light bulb might turn on for a lot of guys - with or without game experience.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this season.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||MGoBlog||
Chances that an 18-year old rabid Michigan fan is a member of this online community? >90%
You deserved that day, and hopefully we'll all enjoy a championship season sooner than later. We all know that was your REAL wish. Best wishes to you in the future, Stephen. Go Blue.
|27 weeks 10 hours ago||Hype||
"Can I borrow your pen?"
Now I'm excited!
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Guy||
I like where your heart is at, but this couldn't be more incorrect.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Cake||
"Have your cake and eat it too." It's cake...what are you supposed to do. If I ever meet somebody who wants to keep their cake and NOT eat it, I'm going to distance myself immediately.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Nope||
Nope, now there's a new problem. THJ averaged like 24 points a game. That's only second team? I guess he didn't rebound, pass, or defend but come on!
|27 weeks 1 day ago||GR Jr.||
Cue the OT vs. Not OT rabble.
Good fot him. Those are good stats.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||OK||
Not that I care at all about getting negged, but I am seriously looking for an explanation of where the negative perception of Coach K comes from. I won't argue it. Just wondering if I'm missing something.
Can somebody please explain. Something more than "seems like a douche," please.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||Wow||
This all looks and sounds fantastic. I live in Grand Rapids, and sometimes it takes massive personal investment to turn a city around (Ilitch-Gilbert = DeVos-VanAndel?). I think this will make a huge difference with the city: perception and hip-factor will definitely improve. But I do agree that public schools are the limiting reagent if Detroit wants to sustain growth and attract families. Having said that, this seems a great step in the right direction and hopefully the infrastructure (schools and what not) will follow as the city continues to "fix" itself.
|27 weeks 2 days ago||We are in 1st place||
We are in first place. There has been no reason to panic yet. Even if the bullpen obviously needs help, we are exactly where we want to be. Therefore he was afforded the luxury of patience to see if Nathan could self correct. It's time to make a move, but the fact he hasn't yet is smart.
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Coach K||
I had a discussion/argument with a few posters months ago about Coach K and I just don't get where this opinion comes from. I don't want to start another internet argument, but what is your opinion based off of? Serious question. Am I missing something?
I genuinely believe his is class act. Sure, he comes across as prickly or arrogant in some press conferences. But these coaches are hyper-competitive. It's much more difficult to keep your cool 100% of the time than it is to act like a douche now and then. And in their defense, the media probably asks them redundant/stupid question (this particular paragraph directed toward the poster above).
|27 weeks 3 days ago||Alumni||
I can't answer your question with hard evidence (and am too lazy to look it up), but I'm pretty sure it is a fact. Tons of undergrads + medical school, dental school, other grad schools. And I know it's a goal of UofM to enroll grad students from other institutions (thus producing a "new" alumnus and not just a milion multiple degree Wolverines). Like I said, I didn't look up the stats but I do think the sheer volume of UofM undergrads and our ability to attract grad studenst from elsewhere makes it very realistic.
Mostly I just wanted to remind everyone of the Kris Frost quote (former LB recruit) - "They have the largest living alumni base in the world. Well except for the University of Phoenix, but that doesn't really count."
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Mission Statement||
I'm cool with it not being a part of our mission statement, but it sure as hell better be a priority. Part of what keeps the largest living alumni base in the world engaged is our athletics. I want them to be competitive, and I want them to compete on the largest scale (Power 5 if it comes to that).
|27 weeks 4 days ago||Burke||
Burke also has a newborn boy. But unlike most 21 year olds, he seems mature enough to handle it.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Gravity||
Gravity didn't seem to apply to her. One part of me says that weight 100 lbs is an advantage, but the lack of wingspan is obviously a serious disadvantage. Not all athletes are created equal. It was very impressive, and I was shocked at how easy she made it seem.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||Canada||
He's not representing Canada. They didn't give him a Canadian flag jersey and instruct him to tell wholesome jokes about hockey. He's representing himself, and he is a rapper. PS I think he was overall pretty funny. Hosting these things is a a very tough gig. Name the last host of anything who crushed it.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Lol||
I love that movie. And fear that it's going to come true.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
This actually doesn't seem as sketchy as half the stuff that happens in college sports.
|27 weeks 6 days ago||Great||
He'll have plenty of experience when he returns to UofM to be the "LaVall Jordan" of HC LaVall Jordan's staff, along with associate head coach Bacari Alexander.
|28 weeks 5 hours ago||I love sports radio||
I love sports radio. SVP, Dan Patrick, Mike&Mike, Cowerd other ESPN random guys I've heard are generally great. But I cannot stand Jim Rome. I don't know if it's him calling his audience "clones," or his totally Radio DJish approach of playing the same audio clip like 30x in two minutes without any other conent, but I would rather sit in silence.
|28 weeks 1 day ago||Nice||
Like everyone else, I'll be a lot older then. But this is another nice addition to the future schedules. Brain says this is the "first game that comes close to NDs appeal." Maybe that's true, but ND's appeal is 10/10. There aren't many 10/10 programs out there and white tape and other commitments probably made them difficult to schedule less than a decade ahead. I think we've done a pretty good job scheduling.
I don't see anything wrong with Oregon State or Colorado, BYU or Central Florida in 2015 and 16. But I do admit they aren't necessarily needle movers. I'll give the AD some benefit knowing that it probably is somewhat difficult to attract big names on short notice (or one reason or another).
Besides this season (mostly the Big Ten's fault. HOW are MSU and OSU both away in the same year? Plus no Wisconsin or Nebraska) the scheduling commitments look fine moving forward.
BTW, we play Utah - a recent perrenial 10+ win team before a move TO the Pac-12 this year. For as bad as our home schedule is, I think Utah, Penn State, and Maryland are three games I'm very interested in.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Haha||
Haha it's a leap! But you can't see Glenn Robinson III being a throw-in in a potential Kevin Love for Andrew Wiggins deal? That trade will probably have like 7 pieces (players or picks), and a second round salary with first round potential might be interesting for the Cavs. The TWolves roster at 2/3 might get crowded if they end up with LaVine, Shabazz, Wiggins, and whoever else.
I do agree though. The only correct answer here is Mitch McGary, because he's the only guy currently playing for a contender.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||GRIII||
Love to Cavs for Wiggins. Plus others. One of those others is GRIII who gets a chance to make the Cavs roster and provide bench athleticism while developing into a rotation contributor on a championship team.
|28 weeks 3 days ago||Good point||
Good point. That's what I do. I bubble often and that's my big game treatment.