fair point that
|1 week 6 days ago||One year||
Are you talking just this year?
Branch has been a solid contributor for nearly a decade now. He hasn't been a star, but it's far from his first year doing well. Same with Hall, Long, Woodley, Harris, Stevie Brown, Avant, several other olinemen and others.
Now if we ARE talking just this year it's kind of slim pickings. Harris easy third, but afterwards...hmm
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Big Ten Network||
Sad news for the Big Ten and Coach Kill. I'm hoping he can land at Big Ten Network, where we need actual personalities who know football and I assume would accomodate his health needs better than being a head coach would.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Good post||
Draymond Green, Magic Johnson, Kirk Cousins, Travis Trice....and Tom Izzo
|7 weeks 1 day ago||QBs||
I have the same opinion about QBs. Why are Cousins, Hoyer, McCarron, and so many more "game managers' sticking in the league as back-up QBs despite mediocre physical tools? They know how to think the game and manage a pro-style offense.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Don't be so sure||
We have an OL coach guru and the physically impressive, to-be Junior son of an OL coach guru waiting for his opportunity.
That's not a knock against Glasgow. It's just humblebrag that we are probably past the days of relying on extradinary individuals to be our only good players in spite of poor coaching or youth.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||His Dessert Analogy||
I think I'm a pretty smart guy, but I cannot wrap my head around what he's trying to say with that dessert analogy to Maryland's offense. Maryland paid for defense? And feels like they don't need offense. All I'm saying if WOOF, nice try, guy.
And in the last paragraph he says we don't have talent or depth. Talent, maybe, at certain positions. But I think we're actually pretty deep at every positiion save QB and LB. Lots of guys are contributing all over the field.
|16 weeks 14 hours ago||Another reply||
Another reply because you're so right about the expectations bit. I was thrilled with the outcome of this hoops season because my expectations after departures and injuries reached a nadir of "get better and compete." We did that, and it was fun to watch.
|16 weeks 14 hours ago||Good post||
I completely agree about expectations, and will try to temper mine.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||QBs||
Jehu - "I don't want to leave out any names"
Mentioned Malzone, Morris, Rudock, Cleary, and Moores....did Speight officially transfer? Or is he still around? I can see not mentioning O'Korn or Gentry, but Wilton is an afterthought to walk-ons now?
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Booing||
I was against it at the time but I'm also against the players (Jabrill) acting like it was uncalled for. If 5-7 and garbage performance was Ok with them, I'm missing something. They "deserved" to get booed. Not saying we should have done it, but Jabrill should acknowledge they did it I themselves. 5-7 isn't acceptable at Michigan.
|19 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah||
Yeah come on, he's gonna get another contract. He was solid as a rookie and below average as a sophomore. His floor is mediocre backup point guard. My prediction is a few good-great sessions. - Jameer Nelson is my career comparison. His ceiling is still as high as his situations and desire dictate. Billups isn't a perfect comparison style and size-wise, but it took him several years to really figure things out. Burke will be a long time pro barring injury.
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Ouch||
Doesn't create much excitement when our "5th" and "4th" best offensive players are a Senior WR whose most memorable plays have been in run blocking, and a Junior QB whose most memorable plays include either concussions or interceptions, and who most believe will not be the starter.
So that's sad. But I don't think it's as bad as it sounds. I just think the guy making the list is a dope.
5 - Darboh
4 - Cole
3 - Glasgow
1 - Green/Isaac/Smith/Johnson (Tough to pick WHO it will be, but there's enough talent/competition for someone to emerge, and a good enough offensive line to expect good production)
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Well then||
You'll love the fact that my nickname for Caris LeVert is Caris "The Jump." I'm so funny.
|21 weeks 21 hours ago||Working||
I'm a new intern, so you get what you sign up for.
Don't get sick this weekend...
|23 weeks 21 hours ago||Bottom 20||
I probably wouldn't include LS or K in the bottom 20. They're naturally lower ranked and I'm much more interested in seeing names of position players who may or may
|24 weeks 6 days ago||Venom||
He proved he's a good executive in the past, just an awful athletic director. He didn't take any shots at UofM and did say he learned from the experience. We (the MGoBlog Community) are such haters. Dave Brandon couldn't do anything that would receive anything less than a "he's an asshat" reaction.
I'll get negbanged. But let's move on.
|26 weeks 18 hours ago||I know||
I know for an absolute fact that this type of thing happens at UofM, and would bet any at any other program across the country too.
|31 weeks 1 day ago||Tate Forcier||
As just one example, the 5th Quarter in a2 used to let 18 year old Tate Forcier play bartender and pass out drinks to himself, friends, and random customers on Saturday nights.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||Have you seen him play?||
His motor skills are not there. It's a miracle he can do what he can do. There's no shame in that. He's a total success even with a medical.
|31 weeks 2 days ago||If you read objectively||
The "complaint" is that he pushes guys too hard and demanded too much...and also deliveres winning results from losing programs in every instance.
These are exactly the type of thing I want to read, and confirm to me that he's at UofM for the long haul. Coaches in college are the stars, and we'll allow him to be his special brand of crazy for the next 20 years while our players get 3-5 years of that intensive treatment. I think we might see a few more early entries than we've had (because they'll have the opportunity and maybe be a little worn out), but we're going to win football games and they're going to be better football players for it.
Michigan will be a national powerhouse within the next 3 years. I have never been so sure about anything.
|32 weeks 6 days ago||Come on now||
Every single bar? Can I sue every bar in my city too, because they're guilty of the same thing - serving alcohol to potentially too drunk a-holes
|33 weeks 10 hours ago||Coaching||
Chicken or the egg. He may not be a mastermind but it's hard to coach a well-oiled machine out of freshmen and sophomores. Whenever Mark Cuban-types complain about NCAA rules ruining the NBA product I have to laugh at them because NCAA coaches don't have nearly enough time to coach their guys and prepare them for the next level. Sure, rules could be tweaked but the 35-second shot clock is not the problem with college hoops. AAU streetball and constant turnover of the most promising young players is.
|33 weeks 10 hours ago||Cue Cal||
Cue John Calapari complaining about how hard his life is.
|33 weeks 1 day ago||Chris Perry||
He sounds like Chris Perry. I loved Chris Perry.
|33 weeks 5 days ago||His Evals||
His evaluations sound incredible for a fullback. At very least, a stout, instinctual guy who loves contact will be a player for us.
|34 weeks 3 days ago||Rankings||
If you buy the rumors that some coaches rely on rankings to recruit....highly ranked may lead to good offers but does not equal great potential or great fit.
|34 weeks 3 days ago||Consistent excellence makes||
Consistent excellence makes you elite. MSU, Duke, and Kansas are literally in the conversation literally every March, and that's why they're elite. You can afford to miss once in a while (like Kentucky, Florida, or UCONN). But consistent Sweet 16s, Elite 8s, and something approximating one final four per 4-year class (that's hard to do...I really do give Izzo credit for that tidbit that barely died) will make you "Elite". Of course, you have to win it all once too.
|34 weeks 5 days ago||OP||
I didn't see the episode because I don't watch Archer, but I'm with the OP. 75% or more that Zoltan Kovacs is a brainchild of a Michigan fan writer. The 25% is a wild coincidence.
|34 weeks 6 days ago||Hackett||
It was the coaches decision to schedule the spring this way, not Hackett's. Maybe it will change next year. I think our coaches wanted to get their hands on our team as as soon as possible to instill the culture, familiarize themselves with our personnel, and other similar reasons.
|35 weeks 16 hours ago||I'm confused||
So is the update that he did indeed tear it? The way you present the information in this post is pretty unclear.
|35 weeks 21 hours ago||Nike Maize||
As a past member of the Maize Rage, I hated wearing maize to games. I was always so pale in the winter and the highlighter Adidas was not a good luck. I much prefer the corn Nike Maize.
|36 weeks 18 hours ago||Maybe||
Maybe if you signed them all to 10 year contracts and let them mature as individuals and a team. But now? Not even close.
|36 weeks 20 hours ago||Who cares||
I think that people who get upset about wearing jerseys are over analyzing it. Who cares. It's fashion.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||Once through||
I gave it one quick run through and no songs jumped out at me as certified "5 stars" in my book. GKMC had several - Don't Kill My Vibe, Money Trees, Swimming Pools, & The Art of Peer Pressure were immediately favorites. Beyond that, GKMC's other songs grew on me as I appreciated the artistry and story telling.
Like I said, just one run through. So I'm sure it'll grow on me as I'm able to "listen" more to it. But I didn't get that love at first listen that I've had with his other projects. I'm a longtime fan and looking forward to diving deeper into this project.
|36 weeks 2 days ago||Great||
You guys should be proud of your efforts, and it sure seems like you're genuinely good people. Thanks for representing the Block M and our community so well, and keep it up.
|36 weeks 3 days ago||He got 2||
He legitimately did.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||That's true||
That's all true, but let's try to remember that he's a young redshirt freshman and big dudes are notoriously slower to develop. Kaminsky is a force today....he was not for his first 2.5 years on campus.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||No||
We went 15-15. Spike was good and I love having him. But he's not close to the rebounder, defender, or scoring threat that Walton is. And Walton has much more room left to grow.
|37 weeks 17 hours ago||Miller||
Jack Miller was never meant to exist at 300 lbs. Don't underestimate the physical tolls of football, and his weight situation specifically. He arrived on campus at "260" and his knees and feet are probably telling him enough is enough. So while it might not be "all academic," I don't think there's a dark reason. Academic plus physical most likely. Not to mention the mental demands of playing at this level.
|37 weeks 2 days ago||Cars||
1. I am soon to graduate from medical school
2. I drive the same Honda Accord I purchased when I first got my liscence. It's a solid car.
3. I plan on driving that car into the ground in order to save money to pay off loans. Even when I do, I'll buy something decent and reliable...with 4-wheel drive. I've never coveted a luxury car.
|37 weeks 6 days ago||Never say never.||
If we play indoors at Ford Field, weather won't be a factor. Jk, hopefully.
|38 weeks 14 hours ago||Rules||
I'm not completely sure, but I think this is legal. I think you can be in the same area - you just can't talk to them. I remember stories of coaches literally walking by players in the hallway and not being able to say hello.
|38 weeks 18 hours ago||I don't know||
In Beilein I trust...but pass? A guy whose first season of eligibility would be as redshirt junior in the same year that Aubrey, MAAR, Duncan, and Chatman will all be juniors. And those are just guys who could possibly play in the backcourt. Walton and Irvin would be Seniors. As of now, we wouldn't have any sophomores.
I see that we need guards, so a 6'2" Sina fits that need. But that class is way too heavy on the junior class. I'd much rather bank the scholarship and take a late bloomer in the 2015 class (Spike, MAAR, and Aubrey worked out OK) or take a giant 2016 class that possibly includes some really big fish.
|39 weeks 1 day ago||MD and Rutgers||
I'm totally fine with Maryland in the Big Ten. And Rutgers maybe too. Their football is respectable in a Minnesota type of way, and at least they represent an easy win on the hardwood? Recruiting doors opened up a bit more in that area it seems.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||Nice feeling||
It's been announced that he's doing that, hasn't it?
|39 weeks 3 days ago||My own horn||
I'll toot my own horn and say that I saw this coming. It's deep within the evidence of my MGoBlog profile on several occasions. He was written off because of lack of PT. But he always had fairly productive short stints as a rebounder and general big body. Opportunity unleashes potential. It's hard to show what you can do in 4 mpg stints, ask Nik how the NBA is going.
|39 weeks 6 days ago||Because||
Because he loves the team and his teammates, doesn't want to "go out like that," wants to go from borderline first round pick to the lottery pick that he can be (weak '16 draft, and he's very young, and wants his M degree for life after basketball.
|39 weeks 6 days ago||Hatch||
I agree with you. But if I had to bet, Hatch will ask for a medical redshirt after his Sophomore or Junior year if it becomes clear that he's still nowhere near contributing. He has a ton of integrity and will be honest with himself, and I can see him wanting to free up a scholarship for someone who needs it and can help the team when it becomes clear that his miracle recovery has a ceiling to what he will accomplish at the D1 level.
|39 weeks 6 days ago||Max||
Beilein has said continuously and recently that Max will not return next year.
|40 weeks 1 day ago||Irvin||
I like Zak, but I think he is what he is. That's a four year guy, great college performer. He's not an early entry candidate, unless he feels his age will hurt him too much and wants to gamble as a second round pick next year. I think his best case is to continue to develop and get drafted mid second round as a Senior, and have to body and refinement to stick around as a rotation 3+D. He's a decent athlete and a good shooter. But you can't really teach driving and finishing instincts. He doesn't have them. He's getting better with time, but the NBA athletes will put him back to square one.
|40 weeks 5 days ago||Gone Girl||
I went to see it with a girl who I had been seeing for a month. Things were never quite the same afterwards.
It was a really good movie though! haha
|40 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
Burke was by all means awesome as a freshman. Darius Morris is the player we should think about and hope for in Kam. I'm going to hold his stock. I see the tools, he just has a long way to go to polish. And I trust our coaches completely in helping him reach his potential.
|41 weeks 18 hours ago||My sources||
My sources told me that Gideon was a bit frustrated with his role last year. After getting a fair bit of PT as a freshman, he seemed to get less meaningful play last year. I think he'll be licking his chops this spring with new coaches
|41 weeks 1 day ago||Awesome Thread Idea||
I don't necessarily have a suggestion, but this is a pretty cool thread topic.
Somebody said Jim Abbott above...that's a great one. Broad appeal.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||The same||
Many of us applied to and attended UofM, but there are plenty of good options in Michigan and beyond. Plenty of my classmates went to and graduated from MSU, and are doing well. Others opted for Kzoo, Western, smaller colleges in the Midwest, and the super bright might have gone Ivy.
So in conclusion, I don't think it is any different than living in any other city. Except that most still cheer for Michigan to some extent (some MSU grads completely shifted, while others play the "when they're not playing MSU" card).
|42 weeks 4 days ago||Donnal||
Donnal is also a young sophomore, redshirt freshman. And big men are notorious for being late bloomers. Neither Chatman or Donnal should have a grade right now.
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan||
The degree matters, and they are close. But college is also only 4 years of life and UM will provide the best campus experience by far. I have friends who went to NW and they came to AA extremely often.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||That's possible||
You're right and it's possible. But I think his most likely trajectory is Redick, not Adam Morrison and not Ray Allen.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||Trey Burke||
Trey Burke and Nik Stauskas were overdrafted. As lottery picks, one might expect them to be superstars. They won't be. But I'll bet on both becoming valuable members of NBA teams throughout their careers. Jameer Nelson for Trey Burke, and JJ Redick for Nik Stauskas (I know, I know). And those are both fine NBA careers.
Meanwhile Hardaway was drafted mid-20s and seems like he's doing great when you compare to the other two. He'll have a similar career to Burke and Nik, but get more credit because he doesn't have the "Lottery" pick tag.
McGary is a wildcard. If he's healthy I think the sky is the limit, Marc Gasol style. But these injuries keep happening.
GRIII knew the risk he was taking. He made an NBA roster and earned a guaranteed contact. I don't think he expected 20 mpg as a rookie. But he is practicing with an NBA team and coaches, and working on his game every day. It's way to early to judge whether he left "too soon," because I think his career is probably on par with any reasonable expectation so far.
Darius Morris is on an NBA roster for the 4th consecutive season. He didn't leave "too early," because it's tough to argue that he would have developed more in school than he would have playing basketball 24/7 with NBA tutors. I think he just is what he is, and NBA journeyman at best. As a second round pick he would have been easy to just discard his contact. But he's still around, and he's a millionaire.
Manny Harris did leave too early. Guy played in the NBA, and played decently. But he can't seem to find a job in the league for whatever reason. A successful senior season could have at least given him a chance with a different path.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||Today||
I got into and graduated from Michigan. But I doubt I'd get in today. It gets harder and harder each year.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||Come on||
That's a rookie mistake. I hope the national media lets this go because it's way to early for my Harbaugh Honeymoon to get ruined by bad PR
|43 weeks 2 days ago||5s||
I don't think Wilson will be a 5. I think he played out of necessity earlier this season, but he's an ideal 4 who is athletic enough to play some 3. Donnal can play the 5, and I'm proud of the way he's responded physically already this year, but I think he's an idea 5. Jr. Doyle, So. Cook, and Jr. Donnal as a center depth chart would give Jon Teske a very clear destiny of redshirting.
Personally I think Beilein see's Wisconsin and wants to build a surplus of big men so he can create an almost guaranteed redshirt year for his big men. He's not exactly chasing McGarys, Plumlees, Stones, or Okafors. If that's the plan, I like it. Give everybody who we see as a center that college "prep" year.
|43 weeks 3 days ago||Izzo||
That's not entirely true. He's been quoted saying (paraphrasing), "Do I respect Beilein. Tremendously. Do I respect Michigan. Tremendously. Do I like them? Not one bit."
I think that's an 100% acceptable answer from a rival coach, especially considering OUR particular rivalry. He's playing his role, we'll play ours. It's more fun that way. Taking off the maize and blue goggles, I like Izzo just fine to run MSU's program.
|43 weeks 3 days ago||Serious Answer||
I'll give you a serious response, since I doubt you want to take most of the advice and come across as a total a-hole on Lansing TV.
I actually do have a lot of respect for MSU. Their athletic department is extremely strong right now. And yes, I enjoy rivalaries more when both teams are strong so I'm excited that our hoops program is 'back' and I'm hoping to see our football program rebound to match their suddenly strong program.
|44 weeks 2 days ago||Again||
Another opportunity for us to get on our high horse. He was being totally honest. Maybe not politically correct, but I personally react to injuries as "well that sucks for them/him, but at least there's a benefit to my team." I felt that way when Barnett went down, Rayvonte Rice, and Trevon Jackson.
|44 weeks 3 days ago||Hatch||
Calling Hatch healthy is definitely a stretch.
|45 weeks 2 days ago||No||
No, because that's a slap in the face and a step down for a guy with a bright future in coaching. I want to keep Roy, but the coaching carousel has other openings. He'll land as a position coach with a decent BCS conference team
|45 weeks 4 days ago||Who cares?||
Nothing for me to get upset about or laugh at here.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Btw||
My other post isn't a shot at you by any means. I just don't think there were any clues besides his plan to return. I'll be a hypocrite by speculating that he left the team to support somebody rather this deal with his own issues. Who knows though. Glad he's back, and hope it's all under control.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||I think||
I think it's best not to speculate, but reading between the lines it seemed like a family thing rather than a personal thing. Glad to see he's back.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||UA||
Football is fine but their hoops gear is supposedly way behind. Nike is the best choice, and I'd take Adidas hoops over UA. Wouldn't hate it, but Nike is the only sure upgrade.
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Poor logic||
I can't give a figure, but most coaches don't coach the position they played in college. That's just a simpleton argument.
|46 weeks 4 days ago||These type of comments||
You write "JH would never" when you mean "Can't see JH doing"... He might just let Manning coach the DBs. How do you know what he would never do, Kawakami?
|46 weeks 4 days ago||Roster||
I agree that it shouldn't mean anything for the QBs on the current roster. But in this case, the hype for Rosen seems to match Harbaugh and we have a pretty highly regarded QB currently committed. I didn't say we were giving up on Malzone by wanting Rosen, but we also don't talk about him much when discussing QB woes. Rosen on the other hand comes up all the time despite barely being realistic.
Just a bird in hand vs two in the bush type thing.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Mora||
I think there may be some smoke here, as far as him leaving.
It would help us with Clark and KLS. But Rosen isn't coming. Let's get excited about the local kid with a winning pedigree who never wavered from his Michigan commitment when he had every reason to reconsider.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||No||
An Ohio State quarterback will not be transferring to Michigan. It's not going to happen. Stop with these posts.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Max||
I love the fight from Max right there.
And it's more pronounced because the success of our last two teams, but this squad makes offense look so hard.
|46 weeks 6 days ago||Plan B||
I have a inside source that I consider very reliable who says that Hackett's top 4 was Jim, Les, Mora Jr., and Sean Payton...not necessarily in that order. Payton's reps did reach out, and apparently Mora and UCLA are not in a completely happy marriage.
|47 weeks 4 days ago||Delete||
Who cares, and finding out would be an invasion of privacy in my opinion.
|47 weeks 6 days ago||Low Variance||
I expect our run game to be A caliber, and our defense to be very strong as well. Our passing game will be a question mark; but if we can get steady play from the QBs, I think Butt and Darboh can be chain movers.
|48 weeks 1 day ago||Good post||
And can be summed up by
|48 weeks 5 days ago||I'm cool with it||
He was with Michigan for 8 months - and was able to work with our players for about 5 of those months. In our society of instant gratification, we expect him to reach his potential instantly. But it takes longer than that to coach what was by all means a young offense. And frankly, Gardner handcuffed him as well.
|49 weeks 1 day ago||Sucks||
I know Hunter, and he's a good dude. I don't agree with many of his recent comments and he might not feel the pulse of the fan base...but like Hoke, this is a good guy who just lost his job. Let's accept the decision for what it is (decent news from a fan perspective) but also recognize that it's a guy with small children who are going to move for the second time in like 5 years. No need to put a middle finger in the man's face if you see him in public.
|50 weeks 6 days ago||Wrong||
Mora Jr. and Stoops are in play. Maybe not "likely" but let's stop kidding ourselves, we don't know anything. Those guys are definitely an option to some extent.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||Max||
Max reclassified as a senior and will almost certainly be playing his 5th year elsewhere.
Not that there is a huge difference in our offense, but I see Dawkins as more of a 3/4 than a 2/3 (response to guy a few posts above). The 3 and 4 are pretty similar in our offense ("right hand" vs. "left hand" corner basically). But the 2 (whatever you want to call it) seems to require some point guard play and superb ball handling. Stauskas and LeVert are the best examples of this. Therefore, Duncan seems like more of a 3/4 himself. Irvin and Chatman have the capacity to be that type of player, but it's too early to count on that. Assuming LeVert does bolt, we're looking at Walton, Spike, and MAAR as the three guys with that primary ball handler ability. PJ Dozier would have been a perfect fit as that big off the ball guy who can play PG. Since we didn't get him...well, lets home MAAR has a productive offseason or Irvin and Chatman can grow into that role. Chatman in particular had the reputation of being a great facilitator and ballhandler in high school.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||Off Topic||
This doesn't mention Hoke, Hackett, Harbaugh, Hire, Head Coach, or even use the letter H. This should be off-topic.
Edit: The letter H is used once. That's not enough.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||Our guys||
Your wish will be granted since Hoke will meet with our guys immediately after learning his fate.
|51 weeks 3 days ago||I will||
I will watch the games and cheer as usual, hoping we can right the ship. I'm just not that petty to boycott my favorite team because they haven't been winning and the coach we blame is still there in year 5.
|1 year 2 days ago||Proximity||
They're moving to Plymouth, not Boston...or even Grand Rapids. I think recruiting will be minimally affected.
|1 year 2 days ago||I dunno who came first||
But the hilarity and short term high of Raback's post made it more memorable for me. Plus it rolls off the...keyboard.
|1 year 2 days ago||Ha no||
But autocorrect exists now. I raback it. Is Megan Fox still desirable? Last I saw her was "This is 40," so I'll take it.
|1 year 2 days ago||Gone||
Should he go? That's up for debate. Is he gone? Yes. I will Barack that.
|1 year 3 days ago||Sanity||
For the sake of our sanity? If your sanity depends on who is coaching Michigan, you need a wake up call. R-E-L-A-X. His bed is made and he'll be gone soon. Don't go insane because it might be next Monday instead of tomorrow. Football is a game, let's all chill out and over invest in basketball instead
|1 year 4 days ago||Ann Arbor||
If you're in Ann Arbor, I encourage you to layer up as if you were boarding a boat in the Arctic Circle. There is no Dave Brandon anymore. This team - especially our seniors - deserve a show of support from the fans. I know it's not that simple for anybody, but I would hate for them to go out in front of a half-full Michigan Stadium after such a roller coaster career. Go Blue.
|1 year 1 week ago||Hoke||
You have unreasonable expectations of Hoke. He gathered all the info possible, and made a decision based on that. Clark is currently in jail - it may not be as easy as a quick phone call to speak to him.
|1 year 1 week ago||Great work||
The first post (main page or board) that I've been 100% pleased with. Very well said, and it's the truth.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Carr like||
Are we still saying that like its a bad thing? How many programs win 10 games a year and conference championships fairly consistently? Very very few. How many do better than that? Just Alabama.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||You're right||
But we fired the AD we hate, and we're 2-0 since then (and playing marginally better...I know, I know, it's relative). Plus our basketball team is established, and we have the talent and foundation for a quick turnaround with a good coaching hire.
I agree that we're our own worst enemy, but I think we're already working on the remedy for that. Therefore I think this OP has a fair question. I'll take OSU tonight. My Spartan brother sent me a video of a newspaper calling MSU one game away from being a national power, and flipped to the next page where Michigan and Northwestern were "desparate programs fighting for a bowl." I'd love to point out that pride comes before that fall tomorrow. Also, taking shit about Michigan on the eve of your biggest game in the program's recent history? Classic Sparty.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Hey man||
I never said I wanted to keep Hoke. I just think how the team has played consistently over the past 18 games is a better reason to fire him than whatever he did today. At some point I just get sick of piling on and blaming every last thing on Hoke. I think our coaching was fine today. Gardner's turnovers are comedy, and completely random as part of a gameplan.
To the above poster who commented on 5* QBs who haven't developed under Hoke...well, there's Devin. Not exactly statistically significant, considering Hoke didn't recruit him. Shane (who's a true sophomore) might be too early to rule out, but he's not looking great either. Bellomy was a last minute recruit and I Recruiting rankings don't guarantee success, and we all know how much the "it factor" is part of the position. I think his biggest mistake was not recruiting anybody above Shane, because it would be nice to have a junior availble as an option to challenge our physically battered RS Senior QB who seems to lack any QB instincts, and our True Sophomore rocket arm who missed his senior year of HS football and has played under two coordinators at UofM already. Finding the right QB is as much luck as it is recruiting. Hopefully Speight or Malzone has "it"
So fire Hoke because of his awful record on the road, or inability to compete with his rivals, or his loyalty to Fred Jackson and Darrell Funk, or his old fashioned approach to running a program. The coaches haven't gotten the job done. But they're not responsible for everything, and the offensive execution falls on the guys who are supposed to well, execute...
|1 year 2 weeks ago||I don't know||
Morris doesn't seem like a fantastic option based on 1) what we've seen in his limited opportunities, and 2) the fact that he's not even on the coaches minds.
I think the purpose of my comment was that, as much as I agree we need a fresh start in the coaching staff, I can't sit here after this game and point at the coaches and say "that's why we're not good!" They've had some clock management hiccups in different games. The special teams personnel is a coaching error. But by and large I think our team is what it is because we have no viable option at the most important position on the field. He is literally a turnover machine.
I don't want to give our team too much credit, but with the Big Ten what it is, our defense a legitimate B+ (lacks a shutdown corner...Hi Jabrill!), and our O-Line improving...I think we could have been a 9-10 win team if we had a "game manager" at QB.
Speight and Malzone have that potential at the very least. I'm not ready to give up on Shane, but he's looking like a rocket arm without QB instincts.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Speight||
We've seen RS Freshmen win the damn heisman. Speight can be a saving grace, and even Malzone has the "moxie" that might make him a viable option as an early enrollee freshman. After all, they'll all start on even footing with (another) (likely) new coordinator. But I do agree -- if Morris doesn't have "it," that's a shame. I do remember Dilfer being unimpressed with his overall makeup at Elite 11 camps. He's a rifle arm, but being a QB is much more than physical talent.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Hoke||
The guy isn't exactly crushing it as our coach, I get it. But we won today, and I don't see any glaring coaching errors as the reason we can't score. It all comes back to QB play. I can't think of a winning team without a good QB, and we happen to have one of the most mistake prone quarterbacks piloting our offense.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Gardner||
Devin Gardner handcuffs the offense. We had great push with the offensive line at times, and ran the ball fairly well. Devin didn't face any more pressure than a QB should expect. But he continues to turn the ball over, stare down receivers, and throw late to our open guys.
Great kid...but he is a huge reason we can't score.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Coaching||
I don't know that Gardner's deficiencies are "coachable." He really handcuffs our offense. We ran the ball fine, but he is turnover prone and seconds late on his throws. Or Funchess drops them when they are on time. So, based on that....I think the coaching was fine today. We won.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Huh?||
That makes him underperforming? We're 4-5 with maybe one quality win. I can argue you're statement is true about 90% of SEC teams compared to ours this season. The poster above has a legitimate point about him being Lloyd-like, but he's a been a consistent winner in the hardest league in college football.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Messiah||
I saw him at the App State game this year, so I'm curious why he would omit that from his answer on how many games he's been to...just saying.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Dramatic response.||
You're not wrong. But are the academics going to plummet if we pay our coach $8million? No way. All I'm saying is given a decision between Harvard and Michigan, I'd pick Michigan every time and campus life is the reason (Harvard is better academically).
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Your last bullet||
Your last bullet makes me sick. Football is the front door to the university. How many out-of-staters apply to and attend Michigan partially because of the promise of big time football and tailgates is not an insignificant amount. How many kids grow up idolizing Michigan because of football isn't either. I'm one of them. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Big time college football is part of American fabric and Michigan needs to be up there. Maybe "UofM" should ask their big donors and gauge the alumni how they feel about football. This blog would be a good place to start...biggest sports blog on the Internet or something, right.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Hatch||
I'm sure this will be poorly received by the "don't crush his dreams" crowd - and I will preface it again by saying we are ALL rooting for Austin to play meaningful basketball at. We are proud of how he's emerged from tragedy, and fortunate to have the opportunity share his story and cheer for him at UofM. I hope he accomplishes every goal he has for himself.
That said, I just want to comment on the facts, because this is the first film I've seen of Austin since he's injury (not counting the 3-pointer in HS which didn't tell us much). He's noticabably slower each of his teammates, and seems to still be working on his coordination. It's already impressive that he's been able to regain this level of athleticism after his injuries. And while I'm still rooting for him (see paragraph #1), this does help reinforce my hunch that he's headed towards a medical redshirt.
If he wants to play all four years and Beliein wants him to dress for every game, I'm 100% on board. This is my opinion, based on what my eyes were able to preceive. Only time will tell.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Get over it||
We need to get over it. In general, people get upset when other people have opinions that are opposite of their own. Are you surprised that the athletes liked Brandon? They had a totally different perspective of him. It's OK that they defend him, and OK that they blame "fans/muggles" for his resignation (because we are responsible). As for using the term, who cares.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Agree||
IN fact, I argue that it was the correct strategy. We're up 17-3 and will the ball after the half. IU can't drive on us. Our QB is a turnover machine. Putting him in an unnecessary fast break offense could give IU a TO, points, and momentum heading into the half. It was absolutely the right move. And we ultimately won by 24, so any arguments against that decision are moot during this game.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Come on||
He was getting healthy buzz before his injury, and has been this season. I'll bet he just wasn't the most productive back in practice. We don't have to blame them for everything. Great win today, Go Blue!
|1 year 3 weeks ago||This||
This is what we can do when we don't have field possession switching, offensive momentum crushing turnovers. Our defense keeps us in, and our offense can slowly gain confidence. Very happy for our guys today
|1 year 3 weeks ago||He's in charge||
He's in charge, but it's the players making the mistakes. Look at Nuss and tell me he's not extremely frustrated with the execution out there. He's had 6 months to erase whatever bad habits existed and teach his way. It's not easy. You can't place all the blame on him.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Frats||
Sort of like frats and GDIs. This is something we should get over, now.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||To be fair||
The blog does cite the news like 1000x more than the reverse. How many Sam Webb or Chengelis articles have we linked or block quoted?
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Disagree||
Everyone, ESPECIALLY Fred Jackson must go.
But, to be serious, I wouldn't mind keeping Nussmeier. Yeah, we've been awful. But I can't blame him as a first year coordinator and some of the comedic turnovers or dropped passes we've had. He's had success elsewhere, and I like his demeanor. Basically I just believe he's a good coach despite this season.
I would keep GMat if he wanted to (and "Coach Harbaugh wanted him). But I see this as less likely than Doug staying. I feel like he and Jim would mesh well, and could see it as a good opportunity to jump to a HC job after 1-2 years. Plus, we wouldn't have to pay his buyout after 1 season.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Wow||
Did you just guarantee Brandon gets fired, and give UofM enough reason to avoid paying his lofty buyout?
|1 year 4 weeks ago||No but||
No, but it's a step in the right direction. We can what if everything and talk about how unrealistic it would be to win out, but IF we DO finish 8-5 or 9-4 with a win today, it would be hard to fire him because that's a huge turnaround and positive momentum. We also basically threw the Minnesota game away (on the coaches, sure) and got jobbed at Rutgers.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Barwis||
If I remember correctly, we had several key injuries under Barwis as well. And I can speak from personal experience, having two close friends who played, that Barwis' workouts were effective for freak athletes (i.e Brandon Graham and Mike Martin) but for the walk-ons and 90% of the other 3/4 star types they felt frankly burnt out and exhausted from the weight room.
It's my opinion that an S&C program should have you feeling your absolute best for game days. Barwis may have taken things a bit too far.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Yes||
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Curious||
I'm curious who your obvious possibilities are. I don't want to break the rule of speculating about injuries, but I will try to rule people out (delete if I cross a line...I certainly wish the best for all of our guys.)
K. Hill - ACLs aren't career ending. Morgan - I suppose, if it's bad enough. But it seems to be upper limb, and he's eligible for a medical redshirt to return. Pipkins - Has been absent lately, this would be a shame. D. Hill - Feels like just yesterday he was our pre-season starter with some buzz. I hope not. Drake Harris - Feels a bit early to call it a career...I REALLY hope not.
Those are the major injuries affecting guys I know about. These three players could include depth guys or walk-ons. Again, I don't wish a career ending injury on anybody...but that seems most likely based on what I do know about contributors who we know are injured.
Get your education fellas, there's life after football for 100% of you. You just know it a bit earlier.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||It's not Peppers||
It's not Peppers. I will Raback that.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||Brian||
I don't always agree with Brian's opinions (especially lately), but I continue to value his opinions and visit this blog because I know they are always based on something real. Thank you for going through lengths to validate whatever information you've acquired instead of rumor mongering.
If it's good -- I hope we learn soon.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Peppers||
I've heard that he is unlikely to play, 2-3 weeks out still.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||I guess||
Yeah, it is. Bu it's for Breast Cancer research, so any insults hurled at them are essentially hurled at breast cancer research...and you don't want to be that guy. So as far as wearing pink in an away game in a hostile environment that's a presumed massacre, this should earn a pass.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Yeah, got it.||
Just looking for an excuse to post a tongue-in-cheek optimstic post for this weekend.
Gardner lives up the lofty #98 standard and gets a standing ovation for his 5 TD performance.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||I think||
I think we've done as much as we can do. The wheels are turning as fast as they'll turn.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Don't apologize||
Don't apologize for being optimistic. What happened, happened. While everyone else was already miserable during August, you were pretty happy. Now we all accept the reality.
The reality that we're going to pull off an upset on Saturday and things will go back to pre-2006 normal!
|1 year 5 weeks ago||CC||
I've seen others post something along these lines, but myy list of desirable head coaches goes:
I don't want to make a change just to make a change. I think Hoke - a guy who loves Michigan and has recruited extremely well. Yes, we should be much better we still do have an objectively young team - in year 5 would be better than another guy with a Hoke-level resume. I think we took a short term step back by firing Borges (hopefully Nuss gets us going very soon) and without making a slam dunk hire, what's the point? We're just that disgruntled where we'd take BC's mediocre head coach instead of our own mediocre head coach? The CC posts have been underwhelming in my opinion.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||I do agree||
I do agree, especially last year. But as much as I appreciate Devin, he's had some crippling turnovers at times over his career.
I hope he can carry us to 6 wins in the next 6 though.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||My thoughts||
Florida and Texas seem to have the same issues as Michigan right now, which makes me feel a little better (not much). Ultimately, most of it comes back to QB play. Here's to hoping Gardner's aneurysm of leadership is the end of stupid, field position crushing turnovers and gives our defense room to keep us in games. I know Gardner can make enough players to win us games, as long as he doesn't make as many to lose us games.
Does Northwestern EVER have a home field advantage?
I have FSU pulling away for a 2 TD victory.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||But, but, but||
But we fired Borges!
Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting a win. But I really believe that MSU is only a good, not great. They'll be fired up to play us, I get that. I do have confidence in our defense to slow their offense down. It's going to depend on whether they can sustain it for four quarters, and that's going to have alot to do with a) giving the offense opportunities for easy points or b) the offense either playing efficient, mistake free football (not counting on it) or c) the offense hitting on a big play or two to give the defense just enough "run support" to keep them motivated.
If we have a shot at winning, it'll look alot like Penn State -- 20-16 or something. It's not impossible. We've never seen Nuss after a bye week, and there's a reason we were excited about him right?
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Neither||
I wasn't able to watch the Rutgers game and ignorance is bliss. Otherwise, from my perspective the defense has looked fine against each of our opponents until around the mid-second quarter where they've been on the field for 8 possessions and 65% of the game set up with poor field position. And in the Penn State game (admittedly a different level of O-Line), they were engaged throughout and played with their hair on fire. I have a little more confidence in them playing with swagger against a rival with the season still on the brink, anuerusyms of leadership, etc...
I don't know man. I'm trying to convince myself there's a shot at winning, because it's way more depressing to watch a football game like it's a punishment.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||No Question||
In term of style of play, especially.
My confidence in an upset is going up against MSU and staying the same for OSU (it was already low; and I think "throw the records out" factor will have some say).
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Michigan State||
MSU just isn't as good as last year. Despite our record (and performance), I think we ARE better than last year overall (i.e. without a massive achilles heel on the O-Line). From what I'm seeing, I think we have a shot at pulling off the upset if our defense can play to potential. I have faith the the run defense and I think their O-Line can be vulnerable to a pass rush. Can't allow any big plays in the passing game, and create a few a turnover or two.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Really?||
About that last comment - wait, really?
I definitely get why. I've posted my thoughts in more detail elsewhere in the thread. I guess I just expecte more than name calling and obscenities after this move. Regardless of the motive, it's good news.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Fair analogy||
That's a fair analogy, and I do understand that it's a last ditch effort that deserves maybe a bit of facepalm. But it's still the right move. That's why my reaction is "too little, too late," and not "WTF Dave!!!"
I do like your analogy, but on the other hand maybe he's finally reached a point where he realizes he needs to reign it in and can't get away with his antics anmore. His job is literally in jeopardy. So I'll offer another comparison, a person with a drug habit or self-induced health problems that has a "come to Jesus" moment after a very close call. There's plenty of examples of "this person" turning it around.
There are other analogies available to prove whatever point somebody is trying to prove. He's to hoping we never have to find out how the story will actually end. As far as the AD is concerned, I'm more interested in a fresh start than a story of redemption. On the other hand, I am willing to give Hoke another year *IF* he earns it in the next 6 games (contingent upon a fresh start at AD...one has to go).
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Yes||
I am really dumbfounded by this entire thread. This is absolutely the right move from a guy in Dave's position. We all think he's a douchebag, fine. But we're piling on to this move, a direct response to one source of fan discontent - swiftly timed to try and prove he's willing to change. This is pathetic. I think I'd prefer that Dave that pull a Marcus Hall and raise the prices so we could actually have something to complain about.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Good||
I don't really understand the comments above me. He's trying to right an obvious wrong. Maybe it's too little too late, but you guys would honestly prefer that he doesn't try to fix it? That he just continues to thumb his nose and screw the students?
Like I said, maybe it's not enough to change your perception or make you want to keep him. But I can't fathom how this is anything BUT a good thing coming from Dave Brandon, a guy who is currently our AD and may still be next year. If our regents don't pull the plug, at least he's willing to bend for the students...maybe mending relationships with season ticket holders and righting other wrongs would come next.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Thanks||
THANK YOU. Absolutely true, and part of my frustration with this board's tendency to harp on stupid things just to pile on to Hoke and Brandon. Their actual resumes are enough - are we really using weight, press conference vocabulary (or reluctance to answer questions), and college athletic achievements as reasons they aren't cutting it?
Mediocre coaching and corporate overhaul of our athletic culture are good reasons to want change. And that should be enough.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Great||
Great, another opportunity to scrutinize everything Hoke says or does.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Ok||
Pipkins has been injured, Countess was all-big ten last year and has had a great career to this point, RJS is behind some good linebackers, and Ross has played well thus far in their careers. I think depth/competition is a factor and their poor play this year is a bit exaggerated.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||I don't care||
I don't care how good Northwestern looks or how bad Michigan looks. I will never predict us to lose to Northwestern. That said, they don't look that good (despite a few decent wins) and we are improving (plus our losses may not have been as bad as we think - Utah, Minny looking solid). Me personally, I will buy us at 6 wins. Whether we beat MSU or OSU is a different story, but if we can pull out one of those plus a bowl game I think Brady Hoke may have saved his job for another year.
Whatever your opinion is on him being back for another year - I will never ever cheer for Michigan to lose just for a coaching change. Therefore, I guess I'm still cheering for Hoke to save his job until he actually loses it.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Nope||
I don't think you're in the minority based on my conversations. Brian is entitled to his opinion, but that doesn't make it the majority. I loved them too.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Screw you||
You and all the other "guys in the elevator".
|1 year 6 weeks ago||I disagree||
I think that is the wisest strategic decision we could make at this point. I don't understand why they don't admit the reason they don't talk about injuries (competitive advantage), but I definitely understand why they don't. I don't think it makes a huge difference usually, but why not? And in this case, Gardner vs. Morris/Bellomy is a huge huge dropoff. I'd rather MSU wonder who's playing than have a clear picture of what Devin is dealing with.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Spin||
Gardner considered leaving on his own accord and decided to stick it out. This was years ago. Hoke didn't "ask him to leave." We all knew this already, this slapdick just decided to get the story wrong for entertainment value.
Also, his commentary about Gardner playing injuried was weak. Guys play injured! He wanted to play injured! I think we took him out initially as a direct reaction to the Morris fiasco, because Gardner clearly looked frustrated on the bench (mostly about the fact he GOT injured, I presume).
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Maybe||
Or sometimes a guy just doesn't have it. I could be in the system for 5 years, and if you put me in it wouldn't be any prettier. Bellomy knew the plays and knew the steps. He just threw in defenders. The game moves too fast for him. You can't necessarily coach that
|1 year 6 weeks ago||Ok||
Ok so spend a lot more money on coaches and facilities, but cut revenue and don't accept advertising or donation money. Got it.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||This is becoming too much||
Guy had a brain fart. Who here hasn't had a brain fart? I know he's kind of riding a wave of mistakes, but is this really worth piling on?
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Come on||
I don't think he forced Norfleet to say it. Sure, they want us to show up on time. Do we really care whether they used it in a promotion to get us to show up and support our team?
At this point I think it's very clear that we want Brandon out. Considering the tickets have already been purchased, this particular boycott does nothing but hurt the guys on the squad (Norfleet), make recruits question our fanbase on our biggest stage to impress them, and give ESPN more rabble about Michigan win or lose.
This demonstration will not affect Brandon's job status. Schissel and the reagents will. Go Blue, please show up.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Supposed to be funny||
It was supposed to be kind of a joke, but fell totally flat. Not a complainer here. But I do sometimes lack awareness of what's actually funny. Carry on.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Who?||
Marlin and Cato are distinguishable names. Todd must be Todd Howard? Ray...as in Marcus Ray? Why'd you switch to last name, that's confusing. And who is B-Will? Brandon Williams? Should I know him as B-Will?
|1 year 7 weeks ago||Patiently waiting||
I'm patiently waiting for UofM to announce that Jordan has signed a contact to be our head coach in waiting.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||He's right||
And people taking shots at Kirk for his opinions are irrational.
|1 year 7 weeks ago||No||
He's said it the entire time. Hoke obviously didn't play the event right, but after the fact he's most guilty of not passing any of the blame. I think originally he thought he could plead ignorance, accept blame, it it would blow over. Now that it's taken on another life I think most of what he says it truth.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||I agree||
I agree with most of your points. I also agree with the people saying "is another post necessary." I agree that we are overreacting. And I just can't wait to talk football again. Real football, - not injuries and not coaching.
Here's to hoping an away game will actually be less distracting than a home game and allow our guys to find their groove. Go Blue!
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Flip Flop||
I've never understood why flip-flopping is such a hot topic. Sure, it's bad in some scenarios. But isn't it wiser to adjust your opinions based on the facts that are available? I'll flip flop all day if I'm switching from a bad choice to a better one.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Chill out||
You gonna call him a "Fake Wolverine" like OSU did with Herbstreit? Everything isn't always black and white. I think there are a ton of truths being told to different degrees. Ultimately a level of miscommunication within our athletic department. I'm on board for Dave Brandon to be fired. But the Hoke outrage is a lot about losing and mob mentality is definitely part of it.
Brandon looks awful over the course of the past 6 years, Hoke looks like a bad coach with a little too much on his plate, and we, the fans, look impatient, fickle, and arrogant. Third coach we've tried to push out in 8 years. Can we all just chill out a little bit?
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Too much||
We, as fans, are doing a little bit too much with this stuff. I've said it before, I think Brandon (especially), and Hoke misplayed this concussion thing badly. But the amount of outrage that Hoke is receiving is completely disproportionate to the crime. Michigan fans are beginning to cross the line from concerned and noble to obsessive and fickle. OK, maybe not "beginning to."
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Peppers||
I have a close friend that works for the team. Peppers was on crutches all week and was never going to play. The rumor of him in the locker room with his back to the coaches and upset is complete BS.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Given a choice||
Given a choice of only, I would rather fire Dave Brandon than Brady Hoke. The bumbling PR is on Dave Brandon. The ticket prices and corporate feel is on Brandon. We use that angst to pile on to Brady Hoke's downward trajectory. Hoke hasn't been great and deserves the hot seat, but Brandon would satisfy me. I still don't see an attractive mid-season option to firing Hoke. He fumbled this Morris situation, but I think is a bit of an overreaction on Hoke's role/motive. Brandon on the other hand, needs to go.
Still praying for that mid-season turnaround. I cheer for Michigan, I don't get my jollies on engaging in sepculation of contraversy. And if Hoke pulls off a miracle 9-3, he should stay. If we continue playing like a pee-wee team...then he shoud be fired.
But Fire Brandon!
|1 year 8 weeks ago||That part||
I get that he went back into the game. But we all saw Bellomy trying to find a helmet that fit for like 25 seconds. Putting him into the game to hand the ball off was the least upsetting part of the whole thing for me. But I guess out of context he "went back in the game" and could have gotten decapitated again on a late hit?
|1 year 8 weeks ago||YES||
This thing was misplayed. But the outrage about it is overboard. It's a volcano of Michigan angst in the perfect storm of Brandon's corporate spirit and Hoke's inability to put a winning team on the field. I'm not defending anyone's actions in this particular instance, but attacking Hoke's character and some people going as far to suggest he had a death wish (seriously?!?) for his player is way too far.
We, as Michigan fans and community, never accepted RichRod then pushed him out after 3 seasons of F -> D -> C football. Now we're doing the same to Hoke after B+ -> B- -> C -> C football. WE basically fired Borges, and I believe we would be better RIGHT NOW with him. We hate Brandon, so we hate everything and anything the athletic department says or does.
Fire Brandon, OK. Fire Hoke, OK. But can we fire ourselves while we're at it? I'm the biggest Michigan fan around and our pretentiousness and arrogance is becoming way too much for me to handle.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Status Quo||
It's status quo for a player or coach to say "we can't pay attention to what's being said outside of our locker room" and stuff like that. But why? If it's me, I might start collecting the haters and use it to fuel my fire. If Desmond Howard says this about me I'm gonna play with a chip on my shoulder all season long. That's quite the indictment. Wake up squad! Don't ignore the haters, prove them wrong instead.
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Brandon||
I wouldn't mind if Brandon was fired. But I have a feeling that he's aware of the backlash and that season ticket holders and students will get a pretty sweet deal next year, and possibly beyond.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Keep Brady Hoke!||
Not actually, the way we're playing. But he will finish the season here. And I am cheering for a miraculous turnaround and a 9-3 finish so we CAN keep him and feel good about it. He's a great man. Maybe not a great coach, but he has 8 games left to prove otherwise.
Go Blue, Beat Minnesota.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Brady is his meal ticket?||
The guy left the Ravens. He is his own meal ticket. Brady is just his current boss.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Minnesota||
Death of an optimist indeed. I've been designing scenarios where we can redeem ourselves and Hoke will look like the guy for the job. Brandon hasn't been that bad, I say, it's the losing that rubs everyone. After this one...I'm on life support. I won't go as far to say the season is lost, because you still have to play the games. It sure as hell doesn't look likely, but sports are crazy. He's going to ride the hot seat all season. I just don't think you can fire him in the middle of the season. The only reasonable option is to keep him around and make phone calls to John, Jim, and Les with the hope to pounce on one after their respective seasons. It's a longshot, but Hok will still get the opportunity to win the rest of the games on our schedule.
Beating Minnesota would be a nice start.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Yes||
2008. This is rock bottom, but hey...anything can happen
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Can't edit||
I'm mobile. Can't edit. But what I'm saying is coaching hasn't been an issue at all. Need more accurate throws, a little better pass pro. I guess you could say coaching for the lack of spread punt.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Pessimism||
For as much pessimism as I'm reading. Who here thought we were gonna blow them out?
|1 year 9 weeks ago||Onion so||
Onions. This type of stuff is amazing. I love it when athletes embrace their status and use it to do good. Can't stand celebrities who "never asked to be a role model." Fantastic stuff, JJ.
|1 year 9 weeks ago||I get your point||
I see your point. And sucks for the OP. But I dislike everything about the tone of your post. I don't think being lazy is this team's problem, and as shitty as this schedule looked before the season....Utah is a pretty compelling game, PSU will be very fun, and Maryland should be interesting. Short on big names and awesome opponents, but hey, Michigan is gonna be IN all these games and has a chance to win them all.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Isaac||
I have a friend who works closely with the team. Says that Issac's talent is obvious, but he spent 3 months out of a college weight program so he's behind our current guys in terms of conditioning and looks a bit "doughy."
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Delay of game||
Watching on TV I remember thinking it was way too short. The coaches obviously thought they didn't reset the clock. Any input from people in the stadium? Was the clock operator partially at fault?
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Right||
You're right. And that game is almost more forgivable, although no prepared backup QB isn't good either.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Hoke||
Won a Sugar Bowl, then went 8-5 the following year with losses against Bama (Nat Champ), ND (Nat runner-up), and OSU (undefeated). Other losses @Iowa with a questionable no flag at the buzzer and heartbreaker bowl loss to South Carolina. Last year was really bad, but his entire tenure hasn't been as bad as our memories tell us.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Doing you part huh?||
Paying for tickets, but then not showing up so that our home field advantage is less impressive. And recruits question our fan support.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||I disagree||
Braden has massive potential. He's an all-big ten body. Maybe he's underwhelming right now, but if we can get him up to speed it will bode well for this season and the future.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||The line||
You're dancing on the wrong side of the "No Politics" line.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Yeah||
Yeah that is what it's come to. I can't expect us to win every game anymore because it hasn't happened. In fact, we've looked awful at times. I'm looking for real progress, not a miracle season.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Tongue in cheek||
Meant as a joke. I agree man.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Some people||
Some people just like to watch the world burn.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||I agree||
The way we lost was straight out of 2013. I hated it. And I'm definitely not counting on smooth sailing for the next 4-5 games. I'm just saying, as an optimist, that's what it would take for me to accept the possibility that MAYBE Saturday was just a series of bad breaks that snowballed into a disaster.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Haha||
Too many numbers? Good, I've distracted you from the pain of defeat.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Compliments||
I get the feeling that adding a guy like Duncan Robinson is part of the larger plan for our team. We have role players with an elite skill, now he can tell these guys that we need a few cornerstone guys. Players who can command the ball and be the primary guys. They'll have Duncan on the wing to snipe and spread the floor, and Doyle and Teske to grab boards and command the paint on defense.
I think trying to build the best team possible, not just the best collection of players. The pieces have to fit. Now it's time to strike on 2-3 alpha dogs to compliment our recent commits.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||I get it||
I totally get it. Last week was awful and much of the same stuff as 2013. But I literally cannot wait until Saturday for another game to prove our mettle. Huge concerns with coaching right now, so I'm not upset with your post. Just the volume of them make me want to gouge my eyes out. And I want to believe we will rise up to the challenge and improve. Go Blue.
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Confidence||
Our schedule shapes up with great opportunities to get some confidence back. Obviously an awful game yesterday and we aren't anywhere near looking like a team fans, players, or coaches can be proud of. But the schedule sets up nicely with a cupcakey-game to work out kinks and get our confidence back, a home game against a team that can beat us, a home game against a decent Big Ten team, and a road game against a middling Big Ten team before our next primetime game AT HOME against a solid team with little depth.
Each week is a step up in difficulty. I would be there next week if I could, because I'm not ready to lose hope (or Hoke) yet. I really want to give these guys a chance to prove their mettle, and showing up to support them if I had a ticket would be a good way to do it. We wait all winter and summer for football season. Way too early to write us off, especially when we have a chance to build some momentum with the soft part of our schedule.
*disclaimer: yesterday was very bad. I'm not trying to blow rainbows. I just don't see the sense in "Fire XYZ" posts after 2 games. We still get to play @Rutgers, PSU, @MSU, @OSU, and a Bowl Game to change the tune of big game/road woes*
|1 year 11 weeks ago||No Choice||
I know our players are working hard. I want to believe our coaches can get the job done, because I can't stomach another coaching change and all the turnover it comes with. I really like Hoke and co. But this performance was abysmal, and straight out of 2013. It's really difficult for me to say anything positive about our coaches after that game.
However, I don't really see a choice for the short term. We can talk about coaches in November. But right now, the only option is to watch our game at Miami next week. As bad as it was, you can't abandon a season because of one awful game. The schedule sets up for a winning streak and incremental improvement might have us ready for MSU. Give ourselves a chance to improve and atone. It's the only option right now. Let's try to enjoy the season. Go Blue.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Funny||
It's funny that we both said basically the same thing, except with a much different spin. Glass half full vs. Half empty.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||AD||
I agree. For all the grief that the board gives the AD, they're just obeying the concept of supply and demand. Tickets aren't selling? Lower prices and propose deals. When demand is high, of course ticket prices rise. They didn't write the book on it.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||True||
True, but that's relative. A reasonable flight doesn't compare if you can drive <5 hours and fit four people in your car.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Press Conferences||
I think most of us get it why he's bland in press conferences. Press conferences are a requirement for him. Something he has to do because it's part of the job to work with the media and promote the program. But it's not what drives him to coach or what makes him love his job. Maybe he could be a little more lively in his conferences, but I guarantee that we'll stop nitpicking him if we string together 10 win seasons with a few conference championships and playoff appearances.
I really like the man and am rooting for him to succeed here. Thanks for sharing this snippet.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Press Conferences||
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Honeymoon||
At least we won the Sugar Bowl before our honeymoon with Hoke ended.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Who Cares||
Despite your slippery slope argument, there are no advertisements in the Big House. If somebody wants to sponsor our tweets - go for it. That's free money for a stupid thing like twitter. I would barely notice.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Home||
I like the idea of a bar, but I usually prefer the comfort of my home (or a friends) because most fans frustrate me with their lack of knowledge or pessimism. I can't stand hearing how stupid X-player is or how our head coach can suck...something because a play didn't work. Quarterbacks don't TRY to throw interceptions, and defenders don't TRY to screw up. That's my PSA.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Ha||
Yup, hiding behind an internet disguise has that effect. I'm flattered that you responded to this in the midst of a few "go fuck yourself" comments though.
In a few more words, let me explain.
I think this is a bit petty because you're not watching because of Dave Brandon. He will never know. This game was scheduled because of revenge, not money (if it is money, someone needs to explain to me how paying App State to play us is a money grab. Do we get paid when they play "Horror" highlights?). You may disagree with the decision to schedule it, and that's fine. But many of us love the revenge factor. I want to win this game because I do believe The Horror was the beginning of the downslide. Symbolically, I want to crush App State and set the universe right.
I think it's emotional because "The Horror" was 7 years ago. We shouldn't be so affected by articles about it or watching highlights. It happened, it sucked. The six years following it weren't so great either. Time to move on and cheer for Michigan. I prefer to think of it as "The Horror: Revenge," but if you can't escape thoughts of "The Horror II" then just watch it as Michigan Football Game 1: Road to the Playoff. Also, we look bad if we blow them out? Considering the circumstances I think the sports world will forgive us if we demoralize them. I think we keep it classy in the 55 point range, but I would gladly accept a 90-0 win and any backlash that comes with it.
I hope you reconsider your stance and enjoy a game in what MIGHT BE a special Michigan football season. We're still undefeated in 2014.