|29 min 48 sec ago||Is he?||
Not trying to be a dick. Actually wondering why you think he's a great asset to the beat. This Q&A comes across as answers from a guy whose job is to follow the team. There's nothing wrong with that. But does Quinn have basketball credentials or depth in knowledge? I'm much more impressed by anything over at UMhoops.com, but I'll take hoops coverage where I can get it.
|1 day 22 hours ago||I don't get||
"Fisher is running a nice, clean program down there." I get that his players have been twice arrested for non-violent (petty?) crimes but isn't this a leap? Fisher might be a dirty coach, but you can't possibly expect him to be responsible for the actions for all 85 guys at every moment. This kid screwed up and was suspended.
|2 days 1 hour ago||Dave Brandon||
I appreciate you. You are much better than this blog perceives you as, even if you're not perfect as an AD.
|5 days 4 hours ago||Mine||
1. MSU - conference game against little bro, who's owned us lately. Need to shift perception back to "normal"
|1 week 2 days ago||MSU||
Seems like they're in the bridesmaid phase of building a program. UMHoops had it with near misses on Lubick, every Plumlee and Prather before landing our first big fish in McGary (not counting the late risers here). They've been turning the heads of a lot of top recruits. Another good season and who knows? Needless to say, we need to have a positive year on the field.
|1 week 2 days ago||Nik Rocks||
Nobody wanted to do that. Nik was probably cringing on the other side of the phone.
|1 week 5 days ago||Bias||
Granted I'm biased...but I though that Greece thoroughly outplayed Costa Rica with the exception of a slow motion sidewinding goal in in the 60th minute.
Either way -- the team that wins is the team that wins. Deserving it doesn't have anything it do with the outcome. Congrats to the Costa Ricans.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||System||
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The Spurs have a vision and it wins championships. They basically drafted Boris Diaw -- who is a free agent. I would laugh at Anderson to any other team, but he fits what the Spurs want perfectly.
Unfortunate for Glenn. This is a very deep draft and he knew that when he entered. He'll hear his name soon and it's up to him to earn his spot.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Extensions||
Potentially three first rounders. A chance at a fourth draftee. They're going to be talking a lot about Michigan tonight. The extensions for our assistants has been in the works for a couple of weeks. I applaud the tactical decision to release the news tonight. High schoolers will hear something like this:
"OKC takes Mitch McGary at #29. That's the third first rounder from Michigan, and the fifth in the last two years. Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway Jr. being the other two - fresh off successful rookie seasons that placed them on the All-Rookie Team. Tremendous talent development up there at UofM, and they've rewarded their assitant coaches with contract extensions through 2018."
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Weather||
Is the field flooded too? Not literally, but how wet/muddy are we talking?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Hoping for Greece||
Hoping for a Greek victory, but you can't win without scoring a goal soo....
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Basketball||
I'd be very surprised if he didn't pursue a pro career in Europe. Like stu and Zack, his resume is already impressive enough to open doors in the USA. Might as well play while you can (and save up to avoid medical debt).
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Kam||
Re: Kam. I don't think he can be shorter than his measured 6'8". That's measured at Jordan, and the NBA camps. While it might be a tad exagerrated (i.e. was it with shoes? Did they add the basketball player phantom inch?), his listed 6"8 is consistent with the other top prospects and whatever they're listed at. The fact that he looks tiny here is encouraging that DJ and Doyle are legitimately taller than 6'10"
I like it.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||No responsibility||
He's got all day to do whatever he wants. I'm sure he goes to the gym and is social. But all day leaves a lot of extra time for mind melting video games...or a Michigan obsession. It's the age of technology.
|3 weeks 23 hours ago||This season||
Also adds to how important this season is for our coaches. I want Hoke to get two years regardless, but we need >8 wins and a good looking team. Otherwise, job security questions could cause any recruit - especially those who commit to our coaches and "loved" MSU - to get wandering eyes.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||My brother||
My brother is a huge MSU fan. He once got steaming mad because I called MSU "Sparty," even though ESPN does it all the time, and it's the name of their mascot.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Seatbelt Warning?||
I just got thrown across the aisle into the lap of a pretty woman. I was not ready for this at all. This is a rare ocassion where the informative update will tell me a ton of stuff that I don't already know. I've heard his name, but looking forward to learning more about him.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Has to?||
No he doesn't have to at all. But that doesn't mean he doesn't anyway. He'll always be a slimeball.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Morris, Harris, Chatman,||
Morris, Harris, Chatman, Sims, and Horford.
Morris is a pass-first point guard. While he didn't mesh with Harris as a Freshman, he didn't go into his cuccoon yet (sorry). I think he fits with scoring Manny in the backcourt. Chatman is supposedly a do-everything playmaker at the three. I like Sims and his ability to stretch at 4. He played a lot of center so he can bang if needed. Horford is all I need at center. He's a good shot-blocker, a good rebounder, and has an OK back to the basket game. I could slide this entire lineup up a slot if he got into foul trouble and I was forced to play Andrew Dakich. This lineup has tons of size and talent. Maybe not enough shooting, though.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Manny||
Is it fair to call Manny a ball hog? Dude had a triple double once and has solid all around numbers despite playing with mostly scrubs - no offense. Sims was the only real Big Ten player, though Novak and Douglass later proved it.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Hmm||
I didn't consider that. I guess it's possible, but it's the job of a coach or close friend to market a player. He's more than a fan trying to help with M recruiting. He's a rep of the player trying to enhance his options.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||IMO||
In my opinion, you should send the coaches a package. He's a 2017 with buzz so I wouldn't be surprised if they found him sooner than later - can't possibly ID everybody. But I know that coaches often send a highlight package to programs to get their player some eyes.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Harris||
Oh well, can't get them all. Michigan will be fine. As for MSU - did anyone actually expect them to fall off the map? They're gonna continue to get talent. Our best will just have to beat their best.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Darius Morris||
He was a consensus 4 star. Not a Kentucky, UNC, Kansas offer set but he was pursued by some very good programs. Maybe more but he was an early commit. Definitely not lightly recruited and I personally had very high expectations for him. The first "big" recruit Beilein grabbed.
|5 weeks 19 hours ago||Dude you're crazy||
You're way off. How could they call Morris new but steady without any significant PT? He'd be new but promising.
|5 weeks 23 hours ago||Ahrens||
I agree with you that he could be a thorn in our side, but Michigan cannot possibly take them all. I feel comfortable with the guys we're pursuing and I'd rather see MSU pick up an Ahrens than a Brunson (not that they can't have both).
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Scenarios||
Scenario 1: Issac gets his waiver. We have 3-4 top level backs to help us win now. We win 9-10 games, program momentum turns around. Harris or Weber signs on because those guys will be juniors, pro ready tend to leave early, and there's still no '14 running back to play behind an O-Line with a ton of young talent in a Nuss offense that's proven it can feed multiple backs.
Scenario 2: Isaac doesn't get the waiver. Our talent is spread, as you wished. We don't get Harris or Weber, but there's always talent in the next class. Those guys aren't the end of running backs. Bird in hand vs two in the bush.
Scenario 3: It's scenario 2 combined with scenario 1. Talent is distributed, and Harris signs on because he's not scared of a depth chart and this is where he wants to be. He'll save his legs, develop his talent, and blow up as a junior.
Ty Issac is absolutely a good pickup, regardless of the Harris or Weber fallout. We need to win ASAP and only current Michigan players can make that happen.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Greece||
The Greece thing is pretty much accurate. They aren't going to win based on speed, or being more skilled or creative than their opponents. So they're content to play to their strengths - defense, playing smart soccer - hopefully stealing a goal somewhere along the way. It worked for them in 2004 and while they might not be threatening to win a World Cup, they've qualified for two since then...so I'd say they're still doing pretty good by Greek soccer standards.
Yeah, it's boring. But they know who they are.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Regarding 2015||
Reflex is that Issac might deter Harris or Weber. We didn't take a 14 back. And top level guys, especially running backs, shouldn't be intimidated by positional depth. It's going to exist everywhere. Wisconsin has loads, OSU picks up quality backs every year. MSU got a good one last year.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||And?||
That's a lot of what ameteur rapping is. Using a pre-existing beat, and changing your lyrics. I guess they do take credit for the beat, but there are some tweaks from the original John Legend track. They would certainly get sued if they tried to profit though.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Depends||
Miami, sure. People there have other priorities. But cities like OKC, Portland, and San Antonio have awesome fans. Even cities with other stuff going on like Boston and Indy have damn good fans. Beyond that, it's just like college. Fans will show up to watch a winner. You can't possible argue that Indiana or Purdue football has an awesome atmosphere right now.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Billy Donovan||
Not topic worthy because it's basically a conspiracy theory, but Billy Donovan has been contacted by the Cavs. IF (big if) he leaves, perhaps Jon Horford could be re-recruited for his grad year? If we don't pick up Eron, we have his scholarship available. I'm only speculating because it's pretty clear his family's familiarity with Donovan and his offense was a big reason for the push to transfer. If he had to go back to the drawing board in terms of finding a 5th year suitor, I think I could imagine that he might re-consider a Michigan program that is suddenly down to 95% Freshmen.
Long shot, but is it worth gossiping about if Donovan bolts?
EDIT: I read the article and he's pretty adamant that he isn't interested. I am an idiot who likes to imagine scenarios where Michigan can be one big happy family that has a championship roster.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||True||
It's not "good" that's for sure. But it also might not matter at all. We've seen the visit policy allow for visits before, so no need to panic yet.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Valentine||
He's a good player, but a lock for the NBA if he plays to his full ability?!?
Draymond Green was the absolute best case scenario for a 6"6 point forward who isn't very athletic. Valentine has the same skill set, but is half as good right now. Green was a second round draft pick who is carving out a nice niche. So, if Valentine can become harness every last drop of skill and become an All-American and POY candidate, he might have a shot in the late first round.
A nice player. May be All-Big Ten, but I don't see the NBA upside. He'll need to develop into Draymond Green to have a realistic shot.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||This||
I think the talent is on our roster. We've recruited at an A/A- level the last three years. OSU has been A+/A. Only difference is that we spotted them a 4 year head start in talent (at some positions).
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Talent||
Can't agree at running back. If you're taking talent, we have a 5 star and 4 star sophomores, and a 4 star junior in Hayes. I think that would give us at least a wash. Same with the OLine. Our guys are super young and coming off an awful season. But we have just as much talent as OSU up there when it comes to star rankings and physical attributes.
|9 weeks 15 hours ago||He's a punk?||
Based off what? College 7-10 years ago? According to everything I've read, he has indeed matured. Dude legitimately a seasoned veteran at this point. Time flies.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Waiver||
I know they give waivers pretty often these days, sometimes with pretty light arguments. But is there anything to suggest that he'll apply and might receive it?
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Izzo||
Is Izzo really that bad? Take off the rival glasses. Most of his players love playing for him. Drew Neitzel is the only guy who I've heard gripe a little bit about his usage.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Factors||
He's a young, energetic coach who is selling a promise (of revival). That's a draw. Another draw is playing time. They have program tradition (if you're COMPLETELEY IGNORE that thing that happened).
Sparty slappies pointed to these reasons as explanations for our last few recruiting classes. They're plausable explanations. He has a lot to sell right now. These recruits won't see much of the bowl ban, but they are looking at a thin depth chart for a "hot" coach at a football crazy school. There's no reason why WE should panic, but congrats to PSU for capitalizing on it. Only time will tell whether it'll materialize.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||College Sports are changing||
I don't love it. Don't love Rutgers either (I'm ok with Maryland). But college sports are changing for better or worse. Players will be paid at some point. The past is the past, and we need to keep up with the joneses. Better yet, we can be the joneses. That's what Delaney is trying to do to keep the B10 on top. I'll deal with it and keep cheering for Michigan.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I know||
I tried to prevent this type of response by stating that it's both hypothetical, and May. Excuse me for being redundant on a fan site message board, where the motto should be "you've probably discussed this to the point of exhaustion"
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah that's true||
True, but I've read that his role will be combo guard with the hopes that he can grasp and contribute significantly at the 1 so I'm not grasping at straws. I think a 5* would feel OK about having a combo guy, especially a 2* combo guy on the roster ahead of him. There aren't many elite programs with zero competition.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Hypothetical||
It's the offseason, so a hypothetical: Coach Cal to Lakers, Booker gets an out of his scholarship. Does Michigan make a play for him with MAAR and Dawkins in the fold? We have a scholarship open, and no guarantee Hatch plays out his eligibility. Plus the LeVert to pros buzz, and belief that MAAR can become a 1 while Dawkins is more a 3/4. I say yes, I'd welcome Booker's talent in a heartbeat. Shame he isn't 7 feet. Karl Towns is though...would be reconsider Michigan (childhood favorite), even though we weren't among his top 5.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||See!?!||
This is the kool aid I was drinking a few weeks ago.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Next Year||
Yeah, our interior defense and rebounding will be questionable. The good news is that we don't play in the same league as Kentucky, Kansas, or Duke. Frank Kaminsky is a great center, but he's hardly the physical type that could take advantage of our size. In fact, Donnal might be athletic enough to give him a good fight. AJ Hammond, and a few 7' freshmen (Maryland and Purdue) are the only giant bodies who return to our league. OSU has some trees, but they haven't been all that impressive in 6 combined years. State has veteran bulk with Costello, but beyond that it's Schilling and strech-type Kaminsky.
I don't think this changes our outlook for the conference that much. We'll thrive off guard play like we have been, and might even be a little better on the glass with overall better size (1-5), even if our 5 guys are young/smallish. We'll have trouble against the blue chip centers in March, but I don't see any reason why Sweet 16 shouldn't be par for next year. We'll be cool
|11 weeks 1 day ago||You've never been to Ann Arbor||
I can tell you've never been to Ann Arbor or spent much time around current undergrads.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||This is so bizarre||
So bizarre. I feel very bad for Mitch. Admittedly, I've smoked several times without consequence. He smoked once (ok, probably more but the kid was injured. He'd passed most of his others) and gets tested during the NCAA tournament which is a year long ban!?!?! A whole year? It's not a PED. This makes me more upset than the whole paying players argument does.
Best wishes to Mitch McGary. Such a bizarre exit, to end a bizarre career.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I agree||
I agree. And while I see why people don't sent App State, I'm on the other end of the fence. Bring them on. I'll be tuned in and fired up for a season opener with a game that sort of means something.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yes||
I'm with you. The Horror happened, we can't ever erase that. I sure as hell don't want a losing record to App State. I want to beat them 100 times. We are Michigan, we shouldn't be scared to play them. Even if we aren't "ready" this year, we should never lose this game. Bring them on. I am very excited for the game, and I think the team will be too. Could be an especially motivated group in fall camp.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||It's OK||
It's OK, Chad Lindsey will start at center and Glasgow will slide one of the underclassmen out at guard once we dispose of App State.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Re:video||
I'd like to see a video of the white trashiest names out there. I've heard some total gems lately.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah||
OSU fans are going to have so much fun with us for that one and the way this unfolded. Wolverine tears. This actually is a solid blow despite the fact that nothing about our team has changed.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Yup||
Haha I'll admit that's ironic. So I do apologize for that. Poor form. Didn't mean to insult anybody in my effort to prove that some names have a pattern of heritage or religion that are fair to acknowlege, and defend a reasonable post by the Devotee.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||People are hypersensitive||
I can't understand why you were criticized for this comment. MAAR's name combines like 4 very common Muslim names. So yes, it is surprising that he attends Catholic Central because he's probably Muslim. There was nothing xenophobic about what you said ("doesn't matter though"). It was just an observation, and you have nothing to apologize for.
For other posters; calm down.
1. "Bc of his name!?!" - Are you not aware that Muhammad, Ali, Abdur, and Rahkman are very common names for individuals who practice Islam? Where did you grow up? Muhammad Ali = Muslim, Shareef Abdur-Raheem = Muslim. I could keep going...
2. "Bc everyone who goes to Catholic Central goes into priesthood?" - Way to use a wild superlative. That is a weak analogy, and an ad populum fallacy. While a small percentage of CC students go into priesthood, I'm willing to bet that an overwelming proportion are at least Christian. There are Islamic academies too. This isn't discriminatory.
3. "Worst post you've made" - Seemed perfectly reasonable to me. He didn't insult anybody, or make any religious comments.
In conclusion, welcome to the team MAAR. Doesn't matter what his religion is. But it is uncommon for a (presumably) Muslim student to play for Catholic Central and I also agree that it's interesting.
|12 weeks 1 hour ago||No||
The answer is probably no. Being from Ann Arbor isn't a reason to recruit a transfer. He doesn't seem to fit our team, may not be "good enough," and doesn't add much value as a sit one year play one year guy.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Probably not||
If there's interest, it appears we're lower on the list. I'm not holding my breath
|12 weeks 1 day ago||The tall guys||
They talk guys. No but seriously really only Obi because apparently Huff doesn't even want to play a lot of 4.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I get it||
I totally understand why people are skeptical of Max. And if you read my other responses, I'm not trying to say he'll emerge as an All-Big Ten player. But as one final rebuttal because I've been procrastinating all day:
1) Stuck behind Morgan and Horford: Is that really a knock on him or his situation? Morgan, who I've been trying to say is a better version of him with 2 years and much more game experience and Horford, who's also older, and more experience -- also taller, and bouncier which provides a different look than 2 "Morgan" types were. Being third on the depth chart shouldn't be a predictor of success. Cheap examples: Brady was a benchwarmer for a while, Anibal Sanchez is the #3 starter, and Wisconsin bigs do it all the time.
2) Yeah, Max does get lost. But how much of that is Max, and how much of that is Max being thrown into a game that's either A) Already won and a glorified pick-up game, or B) An emergency situation that calls him off the bench stone cold to play with first teamers he barely practices with. I can't answer this question, neither can you. I suppose only the coaches know at this point.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Perimeter Defense||
Another thing to be optimistic about is perimeter defense. Awful last year. It COULD be a strength next year. We lose Nik, and get Irvin and Walton another year older/wiser/conditioned. LeVert has the natural ability. Maybe he puts it all together in year three. Or maybe not, because of offensive burdern. We could pretty much switch every position too.
Another thing is the 1-3-1. Does Beilein use it more next year? Roster seems tailor made. A ton of length. Chatman, Irvin, LeVert interchangable at the top and wings. Walton seems like the ideal baseline guy. Donnal could hold down the middle (or better yet, rebound magnet McGary). Seems like we could really create some turnovers with next years roster.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Yep||
It's an appropriate beverage for summer (no football and basketball). I'd rather look for reasons that Max can be a dark-horse contributor than spend all off-season looking at a McGary-less front court that includes almost exclusively freshmen (Donnal, Doyle, Wilson, Chatman) or guys with slim builds (welp; they're the same guys).
Ultimately we're built for guard play and we'll be fine regardless. But it's nice to have options up front. I like the potential of the guys we have. But there's going to come a time where we get outmuscled, and Max is the only player we have who has girth and muscle. Doyle will, but I've learned not to count on a true freshman big as a sure thing -- especially one without that "Can't Miss" tag.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||College Hoops||
There's plenty of room in college hoops for "guys." Maybe I came off a little too optimistic in my original post, but I want to say that I think Max has a shot at becoming a "guy," and I'd love that. Consistently 5-15 minutes a game. He doesn't have to be Jordan Morgan, but he might become a guy we can count on to give us solid minutes every game (as opposed to emergency Max).
He's got the body to rebound, set good screens, an IQ that suggests he can master defensive positioning, and presumably a better shooter than Morgan (the coaches obviously told him he can shoot threes, even if he hasn't made many). The sample size isn't enough for me to say he's a career scout teamer yet.
So I don't really disagree with you. He won't shoot 70%. But maybe he can hit enough long 2s or 3s to stretch the defense a bit. And he might not have the quickness or athleticism, but in college hoops you can become a pretty good defender with IQ and hustle (pre-charge rule?). At the very least, could be become a Zack Novak at power forward?
Not calling a LeVert-type improvement for him, but I'll "hold" my stock on Max for now. I'd prefer to think he's worth something if Mitch makes the jump.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||No doubt||
I agree. It's for the sake of making a point. But as a society we tend to rate everybody above average. That's statistically impossible. JMo was no Petway with the leap, and his athleticism improved dramatically with hard work in the weight room and by doing cardio. That's a fact. He didn't come to Michigan as the athlete he left as.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe||
Maybe not, but those are assumptions based on sample size.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Opportunity||
What I alluded to is that opportunity brings out the best in players. Horford cited that, and it's usually true. JMo was described as awful during his redshirt year. In three years you haven't seen anything from Max because you haven't seen much of Max. And I'll also challenge you by saying that he hasn't been that bad in his emergency minutes.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Why not||
Max is a nearly a clone of JMo. Opportunity creates players. JMo had tons of experience. Why can't Max be a JMo defensive quarterback, finisher, and box out champ? He's actually been solid on D and on the glass in limited chances. Just needs to stop chucking threes.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Maryland||
A Top 10 recruiting class joining plenty of returning upperclassmen from a above-average ACC team in a weak year by the Big Ten standards. Upperclassmen are a big deal in the age of NBA early entries. Florida this year, Miami last year, Nebraska this year to some extent -- you have 22 year olds on the court, you're gonna have more success than your talent level might suggest.
We'll see. Just my prediction. They have a good mix of young talent and seasoned vets.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||1. Wisconsin2. Maryland3.||
4-6 are closer to the rest than 1-3. I think we win >20 regular season games, are wire to wire #20-30 range, and enter the NCAA tournament as a 5-7 seed.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||The worst||
I don't think it's the worst. It's better than AstroTurf, concrete, and hardwood.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||A few fallacies||
You can make great money in Europe if you're playing for a top team in a top league, and it goes down from there. I have a mutual friend of Drew Neitzel who says he was making "150-250,000". That's great money, but he was pretty high in demand for Europe. Novak was probably much much less, for comparison. Also, I've heard playing in a foreign country gets a little old - foreign language, culture, get a little homesick. Not all teams play in southern France.
|13 weeks 20 hours ago||His quotes||
Not intended exclusively for you, but I think we're nitpicking his comments a little too much. I don't think Horford realized how much the blogosphere would dissect that sentence when he said it. He probably thought it was a neutral truth that answered the question and left the meat to his friend and teammate.
If I am ever interviewed, I'm totally hiring a focus group beforehand. Too much analysis on the word choice of Horford, Hoke, etc.. etc..
|13 weeks 20 hours ago||Read again||
Read my comments (and the article) again. He did say that JMo was successful and Mitch was too. He just said he didn't have the opportunity to build his own confidence because there weren't enough minutes available for HIM in our current landscape. Although he cited fit, he didn't damn it. You can do it, he said he did it when he got extended minutes. It's just an issue of Horford being the type of guy that thrives off PT to "warm up." I have no issue with that, it's usually true for most guys (see JMo 13-14, 12-13 vs. late 11-12, McGary in tourney). My only rebuttal would be that he staggered his own minutes by picking up cheap fouls.
On a different note; feels like we're all forgetting about Max Beifeldt. Sure, he's six foot seven or eight and stocky...but he looks a lot like Jordan Morgan. I don't think that Morgan's trajectory would be much different than Max's if he wasn't thrust into the fire as an underclassman with creative guards.
Max has had his moments as a rebounder and defender. Like Jon is implying, players tend to grow more when their responsibility grow. I wouldn't be surprised to see Max become an effective rotation player, JMo-lite, moving forward. My only complaint of him is that he needs to stop chucking threes.
|13 weeks 21 hours ago||Horford||
I don't know if it's possible to have a better exit than that, from Jon's perspective or Michigan's. He was completely transparent about the reasons he was leaving -- now we all know. He cited the offense, but said that a traditional big could definitely be successful given the opportunity. He said that he was when he had the minutes. He said that the coaches developed his talent, and he's ready to show it where the coaches trust him (I read: where competition for the 1 'true post' spot is a little thinner). He praises the coaches, his teammates, and the university. The coaches look extra classy in the whole ordeal. Horford is following his heart (and unfortunately, his handlers advice for 4 years(!). I admire his patience if that is the truth).
I expected to think it might knick our ability to recruit given his "fit" comments, but honestly I don't believe it will. We'll use one "true" post, and there's room for that -- McGary, Doyle, Zimmerman, Stone, whoever. The other big will always be a "stretch" guy. Hopefully bigger than what we've had in Novak and GRIII, but Donnal and DJ Wilson are the ideal fits there. There's nothing damning about the 4 in this offense.
I guess what I'm saying in many words is that Horford is leaving with extreme grace. Injuries and JMo ultimately put a cap on what he could personally accomplish at UofM (and to some extend fit), but he'll leave with a lot of memories, TEAM success, and a degree. Very happy for Jon Horford and can't wait to still what he can do elsewhere. I can see him landing at Big East or AAC school for sure.
|13 weeks 21 hours ago||I disagree||
I disagree. Although it's unfortunate that his handlers were pushing him one way, they'd been doing it for FOUR years. Him transferring as a post-grad says more about Horford's desire to be a good teammate and get his degree than it does him giving in to external pressure.
And as for McGary; he was probably explicitly asked that question. He answered it without giving any indication of his direction. What's Mitch gonna do? You tell me based on Horford's comments or decision.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Face Value||
He's saying take it at face value. Him tweeting grow blue with Nik means we develop players and our guys have success. It does not mean that Nik is coming back even taller than he was last year.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Way-Too-Early||
Says it in the title. It's way too early. But it's fun to look far far ahead, and it gives the writer something to post this AM.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Awesome||
Very well done, but I feel like Walton and Horford should have a few clips. Just to chronicle all the key guys who were a part of these runs. That's nitpicking though. Awesome video.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Toledo||
Toledo is a whole lot closer to Ann Arbor than it is to, say, Utah
|13 weeks 5 days ago||I can't stand your type||
Why don't you tell me about all the other things you don't care for, without me asking. Cats? Game of Thrones? How I Met Your Mother, maybe?
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Very true||
But will they get to play competitive basketball with their best friends? Not here to start an argument about merits of coming back for college life, but Nik has been on record saying that it's a huge factor in his decision.
|14 weeks 21 hours ago||Baseball||
The perfect summer sport. It's leisurely and outdoors. Fun to spend time with good people at the games, and I also love grilling while the Tigers are on in the background.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah||
Horton was a McD AA, and Harris was Top 40. Chris Hunter and Courtney Sims were each 3/4 star guys in the Top 150 range of a Donnal or Burke.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Agree||
I agree, and said this to my friend before the last possession. I just feel much more comfortable in our offense down 1-2 with the last shot than our defense tied up. The stats support that.
|15 weeks 2 hours ago||For 35 minutes||
For 35 minutes seemed like everything was going eright.
|15 weeks 14 hours ago||Michigan||
Morris did have an offer from Michigan. He and Walton were basically simultaneous, first commit gets it.
Oliver had Michigan interest. But our philosophy isn't to offer guys until their interest is high, and it would be a commutable offer from our end. While he has become a good player, ultimately we got our top choice.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Exactly||
I've had discussions with my siblings on this topic (one is a rabid MSU fan). We agree that if you have a geographical or familial connection, it's completely fair game. If you grew up a fan of the team - even without logic (I was a childhood Penguins fan...no explanation) it's fair game. If you became a fan when they were on top, and stuck with them to thick and thin (i.e remained a Michigan fan despite 3-9, 5-7) it's fair game.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Walmart Wolverines||
Such an overrated and ridiculous concept. The argument doesn't make any sense.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Jalen||
Covers the NCAA (College Gameday) and the NBA (ABC/ESPN). Plus he's deep with ties in the NBA and Detroit. I think he's uniquely qualified to have a pulse on this.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Gary Harris||
I agree in general, but we did recruit Gary Harris as hard as possible - Costello and Valentine were recruits as well.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, right before you assert||
Yeah, right before you assert your claim of universal skepticism. That's like "No disrespect but, (insert insult here)"
We can agree to disagree. Enjoy your evening, Lord Grantham. Go Blue.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, right before you assert||
Yeah, right before you assert your claim of universal skepticism. That's like "No disrespect but, (insert insult here)"
We can agree to disagree. Enjoy your evening, Lord Grantham. Go Blue.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Really?||
You don't think graduating from West Point says something about a man's character? Are you familiar with West Point?
I'm done engaging in this debate. I don't think I have a chance of persuading you.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Innocent until proven guilty||
I'm a little bit shocked at this response. Usually with big time college athletics, there are rumors circulating, smoke, or ultimately straight up fire surrounding the bad eggs.
Coach K graduated from West Point, and has coached Duke for decades without a major violation or any of his players committing an offense that's worth reporting. Sure, maybe there's some cover up somewhere. But the biggest knock on Duke is that he recruits "Uncle Toms." He isn't the lacrosse coach.
I really didn't expect there to be so much backlash about saying Coack K is a good dude who runs a clean program. There hasn't been an ounce of evidence to suggest otherwise, and this is America. Innocent until proven guilty. Plus the man graduated from West Point, doesn't that earn him some benefit of the doubt?
|15 weeks 4 days ago||OK||
So nobody is a quality person unless you know them first hand? You're quite the skeptic. I won't try to pursuade you. Watch out for everybody, man.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Clean too||
As much hate as Duke gets for home court advantage and media bias, there is no coach who does it as clean as Coach K does. Does anyone disagree that he's a great coach and a quality human? Easily the best in the game when you consider coaching and off the court stuff.
Our guy isn't too far behind.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Recruits||
I like to keep an eye on guys that Michigan recruited, but filled up before they could choose (i.e. Pangos, Monte Morris) or picked another school in a tight decision over Michigan (i.e. Prather, Lubick).
There have been very few players who have picked Michigan, that I could say might be "unhappy" with their decision. Smotrycz obviously, Brundidge just didn't pan out. On the other hand; Morris, Burke, THJ, Stauskas, GRIII, LeVert (plus McGary+Walton+Irvin as incompletes) must be thrilled with their decisions. Development, big stage, winning.
There's a class of players that have done very well at their school: Pangos (Zags), Larry Nance (Wyoming), Prather (Florida), Older two Plumlees (Duke), Devin Oliver (Dayton), Gary Harris. All having success, so good for them. Ray McCallum did well for Dad. It worked out for both parties.
There's also a class of players that I think might have done it differently. Obviously speculating here, but hear me out. Nate Lubick and youngest Plumlee had/are having 'fine careers,' Yogi is probably OK where he's at, but it seems like Indiana is volitile and you can't argue he's had near as much success as our Sophomore class. Trey Ziegler, Dom Pointer, Della Valle...I think they all might wish they had taken a mulligan.
I don't know what my point is. I'd bet that Booker, Kennard, and Bates-Diop each have reasonable-heavy success at their schools. But deep down we all know that Michigan does it better, and they would have reached greater heights under Beilein, Jordan, Bacari, and Meyer.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Not just you||
I've always thought it too. Apparently Ferrell did a video interview with fans (Redditt maybe) where he 'confessed' that he as actually Chad Smith. Smith came out with a rebuttal. Both pretty good sports about it, funny stuff.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||No||
The average joe isn't bound to everything he spews on Twitter or elsewhere. Why should Roddy? He was just engaging with the guy.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Northwestern||
I guess he isn't too good at geography. Isn't Northwestern Chicago's Big Ten school?
|15 weeks 5 days ago||That's not true||
He's produced 3 players with first round-ish NBA grades after one year (Trey, Mitch, Glenn). More after year two and beyond.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Kam Chapman||
Is literally 25 on most recruiting boards. Might have been higher but he lost his junior year to transfer wackiness. He's an elite talent. Tall, long, and skilled. Like LeVert with a few more inches.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Tennessee||
They deserve to be here. Resume was an 11 seed, a few impressive wins sprinkled in there. They're playing great basketball right now and deserve to be where they are.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||OT||
Don't think it's worth starting a new thread, but does anyone know where I can watch the full episode of BTN Journey with JMo's Senior Day stuff? Could only find a 2:35 clip on YouTube.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Do it||
Stop exploring and plant the damn flag. This would be huge. Verstile depth and experience at a minimum. Quality starter in the best case. Plus the young man could get a decent graduate education.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Hey||
Hey is Wisconsin setting up a sweet 16 with three big ten teams? Maybe we can beat Wiscy or MSU again.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Europe||
Some leagues in Europe aren't as competitive as NCAA, and his game might translate better. That said, I always laughed when he was described as an X-Factor for OSU. Dude was garbage. When he's your X-Factor, your team is garbage. That's like calling Max our X-Factor. He can give us quality minutes when needed every now and then.
As a farewell, I'd like to quote Amadeo "WOW! Michigan doesn't have room for me now and I didn't get to visit?! That's really fair!" This was right after Hello: Spike. Things work out.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
Last good player they had didn't obey the weight room protocol. Chubby DeJaun Blair could play. If he had Ben Wallace biceps he would have been the Pitt-norm
|16 weeks 1 day ago||App State||
I am thrilled that we scheduled App State. For one, you cannot let them have the better of us in the record books. Revenge is necessary, Two, we are. Michigan. We are not scared to play App State. Any day, any year. Third, in this particular year with the background story (coming off a poor season, opening against our most embarrassing loss) I don't think there is a way we don't focus entirely on the task and have a productive few weeks leading up to the game. Then smash them. I think it'll ultimately be good for our development, momentum, and help enforce the 'one game at a time' mantra that you absolutely need to have.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||3 games in 3 day||
3 games in 3 days. Third meeting against a conference rival, that's fired up to avenge the losses, and prove their 'back.' They're a damn good team. We didn't play well. Get some rest, watch some tape, and let's get ready to make a run
|17 weeks 8 hours ago||Painter||
Painter essentially threw his team under the bus recently, in a pretty passive aggressive way. He was all "It's my fault. I haven't recruited guys who have heart, are good at basketball, and have brains. So it's MY fault. Don't blame my team for being terrible. They can't help it."
|17 weeks 15 hours ago||All the time||
Michigan has our fair share of fair weathered "bad" fans, pessimisstic fans, misinformed fans, and generally arrogant/annoying fans. I hate that they exist, but as long as they're ultimately cheering for Michigan...
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah that was the goal||
Gonna have to get over it fella. The goal was to make things better, not to deliberately screw the seniors. They made a quick change.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||No worries||
I'm not sensitive. No worries. I completely agree with you that plays can end up costing themselves money (in the short term, maybe long run (hi Durrell Summers). All I'm saying is that there is a definite appeal to coming back and playing in college, right or wrong, no matter the cost. Players do it and will continue to factor quality of college life into their decision
|17 weeks 3 days ago||True||
Im only commenting on WHY they made the decision. Lewan may have too, not that he cost himself much money.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||It's different though||
You're right, and I agree. But the happiness that awaits in the NBA is different. Much different. I can't count how many interviews I've read where a pro says something along the lines of "it's a job, and that's it." Everyone is playing for themselves and a contact. Team bonding isn't as emphasized. Age gaps are 20-38, so a young guy could feel a little bit lonely on a veteran team.
Meanwhile, college offers the type of happiness that makes us all wish we were back there. Goofing off with your friends, going to Ricks after a big win, campus life. People your age everywhere. The college life appeal can't be discounted because it has to be the biggest reason why GRIII and Mitch came back this year, and the same reason why dozens do every year (Lewan, etc...)
The dream is one thing. College happiness is another. You just can't have your cake and eat it too.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Good for them||
I wasn't necessary in favor or against GA. But good for the AD to hear the complaints, see the problems, and make a change. No guarantee that this will work any better but you have to try to find out.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||Big Ten||
|17 weeks 4 days ago||Big Ten||
We're in good shape regardless of our Sophomore decisions (I think all 3 leave, fwiw). Your point is made. But there's no sense in predicting wins right now. The Big Ten is very very good. OSU, Indiana, and Maryland figure to have extremely talented teams in the next few years. Wisco is always good. MSU talent takes a step back on paper, but let's not kid ourselves. They'll be very good. Iowa should be in mix. Nebraska, Illinois, and Purdue have either good coaching, solid talent, or both. NW has some reason for optimism. Minny loses a lot in the short term, but I'll buy on Pitino.
My point is, the conference is great. No sense in sitting here and salivating over our roster because they'll have to earn every win, every year. But we are in good shape to be a contender with our best and worst case scenarios.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||It's all good||
Even 25% Mitch is an asset. In a one and done scenario, you want as many bullets as possible. He won't play 30 minutes a game. He won't be in midseason form. Hell, he might barely play. He said himself he's a team guy and JMo and Horford have won the job and earned their role.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Walton and LeVert||
Everyone is important, and I do agree about the 1-3-1. But I'll go with the Freshmen. You're only as good as your weakest link, which is especially true when your team only plays 8 "links." Walton has won a few games, some with scoring and some with incredible rebounding for his position. Irvin has won a game and impacted others with his microwave shootings, and he's been able to get up to speed on defense which puts him on the court in last minute O-D sub scenarios. The pups are playing their roles perfectly and it's been a constant improvement game by game.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Normally||
Normally I'd advocate for Miles. But JB has done the same thing twice. The season with Morris and Novak aneurysm. And our first BTT. He gets passed up for Thad winning a lot of games with great players. Both coaches did a phenomenal job. Give it to our guy, mostly because he's way overdue.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Watching||
I'm watching and the announcer said specifically that they (his coaches) would like to see better body language. I might be taking a leap, but that suggests to me that his defense still suffers. Also it's a sign that he 1) hasn't improved in that regard, because that was one of my complaints when he was here and 2) It had less to do with him being upset at UofM and having a rift with the coaches, and is more just his nature. No disrespect to Evan. Some people definitely just have a more pessimisstic body language or approach to the game/life.
There's guys like THJ who are labile (hot & cold; but show emotion), guys like Glenn who are steady (never get too up or down), and guys who always have a little bit of a sad look (Smotczyz, and remember Paul Davis?)
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Maize Rage||
When I was in the Maize Rage they practically paid us to show up. Free pizza before every game, sweatshirts and MDen incentives for attendance. And we made the tourney (09-10). Awesome season.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Illinois||
They beat a few of the conference big boys this season. Lost a few bad games, and had a losing streak (Ok State did too) but they had an OK season if you consider the whole. Maybe a bubble longshot? Ah, probably not. They'd have to win it all...and then obviously
|17 weeks 6 days ago||He's a good player||
He's a good player. Did he perform better than Nik? No. But he probably deserves to be on the list. Haven't looked at the other 13 though.
|17 weeks 6 days ago||You're probably right||
But 16-3 with this team (wo McGary uncertainty) and you have to assume we would have won the first 6 with or without him. Apparently the committee does factor injuries when things get too close to call otherwise.
|18 weeks 22 hours ago||Why not||
I had a ton of friends who wanted to be at Michigan, but ended up loving State. There have been plenty of players who feel the same why.
|18 weeks 23 hours ago||Dave Merritt||
David Merritt. Graham Brown, if we had made the tourney.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Jalen||
For every negative thing he says about the program (like that) he says like 9 positive. Follow him on Twitter. I'll bet many more 16-18 year olds see him congratulating our guys or shouting out Trey/THJ, and notice that more than an emotional quote (he tends to say these things every once in a while when the old wound is opened).
|18 weeks 2 days ago||That's just not true||
Nationally, that's just not true.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah||
Yeah, anyone with a DUI who even THINKS about doing something charitable should be flayed!!!
|18 weeks 2 days ago||I was under 5||
I was under 5. Love them. Read the book a dozen times. Upset, yeah. But I blame Martin and questionable judgment by Webber. It's not clear when he took the money, and it's not clear under what circumstance. Ultimately we've seen it happen a half dozen times since to varying degrees, with a dirty secret/assumption that it happened a lot back then and still does now. So I blame the NCAA more. We got caught, and we were martyred by the NCAA and UofM.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||You're sensitive||
Backhanded stab? More just a love for his coach. Rose has a high opinion of Beilein, he's said it before.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||I agree||
Wrote some of the same below. I agree. He's done everything at Michigan except for win a National Championship and Big Ten Tournament Championship. There's still time for that...
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Role Model||
Mayne not invididually, but he might have the most accomplished resume of any Michigan Basketball player. He has 98 career wins (and counting...vs. 39 losses). 6-2 vs. MSU. 2 B10 Championships. 1 Final Four/Runner-Up. 1 B10 All-Defensive Team (and counting...maybe even a DPOY). Plus whatever we accomplish this postseason. Is there a player that has a more well-rounded resume?
I'm a huge fan, and I'll continue to heap praise on our Senior: JMo is tough and hard-working. He improves every year (and game it seems like). He's productive. He's a leader, who knows his role and plays it well. And he's a scholar and a flat out winner. I'm jealous of kids these days. That's the type of player/person you want to emulate. To put things in perspective, my UMHoops role model was Avery Queen (and Blanchard...but I was a point guard).
|18 weeks 3 days ago||I hate change||
I hate change. I have no interest in getting rid of extra points. I hate that idea.
|18 weeks 3 days ago||Nik||
Nik also had a tendency to play with Trey Burke and THJ. He played his role, and it was usually to camp in the corners for opportunities.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||Demographic||
Geez, depressing introduction. But some things are facts. A couple of my thoughts:
In conclusion, yeah the demographics are changing. Yeah, both programs have faltered. But there's no good reason that Michigan can't be a contender in every sport.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah||
There's no easy pick. I agree with you, but I'll wait until the bracket is released to see how the paths to the title set up.
|18 weeks 5 days ago||More of the same||
I think this is a great conference. But I don't think that we have a team that can win a National Championship. Last year, we had Michigan, IU, MSU, and OSU with rosters and athletes I could see winning it all. This year, our best bets are Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa - which I believe are each a step down from last years foursome. I could see 4 teams in the Sweet 16, and 3 in the Elite 8 again. But I wouldn't bet on any in the Final Four.
For us personally, I love what we've accomplished (JMo and Horford have delivered everything we could have asked) but I can't help but think we might be a Mitch McGary away from a National Championship team.
Wisconsin has beat some really strong teams, so they can obviously do it. But beating Florida in December isn't as impressive. It's my opinion that, at that point, Wisconsin is closer to their ceiling while a 'Florida' is only stratching their potential. I just think they'll lack the athletes at some point.
MSU. Injuries, man. Yeah, I know it's a running joke but it's also true. They have the roster to do it, but injuries and chemistry...and maybe just not being as good as advertised make me pause. I think it's possible the Fed investigation waking some skeletons in the closets of potentially key players might have an effect on psyche outside of injuries.
Iowa. Can't win a close game. Can't play defense. I do think they have a shot to get hot though. Lots of bodies. Some athletic, some big, some veteran.
Personally I'l be pick between Florida and Duke to win the NC. And to answer your question directly, yeah I think the conference is great. But you're ultimately measured by how far your teams go in the tournament.
|19 weeks 23 hours ago||Exchange rate||
20 nickels equals a dollar. So does 40 minor violations mean anything, other than "thanks for telling us."
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Glenn||
Coach B always says that Nik steps up, Caris steps up, and GRIII is capable. Just depends on what the defense gives them. Well, I was texting a friend throughout the game that game felt like GRIIIs game. He was agressive on O and the glass. I thought that Nik forced the issue a little bit. Lots of drives hunting for the foul and some poor decisions passing and shooting. As great as he's been, I wish he would have felt that Glenn was the hot hand a little sooner.
On the other hand, way to be patient GRIII. And thanks to Spike and JMo for huge contributions.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||Fans||
We fans are a fickle group, especially in the age of information and technology. It helps to have a little perspective like this. I posted some similarities between the two regimes a while back. Hoke could still go either way, but he did make a few changes to his staff that sort of mirror what Beilein did. Let's hope Nuss and the Defensive Shuffle give us the same results.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah||
That's what I'm getting at. 3 seed or 2 seed; you're probably going to be close to home in the first weekend. Eventually you'll need to play a good team. Does it really matter at that point? The specific matchup means more.
I think 1>> 2 ~ 3 > 4 >>> etc.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||IF||
If we win out (IF, not getting ahead of myself) does it guarantee a 2-3 seed? In that case, I absolutely wouldn't care if we're bounced from the BTT by a Nebraska, Minnesota or above. Love a regular season crown, but I don't really care about the BTT unless there are major seeding implications or a bid on the line.
|19 weeks 4 days ago||Izzo||
For all his flaws, I seriously doubt he said fuck you. Guy isn't a saint, and probably gets more pub for being classy than his intense nature deserves. But the guy is a good coach, and has run a clean program for years. He is classier than most, and has been on record saying he respects Beilein. He takes fan heckling in stride too.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||So you're saying...||
So you're saying that Dave Brandon didn't descend on a raven and sic his cops on you? And the Athletic Department actually handled it in an appropriate way, considering the chaos?
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Nobody Was Arrested||
Nobody was arrested. In my opinion, the officer was probably instructed not to allow the stduents to line up early. He probably asked them to move. They probably didn't. He probably said something like "come on guys, don't make me arrest you," thereby acting on his own.
I don't know anything about this situation. This is my speculation. I just doubt that they would told the cops to arrest students. Since nobody was arrested, why are we arguing about this?
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Never||
There has never been a rivalry basketball game, where the losing team doesn't have a thing or two to complain about. Even the winning team things they got jobbed and won in spite of the refs most of the time.
Refs usually do a good job. Unless there is a blatant error, it's all part of the game.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||3rd Round||
In the 3rd round he wouldn't be a steal. That's implying he's a first or second round talent. He's not. He might have a nice career, but he'd be a steal in 5-7. Nobody will take a chance on him any higher than that.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||As a realist||
As a realist, I think MSU is a better team. On a neutral court maybe they win by 6. They're not completely healthy, so I'll bump it down to 4. I think home court in college hoops is the biggest advantage in any major sport - pro or college - so I think that's worth 4 points at least.
I think it's tied going into the last minute. Who do I have more faith in getting tough buckets at the buzzer? Sadly, I think Adrien Payne is the best one-on-one player on the court today. If MSU has the ball with a chance to win, I think he attacks and wins with a bucket or free throws.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Hey!||
Hey, guy. Don't complain about home cooking the night before our biggest home game of the season. I'll take a Michigan
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
Bad weight is fat, or flab. Good weight is muscle. Basically just an eye test. Anybody can gain weight. Just stop exercising and load up on food. You need to eat the right foods (or supplements) and lift to gain the good stuff.
Derrick Green showed up at 240. Coaches said that wasn't necesarily a bad thing (Initially. And I think his frame can support 240), but there's big difference between that extra 10 in muscle vs. fat. Jordan Morgan is another example of a guy who stripped "bad weight" and exchanged for "good"
|19 weeks 6 days ago||I guess||
That's true, and I guess that could happen. But what are the odds that somebody getting ready for the Senior Bowl doesn't exercise? If he took PEDs and got caught, more likely is that he stopped taking them and continued to exercise.
Yeah, I realize he was suspended. But I don't think he was banned from every gym in East Lansing. I'm sure he didn't walk in the Senior Bowl practices like me after a vacation.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||16 pounds||
I was under the impression that the 265 he weighed at the Senior Bowl was "bad weight." Therefore, I wouldn't connect the weight loss to PEDs. That's just me though. I have no idea what's going on.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||He's got a shot||
I agree that he isn't an early entry candidate, but he has a shot to play in the NBA. Poor man's Kelly Olynyk; Robert Horry like stretch four off the bench.
If I know one thing about the NBA (and I don't know many things), it's that they will take role players are usually guys who have one elite skill. 6'11, mistmatch Euro power forward isn't a bad way to spend a roster spot.
I wouldn't bet on him being a first round pick, but I could see him going second round and sticking around a little while.
|20 weeks 1 day ago||BUT||
BUT ITS DANGEROUS!!!!!!!
|20 weeks 1 day ago||Jalen Rose||
Rose is very opinionated. Thankfully that's his job. He does a great job of being a representative for the University of Michigan, as a player-alum and a fan. I don't love everything he says, but I have no problem with him giving his opinions (especially when prompted).
|20 weeks 4 days ago||GoT||
Without listing any spoilers, the second half of the book is going to make heads explode. TV-only fans are in for a treat.
|21 weeks 14 hours ago||Yeah||
The conscious comment is a compliment in basketball, but I don't see the leap calling him nutty. He lost his shoe and tried to get it off the court in a fast break. He just threw it a little too far. It's not like he took his shoe off and whipped it at a Crazie.
|21 weeks 15 hours ago||Red Flags||
Appears to lack a conscience. Somewhat nutty and unpredictable.
When you take some of these comments out of context, he seems like a guy you'd want to avoid. Come back to school, Nik!
|21 weeks 17 hours ago||Webber||
I'm a fan of the Fab Five (don't want to get into that argument here though), but I have a hard time putting Webber on the mountain. If anyone from the unit, it has to be Rose or Howard because of the circumstances. I might just go with Rudy T instead. Maybe Gary Grant.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah!||
I live in West Michigan, and I call your "East Coast Snowstorm" every single damn day this year. No sympathy. Drive to work and be production.
|21 weeks 1 day ago||Gruden||
the Cavs hiring a football coach would definitely pique my interest.
|21 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah||
I had actually read that he was a very good student, before the incident.
|21 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah||
Pseudo-covering the Big Ten. Her responsibilities seemed to grow gradually, but I think she was still employed to be Michigan-centric. I assume that covering the Pac-12 means that she will cover the Pac-12. Either way, she thought enough of the position to take it...so I think it's safe to say it's a step forward.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah it is||
Can't ignore that they have been injured. And they don't play at Wisconsin again. I just don't see any losable games except Michigan, Iowa, and @OSU. I think they're better than Iowa at home, and better than OSU on the road. I know its tough to sustain streaks and they could have a letdown. Just calling each game as I see the outcome individually.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||True||
You're right, and I see the appeal of an 18 year old phenom. I just think 23 vs 20, assuming both has had 2+ years in a weight program seem negigible to me (in basketball). As far as potential, it has merit if you're talking about the #1 pick. Mitch might have blown his shot at being a lottery pick, but I can see him being a 15-30 pick next year at 23 years old. Like I wrote above in my opinion about Nik, you're not going to find many guys with superstar potential at that point in the draft anyway.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Easy Pal||
Easy pal, I was as respectful as I could possibly be. Nobody is pissing on a dream here. Anyone with a dream is going to have doubters, and I'm sure Austin knows the odds he is facing. To borrow from the quote you used, it would be a "miracle" if he were to play at Michigan. As an objective party I can state my opinion on his career prospects. That is my opinion. And I doubt my opinion will stop Austin from working towards his goal of a full return.
TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR: I am personally rooting for him. Everyone at Michigan is. I hope he's in the gym right now working on his comeback. His recovery and optimism already qualify as miracles in my book, so I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of if he does end up taking a medical redshirt. I would be proud to call him an employee, colleague, teammate, or hopefully, "Dr. Hatch"
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Big Ten NCAA Teams||
|21 weeks 3 days ago||On Paper||
On paper, MSU will have their least talented team in years (assuming Harris' exit also). Dawson is an All Big Ten 2nd team player, and Costello, Valentine, Trice, Kaminsky, Schilling, and Ellis make up an NCAA level team. But they've struck out recruiting lately and looking at falling a step behind Michigan, OSU, IU, and Wisconsin on paper.
It's only paper though.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Austin Hatch||
God bless the kid, but he's 2-2 from 3PT in High School this season. I would love to him recover completely and compete at the NCAA level, but it's just not there. He's been the most realistic about the expectations he has for himself (based on some quotes I've read), but I would be shocked if he played any more than five symbolic minutes. This is not meant to be douchey, but it is my honest opinion as a objective observer. I will bet that he receives a medical redshirt and contributes to the MBB program in big ways beyond the active roster. My only question is whether they can apply the medical redshirt immediately, or if he'll count next year.
To reiterate: We're all rooting for Austin and he deserves a scholarship (athletic or medical), so whatever it takes to have him at Michigan I am fine with. I just don't believe his body will allow him to play at Michigan.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Nik||
I think Nik has shown enough to be a late-first round pick regardless of how the rest of the season goes. He's not going to be drafted to be a superstar or an A+ athlete. At 25-30, you can't do much better than a sniper with some ball skills and passing ability unless you take a boom/bust guy. He's a safe pick to be a decent impact guy. That said, he has plenty he could do to improve his stock. More time in the weight room, improving defensive form and effort might help him. He's in a similar position to Burke as a a freshman right now. Trey obviously managed to raise his stock. I think Nik might have a draft ceiling no matter what he does next season.
Glenn is a ton of ability and could go first round for a team taking a flier on potential (i.e. he'd be boom/bust). Contrary to Nik, he could definitely raise his stock to Top 15 with another year.
Mitch is in the same boat as Glenn, but for obviously different reasons. I've never really understood why being 23 is a bad thing as a rookie. Your first contact is 3-4 years, and he still has plenty of basketball left. Taking a 20 year old over a 23 year old based on age is taking a weird gamble that they'll both still be productive at like 34 and 37 years old. I seriously doubt he's a) on your roster anymore, and b) someone you count on for 30 minutes every night...unless you're a terrible GM.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Big Ten NCAA Teams||
Looking at the standings, it's pretty easy to see who's "in," but what about the bubble teams?
Minnesota should be on the right side of the bubble at a current 16-8 with quality wins over Wisco, OSU, and Florida State. #10 seed?
Indiana and Nebraska are on the bubble. Both probably the wrong side for now. IU has quality wins over Wisconsin and Michigan, with opportunities coming against OSU, Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan. They have a lot of talent, and talent gets better as the season goes on. I'd bet they take one or two of the games I described. Ultimately I think they sneak in, but hopefully it isn't a season sweep of Michigan that does it.
Nebraska is only 12-10, but they have a QW over OSU. Their schedule softens up. I think they're favorites in 5/8 remaining games. Let's assume they win those. Must win @IU, and steal one @MSU or vs. Wisconsin. I think they can do just that, and finish the season with a home win at Wisconsin to get to 19-11. I'm rooting for the Huskers.
Northwestern has a fighters chance, but fails the eye fest miserably. They'll probably finish where they always are. Watching the selection show with no REAL chance.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Beat MSU||
I don't see Michigan State losing again, unless it's against us. @OSU and vs. Iowa are possibilities. But they're the favorite in both games. OSU can't score, and Iowa hasn't shown they can win close games -- especially not away.
I think we need to be 16-2 or 15-3 (& sweep of MSU) to win outright. If we lose, MSU might drop a game to set up a tie but I wouldn't count on it. They are very very good, and their schedule sets up nicely. So in my estimation, I think it's outright or bust.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||Ugly Win?||
What was ugly about that? That's called a road win. A good, well earned, road win. Nothing ugly about it.
Yeah, sure GRIII is in a rut. But only compared to expectations. He's still making contributions at a level of a B/B+ Big Ten Player. Meanwhile, Irvin is catching up to Walton in terms of freshmen production. Stauskas handled the defense attention better today -- OSU has the best perimiter defenders in the conference in my opinion. Won't comment on the gameplans compared to IU or Iowa, but the individuals are the best. Their offense though...
Great win, and was the second hardest remaining game on paper. Beat a difficult Wisco team at home, and spend a week preparing for the conference's most talented team in MSU.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Warm Weather EEs||
Is Mason Cole going to transfer?
|22 weeks 16 hours ago||I see his point||
I see his point. We love the swagger that players like Norfleet play with. But I don't see how we're recruiting any differently than we ever have. What is Foote's threshold on 'ghetto'? Does Peppers count? Gardner? Wilson?
|22 weeks 5 days ago||College Hoops||
We took IU's best shot. At home, with Yogi calling out his squad after the last loss. They don't lack talent and Yogi played out of his mind. Sure, we could have gave a better effort and had better execution, but I'm not necessarily disappointed with the game. Caris, Walton, and Irvin played very hard. Stauskas was neutralized (lingering ankle issues?). GRIII didn't play his best game, but he did try to ramp up his effort in the "fourth quarter."
We just got beat today. Hats off to Yogi Ferrell. 8-1 in the Big Ten. On to the next one.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Amadeo Della Valle||
Hit a few big shots for OSU...then air balled a three, and (essentially) air balled a layup. He was being recruited for Spike's spot a few years ago. I remember when Spike committed a few days prior to his scheduled visit, he tweeted something to the effect of "WOW! Michigan just stopped recruiting me. That's really fair!"
Not trying to rag on a foreign 17-year old, but I thought it was hilarious. Two years later I'm pleased with the way it's turning out. He's a goofy player (beyond the mop top), while Spike makes everything look easy.
|23 weeks 23 hours ago||This||
Manny didn't have the luxury for elite teammates, but that's my best comparison as well.
|23 weeks 1 day ago||Time to stop nitpicking||
Brendan Gibbons missed a football game, and appears to have done something terrible that wasn't punished until much later.
But it's time to move on from the conspiracy theories and allegations of cover up. At worst, Brady Hoke didn't choose his words well. What a surprise, the guy says "physicallness."
Deepest sympathies to the young woman, and good riddance to Brendan Gibbons. But let's move on from the Hoke and Brandon hate.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||You're right||
You're definitely right. We're no better than anybody else. But we're also no worse. I've read about these rumors way too often at other schools -- including current OSU football, and current MSU basketball.
We're not leaders in this regard, but this type of...whatever you want to call it...definitely isn't unique to U of M.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||Gibbons||
Like most everybody else, I wish it would have happened sooner. Just odd timing. I'm sure there is an explaination for the long delay and I'd love Brad Anlauf, Dave Brandon and the outgoing president to comment on it.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Mitch||
I don't think he needs to be "very effective." If his goals are to win a championship, we'll just need him to provide post depth and go crazy for a few minutes at a time as a rebounder, foul eater, and post defender. Whatever else he can provide is gravy.
Of course, this might not be something he's interested in if his NBA draft stock is a factor. I just think he's a team guy and would love to chance to help his team win. Even if it was as an out of shape 5-10 minutes, it might be enough to push us over the top. Who knows.
We never did find out how he hurt himself. A lingerie injury is way cooler than Dawson's boo-boo. Mitch is the man!
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Opportunity||
Sticking in the NBA is all about the right opportunity. So many guys are within the same skill range. Tim seems to have found a good fit, and he's a mature rookie, so I think he'll stick. Manny had a chance to stick after playing a fair amount with the Cavs. The freak frozen sock incident robbed him of training camp, and he was cut. This could be his opportunity to stick as a "guy." He's certainly good enough. Like I said, unless you're one of the 10%...the rest of the league is mostly just guys. Why not Manny?
|23 weeks 5 days ago||Opportunity||
Edit: Double post.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||No info||
I don't have any info, but I will provide my opinion.
They've been cryptic about this injury from the beginning. Who knew he was injured until right before the season? Does anyone know how? And when he was out, we didn't know how close he was to returning until he showed up on the court. Then his flares were another suprise. We don't know what the surgery was, and we don't know the time table.
The lack of clarity throughout the process makes me cautiously optimistic that he could return in March. No, I'm not saying he'll return as a 30 mpg guy. But my opinion is there's a 5-10% chance he gets healthy enough to dress and play 5-15 mpg around tournament time, and maybe more. He's very unlikely to stay 5 years, so a potential medical redshirt isn't something we need to protect. On the other hand, if he's healthy enough to give us spot duty -- safely -- then why not? We're not far from being a National Championship contender, and this may be his last opportunity to play with Nik and Glenn.
Like I said, 5-10% is my prediction. He's walking without noticable pain, limb, or device. I think they'll be very cautious with his career, but he may be much closer than we know.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Big Win||
Walton growing up. Stauskas proves he can do it (patiently) against an NBA level defender. LeVert makes key plays. GRIII pitches in despite not playing his best game. Irvin hasn't even scratched his potential. I think we're legitmiate Big Ten Championship contenders (obviously), but I do think we lack NCAA Championship potential without Mitch. Who cares, I'll enjoy the ride. Love this team.
On a separate note, I'll take a win in East Lansing under any circumstance, but I have to say it...MSU is gonna look very dangerous with Payne healthy. Dawson will help too, but I think he's negligible. Still a four team race for the crown (M, MSU, Iowa, Wisco).
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks||
Thanks for your time at Michigan. Hope you earned that degree (or are in a position to do so elsewhere), and find success at football and whatever comes after.
Yeah, I know they won't be reading this.
|24 weeks 14 hours ago||Axe||
He has an axe to grind. Two big axes, which are in storage in the Bentley Library. Not sure this is right move to get his way though. Not a great way to endear yourself to the new president, in my opinion.
|24 weeks 14 hours ago||Come on||
I love Jalen, but I really thought we had closed the book on this one.
|24 weeks 1 day ago||Nik||
He will be drafted 20-30 and have a 10+ year NBA career. Guy is offensively potent in his prime, and will age well as a A+ shooter.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||Let's keep it classy||
I'm pretty sure we have, or have had, a few guys in the team with incarcerated fathers. Jabrill Peppers comes to mind. I agree with. BiSB. This young man threw away his golden ticket. It's inexcusable, but there's likely some social aspect to this. Who knows what the kid is going through.
Inexcusable, and he'll pay handsomely for it. But I'll reserve judgment on Jayru and his family. This is just sad to me. I hope he matures and starts making better decisions.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||Fran||
Whenever I see Fran McCaffrey I have the urge to do my taxes. I would be very fiscally responsible if I were an Iowa fan.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||You know what?||
You know what, I agree. Great points. I think he might have taken it a little too far - seeking out Crabtree immediately after the play, choke sign, interview rant with Erin, and another shortly afterward. But overall cocky and fired up would be more accurate descriptions. Thug? He didn't swear, or say anything inappropriate. He just yelled. I've never made the game winning play to make the Super Bowl, but I think I can understand where he's coming from.
Not much different than the Bart Scott "CANT WAIT" in my opinion. Funny moment, and Richard probably let his emotions get the best of him...but not a thug...nowhere near it.
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Positively.||
If I'm a recruit, I look at a few things.
As of lately, I think we offer the top of the line in all of these categories. We've always been able to boast 6 & 7. Michigan is always on National TV, even when we were bad. Big Ten is Grade A hoops. Ann Arbor is a cream of the crop college environment, with a diploma that means someting (if that's what you're into).
Our facilities are now top end. We have a coach who's proven he can develop no-names in to Pros, 3 stars into NBA picks and NCAA award winners, and 5 stars into projected lottery picks. We're percieved as a program who's expected to win now, which is funny because it's only been 3 years of sustained success. But it's a fact now. Welcome to stability. I think the bonus is style of play. There are a lot of teams that play pretty basketball, but Michigan is right up there with anyone. If I'm a scorer, shooter, or a point guard this is the place for me.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Two Headed Monster||
I think they're perfect as a two headed monster. Horford's numbers may be great, and I do agree he passes the eye test. But I also think that Morgan plays better when he's given more minutes. To me, Morgan is a "you get what you see" guy. He's steady and can produce some nice games. Horford is a boom or bust guy. He's been far less bust lately, and his boom probably skews the numbers in his favor.
My bottom line is that we're fortunate to have two centers with different skill sets. I love how Beilein manages it. They each play -- and he rides the hot hand as long until he cools down, fatigue, or fouls. I don't think the statistics matter. They're both good options, and they'll earn their minutes on a game-by-game basis.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Heiko||
Did he ever say goodbye? Maybe I missed it, but I feel like he just disappeared.
|26 weeks 13 hours ago||I agree||
I agree on the early exits and NBA alumni point. I do think that early exits will slow down a bit after this sophomore class though. GRIII, Nik, and McGary are all liable to leave after this season, but each could return for their junior year as well. After their class is through, I don't anticipate any of our current recruits being another "two and out" player. Irvin, Chapman, and Walton each seem NBA talents, but after 3-4 years instead. I can live with a steady stream of 3 year players. I can live with the occasional 2 year guy as well, because it means he/we probably excelled.
Bottom line: NBA exits are a good thing. I know JB's formula is to recruit guys who are committed to four years. He's just enough of a players coach to acknowledge when the opportunity is too good to pass up. The perfect balance.