puck drops Saturday, so something good might happen on a Saturday.
|1 hour 56 min ago||Given a choice||
Given a choice of only, I would rather fire Dave Brandon than Brady Hoke. The bumbling PR is on Dave Brandon. The ticket prices and corporate feel is on Brandon. We use that angst to pile on to Brady Hoke's downward trajectory. Hoke hasn't been great and deserves the hot seat, but Brandon would satisfy me. I still don't see an attractive mid-season option to firing Hoke. He fumbled this Morris situation, but I think is a bit of an overreaction on Hoke's role/motive. Brandon on the other hand, needs to go.
Still praying for that mid-season turnaround. I cheer for Michigan, I don't get my jollies on engaging in sepculation of contraversy. And if Hoke pulls off a miracle 9-3, he should stay. If we continue playing like a pee-wee team...then he shoud be fired.
But Fire Brandon!
|2 hours 30 min ago||That part||
I get that he went back into the game. But we all saw Bellomy trying to find a helmet that fit for like 25 seconds. Putting him into the game to hand the ball off was the least upsetting part of the whole thing for me. But I guess out of context he "went back in the game" and could have gotten decapitated again on a late hit?
|2 hours 42 min ago||YES||
This thing was misplayed. But the outrage about it is overboard. It's a volcano of Michigan angst in the perfect storm of Brandon's corporate spirit and Hoke's inability to put a winning team on the field. I'm not defending anyone's actions in this particular instance, but attacking Hoke's character and some people going as far to suggest he had a death wish (seriously?!?) for his player is way too far.
We, as Michigan fans and community, never accepted RichRod then pushed him out after 3 seasons of F -> D -> C football. Now we're doing the same to Hoke after B+ -> B- -> C -> C football. WE basically fired Borges, and I believe we would be better RIGHT NOW with him. We hate Brandon, so we hate everything and anything the athletic department says or does.
Fire Brandon, OK. Fire Hoke, OK. But can we fire ourselves while we're at it? I'm the biggest Michigan fan around and our pretentiousness and arrogance is becoming way too much for me to handle.
|2 days 22 hours ago||Status Quo||
It's status quo for a player or coach to say "we can't pay attention to what's being said outside of our locker room" and stuff like that. But why? If it's me, I might start collecting the haters and use it to fuel my fire. If Desmond Howard says this about me I'm gonna play with a chip on my shoulder all season long. That's quite the indictment. Wake up squad! Don't ignore the haters, prove them wrong instead.
|4 days 12 hours ago||Brandon||
I wouldn't mind if Brandon was fired. But I have a feeling that he's aware of the backlash and that season ticket holders and students will get a pretty sweet deal next year, and possibly beyond.
|6 days 14 hours ago||Keep Brady Hoke!||
Not actually, the way we're playing. But he will finish the season here. And I am cheering for a miraculous turnaround and a 9-3 finish so we CAN keep him and feel good about it. He's a great man. Maybe not a great coach, but he has 8 games left to prove otherwise.
Go Blue, Beat Minnesota.
|1 week 19 hours ago||Brady is his meal ticket?||
The guy left the Ravens. He is his own meal ticket. Brady is just his current boss.
|1 week 1 day ago||Minnesota||
Death of an optimist indeed. I've been designing scenarios where we can redeem ourselves and Hoke will look like the guy for the job. Brandon hasn't been that bad, I say, it's the losing that rubs everyone. After this one...I'm on life support. I won't go as far to say the season is lost, because you still have to play the games. It sure as hell doesn't look likely, but sports are crazy. He's going to ride the hot seat all season. I just don't think you can fire him in the middle of the season. The only reasonable option is to keep him around and make phone calls to John, Jim, and Les with the hope to pounce on one after their respective seasons. It's a longshot, but Hok will still get the opportunity to win the rest of the games on our schedule.
Beating Minnesota would be a nice start.
|1 week 2 days ago||Yes||
2008. This is rock bottom, but hey...anything can happen
|1 week 2 days ago||Can't edit||
I'm mobile. Can't edit. But what I'm saying is coaching hasn't been an issue at all. Need more accurate throws, a little better pass pro. I guess you could say coaching for the lack of spread punt.
|1 week 2 days ago||Pessimism||
For as much pessimism as I'm reading. Who here thought we were gonna blow them out?
|1 week 2 days ago||Onion so||
Onions. This type of stuff is amazing. I love it when athletes embrace their status and use it to do good. Can't stand celebrities who "never asked to be a role model." Fantastic stuff, JJ.
|1 week 3 days ago||I get your point||
I see your point. And sucks for the OP. But I dislike everything about the tone of your post. I don't think being lazy is this team's problem, and as shitty as this schedule looked before the season....Utah is a pretty compelling game, PSU will be very fun, and Maryland should be interesting. Short on big names and awesome opponents, but hey, Michigan is gonna be IN all these games and has a chance to win them all.
|1 week 5 days ago||Isaac||
I have a friend who works closely with the team. Says that Issac's talent is obvious, but he spent 3 months out of a college weight program so he's behind our current guys in terms of conditioning and looks a bit "doughy."
|2 weeks 23 hours ago||Delay of game||
Watching on TV I remember thinking it was way too short. The coaches obviously thought they didn't reset the clock. Any input from people in the stadium? Was the clock operator partially at fault?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Right||
You're right. And that game is almost more forgivable, although no prepared backup QB isn't good either.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hoke||
Won a Sugar Bowl, then went 8-5 the following year with losses against Bama (Nat Champ), ND (Nat runner-up), and OSU (undefeated). Other losses @Iowa with a questionable no flag at the buzzer and heartbreaker bowl loss to South Carolina. Last year was really bad, but his entire tenure hasn't been as bad as our memories tell us.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Doing you part huh?||
Paying for tickets, but then not showing up so that our home field advantage is less impressive. And recruits question our fan support.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I disagree||
Braden has massive potential. He's an all-big ten body. Maybe he's underwhelming right now, but if we can get him up to speed it will bode well for this season and the future.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||The line||
You're dancing on the wrong side of the "No Politics" line.
|3 weeks 39 min ago||Yeah||
Yeah that is what it's come to. I can't expect us to win every game anymore because it hasn't happened. In fact, we've looked awful at times. I'm looking for real progress, not a miracle season.
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||Tongue in cheek||
Meant as a joke. I agree man.
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||Some people||
Some people just like to watch the world burn.
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||I agree||
The way we lost was straight out of 2013. I hated it. And I'm definitely not counting on smooth sailing for the next 4-5 games. I'm just saying, as an optimist, that's what it would take for me to accept the possibility that MAYBE Saturday was just a series of bad breaks that snowballed into a disaster.
|3 weeks 1 hour ago||Haha||
Too many numbers? Good, I've distracted you from the pain of defeat.
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||Compliments||
I get the feeling that adding a guy like Duncan Robinson is part of the larger plan for our team. We have role players with an elite skill, now he can tell these guys that we need a few cornerstone guys. Players who can command the ball and be the primary guys. They'll have Duncan on the wing to snipe and spread the floor, and Doyle and Teske to grab boards and command the paint on defense.
I think trying to build the best team possible, not just the best collection of players. The pieces have to fit. Now it's time to strike on 2-3 alpha dogs to compliment our recent commits.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I get it||
I totally get it. Last week was awful and much of the same stuff as 2013. But I literally cannot wait until Saturday for another game to prove our mettle. Huge concerns with coaching right now, so I'm not upset with your post. Just the volume of them make me want to gouge my eyes out. And I want to believe we will rise up to the challenge and improve. Go Blue.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Confidence||
Our schedule shapes up with great opportunities to get some confidence back. Obviously an awful game yesterday and we aren't anywhere near looking like a team fans, players, or coaches can be proud of. But the schedule sets up nicely with a cupcakey-game to work out kinks and get our confidence back, a home game against a team that can beat us, a home game against a decent Big Ten team, and a road game against a middling Big Ten team before our next primetime game AT HOME against a solid team with little depth.
Each week is a step up in difficulty. I would be there next week if I could, because I'm not ready to lose hope (or Hoke) yet. I really want to give these guys a chance to prove their mettle, and showing up to support them if I had a ticket would be a good way to do it. We wait all winter and summer for football season. Way too early to write us off, especially when we have a chance to build some momentum with the soft part of our schedule.
*disclaimer: yesterday was very bad. I'm not trying to blow rainbows. I just don't see the sense in "Fire XYZ" posts after 2 games. We still get to play @Rutgers, PSU, @MSU, @OSU, and a Bowl Game to change the tune of big game/road woes*
|3 weeks 2 days ago||No Choice||
I know our players are working hard. I want to believe our coaches can get the job done, because I can't stomach another coaching change and all the turnover it comes with. I really like Hoke and co. But this performance was abysmal, and straight out of 2013. It's really difficult for me to say anything positive about our coaches after that game.
However, I don't really see a choice for the short term. We can talk about coaches in November. But right now, the only option is to watch our game at Miami next week. As bad as it was, you can't abandon a season because of one awful game. The schedule sets up for a winning streak and incremental improvement might have us ready for MSU. Give ourselves a chance to improve and atone. It's the only option right now. Let's try to enjoy the season. Go Blue.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Funny||
It's funny that we both said basically the same thing, except with a much different spin. Glass half full vs. Half empty.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||AD||
I agree. For all the grief that the board gives the AD, they're just obeying the concept of supply and demand. Tickets aren't selling? Lower prices and propose deals. When demand is high, of course ticket prices rise. They didn't write the book on it.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||True||
True, but that's relative. A reasonable flight doesn't compare if you can drive <5 hours and fit four people in your car.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Press Conferences||
I think most of us get it why he's bland in press conferences. Press conferences are a requirement for him. Something he has to do because it's part of the job to work with the media and promote the program. But it's not what drives him to coach or what makes him love his job. Maybe he could be a little more lively in his conferences, but I guarantee that we'll stop nitpicking him if we string together 10 win seasons with a few conference championships and playoff appearances.
I really like the man and am rooting for him to succeed here. Thanks for sharing this snippet.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Press Conferences||
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Honeymoon||
At least we won the Sugar Bowl before our honeymoon with Hoke ended.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Who Cares||
Despite your slippery slope argument, there are no advertisements in the Big House. If somebody wants to sponsor our tweets - go for it. That's free money for a stupid thing like twitter. I would barely notice.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Home||
I like the idea of a bar, but I usually prefer the comfort of my home (or a friends) because most fans frustrate me with their lack of knowledge or pessimism. I can't stand hearing how stupid X-player is or how our head coach can suck...something because a play didn't work. Quarterbacks don't TRY to throw interceptions, and defenders don't TRY to screw up. That's my PSA.
|5 weeks 22 hours ago||Ha||
Yup, hiding behind an internet disguise has that effect. I'm flattered that you responded to this in the midst of a few "go fuck yourself" comments though.
In a few more words, let me explain.
I think this is a bit petty because you're not watching because of Dave Brandon. He will never know. This game was scheduled because of revenge, not money (if it is money, someone needs to explain to me how paying App State to play us is a money grab. Do we get paid when they play "Horror" highlights?). You may disagree with the decision to schedule it, and that's fine. But many of us love the revenge factor. I want to win this game because I do believe The Horror was the beginning of the downslide. Symbolically, I want to crush App State and set the universe right.
I think it's emotional because "The Horror" was 7 years ago. We shouldn't be so affected by articles about it or watching highlights. It happened, it sucked. The six years following it weren't so great either. Time to move on and cheer for Michigan. I prefer to think of it as "The Horror: Revenge," but if you can't escape thoughts of "The Horror II" then just watch it as Michigan Football Game 1: Road to the Playoff. Also, we look bad if we blow them out? Considering the circumstances I think the sports world will forgive us if we demoralize them. I think we keep it classy in the 55 point range, but I would gladly accept a 90-0 win and any backlash that comes with it.
I hope you reconsider your stance and enjoy a game in what MIGHT BE a special Michigan football season. We're still undefeated in 2014.
|5 weeks 23 hours ago||OP||
You are petty and overly emotional.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Great post||
Food for thought.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I agree||
Let's win a few times before we keep climbing back on to our high horse. Michigan arrogance is fine with me, when we back it up. When we aren't, it's very frustrating.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Fantasy||
12 team - 0.5 ppr
QB - Peyton Manning
RB - Reggie Bush
RB - LeVeon Bell
WR - Larry Fitzgerald
WR - Torrey Smith
TE- Charles Clay or Delanie Walker
Flex - Julian Edelman
K - Justin Tucker
D/ST - Patriots
Bench - Darren Sproles, Khiry Robinson, Hakeem Nicks, Tavon Austin, Chris Ivory, the other TE who isn't starting....and Denard Robinson.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Kind of||
It sucks for that guy. But it is pretty funny how he uses "Big Ten" as a slur, and ironic that he calls Notre Dame arrogant considering his tone towards everyone else.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I think||
I think the level of anger about the game by some of us/you rivals whatever go drove them to schedule it.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Why?||
Why? What effect did those two weeks have on our program? York was at home, suspended indefinitely.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Appropriate||
I hope he recovers from this mistake, but this move was absolutely necessary.
On the other hand, the program did the right thing but taking time to make this decision. I hope this satisfies everyone whining about why he wasn't kicked off immediately.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Delusional||
The 11W guy trumpets OSU's discipline. Lol. Glasgow probably would have been dismissed because he's not good enough to join the circle of trust, thus maintaining an average discipline that doesn't raise too many eyebrows. I hate OSU
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Really?||
Wolverine Devotee has never been to a game? You need to get yourself to the App State game.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Ok||
Competition was weak but you were able to conclude that Irvin can be a high lottery pick from that sample haha. Love the optimism.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||My opinion||
I love the story and am rooting for him etc. Etc. But I still anticipate that Austin gets a medical redshirt. I think he'll see symbolic game time this season, and then be medically redshirted after the season.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Cry Babies||
I want to crush App State. This is just another reason for you haters to criticize DB, and you all must have repress every bad thing that has ever happened to you. We lost to App State. It was horrible. Can't erase that, but we can stop them out to build momentum for our season. Schedule them every year until that game becomes just an unfortunate part of history. I'm excited. App state will have our squads full focus.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Dave Brandon||
I don't love everything Dave has done. I think the commercialism of a night game (UTLIII??? It made sense for the first one, but I can read a schedule...it's a night game) is extremely annoying for example. But I think he's done a pretty good job overall. I just can't wait until we can stop overanalyzing every decision the athletic department makes.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Disagree||
Because a Football player allegedly dodged consequences of a rape last year, the University should make hasty decisions in all future legal encounters involving athletes?
If anything, the Gibbons debacle should teach us that we need to take every case seriously and gather as much information as possible before making decisions one way or another.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Justice||
The video is damning for sure. But he's not actively practicing. I don't see anything wrong with keeping him indefinitely suspended and letting the justice system take its course. He'll probably be dismissed sooner than later.
You don't get a special prize for making huge decisions based on security footage. Just wait, they'll do the right thing.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Video||
Haven't watched the video and I like to form my own opinions. Not saying you or anyone else is wrong. I just think an individual should be innocent until proven guilty, and suspending him immediately after the incident was the appropriate decision.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Wait||
Haven't watched the video yet because I'm at work, but there is no need to rush to judgment. He's appropriately suspended. Wait until the trial to decide what happened, and if witnesses decide he was provoked without cause. Im not condoning violence, but if a tough guy decides to say racist stuff 2 inches from your face and basically ask for a fight...I can't really feel sorry for him if he gets hit.
|7 weeks 15 hours ago||BLUE||
I very much prefer wearing blue to wearing maize. Maybe I'm alone, but I think it would be much easier to execute a blue out.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Maize Field||
Never ever a maize field.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Who cares||
1) players and recruits like them
|7 weeks 3 days ago||These look cool||
One game, this look very cool
|7 weeks 4 days ago||People were questioning?||
Nobody liked to see Montgomery leave, but Manning seemed like the best possible fit even before he was hired.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Flawed||
This map doesn't agree with common sense. I think Michigan, Illinois, California, and New York are home to the highest concentration of Michigan fans and alumni. I get that State fans, Big Ten fans, and general college football fans who are haters might gang up on us in those respective states. But Ohio is most hated in Ohio? Something is weird about this. Only thing I can conclude is that we're on a lot of people's radar.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Wins||
It's really hard to win games in August, so how about we enjoy the moments we do have and wait to boil about winning/losing when there are actual results. Last season is long over.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Defense||
With exception of the DBs I think it's less important who starts on defense. Tons of depth at LB, and some talent mixed with experience on the DL. I think we have the horses to be really, really good on this side.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Me too||
I'm on board with your optimism. But I think Bosch starts over Dawson. He has the experience and pedigree. Some growing pains last year, but it wasn't all his fault.
|8 weeks 17 hours ago||Love this||
I love sports talk radio. I don't even watch sportscenter anymore, I prefer "watching" Mike & Mike
- Mike & Mike
- Dan Patrick
- SVP (but Russillo is kind of a tool)
- Colin Cowherd
- Sean Belegian -- I don't think he's an anything slappy. He's really grown on me because he really does just tell it how it is. Gives M Hoops credit, gives MSU football credit. Hard on our football team, because....I don't like his producer/sidekick much though
- "Huge" - I like the fact that he sticks up for Michigan, but he seems super dense. A real blockhead. When he's NOT sticking up for Michigan, he's using juvenile logic to bash us (I say "us," sue me). His show is full of promotions and elementary analysis.
- Jim Rome - I would rather sit in silence. He is so bad. The "clones" thing gets on my nerves, but not as much as his radio DJ thing where he replays a stupid quote or audio clip like 30 times. He gets on his high horse way too much.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Big Ten||
One of the talking points after the Big Ten Media Days was how MSU was being "disrespected" despite being reigning champs and Rose Bowl winners. I know it was mostly manufactured just to have something to talk about, but I found it it hilarious. Picked second in the division with 1/3 of the first place votes. #8 in the country. It's not disrespectful to be picked behind a team most believe can also compete for a National Title.
As for Michigan, I'm fine with #32. Though I do think we'll finish much better. Pre-season buzz is guilty of juding teams based too much off last season. I've said it before. I think our defense will be A-/A based on depth, experience, talent, and coaching. I think our offense will be B at worst. There's enough talent, and a new/simpler scheme. At minimum I think they'll be much less erratic.
Can't wait for the season.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Come on||
I'm sorry this man was mocked and I'm sympathetic towards his condition. But the apologies should suffice. Just an opportunity to make some easy money and of course this dude wants to try to take advantage.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||That's not the point||
Regardless of your argument, which is up for debate, the FACT is that we are the winningest program in college football history.
I don't think that anyone will argue that we've been the best program in the last 10 years. And I don't know if anyone is all that impressed by being the all-time winningest program in the context of today. But as far as tradition and history and truth are concerned -- we are still the winningest program in college football history.
I don't quite get the Ripken analogy by the way. A political statement trumpeting the program's history is nowhere near the same as Ripken playing every day at ~37. It's not like we have Rick Leach out there at QB.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||No he doesn't||
You're right about the percentage thing. That's a shame. But as long as we have the most wins in the history of college football we will be the "winningest program in college football." Notre Dame can claim it too I guess, but more specifically they have the "highest winning percentage in college football."
Give him a break. It's still the truth.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Heritage||
Stuart Schweigert was an All-Big Ten player at Purdue in the early 2000s and played in the pros for several years. He went to Heritage.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Position Depth||
Expectations are mild for this team, and that's probably good considering the last few years. Linebacker is defintely the deepest. But we really have solid depth and talent at every position this season. Lots of guys in their third or fourth year in the program too.
I'm looking forward to the main page article where they compare last year to this years team in terms of what positions project to be better, the same, or worse. Honestly, LT and RT (maybe #2 WR too) are the only positions I can see being worse. And I'll be cautiously optimistic that lots of competition, and a few guys who are in their third year in the program* can emerge to be above-average players by the meat of the schedule.
*I think it's been proven in a diary or something, but I think there's something about the third year in the program. Physically and mentally, it's when I expect that the light bulb might turn on for a lot of guys - with or without game experience.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this season.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||MGoBlog||
Chances that an 18-year old rabid Michigan fan is a member of this online community? >90%
You deserved that day, and hopefully we'll all enjoy a championship season sooner than later. We all know that was your REAL wish. Best wishes to you in the future, Stephen. Go Blue.
|10 weeks 12 min ago||Hype||
"Can I borrow your pen?"
Now I'm excited!
|10 weeks 14 hours ago||Guy||
I like where your heart is at, but this couldn't be more incorrect.
|10 weeks 20 hours ago||Cake||
"Have your cake and eat it too." It's cake...what are you supposed to do. If I ever meet somebody who wants to keep their cake and NOT eat it, I'm going to distance myself immediately.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Nope||
Nope, now there's a new problem. THJ averaged like 24 points a game. That's only second team? I guess he didn't rebound, pass, or defend but come on!
|10 weeks 1 day ago||GR Jr.||
Cue the OT vs. Not OT rabble.
Good fot him. Those are good stats.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||OK||
Not that I care at all about getting negged, but I am seriously looking for an explanation of where the negative perception of Coach K comes from. I won't argue it. Just wondering if I'm missing something.
Can somebody please explain. Something more than "seems like a douche," please.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Wow||
This all looks and sounds fantastic. I live in Grand Rapids, and sometimes it takes massive personal investment to turn a city around (Ilitch-Gilbert = DeVos-VanAndel?). I think this will make a huge difference with the city: perception and hip-factor will definitely improve. But I do agree that public schools are the limiting reagent if Detroit wants to sustain growth and attract families. Having said that, this seems a great step in the right direction and hopefully the infrastructure (schools and what not) will follow as the city continues to "fix" itself.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||We are in 1st place||
We are in first place. There has been no reason to panic yet. Even if the bullpen obviously needs help, we are exactly where we want to be. Therefore he was afforded the luxury of patience to see if Nathan could self correct. It's time to make a move, but the fact he hasn't yet is smart.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Coach K||
I had a discussion/argument with a few posters months ago about Coach K and I just don't get where this opinion comes from. I don't want to start another internet argument, but what is your opinion based off of? Serious question. Am I missing something?
I genuinely believe his is class act. Sure, he comes across as prickly or arrogant in some press conferences. But these coaches are hyper-competitive. It's much more difficult to keep your cool 100% of the time than it is to act like a douche now and then. And in their defense, the media probably asks them redundant/stupid question (this particular paragraph directed toward the poster above).
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Alumni||
I can't answer your question with hard evidence (and am too lazy to look it up), but I'm pretty sure it is a fact. Tons of undergrads + medical school, dental school, other grad schools. And I know it's a goal of UofM to enroll grad students from other institutions (thus producing a "new" alumnus and not just a milion multiple degree Wolverines). Like I said, I didn't look up the stats but I do think the sheer volume of UofM undergrads and our ability to attract grad studenst from elsewhere makes it very realistic.
Mostly I just wanted to remind everyone of the Kris Frost quote (former LB recruit) - "They have the largest living alumni base in the world. Well except for the University of Phoenix, but that doesn't really count."
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Mission Statement||
I'm cool with it not being a part of our mission statement, but it sure as hell better be a priority. Part of what keeps the largest living alumni base in the world engaged is our athletics. I want them to be competitive, and I want them to compete on the largest scale (Power 5 if it comes to that).
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Burke||
Burke also has a newborn boy. But unlike most 21 year olds, he seems mature enough to handle it.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Gravity||
Gravity didn't seem to apply to her. One part of me says that weight 100 lbs is an advantage, but the lack of wingspan is obviously a serious disadvantage. Not all athletes are created equal. It was very impressive, and I was shocked at how easy she made it seem.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Canada||
He's not representing Canada. They didn't give him a Canadian flag jersey and instruct him to tell wholesome jokes about hockey. He's representing himself, and he is a rapper. PS I think he was overall pretty funny. Hosting these things is a a very tough gig. Name the last host of anything who crushed it.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Lol||
I love that movie. And fear that it's going to come true.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah||
This actually doesn't seem as sketchy as half the stuff that happens in college sports.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Great||
He'll have plenty of experience when he returns to UofM to be the "LaVall Jordan" of HC LaVall Jordan's staff, along with associate head coach Bacari Alexander.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I love sports radio||
I love sports radio. SVP, Dan Patrick, Mike&Mike, Cowerd other ESPN random guys I've heard are generally great. But I cannot stand Jim Rome. I don't know if it's him calling his audience "clones," or his totally Radio DJish approach of playing the same audio clip like 30x in two minutes without any other conent, but I would rather sit in silence.
|11 weeks 16 hours ago||Nice||
Like everyone else, I'll be a lot older then. But this is another nice addition to the future schedules. Brain says this is the "first game that comes close to NDs appeal." Maybe that's true, but ND's appeal is 10/10. There aren't many 10/10 programs out there and white tape and other commitments probably made them difficult to schedule less than a decade ahead. I think we've done a pretty good job scheduling.
I don't see anything wrong with Oregon State or Colorado, BYU or Central Florida in 2015 and 16. But I do admit they aren't necessarily needle movers. I'll give the AD some benefit knowing that it probably is somewhat difficult to attract big names on short notice (or one reason or another).
Besides this season (mostly the Big Ten's fault. HOW are MSU and OSU both away in the same year? Plus no Wisconsin or Nebraska) the scheduling commitments look fine moving forward.
BTW, we play Utah - a recent perrenial 10+ win team before a move TO the Pac-12 this year. For as bad as our home schedule is, I think Utah, Penn State, and Maryland are three games I'm very interested in.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Haha||
Haha it's a leap! But you can't see Glenn Robinson III being a throw-in in a potential Kevin Love for Andrew Wiggins deal? That trade will probably have like 7 pieces (players or picks), and a second round salary with first round potential might be interesting for the Cavs. The TWolves roster at 2/3 might get crowded if they end up with LaVine, Shabazz, Wiggins, and whoever else.
I do agree though. The only correct answer here is Mitch McGary, because he's the only guy currently playing for a contender.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||GRIII||
Love to Cavs for Wiggins. Plus others. One of those others is GRIII who gets a chance to make the Cavs roster and provide bench athleticism while developing into a rotation contributor on a championship team.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Good point||
Good point. That's what I do. I bubble often and that's my big game treatment.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||I've been there||
Let him find out. It's on DVR and he'll catch the trends in the game where he'll eventually start fast forwarding and maybe even abandon if it doesn't change. Or he'll check his phone when it's a lot to a little for the outcome and decide to watch the comeback knowing the outcome, or continue the misery. On the other hand, he could also just love watching the sport.
Either way - let him find out the way he planned. He knows losing is a possibility. I've been there. It's insult to injury when you find out your team got blown out when you didn't want to know the outcome in the first place.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Is he?||
Not trying to be a dick. Actually wondering why you think he's a great asset to the beat. This Q&A comes across as answers from a guy whose job is to follow the team. There's nothing wrong with that. But does Quinn have basketball credentials or depth in knowledge? I'm much more impressed by anything over at UMhoops.com, but I'll take hoops coverage where I can get it.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||I don't get||
"Fisher is running a nice, clean program down there." I get that his players have been twice arrested for non-violent (petty?) crimes but isn't this a leap? Fisher might be a dirty coach, but you can't possibly expect him to be responsible for the actions for all 85 guys at every moment. This kid screwed up and was suspended.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Dave Brandon||
I appreciate you. You are much better than this blog perceives you as, even if you're not perfect as an AD.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Mine||
1. MSU - conference game against little bro, who's owned us lately. Need to shift perception back to "normal"
|12 weeks 5 days ago||MSU||
Seems like they're in the bridesmaid phase of building a program. UMHoops had it with near misses on Lubick, every Plumlee and Prather before landing our first big fish in McGary (not counting the late risers here). They've been turning the heads of a lot of top recruits. Another good season and who knows? Needless to say, we need to have a positive year on the field.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Nik Rocks||
Nobody wanted to do that. Nik was probably cringing on the other side of the phone.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Bias||
Granted I'm biased...but I though that Greece thoroughly outplayed Costa Rica with the exception of a slow motion sidewinding goal in in the 60th minute.
Either way -- the team that wins is the team that wins. Deserving it doesn't have anything it do with the outcome. Congrats to the Costa Ricans.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||System||
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The Spurs have a vision and it wins championships. They basically drafted Boris Diaw -- who is a free agent. I would laugh at Anderson to any other team, but he fits what the Spurs want perfectly.
Unfortunate for Glenn. This is a very deep draft and he knew that when he entered. He'll hear his name soon and it's up to him to earn his spot.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Extensions||
Potentially three first rounders. A chance at a fourth draftee. They're going to be talking a lot about Michigan tonight. The extensions for our assistants has been in the works for a couple of weeks. I applaud the tactical decision to release the news tonight. High schoolers will hear something like this:
"OKC takes Mitch McGary at #29. That's the third first rounder from Michigan, and the fifth in the last two years. Trey Burke and Tim Hardaway Jr. being the other two - fresh off successful rookie seasons that placed them on the All-Rookie Team. Tremendous talent development up there at UofM, and they've rewarded their assitant coaches with contract extensions through 2018."
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Weather||
Is the field flooded too? Not literally, but how wet/muddy are we talking?
|14 weeks 3 hours ago||Hoping for Greece||
Hoping for a Greek victory, but you can't win without scoring a goal soo....
|14 weeks 14 hours ago||Basketball||
I'd be very surprised if he didn't pursue a pro career in Europe. Like stu and Zack, his resume is already impressive enough to open doors in the USA. Might as well play while you can (and save up to avoid medical debt).
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Kam||
Re: Kam. I don't think he can be shorter than his measured 6'8". That's measured at Jordan, and the NBA camps. While it might be a tad exagerrated (i.e. was it with shoes? Did they add the basketball player phantom inch?), his listed 6"8 is consistent with the other top prospects and whatever they're listed at. The fact that he looks tiny here is encouraging that DJ and Doyle are legitimately taller than 6'10"
I like it.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||No responsibility||
He's got all day to do whatever he wants. I'm sure he goes to the gym and is social. But all day leaves a lot of extra time for mind melting video games...or a Michigan obsession. It's the age of technology.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||This season||
Also adds to how important this season is for our coaches. I want Hoke to get two years regardless, but we need >8 wins and a good looking team. Otherwise, job security questions could cause any recruit - especially those who commit to our coaches and "loved" MSU - to get wandering eyes.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||My brother||
My brother is a huge MSU fan. He once got steaming mad because I called MSU "Sparty," even though ESPN does it all the time, and it's the name of their mascot.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Seatbelt Warning?||
I just got thrown across the aisle into the lap of a pretty woman. I was not ready for this at all. This is a rare ocassion where the informative update will tell me a ton of stuff that I don't already know. I've heard his name, but looking forward to learning more about him.
|15 weeks 1 hour ago||Has to?||
No he doesn't have to at all. But that doesn't mean he doesn't anyway. He'll always be a slimeball.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Morris, Harris, Chatman,||
Morris, Harris, Chatman, Sims, and Horford.
Morris is a pass-first point guard. While he didn't mesh with Harris as a Freshman, he didn't go into his cuccoon yet (sorry). I think he fits with scoring Manny in the backcourt. Chatman is supposedly a do-everything playmaker at the three. I like Sims and his ability to stretch at 4. He played a lot of center so he can bang if needed. Horford is all I need at center. He's a good shot-blocker, a good rebounder, and has an OK back to the basket game. I could slide this entire lineup up a slot if he got into foul trouble and I was forced to play Andrew Dakich. This lineup has tons of size and talent. Maybe not enough shooting, though.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Manny||
Is it fair to call Manny a ball hog? Dude had a triple double once and has solid all around numbers despite playing with mostly scrubs - no offense. Sims was the only real Big Ten player, though Novak and Douglass later proved it.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Hmm||
I didn't consider that. I guess it's possible, but it's the job of a coach or close friend to market a player. He's more than a fan trying to help with M recruiting. He's a rep of the player trying to enhance his options.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||IMO||
In my opinion, you should send the coaches a package. He's a 2017 with buzz so I wouldn't be surprised if they found him sooner than later - can't possibly ID everybody. But I know that coaches often send a highlight package to programs to get their player some eyes.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Harris||
Oh well, can't get them all. Michigan will be fine. As for MSU - did anyone actually expect them to fall off the map? They're gonna continue to get talent. Our best will just have to beat their best.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Darius Morris||
He was a consensus 4 star. Not a Kentucky, UNC, Kansas offer set but he was pursued by some very good programs. Maybe more but he was an early commit. Definitely not lightly recruited and I personally had very high expectations for him. The first "big" recruit Beilein grabbed.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Dude you're crazy||
You're way off. How could they call Morris new but steady without any significant PT? He'd be new but promising.
|16 weeks 3 days ago||Ahrens||
I agree with you that he could be a thorn in our side, but Michigan cannot possibly take them all. I feel comfortable with the guys we're pursuing and I'd rather see MSU pick up an Ahrens than a Brunson (not that they can't have both).
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Scenarios||
Scenario 1: Issac gets his waiver. We have 3-4 top level backs to help us win now. We win 9-10 games, program momentum turns around. Harris or Weber signs on because those guys will be juniors, pro ready tend to leave early, and there's still no '14 running back to play behind an O-Line with a ton of young talent in a Nuss offense that's proven it can feed multiple backs.
Scenario 2: Isaac doesn't get the waiver. Our talent is spread, as you wished. We don't get Harris or Weber, but there's always talent in the next class. Those guys aren't the end of running backs. Bird in hand vs two in the bush.
Scenario 3: It's scenario 2 combined with scenario 1. Talent is distributed, and Harris signs on because he's not scared of a depth chart and this is where he wants to be. He'll save his legs, develop his talent, and blow up as a junior.
Ty Issac is absolutely a good pickup, regardless of the Harris or Weber fallout. We need to win ASAP and only current Michigan players can make that happen.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Greece||
The Greece thing is pretty much accurate. They aren't going to win based on speed, or being more skilled or creative than their opponents. So they're content to play to their strengths - defense, playing smart soccer - hopefully stealing a goal somewhere along the way. It worked for them in 2004 and while they might not be threatening to win a World Cup, they've qualified for two since then...so I'd say they're still doing pretty good by Greek soccer standards.
Yeah, it's boring. But they know who they are.
|16 weeks 5 days ago||Regarding 2015||
Reflex is that Issac might deter Harris or Weber. We didn't take a 14 back. And top level guys, especially running backs, shouldn't be intimidated by positional depth. It's going to exist everywhere. Wisconsin has loads, OSU picks up quality backs every year. MSU got a good one last year.
|17 weeks 2 days ago||And?||
That's a lot of what ameteur rapping is. Using a pre-existing beat, and changing your lyrics. I guess they do take credit for the beat, but there are some tweaks from the original John Legend track. They would certainly get sued if they tried to profit though.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Depends||
Miami, sure. People there have other priorities. But cities like OKC, Portland, and San Antonio have awesome fans. Even cities with other stuff going on like Boston and Indy have damn good fans. Beyond that, it's just like college. Fans will show up to watch a winner. You can't possible argue that Indiana or Purdue football has an awesome atmosphere right now.
|18 weeks 4 days ago||Billy Donovan||
Not topic worthy because it's basically a conspiracy theory, but Billy Donovan has been contacted by the Cavs. IF (big if) he leaves, perhaps Jon Horford could be re-recruited for his grad year? If we don't pick up Eron, we have his scholarship available. I'm only speculating because it's pretty clear his family's familiarity with Donovan and his offense was a big reason for the push to transfer. If he had to go back to the drawing board in terms of finding a 5th year suitor, I think I could imagine that he might re-consider a Michigan program that is suddenly down to 95% Freshmen.
Long shot, but is it worth gossiping about if Donovan bolts?
EDIT: I read the article and he's pretty adamant that he isn't interested. I am an idiot who likes to imagine scenarios where Michigan can be one big happy family that has a championship roster.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||True||
It's not "good" that's for sure. But it also might not matter at all. We've seen the visit policy allow for visits before, so no need to panic yet.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Valentine||
He's a good player, but a lock for the NBA if he plays to his full ability?!?
Draymond Green was the absolute best case scenario for a 6"6 point forward who isn't very athletic. Valentine has the same skill set, but is half as good right now. Green was a second round draft pick who is carving out a nice niche. So, if Valentine can become harness every last drop of skill and become an All-American and POY candidate, he might have a shot in the late first round.
A nice player. May be All-Big Ten, but I don't see the NBA upside. He'll need to develop into Draymond Green to have a realistic shot.
|19 weeks 6 days ago||This||
I think the talent is on our roster. We've recruited at an A/A- level the last three years. OSU has been A+/A. Only difference is that we spotted them a 4 year head start in talent (at some positions).
|19 weeks 6 days ago||Talent||
Can't agree at running back. If you're taking talent, we have a 5 star and 4 star sophomores, and a 4 star junior in Hayes. I think that would give us at least a wash. Same with the OLine. Our guys are super young and coming off an awful season. But we have just as much talent as OSU up there when it comes to star rankings and physical attributes.
|20 weeks 3 days ago||He's a punk?||
Based off what? College 7-10 years ago? According to everything I've read, he has indeed matured. Dude legitimately a seasoned veteran at this point. Time flies.
|20 weeks 4 days ago||Waiver||
I know they give waivers pretty often these days, sometimes with pretty light arguments. But is there anything to suggest that he'll apply and might receive it?
|20 weeks 4 days ago||Izzo||
Is Izzo really that bad? Take off the rival glasses. Most of his players love playing for him. Drew Neitzel is the only guy who I've heard gripe a little bit about his usage.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||Factors||
He's a young, energetic coach who is selling a promise (of revival). That's a draw. Another draw is playing time. They have program tradition (if you're COMPLETELEY IGNORE that thing that happened).
Sparty slappies pointed to these reasons as explanations for our last few recruiting classes. They're plausable explanations. He has a lot to sell right now. These recruits won't see much of the bowl ban, but they are looking at a thin depth chart for a "hot" coach at a football crazy school. There's no reason why WE should panic, but congrats to PSU for capitalizing on it. Only time will tell whether it'll materialize.
|20 weeks 6 days ago||College Sports are changing||
I don't love it. Don't love Rutgers either (I'm ok with Maryland). But college sports are changing for better or worse. Players will be paid at some point. The past is the past, and we need to keep up with the joneses. Better yet, we can be the joneses. That's what Delaney is trying to do to keep the B10 on top. I'll deal with it and keep cheering for Michigan.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||I know||
I tried to prevent this type of response by stating that it's both hypothetical, and May. Excuse me for being redundant on a fan site message board, where the motto should be "you've probably discussed this to the point of exhaustion"
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah that's true||
True, but I've read that his role will be combo guard with the hopes that he can grasp and contribute significantly at the 1 so I'm not grasping at straws. I think a 5* would feel OK about having a combo guy, especially a 2* combo guy on the roster ahead of him. There aren't many elite programs with zero competition.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||Hypothetical||
It's the offseason, so a hypothetical: Coach Cal to Lakers, Booker gets an out of his scholarship. Does Michigan make a play for him with MAAR and Dawkins in the fold? We have a scholarship open, and no guarantee Hatch plays out his eligibility. Plus the LeVert to pros buzz, and belief that MAAR can become a 1 while Dawkins is more a 3/4. I say yes, I'd welcome Booker's talent in a heartbeat. Shame he isn't 7 feet. Karl Towns is though...would be reconsider Michigan (childhood favorite), even though we weren't among his top 5.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||See!?!||
This is the kool aid I was drinking a few weeks ago.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Next Year||
Yeah, our interior defense and rebounding will be questionable. The good news is that we don't play in the same league as Kentucky, Kansas, or Duke. Frank Kaminsky is a great center, but he's hardly the physical type that could take advantage of our size. In fact, Donnal might be athletic enough to give him a good fight. AJ Hammond, and a few 7' freshmen (Maryland and Purdue) are the only giant bodies who return to our league. OSU has some trees, but they haven't been all that impressive in 6 combined years. State has veteran bulk with Costello, but beyond that it's Schilling and strech-type Kaminsky.
I don't think this changes our outlook for the conference that much. We'll thrive off guard play like we have been, and might even be a little better on the glass with overall better size (1-5), even if our 5 guys are young/smallish. We'll have trouble against the blue chip centers in March, but I don't see any reason why Sweet 16 shouldn't be par for next year. We'll be cool
|22 weeks 4 days ago||You've never been to Ann Arbor||
I can tell you've never been to Ann Arbor or spent much time around current undergrads.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||This is so bizarre||
So bizarre. I feel very bad for Mitch. Admittedly, I've smoked several times without consequence. He smoked once (ok, probably more but the kid was injured. He'd passed most of his others) and gets tested during the NCAA tournament which is a year long ban!?!?! A whole year? It's not a PED. This makes me more upset than the whole paying players argument does.
Best wishes to Mitch McGary. Such a bizarre exit, to end a bizarre career.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||I agree||
I agree. And while I see why people don't sent App State, I'm on the other end of the fence. Bring them on. I'll be tuned in and fired up for a season opener with a game that sort of means something.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Yes||
I'm with you. The Horror happened, we can't ever erase that. I sure as hell don't want a losing record to App State. I want to beat them 100 times. We are Michigan, we shouldn't be scared to play them. Even if we aren't "ready" this year, we should never lose this game. Bring them on. I am very excited for the game, and I think the team will be too. Could be an especially motivated group in fall camp.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||It's OK||
It's OK, Chad Lindsey will start at center and Glasgow will slide one of the underclassmen out at guard once we dispose of App State.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Re:video||
I'd like to see a video of the white trashiest names out there. I've heard some total gems lately.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
OSU fans are going to have so much fun with us for that one and the way this unfolded. Wolverine tears. This actually is a solid blow despite the fact that nothing about our team has changed.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||Yup||
Haha I'll admit that's ironic. So I do apologize for that. Poor form. Didn't mean to insult anybody in my effort to prove that some names have a pattern of heritage or religion that are fair to acknowlege, and defend a reasonable post by the Devotee.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||People are hypersensitive||
I can't understand why you were criticized for this comment. MAAR's name combines like 4 very common Muslim names. So yes, it is surprising that he attends Catholic Central because he's probably Muslim. There was nothing xenophobic about what you said ("doesn't matter though"). It was just an observation, and you have nothing to apologize for.
For other posters; calm down.
1. "Bc of his name!?!" - Are you not aware that Muhammad, Ali, Abdur, and Rahkman are very common names for individuals who practice Islam? Where did you grow up? Muhammad Ali = Muslim, Shareef Abdur-Raheem = Muslim. I could keep going...
2. "Bc everyone who goes to Catholic Central goes into priesthood?" - Way to use a wild superlative. That is a weak analogy, and an ad populum fallacy. While a small percentage of CC students go into priesthood, I'm willing to bet that an overwelming proportion are at least Christian. There are Islamic academies too. This isn't discriminatory.
3. "Worst post you've made" - Seemed perfectly reasonable to me. He didn't insult anybody, or make any religious comments.
In conclusion, welcome to the team MAAR. Doesn't matter what his religion is. But it is uncommon for a (presumably) Muslim student to play for Catholic Central and I also agree that it's interesting.
|23 weeks 3 days ago||No||
The answer is probably no. Being from Ann Arbor isn't a reason to recruit a transfer. He doesn't seem to fit our team, may not be "good enough," and doesn't add much value as a sit one year play one year guy.
|23 weeks 4 days ago||Probably not||
If there's interest, it appears we're lower on the list. I'm not holding my breath
|23 weeks 4 days ago||The tall guys||
They talk guys. No but seriously really only Obi because apparently Huff doesn't even want to play a lot of 4.
|23 weeks 5 days ago||I get it||
I totally understand why people are skeptical of Max. And if you read my other responses, I'm not trying to say he'll emerge as an All-Big Ten player. But as one final rebuttal because I've been procrastinating all day:
1) Stuck behind Morgan and Horford: Is that really a knock on him or his situation? Morgan, who I've been trying to say is a better version of him with 2 years and much more game experience and Horford, who's also older, and more experience -- also taller, and bouncier which provides a different look than 2 "Morgan" types were. Being third on the depth chart shouldn't be a predictor of success. Cheap examples: Brady was a benchwarmer for a while, Anibal Sanchez is the #3 starter, and Wisconsin bigs do it all the time.
2) Yeah, Max does get lost. But how much of that is Max, and how much of that is Max being thrown into a game that's either A) Already won and a glorified pick-up game, or B) An emergency situation that calls him off the bench stone cold to play with first teamers he barely practices with. I can't answer this question, neither can you. I suppose only the coaches know at this point.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Perimeter Defense||
Another thing to be optimistic about is perimeter defense. Awful last year. It COULD be a strength next year. We lose Nik, and get Irvin and Walton another year older/wiser/conditioned. LeVert has the natural ability. Maybe he puts it all together in year three. Or maybe not, because of offensive burdern. We could pretty much switch every position too.
Another thing is the 1-3-1. Does Beilein use it more next year? Roster seems tailor made. A ton of length. Chatman, Irvin, LeVert interchangable at the top and wings. Walton seems like the ideal baseline guy. Donnal could hold down the middle (or better yet, rebound magnet McGary). Seems like we could really create some turnovers with next years roster.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Yep||
It's an appropriate beverage for summer (no football and basketball). I'd rather look for reasons that Max can be a dark-horse contributor than spend all off-season looking at a McGary-less front court that includes almost exclusively freshmen (Donnal, Doyle, Wilson, Chatman) or guys with slim builds (welp; they're the same guys).
Ultimately we're built for guard play and we'll be fine regardless. But it's nice to have options up front. I like the potential of the guys we have. But there's going to come a time where we get outmuscled, and Max is the only player we have who has girth and muscle. Doyle will, but I've learned not to count on a true freshman big as a sure thing -- especially one without that "Can't Miss" tag.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||College Hoops||
There's plenty of room in college hoops for "guys." Maybe I came off a little too optimistic in my original post, but I want to say that I think Max has a shot at becoming a "guy," and I'd love that. Consistently 5-15 minutes a game. He doesn't have to be Jordan Morgan, but he might become a guy we can count on to give us solid minutes every game (as opposed to emergency Max).
He's got the body to rebound, set good screens, an IQ that suggests he can master defensive positioning, and presumably a better shooter than Morgan (the coaches obviously told him he can shoot threes, even if he hasn't made many). The sample size isn't enough for me to say he's a career scout teamer yet.
So I don't really disagree with you. He won't shoot 70%. But maybe he can hit enough long 2s or 3s to stretch the defense a bit. And he might not have the quickness or athleticism, but in college hoops you can become a pretty good defender with IQ and hustle (pre-charge rule?). At the very least, could be become a Zack Novak at power forward?
Not calling a LeVert-type improvement for him, but I'll "hold" my stock on Max for now. I'd prefer to think he's worth something if Mitch makes the jump.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||No doubt||
I agree. It's for the sake of making a point. But as a society we tend to rate everybody above average. That's statistically impossible. JMo was no Petway with the leap, and his athleticism improved dramatically with hard work in the weight room and by doing cardio. That's a fact. He didn't come to Michigan as the athlete he left as.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Maybe||
Maybe not, but those are assumptions based on sample size.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Opportunity||
What I alluded to is that opportunity brings out the best in players. Horford cited that, and it's usually true. JMo was described as awful during his redshirt year. In three years you haven't seen anything from Max because you haven't seen much of Max. And I'll also challenge you by saying that he hasn't been that bad in his emergency minutes.
|23 weeks 6 days ago||Why not||
Max is a nearly a clone of JMo. Opportunity creates players. JMo had tons of experience. Why can't Max be a JMo defensive quarterback, finisher, and box out champ? He's actually been solid on D and on the glass in limited chances. Just needs to stop chucking threes.
|24 weeks 17 hours ago||Maryland||
A Top 10 recruiting class joining plenty of returning upperclassmen from a above-average ACC team in a weak year by the Big Ten standards. Upperclassmen are a big deal in the age of NBA early entries. Florida this year, Miami last year, Nebraska this year to some extent -- you have 22 year olds on the court, you're gonna have more success than your talent level might suggest.
We'll see. Just my prediction. They have a good mix of young talent and seasoned vets.
|24 weeks 17 hours ago||1. Wisconsin2. Maryland3.||
4-6 are closer to the rest than 1-3. I think we win >20 regular season games, are wire to wire #20-30 range, and enter the NCAA tournament as a 5-7 seed.
|24 weeks 2 days ago||The worst||
I don't think it's the worst. It's better than AstroTurf, concrete, and hardwood.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||A few fallacies||
You can make great money in Europe if you're playing for a top team in a top league, and it goes down from there. I have a mutual friend of Drew Neitzel who says he was making "150-250,000". That's great money, but he was pretty high in demand for Europe. Novak was probably much much less, for comparison. Also, I've heard playing in a foreign country gets a little old - foreign language, culture, get a little homesick. Not all teams play in southern France.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||His quotes||
Not intended exclusively for you, but I think we're nitpicking his comments a little too much. I don't think Horford realized how much the blogosphere would dissect that sentence when he said it. He probably thought it was a neutral truth that answered the question and left the meat to his friend and teammate.
If I am ever interviewed, I'm totally hiring a focus group beforehand. Too much analysis on the word choice of Horford, Hoke, etc.. etc..
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Read again||
Read my comments (and the article) again. He did say that JMo was successful and Mitch was too. He just said he didn't have the opportunity to build his own confidence because there weren't enough minutes available for HIM in our current landscape. Although he cited fit, he didn't damn it. You can do it, he said he did it when he got extended minutes. It's just an issue of Horford being the type of guy that thrives off PT to "warm up." I have no issue with that, it's usually true for most guys (see JMo 13-14, 12-13 vs. late 11-12, McGary in tourney). My only rebuttal would be that he staggered his own minutes by picking up cheap fouls.
On a different note; feels like we're all forgetting about Max Beifeldt. Sure, he's six foot seven or eight and stocky...but he looks a lot like Jordan Morgan. I don't think that Morgan's trajectory would be much different than Max's if he wasn't thrust into the fire as an underclassman with creative guards.
Max has had his moments as a rebounder and defender. Like Jon is implying, players tend to grow more when their responsibility grow. I wouldn't be surprised to see Max become an effective rotation player, JMo-lite, moving forward. My only complaint of him is that he needs to stop chucking threes.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||Horford||
I don't know if it's possible to have a better exit than that, from Jon's perspective or Michigan's. He was completely transparent about the reasons he was leaving -- now we all know. He cited the offense, but said that a traditional big could definitely be successful given the opportunity. He said that he was when he had the minutes. He said that the coaches developed his talent, and he's ready to show it where the coaches trust him (I read: where competition for the 1 'true post' spot is a little thinner). He praises the coaches, his teammates, and the university. The coaches look extra classy in the whole ordeal. Horford is following his heart (and unfortunately, his handlers advice for 4 years(!). I admire his patience if that is the truth).
I expected to think it might knick our ability to recruit given his "fit" comments, but honestly I don't believe it will. We'll use one "true" post, and there's room for that -- McGary, Doyle, Zimmerman, Stone, whoever. The other big will always be a "stretch" guy. Hopefully bigger than what we've had in Novak and GRIII, but Donnal and DJ Wilson are the ideal fits there. There's nothing damning about the 4 in this offense.
I guess what I'm saying in many words is that Horford is leaving with extreme grace. Injuries and JMo ultimately put a cap on what he could personally accomplish at UofM (and to some extend fit), but he'll leave with a lot of memories, TEAM success, and a degree. Very happy for Jon Horford and can't wait to still what he can do elsewhere. I can see him landing at Big East or AAC school for sure.
|24 weeks 3 days ago||I disagree||
I disagree. Although it's unfortunate that his handlers were pushing him one way, they'd been doing it for FOUR years. Him transferring as a post-grad says more about Horford's desire to be a good teammate and get his degree than it does him giving in to external pressure.
And as for McGary; he was probably explicitly asked that question. He answered it without giving any indication of his direction. What's Mitch gonna do? You tell me based on Horford's comments or decision.
|24 weeks 4 days ago||Face Value||
He's saying take it at face value. Him tweeting grow blue with Nik means we develop players and our guys have success. It does not mean that Nik is coming back even taller than he was last year.
|25 weeks 3 hours ago||Way-Too-Early||
Says it in the title. It's way too early. But it's fun to look far far ahead, and it gives the writer something to post this AM.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Awesome||
Very well done, but I feel like Walton and Horford should have a few clips. Just to chronicle all the key guys who were a part of these runs. That's nitpicking though. Awesome video.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Toledo||
Toledo is a whole lot closer to Ann Arbor than it is to, say, Utah
|25 weeks 1 day ago||I can't stand your type||
Why don't you tell me about all the other things you don't care for, without me asking. Cats? Game of Thrones? How I Met Your Mother, maybe?
|25 weeks 2 days ago||Very true||
But will they get to play competitive basketball with their best friends? Not here to start an argument about merits of coming back for college life, but Nik has been on record saying that it's a huge factor in his decision.
|25 weeks 3 days ago||Baseball||
The perfect summer sport. It's leisurely and outdoors. Fun to spend time with good people at the games, and I also love grilling while the Tigers are on in the background.
|25 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah||
Horton was a McD AA, and Harris was Top 40. Chris Hunter and Courtney Sims were each 3/4 star guys in the Top 150 range of a Donnal or Burke.
|26 weeks 1 day ago||Agree||
I agree, and said this to my friend before the last possession. I just feel much more comfortable in our offense down 1-2 with the last shot than our defense tied up. The stats support that.
|26 weeks 3 days ago||For 35 minutes||
For 35 minutes seemed like everything was going eright.
|26 weeks 3 days ago||Michigan||
Morris did have an offer from Michigan. He and Walton were basically simultaneous, first commit gets it.
Oliver had Michigan interest. But our philosophy isn't to offer guys until their interest is high, and it would be a commutable offer from our end. While he has become a good player, ultimately we got our top choice.
|26 weeks 4 days ago||Exactly||
I've had discussions with my siblings on this topic (one is a rabid MSU fan). We agree that if you have a geographical or familial connection, it's completely fair game. If you grew up a fan of the team - even without logic (I was a childhood Penguins fan...no explanation) it's fair game. If you became a fan when they were on top, and stuck with them to thick and thin (i.e remained a Michigan fan despite 3-9, 5-7) it's fair game.
|26 weeks 4 days ago||Walmart Wolverines||
Such an overrated and ridiculous concept. The argument doesn't make any sense.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||Jalen||
Covers the NCAA (College Gameday) and the NBA (ABC/ESPN). Plus he's deep with ties in the NBA and Detroit. I think he's uniquely qualified to have a pulse on this.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||Gary Harris||
I agree in general, but we did recruit Gary Harris as hard as possible - Costello and Valentine were recruits as well.
|27 weeks 14 hours ago||Yeah, right before you assert||
Yeah, right before you assert your claim of universal skepticism. That's like "No disrespect but, (insert insult here)"
We can agree to disagree. Enjoy your evening, Lord Grantham. Go Blue.
|27 weeks 14 hours ago||Yeah, right before you assert||
Yeah, right before you assert your claim of universal skepticism. That's like "No disrespect but, (insert insult here)"
We can agree to disagree. Enjoy your evening, Lord Grantham. Go Blue.
|27 weeks 14 hours ago||Really?||
You don't think graduating from West Point says something about a man's character? Are you familiar with West Point?
I'm done engaging in this debate. I don't think I have a chance of persuading you.
|27 weeks 15 hours ago||Innocent until proven guilty||
I'm a little bit shocked at this response. Usually with big time college athletics, there are rumors circulating, smoke, or ultimately straight up fire surrounding the bad eggs.
Coach K graduated from West Point, and has coached Duke for decades without a major violation or any of his players committing an offense that's worth reporting. Sure, maybe there's some cover up somewhere. But the biggest knock on Duke is that he recruits "Uncle Toms." He isn't the lacrosse coach.
I really didn't expect there to be so much backlash about saying Coack K is a good dude who runs a clean program. There hasn't been an ounce of evidence to suggest otherwise, and this is America. Innocent until proven guilty. Plus the man graduated from West Point, doesn't that earn him some benefit of the doubt?
|27 weeks 15 hours ago||OK||
So nobody is a quality person unless you know them first hand? You're quite the skeptic. I won't try to pursuade you. Watch out for everybody, man.
|27 weeks 15 hours ago||Clean too||
As much hate as Duke gets for home court advantage and media bias, there is no coach who does it as clean as Coach K does. Does anyone disagree that he's a great coach and a quality human? Easily the best in the game when you consider coaching and off the court stuff.
Our guy isn't too far behind.
|27 weeks 16 hours ago||Recruits||
I like to keep an eye on guys that Michigan recruited, but filled up before they could choose (i.e. Pangos, Monte Morris) or picked another school in a tight decision over Michigan (i.e. Prather, Lubick).
There have been very few players who have picked Michigan, that I could say might be "unhappy" with their decision. Smotrycz obviously, Brundidge just didn't pan out. On the other hand; Morris, Burke, THJ, Stauskas, GRIII, LeVert (plus McGary+Walton+Irvin as incompletes) must be thrilled with their decisions. Development, big stage, winning.
There's a class of players that have done very well at their school: Pangos (Zags), Larry Nance (Wyoming), Prather (Florida), Older two Plumlees (Duke), Devin Oliver (Dayton), Gary Harris. All having success, so good for them. Ray McCallum did well for Dad. It worked out for both parties.
There's also a class of players that I think might have done it differently. Obviously speculating here, but hear me out. Nate Lubick and youngest Plumlee had/are having 'fine careers,' Yogi is probably OK where he's at, but it seems like Indiana is volitile and you can't argue he's had near as much success as our Sophomore class. Trey Ziegler, Dom Pointer, Della Valle...I think they all might wish they had taken a mulligan.
I don't know what my point is. I'd bet that Booker, Kennard, and Bates-Diop each have reasonable-heavy success at their schools. But deep down we all know that Michigan does it better, and they would have reached greater heights under Beilein, Jordan, Bacari, and Meyer.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Not just you||
I've always thought it too. Apparently Ferrell did a video interview with fans (Redditt maybe) where he 'confessed' that he as actually Chad Smith. Smith came out with a rebuttal. Both pretty good sports about it, funny stuff.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||No||
The average joe isn't bound to everything he spews on Twitter or elsewhere. Why should Roddy? He was just engaging with the guy.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Northwestern||
I guess he isn't too good at geography. Isn't Northwestern Chicago's Big Ten school?
|27 weeks 1 day ago||That's not true||
He's produced 3 players with first round-ish NBA grades after one year (Trey, Mitch, Glenn). More after year two and beyond.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Kam Chapman||
Is literally 25 on most recruiting boards. Might have been higher but he lost his junior year to transfer wackiness. He's an elite talent. Tall, long, and skilled. Like LeVert with a few more inches.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Tennessee||
They deserve to be here. Resume was an 11 seed, a few impressive wins sprinkled in there. They're playing great basketball right now and deserve to be where they are.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||OT||
Don't think it's worth starting a new thread, but does anyone know where I can watch the full episode of BTN Journey with JMo's Senior Day stuff? Could only find a 2:35 clip on YouTube.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||Do it||
Stop exploring and plant the damn flag. This would be huge. Verstile depth and experience at a minimum. Quality starter in the best case. Plus the young man could get a decent graduate education.