this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
|42 weeks 18 hours ago||Everybody knew all along...||
It is amazing how everyone knew it would not work out. I agree with the premise of the OP, we all thought we had a Great DC in Mattison, and after year one thought the HC was a solid if not quirky sort that epitomized what we wanted at Michigan. I believed all the way till the Utah game that the slow maturation of the OL would cure most of the issues. However, as many have stated, it is now apparent the end is here.
The hard part is respecting the current players AND coaches enough to stop the constant screaming. They are done, no reason to continue to yell about it. Support the team and stay classy. However, I do wish there were ways to pinpoint displeasure with David Brandon without it reflecting on the football team. Everything he touches is greasy and needs to go away.
|2 years 43 weeks ago||Why not Auburn?||
I want an SEC school that isn't Alabama or LSU. When Michigan is at full strength scholarship and depth wise, we should want a piece of the SEC to stop the constant arrogance. Auburn is going to struggle as long as Saban is sweeping up the Tier 1 Alabama kids. It's like getting Little Brother 2.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||I remember that vividly||
I was still in Junior High but I remember Keith Smith making those free throws and running directly into the tunnel. The Bodnars, Dan Pelokoudas, Thad Garner, ...those teams did struggle. How I loved to hear Mike McGee from the top of the key.
I agree with another poster, this is the first time I've felt that everyone on the string wasn't a total newbie. Most of the people on this site believe that MSU has always owned the state. I went to Michigan in the 80s. Michigan was always at the top or fighting at the top almost the entire decade in football and basketball. MSU was definitely the irritating little brother back then.
|3 years 16 weeks ago||That was my graduation also '87||
I was very happy he spoke. I also remember that some of the ultra-liberal groups were against him being invited. Don't remember why, just something ridiculous. Great man, great life.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Clue me in||
Magnus, can you spell that out for us who aren't as tuned in? Why was it not a coincidence that they all committed in mid-February?
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Not a coincidence?||
Magnus, can you spell that out for us who aren't as tuned in? Why was it not a coincidence that they all committed in mid-February?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Hard to be credible||
Hey FannMan, do you really not how to spell the word lose? Once or twice could be typos but 3 times in one post? We can't loose both?
|3 years 44 weeks ago||I totally agree with OP||
There isn't a debate over the 1st string QB. Denard is the guy and while I'm disappointed about his ability to throw the ball, there is no debate he is the QB unless he is hurt. However, I really wanted the coaches to get Devin Gardner on the field the last two weeks. I was irritated that he didn't get in earlier against Eastern.
Today, I really wanted to get that 28 pt lead so Gardner could get in there. Yes, getting snaps against Eastern and SDSU would have been very beneficial. Unfortunately, I think he will have to get in the game because of Denard getting banged up later in the season. As Hoke likes to say we have expectations for the "position", Gardner needs to get more experience. Period.
|4 years 9 weeks ago||Question for Tom||
I read this blog multiple times a day but post rarely, so forgive me if I'm not following protocol by asking this here.
Tom, do you know if Michigan has offered Daniel Gibbs an OL from Birmingham Seaholm? I know he has visited but haven't seen his name anywhere on any recruiting updates lately. I had heard that he was hearing from Wisconsin and I don't want to see Michigan losing our own kids to them.
I know the kid is a real good student and dominates the league he is in, but that may not mean he is a premier talent. Any insight?
|4 years 9 weeks ago||Reality sets in?||
Why do you think hard times are coming this year? The offense is extremely talented and even though they are dealing with a new scheme, I see it being very good. The defense will not be good still but it HAS to be better. We won 7 games last year, you don't see 8+ wins this year?
My head says 8 wins, but my heart says 9. I don't think this team is going to dampen the recruiting landscape, If the coordinators are as good as we think...it should only get people more excited.
|4 years 13 weeks ago||Going to have to give a thumbs down||
I appreciate sarcasm and the use of pictures to make a point as much as anybody. But this was a little painful to read. Too cute and should stay in the Diaries and not the Front page. I know it's a slow season, but I'd rather have nothing rather than that.
In regards to the topic, we all tire of the factions created by the last 5 years (the last 2 years of Lloyd created some also) but the only thing that matters is where we are now. A comment on that fact is appropriate, it was just way too long and hard to follow.
BTW, I now know what the line in the MSU fight song about the "banks of the old Red Seder" means.
|4 years 24 weeks ago||4 to 5 years||
Hopefully that is not the case. Harbaugh brought Stanford to elite level in 4 years and Stanford football was worse off then we are now.
Denard will be a senior, the team will have some good experience on D and I believe that Michigan will be very competitive against Alabama. Alabama was one of the most highly talented teams in the country this year. They lost 3 games somehow (is the great Saban fallible?) and were "loaded for bear" in that bowl game. But I refuse to believe they are out of our league.
I'm going to assume that Hoke is a good coach and will build on RR's talent base. I'm really optimistic that Hoke can take advantage of the quickness of the current players on the roster and maturity will make us a good defense. Denard is a special talent and I think that will make give us a chance in every game that year.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||Drivel||
I clicked on this thinking it had some relation to Michigan sports. Seriously, this is just a link to an article that is just the online edition of TMZ.
I don't post often.... because I'm more interested in finding information than seeing every thought that pops into my head online. I thought Daulerio was somebody commenting on Michigan sports and Brian made some comment on him. Now I realize that the editor of Deadspin was mentioned by Brian in a negative light at one time. Referencing the "internet" is not a direct link to this site.
Let's hope tomorrow brings better content.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||mindless sour grapes||
Jake Fisher is by all accounts a very talented football player. I hope he doesn't go to Oregon. People posting negative things about him just because it is rumored that we missed out is silly. Stay Classy San Diego!
|4 years 25 weeks ago||The Valley||
Rawls plays in a conference that has lots of good athletes but poor coaching and little resources results in few good teams
|4 years 26 weeks ago||Don't forget about Fitz||
While I agree that Rawls would be a worthwhile pick up, I don't know if I'm going to crown him the best on our roster. I think that Fitzgerald Touissant is going to bless the coaching change and become a great back.
|4 years 27 weeks ago||Here Here or is Hear Hear?||
I agree. I loved Denard as much as the next guy, but we depended on his running ability too much. It was hard to not love the 5 or 6 yd QB draws, but it put too much stress on his body. I think that if done correctly the coaching change can really give Denard a true chance to become a good passer. Yes, he struggled passing at points last year but he also showed great flashes.
Rich Rod has left very good talent on offense. I think even with a different scheme they can be successful next year. Quickness is still valued in all offenses. I think Vincent Smith and some of the really undersized guys are going to have to work hard to beat out the bigger players.
There may be a big hole in this year's recruiting class on offense....but I think if Al Borges is worth his stuff they should still be good on offense for the next couple years
|4 years 28 weeks ago||Go to the Tourney?||
With this team? Come on, people were doubting they could win 10 games all year after Manny left. I am not sold on Belien because I agree that he needs to recruit at a higher level. However, the results this year show progress and John Belien deserves another 2 years to see if this will work.
Rich Rod is a a good coach but the complete failure on Defense and Special Teams doomed him.
|4 years 33 weeks ago||there is benefit||
of me just hanging out on the Blog for hours on end. I don't care what my wife says
|4 years 33 weeks ago||Couldn't agree more||
I do think that either way, waiting until after the bowl game is the right decision by Brandon. If you are going to fire RR you cannot do it without making a quick hire to Harbaugh. If you are keeping him, I think you need to see more "progress" in the bowl game. The Wisconsin and Ohio St games along with the bad press from the Bust makes it very difficult for Brandon to feel good about keeping RR.
I know it may not be fair to the assistants but I think that DB really is using this time as evaluating the way everything gets handled not solely the Gator Bowl result.
I will be supportive of either decision. Jim Harbaugh is hired or Rodriguez is retained with an announcement of the hire of a solid D coordinator.
With all the transition at Florida, Miami, Pitt etc. I really want either staff to be aggressive in getting some high level recruits to rebuild the talent pipeline. I know it isn't popular to agree with Chris Spielman but I do. Michigan should have NFL level athletes all over the roster. This shouldn't be a place that only gets the talent that Ohio St or Florida doesn't want.
|4 years 33 weeks ago||Shawn Conway will not be in this class||
Grades and trouble and grades.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Am I missing a running joke?||
I'm mostly a reader and not a poster but I've seen posts with the term Bolivian multiple times. People do know that the word is oblivion...correct? The only reason that word Bolivian should be used is to describe the police that killed Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
|4 years 35 weeks ago||I'm a Rich Rod supporter but||
come on....the situation at Stanford was much worse. Nobody can deny Harbaugh's success at Stanford and he did it without those SEC academic standards.
I still want Rodriguez another year to prove his ability, but if Brandon delivers Harbaugh it is hard to argue based on the facts we can see. My issue with the "Let's Fire this Guy" rant in this case or in any other is there isn't necessarily a better option. However, Harbaugh looks like a perfect choice.
|4 years 37 weeks ago||Negative Nellie||
That's funny, I was just complaining that I thought recruiting wasn't doing well. I guess I always want to see a handful of difference makers that have a possibility of playing as freshman. Rather than a bunch of 3 stars being forced into starting roles.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||I understand that these are somebody's kids||
I definitely try to realize that these guys aren't being professionals and need to be treated as such. But I also know that this is big-time sports with huge budgets and large groups of people spending tons of time reading and writing on this blog. I tend to agree not only with the original poster's assessment of Obi Ezeh and his disappointing play but also don't think his critique is not overly harsh.
If we are going to have high expectations for Michigan football, we need to have high expectations for a senior 3 year starter. We can't watch that defense and not criticize the individual play. More than anything, Kenny Demens play since replacing Obi shows the poor decisions by GERG for waiting so long to make the change.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Not sure its TCU Def coordinator||
But I agree that it is time to use some cash to do whatever it takes. I think we get caught into who is ever best this season. I don't know that just because TCU is good right now that means they have the best coordinator available. RR and Brandon need to get their heads together and realize that Rich is in charge of the team but he needs to find a great D coord and get out of the way. That means not expecting a Coordinator to come in without making some changes if he feels that is what he needs.
I can't even enjoy watching the offense because of the pain of our defense and Special Teams. Our kickoff coverage was abysmal today. I love our offense and think Rich is a great game coach. However, there is not doubt that GERG must go. And more importantly, Rich needs to make a great hire....and needs to ask for help on finding the right answer this time.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Rodriguez vs Zook||
After the horrors of our defense...especially Penn St....I still believe in Rich Rod in a close game. Ron Zook is a game day moron.
As we all saw in the second half against Penn St, Rodriguez is at least going to work with the D on confidence and motivation. If we get some momentum against Illinois I think that the Zooksters will find a way to give Michigan the win. As much as I believe Rodriguez is the guy, we need this win to still make this a respectable year (assuming a Purdue win).
|4 years 38 weeks ago||I think this is incredibly negative||
I'm assuming this was what happens when Michigan hires Brady Hoke and Denard transfers after RR leaves. How does a top offensive club with almost everyone return and a terrible young defense with no where to go but up not do better than this? If I thought we were this hopeless I wouldn't be on this site everyday.
Penn St was incredibly depressing and pointed to an obvious need to make major changes on the defensive side of the ball in regards to coaching. However, to say we won't get average on defense means that Rich Rod is inept. I don't believe that.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Agreed||
Remove the post. Not funny and poor taste
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Positive and Negative out of Seaholm||
I have some inside word that Shawn Conway is going to have a tough time qualifying. On a more positive note it seems that Michigan is in a good spot for a big Junior OL out of Seaholm Daniel Gibbs. Here is some home cooking fluff on Dan:
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Demens was what I expected||
Better than Ezeh, but not a world beater. There should be no more Obi and let Demens learn along with all the other kids in the secondary. What happened to the bouncing ball of Jonas Mouton. He reverted back to the U Mass Mouton, overrunning everything and giving cutback lanes everywhere. He was soooo disappointing against Iowa.
|4 years 41 weeks ago||It's SUPPOSED to work||
except for the fact that your Senior LB Obi Ezeh has been completely awful with no signs of improving. Please I need to see Fitzgerald or Demens fail so I have some understanding on why Obi continues to play.
|4 years 41 weeks ago||More small-mindedness||
While it is obviously not all on one guy. I tend to be in the camp that Obi is absolutely awful at a position that is very important with a 3 man front. The rest of the defense I can talk about youth, what is our LB excuse?
|4 years 41 weeks ago||There is a positive at LB for next year.||
Obi Ezeh will finally be gone. I'm sorry but the biggest issue I have with the GERG and RR is the fact that they still play Obi. Please just key on him when you watch the game. I've never seen a college linebacker less instinctual or provide so little punch for his size. He must be competent in the his pass protection reads, but his ability to make a difference in the running game or blitzing is ridiculous. I've never seen a LB on 3rd and 2 stand in the hole and absorb tackles for first downs as much as he does. Anybody, and I mean Anybody on the roster would be better. I believe the secondary will improve with experience and the LB play (btw why doesn't Capt Mouton ever see the field when Obi is so bad?) will be addition with subtraction.
|4 years 42 weeks ago||Coaches of freshman||
There is a reason you don't put so many true freshman out there together. These guys are not freaks of athleticism that can't be kept off the field....they are our only option. The coaches need time, the players need time, and the goal is to minimize the ugliness.
As much asour defensive performance at the Indiana game was as close to torture as I've ever experienced (it seriously took a toll physically, I couldn't relax until Monday). We all have to stop looking for blame. I'm hoping that everybody is learning, both coaches and players alike, and the defense will improve somewhat. I will root for the defense like it was my own son rather than the eye of a grizzled Wolverine fan. Hope for the best, set no expectations.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Mark May called for GERGs head||
Said he should be fired if things don't get tons better. Personally, I blame whomever keeps trotting Obi out there. He was all kinds of awful today.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||This wasn't defense just missing assignments||
Our D was dominated by Mass all day long. Over and over and over. I'm sorry but Obi and Mouton are not getting it done....at all. It is exactly like last year. Our LB play is absolutely abysmal. I stopped and watched 5 plays during today's game just to watch Obi misplay things and never react properly to running plays. I cannot believe there aren't any instinctive linebackers on that roster. Give me anybody else, Demens, Fitzgerald, damn give me Brandin Hawthorne, I don't care how big he is....at least he can fill a hole. Mouton just isn't consistent, but Ezeh is just not good. That secondary could hold up to be average if we aren't getting gashed by a running game that gives up 5 yds a carry. Just once I want to see Ezeh hit somebody in the hole instead of waiting flat footed to make a tackle 5 yds downfield or completely whiffing. I understand youth in the secondary, but there is no excuse for Obi....please give me the walk on fullback, anyone is better.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Brendan Gibbons waste of scholarship||
Hagerup has mis-handled one ball and has one shank on his result this year. He is a true freshman and I don't see a problem. Kickers are better off now that we've moved off absolute waste Gibbons. I keep thinking he just needs to switch to right footed, because he has been a two year waste of scholarship. Hopefully, Schwietzen or however you spell it, will get better as we go. In regards to the return games, I keep waiting for all our speed to pay off. First it was fumbling the ball and now it seems we never give our returners any space or blocking. Today was definitely a bucket of cold water to the hype monster on defense especially and the special teams is not a positive that can lessen that pain.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Should be gone?||
I don't understand this mentatlity of transfers being so rampant. Just like I don't understand Lalota's thinking. Lots of things can happen in football, just like in life. It is like quitting your job everytime something bad at work happens or if you get bypassed for promotion. Or like getting a divorce everytime you have a disagreement with your spouse. Tate Forcier isn't playing pro ball, he has two years of eligibility after this one. He could find himself as the starting QB very easily with some mistimed injuries or poor play. Hopefully he learns from his 2 older brothers and their transfers that things don't necessarily get better.
If Jason Forcier had not gotten so antsy, he probably would have been Michigan's starting QB for every game in 2008 instead of Sheridan/Threet. He went to Stanford and never started a game.
|4 years 45 weeks ago||Hype getting to his head||
The reason that you' think of Tate is that some of the player's comments that praise Denard are absolutely a thinly veiled shot at Tate. Especially David Molk, I guarantee you that Molk is a big fan of Denard and Tate not so much.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||Amani, Amani||
I loved your touchdown against OSU when the Buckeye fell. But seriously, your knowledge of college football offenses has much to be desired. The only school that hasn't run a version of RR's spread is USC and Alabama. Florida, Boise St, even Ohio St was running it with Troy Smith. It is about personnel and if Rich ever gets a chance to run his offense with an upperclassmen there will be no doubts.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||I am pro Toussaint||
From what I've read, he seems to be the most dynamic. Injuries and too much dancing for RR's taste has kept him off the field. However, I'm rooting for him
|4 years 46 weeks ago||College Football via New York City||
I'm surprised Phi Numnuts even watches college football since most New York City residents consider it as just a distant ugly cousin to the NFL. This guy is the classic critic who only picks out the bad and ignores the good. The guy hasn't truly enjoyed a sporting event in 40 years....when he beat his younger sister in a race to the cupcakes.
|4 years 46 weeks ago||AK is injured||
Anthony Kim has been struggling with a thumb injury all year. He was trying to hold off surgery so he could make the Ryder Cup but his results weren't good enough. I think Cink is solid but I'll miss AK
|6 years 33 weeks ago||Focus on the positive||
Like the Michigan economy. That will get you through the pain of the 2008 Bowl season. Also hope college basketball is finally returning to Ann Arbor
|6 years 44 weeks ago||Moonshine McGuffie||
It gets you to White Lightning without being so obvious