alternate headline: man does job
|1 day 20 hours ago||I think he pointed out one important issue||
Felder & some others pointed out one important issue: there are relatively few weeks during the year where scholarship football players have completely unscheduled free time (no classes and no football). Taking away Spring Break is one of those few weeks.
But I think you will get a variety of opinions from former & current players. Like Jake Butt posted on Twitter, some kids would trade that Spring Break week for a week without football during Finals. But I am sure there are some kids & families that would prefer having that Spring Break free too, and by scheduling this spring break football trip, you are taking that option away from the players.
One thing Felder ignores though: players from the Midwest may enjoy having a spring football trip. Because he played at UNC, a lot of these opinions are coming from players in the South where they never had to have "spring" football in Northern-type conditions. Playing football in those conditions can be tough and sometimes even worse than the regular fall football weather. I think his opinion may be different if he played at a Midwestern or East Coast school.
|1 day 23 hours ago||He was trying to put together a recruiting class in 3 weeks||
This makes sense. Harbaugh was hired late & had 3 weeks to put a recruiting class together. It was a mad scramble and probably necessitated private transport to see as many recruits as possible. I am guessing the 2015-2016 numbers will look very similar to other schools.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Irvin & Sapp already had their "U Know It" segments||
I don't think that would have been a barrier to hiring Woodson. Eisen & Woodson are both pros. Woodson had also already done a bunch of part-time analyst work on NFL Network. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to hire him because Eisen loves him, but ESPN may have outbid them.
I would love to see Woodson & Manning both on ESPN replacing Keyshawn and Cris Carter. I think both are going to be excellent on TV.
|1 day 23 hours ago||Same here||
I think ESPN may have outbid them.
|2 days 4 hours ago||What was Texas football before Mack Brown?||
Clear out Mack Brown's legacy and culture? Do you remember what Texas Football was before Mack Brown? It barely had a pulse for 15 years. It didn't have a stranglehold on the Texas in-state recruiting like people expect now. Mack Brown built that. There is no Longhorn Network without Mack Brown's success.
This is crazy talk. Brown had a dropoff at the end of his career like Lloyd Carr, but you make it sound like he turned Texas football into some dumpster fire like Will Muschamp at Florida when it is the other way around. Texas Football is not the elite job it is now without Mack Brown.
|2 days 4 hours ago||I am talking about Florida under McElwain||
I think Muschamp is a terrible coach who used the same excuses that we are hearing for Strong right now. McElwain is cleaning up Muschamp's mess. Muschamp took over a program that he should have won more games with just like Strong.
Mack Brown did more than change the perception of Texas football. The reality is that Texas football was dead before Mack Brown and is not the job it is today without him and what he built.
|2 days 4 hours ago||I disagree with your take on Florida||
People blamed Muschamp's failures on the same "rotten" foundation that Urban Meyer left behind, but now it looks like it was just that Muschamp was a bad coach. I think the whole "rotten" foundation argument that was used for Muschamp is malarkey. McElwain seemed to do just fine in his first year with a program that has serious issues at QB and OL just like Texas.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Can you name me a job opening that was better?||
It was clear that there was dropoff in talent in the last 4 years, but c'mon man. This whole "rotten" foundation thing is not the only reason Strong has a losing record at Texas right now. A lot of this is his own doing as well. Mack Brown was still winning games with the "rotten" foundation. Texas football was pretty terrible in the 2 decades before Mack Brown took over. Strong was not inheriting some crumbling program. Mack Brown had completely changed the perception of Texas football and built an in-state recruiting advantage in one of the most fertile areas for talent that almost no other school enjoys.
I don't think I can name too many job openings that were set up better to succeed after firing a coach. The only one I can think of is OSU and Urban Meyer, but OSU did not fire Tressel for performance. USC and PSU have both been dealing with crippling NCAA sanctions. Michigan has nowhere near the in-state recruiting base that Texas has. Florida was a bigger mess than Texas, and their chief rival, FSU, was coming off winning the BCS National Championship and making the playoffs. But none of these coaching hires have struggled the way Strong has so far despite what looks like jobs that required more rebuilding.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Exactly my point||
Any time a coach is getting fired, there is some sort of mess to clean up or he wouldn't have gotten fired in the first place. Texas has way too many built in advantages to be struggling the way they are right now. There are no NCAA sanctions. And people talking about a rotten foundation under Mack Brown forget what Texas football was before him.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Rebuilding job?||
I don't think the Texas job was a rebuilding job. Their record in Mack Brown's last 3 seasons: 8-5, 9-4, & 8-5. Mack Brown had ONE losing season in 16 years. Charlie Strong has surpassed that in 2 years. In the spectrum of job openings where a coach is fired or forced to resign, Texas was about as good a job as it gets. If Texas was a rebuilding job, then everything other job opening up after a firing is a natural disaster.
|2 days 6 hours ago||No||
I am pretty sure Strong purged Mack Brown's coaching staff with his own hires. I think TE coach Bruce Chambers who was fired after 2014 may have been the only holdover, but he was fired after Strong's first season. And I think he may have only kept Chambers initially due to his strong connections to Texas high school football coaches.
|2 days 6 hours ago||Agreed||
This is just a scare tactic by the Democratic governor who is trying to get his tax plan passed in the Republican state congress. I think he is just trying to play this card to win public perception for his plan.
|2 days 6 hours ago||It's Texas||
It's Texas. They have a strong in-state recruiting base, and I think the some of the problems and transfers at Texas A&M helped them as well. Supposedly, Strong and Brian Jean-Mary were heavily involved with the recruiting down the stretch, but I am not surprised Texas did well in recruiting Texas. Some kids are going to want to stay home even if they are walking into what looks like a dumpster fire.
And as well as Texas did, they still only landed ONE of the top 10 players in-state based on 247Composite, and only 5 of the top 25 players.
|1 week 3 days ago||It's a university||
Innocent until proven guilty has nothing to do with this. The standard for a university and a scholarship should be above whether or not someone is convicted of a crime. Even the Title IX guidelines are above that (see Brendan Gibbons or Logan Tuley-Tillman). I have seen many students expelled from schools for things they were never able to establish in a court of law.
|1 week 3 days ago||Mecole Hardman postscript||
Not sure how accurate this is, but it sounds like Michigan finished #2 for Mecole Hardman. I think this is a testament to how well our staff killed it in recruiting this year
|1 week 3 days ago||I don't know if we can even do it every year||
I was just about to post about some of the hurdles to add Notre Dame with our new B1G schedule with MSU & OSU home during odd years. Notre Dame used to be home odd years with OSU. I would guess we would try to avoid overloading our even years with road games to ND, MSU, & OSU. The problem with that is ND usually tries to schedule Michigan at home during even years to avoid getting Michigan & USC in the same cycle as they get USC at home during odd years like we do with OSU & MSU now.
A solution to this would be to avoid playing the ND game annually& maybe play it every couple years BUT only odd years.
|1 week 4 days ago||What is the salt going to taste like when UM starts winning?||
So much salt from the Spartan players & fans today. And they have beaten Michigan 7 of the last 8 years. I can't imagine what it is going to be like when Michigan starts winning again.
|1 week 4 days ago||Guess what? I was right.||
1st crystal ball has came in for Clemson. Just like I told you it eventually would.
|1 week 5 days ago||I think they are oversaturated with Texas schools already||
If they expand, I think it is to expand their footprint for TV and recruiting. I don't see any benefit to adding Houston or SMU as it just upgrades 2 more schools in the Texas recruiting pool.
|1 week 5 days ago||If I were the Big 12, I would add Cincinnati, UCF, USF, & UConn||
UCF & USF would get them exposure into the Florida recruiting pool. Cincinnati gives Iowa State & West Virginia some partners in the Midwest.
|1 week 5 days ago||I don't||
Be careful what you wish for. It may hurt Ohio State a little, but I think it would hurt us as well. Despite not having any recruits in Ohio this year, it has been an area historically that Michigan has recruited hard.
I don't think it would have the same effect as Texas A&M opening up Texas for the SEC, but I don't think you want to open up the Midwest to another conference. Iowa St, West Virginia, & Cincinnati would give the Big 12 a presence in the Midwest even if they are the last 3 schools that would get taken if there were a draft of schools from the Midwest.
|1 week 5 days ago||Did I miss Gary's announcement?||
There is still time for someone to play with their Ballz before Signing Day and flip to Clemson. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple Clemson ones come in the last 24 hours.
|1 week 5 days ago||The one issue I have with this one||
Bars made an early commitment in the spring almost a year before Signing Day with no formal announcement. I don't think it is legal to play with premature adolescent Ballz. The Ballz did not have enough time to mature.
|1 week 5 days ago||And I hate to remind people of this bad memory||
Look at Da'Shawn Hand's old Ballz. 86% Michigan.
|1 week 5 days ago||This is assuming it stays this way||
If the choice ends up being Clemson, you could see still some last minute Crystal Ballz flips tomorrow before his decision. I don't know when the ballz lock though.
|1 week 5 days ago||I guess I will put this here then||
Devin Asiasi's Crystal Ball just got interesting. Michigan is now the favorite with some heavy hitters coming in for us now:
|1 week 5 days ago||It doesn't look like Hardman||
I think OSU has a better chance of landing Hardman than we do, and most recruiting reporters don't think they have much of a shot based on the 247 Crystal Ballz.
|1 week 5 days ago||Did I even mention the video in my post?||
I think I was pretty clear in my post that this has nothing to do with the quality of the video at all. I don't think I even mentioned the video at all in my post.
|1 week 5 days ago||Assuming he commits to Michigan||
People have speculated that it is Viramontes, and there really aren't any other candidates based on the info he dropped at the time unless it is someone completely off our radar.
I just hate when people hype stuff up unnecessarily the way these two have. Viramontes still hasn't committed yet, and if he somehow doesn't end up at Michigan, this is going to blow up in his face like MGoFish.
|1 week 5 days ago||The worst part about it has been MGoFish doubling down||
I could have lived with him apologizing for overhyping his announcement at a time when most fans are on edge because of Signing Day, but doubling down by trying to lecture people on what "break the internet" means was when he lost all credibility for me. The dude was just trolling for hits & publicity and has shown zero remorse for playing with fans' emotions and wasting their time.
|1 week 5 days ago||If there is no silent commitment||
If there is no silent commitment, Brandon C Justice is going suffer the same fate as Garrett Fishaw (MGoFish). Ann Arbor Torch & Pitchfork restocked last night and is ready to go.
|1 week 6 days ago||Texas was not very good for about 15 years||
The perception of Texas football has changed significantly since Mack Brown and the formation of the Big 12. Texas football was pretty mediocre for most of the 1980s and 90s before the Big 12 was formed.
Unfortunately, I think that is the way a lot of us are going to look back on the last decade of Michigan football. It was pretty bleak for us between 2007-2015. I guess Texas has probably been even worse than us the last 5-6 years though.
|1 week 6 days ago||6/104 = 6%||
Tom Brady has played in the most Super Bowls of any player, but he is still only 6% of the total appearances. There are a lot of good Michigan players besides Brady who also contributed to this total. Michigan would still rank #7 without Brady's contribution.
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||There's a reason for that||
Marshall takes a lot of academic non-qualifiers. Most schools do not allow props, and many conferences have rules against accepting them. Marshall does allow them. They had six non-qualifiers sit out in 2014.
Marshall had EIGHT non-qualifiers sitting out in 2013:
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I don't want to get my hopes up but this makes sense||
Look at Brandon Justice's recent follows. There are some Asiasi family members in there.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This guy||
By the way, the Colts went on to win this game scoring 3 touchdowns in the final 5 minutes as Rosenfels had 2 fumbles and an INT in those last 5 minutes. It was glorious.
Also, Marlin Jackson is player #1 in this play:
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Allen Lazard would like to have a word with you||
Everyone wanted that kid a couple years ago. He's a stud on their team and would be a household name if he played at a bigger school.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Something to keep in mind||
His dad, Terry Allen, was raised in Iowa, played at Northern Iowa, and was the head coach at Northern Iowa during the 1990s. He was an assistant at Iowa State in the early 2000s. Not sure if this has anything to do with this, but I also don't think it is totally random. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a lot of family and friends there. From his Missouri State bio:
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Or this||
Sage Rosenfels negative recruits on Twitter for Iowa State like crazy fan:
|2 weeks 3 days ago||That was my understanding of the B1G rule as well||
Michigan only needs to be at 88 on Signing Day as long as you have a plan to get to 85. Ohio State did this last year:
Ohio State was actually at 91 at Signing Day, but Meyer then medicaled 3 players to get to 88. I am guessing Harbaugh gets to 88 and sorts the rest out after Spring Practice. There may be some players who decide to transfer after given a chance to compete and see where they are on the depth chart. Decisions on some 5th years may be made at that time as well.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Ace is the best||
|2 weeks 4 days ago||That is my understanding as well||
Everything I have seen reported from Michigan reporters is that the coaches were caught by surprise by this and were expecting him in this class. Another odd thing is that it looks like he took an official visit to Maryland without it getting reported anywhere or him posting publicly about it on Twitter like many recruits do. I don't know whether the visit happened before he decommitted, but it looks like it did.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Agreed||
It sounded like he wanted to enroll early similar to David Reese especially to rehab after ACL surgery. I thought he initally had planned to enroll early at Michigan but that option got taken off the table in November-December. I think he was disappointed by it even though he had stuck with Michigan to this point.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I have a pretty good guess who the source is: Daishon Neal||
If he is talking about a current Nebraska player that Michgan recruited under Harbaugh, there are pretty much only 2 players that fit that description. And wouldn't you know it that one of those players and his father combined for the most ridiculous negative Michigan-related recruiting story last year:
The writer is from Omaha, the same town that Daishon Neal's family is from.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Change the thread title to "Potato"||
It will live if you change it to potato.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||I upvoted you for avoiding linking Rosenberg||
I upvoted you for linking an article that summarized Michael Rosenberg's piece so I could avoid him. Smooth. Never forget Stretchgate.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Correct||
Mark Blaudschun was the long-time Boston Globe national college football writer back when newspapers could afford to have national college football writers. I think he still has a lot of contacts on the East coast so I would not be surprised if this story is true as well as Warde Manuel is the AD at UConn right now.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The gif actually cuts out the best part at the end|
|3 weeks 4 days ago||And grabbed the 2012 Sugar Bowl Trophy on his way out the door||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I thought about switching gifs once I saw the double post||
I thought about switching gifs once I saw the double post. But I liked it. This was the alternate:
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Beamer Ball?||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Beamer Ball||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Beamer Ball|
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Beamer Ball||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||It is late, but Signing Day is not a deadline||
It is late, but Signing Day is not a deadline. It is actually the beginning. He could theoretically take all 5 of his official visits and sign after Signing Day. I get what you are saying though as some schools he may have considered are now full. But I am guessing that will probably be more a kind way to avoid telling him they are just not interested anymore. Any school that is really interested in him will probably be able to find a way to make a spot for him.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||That's why I have mixed feelings on this||
I feel bad for the kid. The timing is poor and looks bad, but I think in the long run telling Swenson the truth now is better than having him transfer a year or two from now. If the coaches don't feel he fits or will be a contributor here, it is best to have that conversation now. Signing Day is only the first day you can sign. He can still take all 5 of his official visits and find a place where he is wanted. Some schools may be full, but I am guessing any school that is interested in him will have find a way make him fit.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not sure anymore||
Some of the most truly awful things you see on Twitter are posted by teenagers. Prime example would be the tweets @ Blake O'Neill after the MSU game.
In this case, I think most of the jokes will be coming from anyone wearing rival colors.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||That is not the assumption I think he is talking about||
It is the assumption that he has no option to remain in the class. I still think the most likely scenario here is that the staff offered to honor his scholarship offer but were honest about their assessment of his chances of playing at Michigan.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||This||
There are a lot of assumptions being made here. It's also possible the coaches offered to honor his scholarship offer but were honest about their assessment of his chances of seeing playing time at Michigan. It's important for Michigan to honor their commitments, but I also think it is just as important for the coaches to be honest with the prospects even if it is something they don't want to hear but may be better for them in the long run.
This is a conversation that I think happens all the time with players in postseason exit interviews. I would rather have the coaches be honest with him now & find a school that better fits him now than have to deal with this 2 years from now with a transfer that could have been avoided if they had been upfront with each other.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||There is a lot of assumptions here though||
This is a big problem I have with following recruiting too closely. I am guessing we will never know the full story because Michigan can't (and probably wouldn't anyway) comment, and the recruit probably doesn't want to talk about it. There is so much unknown here, and a lot of assumptions being made.
Does anyone know for certain that his scholarship got pulled? Is it possible that the coaching staff could have told him that his scholarship would be honored, but he would probably never see the field at Michigan and may want to pursue other options if playing football was important to him? This is a conversation that I think happens all the time with players in postseason exit interviews. I would never want to see Michigan pull a scholarship offer from a kid, but at the same time, wouldn't the coaches be doing him a disservice if they weren't completely honest with him? I would think it would be better for both parties to be honest with each other now rather than have someone come into the program and have to transfer after a year or two because they avoided being upfront with each other. Isn't the best situation for both parties here to offer to honor the scholarship if he wants Michigan but be truthful about his prospects for his football career here? And how do we know that isn't the scenario that is playing out right now?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||It's video of the Steelers impression of the DJ Khaled snapchat||
Can't link the DJ Khaled snapchat so I had to settle with the Steelers impression of it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If anyone is wondering what inspired this||
If anyone is wondering what inspired this
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Business is booming||
|3 weeks 5 days ago||It's also a reminder of how bad the ACC was pre-expansion||
The ACC was FSU and a bunch of tomato cans before they raided the Big East to add Miami (FL), VT, & BC. Maryland dropped off at the exact time the ACC expanded. Those Big East teams have fallen on some hard times now, but when they were added, they were 3 of the 5 best teams in the ACC in the 5 years following expansion.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||And he had similar comments about the weather in Columbus||
He is retweeting a bunch of OSU stuff today, but I think he is just enjoying his visits & doing his due diligence by seeing some of the best football schools. I would be surprised if he ended up anywhere other than Alabama or Georgia.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Urban the Opportunist||
I don't know if I have ever seen a coach plunder schools with coaching changes in January better than Urban Meyer. He destroyed PSU's class in 2012 and has done the same to Maryland this year.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think the NFL has been a negative for MSU||
Despite the recent on-field success, I actually believe MSU has put out few quality NFL players relative to their team record. They have had a couple DBs drafted in the 1st round the last 2 years, but you would have expected more.
Quite honestly, I don't think they have had much more NFL success than Michigan during Dantonio's tenure. My theory behind this is that most of his players had maxed out in college by redshirting and playing 5 years while a lot of NFL players hit the league after 3 or 4 years of college. Some of his program success has been rooted in playing with teams loaded with 5-year players. I don't think there will be a significant shift here until he starts recruiting better. This may change in the next couple years with players like Jack Conklin and Malik McDowell, and 2016 will be the best recruiting class he has had to date.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan did take a long time to offer||
It's a top 11, not a final 11. There is over a year left in this recruitment so Michigan still has a lot of time to make up ground if he is one of their top targets.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I was responding to your OP||
I was responding to your OP. Read it again. It is not what you are saying here. I was responding to why Dantonio or Onwenu would waste the time and effort.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||If I were a big-time recruit, I would take all 5 of my visits||
Onwenu worked hard to earn this opportunity. If I were a big-time recruit, I would take all 5 of my official visits even if I were committed to a school. He only gets this opportunity once so why shouldn't he make the most of it?
The only problem I would have here is if he didn't talk to Michigan's coaches first. But I imagine he probably had a long conversation with them before going public with this.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Who said he would flip?||
I guess I don't understand your point here. What are you trying to say then?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think winning has a lot to do with it||
MSU has been winning games and have beaten Michigan 7 of the last 8 years. Pretty much finished in the top 5 in the last 3 years. Kids want to play for a winner. I think once Michigan starts winning more on the field, these recruitments will be a little easier.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Why wouldn't Dantonio continue to recruit him?||
Do you think Michigan & Harbaugh stopped recruiting Corley even though he was probably never going to come here? Onwenu is highly-rated in-state recruit. You are not doing your job well if you don't continue to recruit those kids until they sign their letter of intent.
Is there a small chance he changes his mind on an official visit? Yes. I would guess they will try to use peer pressure given the amount of Detroit kids that have ended up at MSU in the last 2 years. But I think the odds are pretty good he stays with Michigan given how long he has been committed here.
Who knows? It may actually end up being a benefit to Michigan to have a commit in East Lansing while Lavert Hill is on his official visit.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||To take a free trip to hang out with his friends?||
I'm sure he has friends & former teammates at MSU. Not ideal, but I don't think this is anything to freak out over.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That was my biggest concern||
That was my biggest concern, but I had a hard time believing he would make a lateral move after only one year even if it is his alma mater. I am still disappointed John Baxter did it.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Khaleke Hudson as well||
Hudson visits PSU this weekend I believe.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||How often can someone change their pick?||
Nice to see you here again, Steve. How often can someone change their pick and how long is it locked? Also, do you guys have a lockout time before a scheduled announcement?
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Good analogy||
That is a good analogy
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think you need to look at both||
The one problem with looking at % only is that a lot of people will put their pick or switch their pick in the last 24 hours before an announcment after someone else has broken the story. The record book shows they got the pick right, but there really was no value in the pick though. I do think they need a better way to present the score though points per crystal ball prediction or something like that.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||His dad is former Kansas HC Terry Allen||
His dad is former Kansas HC Terry Allen. That picture does look a lot like him so I think your guess is right.
Here is photo of him from his Kansas days:
|4 weeks 30 min ago||Pretty close. "Not like our normal guys"||
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I don't think 2017 is going to be a defining year||
We are going to lose a lot of players in 2017, and it is hard not to take a step back after that. I think next year is a lot more important for the future of the program. Having a big year in 2016 will solidify Michigan nationally and hopefully lead to another big recruiting class in 2017. The 2016 & 2017 recruiting classes are going to be the backbone of Michigan's future going forward.
For that reason, I think LB (Devin Bush Jr) is the most important recruit as it is the biggest hole on the roster for 2016 after QB.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Sorry man, didn't mean to come off so harsh||
Sorry, didn't mean to come back at you so harshly. I just think some of the projections are starting to get a little crazy from the Mel Kiper article. I don't think there is any truly insider information except the family stuff. I just don't think this decision is that difficult if he received a 1st or 2nd grade, and almost no draft board has him in the top 40. If he isn't in the top 40, it is going to be real hard to make the 2nd Round especially with how deep the DL class is this year. Not impossible, but I would bet against it right now.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||And do you have any evidence to back up yours?||
Do you have any evidence to back up yours? Or just a hunch as well? Just because someone declared for the NFL Draft does not mean they had a 1st or 2nd Round grade which is the conclusion you drew. There is far more evidence that supports my line of reasoning than yours based on insiders reports about his family's situation and any look at a draft board. Nowhere does Henry talk about the Draft Advisory Board recommendation. He talks about taking advice from Frank Clark, family, & high school coaches.
I guess we will find out in April, but I am more than willing to put my money where my mouth is that Henry will not be drafted in the 1st 2 rounds.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I don't think so at all||
I am betting the NFL Draft Advisory Board told him to go back to school. They changed how they give out grades: 1st, 2nd, or go back to school. I doubt he got a 1st or 2nd grade.
I think he probably has family with financial concerns, and as a RS Junior feels ready to try and make a living, especially if he gets his degree this semester.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||And Mike Martin was barely a 3rd Round pick||
I think some of these projections are getting a little out of control.
I understand that he most likely left for financial reasons, and as a RS Junior, he probably either has his degree or is very close to it so I can see why he would be ready to leave. But his decision had little to do with where he is projected to get drafted as I am guessing the NFL Draft Advisory Board probably told him to return to school.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I highly doubt it||
The DL class is pretty deep this year. And there is one less pick in the 1st Round this year as the Patriots lost theirs after Deflategate/Ballghazi. IMO, I think even the 2nd round is a stretch.
Draft analysts have a tendency to have a much larger pool of players who could be potential 1st or 2nd round draft picks that the actual draft slots available. To make even the 2nd round, Henry would have to be one of the top 63 players. The only way I see that happening is if he knocks it out of the park at the Combine and Pro Day.
I mean Henry was only Honorable Mention All-Big Ten. Not that this is an accurate measure of draft potential, but almost every single player above him on that team is in this draft: Joey Bosa, Yannick Ngakoue, Shilique Calhoun, Carl Nassib, Maliek Collins, Adolphus Washington, Dean Lowry, Austin Johnson, Anthony Zettel, & Nate Meier. And that is his competition from just the Big Ten. At least half of those guys are not going to get drafted in the top 63 picks.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Number of factors||
They had a disappointing 7-6 season followed by Franklin firing his OC. His DC and OL coach both make a lateral moves and leave PSU last week leading to instability on the staff and the coaches who originally recruited their class. Add in a couple decommitments and other commits scheduing visits, and you get here. 18-year olds can be pretty fickle, and if they see a bunch of other kids in their class jumping ship or looking at lifeboats, it can snowball pretty fast.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think that is what Ace is saying||
The point Ace is making is because Allen and Glasgow are both technically walk-ons, they can be accounted for differently on Signing Day and allow Michigan to treat them as non-scholarship players in 2016-17 season for accounting purposes this spring without ever really coming off scholarship. This will allow Michigan to sign 2 more recruits in this class. 5th-year players and other players contemplating transferring would be allowed to compete for playing time during Spring practice, see where they land on the depth chart, and make a final decision about staying at Michigan. Most likely this will see 2 or more players transfer this summer. Allen and Glasgow would then be moved back to scholarship status for the 2016 season at that time. But this would really have no effect on Allen or Glasgow's scholarship.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I think this is more to do with the price of oil||
Qatar has to tighten up their spending with oil prices plumetting. Al Jazeera was just a luxury they could spend their wealth on. I don't think they were in the media business to turn a profit or attract viewers. They just wanted their own news network.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Really hard to come up with a good comparison for Earl Morrall||
Great player but played second fiddle to Johnny Unitas on the Colts and Bob Griese on the Dolphins. Closest I can think of is maybe Steve Bono?
Best backup QB of all time? Probably fitting that he is the best MSU QB of all-time. A solid player overshadowed by HOF QBs.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||No, but few schools do||
There are only 32 starting QBs in the NFL. Pretty hard to have multiple ones at one time. Right now, only Texas A&M, MSU, and BC have 2 starting QBs in the NFL. And Hasselbeck only has the starting job because Andrew Luck got hurt this year, and I don't think Johnny Manziel is going to be in Cleveland much longer.
I guess NC State could make a case for two if they count Russell Wilson as their own.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I think Earl Morrall would like to have a talk with you||
Or Tony Banks.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Chad Henne||
Honestly, both Michigan schools are way above average right now for NFL QBs. Neither has anything to be ashamed about.
Getting QBs to the NFL is extremely hard.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||So because someone else started a bad topic||
So because someone else started a bad topic, I should start one too?
I don't think there is anything too terrible with the post, but IMO it probably didn't need its own discussion topic. If you venture down into the NFC Wild Card Games thread, there is a healthy amount of MSU QB schadenfreude going on in there.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Don't think this is really threadworthy||
|4 weeks 6 days ago||You like that?||
I am guessing this is (hopefully) the last we hear of this. I will at least use the remix here:
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Have to give him credit||
He's been better than I expected. For most of this season, I thought he had preyed on a weak division, but he came to play today. I am still not sold on him as a franchise QB though.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Sparty QBs so far through Wild Card Weekend||
Sparty QBs so far through Wild Card Weekend: 4 INTs, 4 Fumbles (2 lost). Still one half to go for Cousins to add to the INT total.
Hoyer: 0 TDs. 4 INTs, 2 Fumbles (1 lost)
Cousins: 1 TD. 0 INTs, 2 Fumbles (1 lost)
|5 weeks 18 hours ago||Look at the record I posted above||
Butch Jones is 1-8 against Tennessee's primary rivals. He is 0-6 against the SEC West. He has never won the SEC East despite the fact that his two biggest division rivals are a mess and both just fired their head coaches in the last 2 years. If he can't win when Florida & Georgia are bottoming out, what happens when one or both of them turn it around?
He's recruited well and showed improvement late in 2015, but if he doesn't win big next year (at least 2-1 against Bama, FL, & UGA and an SEC East title), what exactly has he accomplished in 4 years?
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||Really? I see it totally different||
Butch Jones is desperate to win right now. I think he is on the hottest seat in the SEC in 2016. If Tennessee does not win the SEC East next year, I could see him getting fired.
Butch Jones is a combined 1-8 vs. Florida, Georgia, & Alabama. He's 0-6 vs. the SEC West. He's 1-2 vs. Mizzou. This is the weakest the SEC East has been in years, and he has still yet to win the division.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||I don't think so||
I think Franklin is safe at least until after the 2017 season. I don't think he is a good coach, but the NCAA sanctions put him at a disadvantage these 1st 2 years. They have relatively few upperclassmen, and it shows on the OL. But I think he has to start producing in these next 2 years.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||You would have to think less||
But PSU should be able to match that salary if they wanted to keep him. PSU should not be losing their DC to Tennessee.
Butch Jones is desperate right now though. 2016 is a make-or-break year for him; if Tennessee does not win the SEC East this year, I think he gets fired. I don't get why any good DC would want to be in that position though.
|5 weeks 20 hours ago||Not a good look for the B1G||
In just this offseason, Bob Shoop leaves PSU for Tennessee, and Dave Aranda leaves Wisconsin for LSU. You could make a case that both guys left for jobs where the head coach's job is less secure.
Add in Bret Bielema leaving Wisconsin for Arkansas in 2012 & Gary Andersen leaving Wisconsin for Oregon State last year. I guess most of the problem has been Wisconsin. What is Barry Alvarez doing there?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I thought Miller passed on a 5th year to pursue another career||
I thought Miller passed on a 5th year to pursue a different career outside of football. Interesting. Best of luck to him.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This guy has the answer|
|5 weeks 2 days ago||That's my take as well||
John Baxter has spent most of his coaching career on the West Coast. It's possible his family is happier there. I don't think you make a lateral move like this otherwise. It doesn't sound like there were any issues between him and Harbaugh or that he was being forced out due to performance.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||It's possible Jay Harbaugh takes over ST||
Jay Harbaugh is already listed as the assistant ST coach in addition to TE coach. It is possible Jay takes over ST and Partridge is strictly LB coach. Or they both split it. I would prefer an experienced ST coach, but I have faith Harbaugh knows what he is doing or has a plan.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I think his family still lives in LA||
Disappointed, but not surprised. I think his family still lives in LA or on the West Coast.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||If not next year, then when?||
2016 would have been the ideal year to have a marquee nonconference schedule. Yes, we are breaking in a new QB, but we are returning around 17 of 22 starters on a top-15 team. I don't know if it is because of how bad Michigan has been the last decade, but there is a fearfulness in our fanbase that needs to be exorcised.
And that nonconference schedule could be a hindrance when comparing resumes if we end up winning the conference. Way too early to assume anything about the playoff selection, but that SOS is not going to help. I would much rather have played the 2017 nonconference schedule with the Cowboys Classic (vs. Florida) next year rather than 2017. 2017 is the year with which we should be more concerned as our depth chart will look like Seth's diagram for OSU in 2016. But with Harbaugh, I am not that concerned about that right now.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||UCF was the WORST team in FBS this year||
UCF was the worst team in FBS this year. If you are concerned with UCF, you are concerned about any potential opponent in FBS.
Colorado has shown a pulse this year, but they are still one of the worst teams in the Power 5 conferences. And all these nonconference games are at home. It doesn't get any easier than 2016's nonconference schedule. If BiSB were making an early Opponent Watch for 2016, the Fear Level for these 3 games would be a 2 or less.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||"Favorable" may be putting it mildly||
That is the worst Michigan nonconference schedule that I can recall. Notre Dame chickening out on such short notice really screwed us for 2016.
2015 F/+ ratings (out of 128 FBS teams):
2014 5-year Program FEI ratings (which will undoubtedly drop significantly when the 2015 version is calculated given 2015 performance):
We were a little unlucky in how UCF became so terrible so fast. Their 5-year Program FEI is actually better than Michigan's (#47).
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Same here||
I personally think this Bluevod is a fraud. Anyone who is supposedly this well-connected inside the Michigan football program/AD wouldn't be broadcasting this stuff publicly over Twitter & message boards the way he does.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Nice||
There was a good quote in the Washington Post article on this topic:
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Which makes me think Pete Lembo was not in demand||
It's possible that many people were not that interested. It's not like Pete Lembo's resume screams, "hire me." Just because he was a former HC doesn't make him qualified to be a good position coach. It doesn't look like he has any experience as a coordinator. Similar to Brady Hoke, where do you go after that?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I think this is a little different||
When a head coach leaves for another head coaching job, he usually takes a chunk of his staff with him to the new job. Most football assistants have only 1-2 year contracts and have very little job security compared to the HC. Their job security is pretty much tied to the head coach. The Ball State assistant coaches are in a really tough position now. A new HC is probably going to want a lot of his own guys.
This looks more like a captain getting out before the firing squad and leaving the rest of the squad to die. Pete Lembo was going to be on the hot seat, and I think he saw his potential HC career dying at Ball State. There were also rumors of a lack of support for the football program dating back to Brady Hoke, but I still think this was a pretty cowardly way out to leave your assistants and players like that. I thought the same thing when Dan Enos cut and ran from CMU to take the Arkansas OC position.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Right class, wrong lineman prospect||
That was Riley Norman. Same Class of 2013 as Cameron Dillard. He ended up attending MSU for Track & Field for shotput or discus I think.
Cameron Dillard was the one who trained with Mike Barwis.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||One more thing I find fascinating about Don Brown at BC||
Including Don Brown, there were only 4 out of the 10 coaches tasked to coaching defense at Boston College. And one of the four had to coach Special Teams as well!
Don Brown - DC/LB
BC had 6 coaches full time on offense (I am including Addazio in this number because offense is his background).
Another interesting nugget: Coleman Hutzler got his start in coaching with Jim Harbaugh as a graduate assistant at University of San Diego and then followed him to Stanford.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Yes - Canton, MI Class of 2013||
I was just about to edit my comment to add his recruiting profile. This was in response to 3-star prospects from the state of Michigan that did not get any offers from UM or MSU.
Also, Valdez Showers was class of 2011 I believe. Strange that Showers, Dillard, and now David Reese all end up at Florida.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Cameron Dillard||
Starting center for the same Florida Gators that Michigan will be facing next week. Michigan and MSU both passed on offering him, but he got some fairly big time offers and ended up at Florida. Should be another interesting subplot to the bowl game.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||I thought this as well at first||
I thought this as well at first, but I think he just needs a clean start. I read somewhere that he had been away from the team and campus taking classes online this semester and being on campus has been tough for him. I think letting his teammates and other students down at Florida was probably tough on him, and if 2016 went poorly, he might have been the scapegoat for it all. I think he just needs to start over even if he will have to sit out the beginning of 2017. He could still play football at a JC next year and transfer onto an FBS team in midyear, go through spring practice, and be ready for 2017 to play after game 6.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||No||
He has to sit out for a full season of games. So he is still suspended for another 6 games. I think he could play at a JC during a year off while waiting to transfer though.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Especially with the number of starters Michigan will be losing||
The Will Grier transfer could have a big effect on the 2017 Cowboys Classic opener for Michigan. Florida's starting QB in that game is now looking like 2016 recruit Feleipe Franks, Treon Harris, or a true freshman from the 2017 recruiting class, assuming they don't look for a transfer this offseason. Could potentially be a huge break down the road for a Michigan team that will be breaking in a lot of new starters in 2017.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||I'd be surprised if Michigan had 2 transfers this offseason||
Certainly possible, but I think it's pretty unlikely given Beilein's history. 2012 looks more like the exception than the rule. And with Albrecht out for the season, there are some guys who may have been transfer candidates that are going to see more playing time now.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Yes but that still isn't enough||
Michigan is already oversigned by one scholarship for next year. There had been some talk of Austin Davis taking a prep year when he first committed, but it actually looks less likely that is going to happen. Michigan is most likely going to have someone transfer off the current roster. To make room for Spike next year, Michigan would need two transfers or one transfer+one signee taking a prep year. I just think that is unlikely to happen.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Is Michigan going to have a scholarship for him?||
I don't know if Michigan is going to have scholarship available for Spike. Right now, Michigan is already oversigned by one scholarship for next year. I am assuming Michigan has no candidates for early entry to the NBA. So we already need one transfer from the current roster or one of our current signees opting for a prep year just to make it to 13 scholarships for next year. I highly doubt we are going to have two transfers this offseason, but who knows.
Add in that Michigan is probably going to want to get Xavier Simpson some run next year behind Derrick Walton to prepare him to take over in 2017. If Albrecht wants to play another year, I actually think it is more likely he will do it at another school as hard as that will be to watch.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||It was a terrible fit for him||
Not surprised. OSU's offense was a terrible fit for him. I was pretty shocked when he chose OSU in the first place.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't read too much into it||
This happens all the time. Usually one elite offer triggers the rest of the programs that may have been slow playing him to offer. I am guessing he was on the radar of a lot of schools late, but some of them were waiting to see how their board shook out before offering. I think that is also the reason Michigan waited until the dead period to offer (I think Steve Lorenz had mentioned that).
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Not sure how some of my sentence got cut out. LOL.||
It was supposed to read the way his USF tenure ended was "pretty ugly." EDIT: His wrongful termination suit was settled with USF so I guess he really didn't win it.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||An NFL hire may not be limited to just coordinators though||
Most likely an NFL DC coordinator or Chuck Pagano if Michigan hired from the NFL, but a position coach is still a possibility. For example, former USC DC Clancy Pendergast is the LB coach for the 49ers.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Hoping for Dave Aranda||
Hoping for Dave Aranda, but I have faith that Harbaugh will get the DC we need. Been a long time I have had that kind of faith.
Jim Leavitt's resume is pretty solid, but the way his USF tenure ended was pretty makes me kind of hope we avoid him. Harbaugh was the one who gave him a second chance after getting fired in SF though so maybe there is more to it than what was reported or he would be more aware of any growth or change in character since the firing.
|9 weeks 21 hours ago||It's about having a good SOS and avoiding bad losses||
If you want to call it quality losses, fine. Texas may end up a quality win. They are surprisingly in the top 40 RPI right now without the UNC win added in. UNC was #1 in the RPI. RPI is terrible, but the committee still clings to it.
|9 weeks 21 hours ago||Xavier beat Cincy & UConn routed OSU today as well||
Those losses look much better today than they did at the time. Michigan still has a lot to improve on defense, but those are looking like some quality teams on our nonconference schedule.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Or this one||
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Oh hamburgers||
If he were still committed to Purdue, we could have used the "guy in wizard hat selling snake oil" to flip WR prospects line. Hopefully, Nate Johnson makes some plays as memorable as Roy Roundtree.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I still think what he did at Rutgers was pretty impressive||
Winning at Rutgers given their history of losing was impressive. But I think it also has to be put in perspective as well. Rutgers and Schiano started to win after Miami (FL), Virginia Tech, and Boston College left the Big East for the ACC. Rodriguez's WV program was the top dog during that period that also saw Randy Edsall turn UConn into a winner straight from FCS and Jim Leavitt build a USF program from scratch. I think the lower level of competition had a lot to do with it, but there were a lot of good to solid HCs in the Big East at that time in his defense (Rodriguez, Petrino, Dantonio, Brian Kelly, Leavitt, and Edsall).
|9 weeks 2 days ago||But when was he in charge of that side of the ball?||
Schiano was only a DC for 2 years at Miami (FL) with some of the most talented teams Miami has had. It's not like Schiano has a long track record as a DC. I think it is a good hire, but I don't get how Schiano developed this reputation as some kind of defensive whiz. Maybe it's because he's friends with Belichick from NJ. But not good enough as a coach for Belichick to offer him a job.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Hard to tell||
He has been out of football for 2 years, and he has not been a DC since 2000. He actually has only been a DC for 2 years total in his career (1999-2000). He has a great reputation for defense and coaching & turned Rutgers into a winner after the Big East got raided by the ACC (and I think that will help them in recruiting), but no one has offered him a HC job for 3 straight offseasons now. It's possible he has been waiting for the right offer and finally gave up on waiting. He was still getting paid by the Bucs.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Interesting hire||
Schiano is an interesting hire. Did some good work at Rutgers and has recruiting ties to NJ and FL. But he has also been out of football for 2 years now, hasn't been a DC since 2000, and I can't imagine he wants to stay a DC very long. Not sure there is a lot of upside to this hire. It will make NJ recruiting pretty interesting...
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Perfect gift for a Sparty fan||
A once-in-a-generation opportunity for a Sparty fan: http://www.espnfrontrow.com/2015/12/generation-tuxs-george-zimmer-espn-collaborate-on-new-years-eve-collection/
EDSBS breaks them down here: http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2015/12/11/9888828/the-curious-index-is-a-fashion-expert
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I think that is possible||
I think that is possible and probably part of it. Georgia doesn't want him to be recruiting against them especially when Kirby Smart will not start on the job until January. Pruitt will only be able to keep that money until he is officially released and another DC is named at Georgia. Why is Georgia (and Smart) letting him go though?
The 3 prime DC jobs in the Southeast this offseason are Alabama, Georgia, and FSU/Auburn (depends if report is true that Auburn is hiring FSU DC)--all from the Saban tree and all places Pruitt coached.
I would assume if he is as good as people are saying he is or if Saban really wanted him back at Alabama, Kirby Smart would want to keep him at Georgia? Smart has experience working with Pruitt under him at Alabama, and I assume he could smooth out any issues if it was UGA administration that had a problem with Pruitt. So it seems like there is more here than just the contract. FSU is also coached by someone from the Saban coaching tree where Pruitt first moved up to DC and won a national championship in 2013. If Alabama and FSU were both hot for Pruitt, wouldn't Smart want to keep him? Smart should know Pruitt better than anyone else, and if he passes there has to be other issues with Pruitt.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||The Shannon one is surprising to me||
Not surprised that he didn't end up at Michigan, but I am surprised he hasn't taken a job somewhere else given the number of good DC jobs available right now. He is technically the associate HC and co-DC at Florida, but he is not the one calling the shots on defense. Hard to see how staying there will help him get back to another HC position. I would think the other DC, Geoff Collins, would be the hot name if Florida has a lot of success, but I guess we'll see. His position right now seems analogous to Luke Fickell at OSU except Shannon is actually in demand.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Not disappointed by this||
I was always skeptical that he would end up at Michigan, and insiders at his last 2 employers had some mixed reviews on him as a person despite the results on the field. There was that incident at the end of this year where supposedly UGA administration or Richt wanted him out. At FSU, there were rumors that he had off-the-field issues that led to him making a lateral move to UGA in 2014. May have been sour grapes, who knows.
This will be his 4th different school in 5 years though, and the last 3 are all going to be lateral moves. A little bit of a red flag especially considering the 3 previous employers (Alabama, FSU, & Georgia) all are without DCs right now, and it does not seem like any of them are trying that hard to get him back. Could be some gamesmanship between Pruitt and Georgia as he has no buyout and is owed $2.6 million over the next two years, but something just doesn't smell right here either way.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||The market for defensive coordinators this year is unreal||
Good time to be a DC looking for work or a raise. Right now, the following schools are all looking for defensive coordinators: Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, USC, and FSU (if this report is true). And that is not counting schools with new hires that have to fill out a new staff like Georgia and Miami (FL).
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think that is what the OP meant to say||
If this happens during UNLV week, Peppers misses as least half the season. This is not a one week injury if the report is true. Not great to have him miss the bowl, but I would rather take that than have him miss a chunk of the regular season.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Agreed||
Terrible news if true, but the bright side is the timing is probably the best for something like this. If this happens during the season he misses around 6 games or more with this injury. He may miss the bowl game, but he will most likely be back for spring practice and should be good to go for 2016.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||It's a quote from Pineapple Express||
I'm more chill than you.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I was going to post that||
But I thought people would misinterpret that as whining again.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I guess I was using reporter speak||
UGA has not made an official announcement yet, but Smart is done.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Just a pet peeve||
Repeat posts on this board are the reason why things are so hard to find. A simple site search before posting is not too much to ask especially when news is more than a day old.
The most annoying thing on this board are the grammar Nazis in my opinion though.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I'm chill. I'm chill as a cucumber, man.||
C'mon man. You overlooked the first result for Richt Miami?
|10 weeks 2 days ago||It's been a trend this coaching search||
It's been a trend this coaching search for alum hires, and I am wondering if it is the Harbaugh effect. Richt to Miami. Odom to Mizzou. Reportedly, Smart to UGA.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||And?||
I'm not sure why the official announcement matters at all. Every coaching search has an official announcement/press conference 24-48 hours after the actual hire has already been reported, but I've never seen anyone add an extra forum on here for an official announcement of a coach that was non-Michigan related. Richt had been reported done to Miami 48 hours ago, and this news actually overshadowed the Durkin hire nationally and was the front page story on ESPN yesterday. I posted the 1st thread 2 days ago. Site search is your friend.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||This smells like Rich Rod's agent||
His name has been thrown out for a couple jobs that I don't think he was ever seriously considered for.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Mike DeBord||
This was my guess as well. Brady Hoke is the last assistant to leave Michigan for a HC job, but Mike DeBord is the last Michigan coordinator to leave Michigan for a HC job.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||How so?||
Dantonio left Tressel & OSU for MSU in pre-division B1G. I think the reason this doesn't happen often is that intradivisional schools will rarely look to hire an assistant from a rival as head coach not because those assistants are not interested. I don't think this is a huge deal. Maryland is a good job for a young coach with no head coaching experience. It just happened to work out that it was in the same division and conference as Michigan. I actually think it will be a good thing to have a coaching staff friendly to Michigan in the conference and division.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Which insider?||
I haven't seen this reported anywhere.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I am guessing you would want to make the hire before Dead Period||
Recruiting Dead Period runs from December 14th to January 13th. Coaches can only have phone and written communication during this period. Ideally, you would hope to have a DC before then, but I don't think it would be a huge issue if most of the staff is intact. Most of the recruits left on our board are probably not going to decide until January anyway.
This is going to be an interesting year with the amount of coaching turnover nationally. I don't think Michigan is the only school that is going to have to deal with this. Actually, Michigan's coaching staff may be considered relatively stable compared to what is going on around the rest of the country if Durkin ends up being the only coach we lose. And it is probably better this happens now than have to be scrambling to fill positions late in the hiring cycle.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||No||
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I could see Zordich and Fisch, not Jackson||
Zordich was at Youngstown State before Harbaugh hired him. If Durkin offered him a DC or associate HC position, I could see him leave as he doesn't have that many ties to Harbaugh or the current staff. Remember he was the last hire made.
Fisch has a lot of college experience and is one of the lowest paid assistants on the staff due to his Jaguars buyout. If another school offered him the OC position, I could see him leaving.
The price of having good assistant coaches is that other schools will try to poach them. Harbaugh went through it before at Stanford. Look at how many assistant coaches (especially OC) Saban has gone through at Alabama.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Not likely||
The only guys I would be worried about would be any recruit that was already considering Maryland like Terrance Davis or Maryland-native commits like Devery Hamilton. But I think it is unlikely he would try to poach someone that was already committed to Michigan.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||He coached with Harbaugh for 5 years||
If Michigan can match or top his salary with the Bears, there is probably a lot more job security at Michigan than in the NFL. The only question would be if he wants to deal with the other job requirements of college football (recruiting).
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not worried about NJ recruiting at all||
Harbaugh is still here. Chris Partridge is still here. I think the Durkin loss will only affect us in Florida. I think Devin Bush Jr. is the only prospect to be worried about right now. It could have a small effect on some national recruits, but I doubt it. I am guessing any prospect who uses this as a reason to not come to Michigan probably wasn't going to end up here anyway.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Don't think Hackett will have much to do with the hire||
Hackett's only role here is probably to approve the salary and run a background check before signing off. The head coach usually calls all the shots when it comes to filling out his staff.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Couple thoughts||
1. Looking back on this season as a whole, Durkin did a solid job, but I don't think this is a huge loss. Michigan's defense got gashed and exposed down the stretch by competent offenses (Indiana & Ohio State), and some of our defensive numbers may have been inflated by going up against some mediocre offenses. The weakest part of our defense (LB) was coached by Durkin. May sound like sour grapes, but I think Harbaugh will be able to find a suitable replacement. Better this happen early in the coaching cycle than have to scramble late in the game. Congrats to Durkin on the job, but I have to wonder what Maryland is thinking here if this was the best they could do.
2. My bigger concern is trying to keep most of the staff intact and seeing if Durking tries to take any other assistant coaches with him. You would think Jay Harbaugh, Drevno, Wheatley, Mattison, Greg Jackson, and John Baxter are probably not leaving unless they get a serious promotion. The only guys I would be worried about are probably Jedd Fisch and Mike Zordich.
3. Some people owe Mark Blaudschun an apology. As I posted in the thread when he first broke this story, he may be a dinosaur, but he has been a college football beat writer for a long time with a lot of contacts especially on the East Coast. I was skeptical of the report at the time, but I knew he probably wouldn't post something like that unless he had some inside info.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Northwestern on paper looks good||
They have some solid wins on their resume with Stanford, Wisconsin, and Duke. Their wins look better than ours, both of their losses are to top 15 teams, and they have one fewer loss. On paper, that looks pretty good, but watching them and looking at the advanced stats, Michigan is clearly the better team.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Ole Miss ahead of Florida||
If Alabama beats Florida, Ole Miss will go to the Sugar Bowl. That would leave either Florida or LSU to fill the Citrus Bowl where Michigan is most likely headed.
OSU at #6. Could be a huge drop for the loser of the B1G Championship Game as the next highest ranked team will go to the Rose Bowl. I wonder if the committee would still leave the loser ahead of OSU.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||This was a preseason top 10 team||
It's not like he went 5-2 with Colorado's roster. USC is littered with future NFL players, and Helton is working with more than most coaches in college football right now. Their roster is young, but they returned a bunch of starters from last year.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Mora also won the previous 3 games||
Both teams have been pretty decimated by injuries this year so I am not reading too much into this one game. If Helton can upset Stanford this weekend, I think he may get a bump from that, but I am guessing the Helton hire was a best case scenario for UCLA.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Not sure I agree||
This isn't like Lloyd Carr. I don't know if promoting from within in a program in disarray will provide stability. It's not like Clay Helton has been at USC for a long time like Lloyd Carr when he got promoted from interim. He's only been there for 5 years which happened to be a complete mess with Kiffin and Sark. I think they needed to clean house there. I will be interested to see what kind of contract they give him and if they put their money behind their words. I have a feeling this is going to be like Illinois & Minnesota where he may get a contract with a lot of outs for USC after 2 years.
I don't know what USC's other options were, but I think a top 10 job would attract some decent candidates even if you had to settle for a second choice. My question to you: do you think Helton will still be the coach at USC in 2020?
|10 weeks 6 days ago||I think that had already been going on with how Sark was handled||
I don't think it had the sheer force of Michigan against Brandon, but USC is a private school. But there have been a lot of rumblings about how Haden has looked pretty incompetent in his hiring of Sarkisian and how he handled the incident at the Salute to Troy before the season began.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Keyshon Camp||
Keyshon Camp is currently a USC commit. I think he was high on the current coaching staff and Helton so this may actually make it harder to flip him. But long term, I think this is good for Michigan in CA recruiting.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Wow||
If USC had trouble finding a suitable candidate, then things are really going to get interesting for some of these other schools looking to make a hire. I wonder if they are taking the Illinois approach and punting on a job search for couple years. I guess USC should always get players so it is unlikely the cupboard will be bare, but this could open the door for UCLA and Jim Mora the next couple years.
|11 weeks 2 hours ago||I am still skeptical but Blaudschun is an established reporter||
I am still skeptical of the report, but Mark Blaudschun covered college football for a long time with the Boston Globe. He is not some random egg on Twitter.
|11 weeks 2 hours ago||Good for him if true||
I am guessing Maryland drew from the Under Armour bank account when making this hire so good for Durking if true. Always good to have your coaching tree grow.
As for Michigan, I am not worried. With so much coaching staff turnover this season nationally, I think Harbaugh won't have much trouble finding a DC with the money Michigan is paying coordinators and the veteran defense that is returning. It seems like it would be a prime job opportunity.
|11 weeks 2 hours ago||IBD||
|11 weeks 3 hours ago||I think you can make an argument for Georgia||
I don't think it is as clear cut as you make it out to be. There is possibly as deep or deeper pool of prospects in Georgia with Florida also right next door. Add in that the bar for success is pretty low as Georgia has not won the SEC in 10 years, and the SEC East is pretty weak right now. I think there is more pressure to win right away at USC, and USC's schedule is much tougher than Georgia's right now with a 9-game Pac-12 schedule and ND non-conference rivalry. I think it is close though.
I am not alone in this opinion either:
|11 weeks 4 hours ago||Who knows?||
It could be huge, but Michigan was already a perfect fit, and he was still favoring the in-state school. That makes me a little cautious as he just may be a prospect who want to stay home despite the Georgia football program's turbulence and uncertainty. Hopefully, this development turns the tide though, and he finally goes with his brain over his heart.
|11 weeks 4 hours ago||I think Isaac Nauta had planned on enrolling early||
I think Isaac Nauta had planned on enrolling early so this could have huge ramifications for Michigan. That being said, I think Georgia may be the best job available right now, possibly better than USC. I think a lot of coaches would line up for the job, but it seems like this isn't a great year for head coaching candidates so it will be interesting to see who they end up hiring (USC as well).
|11 weeks 5 hours ago||Citrus Bowl||
I think Michigan is probably going to end up in the Citrus Bowl. I think the only scenario that could possibly change this is if Iowa were to beat MSU. Ohio State is going to be in the top 10 so they are a lock for one of the NY6 bowls. It is possible MSU could fall out of the NY6 bowl picture with a loss to Iowa and bump Michigan out of the Citrus, but I think it is unlikely. Iowa is probably a lock for a NY6 bowl (Rose Bowl) even with a loss to MSU in the B1G Champ Game.
|11 weeks 5 hours ago||This||
If the injury is a torn pectoral, the recovery is usually around 6 months. Even spring practice may be optimistic.
As mentioned above, I think Rudock's availability is the biggest injury concern right now. I think Michigan has enough players to manage on DL without Glasgow for one game. I think the offense could potentially fall apart without Rudock.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||31-24 Michigan||
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Hate to say this||
But Desmond King is going to win the B1G Defensive Back of the Year unless Jourdan Lewis has a Woodson-like OSU statement game. King is having a monster season with 8 INTs, and Iowa may go 12-0 and win their division. And all 8 of those INTs came against Power 5 competition so it is not like he padded those stats against weak competition. In fact, Iowa has played 9 Power 5 schools so far this season, and King has at least one INT in 6 of those games. Both are deserving, but I think you give King the nod with his team's success.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Ohio is not growing and its population is getting older||
Where did I say it was all old people? But it is estimated by 2030, over 20% of Ohio's population will be over 65. Add in that Ohio has the 7th lowest population growth rate in the country, and you have an aging population. This is not just an Ohio problem; it is a Midwest problem. The Midwest states have the lowest population growth rates in the nation.
And Florida does have a lot of old people. But its population is almost double that of Ohio's with a growth rate 10 times bigger than Ohio's.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||7th largest population, but how old are those people?||
I haven't looked the numbers, but I am guessing that OH population, like most of the Midwest, is an aging population. The state of Ohio is not growing like Virginia, New Jersey, or North Carolina. I bet you if you look at those NFL numbers 10-20 years from now, Ohio will no longer be in the top 5.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||This is so dumb||
Ohio State just won a national championship last year. Michigan has been dominated in the rivalry the last decade. This is probably the hardest time to try to recruit Ohio right now, and most of the top tier Ohio prospects in 2016 and even 2017 have been committed to OSU before Harbaugh even got settled into the Michigan job. When we were getting players like Desmond Howard & Charles Woodson, Michigan was dominating the rivalry. It is a lot easier to recruit when you are winning. As for the past with Bo, the scholarship limits were different. You could take a flyer on projects and second-tier prospects because you had more scholarships to give. But with adoption of the 85 scholarship limit in 1992, you can't do this any more. Add in that Ohio HS football isn't what it used to be, and you are going to end up with a much smaller prospect pool to recruit from.
The reason Hoke recruited Ohio and the Midwest hard is because he didn't have the cachet to recruit nationally like Harbaugh. But even Hoke got pretty much shut out of Ohio once Urban Meyer started winning at OSU. Hoke had one class where he hit Ohio State hard in the Tressel transition in 2012, but that was pretty much it. Harbaugh is going to go after the best players for Michigan and his team that he can get, and I don't think geography is going to have much to do with it.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||S&P+ is by far the most bullish on Michigan's chances||
Most other ratings have Michigan's odds to win the East around 5-10%.
Massey: Michigan 42% and PSU 16% to win -> 6.7% odds to win East
ESPN FPI: Michigan 42.3% and PSU 20.4% to win -> 8.6% odds to win East
FEI will have their data out tomorrow, but it looks like it will probably have even worse odds than these 3 models.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Why though?||
It is so much easier to win in the ACC. Dabo pretty much has a two or three-game season every year at Clemson. Why would you trade that for the unrealistic LSU expectations with a schedule against the SEC West + Florida every year?
|11 weeks 6 days ago||They were only #2 because they were undefeated||
Their schedule was backloaded and that was the only reason they were #2 at that point because they were undefeated after wins over overrated Auburn & Florida to start the season. LSU was actually only preseason #14 with Alabama #3, Auburn #6, Ole Miss #17, and Arkansas #18. They were expected in the preseason to finish 3rd or 4th in the SEC West. Someone has to lose out of that group of teams (and it was actually Auburn who took the brunt, not even LSU). If they win this weekend against Texas A&M, they will finish 8-3 (should be 9-3 but their bodybag season opener got cancelled) ahead of the Egg Bowl loser, Texas A&M, & Auburn. They have pretty much played to their preseason expectations. LSU consistently plays one of the toughest schedules in the nation right now in the SEC West with Florida as their fixed crossover game. Expectations are crazy if you expect to be a top 5 team with that schedule year in and year out.
By your definition, almost every team in the SEC West has undergone a collapse this year including Alabama post-Ole Miss home loss.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||When did a 3-game losing streak become a collapse?||
LSU lost @Alabama, Arkansas, and @Ole Miss. I think you hope they win one or two of those games, but there is no shame in losing those 3 games.
I think LSU will probably empty the bank to get a big name to replace Miles, but the expectations in the SEC West have gone batshit crazy if that is a collapse.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Didn't even happen at CMU. It happened at Michigan.||
People seem to like to rewrite history and conveniently forget about this. He plead guilty to a misdemanor after being charged with 3 felonies connected to a theft at a casino during his last semester at Michigan after he announced his transfer. He was suspended at CMU for multiple games at the beginning of the season due to it. If he were still at Michigan, I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have been suspended for longer, possibly the season. And then to top it off, he was suspended for CMU's bowl game due to academics. Quite honestly, I think the transfer was for the best for him and Michigan. Refresh the history here:
|12 weeks 1 hour ago||This||
If Les Miles wants to continue working, there will be more than enough offers for him. I am more intrigued to see what kind of job he wants or is willing to take. Would Miles sit out a year to wait and see if someone will offer an elite job (like Urban Meyer) or would he take a job at a middle-tier Power 5 school like Illinois? I think part of this also depends on the terms of his buyout as well.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Some interesting Big Ten scores so far tonight||
Georgetown 71 - Wisconsin 61 F
Penn State 52 - Duquesne 78 F
Rider 58 - Maryland 59 1:09 2nd
UT Arlington 64 - Ohio State 57 2:39 2nd
Columbia 35 - Northwestern 28 Halftime
|12 weeks 1 day ago||I think you jinxed us||
Everything went to shit after this post.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||I have never understood the Ferentz hate||
Iowa is not an easy place to win. Do you think Nebraska would trade places with Iowa right now? Minnesota? Illinois? You don't get rid of Ferentz unless you can get someone better, and I am not sure there is a better candidate out there right now. Iowa's football history before Hayden Fry was pretty bleak for a long time, and that program, like many in that region of the country, risks falling into irrelevancy with the wrong coach.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||With that kind of money, I could see Herman wait||
Why leave Houston where you are making $3M unless the right job comes along? Houston has a pretty good recruiting base, and he should be able to do well in the AAC. I could see him wait for a job like Texas, Texas A&M, or Ohio State to open up. The only job that is open right now that I would leave that for is USC.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||27-20 Michigan||
|12 weeks 5 days ago||I don't know if it has anything to do with age||
For me, the split M has always a had the look of cheap knockoff to me. I don't know if it is the font or what, but I have never liked it.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Who are these grad transfers "all over Power 5?"||
Please enlighten me. Most impact grad transfers happen at QB and RB. My theory on that: because only one of them can play and get the majority of playing time. I think that is also why grad transfers and transfers are so much more prevalent in college basketball than college football. But I do not see most successful Power 5 football programs using grad transfers as major tool in personnel. Most of them would rather have a 4-star recruit for that scholarship.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Wish it didn't have the split M on the sleeve||
Not a fan of the split M. Lose that and the jersey is beautiful.