|10 min 38 sec ago||Not much||
Marial Shayok was the only surprising name to see on that list for me. I think the other two were not major contributors.
Remember Michigan had four players transfer last year: Spike Albrecht, Aubrey Dawkins, Kam Chatman, and Ricky Doyle. It's just part of college basketball today.
|22 min 31 sec ago||Tournament expansion in 1985||
The tournament expanded to 64 teams in 1985. Something to keep in mind when looking at years before 1985. Between 1953-1974, there were between 22-25 teams in the tournament.
Sweet 16 games before 1985 were usually Michigan's 1st or 2nd game in the tournament. I think a better way to look at this would be record in Sweet 16 since tournament expansion in 1985 (6-1). Still an impressive record either way.
|1 week 20 hours ago||Picked only one real upset picked in 1st round||
President Obama had only one true upset pick in the 1st round: Bucknell over West Virginia. West Virginia also has one of the lowest approval ratings for Obama. Coincidence? I hope not as that would be some solid shade.
|1 week 1 day ago||UNC has a a pretty easy road to the Elite Eight||
The bottom half is tough, but UNC should have an easy road to the regional final as the South region has the weakest #4 and #5 seeds. I don't think UNC would trade places with Villanova or Kansas.
|1 week 3 days ago||RPI is garbage||
Wisconsin SOS is #39 on KenPom. Minnesota is #49. Maryland is #54. And your RPI SOS number for Wisconsin did not include the neutral site game against Michigan yesterday.
Selection and seeding has to be about more than just RPI and SOS too. Who did Minnesota or Maryland beat? How did they do in conference play? And then add in that Minnesota lost their starting SG for the season during the B1G conference tournament and it just doesn't make sense. And a couple of Wisconsin's losses came while Bronson Koenig was hurt.
|1 week 3 days ago||Teams 100-150 are usually garbage||
Wisconsin was 14-9 against the top 100 with no losses against any team +100. Minnesota was 13-9 against the top 100 with one +100 loss.
|1 week 3 days ago||Is this a joke?||
They played UNC, Tennessee, and Georgetown on a neutral court. They played @Marquette and @Creighton. They played Syracuse at home. That is enough. There is absolutely no reason for them to get a seed below Minnesota or Maryland. They were 3-0 against Minnesota and Maryland and finished higher (2nd) in both the B1G regular season and tournament.
|1 week 6 days ago||48 hours left||
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||And avoid the increased probability of injury||
They are more at risk for injury with this. I don't really care much about the result of the game. Thanks Big Ten!
|2 weeks 4 days ago||And then Illinois went and lost to Rutgers yesterday||
And then Illinois went and lost to Rutgers yesterday. Rutgers dude.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Who are you going to put in ahead of them?||
The bubble is terrible this year. MSU's resume isn't great. But the rest of bubble teams have worse ones.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Possibly but it would have no effect on MSU||
Possibly, but Iowa does not affect MSU. Iowa getting in would probably mean another conference would lose a bid or there would be a lack of conference tournament upsets.
Look at Bracket Matrix just to see the buffer MSU has from being left out:
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Yes||
The only thing that may have changed in your hypothetical scenario is maybe they have to play in the play-in games on Tuesday. Most people have Vanderbilt in at 17-14. MSU is in.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Who cares?||
Besides even with that loss, MSU is still in the tournament.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||New NFL rules has more to do with it||
I love Tom Brady, but I think this storyline about his conditioning and diet helping propel him to play into his forties is nonsense. I think his ability to play into his 40s has more to do with the new NFL rules protecting the QB. He is not a mobile QB who takes a lot of hits outside the pocket. And it is much easier to avoid catastrophic injuries in the pocket with the new NFL rules protecting the QB.
Drew Brees is a 6'0 QB who is probably going to play into his 40s as well. I think this is may become more commonplace moving forward.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I think this is it||
I think this is the final round. The details say that the voting ends on 3/11.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Matta and OSU are still in there||
OSU fans can still vote for Matta. He is one of the final four but is currently in last place with 5%.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Where did all these Purdue fans come from?||
I'm surprised that there are this many Purdue fans to keep the vote this close.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Delete||
Didn't see someone already posted about his criminal stalking investigation at Michigan.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Even that is an insult to Bleacher Report||
nbadraft.net is hot garbage. At least Bleacher Report has made an effort to invest in writers to produce better content. A monkey randomly picking names out of hat could come up with a better mock draft than the stuff posted on nbadraft.net.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Combine for OL||
Not a lot of OL get invited to the Combine especially considering how many OL are on NFL rosters. I concede the Senior Bowl point: almost all of the Senior Bowl participants were invited to the NFL Combine. But a lot of the Shrine Game OL participants were not invited so it is not that surprising that Magnuson was left off. Considering Kalis was a late addition to the Senior Bowl, his omission is a little more stunning.
This may not be a good sign for their draft prospects if NFL teams did not want to see them after the postseason senior all-star games. But I do wonder how much more you will get from an OL at the Combine after you already got their measurables at the Senior/Shrine Bowl, interviewed and watched them practice. I don't think the other Combine workout testing (40, shuttle, etc.) really adds that much in the evaluation of OL.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Under Armour probably regrets that deal now||
Under Armour's stock has tanked in the last 12 months, and I wonder if they would still offer UCLA the same terms now with the trouble their company is facing. UA's stock price was around 40 a year ago and the month before they signed UCLA. It is barely over 20 today.
Personally, I am glad Hackett and Michigan avoided Under Armour. A lot of people on this board were enamored with them, but they are still miles behind Nike and adidas.
|5 weeks 1 hour ago||Until this past year||
Hard to argue with the job he had been doing until this past year, but there was not much for him to do. Dantonio and Izzo were already in place. Their football program has had one of the best decades in their history. Keeps Izzo happy. I think the major complaint for MSU fans before this year was the Tom Anastos hire and continuing to stick with him.
But this year is testing other skills that he may not have.
|5 weeks 1 hour ago||Kalis & Magnuson vs. Braden||
I wonder if the NFL scouts felt they saw enough of Kalis & Magnuson at the Shrine Game and Senior Bowl that they did not need to see them at the NFL Combine. Kalis practiced for both of those games which is rare so NFL teams probably got a good look at him--better than most prospects in this draft.
Ben Braden was not invited to either game so maybe this is Combine invite is because NFL personnel are looking for more data on him.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Not sure I agree with this||
This stinks. MSU avoided firing her. She gets to retire and possibly keep any kind of financial benefits or retirement package? Are both trying to protect themselves in a future lawsuit?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Sad for all parties||
Blackwell seemed like a guy who was well regarded in the Detroit community. The players, both Michigan and MSU, had a lot of respect for him from SMSB.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Izzo's take on this was awful||
Izzo was put in a bad position because the MSU AD was MIA, but Izzo essentially said it is better to be ignorant.
"Whether you believe this or not, I can look everybody in the eye here and you can read my body language -- you know more than I know," Izzo said. "For two reasons. One, is in this day and age, it's better to have less knowledge than more knowledge. Especially if you are the people on the outside."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I never understood this||
Not attacking you, but I never understood this. This is a message board, not the New York Times. We aren't smearing their names or reporting news. People get smeared on here and post inaccurate stuff here every day. I don't understand why people have to tiptoe around rumors on a message board unless it reaches a point where people start acting like douches.
Their names have been mentioned as rumored to be involved. No one is saying they did anything right now.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I think there will have to be some kind of standard||
Urban areas and high density traffic will need V2V communication to maximize the benefit. I think they will have to standardize the communication across the industry like wireless internet. A newer car may have newer technology, but it would still have the ability to talk with older standards.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Credit||
I think the fastest way to do it would be to offer a credit to get older cars out of circulation. Possibly the government could help subsidize it based on savings they would theoretically make with self-driving cars? I also wonder if insurance companies would make or lose money with self-driving cars. There would be far fewer accidents and claims but wouldn't companies have to charge a lower rate?
I think local municipalities that rely on traffic tickets will take a big hit with self-driving cars, but I guess traffic ticket revenue has already been dropping in many places already.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Theoretically there would be no traffic and higher speed limits||
With self-driving cars, you would be able to avoid the issues that create traffic by having cars that communicate with each other. This would also allow you to increase the speed limits.
I am not a proponent for switching to self-driving cars now as I believe it should be an all or nothing proposition. And I would need to see that they have enough evidence that these systems are able to handle snow-covered roads and other inclement conditions where decreased visibility affects camera and sensor performance. I know Ford has been working on some systems that get around this. The other issue is what happens if the system goes down? Most people will probably be terrible drivers with self-driving cars because you only maintain a skill like that with practice.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I don't think there can be any in-between||
I think it will be very hard to have an in-between. Fully autonomous cars will probably require the ability to communicate with all cars on the road. I think you lose many of the advantages and increase liability without it.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I don't think the list is final||
The list posted on NFL.com yesterday got pulled down, and people have been reporting on it like it was official. The official Combine list has not been released yet. I don't think the list that was temporarily visible was final.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||2018 season opener||
Canteen will line up against Michigan in the 2018 season opener in South Bend assuming he completes both of his final years at ND.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Internet killed Tom Lemming||
Tom Lemming (PrepStar) & Allen Wallace (SuperPrep) were the guys in recruiting before the internet destroyed them like the rest of print media. They relied on selling their magazines and did not adapt to the new world. Tom Lemming even had a 1-900 number recruiting hotline where you got charged $1.79/minute for his recruiting scoops. Even in the year 2000, Lemming was still trying to shill his magazine and 1-900 number. Rivals got started, blew up, and Mike Farrell made himself the self-appointed "godfather of recruiting."
Tom Lemming was on ESPN.com for a little in their early days, but they ditched him pretty quickly. He used to have this Roadtrip series where he would visit a different prospect in every part of the country and write it up as a postcard.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||FERPA should not cover the staff member though?||
FERPA should not cover the staff member though? Unless he was a grad assistant?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||This is sad||
The journalists that cover MSU athletics should just be embarrassed. MSU fans talk about the "Blue Wall" of Detroit media that is biased against them, but time and again, we see stories like this that they consistently miss while Lynn Henning writes this beauty of a column before Signing Day:
Speaking of Signing Day, how convenient of MSU to release this along with the Demetrius Cooper spitting story after the LOIs were signed.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||You may want to change the the thread title||
Lyle is participating in warmups, looks fine, and may play.
Mods, maybe just make it the game open thread?
EDIT: But he's not starting. So I may be wrong.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||JaQuan Lyle is at pregame warmups||
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Few returning starters||
Air Force was hit hard by graduation. The service academies usually have a lot of turnover in their starting lineup, but they had an unusually large senior class of starters graduate. Low recruiting ranking also contributed to this. I think they will outperform this as the service academies are harder to quantify based on their different recruiting profile and systems, but I don't think this will be one of the better Air Force teams.
I think Brian covered this in one his posts recently, but Bill Connelly looked at returning production for FBS, and Air Force was dead last at #129. Michigan is #127 BTW.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||LOL||
1. Onwenu is a projected starter; a true freshman OL who got playing time. Playing time is not a reason for a transfer. In fact, playing time is a big reason why it is most likely not him.
2. Onwenu is from Detroit Cass Tech, a hometown kid from a pipeline school. Who is the last Cass Tech kid who left Michigan for any reason? Boubecar Cissoko? And he didn't even leave by his own choice. He got into legal trouble. This also rules out things like homesickness and family emergencies.
3. We have no reason to believe that Onwenu is in academic or legal trouble. Who is the last Cass Tech kid to transfer out of Michigan for academic reasons? Most of the kids from that high school come pretty prepared for college.
This is not just some blind guess or weakly rooted assumptions. It is thinking which you refuse to do. Insiders have to post stuff many times without names because that is how they continue to get information. But it is lazy to just start listing off players' names like you are and trying to get the OP to continue to refute them until you are satisified. There is not one good reason to even think it would be Onwenu. So why even bring it up?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Critical thinking and logic does not point at Onwenu||
Clearly the OP does not want to name the OL at this time. You didn't ask a question. You just threw another name out there for him to confirm after he already said no about Cole & Bredeson.
Nothing is confirmed until after the fact. But there are common reasons why players leave programs, and the point I was making is that Onwenu does not fit them at this time. And why is the burden of proof on me? At least, my reasoning makes sense. What possible reason do you even see Onwenu leaving the program? Why is this even a concern for you besides the OP mentioning an OL leaving? Does Onwenu seem more likely compared to the rest of the returning OL?
|6 weeks 5 days ago||2016 season hypothetical||
2016 season hypothetical: How do you think this past season would have played out if we had OSU at home and MSU & PSU on the road like OSU did this year?
Personally, I think Michigan would have gone 11-1 and in the playoff with the only loss to Iowa on the road.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||I don't believe it either but their trajectory better than MSU||
I don't believe in James Franklin, but he is recruiting well and has a good team on paper for 2017. I think their program trajectory is better than MSU and the gap is widening between OSU, Michigan, & PSU from the rest of the division in recruiting.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||More from a season ticket standpoint||
We should have gotten OSU's schedule: OSU home alternating with MSU & PSU home in the following year.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Tough thing to approach||
The problem with looking at 2015 rankings is that some of those players are already accounted for in returning production. I think possibly using a weighted average of the recruiting rankings may be a way to look at it.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Feleipe Franks (2016) and Jake Allen (2017)||
I think they have taken as many QBs as Michigan in the last 2 recruiting cycles. But they have no upperclassmen QBs and Del Rio is going to be out for a while.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||He's an in-state lineman and projected starter||
He's an in-state lineman and projected starter. Not homesick and not a problem with playing time. The other options would be academic and legal trouble. He was at the Orange Bowl so he is eligible. No legal trouble has been reported anywhere.
The OP made this sound like someone was transferring by choice as well so it would most likely apply to someone that does not want to be at Michigan anymore. And on our list of linemen, Onwenu is among the least likely for this story to apply to.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Onwenu doesn't even make sense||
Not sure why you would even need someone to verify this for you. Onwenu doesn't even make sense here.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Yes but I doubt anyone would call that now||
Possibly, but I doubt anyone would make that determination now. Most of the reports have oscillated between being ready for this fall or 2018, but no one has even brought up career-ending lately.
And I doubt he would transfer during his rehab.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||I did leave out Bushell-Beatty||
Bushell-Beatty and Kugler are the only other two to have started games. I assumed Bushell-Beatty would wait until after graduating. Transferring before graduating would cost you a year.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||There aren't a lot of OL||
Bredeson or Cole didn't make sense to begin with seeing Cole could have left for the NFL Draft and Bredeson was interviewed at Signing of the Stars. Runyan Jr seems unlikely given the legacy connection. Doubt it is Onwenu. Probably not Newsome given his current injury situation.
When I saw this, I was thinking Patrick Kugler. If not Kugler, then Spanellis or Ulizio.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Every offensive assistant is fleeing Indiana||
Greg Frey and Shawn Watson have both left Indiana after Mike DeBord got hired last month. Watson did leave for a promotion as OC at Pittsburgh, but not a good look for DeBord. Deland McCullough (RB coach) is the only assistant left from last year's IU offensive staff.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||He didn't make the All-Pac 12 team||
He didn't make the All-Pac 12 team, but teams with losing records usually don't always get a lot of postseason recognition.
He was a 3-star recruit who chose Cal over Nebraska & Oklahoma in 2013. No Michigan offer. http://247sports.com/Player/Aaron-Cochran-12598?Institution=7825
Based on his recent Twitter follows, my guess is he is looking at Big 12 schools (Oklahoma St & Texas Tech).
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Returning experience & 2017 schedule||
When the 2017 schedule was first released, I thought the @Wisconsin and Ohio State back-to-back to end the season was terrible. It may actually end up being a good thing for a team as young as Michigan will be.
OSU, @PSU, & @Wisconsin will most likely be the three toughest games on the schedule next year. Probably best to get two of those at the end of the season when the team will have more experience under their belt.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||He says we offered||
It could be anything. It's possible the offer was never committable or Michigan didn't pursue him as hard and were slow-playing him. Maybe he had a negative experience on a visit. Who knows.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Pretty complimentary of MSU||
The Michigan guys were all pretty complimentary of MSU across the board. I wonder if that will make it even harder for MSU fans to swallow.
Most of the MSU commits come off as pretty salty in their responses about Michigan. Hunter Rison LOL.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Phone calls are allowed||
Dead period eliminates face-to-face contact. But phone calls are still allowed.
Every year we see coaches trying to sway prospects on the phone at the last minute. This is what Urban did with Mike Weber.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I wish I could upvote this 100x times||
Why do people feel the need to create a new thread every time someone puts a crystal ball prediction in? If it were a Michigan insider like Steve Lorenz or run of multiple predictions, I could maybe see the motivation.
But this is just stupid.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think in-state players is the primary reason for this||
The in-state Michigan basketball talent pool has been pretty dry the last 10-15 years. I don't think in-state recruiting is the reason for this.
It surely doesn't help the situation, but I think it is much lower on the list.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Zak Irvin with a career night||
0 PTS, 0-8 FGs, 2 REBs, 2 ASTs, 3 TOs.
Not sure it tops his masterpiece at South Carolina, but this was in a rivalry game, so I will give him extra credit.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Zak Irvin update||
0 pts, 0-7 FGs, 1 Reb, 2 Asts, 2 TOs. Is that good?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||2011 MSU team was pretty bad||
This team by the end of the season may end up better than the 2011 team.
Somehow Tom Izzo turned a team with Draymond Green, Kalin Lucas, and Durrell Summers into a .500 team and a 10 seed in the NCAA Tournament.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Zak Irvin 0-6 FG 0 Ast 1 TO||
Zak Irvin 0-6 FG 0 Ast 1 TO. Solid first half.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I am expecting every call to go against us from here on out||
Izzo T early here.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Michigan Basketball 0-5 on the road||
Michigan Basketball 0-5 on the road. I think that is the important stat here. The football record is irrelevant.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||79% of the betting is on MSU with spread now up to MSU -3||
The game opened at Michigan State -1, then heavy Spartans action pushed the line to Michigan State -2.5. Per SportsInsights, 79 percent of the bets are on Michigan State.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||CJ Beathard is awful||
CJ Beathard is awful. I can't believe we lost to that team.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Conversation between the announcers||
1 (Mayock): Who made that tackle?
2: De'Veon Smith. It was a Michigan helmet.
1: How many Michigan guys are here?
3: (cutting off announcer #2) All of them.
2: All the others were in the East/West (Shrine Game).
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Now he retweeted this||
|7 weeks 5 days ago||It doesn't sound like he is going away quietly either||
EDIT: It looks like he deleted the tweet. Robinson sent a tweet out that said "OSU PLAYERS DO SO MUCH DRUGS"
|7 weeks 5 days ago||I think the CBS Sports graphic includes next week's Super Bowl||
I think the CBS Sports graphic includes next week's Super Bowl. So that would bring the MGoBlue total to 100. Doesn't get you all the way but accounts for part of the discrepancy.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Even beyond that it is looking at rosters||
Even beyond that, it is looking at rosters. Not sure I would put the same value on Tom Brady making a Super Bowl as I would Nate Ebner (Ohio State). The 53rd player on your roster is not equivalent to the Super Bowl MVP.
At worst, there should be a weighting for a Super Bowl starter and Super Bowl MVP. Or games started during the regular season/playoffs.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||One thing I will give Hoke credit for||
Hoke recruited some high character kids. Not surprised teams are impressed with these guys in interviews.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||But would a Michigan graduate admissions program sign off?||
I don't think admissions would want to touch that. I get football and Harbaugh have a lot of pull, but the redemption story probably should take place somewhere else.
Also, is the victim from the LTT incident still in school in Ann Arbor? That may be an issue as well.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Oliver Martin Senior Highlights from Hudl|
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Does anyone know if Oliver Martin is visiting this weekend?||
Asking for a friend in Bolivia. Not really a friend, more like an acquaintance.
|8 weeks 56 sec ago||I prefer the Hudl cut||
Willie Gay Senior Highlights from Hudl
|8 weeks 3 min ago||Just post his senior highlights||
New Title: Oliver Martin Senior Highlights (Watch sitting down)
|8 weeks 8 min ago||Getting a bad feeling he stays at home||
Solomon and Gay are my dream finish for this class, but I get a bad feeling Willie Gay stays home at Mississippi State. No sources, but it doesn't seem either Michigan or LSU are really confident. When Sam Webb isn't getting a lot of intel, it usually is a bad sign. He is from Starkville and may take an unofficial visit there this weekend as well.
Hard to pull kids out of Mississippi. I will never understand why.
|8 weeks 22 min ago||OP should retitle thread||
Anyone know if Sam1863 is visiting Bolivia this weekend?
|8 weeks 24 min ago||IBD||
|8 weeks 24 min ago||IBD||
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Because they only had one senior starter?||
Ohio State had so many players leave early last year. The only senior I can think of was Pat Elflein.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I noticed that as well before Mayock commented on it||
Mayock even noticed.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I think he has a good shot||
No QB on CMU's roster has even attempted a pass in live game action yet.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||I never get this||
Michigan may or may not have wavered, but he did have a chance to commit for a long time in the process. Michigan still remained in communication with him.
On the other hand, OSU didn't even bother with him until they struck out on multiple options and showed up a week before Signing Day. Not sure how that position inspires more confidence in being wanted.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Attrition and draft early entry||
I think Ohio State lost more players to the draft than they were expecting. They already have around 20 spots open and will probably have a couple more with attrition.
They have already had 2 OL transfer, 1 QB retire, 1 QB transfer, and a couple more rumored transfers.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||He may have found a way to work it out to make both||
Could be a short visit where he is able to make both.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||FTFY||
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Look at his Twitter follows||
David Dawson was following a bunch of ISU coaches weeks before his announcement.
Some of his new follows are Wyoming, Arizona, Washington St, Miami (OH), & GVSU.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Here is his profile||
Greg Mattison's 247Sports profile. Not sure how accurate this is, but it looks like he is out there. I don't think the Southeast is his recruiting region so that is probably why you have not heard much about him lately. It looks like Michigan (Midwest) and Texas are his 2 major regions.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Not sure if you can put this on Taggart||
This is on the S&C coaches. Taggart's response is what will be important.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Pro coaching is less time-intensive||
Pro coaching is less time-intensive. There is no recruiting and the player personnel/evaluation is handled by the GM and other people. Most pro assistant coaches are focused primarily on coaching. I think they do the pro day and NFL combine circuit in the spring, but it is not the year-round effort required in college.
But job security and cost of living can be worse in the NFL. NFL coaching staffs turnover a lot more than college.
Personally IMO, I think this decision for Wheatley has more to do with his goals for career advancement than pro vs. college lifestyle. I think Wheatley eventually wants to be a coordinator and head coach, and getting there by only staying at Michigan is tough. You don't grow a coaching tree like Harbaugh has with assistant coaches not spreading their wings. For example, Willie Taggart was a RB coach under Harbaugh for 3 years at Stanford before leaving for the WKU HC gig.
I don't get why everyone is that concerned. It would suck to lose Wheatley because he is a Michigan legend and good coach & recruiter, but Harbaugh has shown time and again an ability to identify coaching talent and many times even upgrade over coaches who have left.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||But he was never committed||
Travis Johnson was a big recruiting loss, but he was never publicly committed to Michigan. If we are talking about recruiting losses instead of decommitments, it changes this discussion a little.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I don't think he was either||
I don't think RoJo ever committed publicly. Although the whole verbal commitment is a strange one to judge.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Jake Fisher gets my vote as well||
The strange part about Jake Fisher's recruitment was that his decommitment followed the release of Rich Rodriguez. I would have thought linemen would have been more likely to stick around with someone like Brady Hoke, especially from in-state. But the program was in so much disarray at the time with the coaching change happening late after the bowl.
Fisher hurt so much because he was at a huge position of need and from in-state as a lifelong fan. Having him, Taylor Lewan, Michael Schofield, David Molk, and Denard would have been deadly. We would have had 2 All-American tackles bookending our OL for 3 years as both guys were ready to play early, and Schofield had started his career playing at guard.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Michigan plays Wisconsin 4 years in a row||
Michigan plays Wisconsin 4 years in a row (2016-2019) under the new B1G scheduling format. In the next 4 year cycle (2020-2023), Michigan will probably play them one time (or possibly 2) in 4 years.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Roman already took a job with the Baltimore Ravens||
Roman already took a job with the Baltimore Ravens and the other Harbaugh.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Will work with QB and WRs as well per release||
Will work with QB and WRs as well per release. Wonder which way Harbaugh will go with the 10th assistant coach that is expected to pass in April. I am assuming it will be someone currently on staff as an analyst. It would probably be pretty hard to hire someone in April.
|10 weeks 4 hours ago||That can turn pretty quick||
CMU used to be that spot with Brian Kelly followed by Butch Jones. Then came Dan Enos.
|10 weeks 5 hours ago||Jeff Hafley?||
When he starts talking about Jeff Hafley, it is pretty clear that his source is an agent. It's possble there is some veracity to the story. But my guess is this agent is just trying to get his clients publicity for a raise or a new job. Jeff Hafley is probably going to be out of work once the new coach gets hired in SF. This agent sees the contracts Don Brown and Dave Aranda just got and wonders if a rumor of Mel Tucker leaving may get him a raise.
Maybe Drevno is interested in talking about the job, but the article seems to spend a lot of time reciting the resumes of Tucker and Hafley. I also find it interesting that Angelique Chengelis, the most trusted source of Michigan news at the Detroit News, did not bother to even retweet Henning's story. But she did find the time to retweet De'Veon Smith's tweets about Wheatley interviewing for the job.
|10 weeks 5 hours ago||It smells of an agent||
This article sounds like an agent just trying to get his clients' names in the media. Possibly because they are interested in the job. But also maybe to renegotiate a raise. With the coordinator salaries on the rise, it wouldn't hurt to have your guy's name linked to another job.
The whole "article" is just Henning reciting three guys' resumes who were never being talked about for the WMU job until Henning. Usually most writers are talented enough to at least make it look legitimate.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I don't think this is an alternative to college at this time||
Details are still sparse right now, but it looks like a summer-only league. It doesn't look like there is year-round training or access to facilities you would get in college. Maybe some kids will choose this route over straight Junior College, but once you get paid, you lose your college eligibility.
I think this option right now is for players who were never going to college in the first place. Maybe it could grow to more if it were successful though.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Bingo||
I think this is a small test to see if a minor league would be viable. If anyone could develop a viable minor league football system, it could be extremely profitable. I just think that college football is so entrenched in American culture though that it would strangle any minor league system. And if college football ever felt threatened, they would probably adapt to pay players. Only the NFL could challenge college football with a league-supported initiative in my belief.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Advanced stats don't factor injuries in||
Advanced stats don't factor injuries in. Losing Peppers for the game makes the Orange Bowl harder to evaluate.
But also need to take into account that some of the advanced stats did not see the bowl as a close one-point loss. S&P+ had the adjusted scoring margin as a 12-point loss with Michigan only having a win expectancy of 6%. Iowa was a an adjusted scoring margin of a 3-point loss with an win expectancy of 33%.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||There is a difference between rumor and official||
This news is now official. It was only a rumor before today.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Sounds like Warinner was forced out||
Warinner left Ohio State (co-OC) for a demotion at Minnesota (OL coach). This sounds like Urban forced him out to make room for a new OC (rumored to be Kevin Wilson).
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Couple hypotheses||
1. I doubt 247Sports scout or focuses on JuCo scouting. There are no Rivals/Nike JuCo combines, and I don't think there are a lot of analysts/writers who cover that scene.
2. #1 kind of includes this point. It's possible these JuCo rankings have not been updated yet because they are not focused on it.
3. It's possible 247Sports ranks JuCos lower because they have fewer years of eligibility.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Any assistant should want to coach for Harbaugh||
Any assistant should want to coach for Harbaugh, especially minorities. There are currently 7 African-American head coaches in the Power 5 conferences and only 13 in all of FBS. Three of them are from the the Jim Harbaugh coaching tree (David Shaw, Willie Taggart, Derek Mason). That is unbelievable.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Lloyd Carr was never shut out||
Michigan held the longest streak in the nation avoiding a shutout until that game in South Bend in Brady Hoke's final season.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think we have the full story behind Eno Benjamin||
Michigan didn't push hard for him. But neither did the in-state Texas schools. Maybe all of them are wrong, but it seems fishy.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||It's exactly what WMU did with PJ Fleck||
PJ Fleck had never been a coordinator either. In fact, you could make a strong case that Wheatley is way more qualified for the WMU job than Fleck was when he was hired.
Wheatley is a Michigan native, college football star with a long NFL career, and had more NFL and high-level college coaching experience.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Yet?||
WMU may not have contacted him yet? PJ Fleck just got hired yesterday. I think what Wheatley's twitter follows show is that he may be interested in the job and trying to make a play for it. That or Michigan is striking for PWOs?
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Wheatley makes sense for WMU right now||
PJ Fleck left WMU in a really bad spot by leaving so late. Hiring someone this late in the cycle is going to be difficult for a MAC program. Wheatley is a Michigan native and legend and a good recruiter. He has never been a coordinator before, but that worked out with PJ Fleck.
Personally, I think it is a bad career move for Wheatley, but I can understand why someone would jump at the chance to be a head coach.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||True but why put the kids in that position if you don't have to||
I am more worried about injuries with a short week and distractions due to the start of school than Cincinnati.
And Cincinnati was bad for the AAC, but it has better talent than the MAC or FCS. I don't know how good a coach Luke Fickell is, but Scott Frost took a worse UCF team statistically and made them decent in his 1st year. Michigan should handle them, but I would call them bad 4 times. Maybe just the one.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||And Jaguars fans were happy when Jedd Fisch got fired||
Jacksonville Jaguars fans celebrated when Jedd Fisch got fired. Minnesota fans thought he sucked too. But now Jedd Fisch is a genius after coaching 2 years with Harbaugh. Crazy how much difference 2 years make. Sometimes the personnel you get to work with makes a difference. See Scott Linehan in Dallas after gettting fired in Detroit.
Pep Hamilton has past experience with Harbaugh and is probably overqualified for a WR coach. This hire actually makes more sense than Jedd Fisch did.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Except for the post just above yours||
No one mentioned it except for the post 2 above yours. j/k
It's actually worse than that. Cincinnati opens on Thursday so they already have 2 extra days to prepare for the Michigan game assuming the game stayed on Saturday. If it were moved to Sunday, it would become 3 extra days.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||The only issue with a move to Sunday is for the players||
The only issue with a move to Sunday is for the players. They would have to travel back late Sunday night and prepare for the Week 2 game against Cincinnati on a short week with the Labor Day holiday and classes starting. Not ideal for them, but how many of these decisions are ever made with them in mind? Pretty sure that isn't even why WD is upset.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||I was just about to post this||
Moving to Sunday may actually be a good thing. The FSU-Alabama game is going to be on Saturday night so it may be preferable not to go head to head with that game.
The move to Sunday really only affects people who are going to the game. It's Labor Day weekend with no NFL.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Wasn't this visit scheduled for a long time?||
I think this Georgia visit has been set for a long time. Not sure why this is news now except for the fact that Georgia has been hot on the recruiting trail for the last week.
I am not sure why everyone is that surprised about Georgia's recruiting. Kirby Smart is his 1st year honeymoon period in one of the most fertile states in the country with almost no in-state competition. Georgia has 22 high school commitments. 17 of those commitments are from Georgia. Their 2 lowest-rated commits are from AL and FL, two bordering states. It's not like they are taking the nation by storm here. Unfortunately, we were on the short end of one of their 3 highly rated commits from outside Georgia.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Everyone keeps saying this, but can he?||
How many Power 5 schools are going to hire a successful MAC coach with almost exclusively Midwest ties to date? If Fleck is going to avoid moving up a level to an AAC job, he is going to have to settle for a lower tier Power 5 school. Minnesota is not a bad fit. The B1G West lacks a true superpower right now.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yes they can talk to agents||
College athletes can talk and meet with agents. They cannot accept any kind of benefits from them or reach any kind of oral or written agreement with them. And beyond this, there is also nothing stopping family members from assisting in vetting agents either.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Internet tough guys calling him a prick is precisely why||
Internet tough guys calling him a prick is precisely why I could see why he would rather avoid a public decision and just show up on campus.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||I think he already gave it away||
He said Black is in but failed to mention Peoples-Jones or Ambry Thomas when talking about the Army All-American players. I don't think we have anything to worry about with those 2 guys.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||That's not what I said||
I don't know that much about the process, but I would think most players would have an agent selected or vetted before announcing their intentions. Peppers may have decided on a potential agent already IF HE WERE to leave, but he may not have decided yet if he will in fact leave.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Or a competing rival agent who lost out||
Or a competing rival agent who lost out?
|11 weeks 2 days ago||My guess is the report is partially correct||
My guess is that Peppers is done vetting agents and has decided on which agent he will sign with if he were to declare for the draft. This reporter learned of which agent would sign Peppers (possibly through a rival agent that was competing for Peppers) and decided to run with the story.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||What exactly does it say about Manuel?||
I see a lot of people writing this, but the most we can draw from this at this point was that he didn't intervene to stop her coach. We have no idea how involved he was in this, but it doesn't sound like much seeing he is barely mentioned in the lawsuit. How much did she actually communicate with him? How much did this soccer coach keep him in the loop? If he didn't know much about what was going on, I think at most you could say he and the AD was negligent.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||I was going to write this too||
OP this is a terrible thread title. Warde Manuel is not the primary party of this lawsuit. It is UConn and her former coach. The thread title makes it sound like Manuel is the focus of this.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Not a good look for UConn, but have no idea about Manuel's role||
This definitely looks bad for UConn, but I am not sure how much I put this on Manuel. He is pretty much a footnote in this right now as he is barely mentioned in the lawsuit. It looks like this is more on her coach as he is the one most mentioned in the lawsuit. And we also only have her side of the story right now.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Either way I think people are making too big a deal of it||
Harris just came in for an official visit. When you connect or meet someone on an official visit, you may follow them on Instagram. Doesn't mean you are going to commit to the school though.
The interesting follows for me are David Dawson's recent follows. He has starting following some other schools and coaches which makes me think he may be considering transferring for his 5th year.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||He's so forgotten we can't even get his first name right||
He's so forgotten we can't even get his first name right. That error was perfect for the context.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||I didn't choose Rutgers for that reason||
Rutgers was the 4th blowout Michigan played in (>30% of season), and more importantly, I think almost everyone on the travel team played in that game, and Michigan substituted early and often. I guess we will see, but I think anyone who played in 4 games is going to have a hard time making a case like McKeon will.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||And there was more stuff you left out||
The weirdest thing I've seen out of MSU's collapse this year is that they have now started recruiting DTs that left their program during the offseason. Cassius Peat and Enoch Smith both left MSU in August to go to JC, and I don't think either of them left for non-football reasons (academics/discipline).
Enoch Smith turned MSU down to go to Oklahoma State. MSU has not heard back from Cassius Peat yet.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Anyone who did not play at Rutgers||
I think anyone who was held out of the Rutgers game after playing in the first couple games is probably a strong bet to be applying for a medical redshirt.
I think the policy is a documented medical injury where you play for less than 30% of the regular season and not play in any games in the second half of the regular season.
Candidates: David Long, Carlo Kemp, Nick Eubanks, Josh Uche, Kingston Davis, Michael Dwumfour
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Michigan players in the Shrine Game||
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but there are a bunch of Michigan players that have already accepted East-West Shrine Game invites:
I am guessing that means the other seniors like Jake Butt, Jourdan Lewis, Chris Wormley, Taco Charlton, and Jehu Chesson are either still on the Senior Bowl short list or declined to participate.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Senior Bowl isn't done with invitations yet||
The Senior Bowl staggers their invitations or announcements so there is still a chance, but I don't think Chesson is going to make the cut.
I am waiting to see if Jake Butt & Jourdan Lewis decide to participate/get invited. Chris Wormley & Taco Charlton as well.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||I love hearing that line now||
Pride comes before the fall. LOL
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Total wins are meaningless by itself||
MSU played a pretty difficult nonconference. You are also leaving out the conference tournament. 9 wins will not be an automatic lock for the NCAA tournament, but I don't think it means they are out either. 9-10 wins in the B1G plus a win or two in the conference tournament will usually get a team into the NCAA touranment though.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Having fun watching MSU fans panic but they're going to be fine||
I am having fun watching MSU fans panic but they're going to be fine. Once they get Miles Bridges back and their freshmen get more experience, MSU is going to be OK because the Big Ten is so bad this year. Izzo got lucky that one of his worst teams is coming during a down cycle in the conference. I think MSU should still be able to wint 9-10 games in the Big Ten and get in off the bubble. If Bridges is out for longer, then LOL.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Kwity Paye won the fan vote||
Kwity Paye won the fan vote to earn his invitation. The All-Star game reports for him are going to be interesting to watch for because he played in Rhode Island and was not seen much by the scouting services.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||It's scary looking at OSU's class in these all-star games||
It's scary looking at OSU's class in these all-star games. Despite OSU pulling in a monster class, I think Michigan has still closed the talent gap as the 2014 & 2015 classes were not great for Michigan compared to OSU.
OSU is going to have around 11-13 players in the Army AA Bowl.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||The next quote is even better||
This year's Thorpe winner, Adoree Jackson, is a junior, the same class as Tabor. The other two finalists were seniors and did not win.
Last year's winner, Desmond King, won as a junior and was not even a finalist as a senior.
Tabor wasn't a finalist for the Thorpe Award, but may get nominated for the Playa Haters' Ball.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Depends on who leaves for the NFL Draft||
Both teams will replacing a lot of talent on defense. Florida returns a lot on offense, but that may not be a good thing given how bad they were this year.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Is that a subtle dig at Jim McElwain?||
If Michigan was well-coached but not that good and you lost by 30+ points, what does that say about your coaches?
Tabor doesn't care about 2017, he is gone.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||The Michigan name has a lot to do with it||
Michigan has been so bad during most of the last decade that people forget. When Michigan wins, our players have some of the most visibility in the country. Harbaugh is a factor, but so is the Michigan brand. I hate using the word "brand," but it applies here.
The only defensive player to win a Heisman is from Michigan. The last WR to win a Heisman is from Michigan. Every other player in the last 30 years to win the Heisman has been a QB or a RB. And if you go back even further, WR Tim Brown (Notre Dame 1987) is the only other WR to win almost 50 years. I'm not sure that is a coincidence.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||2006||
LaMarr Woodley (unanimous), Jake Long, and Leon Hall. A lot of similarities between 2016 and 2006. Hopefully, the 2016 team can finish strong with a bowl win.
2004 had 4 consensus All-Americans: Braylon Edwards (unanimous), David Baas, Marlin Jackson, and Ernest Shazor.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||I hate calling you out for this||
I hate calling you out for this but this is the 2nd or 3rd time you have gotten this wrong. Jake Butt ended up not sharing the consensus All-American designation with Evan Engram. He holds that spot alone as he won the tiebreaker with 2 2nd team designations to Engram's one.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Disagree||
This is a huge college football story. Some of us have take the conversation a little off-course, but this story & WakeyLeaks are going to be the top college football stories for the next couple days. If it gets deleted, another thread will probably pop up in its place.
Just like when a troll shows up in another thread, I think people are mature enough to filter what discussions they want to have.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Someone can accuse you of cheating||
Professors and fellow students have accused students of cheating and plagiarism; that's usually how it works. The professor then lays out his evidence to a committee. The student defends himself. Committee makes decision. Student can appeal if ruling not in his favor.
Cheating/plagiarism is not always black and white either.
University discipline can sometimes be cold. I've seen it firsthand. If you put yourself in gray areas, sometimes it bites you--that's life. But the university has to enforce its standards for legal and ethical reasons.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Claeys is in a tough position here||
What is Claeys supposed to do here? If he does not support his team, he risks losing them. It also makes it much tougher because he is a 1st year head coach. If this were an experienced coach with a long tenure like Nick Saban or Kirk Ferentz, I think this plays out differently.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Every school has a code of conduct||
If you cheat on an exam, some schools will expel you for that. You don't get charged with a crime though.
Some schools have policies on harassment. You may not get charged with a crime, but you can get suspended or expelled (this actually happened to a friend of mine).
No one is branding them a rapist, but if the school committee feels based on the evidence that they violated the conduct policy and Title IX, they have to take action. The standard for conduct at a university is higher than the court of law.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||It's a university||
It's a university. And Title IX is a federal law. Just because there are no charges filed does not mean you are allowed to continue to receive the right to be a student at that university. There are policies for conduct at any university and Title IX is part of that.
The students have a right to appeal or sue the university if they feel the policies & procedures were not followed correctly, and some students have won cases like this. But the university is well within their rights to enforce their conduct code and Title IX. They have to because it is a federal law.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||There was a school hearing||
There was a school hearing, and I am sure there is an appeal process. What more due process is warranted here?
The standard is preponderance of evidence in Title IX.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Is this Minnesota's Gerald Ford-Willis Ward?||
Is this Minnesota's Gerald Ford-Willis Ward?
Minnesota football standing up for those accused of sexual assault. Quite the noble cause.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||You are correct but the number is still around 15||
The number should still be around 15. I think the 5th year guys have already graduated & can assume will move on at the end of the semester for NFL Draft prep. A majority of the 4th years probably already have enough credits to graduate, but I will leave them out of this number for now. But we also have around 5 unallocated scholarships due to attrition.
5th years (8): Darboh, Chesson, Magnuson, Kalis, Braden, Godin, Glasgow, Kenny Allen.
5 unallocated scholarships
Total: 13 early enrollment spots + spring attrition
|14 weeks 1 day ago||The limit depends on how many players are on scholarship (85)||
The early enrolling limit is different from backdating.
Backdating applies to getting over the 25 new scholarships (counters) per year limit. I may be wrong on this, but I think the only limitation to the early enrollment is 85 scholarships in the spring. We have 15-17 senior scholarships that are definitely not returning so I think we should be able to make 15 easily.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Billy Price made 1st Team AA as well||
Billy Price and Kyle Kalis both made the 1st and 2nd teams respectively ahead of Dan Feeney and Ryan Ramczyk. This is what happens when you let the coaches vote on things nationally--they will just vote for the most recognizable names. Most coaches don't know much about college football outside their own conference.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Lewis & Butt are both consensus All-Americans||
Getting 1st team on 3 of the 5 NCAA-recognized All-American teams automatically makes you a consensus All-American, but you can still get it depending on the distribution of the honors. Not official yet, but Jake Butt will probably share the consensus designation with Evan Engram as they both were named to 2 1st teams out of the 5. Butt made 2 2nd teams while Engram only made 1 2nd team, but I don't think the NCAA looks at the 2nd teams.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||This is incorrect regarding Butt||
The OP is mistaken regarding the selection of Consensus All-Americans.
Evan Engram is 1st Team AA by AP & TSN and 2nd Team AA by WCFF. Jake Butt is 1st-Team AA by WCFF and 2nd Team AA by AP & TSN. Both players were left off the FWAA team. Michael Roberts of Toledo is the 1st Team AA TE and there is no TE on the 2nd Team.
If Jake Butt is named 1st Team AA by the AFCA, he WILL be a consensus All-American. The player does not always have to make 3 of the 5 teams to get that designation as it depends on the distribution of the first team honors. 3 of 5 just means you are automatically a consensus AA.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Chris Wormley was 2nd Team AA with TSN||
Chris Wormley was named a 2nd Team All-American by the Sporting News.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Haven't signed the contract yet||
|14 weeks 2 days ago||The extension happened months ago||
The extension happened months ago, before the season. It didn't become public until last week or so.
Still bad to extend and fire a coach in the same year, but it didn't happen over the course of 10 days.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Kind of misleading||
The extension happened months ago, but it did not become public until last week. Still looks pretty bad but not as bad as some are making it out to be (got extension last week and fired today).
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Jordan Anthony: Thursday 12/22||
Jordan Anthony: Thursday 12/22. That would be Day 9.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||The defense did||
2013 defense recruits: Jourdan Lewis, Taco Charlton, Ben Gedeon, Channing Stribling, Delano Hill, Dymonte Thomas, Maurice Hurst, & Mike McCray. And that is leaving out Gareon Conley who was committed for most of the year until Urban Meyer showed up.
The 2013 offense was pretty rough outside of Jake Butt unfortunately. Also included De'Veon Smith & Khalid Hill. Such a huge contrast between the success on defense vs the non-contributors/transfers on offense.
2013 offense: Shane Morris, Derrick Green, Patrick Kugler, Kyle Bosch, Logan Tuley-Tillman, David Dawson, Chris Fox, Henry Poggi, Wyatt Shallman, Jaron Dukes, Csont'e York, Da'Mario Jones, Dan Samuelson
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Sounds a little like what happened at Texas A&M last year||
Kizer and Zaire are both gone. If Brandon Wimbush leaves, Brian Kelly will have pulled the full Sumlin.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||You are focused on the wrong things||
February 2012 saw the commitments of Jourdan Lewis, Taco Charlton, Khalid Hill, & Jake Butt. Two All-Americans & 3 All-Big Ten players. Gareon Conley, Mike McCray, and DeVeon Smith committed in early March 2012. Ben Gedeon in April 2012.
And I wouldn't close the book on those guys yet, especially Kugler who played a little this year.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||February 2012||
IIRC, Ace's fingers almost fell off during that commitment cascade in February 2012. I think Michigan had 13 commitments by the end of February 2012 for their 2013 class. That is what a win over OSU did for Hoke. Imagine what it would do for Harbaugh?
I think Kugler was the last of them, and you can tell by Ace's Hello post
|14 weeks 3 days ago||This doesn't seem like a coincidence anymore||
Each one on a different day this week. Get on the Hype Train.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||This is actually a Football Scoop story||
This is actually a Football Scoop story. Land of 10 just repackaged it for hits. Not sure that makes it much better as Football Scoop's track record is not great.
Here is the actual story about the FAU job. It is about how Saban was pushing Kiffin for the FAU job to keep him away from LSU, and how Meyer was pushing Drevno for FAU to weaken Michigan.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||The interesting thing about this story||
Pete Thamel is one of the most closely connected journalists to Urban Meyer. Pete Thamel was the journalist who first started the story that Drevno was a candidate at FAU.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Nice read on Donovan Jeter||
On Donovan Jeter's impact in Beaver Falls after winning a state title in football and basketball:
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Actually proves my point||
Kerry Coombs has now been elevated to the Luke Fickell level. Dude is a recruiter and DC in name only. The title is just for a reputation and pay bump to keep him from leaving with Fickell. Urban doesn't want his whole staff of recruiters to be gutted at one time when he bringing in a class full of 5 stars. Even the release by Urban says he will have some input, making Coombs sound like the second banana.
But if he really lost his DC (Fickell), he would have hired someone from outside. Like when he hired Schiano to replace Ash. Or Ash to replace Withers. There is a reason all the players and media never refer to the defense being run by Fickell. It will probably be the same with Coombs. That position was never the real DC.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Really?||
No one ever mentions Fickell as the DC even though he had been there longer than Schiano, Ash, and Withers. It has never been called HIS defense despite being the more senior co-DC. And why would you keep hiring new DCs when you have had one on staff for 10 years?
Like I said in the previous post above, you will have your answer when OSU makes its hire to replace him. My bet is it will not be a new DC. Schiano will be the sole DC because he already was except in name.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||I guess we will see||
If OSU does not hire a new DC to replace Fickell, you will have your answer.
Most schools don't do this. Why was Fickell co-DC for so long? And every time his co-DC left, a new one was brought in to replace him? Read between the lines, and the answer is pretty clear. Every time OSU people talk about their defense in the last 5 years, no one even mentions Fickell. It has always been Schiano, Ash, or Withers.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Fickell has been DC in name only||
There is a reason OSU has brought in a new co-DC every time one leaves for a head coaching job: Fickell is not really the true DC. Everett Withers, Chris Ash, and now Greg Schiano is the real DC. Meyer kept him during the transition to help for recruiting in my belief. And I bet you OSU will not be looking for a new DC with Fickell gone unless Schiano leaves.
I actually think we really shouldn't be celebrating this. Fickell was probably dead weight on the OSU staff, and Meyer will be able to replace him with a better coach. I also have my doubts about how good Coombs is as a coach.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Adoree Jackson wins the Jim Thorpe Award||
Really sucks for Jourdan as I think he had a better season than the other 2 finalists.
Adoree had that huge final game against ND that may have given him a final push.
OK, I think I am done watching this show now. At least, they didn't make me wait to see the awards I needed to see.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Butt, Lewis, & Peppers named 1st Team Walter Camp All-Americans||
Butt, Lewis, & Peppers named 1st Team Walter Camp All-Americans. I think Lewis and Peppers are going to be consensus 1st Team All-Americans. Butt is close (he was named 2nd team TSN All-America today).
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Desmond Howard's Heisman Silver Anniversary||
I did not realize this year is the silver anniversary of Desmond Howard's Heisman.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Lamar Jackson wins Walter Camp Trophy||
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Jake Butt will be accepting the John Mackey Award on ESPNU||
Jake Butt will be accepting the John Mackey Award on ESPNU Red Carpet Show.
Pat Elflein wins the Rimington Award (outstanding center).
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Nice to see the players get recognized||
I know people are disappointed about the loss in the Game and not making the playoff, but it is nice to see the players get recognized for an outstanding season. Hopefully, cleaning up on some of these awards and winning the Orange Bowl can help change that.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Congrats to Jake Butt!||
Well deserved, and hopefully this will help with the TE recruiting in the future.
Now just need a Thorpe Award for Jourdan tomorrow.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Levy is not great on play-by-play||
Levy is not great on play-by-play. Either he doesn't do his homework or is just not meant for it.
McShay is not bad on the sideline though.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Nice||
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Hold out as in wait another year possibly||
I thought he would hold out for another year if the right job was not available this year. I think he turned down some interest from decent jobs like Maryland and Virginia last year. It's possible he was gambling on PSU opening up this year and now decided to move after Franklin got off the hot seat.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Surprising hire||
Matt Rhule has done a pretty good job and most of his experience is on the East Coast/Midwest. I would have thought he would have held out for a Big Ten or ACC job.
Maybe Temple is going to have a talent dropoff next year and he felt he had to strike before his star dimmed?
|15 weeks 2 days ago||They didn't miss that much time||
They missed 2-3 games at the end of the year. Davis returned for the SEC Championship Game. But they played most of the season. It is about the same amount of time Jourdan Lewis and Taco Charlton missed at the beginning of the year.
They do return some talented underclassmen who got some run this year like CeCe Jefferson, Alex Anzalone, Jordan Sherit, Jabari Zuniga, and David Reese. But those players they are losing are pretty significant, especially if Tabor, Brantley, and Wilson declare for the draft.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Jarrad Davis, Marcus Maye, and Bryan Cox not listed||
Jarrad Davis, Marcus Maye, and Bryan Cox not listed on that depth chart. I think they missed the last 2-3 games of the regular season with injuries but Davis did return for the SEC championship game.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Comparing 2006 and 2016 through the advanced stats||
The 2016 stats won't be final until after the bowl but here is the tale of the tape at this point. Pretty decisively for 2016.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Pretty simplistic way at looking at it||
A football team is more than a QB and a RB.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||That is going to be a challenge||
Michigan plays 6 road/neutral games next year. Playing Florida at neutral site, @PSU, and @Wisconsin is going to be a huge challenge. PSU and Wisconsin are both going to be preseason top 10-15 teams.
I think 9 regular season wins is more realistic. If we get lucky, maybe more, but it is hard to predict because there is so much unknown about our players for next year.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||I don't know||
Hard to predict 2017 because we are replacing so many starters.
I know the App State and Oregon losses really put a nasty mark on that 2007 team, but people forget that it was a pretty talented team that dealt with a lot of injuries during the year. That team had Mike Hart (Sr), Jake Long (Sr), Chad Henne (Sr), Mario Manningham (Jr), Adrian Arrington (Jr), Shawn Crable (Sr), Jamar Adams (Sr), Brandon Graham (So), and Morgan Trent (Jr).
The defense didn't have a lot of talent, but that offense was pretty good once it got healthy which we finally saw in the Citrus Bowl that year. The weird thing is that the FEI and S&P+ ratings were pretty good for the 2007 defense (#8 and #14 respectively) compared to the offense (#46 and #51 respectively). The overall F/+ ranking for the 2007 team was #14.
The huge dropoff was in 2008 after the offense cleared out for the NFL.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||"Deserve" is wrong choice of word||
I would not have selected Peppers to be a finalist, but I have no problem with him being there.
IMO, Lamar Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Dede Westbrook, and Jonathan Allen should be in NYC. Not totally sure on the 5th. I wouldn't have selected Deshaun Watson or Baker Mayfield.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||The schedule is interesting||
The schedule could line up well for Michigan.
Florida actually loses a lot of defense. Not official yet but most Florida insiders expect Tabor, Quincy Wilson, and Caleb Brantley to all declare for the NFL Draft. This is on top of losing Jarrad Davis, Marcus Maye, Joey Ivie, Daniel McMillian, and Bryan Cox. Florida is going to lose around 7-8 starters on defense so they are going to be young there like Michigan. They return a lot on offense, but their offense has been so bad, I am not sure what difference that even makes.
Michigan's two toughest games are at the end of the season: @Wisconsin and Ohio State. That lines up pretty well for a young team that should have a lot of time to mature before playing those games. I think @PSU in the middle of the season will be a challenge. That is probably going to be their Whiteout night game.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||It happens||
Competition can be fierce. Ways also had to recover from an offseason injury so I wouldn't count him out yet.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||I really hope Jourdan wins the Thorpe Award||
I really hope Jourdan wins the Thorpe Award this week.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||He had a great year and I don't have a problem with it||
He had a great year and I don't have a problem him being invited. I think there are other worthy players who could also be there as well though like Jonathan Allen, Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey, Adoree Jackson, Christian Wilkins, or Derek Barnett. I personally would pick a different finalist, but I can see why he would be selected to go to NYC.