there would have to be some to wash away
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Kick it into gear? Has he||
Kick it into gear? All he's done so far is make things worse...i.e. torpedo Lucien. Maybe we don't want him out there. Q: How can he want Lucien for defense if he has no DC?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||So then you agree we can fire||
So then you agree we can fire this guy if he sucks next year?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||That's mostly true, but I||
That's mostly true, but I think we should judge his 2012 class by their performance as freshman.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Hoke needs to get to work on||
Hoke needs to get to work on the DC position and locking up Lucien now....Someone needs to remind him that Golden Corral will be open all year.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||So Michigan might be able to||
So Michigan might be able to pull in a recruit in spite of their head coach? I don't like where this is going...it's like the anti snake oil. What happens next year when we don't have all these 3* SDSU recruits to poach?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||right, but it sounds like||
right, but it sounds like Lucien said he hasn't been contacted and the 2 UT guys said they have been.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Yea I agree. Also, I don't||
Yea I agree. Also, I don't know why the OP said "If were getting a member of the Michigan Mafia such as Austin, Heater or Bedford, one would guess that we could have gotten them relatively quickly" ---wasn't that the reason we weren't getting Hoke as the coaching search stretched on and on?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||He struck out on everyone who||
He struck out on everyone who was worth extra money, so we went with the fat guy who used to coach here with the losing record.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||"they know what corners you||
"they know what corners you have to cut to do that, and they're not going to do it. "
are you serious?
|3 years 35 weeks ago||What is||
What is tiresome/ridiculous/cliched/void of analytical reason about the fact that the man has a career LOSING record in two below-average conferences? I think it speaks far more clearly than anything else ever could. Any argument that he is a top 20 or even top 50 coach in the country is simply pie-in-the-sky dreaming.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||Given your willingness to||
Given your willingness to massage statistics until they are almost meaningless (as with your glossing over Hoke's career 47/50 record) I'm curious if there was any coach in the country you wouldn't have found reason to fall in love with?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Look, those of us||
Look, those of us disappointed and skeptical about the Hoke hire will remain so until some games are played. No one should delude themselves that a good press-conference or newspaper interview makes a good coach. I still say we made the equivalent of the Bill Stewart hire - someone the players love and who is committed to the school, but who just doesn't have the chops to be a BCS contender. Here's hoping our three star can turn into an all-american.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||So where did Allen's||
So where did Allen's brother-in-law's come from?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I think the primary "argument||
I think the primary "argument against hoke" is that he has a losing record as a head coach. As has been stated before, we're all basically hoping he's a three star recruit who turns into an all-american. fingers crossed.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Honestly, this has been||
Honestly, this has been covered ad nauseum...there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of the Hoke hire. That doesn't mean we hate him, its just legitimate fear given his past performance as a head coach. Read any number of the past posts/diaries etc. that cover this.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||No, if he added more seats,||
No, if he added more seats, it would totally eclipse whoever the coach is.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Let's hope they're easier to||
Let's hope they're easier to win than MAC games
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Hoke is truly not a San Diego||
Hoke is truly not a San Diego State Man...wait...are we the only ones that do that?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||FWIW, Pasqualoni is 141-76-1||
FWIW, Pasqualoni is 141-76-1 as a head coach, with most of those coming in the big leagues.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||well I guess we aren't the||
well I guess we aren't the only ones with a prediliction towards uninspiring hires. (kidding) So I guess RR will be taking that year off.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Can't we just use the||
Can't we just use the turpigskin one?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Yes. Compare how we responded||
Yes. Compare how we responded to failure to how Texas responded to failure. They brought in all the newest up-and-coming coordinators to reinvigorate the program. What did we do? Try and travel back in time, even though that style of football was what caused us to lose perpetually to Ohio State in the first place.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Look, the point is this is a||
Look, the point is this is a sports blog where people share their respective opinions. If there were only one acceptable opinion, this would be a pretty boring place.
Whether some people on this site express their doubts about Hoke will not affect his likelihood of success or failure here. I know everyone talks about how RR had no support early on in his tenure, but I don't think they're talking about the plebes on the blogs . They're talking about rich alums, former UM players, and the media. Hoke has already gotten a better reception than RR from all of these people. Whether some of us "little people" voice our own misgivings will have no affect whatsoever.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Oh right, tell me you really||
Oh right, tell me you really don't believe the whole "I only looked at Hoke" bullsh*t. I mean we know he looked at Pinkel and Fitzgerald....so I guess he only looked at those 3, and conveniently overlooked Miles and Harbaugh?
There are plenty of reasons to beproud to be a UM alum, but being self-righteous and blind about who our coach is and is not is not one of them.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||As a Bengals fan, I recognize||
As a Bengals fan, I recognize the mindset that led to firing of RR and hiring of Hoke. Mike Brown treasures loyalty and deference above all else, and wants to think he is special and better than everybody else. The group of "Michigan Men" alums responsible for this faceplant, who apparently wield far more power than I ever knew before, have shown a startling similar attitude throughout this process and are in perfect company with DB the DB.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||are we really going to try||
are we really going to try and take swipes at LSU just because we couldn't poach their coach? Let's try and make an effort to not look like a scorned woman.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||While there are certainly a||
While there are certainly a lot of variables, that doesn't mean you throw the record out the window. After all, the noise should average out after a period of time (unless someone is just really unlucky). We can slice it lots of different ways, but the fact is that the guy has an overall LOSING record as a head coach. While people can get pumped up all they want by a press-conference, football games are won on the field. I, for one am afraid that we just hired our very own Bill Stewart-someone the players love and who talks a good game, but who just can't cut it as a head coach at this level.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||The same reasons that||
The same reasons that top-level head coaches were reluctant to come here will extend to coordinators (maybe even more so, since they are even more expendable). Thus we have a fairly uninspiring OC already.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I agree that coach Bill||
I agree that coach Bill Stewart's, I'm sorry, Brady Hoke's love for the school is not going to make him a success here.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/||
Look under the "appropriation" heading.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Well so much for "Brandon||
Well so much for "Brandon wouldn't return to AA unless the deal was sealed." I hope he liked taking the night off last night! Not like he had anything better to do!
|3 years 36 weeks ago||New perspective||
Well I actually have to give db credit...he built up the prospect of hoke so much that people are jumping for joy that we got miles
|3 years 36 weeks ago||So did the OTL segment have||
So did the OTL segment have no impact on your feelings about LM?
|3 years 36 weeks ago||What is with all the||
What is with all the excitement? I realize no one wants Hoke, but has everyone forgotten about Patterson and Gruden? RR should NOT have been fired in order to bring in Les Miles (even if he's not the absolute worst alternative).
If it is LM, this confirms that Brandon had NO plan going into this.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||looks like we weren't as||
looks like we weren't as lucky as that one guy who figured out the timing
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I really hope we made a run||
I really hope we made a run at Gruden and Patterson. LM was not worth firing RR over
|3 years 36 weeks ago||do we know if he is a kidder?||
do we know if he is a kidder? I have to believe they had pretty strict instructions (If they were informed)
|3 years 36 weeks ago||haha, +1 (figuratively||
haha, +1 (figuratively speaking)
|3 years 36 weeks ago||http://michigan.rivals.com/||
Not trying to be snide, I just don't have an account.
I mean really, PINKEL?!
|3 years 36 weeks ago||They must have a lock on||
They must have a lock on Pelini
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Has anyone posted on the fact||
Has anyone posted on the fact that Pinkel declined be interviewed for the job? WTF ar ewe trying to interview Pinkel for? We are screwed.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||That's the way I'm leaning,||
That's the way I'm leaning, too. Now hopefully it wasn't in favor of choke...er...Hoke.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Haha, where's his PR guy? He||
Haha, where's his PR guy? He would have told him: unless your signature is on the Michigan contract, just lie and say you'll be back, then later say that the circumstances changed.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I agree...or at least, I am||
I agree...or at least, I am hoping that it is "out of respect" for Miles, before Brandon BLOWS EVERYONES' F*ing MINDS and hires Gruden (or Patterson, but preferably Gruden, or brings back RR)
|3 years 36 weeks ago||"awesome...T-shirts!!!"||
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Especially since DB is||
Especially since DB is worried about UM's "brand" and appeal etc. etc. Hoke would not exactly be a marketing coup, except maybe to crabby former UM coaches.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||If it's Hoke, there's no way||
If it's Hoke, there's no way he is announced at the BBall game...too much of a risk that people would boo. It would have to be someone majore like Patterson or Gruden (even announcing Miles at the game might be risky).
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I definitely have to disagree||
I definitely have to disagree here. From the way things have gone down, after Harbaugh said no, it looks like someone else is Plan B, Miles is Plan C, and Hoke is Plan D. I think that Brandon has been stringing Miles along as he attempted to land Plan B. He wanted to keep Miles as a fall-back, so he slow played him...resulting in the bizzarre press-conference we saw today.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I think the fact that we're||
I think the fact that we're not willing to draw any firm conclusions about the winged plane going where it does suggests its not really such an "obvious blunder" to be using it during the coaching search.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||That sounds like something a||
That sounds like something a coach would say who IS about to leave.
No "I" haven't been contacted...my agent has. And why say something as coy as "Why would I leave, I'm having so much fun here" when you could say "I'm not interested in Michigan, only LSU"
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I really don't know if I can||
I really don't know if I can get behind Les. I think oversigning is one of the most unethical things a coach can do. Add on top of that the whole "I don't know who told him to clock it" fiasco, and whatever the other rumors are swirling around here, and it's just plain bad news.
Then again, this makes the comaprison to UK basketball even more appropriate...Les has similar baggage to Calipari. Hopefully the first season results will be similar
|3 years 37 weeks ago||because contracts actually||
because contracts actually take, you know, time for the parties, their agents/lawyers etc. Unless you think he's shuttling himself back and forth between two different conference rooms negotiating two contracts at the same time (which would probably be considered in bad faith in the eyes of the law)
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I feel like many years in the||
I feel like many years in the future people will be talking about how Michigan used to have an epic program the way people talk about Rice and Harvard having been good a long time ago. Seves us right.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||amen||
|3 years 37 weeks ago||How exactly do you imagine||
How exactly do you imagine that we get rid of him after 5-6 years? You can only get rid of a coach if he retires or he sucks for several years and you fire him. You don't cut him after 5-6 years as a top-25 team.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||all reasons we should have||
all reasons we should have kept RR
|3 years 37 weeks ago||he did sign it, read the||
he did sign it, read the release
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Exactly. Plus it means he's||
Exactly. Plus it means he's not in the middl eof negotiations with DB.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Yea, the same players who had||
Yea, the same players who had been hearing he was going to be fired for 10+ weeks straight.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I think it's pretty clear: If||
I think it's pretty clear: If he were in the middle of negotiations with Michigan, he wouldn't have had the time to sign this. If he wasn't in the middle of negotiations with Michigan, he either had been offered, and wasnt interested, or hadnt been offered (which means he probably isn't a candidate, given that DB has had like 36 hours to get in touch)
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Why? What is apparent from||
Why? What is apparent from all of this is that DB did not have solid plan in place. While he might pull something out (looking less and less likely though) the point is that we should never have been in a position where we had to rely on a hail mary in the first place.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||"I didn't want those grapes,||
"I didn't want those grapes, anyway they're probably sour"
Now, don't ask me why a fox would be trying to reach grapes, but that is not the point of this fable. So there you go.
I do wish that JH had tipped his hand earlier. He has to have known that A) he would get NFL offers, B) he would accept an NFL offer over a UM offer, and C) that we went through DB's ridiculous waiting game all in hope sof getting him. On second thought, you're right, F him.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I'm not sure if any of this||
I'm not sure if any of this Gruden love is serious, but if it is, aren't you worried he would just bolt for the NFL after a few years?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Can we at least put the||
Can we at least put the SCHEFTER KNOWS ALL crap to rest now? didn't he say yesterday that the 49ers were off the table? Didn't he say before the bowl game that JH was coming here?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Given the absolute necessity||
Given the absolute necessity of keeping Denard around next year, I think Hoke and his "basketball on grass" BS can take a hike. Unless he wants to be our D-Coordinator.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||You have perfectly||
You have perfectly encapsulated the most insufferable elements of the Michigan fanbase.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Yes, I agree Patterson is all||
Yes, I agree Patterson is all about the money, and he has no passion.
Also, can we stop comparing early-Tressel to Hoke. I mean, Hoke is not a young up-and-comer, he's an aging, slightly-above-average coach, who just happens to have been a coach at Michigan a long time ago.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||amen....Also, I'm not sure||
amen....Also, I'm not sure who the "hotshot" coaches are that he advises we stay away from, but I think most of the names being batted around (Patterson, Peterson, Pelini, Mullen) have already proven that they aren't going to flame out anytime soon. The only one who isn't proven is Hoke.
I can already hear DB next season: They're not saying "booo" they're saying "hooo-ke"
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Hopefully all of this||
Hopefully all of this will be cleared up soon (though we have passed the 24 hr mark already) otherwise we won't be asking for Harbaugh to come save us from ourselves, we'll be asking for June Jones.
One good thing that came out of Arkansas' loss to Ohio State: no talk of Petrino being hired (not that he wouldn't sell his children for a few more dollars)
|3 years 37 weeks ago||I agree, you can't sacrifice||
I agree, you can't sacrifice the short term for the past 6 weeks as DB has done, and then at the last minute, say we have to jump the gun for the sake of a short-term gain. Let's face it, in the short-term we are dead, which was the risk DB ran when he bet the farm on JH.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Hoke is a legitimate||
Hoke is a legitimate candidate, which leaves me feeling like David After Dentist asking "Is this real life?"
|3 years 37 weeks ago||No offense, but this resume'||
No offense, but this resume' does not scream Michigan candidate to me. It screams Connecticut candidate, probably not Pittsburgh candidate. I mean has everyone gone completely crazy...I could stomach losing Denard if it was for JH because everyone wanted him so bad, but there is no way I lose Denard for this also-ran.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||So DB's "pimp hand" is||
So DB's "pimp hand" is actually more of a ham-fist. Way to cover all your bases DB.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Seriously, by what metric is||
Seriously, by what metric is he a great coach? I don't see anything that distinguishes him from 50 other coaches.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||meh..he's maybe "above||
meh..he's maybe "above average" though I'm not sure I'd say he's "good." Although above average might not be right, considering his win-loss record.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Rooney rule...do you know how||
Rooney rule...do you know how many teams were "interested" in Marvin Lewis for years before the Bengals actually looked at him for real?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||also the whole "I don't know||
also the whole "I don't know who told him to clock it" fiasco
|3 years 37 weeks ago||DB has talked about having a||
DB has talked about having a long-term focus...maybe that means enduring a lame duck season next year in the hopes of landing a big name coach a la urban meyer. (not saying I want Urban Meyer, but it would be a big hire)
|3 years 37 weeks ago||What decent D coordinator||
What decent D coordinator would come knowing you have all of one year to improve, and even then might get kicked out.
What if we hired Hoke as D coordinator, with the idea that he replaces RR if things don't improve?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||yea, or better yet, maybe||
yea, or better yet, maybe that James Madison coach is available.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Keeping in mind that we need||
Keeping in mind that we need to keep our next coach for at least 5-6 years (or else become Notre Dame), I really don't like the idea of just grabbing some coach if we don't get JH ... With RR, we're really only committed to him for another year or two.
I really hope DB didn't put us through the last 6+ weeks of craziness simply because he had a hunch JH would come.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||"If Dave Brandon decides to||
"If Dave Brandon decides to keep him we are going to have another 365 days of speculation, rumor and the constant questioning of what RR needs to do to return in 2012."
Your reason for canning him either way: He can't be successful b/c we won't stop moaning about him, so let's keep moaning about him...
how about we could rally around RR and make it less of an impossible situation?
|3 years 37 weeks ago||1. So I guess Rich Rod was a||
1. So I guess Rich Rod was a Michigan Man the day after he was hired?
2. I have no idea what this point is...Carr didn't play at Michigan, and I liked him, ergo, everyone who didn't play at Michigan, I like
3. Since when is going 9-4 at a program like San Diego St. something to brag about? I mean why don't we sign up Bill Stewart, I hear he's going to be available, and he went 9-3 at an AQ school.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||"I think he will be a great||
"I think he will be a great coach somewhere"
If you describe someone as being a "great coach" in the future tense, it's not a ringing endorsement f how he coaches now.
|3 years 37 weeks ago||Auburn also bought a||
Auburn also bought a quarterback.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||I think people are mistaken||
I think people are mistaken if they think the "pro-RR" crowd will suddenly switch allegiance to whomever replaces him if he gets let go. Unlike some, I think Michigan is fallible, and would be making a huge mistake not to give RR another year. The school would be forever diminished in my eyes if he is not given a 4th year and a reasonable chance to develop his players. It will be a knee-jerk reaction to a nonsense coaching controversy stirred up by a lazy media and a (largely) shortsighted fanbase. I will feel this way regardless of how the replacement does.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||I shouldnt have...I think all||
I shouldnt have...I think all the cc stuff is getting to me
|3 years 38 weeks ago||If my comment was offensive,||
If my comment was offensive, it was because I threw Dee under the bus, not because I acknowledged one of JH's criticisms of Michigan
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Speaking of CC, did anyone||
Speaking of CC, did anyone hear Schefter's recent update on JH? he sounded much less convinced to me (but it may only be my imagination) - this time he said the feeling around the league was that JH would not be at Stanford...and that water is wet.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Why should I be rooting for||
Why should I be rooting for the head coach of Stanford? I don't know what a Michigan Man is. I went to Michigan, and there were plenty of people I didn't like, though I assume these people were Michigan Men.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||oh well, he would have||
oh well, he would have lowered our academic standards anyway, right JH?
|3 years 38 weeks ago||He obviously wasn't||
He obviously wasn't all-america but Mallett's transfer is very similar. You don't think Denard will transfer if JH offers him a spot as a WR?
|3 years 38 weeks ago||"the situation has||
"the situation has deteriorated to the point where the program should move in a different direction"
What is this "situation"? it obviously isn't "quality of football displayed on Saturdays" because that has not deteriorated, but actually teriorated over the last 3 years. I think the "situation" is a meaningless story created by a brainless 24 hour newsmedia. Either that or a pathetic reality TV personality. Either way, that is no reason to fire a football coach.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||oh, so that's what you think.||
oh, so that's what you think.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||I'm sure all the "kids should||
I'm sure all the "kids should commit to a school not a coach" people will be very upset if Harbaugh comes here and this kid follows.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Compare RR's first 3 years to||
Compare RR's first 3 years to Harbaugh's first 3 years at Stanford. You probably couldn't predict that Stanford would win 11 games this year based on the data available at that point, I guess.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||I don't know why, but when I||
I don't know why, but when I read the title of this thread, I was sure it was sarcastic
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Can someone tell me why it||
Can someone tell me why it takes two people to write those Gil Thorp cartoons?
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Ok, I don't know whether JH||
Ok, I don't know whether JH has NFL aspirations, but supposing he does (and supposing he also wants to coach at UM - otherwise it's all moot) what are his options? He could coach at UM, then go to the NFL, or he could coach in the NFL and then come back to UM.
I think the latter makes more sense. Coming here first would be problematic for a couple reasons: For one, if he doesn't do really well, the NFL will no longer be an option. If he does do well, he will be expected to stay a long time. Also, I think there will be a growing concern that he can only coach in college. As I said before, I think (personally) that a coach who has been in college for 15-20 yrs is unlikely to leave for the NFL.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||Well, I think that SF was||
Well, I think that SF was only a game or two away from making the playoffs this year (albeit because of a terrible division), so I'm not sure it's such a hard row to hoe.
I also don't think the "golden boy" element is worth nearly as much as you suggest. If he were in RR's place, I think it would buy him an extra year. Also, you have to remember that in four or five years there is going to be another "it" coach, someone who we have to get NOW, or forever miss our chance.
Last, if he does have NFL aspirations, I can't see him committing to UM for more than 4-5 years. I just don't see someone coaching in college for 15-20 years and then going pro. Maybe I'm wrong, and this is not based on anything other than a hunch.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||nm , point already made||
nm , point already made directly below...neg away
|3 years 38 weeks ago||My favorite part: "Under||
My favorite part: "Under Harbaugh, the Cardinal improved to 4-8 in 2007, 5-7 in '08 and 8-5 in '09" FIRE THAT MAN!
|3 years 38 weeks ago||"NFL coaches last about 3-4||
"NFL coaches last about 3-4 years on average. Maybe Harbaugh wants more job security than that? "
I'm assuming this was some sort of joke... Please be some sort of joke.
|3 years 38 weeks ago||I can only imagine where we'd||
I can only imagine where we'd be if we had an offseason under RR without any coaching change question or other nonsense. I guess it looks like we'll never know
|3 years 39 weeks ago||"How many of the current||
"How many of the current class would de-commit because a BCS - qualifying coach just showed up, a coach who put different guys at the Heisman finalists ceremony in back to back years?"
Well you might only think it will be one or two guys, but the fact is that more than that have already stated that they WOULD leave if there were a coaching change. Do you think they were just kidding? Do you really think D. Hart wants to be the next Toby Gerhart?
|3 years 39 weeks ago||"he seems to not know how to||
"he seems to not know how to put together a winning defense...It is Rodriguez judgment about recruiting on defense which is partly to blame for his current lame duck status don't forget."
Uhmm...did you forget the Decimated Defense? Most of our troubles can be traced to injuries, academics, NFL Draft etc., not recruiting.
Also, I was not embarrased by the banquet, and I think most people who say they were will think whatever espn tells them to think.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||As much as I hate to admit||
As much as I hate to admit it, Rosenberg's explanation probably is the most likely . There are plausible (albeit, less likely ) alternative explanations:
1. DB really wants to see what this team can do with a few weeks to get healthy and get coached up
2. DB believes it would be untenable to voice support for RR now from a public relations standpoint, but believes that a strong bowl performance might make it possibe.
3. DB wants to see what Harbaugh can do against a (somewhat) worthy opponent. Methinks that if the Oregon game had been later in the season, there would be less chatter.
My question is, if Rosenberg is right, why wouldn't RR ask for his walking papers now so that he can look elsewhere in time to find another gig? Would he be within his rights to do this, or is he basically held hostage by DB?
|3 years 41 weeks ago||Well, not too long ago,||
Well, not too long ago, people were saying that DB was assuring all the recruits that RR would be back. If that is still going on, I'm not sure what the consequences of his saying nothing for a month are...other than higher traffic on mgoblog. One way to read his statement is that he intends to fire A coach, just maybe not the head coach. If he were to make a statement saying he intends to keep RR, the next question would be 'what about Gerg' and I just don't think he wants to go there.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||Well if we crush our opponent||
Well if we crush our opponent in the bowl game and Stanford gets crushed in theirs, I think it would be hard for Brandon to switch, even if that's his plan.
|3 years 41 weeks ago||Impact on The Decision?||
Does anyone know whether Brandon will get the input of the players before making his Decision, or can the players ask for an audience?
|3 years 42 weeks ago||"the turnover margin which||
"the turnover margin which shows no signs of getting better"
Seriously? I have no idea what your basis for this statement is. Look no further than who ahs been our starting quarterback (interceptions have accounted for 14-15 TOs/season)
'08 - quarterback was Threet/Sheridan
'09 - First-time starting quarterback (Tate)
'10 - First-time starting quarterback (Denard)
Given that next year will be the first time we will have a starting quarterback who is both experienced and talented, I see plenty of reason to think our TO margin will improve.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||Michigan is winning games.||
Michigan is winning games. Seven (maybe eight) this year to be specific.
|3 years 42 weeks ago||I agree||
I agree that RR will wind up at another top program and we will regret the decision to can him after three years based on the incoherent whining of Michigan's win-now fanbase.
On a side note, I think that some of RR's supporters on this blog share some of the blame for the current negative sentiment about keeping him. Before the OSU game many talked endlessly about how we had a shot to pull the upset given our high-powered offense. Unfortunately, this was a double-edged sword. When people started thinking we had an outside chance at a W, the clubbing we received looked even worse. RR's supporters should have been honest in their assesment from the beginning: we had NO chance to beat OSU this year (or any other top 10-15 team). But that does not not mean we won't have a chance next year...unless we start rebuilding again. Give RR a chance, if he fails next year fine, but at least any coach offered the job will know he will get a fair shake.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Well if you find the dialogue||
Well if you find the dialogue constructive, why not allow it this week? Isn't the whole point of a sports blog to debate things like this? I thought your post was based on the premise that the negativity is misguided, shortsighted and counterproductive, and therefore should be tamped down for a week.
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Well, the "decision" is not||
I think suggesting that the RR haters engage in "analysis" is giving them way too much credit. On the whole, they remind me more of Veruca Salt..."I want 10 wins NOW"
|3 years 43 weeks ago||Huh?||
"No one should have expected anything but a poor to mediocre defense this year. But we should expect players that tackle, pursue, and have proper assignments--regardless of experience and talent."
If our defense could tackle, pursue and have proper assignments, where exactly did you expect them to be poor/mediocre?
Also, why are you unwilling to attribute proper tackling techniques and pursuit angles to inexperience? That seems to be directly a result of our defense starting so many freshman.
|3 years 44 weeks ago||No, I think you just missed||
No, I think you just missed my point. My point was that seasons such as the current one are not unheard of in recent memory. My point would have been the same whether those two seasons had been consecutive or if there had been three undefeated seasons in between.
|3 years 44 weeks ago||uh...||
"we went from a Big 10 leader to a mediocre team"
Hmmm...in 2007 we were 8-4. In 2005, we were 6-5.
"I don't see it improving much in the future."
well, I guess you somehow missed the improvement from 3 wins to 5 wins to 7+ wins.
If you want to wear a paper bag on your head, fine, but remember that you're supposed to cut holes in it for your eyes.
|3 years 44 weeks ago||decimated perspective||
I don't know, I took the 'decimated defense' to heart, and basically expected the sort of play we've seen over the past 10 games. Add to that the loss of Floyd and Woolfolk, and the periodic loss of Martin, and I would have to say that this defense is performing better than should reasonably be expected. I get the sense that people are just in the mood for a bloodletting.
One side note, if we ditch Greg Robinson this year, and only end up with 7 or 8 wins next year, the next neck on the chopping block is RichRods.
|3 years 45 weeks ago||see below||
|3 years 45 weeks ago||to be clear||
I find parallels between the two situations. Calipari, like RR has been under intense media scrutiny. Because of this scrutiny, both are often lambasted on blogs, message boards etc. These commenters often just parrot back whatever headlines they hear. In both cases, the actual details of the infractions are must different than the received knowledge suggests. With Calipari, he was the one to report Camby, and no one has ever suggested that he knew Rose's SAT was bogus. Nonetheless, he gets the sort of attacks seen here. With RR, despite many personal attacks on his character and his concern for his players, the facts show that any violations were somewhere between minor and insignificant. In both cases, the general population doesn't care what the "facts" are, they only care what the headline says and what can be easily shouted across a sportsbar and/or message board. I expected more from the readers of this blog, who in general strike me as a cool-headed lot.
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Wow||
I guess this whole thread shows what happens when the shoe is on the other foot?
|3 years 45 weeks ago||The reason he was caught last||
The reason he was caught last year was because of the heart showed by that courageous, hard-working young man from East St. Louis.
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Didn't everyone agree at the||
Didn't everyone agree at the beginning of the season that M would have a poor, inexperienced defense? Giving up tons of yards and not learning from their mistakes is what poor, inexperienced defenses do. What else did you expect?
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Does Illinois still have that||
Does Illinois still have that brave young man from East St. Louis? If he's gone, that could explain the point spread.