to play football, not to play trumpet
|4 days 14 hours ago||ha||
Spoken like a guy who is not, um, currently taking measurements in his mom's pants, ifyouknowwhatImean.
|4 days 14 hours ago||Rashan Kekua||
But seriously Kekoa Crawford. Why? Because he changed his name. Bear with me.
It's easy to forget that these are kids, going off to college for the first time. The first big reminder of that I got this year was when Rashan Gary's mom was surprised by the weather in California. Like, oh, these aren't all already jaded people who have been everywhere and seen everything. But the second was Crawford's name change. He is headed out of the house and off to college, where he gets to reinvent himself, and we get to watch it.
So that's who I'm most excited about.
|4 days 15 hours ago||I haven't had a single problem today||
You guys are addicts.
|4 days 15 hours ago||Found him||
I love that his post is the next one right after yours. Wait, are you him? Another Discuss man/RDT situation here?
|4 days 16 hours ago||um photoshop fail||
How is Lloyd Brady not in that picture?
|1 week 12 hours ago||uh oh||
Clearly a Wisconsin sleeper agent. And just when they're about to rejoin our conference (schedule).
|1 week 20 hours ago||lol||
Erik Swenson, come on down!
|1 week 3 days ago||Fix the title||
Should read "Brian Cole Moving To Istanbul"
|1 week 3 days ago||omg yes||
Somebody tweet it at Brian so he sees it. Must happen.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yeah, that was rough||
I really liked that girl. I thought we had something. I mean, I just thought she told me to take all my official visits because she really cared about me.
|1 week 3 days ago||jmfc||
This is an absolutely terrible story. I hope you and your daughter are coping.
|1 week 3 days ago||lol moving to istanbul||
I feel like Brian and Seth are not the kind of guys who will make fun of you an appropriate amount for that story. Just let me know if you need some extra crap for it.
|1 week 4 days ago||It's hard to generalize from Illinois anyway||
Illinois was in the midst of all kinds of academic and fundraising scandals when Beckman got fired. I'm not sure he would have been fired so readily if he had been a better coach and the administration wasn't already so beleaguered. But it was an appropriate response, and I hope TAMU takes their responsibilities here equally seriously.
|1 week 4 days ago||Texas A&M should do something about it||
I don't actually see how TAMU's lawyers can allow them not to crack down on this. The legal liability for any future re-injuries would be ridiculous.
|1 week 4 days ago||Which year are you counting as the first for Peppers?||
If Denard doesn't count as a star after his first year despite taking that first bobbled snap to the house, Jabrill shouldn't either. (This may point to a general distortion in the rankings from redshirts.)
|1 week 5 days ago||ha||
That skinny yellow stick looks like a tape measure to me.
|1 week 5 days ago||Interesting menagerie, that.||
Interesting menagerie, that.
|1 week 5 days ago||Um...||
Are you thinking of the Committee on Institutional Cooperation? That's almost coextensive with the B1G, but the B1G was always an athletic thing. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference#History.
|1 week 5 days ago||So not that easy||
Pretty sure Charlie Sheen's approach was to get HIV first and then to go totally off the deep end.
|1 week 5 days ago||Yeah yeah||
And I read it as "tomato tomato" so we're all special little flowers.
|1 week 5 days ago||here you go|
|1 week 5 days ago||Both.||
|1 week 5 days ago||That sounds like an awesome trip||
Any recommendations on which of those cities (aside from Paris) to visit for someone who only has time for 1 or 2?
|1 week 5 days ago||We're gonna need that in a||
We're gonna need that in a spreadsheet.
|1 week 5 days ago||What year?||
If it was 2009, it could've been me.
|1 week 5 days ago||I didn't see any in central||
I didn't see any in central China, but there were also groups of schoolchildren who had never actually seen an American in person before, so I guess that makes sense.
|1 week 6 days ago||The full list of places I haven't seen M gear is super long||
But why would anyone want to live in Turkmenistan?
|1 week 6 days ago||Only bad news on that front lately||
There used to be a dude in Amsterdam with a Michigan coat. But I'm pretty sure he had no idea what the logo on the coat was. He was certainly confused when I gave him a "go blue!" one day. (I also used to see a lot of White Sox baseball caps in Amsterdam. Their wearers never knew what the logo was. They just liked how it looked.)
I haven't seen any in Belgium, unless you count stuff on my family members, and I've even been to towns where the basketball team played back in 2010.
I did see a guy wander by my window in an MSU hoodie once. First European sighting of MSU gear ever for me. Super gross.
|1 week 6 days ago||Doesn't the offer generate||
Doesn't the offer generate recognition, rather than the committing to it?
|1 week 6 days ago||ugh||
Donovan Peoples-Jones is not a guy we want alienated by worries about whether Michigan's offer might just disappear at some point. This is one of many reasons why pulling offers is garbage: it's bad strategy (in addition to being wrong).
|1 week 6 days ago||Yes, exactly this||
You're a former player, right? I'm glad a former player is saying it. I hope you say it directly to Harbaugh.
This is what Bacon's sense of "This is Michigan" is all about. And pulling scholarships after you offer kids and they commit to you is not good enough for Michigan.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||anfractuous*||
Nerd cred points still slightly incremented upwards for the obscure word, despite the misspelling.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Wieners! Wieners!||
Um, enjoy that specialty, I guess.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||The issue is whether Michigan's word is good||
You start by giving him four years on the scholarship he was offered. It's not a gray area.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||If the scholarship offer was pulled, it was necessarily shady||
There are two possibilities:
1. The offer was pulled.
The NCAA already allows medical scholarships for Austin Hatch-like situations. There are also academic qualification hurdles that prospective student-athletes have to clear, and there are exceptions for seriously bad conduct built into offers of admission to the school. There is no indication that anything like that happened here. In cases like this, attempts to revoke offers should be treated like defensive neutral zone infractions: if your offer provoked a commitment, you don't get to jump back later and pretend like it never happened. It's just shady.
2. The offer was not pulled, and Swenson's side is lying.
I doubt this happened, if only because he will get exposed sooner or later by other recruits in the class who know what happened. But if so, I will admit I was wrong.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Overblown||
Take a deep breath, folks. It was shady. It's going to generate bad press. Hopefully he doesn't make it a habit.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||The Freep ran the Tribune's||
The Freep ran the Tribune's editorial. Papers do that sometimes.
You know all those stories marked AP? Those are written by Associated Press employees and published in whole by papers all the time.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Do you need to refinance a mortgage?||
I think Brian knows a guy that will refinance your mortgage whether you wear pants or not. Might be for you.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yes||
That is also a view.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Well, that settles it.||
Harbaugh did wrong. It's official now that Paul fucking Finebaum has said otherwise.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||This is shady af||
I am disappointed anyone would defend it. Boo this.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||in which i am uncharitably crass||
I'm not sure you have to publish everything you write.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||good point||
I hereby redirect my ire at 247 for not putting this crap behind a paywall where the unsuspecting public doesn't have to see it. That also has the added benefit of keeping it where it can't detract from 247's reputation among potential subscribers.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||($)||
I'd have been ok with this hot take held behind the paywall.
|3 weeks 5 hours ago||CNN has terrible ratings||
Pretty sure that's the joke.
|3 weeks 15 hours ago||If you trust wikipedia||
They are third cousins once removed.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||apparently||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||...||
Did you really post your comment almost an hour and a half after mine, and then claim that I edited it after you posted (which, btw, is not something I can do)? Just checking.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||ha, i wish i checked this thread again sooner||
A 2006 Pontiac G6 V6 is exactly what I have. (Had to replace its transmission cooler lines last year, because it was a GM.)
|3 weeks 4 days ago||jmfc||
The YouTube video is of an academic explaining the difference between nonsensical bluster about Muslims and truths about extremist regimes to CNN anchors. Don't be such an egregious troll.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||huh||
Those are nice swim trunks. Do want.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||oh come on||
If you want to pretend to be up on who discusses what about the "Muslim and/or Arab world" you should probably try to figure out how to correctly characterize the countries where the issues you are worried about are serious problems.
Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pjxPR36qFU
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Hope it fucks them||
Boooooo. Not fair. We had to expand to get a championship game. So should they. If this happens, I hope it works out so that the wrong team wins it, causing the Big 12 to miss out on the playoff.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Almost||
Not using a quote to ask for her number seems like cheating. But he was close.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||not sure, but i think you missed the point||
I don't think being successful at the NFL level guarantees success at the college level. But I do think that coaches who have success at both levels are, all else equal, better than coaches who have success at only one level.
Harbaugh has had a hell of a lot of success at both levels, and it seems pretty clear that he had more success at Stanford than Saban did at MSU. So if Harbaugh can win some rings at Michigan in the rest of his career, which I think he can, then there'll be a real argument, and the NFL stuff will be relevant to it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||i have a car q for you||
Do GM transmissions still suck shit? Or have they finally done something about it?
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Sucked in the NFL||
Not convinced he's better than Harbaugh. Let's hope there's enough time left in both of their careers to find out.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Love that guy||
The big problem with running a corrupt organization is the number of people that you need to lie for you. Eventually somebody with integrity comes along and tells it like it is. Good for him.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I'd guess it's because||
I'd guess it's because offenses generally need to put together multiple pretty good plays in a drive to score, but defenses only need to put together one great play to end a drive. Even if you stick to pretty good plays (and so don't consider forcing turnovers), the defense ends a drive with three in a row, and an offense needs more than that to score.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||?||
As far as I can tell, nobody suggested there was a conspiracy to poison anyone. What are you talking about?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||lol||
A Republican governor's "emergency financial managers" (i.e., autocrats) disenfranchise and then negligently and irreparably poison a city full of poor black people, after which the administration orchestrates a failed cover up, and you're afraid of "partisan coverage" that might make that look bad?
North Korea claims they just detonated a hydrogen bomb. You better learn Korean or Chinese quick so you can get import some fair and balanced coverage of that shit.
But seriously the facts are that Snyder's terribly shortsighted and fundamentally anti-democratic emergency financial managers have proven themselves capable of wreaking havoc worse than anyone might have predicted. Democracy might not be all kittens and tea parties, but Snyder has shown once again that the alternatives are far worse.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||could be bad...||
I haven't seen any video or anything, but I wonder about this. If he seemed oddly quiet, it could be that he disagrees with his mom and doesn't want to air it out in public. That would be bad for M. Anyway, we'll find out when the time comes. No need to read the tea leaves.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||yeah it would've been this||
And this would be bad, because it would've meant the B1G going 0fer in 3 playoff games instead of 1-2 as things were.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||little weird, old man||
What the hell was that? An impression of something?
Anyway I upvoted you for your youthful vigor.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Heiko! Heiko! Heiko! Heiko!||
Heiko! Heiko! Heiko! Heiko!
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Ouch.||
It's a real shame, especially when this happens so late in a career. Fortunately the OP oversold it a bit. He'll have torn some stuff in his knee. Hopefully he recovers soon and it doesn't cost him too much money in the draft.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||if this is the loophole, eliminate the rule||
If you can actually get away with it by this reasoning, there is no reason to have the rule in the first place. The NCAA should just explicitly say that student-athletes can be taken to attend bowl/playoff games in football or in all sports or whatever.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Interesting question||
I would like to see an actual explanation of why this wouldn't have been a violation, instead of people just rejecting the question as not worth discussing.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||took him a little bit to arrive at the correct view of his role||
I thought he got off to a rough start by pissing a select few student groups off by making (what were in the grand scheme of things pretty damn innocuous) political comments on Twitter. But he met with those students and has since been pretty good about being a figure that everybody on campus can get behind. That's important for a football coach, whatever you think of the political sensitivities of students.
And I think he has done nothing else wrong. Go Harbaugh!
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Right||
But that's in episode 2.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||ESPN's journalistic incompetence is stunning||
ESPN ran with a denial by a person who stands to lose his livelihood for illegal practices as if it were conclusive fact. The faster that bloated network dies, the better.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||So...does it get more interesting after episode 2?||
My wife and I are trying to watch this but midway through episode 2 I can't see how there's enough material for another 8 episodes. I don't mean to sound crass, but does it get more interesting?
|6 weeks 4 hours ago||Cincinnati's athletic programs should be shut down||
The revelations here are absurd. The NCAA should throw Cincinnati out in every sport. Cincinnati's president should close the athletic department. Despicable stuff.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah||
I half suspect Episode VII will be judged the worst Star Wars of all 20 years from now. This is coming from a guy who liked the prequels, so take it with a grain of salt, but I think remaking A New Hope with bits of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi thrown in was incredibly short-sighted. I'm disappointed in Disney for choosing J.J. Abrams, who made a movie that is nothing more than glorified fan fic.
I wonder if we'll ever find out what Lucas's original plot for the sequels was.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Preposterous||
What's out of kilter is that universities have lost adequate state support, which they have had to make up for with out of state students who will pay full freight, who are as a matter of well-understood fact most efficiently recruited through the construction of exorbitant recreational facilities. That's a reality created by fundamentally incompetent state governance, and it's hastening the destruction of the American university system.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||German universities are good||
It depends on the country and the institution. Italy, for example, has a very bad reputation; Germany good.
Anecdote: I met a guy visiting Michigan from TU Delft in the Netherlands at a football game once. He did naval engineering, which is what the Dutch are best at. I asked him what Michigan had to offer Delft. He laughed and said, "nothing. We're helping you."
To the other guy, I live in Belgium, not Germany. But I was in Germany for the past week. Google "Krampuslauf" if you want to see something really fucking weird.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Congratulations! On the||
On the tuition front, my kids are going to college in Germany, where it is free, and they can pound sand if they don't like it.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Makes sense||
Harbaugh can recommend him, so it makes sense Durkin would hire him. But it also means Jim didn't want him here, or he'd have gotten him instead of recommending him to Durkin.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||This is actually more or less right||
"In fond memory of Bob, this scholarship is awarded to the senior football player who demonstrates the most enthusiasm and love for U-M."
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Good||
If he plays his cards right, he has a good chance to be a defensive captain at Michigan by his third or fourth year. That's an incredible opportunity to have in front of you.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Arbitration clause is interesting||
Sounds like Sark has an arbitration clause in his contract that he wants out of. See sec. 61 on p. 15 of the complaint.
The NYTimes recently did a series of articles on the increasing use and abuse of arbitration clauses. I'll be interested to see what the court says in Sark's case.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||oh God||
Don't scare him with that prospect.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||That would be great||
The AD job can get shortchanged for all I care. The whole problem with DB was that he felt like he had to make a bunch of changes because he was getting paid to do stuff. If he had done nothing but fundraise, things would have been much better.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||on writing quickly||
I learned something amazing about the capacity of humans to write quickly recently. First, John Steinbeck wrote a full draft of Grapes of Wrath between May and October of 1938, and the edits were done by February 1939. That's 5 months for a draft and 9 months for the complete production of a 600 page American classic. Second, he did this while simultaneously dealing with the purchase of a 47 acre ranch to keep his wife happy, his publisher going bankrupt, his wife having surgery, and a friend trying to arrange a film version of another of his books. His productivity during 1938 really boggles the mind.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Why 25%?||
It should just be anybody in your line of command, from your position coach to the coordinator on your side of the ball to the head coach.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Don't worry||
The volume of discussion about this is crazy. Harbaugh has a great track record hiring coaches, right? And you can be sure he knows everyone worth knowing in a business as small as big-time football coaching. He'll know who he wants, and he'll knows who he wants if he can't get that guy, on down the line. Keep calm, everybody.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Ugh||
I also cannot not see it now, you big jerk.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks!||
Just commenting so I can find the thread later.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||It's hard to tell exactly,||
It's hard to tell exactly, but the video looks to me like Coach K ran into Max and Max gave him the old "get off me" shoulder. K's fault. Go Max!
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Well...||
Somebody is our Harbaugh! :-)
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Why can't they comment?||
He's not a commit anymore. I would be surprised if there were an NCAA rule that covers whether you can comment on random high school students.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Gary is mentioned...but no real update?||
Nothing interesting on Gary?
|9 weeks 5 days ago||good||
I am surprised this kind of stuff doesn't happen more often, but it's good to see it get called out in a case like this.
I suppose it's also good that the wealthy Southern onlooker who couldn't hear the conversation is convinced nothing untoward happened when three people were subjected to extra scrutiny for behaving as if they were students. People should do what they can to sleep well at night. It's healthy.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Right||
Which is why our questionably literate friend wanted to contribute his own racist perspective and self-referentially observe the presence of mental midgets.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Depends on how much disposable cash you have||
I have 3 Michigan degrees, so I've gotten complementary one-year memberships three times, and I've never used any of them for anything. (Well, I did leave one of the little block M decals they send you with your membership card on a window in a house I rented from some Buckeyes in Ohio.)
My dad, on the other hand, has always been a member, and he does a fair amount of stuff through the alumni association. I think he goes to one or two events with the local alumni association each year, and we did a couple of Rose Bowl packages in the mid-'00s. There are some benefits of doing things through the alumni association. On bowl trips, you get to go to pre-game pep rallies where the band shows up and various administrators and coaches give speeches and stuff like that. But it is not generally the cheapest way to do anything: you pay face for tickets, you pay more for their hotel and tour packages than you would pay if you booked something on your own, etc.
So I think it depends a lot on how much scratch you want to spend on Michigan stuff, and if you would be interested in having the opportunity to do some first-rate but generally more expensive stuff.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Option defense||
I was really disappointed in the option defense. I don't know what the scheme is supposed to be, but it sure as hell looked like we were trying to defend option plays with a single defender all day long.
I thought it was coaching malpractice live, but it would be kind of surprising if I knew what I was looking at, so I am looking forward to hearing an explanation.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Ghent, Belgium. Go!||
Ghent, Belgium. Go!
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Dude||
Buy your 14 year old kid a cell phone. You're just being a bastard. He needs one to communicate with his friends like a normal person. Welcome to the new millenium.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Nobody's gonna say North||
Nobody's gonna say North Carolina? I know we don't play them really, but I hate them more than anyone else. After that, MSU and IU, but I grew up in Indiana.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Weird MGoQuestions||
No question about how the DL fixed the stretch problems from Indiana?
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Did we know Ross was called||
Did we know Ross was called Biggs before?
|11 weeks 1 day ago||If it's not Alabama, the sec champ should not get in.||
That conference is fucking awful this year.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Read it again, Geaux||
He's talking about OSU beating MSU.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Amazing||
Posts like this are why the internet exists.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||This thread title made me crack up||
But I realized, while trying to cheer for OSU, that I don't care who wins. We beat MSU. (Shut up with your circus-dependent facts.) If we beat OSU, too, then as far as I'm concerned we won the B1G. This has already been a great year. The Game matters again. The Game matters enough. That's true even if we have to watch MSU lose to Iowa in Indy.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||That game||
That game is why I think PSU was a better #3 rival than MSU. I hope they get themselves together at some point.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||I hope FSU beats Florida and||
I hope FSU beats Florida and then Florida beats Alabama in the SEC championship game. I want to see the SEC left out of this year's playoff.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||brutal and unfair||
And brutally unfair. I didn't know that was him until this moment, and I'm here every day. But don't even try putting that outcome on him.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||my (pretty vague) proposed change||
They need to allow retroactive enforcement to get it right every time. This probably means they can't immediately throw people out, except in extremely clear cases. I kind of like Brian's yellow card/red card idea. But I also think the bans need to have the potential to be for longer than one game, especially for repeat offenders. And coaches need to be disciplined, too, with significant fines and even game bans for head and position coaches of teams that do this on a regular basis.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||How do you get anything from||
How do you get anything from this vine? I'd need a better video that's zoomed in or slowed down to judge what happened there.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Not sure about your appeal claim||
Don't you get access to a much more thorough appeals process if you are sentenced to death?
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Thanks!||
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Praise be unto thee||
Any idea if you'll be able to get the earlier Beilein vs Beilein game? Hard to watch these things from Europe given that I don't want to stay up till 3 am to watch us crush less talented teams live.
|12 weeks 14 hours ago||Why aren't we talking about the possibility of 2 Big Ten teams?||
Michigan and OSU both into the playoff would be just fine by me. I'll grant that it's a little ridiculous, but I really don't know why anybody thinks this year's SEC deserves a spot.
|12 weeks 17 hours ago||He was raving||
He didn't just look like an angry person to me. He was kind of stumbling around and failing to get his feet as he raged. No question in my mind that targeting should've been at least called and reviewed.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||They don't care||
Mike was cooling on him anyway.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||fuck all of you||
1. Waffle Crisp did not win.
2. I am in Europe where I can't get any of this shit so I have to eat fucking muesli every time you pricks make me hungry for cereal.
(3. Just getting it in ahead of time in case we lose another game.)
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I got so much work done||
I got so much work done today.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||ha||
Well, you see, they told all those kids they were selling results rather than hope, and the kids can probably look at the games on the field and determine whose results they are going to want to buy for the next four years.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Lewan is a bad comparison||
His missteps went rather beyond seeming like a doofus.
(Btw, I assume you actually know this, but Beilein's first name is John.)
|12 weeks 5 days ago||team breakdown so far||
M - 3
ILL - 1
IU - 4
MD - 3
MSU - 1
NW - 2
PU - 1
UW - 2
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah, I figured that was the||
Yeah, I figured that was the theory. But you know I just have to complain about something.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Hmm||
Can I also hit THE COMMENTS to complain that your summary of last time shouldn't just be you whining about the stupid strategy you yourself adopted last time? Just checking! I <3 draftageddons. Do we get diagrams again? Can you make basketball diagrams yet? (If I bet you that you can't, will the dime store negative psychology work?)
|12 weeks 5 days ago||It's Waffle Crisp and you can||
It's Waffle Crisp and you can all go fuck yourselves if you disagree.
Mmm. So good.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Lol "incubate overnight"||
I'm surprised I didn't wake anyone up laughing at that.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Right||
Yes, those are some of the reasons mentioned in favor of CCTs instead of UCTs. Was there a point?
|13 weeks 4 hours ago||Some progress||
It seems like we are now agreed that the existence of white privilege, as it is conceived of by academics and activists, is compatible with an appropriately nuanced view about the kinds of lived experiences people actually have.
Our remaining disagreement is indeed over matters of opinion, and in particular whether the chosen term is basically bad marketing for people who want to effect change. I mean, my first reaction is to think that you are basically objecting that some people are offended by a term that they haven't bothered trying to understand. Perception, after all, is not actually reality, especially not when the perceivers are not especially responsible interpreters of what is out there to be perceived. But I guess it is important to use rhetoric that your average Joe can get behind when it comes to stuff like this.
The next stage in this debate, if I were a real activist, would be to say that you are trying to police the tone of people who complain about white privilege, and that they spent many decades trying to make their points politely, and that being nice and not making white people uncomfortable didn't work. (This is typically what activists say to advice about marketing.) One might also argue that what "divides blacks and whites" is racist institutions, and not the language used to describe racist institutions.
Anyway, the objection you are now making is not confused about what "white privilege" is. Good. Go Blue.
|13 weeks 12 hours ago||Go for it||
My only problem with not having cable is that I live on Central European Time right now, which means I'm asleep during live streams of basketball games, and I'm not sure where I can watch them for free when I'm actually awake.
|13 weeks 12 hours ago||Not so fast||
This probably sounds very plausible to many people, but it's likely to be false. AFAIK, the best evidence we have suggests that governments giving people cash directly works to alleviate poverty. See, e.g., http://www.economist.com/news/international/21588385-giving-money-directly-poor-people-works-surprisingly-well-it-cannot-deal, whence
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||I don't care if he agrees with my POV||
But I do care that he doesn't mislead everybody reading this about what the issues are. What he is doing is roughly equivalent to somebody saying you shouldn't talk on the internet because you'll use up all of your monthly allotment of text messages. It just doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense because what he doesn't understand what is being claimed by people who talk about white privilege. See our exchange upthread for clarification of my view here. IDK how he will react to that, but as far as I can tell, what I was complaining about should now be very clear.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||This is pretty much exactly what I thought you'd say||
Let's agree that "white privilege" means the following:
But that is not the same thing as what you follow it up with:
You cannot generalize from the existence of white privilege to white people in general having all of these things, unless you qualify it more carefully. You could say, roughly, that white people have greater access to jobs than otherwise equivalently situated black people, that white people are freer to speak openly than otherwise equivalently situated black people, etc. But nothing about the existence of white privilege--nothing about the existence of "unearned social status acquired as the result of having light skin"--would require random white people to have more social mobility, etc., than Michael Jordan. That is just a mistake you are making about what it is for white privilege, qua "unearned social status," to exist.
Now, every single thing you say next is 100% consistent with what everyone serious who talks about "white privilege" believes.
Literally everybody knows this. Everybody knows Michael Jordan exists. Everybody knows Honey Boo Boo exists. And we simply have no reason to believe that any part of what you say there is inconsistent with any part of what the students are talking about when they talk about white privilege.
Again, the not-so-nice, not-so-neat story you wish to tell is fully compatible with the existence of white privilege, as it is commonly understood. So when you say the following, you make it clear that you just do not know what you are talking about.
People who talk about white privilege, or "who propose the theory of 'white privilege'," do not have a nice and neat story. I mean, maybe the person who coined the term was some kind of Neanderthal dipshit. IDK. But that is just not how the notion of white privilege functions in the discourse you are trying to criticize.
You should read up on intersectionality, seriously. You would like it. It would probably even help you formulate your point, which I suspect is ultimately quite reasonable, in a way that does not make you come off as sounding like you just don't know what "white privilege" actually means.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||Read it again, Sal||
I am not defending a theory. I merely pointed out that you do not know what "white privilege" means as it is being used by the students.
But if you want to discuss it further, to keep this manageable, please find the post where I asked you to clearly state what you think "white privilege" means and respond to that and the other question I asked there.
|13 weeks 13 hours ago||It is a cultural issue.||
There is no chicken or egg issue here. Poverty and dysfunction were the joint consequences of slavery. They were the joint consequences of decades of white terrorism in the South during Reconstruction. More recently they were the joint consequences of the Philadelphia police intentionally bombing and burning down dozens and dozens of homes in 1985.
I could give more examples but that would be "political" so I'll leave it at this: there is no chicken or egg issue here.
ETA: Huh. This showed up in the wrong place. Well, the blockquote will have to suffice.
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||Ok, let's try this||
Can you please state for me what you think "white privilege" means as these students are using it, and why you think it
Spare me the name-dropping and just answer the question directly, please. I assume we have at least 5 degrees between us, so we both know it's not impressive to bloviate.
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||You don't know me, bro.||
Why doesn't it sound like I do? Any more questions?
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||Um, sure||
The poster doesn't share my definition, but is nevertheless pretending to criticize discourse about white privilege without knowing what "white privilege" means as it functions in that discourse. It's nothing more than a straw man fallacy, unbeknownst to the poster though that may be.
The fact is that when you are trying to criticize the use of a notion in some political discourse, it matters that you get the notion you are trying to criticize right. If you criticize some random other idea that nobody is talking about and nobody believes in, you are either confused (as I believe is the case here) or being intellectually dishonest in a rhetorical attempt to gain points with your audience. Since there is no reason to be intellectually dishonest here, I assume the poster is actually as confused about what "white privilege" means in the discourse under discussion as it would appear.
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||Dude||
You literally do not know how "white privilege" is defined. You are making objections to a position you have imagined. The resolution of the entire debate may be subjective, whatever you mean by that, but what the positions in the debate are is not subjective. You are wrong about what the positions in the debate are.
It is very clear from your posts that you simply do not know what "white privilege" means, because you falsely imagine it to be incompatible with the existence of struggling white people. This is just a fact about your ignorance of what the term "white privilege" means, and your confusion over what the existence of white privilege entails.
|13 weeks 14 hours ago||Speech in the constitutional sense is really broad||
Kim Davis not doing her job is plausibly political speech. I suspect not playing would be political speech. But he didn't say he wouldn't coach, so IDK what the point here is.
Edit: I'm not editing the original comment as it appears in the previous paragraph, but I actually think I was wrong here. Davis is protected by religious rights, not speech rights. Anyway the last sentence stands.
|13 weeks 16 hours ago||The actual answer||
From what I can tell, the Rubicon got crossed here when he allowed his driver and his police force, all of whom I believe answer ultimately to him, to basically make violent threats towards the students who confronted him during the parade. He should have defused the situation by guaranteeing them meetings, instead of having police brandish pepper spray canisters to end the protest.
|13 weeks 17 hours ago||Remarkably confused||
Take a deep breath, google intersectionality, and then try to figure out what the blindingly obvious response to your entirely confused criticism of the notion of privilege is. Seriously, if you think the existence of lower class whites and upper class blacks somehow constitutes an objection to the basic notion on race-based privilege, you just do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about. You should not talk about it on the internet until you can do so without saying such embarrassingly stupid things. You're really confused. Please work on it. Maybe you could start by reading one of the very many articles devoted to explaining the notion of white privilege to socioeconomically disadvantaged white people.
|13 weeks 17 hours ago||Seems illegal||
I'd be surprised if his speech here weren't protected. Mizzou is a state school and cannot punish constitutionally protected speech. At a minimum, they'd be asking for serious legal bills if they fired Pinkel for this. But that's why you're a guy on the internet and not in charge of anything.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||The SEC is fucking terrible this year||
I'm not sure why anybody other than Alabama and LSU is even ranked. They're all awful.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||...||
What a complete and total nightmare. I can't even imagine losing one of my children. My condolences to his family. I hope they are able to find solace somehow.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||That is sick||
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Ah, I see||
So your eyes are on the cheerleaders? Makes sense.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Protect the broccoli!||
You're not carrying that broccoli in your inside arm, are you?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||man||
Do basketball games turn up on MGoVideo? I really don't want to get up at 3 am to watch us play Le Moyne.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Bah||
Rule 2 is for cowards.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||Were you wearing pants? Was||
Were you wearing pants? Was Matt?
|13 weeks 3 days ago||You can say "pants" twice in the UFR post||
But if you don't talk about pants in the ad, how are we supposed to know the proper attire in which to call Matt?
Don't worry. I'll be here all week. And I'll always be that guy.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||yeah...||
Is this space officially predicting that Dantonio takes the opportunity to get out of East Lansing before the wheels fall off now that Narduzzi is gone?
|13 weeks 4 days ago||That works better||
Right, Brian could have given an example backed up by real sources. Since he was trying to make a point about journalistic credibility, he should have. That's all.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||I mean, I didn't start it||
Brian linked discreditable nonsense like it was serious in a comment on journalistic credibility. But since he is not Dave Brandon, he'll be able to take criticism about it, so it's ok.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||this was great||
I made my wife, who is from Georgia and graduated from UGA, watch this. She was amazed to learn that people in another Big Ten fanbase say the exact same stuff I always do, right down to the Civil War jokes.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Very interesting||
A very selective move there, Seth! Totally silent on Ramzy and Orson...
ETA: I'm really glad that I don't work somewhere where random assholes who think they're funny (like, y'know, yours truly) can try to create awkward situations for me and my boss.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||not productive||
I don't think speculating about this is productive. But I do think he generally knows better than to treat explicitly propagandistic outlets as authoritative.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||in case you don't know||
I don't care about nail salons really, although it is true that the story exposed a lot of exploitation of immigrant populations that was subsequently (and immediately, as a result of those stories) cracked down on by the state of New York. And it is, after all, a partisan political question in the United States to what extent illegal immigrants should have legal rights.
Reason.com, on the other hand, is a out-and-out propaganda site. They covered an event at my campus last year, and were wrong about literally every detail. They just make shit up to suit their narrative. See below for some examples of the convenient assumptions they make in their would-be fisking of the NYTimes story.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||read the articles, yo||
The would-be fisking assumes that owners who are accused of illegal practices who deny them are definitely telling the truth (suuuuure), that fired low wage employees who won't comment now were definitely misquoted (suuuuuure), that the existence of $10 per day jobs is definitely excused by the existence of more expensive training programs (suuuuuure), etc., etc., etc.
The factchecking on the NYTimes story left a lot to be desired. But the state of New York didn't react to the NYTimes stories overnight and proceed to find tons of violations because the underlying narrative wasn't sound.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||good piece overall||
An interesting question is what would happen if ESPN (or somebody else) snipes Seth, who I'm pretty sure does all the stuff Brian doesn't want to do.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||You gotta be kidding||
Are you seriously linking to an attempted fisking of a NYTimes story hosted by reason.com? Stick to no politics, man.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Jon Falk already has a nickname||
It's Big John. He doesn't need another one.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
I was sure that was him, but I hadn't read anything about him unretiring, so I figured I'd wait and see. I should have guessed it was just Harbaugh being awesome.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Fall back||
Is this post from the future?
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Benefit of living overseas...||
I decided after the MSU game that I wasn't going to bother trying to stream games live unless we win out until OSU. So I watched the entire Minnesota game the next day, after I knew the outcome and had read all the writeups. Saved myself buckets of stress. Highly recommended.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Hopefully he can turn the interest into a long term contract||
The older I get, the more I can see why someone would refuse to climb the coaching ranks when they're already in a nice situation where they're highly valued.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||https://www.youtube.com/watch|
|15 weeks 12 hours ago||The asshole factor of||
The asshole factor of Dantonio at Miami would break all previous records.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||surprisingly productive things...||
I wrote the latter half of an article Friday and Saturday (hooray full draft of a new paper!) and Sunday is my birthday so I'm doing stuff with the family. I have a 2 year old, so I asked my wife to make us a baking soda volcano and a pop bottle vortex. Might try a new restaurant for lunch or dinner. Might even get subs!
|15 weeks 2 days ago||were you under a rock?||
There are still people in the world who don't own that book?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||wow||
There is a Robert E. Lee High School?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Wow||
That guy looks incredibly old for 11.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||wut||
Are those pants? Since when do grandpa pants magically get sexy if you actually pull them entirely over the chest instead of just to mid-nipple?
|15 weeks 3 days ago||Brands?||
Why is that plural?
|15 weeks 4 days ago||I liked it too||
Somebody needs to tell TWIS guy "I wrote a haiku" is part of the haiku. Or just tell him how to count syllables.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Ask Mike if I should pay $254||
Ask Mike if I should pay $254 to get the documents I FOIA'd about the MHacks event.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Well...||
I think it's kind of impressive that he counted them all.
|16 weeks 16 hours ago||Not in the mood for this feature after that loss :(||
Fuck this thread right now.
|16 weeks 16 hours ago||5 lots?||
Wow, awesome. Which ones? I'll have to see if I can get any of my Flint relatives to come help.
|16 weeks 21 hours ago||Um, what?||
IDK what press conference you watched, but the words "the weak sisters" came out of that asshole's mouth.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||upside||
The upside is that I can maintain a normal sleep schedule over here in Europe, because after that bullshit I'm not watching another game live till OSU, and I'm only watching that one live if we haven't lost again going into it.
After years in the wilderness, we're finally back to playing Michigan football, and we still lose to fucking Mork, that classless shitstain. Anybody watch his press conference? The prick called us "weak sisters" then immediately started talking about trying to win the right way and having respect for the other team and (of course) themselves. The reckoning can't come soon enough.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Why do we think they'll wait||
Why do we think they'll wait till the 4th quarter?
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Hypothesis: you are young and||
Hypothesis: you are young and have mainly heard about glass ceilings in contexts discussing shattering them.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||I wish I understood the chart||
Do the special teams and defense TDs not factor into the field position metric? If not, why not? If so, how was our field position only worth 5 more points than NU's?
I'm also not sure I understand the red zone thing. You say
I assume you are referring to the lack of trips to the red zone. But how can the number be unchanged for 5 weeks on both offense and defense? On defense I could see serendipity in week 3 and then 0 trips to the red zone ever since. But have there really been 0? And anyway the advanced box score section seems to say nothing about the red zone stuff at all.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||the horse is dead, man||
You know you are allowed to move on and let go of your feelings about your ex-wife, right?
|16 weeks 6 days ago||This kid should be in jail||
I hope there is no plea deal that doesn't involve jail time.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Wow||
I may never have seen someone so self-consciously embrace their open misogyny on here. Impressive.
|17 weeks 16 hours ago||No Ross = just more Bolden||
With Peppers on the field for every snap, not having Ross just means Joe Bolden will have to hold things down until the third quarter begins. Things could be a lot worse than they are, though I do expect MSU to try to test both RJS and Bolden frequently in the first half.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe it goes without saying...||
But this is a posbang thread.
Bring on the Spartans!
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Woo||
When was the last time we got three shut outs in a row?
That's right. I'm jinxing it. Send your blame to me.
ETA: We had 3 shutouts in 4 games back in 1987. Unfortunately the 4th game in there was a loss to MSU. Boo this fact.
ETA 2: 1980. It was 1980. We shut out Indiana, Wisconsin, and Purdue back to back to back. We also beat both MSU and OSU that season, and finished ranked 4th overall by the coaches and the media with a 10-2 record. Both losses were early in the season, in weeks 2 and 3 to (hell with) Notre Dame and South Carolina.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||I started thinking about this at 14-0||
I suspect we won't be in the top 10 but there will be absolutely no reason for it. But that's good. They need to stay hungry.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||Good call||
I thought the reversed call on NU was a terrible piece of refereeing, but not because the call was reversed. They didn't call the second guy to jump on Rudock for a personal foul, and they should have. I think they didn't call it because they were calling targeting. But once the targeting was overturned (which I thought was wrong by the rule but whatever), given that it wasn't a hard enough hit to also be a personal foul, the second foul needed to have been called.
|17 weeks 1 day ago||omg omg omg omg||
|17 weeks 3 days ago||Right||
But you are not going to like the way the market takes care of it if the courts force them to pay players. And she is just being thoughtful about how the top end contracts are making the potential correction worse.
|17 weeks 3 days ago||She is right||
We've been over this before around here. The salaries are too high, and they are going to have to come down when players start getting paid. So further entrenching and stretching the status quo on coaches' salaries is a bad thing.
But in the short term, we and OSU got our guys. We just have to hope they'll stick around when things change and the contracts need to be renegotiated. And I feel a lot better about Harbaugh when that day comes than I think OSU should feel about Meyer.
If the courts ever do what they ought to do on this, there's a pretty good chance she looks like a genius 5 years after that happens.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||Yes||
I'm talking about the article below. I don't actually try to read the entire UFR itself. I have a job.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||Video mismatches...||
After you say "Peppers got beat here:" the video is just a replay of the video before, where Peppers is in fact not getting beat but rather rushing the passer. The video that is supposed to be the play after the trap that gashed us is, instead, the trap that gashed us, though I think the next video is the doomed screen.
ETA: Two more video repeats after the cutblocking video moving everything there off as well. Going to wait to read the rest of it until these are fixed.
|17 weeks 4 days ago||WTF||
...do I have to wear pants now if I call Matt? What happened!?!???!?!?!
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Interesting joke given Lowe's history of marketing decisions|
|17 weeks 6 days ago||How is this going?||
I haven't been able to listen. Are lots of people calling in?
|18 weeks 1 day ago||Two issues||
He's talking about Stribling coming back being good for the secondary.