Is he any kin to Messiah DeCarpenter?
“The player development is the main thing I like (about Michigan),” Williams said. “You can see that they develop their players. They get them in the gym and they work them hard. And their hard work pays off.”
|18 hours 12 min ago||Interesting that UM, MSU, and||
Interesting that UM, MSU, and OSU are the only teams given 30 minutes.
|1 day 10 hours ago||It's just the upper half of||
It's just the upper half of the duplex of a friend of mine, but I can't find the listing online. It's also a lot bigger than a studio/1BR--I think 3BR--so I'm not going to keep trying unless you're interested in a bigger place, too.
|1 day 14 hours ago||I had a dog near campus while||
I had a dog near campus while renting from Issa properties and old town realty in the past. I also know of a place on Ventura ct that allows dogs if that's not too far for you.
|3 days 7 hours ago||I love how many things people||
I love how many things people around here have opinions about.
|4 days 12 hours ago||What did tickets for the 1979||
What did tickets for the 1979 game cost? I can find media reports that Michigan got to keep the gate, but not the price.
|5 days 19 hours ago||Oh, dude||
They're supposed to come covered in shaving cream. I'm sorry you got ripped off, man.
|6 days 5 hours ago||The tobacconist in the Arcade||
The tobacconist in the Arcade has some stuff. The usual advice is to figure out how to use a safety razor before you go all the way to a straight razor, but since you already have the straight razors and don't have to buy them, I guess there's no need for that. Anyway, you're supposed to practice on a balloon until you can shave it without popping it before you try shaving yourself.
|6 days 20 hours ago||spam account|
|6 days 20 hours ago||don't underestimate the shoe factor!||
Caris has been in a walking boot every time i've seen him this summer. I bet he's only 6'7.5" without it.
|1 week 1 day ago||No banhammers||
I've done a lot more obnoxious things than this without getting banned, and AFAICT nobody is saying anything that's actually offensive. There was one thread on the board from today when I posted this. There are now a total of three, including it. No harm in giving the people something to hate.
Downvoting me 4 times in this thread seems like enough, though, so I'm not going to post many more comments. Some collected responses here:
Magnus: I'm sorry you had to upvote this, but I'm impressed that you actually did it. Also I'm obviously Section1's alter ego, but we're different people anyway. It's like in the movie Twins. (I'm Arnold's character.)
GoBlueInNYC: That is basically the reaction I was going for. I feel like you've truly understood me.
Don: You've met me! But yes, I am very talented for a dog.
JDVan: There have been many satirical threads that weren't funny, but I can at least say that out of all the satirical threads that weren't funny, this one is not my least favorite.
MaizeMN: No pain. In virtue of some psychological defect, I did this for fun.
ducksterstepnoutsociety: I'm actually expecting a bill.
|1 week 1 day ago||Sorry, Dave||
It's tough being a public figure sometimes. You have to endure all kinds of stupidity from bored people and procrastinators. I replied to you in the thread from the other day, btw, if you want to take a look at my recent posts.
I thought about titling the thread "My Most Downvoted Thread Ever" but I figured it'd get there soon enough without my encouragement.
|1 week 1 day ago||yeah||
That's kind of what it is, with a free stupid joke at the beginning.
|1 week 1 day ago||This also worries me||
But I don't know enough about the projects to know whether I'm just being paranoid.
The more present danger to my mind is that they could end up unable to find tenants for much of what they build, and you'll just have a nice-looking but largely uninhabited downtown with a lot of half-finished or never-started projects.
|1 week 2 days ago||Responding to market||
Responding to market pressures is not illegal. There is about to be a big market pressure. They just need to get out of the way by acknowledging that contracts signed before the change are not indicative of what contracts signed after it should be like.
|1 week 2 days ago||His base coaching salary is||
His base coaching salary is still about 10x too much.
|1 week 2 days ago||…I don't care about the patches or Beyonce or whatever||
(i) The speakers are so loud my wife won't let me take my kid to games without ear-canal-covering earplugs and ear-covering headphones, which is a pain in the ass.
(ii) The TV timeouts make the game so long my wife doesn't want to go to games herself, which is a pain in the ass.
(iii) Thanks to a stupid AD decision, I can't buy a spousal ticket in the student section anyway, no matter how much I'm willing to pay. I stopped buying football season tickets because of this multiple seasons ago, even before my wife had decided she no longer wanted to go. I don't buy hockey season tickets because of it, even though she really wants to go to that. (Thanks to my wife, my household income had, at one point, sextupled since I started buying student tickets, so money is not the issue.)
(iv) Thanks to the NCAA's money-grubbing and our AD's money-grubbing, my own desire to go is impeded by a countervailing desire to vote against the status quo with my wallet and my feet. In fact, I've turned down free tickets on the 40 yard line to multiple games this year because I don't want to make what will be a 2.5 hour trip to cheer for an event put on by the current athletic department unless I think it'll be a great game. Prior to the Dave Brandon era, I'd planned to attend virtually every game in perpetuity.
(v) Re: TV: if Dave Brandon knew what he was doing and actually wanted to make the experience better than sitting at home, he'd lower concession prices, militate for shortened and reduced TV timeouts, and ensure that those massive scoreboards show as many replays as possible. It's not rocket science. The suits still can't figure it out.
So build another strawman and slurp Brandon all you want. He's fucking up. The people who have basketball tickets next to our seats, who have had tickets for decades, feel like this AD doesn't give a shit about them because they don't have a lot of money. The same goes for the current students. And they're right. And it's short-term thinking from a bunch of MBAs who can't understand anything they can't see in the next month's spreadsheet.
|1 week 2 days ago||The Bando Defense!||
"Look, man, I just say shit on the internet."
|1 week 2 days ago||a post wherein i deflect blame once per sentence||
Oh, I thought from your post that you thought it was news. I also can't ever tell who anyone is responding to if it's not within one or two posts of the target because the comment layout is ridiculous.
|1 week 2 days ago||Well...||
I'm not sure you can complain that it makes walking in the street hard. The sidewalks behind the stalls are clear enough for most part.
|1 week 2 days ago||Welcome to the internet||
That story's more than a year old.
|1 week 2 days ago||I only have a small sample||
But I think a lot of donors and a lot of development people (i.e., fundraisers) were very happy to hear Schlissel say so clearly to Brandon who was actually in charge.
|1 week 2 days ago||Priority Points||
This is great news, and I hope Schlissel fixes the Priority Points thing. It's a major problem IMO.
|1 week 3 days ago||blame the registrar||
My dissertation defense is Monday since the post-defense corrections have to be submitted by August 1, so I came back from vacation in time to make some slides for the initial presentation. I don't hate Art Fair anyway, aside from what it does to parking.
|1 week 3 days ago||This is nice||
If somebody could collect the players' names for 2015, that would be nice, too.
|1 week 4 days ago||I had the same reaction. I'll||
I had the same reaction. I'll just add one comment. The stadiums are not too big. The administration in Schembechler Hall is completely inept and the administration in NCAA Headquarters is completely corrupt. The suits are the problem.
|1 week 4 days ago||But price has been going up||
But price has been going up as demand has fallen, and we now have every indication that supply exceeds demand at face+PSL price. Check your high school economics textbook to see what should happen next.
|1 week 6 days ago||It comes from the fact that||
It comes from the fact that cops have been known to lie on the stand and it only takes one juror to worry about that.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||I think they're great||
And I love sitting back with my loved ones and watching a fireworks display every time I go to a single A baseball game.
|2 weeks 8 hours ago||Quick||
There's at least thread one thread left on the board where you haven't made a stupid and completely irrelevant comment about player compensation. Better hurry up and get over there before it's too late for you to make an ass of yourself in front of everybody reading it.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Neat trick||
How do you get the .mp3 of the crying infant to autoplay every time I read your comment?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I'm sure you're right||
I just don't think that sort of thing is very likely to hold up in court, when all the defense lawyer has to do is create a reasonable doubt.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I'd be kind of surprised if||
I'd be kind of surprised if they can get a conviction on the possession charge. If he's not stupid enough to confess, I'd think his lawyer would have a pretty easy time making a reasonable argument that there's no proof it's his coke. You've just got the cop's word that he would've seen the baggies if a previous detainee had put them there, and I'm not sure that's very convincing.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Dammit, Lochdog.||
Wtf is a gameday sponsor?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Normally I roll my eyes at||
Normally I roll my eyes at gratuitous anti-soccer comments, but this was hilarious. Well done, Don.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||not sure about this||
I've only found out of date listings from shady, shady realtors in the past. My understanding is that it's not very hard to keep your listings up to date, and the realtors who tell you otherwise are just trying to bait and switch you.
Just to give you an example, we drove by one Downriver house with people sitting on the porch, so we stopped and asked them if the house was still for sale. They said it hadn't been for a long time, so I showed them the listing. Then they got super pissed because it was listed by the guy who'd sold it to them and mentioned all of the upgrades they'd made after they bought it.
|4 weeks 13 hours ago||How old are they? Living in||
How old are they? Living in the University's family housing in Northwood is great if they're real live adults. You're surrounded, for the most part, by people with at least some graduate education, and all of your neighbors will have a good idea of what your life is like.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||I am not really impressed by||
I am not really impressed by the supposed selflessness of rich people deigning to accept a meager $850,000 salary on the backs of unpaid workers.
|4 weeks 15 hours ago||Are you saying we have a chance?||
No prediction? You should make predictions. Sportswriting convention demands it.
Typos: Alderwereld -> Alderweireld, hell -> he'll
|4 weeks 18 hours ago||I forget...is our athletic||
I forget...is our athletic director a young black woman? Must be.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||FWIW (which is not much)||
I don't think buying stuff makes us complicit, but I think failing to protest visibly in the stadium probably does.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Basketball for both||
Red's not going to be here forever, and we don't know who will replace him. It doesn't seem like the team's been the same since Pearson left, anyway.
Beilein is going to keep us in the hunt for the foreseeable future.
Peppers might be the second coming of Woodson, but frankly I'd be less surprised to see Caris take home POY next year than to see Peppers get a Heisman.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Not bad, mostly||
I wish they had the foresight, and the spine, to say there's got to be a change in compensation for AD higher ups, including coaches, instead of continuing to make veiled threats to take the money away from non-revenue athletes. If presidents don't do the right thing and reset the coaching and athletics administration markets in a post-cartel world, they'll have done a grave disservice to their institutions.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||How is a percentage of a||
How is a percentage of a higher price not a direct profit from the higher price? I'm not saying they set the prices, but I don't understand what you mean by "direct profit".
|5 weeks 4 hours ago||It's not nice to compare||
It's not nice to compare people just because they're both ridiculous looking.
|5 weeks 6 hours ago||What incisive commentary||
Our white guys are unathletic and slow. You checked that box good.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Dude||
Your comment was not respectful. It is not possible to objectify someone respectfully.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||You're about a year late on that one||
Unfortunately that was in the days before the return of the posbang :(
But seriously we should call this kid deCarpenter.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||wow||
I was not expecting that. For people following this, how surprising is this move by USPTO?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||I wonder if he actually still||
I wonder if he actually still has any of those offers. I'd be kind of surprised if he did.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Somebody get that guy an||
Somebody get that guy an $8000 watch.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Apparently I need to read the||
Apparently I need to read the tags, because I was shocked to find Michigan-related content after the soccer section.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||DBAD, dude.||
|6 weeks 5 days ago||ugh fuck that guy||
ugh fuck that guy
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Stay tuned next time when||
Stay tuned next time when WolvinLA2 continues to ignore this question because it cannot be answered because his position is risible.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||lol look at dave wanting to survive laissez faire motherfuckers||
Given your view on unionization, I'm glad you've said so much other ridiculous stuff on this thread. But obviously Dave wants to be an indentured servant duh that's why he's chewing on that shoe leather it's Dave talk for yippee five dollars!
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Very simply, Wolverine||
Very simply, Wolverine Devotee, because what you're imagining is just not how this union thing works. Don't get confused by the naysayers here. If student-athletes at any given school form a union, they'll have a seat at the table to negotiate with the school. The NCAA will be forced to reform its bylaws so that schools have room to negotiate. But having a seat at the table is not the same thing as being able to demand money in a way that anybody has to care about, especially if you have no claim to that money.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Relevant fact: there is not||
Relevant fact: there is not going to be one big union bargaining with the NCAA over issues like compensation. There are plenty of unions of university employees in this country, and they operate on a school by school basis. If you ignore that fact about how unions will work, you will have a hard time coming to a reasonable view of the matter.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||can't find recruit list||
Can somebody link the list of current recruits? Thanks.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||We don't grill much, but we||
We don't grill much, but we use lump charcoal in an old kettle grill when we do.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||hey i know you||
long time no see, gerlach. are you sure the creeped out looks were related to the mustache? (sent you a message on facebook so you can figure out who i am if the avatar doesn't do it for you.)
|7 weeks 15 hours ago||The WDPDC doesn't really lend itself to tourists||
Other than the lobby, there are two hallways (one for the men's team, one for the women's team), each with a film room, a video room, and coaches' offices, then a gym, locker rooms, the practice courts, and a lounge overlooking the practice courts where they close deals with prospective recruits. There's memorabilia around but it's almost entirely working space.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Maybe he's not ok with the||
Maybe he's not ok with the sanctimony and hypocrisy of the NCAA. Is that so hard to believe?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I see what Ace is saying||
He thinks they should use #1.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Usually mega-donations are||
Usually mega-donations are technically commitments to donate the headline amount over a certain period of time (e.g., 10 years).
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Your new thing could be||
Your new thing could be telling Brian you've got a "Hello" post written when you don't.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I could be wrong, but I||
I could be wrong, but I believe that other-defense is not a legal defense in the state of Michigan. MGoLawyers?
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Wow, that's some crappy||
Wow, that's some crappy video. I'll be interested to see the video they got from the other 5 businesses nearby.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||only one complaint||
Moeller is too good of a coach for $2
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Village Corner has been gone||
Village Corner has been gone for a while.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Man, now I'm going to be||
Man, now I'm going to be really disappointed when there's no Dileo slide flip book. Make it a stretch goal please.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||update your lebron reference||
Against the Pacers this year:
|7 weeks 6 days ago||wow||
Unless Duke is intentionally trying to get sued to force the courts to intervene with DoE's policy, one of Duke's lawyers needs to have a talk with that dean ASAP. There's no way in hell that's the policy, and that's an incredibly stupid thing to say, especially on the record to a plaintiff's lawyer.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||excellent added content||
to an excellent OP. good stuff, guys.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||"nose-tech"||
is that a thing? or just a cute thing?
|7 weeks 6 days ago||NB: some people get called||
NB: some people get called rapists because they raped someone. That is sometimes independent of whether or not they were expelled for a broader offense.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||What does jail have to do||
What does jail have to do with it? Expulsion from, in this case, a private university is a hell of a far cry from being jailed.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't say it was the same||
I didn't say it was the same thing as what i said before. I just thought I'd try to play the same game as you by saying things that it's uncomfortable to disagree with. There are not good solutions here. The bad solution where once in a blue moon somebody gets expelled on the basis of a preponderance of the evidence is probably the least bad solution.
I am, of course, ok with slapping the rapist label on rapists, even if the legal system can't convict them. Take, for example, Gibbons, who we both know is a rapist. I was willing to--and did--call him a rapist a long time before you were willing to call him one, and I've been right all along.
What I really think is that universities are legally required to do whatever they can to remove threats from their classrooms, and that the current policy does that. As for the worry about false accusations, there are two kinds of situations where somebody can get falsely accused: (i) he said/she said cases and (ii) cases where the accusation can be proved false. In situation (ii), the falsely accused has a legal unicorn--a slam dunk defamation case--so things will work out that way. In situation (i), the outcome is bad. But I don't see how to avoid it without something worse happening, and we have no evidence that it's ever actually happened anyway. Seriously, point to a single case of somebody being expelled under the current DoE rules on the basis of a false accusation. Can't be done.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||One court hearing less time||
One court hearing less time than it takes for the suit to be dismissed. Employers can do pretty much whatever they want. Read your contract, if you actually have one.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||I'm not ok with confirmed||
I'm not ok with confirmed rapists remaining enrolled. (We're just supposed to be saying things that make our positions seem like common sense that only truly outrageous bastards could disagree with, right?)
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||What exactly did I say that||
What exactly did I say that required assuming that?
ETA: the comment about the standard being high enough right? The occasional false positive is worth it, IME.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Title IX was in effect then.||
Title IX was in effect then. The guidance from DoE about what universities had to do to be compliant was just different. And i don't know what the university would have done; could it do any worse than the police and DA did in that case? I doubt it. Worse case scenario: Duke is also on the losing end of a lawsuit from the falsely accused?
There aren't different rules for anybody. See how long you keep your job if a coworker accuses you of rape.
Vigilance, education, and security do not unrape people.
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||IMO it is necessary for||
IMO it is necessary for universities to make these determinations even when law enforcement fails to, because we know for a fact that law enforcement frequently fails to deal with sexual crime. I also kind of think the preponderence of evidence standard is high enough; the alternative is keeping college bars and frat parties stocked with suspected rapists. Other students deserve better than that. I don't see how Duke, a private university, is going to lose this case. All that happened here is that the judge refused to dismiss it. That's a long way from the student's winning.
To answer the OP's first question, I do think we'll see a lot more of these lawsuits. Even if the accused did it and knows he did it, it's very much in his interest to appear as outraged as possible.
FWIW, WSJ has taken a strong editorial stance against the current Title IX interpretation as it applies to accusations of sexual assault on college campuses. They are a pretty biased source, even more biased than me!
|8 weeks 8 hours ago||Bullocks||
Link or GTFO.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Simmer down||
The DoE will issue guidance about how to deal with "the rhinoceros in the living room" soon enough. What reasonable worry do you actually have, what particular part of Title IX is it based on, and what evidence do you have that that will be interpreted in a way that justifies your worry? If you can't answer those questions, you don't get to derail the conversation.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||It's about not exploiting||
It's about not exploiting people for obscene, unearned profits. What's so hard to understand about that?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||The bank will be open.||
The bank will be open.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Strong work, gumshoe.||
Strong work, gumshoe.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||BiSB had to take an RB by the 8th round||
Brian should get one of his sleepers back.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Suburbs.||
But I did feel really short in high school because I'm only 5'11" and change.
I have not been accused of being really nice recently. (A long-time colleague did recently ask me, "wait a minute...are you nice?" after I made friends with a bar employee.)
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Thank you.||
I have not watched the Sopranos. Thanks.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||these are embarrassing||
The people producing these should probably proofread them, given that they're representing what are supposed to be serious universities. That's also the reason they should stop doing it, but whatever. Lawsuits and unionization will reset everybody's priorities soon enough.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||It's May. I'd rather have||
It's May. I'd rather have threads full of spoilers for TV shows I don't watch than this nonsense.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||mogblue always provides great||
mogblue always provides great phoots
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Not sure about the production||
Not sure about the production values. Better raise tuition again and hire another Senior VP.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||The suit is filed in the name||
The suit is filed in the name of a personality on CNN's HLN channel, and the Atlanta address on the envelope is CNN headquarters. I'm pretty sure this is a bad joke, filed by some prankster who will be lucky to avoid sanctions by remaining anonymous, if he can do so.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Don't count on it||
Max didn't get all those minutes at the end of the year because the coaches were really happy with Horford's effort level.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||ctrl+f looking shit up overload||
Label your picks, dammit.
Beaten to the punch. Better add a picture.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks||
Your version of this comment is much nicer than mine (and also probably actually got posted before they fixed it).
|9 weeks 6 days ago||So what? Insurance doesn't||
So what? Insurance doesn't have to be 100% free-rider-proof to be a good thing.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||I'll be wearing my hoodie||
I'll be wearing my hoodie tomorrow. Just a few years until my son grows into the youth baseball cap I've got.
|10 weeks 15 hours ago||back up||
when did facepalm guy steal your firepit? what's the story?
|10 weeks 3 days ago||That looks suspiciously like||
That looks suspiciously like an ad in the bowl.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||I would like to judge this||
except I sent postcards to my dog for 2 years while I was abroad.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||lol||
As a Pacers fan, I endorse this stupid idea.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||bah||
use of the meta tag should be restricted to non-jokes
|10 weeks 4 days ago||oh fuck i clicked the wrong link||
i have this vague memory of something i was supposed to do but it must have just been watching this video of swimming hamsters.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||This is why I downvoted the||
This is why I downvoted the OP. It's one thing if you want to offer a dispassionate consideration of the relative talent levels. But this is just OSU homerism, and it doesn't belong on this board.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||defenders?||
|11 weeks 17 hours ago||Michigan Football||
It's all the rage these days.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Facetimed the grandmothers||
Facetimed the grandmothers and made the baby momma a spa appointment. Going for frozen yogurt after the baby's nap. Woo moms.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||what a coincidence||
that's how i tell your mother happy mother's day every year, too!
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Mgoweather is not a he|
|11 weeks 6 days ago||I really don't understand||
I really don't understand what it takes to get fired at Rutgers.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||God'sgift Achiuwa and||
God'sgift Achiuwa and Sir'Dominic Pointer would like a word with you.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||how have i not seen this||
how have i not seen this before? what is the internet even for if not propagating this gif?
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Thank you.||
|12 weeks 5 days ago||Somebody else mentioned Grambling State||
So there are at least two cases where players have refused to practice or play as a team. The Minnesota State Mankato players backed down after a few days. I don't know what happened with Grambling State. (Here's John Bacon on Grambling State.) These programs, of course, aren't full of players with NFL aspirations, but maybe that doesn't matter. I don't think anything is harmed by creating an official organization to formalize the decision making procedure about whether to strike, especially since a union would also provide a way to negotiate short of striking. But I guess people who think unions make for hostile negotiating environments won't be impressed by that idea.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||depends on gender||
it's kind of hard to tell. Wikipedia says the median for a woman 25 or older with a professional degree is $48,536, but that number's from 2003. (The median for a man is given as $88,530.) But the relevant number will be the median income for somebody in the first 3 (or whatever) years post-degree, and I guess you'll want to exclude medical residents from the dataset. Please post it when you find it.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Graduate student unions are||
Graduate student unions are university-specific, but the intercollegiate nature of athletics should militate in favor of a national union. That's what UCLA players were after when United Steelworkers first came on the scene in 2002 and what Ramogi Huma, who's apparently spearheaded the union push since the late 90s, seems to want. I don't know how things will actually get there, though. Presumably the earliest university-specific union(s) will join forces with subsequent ones as soon as possible: they can only pressure their universities into bargaining for things the NCAA will allow, and exercising decisive influence on NCAA regulations will require the involvement of lots of NCAA member schools.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Well, for starters, I don't||
Well, for starters, I don't understand why medical residents aren't unionized. Are they legally barred from unionizing because they're medical professionals? Or have they just not done it? I also don't think medical residents put their longterm physical health in jeopardy by doing what they do [BiSB beat me to this point], but presumably you're in a better position to know that than I am. (I also think you shouldn't complain about making less than 50k. The median 2012 US income was $26,989, and the average was $40,563. But whatever.)
I don't understand what you mean when you say the players aren't ready to play professionally. Given the money in the system, players can be given full cost of attendance scholarships so that playing D1 football just is playing professionally, albeit at a low and modestly paid level. (This is part of why coaches' salaries are not, in fact, irrelevant.)
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I agree that it's semantics,||
I agree that it's semantics, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter. "Boycott" conjures up images from the Civil Rights Movement; "strike" conjures up more controversial ideas.
Anyway, I think we're on the same page. Thanks for helping me think through it.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Oh, I see. I misunderstood||
Oh, I see. I misunderstood your post--my bad. It's pretty obvious what you meant in context.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Re: Olympic boycotts||
Isn't that because countries (which are not employees of anyone) and their Olympians (who are not employees of the Olympics) are the ones refusing to participate during Olympic boycotts? NBA players are employed by their franchises (or maybe by the NBA; I don't know the contractual details).
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks||
I think the NCAA is substantially worse than Sterling qua Clippers owner. Qua slumlord, I suspect it's a close call, but I don't really know enough about his dealings. I've heard that he facilitated institutional discrimination by keeping minorities out of certain properties, a la longtime Dearborn mayor Orville Hubbard. The NCAA is an institution unto itself, though. So I'd think of Donald Sterling, slumlord, as akin to Alabama, exploitative NCAA program par excellence.
How's that for overthinking it?
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't mean to say I was||
I didn't mean to say I was happy about that. I don't think I did say it, either, but I don't know. The fact is I am happy about it, but that's not supposed to be the point. I just think it's interesting. The actual point is that it's important to recognize that unions can play this role when thinking about the future of the NCAA. Sorry if I wasn't being clear.
I'm not sure I understand what would make it extortion if Silver did what he did only to ensure that the playoffs go on as scheduled. He's running a company, and the employees made a demand. I do think it's neat that the union allowed players to speak so effectively, but I don't think it's extortion. I mean, was it extortion when the NBA fined McRoberts for elbowing James? Was it extortion when Stern made players dress up on their way to games? (If you're going to call those things extortion, then I'm not sure it's bad for something that you call extortion to happen.)
ETA: Sorry, I don't think I actually answered your question so far. If I thought the punishment were too much or the offense not that bad, I'd probably still think that the outcome showed the power of the NBPA. I also don't think I'd be unhappy about it, though. I'm pretty much always happy when slumlords get fucked for political reasons we shouldn't get into here. Again, YMMV.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||The Clippers presumably would have||
But why would any other team if there weren't a larger organization at work facilitating the communication? Why wouldn't the Warriors just look forward to the free win? Is Kevin Durant supposed to call up Zach Randolph and ask if he wants to boycott? Is Chris Paul supposed to call them both?
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Another question||
Why are they using the word "boycott" instead of the word "strike"? I've been speaking that way, too, but I think they're just avoiding the word "strike" for political reasons. (It'd be nice if the professional journalist who wrote that article had addressed this point.)
|12 weeks 6 days ago||There are massive||
There are massive organizational challenges in the NCAA case, given the number of people and institutions involved. I can imagine individual teams refusing to play games--I have vague memories of rumors of a basketball team planning to refuse to play if they made it far enough in the tourney--but I'm not sure how large-scale boycotts would be organized without the kind of representative structure that a union provides. It would certainly make it easier.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||I found it pretty||
I found it pretty underwhelming, but I'm always disappointed when people proceed by mentioning various things you could argue and then attributing the thing they do argue to nothing beyond their own bias.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||I'm not sure how the definition helps your case||
The players appear to me to be "following a [learned] profession," they "earn a living" doing so (see: room and board scholarships), and anybody playing D1 ball is certainly a skilled practitioner and, by the time they see the field anywhere but on Michigan's OL, an expert.
I mean, suppose that only firefighters in the 32 biggest cities were paid, with volunteer forces everywhere else. Suppose also that volunteer firefighters were all spending 60 hours a week trying to eventually land gigs with ("get drafted by") the paying operations. Then on your view it seems like it would be ok if they weren't paid. For one thing, they would (trivially!) fail to be professionals insofar as their positions wouldn't pay.
More generally, there is something seriously wrong with predicating the legitimacy of organizing workers on the basis of whether or not they earn a substantial enough living, insofar as a primary reason to organize workers is to push for more substantial benefits.
Last I knew, incidentally, Google paid their interns something like 6k a month.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||I answered the questions in||
You edited this before I could reply, so I guess everything's copacetic?
|13 weeks 1 day ago||you can't possibly believe||
|13 weeks 1 day ago||Good point||
We should stop paying firefighters and then you won't need to unionize because you won't be professionals. I cannot see any downside to this general line of thought.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||The part you paraphrased away||
Perhaps unsurprisingly, the part you didn't quote from Price points to the part from Fitzgerald you paraphrased away.
You paraphrased this as Fitzgerald saying there's "no upside," but that's (importantly) not what he said. Thus Price:
Despite being pro-unionization, I don't think it's actually a threat. I don't think Price is being biased either, though. He's just explaining what could be argued if the pro-union people wanted to press an interference claim before the NLRB (or whomever). He's hedging pretty hard while he does it--it's not like he's insisting Fitzgerald did something illegal. He's just saying what would be focused on in a hypothetical legal argument.
|13 weeks 3 days ago||It strikes me as pretty||
It strikes me as pretty ridiculous to think that the end of exploitation of football players is going to be the thing that makes tenured and tenure-track faculty do something about adjuncts.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||This||
You can (and should) also make your willingness to move conditional on their meeting whatever conditions you want to put on moving. You're the customer. You get to choose whether to spend the money.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Great video||
Woke up my son laughing, then my wife went to bed because I was responding to everything she said by trying to get her to watch the next clip.
|14 weeks 17 hours ago||it's not too late||
I'd take it down if I were you. It's not really cool to play journalist with things people tell you privately.
What I do with information like this, if I think it should be public, is put it in the hands of a real journalist (namely, MGoBrian) and tell him how I got it, so he can use it on (deep) background if he wants. That's what I did, for example, when DMo's parents told me in the stands of a basketball game that the basketball coaches had changed his shot his freshman year, which explains the jump in his shooting percentages between his freshman and sophomore years. (I think this is the first time I've actually posted that publicly, and only because it obviously doesn't matter now.)
|14 weeks 5 days ago||I would like this most if Ace||
I would like this most if Ace were, like, your grandson.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||you're overinterpreting||
He's a pretty open guy. Why should he deflect? The truth isn't going to hurt anybody.
|15 weeks 3 days ago||What do you know that Tito and Al Horford don't?||
The guy has multiple (current or former) NBA players in his family to advise him. He doesn't seem like the type to refuse to take advice.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Sick, but not that sick||
I don't even have a Twitter account that I use, but I tend to click around for a little while whenever I check out anybody's tweets. That means I end up reading recent tweets by people who've been mentioned by the account I was originally reading. (I only managed to find it again now because it was in my outbox, as I'd sent Brian a link to find out if he'd heard any related rumblings.)
Anyway, I'm surprised more people don't protect their tweets from the public. I guess they expect more privacy than there actually is.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||wow. false equivalence.||
This is asking to get punched. There is no outfit such that wearing it is equivalent to asking to be raped.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||If your standards are lax enough, I called it||
His sister tweeted something about how he should switch to Florida 2 or 3 years ago. Brian never thought it was anything, but I've been worried lately. If McGary and Robinson come back, he's not a starter next year, and that's not good enough for a guy with NBA aspirations.
Silver lining: at least McGary must be coming back.
ETA: Here is the tweet:
I want to see Jon become a Florida Gator.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||This is a posbang thread, right?||
Without Section 1, it seems like it. I upvoted almost everybody.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, thanks. I wish I'd seen||
Yeah, thanks. I wish I'd seen what provoked him, though.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||I am disappoint||
I think Furman was more serviceable than this site thought he was. I'm sad he didn't get to prove everybody wrong as a Wolverine.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Bama ethics||
I assume their faculty and other instructional staff are slightly more ethical than the football team.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||I guess this kid||
I guess this kid underestimated how much making good on his stupid bet was going to suck.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||You are very generous in what||
You are very generous in what you are willing to consider a Big Ten ish type substance.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||This strikes me as grossly||
This strikes me as grossly inappropriate (not to mention incompetent) meddling. MGoLawyers, is there any reason to think the Ohio legislature can trump the NLRA (or whatever the relevant federal laws are)?
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||I'm no trainer, but would he||
I'm no trainer, but would he really be on the field if he weren't 100%? I guess the idea is that he's healthy again but his development was set back by the time off--is that right?
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||How did I miss this?||
Who got the scalp?
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||whoa!||
how did section 1 get banned? oh glory be!
|16 weeks 17 hours ago||"he"? "his"?||
You obviously know absolutely nothing about the current situation at Rutgers. Thanks for the epinion though.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||can't believe it's been 4 years||
I saw the loss in Oostende in 2010. Douglass was the clear leader that night, and I've always liked him better than anybody else from that team because of it.
Does anybody know where they're going? Following them around would be a fun summer vacation.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||double post||
Poster, help thyself: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/040214aaa.html has the parking info, but nothing about a gate policy.
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Parking? Gate policy?||
Does anybody know what it costs to park at this thing? I can't remember.
Also, can you bring in bags (e.g. diaper bags) or is the usual policy in effect?
|17 weeks 4 days ago||I'd support approaching this||
I'd support approaching this the way other countries do, starting with charging no more than a few thousand bucks a year for tuition.
|18 weeks 16 hours ago||yeah||
I was excited to point out there's already a Hunt House in Ann Arbor on the 3rd and 4th floors of South Quad, because that'd totally sway Hunter House's decision.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||Hopefully Dayton takes out Kansas, too||
I had OSU in the Elite Eight but my bracket will be fully recovered versus the others in my pool if Dayton can do that one more time.
|18 weeks 3 days ago||uh, dude||
You should probably not do that and instead find somebody who thinks like you do.
|19 weeks 15 hours ago||What a weird country this is||
I thought that in America people called your "Pandora's box" a free market. I also thought people generally supported free markets.
What am I missing?
|19 weeks 6 days ago||There are lots of ways to get it over with||
I don't see why Webber should apologize when the NCAA is in the middle of getting its ass kicked in court precisely because people like Webber were unjustly prevented from, or punished for, taking money in the first place. There's pretty much no chance this conversation is going to be productive, though.
|20 weeks 6 hours ago||That's what I thought, too.||
That's what I thought, too.
|20 weeks 11 hours ago||Not a drag on grad students||
I'm pretty sure Northwestern funds their grads. Not having to teach more than some minimal amount to prove competence is generally good for graduate students, who (in most cases) are there to learn and research much more than they are there to teach.
|20 weeks 5 days ago||I think you're right about||
I think you're right about Stauskas, Levert, and Walton, but I'm not seeing Robinson on the first team, and I can't imagine there aren't more deserving freshmen at Irvin's spot, given his spare minutes.
|21 weeks 3 days ago||I'll say it||
I don't really care about uniforms at all--I just clicked on the thread to see if everybody would get worked up over something this stupid again--but I think these are cool. Downvote away.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||It might be a mistake to say||
It might be a mistake to say he was officially expelled based on some kind of rape charge, but it's not a mistake in general. All signs point to his having raped a person.
|21 weeks 4 days ago||I think of playing NCAA games||
I think of playing NCAA games on days other than Saturday as a ratings gimmick for desperate teams in shitty conferences. No thanks.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||I hope you've already emailed||
I hope you've already emailed your story to the AD. If not, please do. They need to reckon with the full effects of their screw up here.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Not sure why this post is||
Not sure why this post is getting pushback--I guess just the style. For what it's worth, I also thought there was at least one shot where they just slapped him in the face. I think that's the shot you've got stills of, but it's not the shot in the .gif you posted--Stauskas isn't shooting from the top of the key in the .gif, and the defender lands outside the 3 point line instead of inside it. I also seem to remember Stauskas missing the shot where I thought he got slapped, because I was mad there was no foul called.
|21 weeks 5 days ago||Oh, God, this made my day.||
Oh, God, this made my day. Thank you.
|22 weeks 17 hours ago||Solution||
Here's an overly complicated solution to something that shouldn't be a problem, in the spirit of MGoBlog:
Why not have a lottery that determines seating priority for anybody who arrives before the official lineup time? That eliminates the advantage of showing up earlier than 6:59 am, but still gives those people priority over those who show up at 7:01.
|22 weeks 17 hours ago||You are in violation of the||
You are in violation of the Law of Gravity! Stop juggling and get down on your stomach!
|22 weeks 17 hours ago||You must come||
from New York City. You're being a giant, condescending douchebag for no reason.*
*Hypocrisy check: I always have reasons.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||It was supposed to be in||
It was supposed to be in reply to WichitanWolverine's non-sequitor about women in the military. I have no idea if it is actually posted that way or not, because AFAIK the reply numbers are usually screwy and it's impossible to tell who you replied to if it's not directly under the thing.
|22 weeks 1 day ago||I'm almost certain this is||
I'm almost certain this is wrong, but link?
|22 weeks 1 day ago||Why wouldn't it be libelous||
Why wouldn't it be libelous to knowingly falsely allege that he'd done something for which he should be prevented from participating?
|22 weeks 1 day ago||something something correlation something something causation||
I bet it has nothing to do with the wonky ball we use at home and is totally caused by our fans.
|22 weeks 3 days ago||jmfc wolvinla2||
Mid-career median salary for a Michigan grad is 93k. Brag about how you chose your doctor based on race again, oh myopic one.
ETA: that's from 2008. A less reliable source in 2013 says 84.2k: http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/full-list-of-schools
|22 weeks 3 days ago||...I've never seen Magnus set||
...I've never seen Magnus set himself up to get owned before. Well done, Mat.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||I like this hot sprots take||
Good perspective, Seth. I don't think it's useless for the OP to ask these questions--obviously there's a lot of ignorance (and misinformation) about how this is going to work out there right now. Kudos to you (and the various mods/JDs) for bringing some information to the thread.
Also, hooray for whoever starting deleting political comments. I love being proved wrong when I say the mods won't do anything.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||Any reason this kid can't sue||
Any reason this kid can't sue the Phillies for libel?
|22 weeks 4 days ago||This||
This is exactly right, IME.
|22 weeks 4 days ago||No||
There is a category of qualified educational expenses, which includes tuition and required books, which gets deducted from income in determining the taxable amount.
|22 weeks 5 days ago||oh my god the burning rage||
oh my god the burning rage with which i fucking hate our diaper bag is palpable i can never find anything why did you do this why does my wife keep a pair of her panties in the diaper bag why aren't the diapers just on top where the fuck are the wipes why did you do this
If I weren't unbelievably lazy, I guess I would already own a dedicated backpack to use as a diaper bag when I've got the kid. Maybe I'll get around to that today...
|22 weeks 6 days ago||TCU was a women's college?||
|22 weeks 6 days ago||straw man much?||
Why are you pretending a 5'2", 130-ish pound woman is representative of all women? What do you think would happen to a 5'5" 150 pound male running back?
|23 weeks 18 hours ago||hey||
don't steal my schtick.
|23 weeks 2 days ago||not always...||
I saw USA-France and Russia-Germany in Cologne in 2010 and there were no cheerleaders. Is it a new thing?
|24 weeks 2 days ago||On "syllogism"||
Well, RPC more or less denies knowing what "syllogism" means, though the example he presents is decent enough. The reason I think it's a misuse of the term is that a syllogism is a very particular kind of argument--the Wikipedia article does an ok job of introducing the basics--and one can beg the question without using or attempting to use syllogistic reasoning. The term does have a derivative sense in which it just means any kind of deductive reasoning, but I would be surprised if anybody who actually understands the primary meaning would use the more general one. I also think it's possible to beg the question when not engaging in deductive reasoning at all, though sometimes textbooks do characterize question-begging as putting forth a deductive argument that takes its conclusion as a premise.
|24 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah||
You understood what I meant (although it was supposed to be a joke).
|24 weeks 6 days ago||well||
if TMac goes on to become the greatest baseball player of all time, I guess his career will be like an inverted version of MJ's.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Just like Eminem.||
Just like Eminem.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Enough using University facilities for commercial events||
But yeah, if your only values involve economic and sports impacts, I can see how you wouldn't see a problem.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||lol||
No professional training as a reporter? What's he going to do next, start a blog!?
|25 weeks 1 day ago||None of that supports any of your conclusions||
It would be obviously wrong to use a legal term of art, e.g., "criminal sexual assault" in any degree, that does not apply. But "rape" is not a legal term of art, but a common noun that describes perfectly what occurred when our rapist kicker raped a woman. I cannot see any sense in which that fact supports your ridiculous position, but then again I'm not the kind of committed rape apologist you seem to be, so I can't really get inside your head on this issue.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||I see no comma splices||
There are three commas that should be deleted, but it's free of comma splices.
I agree with you about "syllogism" though--it's a weird use of a technical term, and he's committing a use/mention confusion anyway, as "beg the question" is not a syllogism (nor an argument) but a phrase. The type of argument named by that phrase need not be the kind of two-premise argument usually called a syllogism, although Section 1 likes to write as inaccessibly as his Cooley JD allows, so it's not very surprising that he'd use the term pompously to refer to any kind of argument.
|25 weeks 1 day ago||Why does the dominant usage of a phrase bother you?||
Do you also get mad that people use "enormity" to mean large rather than monstrously wicked? Or "nonplussed" to mean unfazed rather than bewildered? Language changes.
Also useful: http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2290.
This thread: not useful.