chance of bowl: 13.6%
|12 hours 28 min ago||video issues||
The videos in this post are screwed up. The first video should be Oregon throwing deep to a slot receiver, but it's Lippett catching a Hemingway-style jump ball. The second video should be Lippett, but it's a video game #fail thing. Also not sure what's going on with the Moment of Zen.
|13 hours 34 min ago||Good||
He did nothing wrong. The NCAA rules are what's wrong. It is now, finally, being fixed. Welcome back, CWebb.
|15 hours 9 min ago||This is a good point||
The emails in question could've gone through the publicly accessible email instead of DB's uniqname, which is what I used. Brian's FOIA is more general and should come back faster than a resubmitted request from me would.
|15 hours 13 min ago||Please forward it||
Please forward that email (with all headers) to the gmail address starting with mgobisb (so, mgobisb [at] youknowwhatgoesherehintit'sgmail [dot] youknowwhatgoesheretoohintit'scom), and ask him to forward it to me. If what you say is true, I will appeal the response to the President.
|1 day 6 hours ago||jmfc, CGV||
First, holy unnecessary legal argot. Please see item 1 at http://www.kentlaw.edu/academics/lrw/grinker/LwtaLegalese.htm. If you want further replies from me, you'll have to speak regular English so everyone who is interested in this exchange can follow it easily. I would also like you to either (i) acknowledge that you were wrong on the law re: what it takes to freeze FOIA'd documents in Michigan or (ii) provide evidence that you were not wrong on that question. (To satisfy (ii), please cite Michigan or federal legislation or a case that constitutes binding precedent on Michigan circuit courts, and provide direct hyperlinks.)
Second, the FOIA request is already reproduced above, so you can read it for yourself if you're interested.
Third, I believe I've already adequately responded to everything else on this thread.
To reiterate: I will not respond to any more posts from you unless you cut the legalese and speak plainly.
|1 day 8 hours ago||Not really...||
I didn't say that I think it's fake in the post you responded to. I said that we now have "at least some evidence" that the email is fake. That's a pretty weak claim. (Compare: The extended Bronco chase was at least some evidence that O.J. was guilty. The glove not fitting was at least some evidence that O.J. was innocent.)
|1 day 8 hours ago||uh...||
I believe a FOIA request freezes the document from the time of the request to 180 days after the U's written denial (at which point my legal right to appeal to the President and/or sue them for disclosure expires).
Also, BiSB is a lawyer, and saw my FOIA request a long time ago, and also I believe submitted one of his own on behalf of MGoBlog. But I appreciate the unwarranted sanctimony of your response; sometimes I think I know everything, too.
|1 day 11 hours ago||my request should've caught it...||
Dear Ms. Sellinger, This is an official Freedom of Information Act request for a complete email chain, including the email described below, which I will call EMAIL ONE, the email sent from the email address to which it was directed as a response, and any other FOIA-accessible email related to it via the common reply or forwarding email functions. I also hereby request any email originating from firstname.lastname@example.org containing the phrase "have a happy life" and any email originating from email@example.com containing the phrase "without you". I believe EMAIL ONE originated from firstname.lastname@example.org. I believe the content of EMAIL ONE to be, at least in part, the following: I suggest you find a new team to support. > We will be fine without you. > Have a happy life... Please confirm receipt of this FOIA request at your earliest convenience. Thank for your prompt attention, Professor [Jon06] (AB '06, MA [xx], Ph.D [xx])
|1 day 11 hours ago||I would assume it doesn't exist, but who knows||
AFAICT, it does not guarantee that the thing doesn't exist. But it either doesn't exist or they don't have to disclose that it does. It might just not be a "responsive" record, if part of what "responsive" means is that the thing is FOIA-accessible. There are a variety of law enforcement exceptions that allow agencies to deny that a record exists, for example. Maybe his emails aren't FOIA-accessible, and that allows the same move. IANAL and anyway I can't tell what the law requires here.
But I take this as at least some evidence that the email was fabricated. (We could tell how good the evidence is if someone would FOIA some emails they know to exist to see what happens then.)
|2 days 15 hours ago||Please reserve your self-righteousness for actual causes||
The Susan G. Komen Foundation is a corporate branding machine that requires shockingly little of associated products. I'm all for the football program doing things to raise money for (breast) cancer research, but wearing pink is not the best way to do it. It's basically just the Brandon way to look like you're trying.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Funk can only be the second worst...||
Tony Gibson. That is all.
|3 days 7 hours ago||You're not overreacting||
If that's true, it's ridiculous. It's hard to imagine what this coaching staff thinks it's doing.
|4 days 7 hours ago||Still in progress||
They gave themselves a 10 day extension at the end of the initial 5 days. They emailed me today to ask for an address to which to mail the response, which I provided.
|1 week 5 hours ago||:(||
Sorry about your dog, and dad, and mom. Nightmares you can't wake up from are the worst. You have my sympathy.
|1 week 3 days ago||He uses them consistently.||
He uses them consistently.
|1 week 3 days ago||[you aren't] asking me, but i'll respond||
Earlier today I said (in some MGoBoard thread...maybe not this one) that I don't buy the narrative about a team-wide talent development problem. It seems right at QB, OL, and RB (and maybe I should add TE), but not elsewhere. I do not think the problem with Countess is how he is being coached. I think the problem is the scheme change, which I don't consider a talent development problem even though it was obviously the coaches' decision. Hopefully that makes sense. For what it's worth, I think Lewis has always been pretty good, and I don't have any opinion about how he's being coached. (I may be confusing Lewis and Stribling here, but I think Dear Leader thinks he's just stopped getting beat by perfect throws and/or phasing out of existence when the ball comes at the whim of a pissed-off gypsy.)
As for Stribling, I can't tell whether he got any snaps because I had a hard time distinguishing 6 and 8 on the jerseys from my seat during the game. Every time I thought he was in the game, it turned out to be Taylor.
ETA: I just realized you were asking somebody else. I am apparently an overactive OP today. Sorry.
|1 week 3 days ago||I do.||
|1 week 3 days ago||yeah yeah||
In my defense, you can be a heck of a muse.
|1 week 3 days ago||an unrelated question for you||
Where do the conventions for abbreviations you use come from? I've never seen them before, but they seem to be completely unambiguous and easy to decipher, so I assume it's from some established newspaper or gambling typographic system.
|1 week 3 days ago||It's my fault on this thread||
Usually the snarkers are to blame but I did it to myself here. But no worries--there is some real discussion above, and hopefully there will be more below.
|1 week 3 days ago||yep||
From the OP:
The way this discussion board thing works is that you read the OP before you comment on it. /snark
|1 week 3 days ago||one point of disagreement left||
I disagree with this, because (having had it pointed out to me already on this thread that it's hard to play in the NFL if you literally cannot play man) I think he's basically a depth CB and/or a practice squad player who earns his keep simulating zone defenders. I think it's easier to catch on as one of those things if you can get a team to spend a late-round draft pick on you than if you're an UDFA, and I think somebody would spend a late-round draft pick on Countess if he can record a few more interceptions next year. But I think that'll only happen if he's playing in a zone coverage scheme.
|1 week 3 days ago||oh fuck off it's a metaphor||
[ETA: wait a minute...are you guys just quoting Austin Powers? My bad. Leaving this for posterity anyway.]
You can find hundreds more if you want, I'm sure.
|1 week 3 days ago||Look upthread||
Blue in Yarmouth raised this issue upthread, where it already has one response. Please continue that discussion up there--it's an interesting question.
|1 week 3 days ago||Yes.||
It is really surprising that BC has played so poorly this year after he'd looked so good early in his career. It's worth talking about.
I do think the #2 thing makes it more ironic than it'd otherwise be, though. (See tags.)
|1 week 3 days ago||agree to disagree?||
If he can prove he's still an A+ zone merchant, I think he's easily worth a 6th/7th round pick. But I also think that's a reasonable thing to disagree about, so ok.
|1 week 3 days ago||i'll play||
So I told you what advice I'd give him, and I'll tell you now as explicitly as I can that I think it's supportive to give people the advice that you think is actually in their best interest, even if they don't want to hear it.
Here's a related example: I have a student right now who is about to walk away from a 60k/year scholarship at my current SLAC doing something he's good at to transfer to a community college in order to pursue a degree in my field, with which he's fallen in love. I give him a new reason why this is a stupid idea every week, because I think it's a stupid idea. But I'll also write him a recommendation letter when he does it anyway, because I want to support him in whatever he ultimately decides to do. That's how to be supportive, IMO.
In Countess's case, I'd present him with all the reasons to transfer that I could, because that's what I think is in his professional best interest. I'd also support him if he decided to stay, of course, but I don't think whoever's advising him is being supportive if they're not advising him to the best of their ability, which will sometimes involve telling him what's true even if he's not inclined to believe it or act on it.
|1 week 3 days ago||I know :)||
Why do you think I put the over/under so high on this otherwise good thread? I know how the internet works. I've just never seen a bear I didn't want to poke.
|1 week 3 days ago||I mostly agree||
I hope I didn't seem mad at BC. I think it's sad that the staff changed schemes in a way that put him in a position to fail. (I kind of think the NCAA should have one-time no-fault transfer rules that allow student-athletes to switch programs if there's a scheme change, even if there isn't a coaching change.)
I'm not sure about the development issues on a team-wide level, though I do think there are serious questions about our RB, OL, and QB development. I agree that talent identification is a big problem when it comes to getting the most productive players on the field, although as recently as this summer we all thought this coaching staff was very good at identifying high school talent.
|1 week 3 days ago||just couldn't resist||
…I know. That's why I did it. I'm sick, doc.
Substance: I don't think it's coaching. I think it's 100% a bad fit with the new scheme.
|1 week 3 days ago||gimme fuel gimme fire gimme somethingsomethingsomething||
More supportive? If I were advising Countess, I would tell him to transfer to a program with an established zone coverage scheme. He has high-level skills that are not being used in this defense, and it's endangering his future in his craft. The fit is just bad for him in a press coverage scheme. It's best for the program if he stays, but I'm not sure that's best for him.
I really don't know how saying that is unsupportive of a student-athlete, though. I think he can be great and make it to the League if he gets himself on a zone coverage defense.
|1 week 3 days ago||Wellllllll….||
I'm a Michigan grad x 3 and I am pretty sure I can be a dick on the internet with the best of them.
|1 week 3 days ago||I believe PSU also got an||
I believe PSU also got an illegal blocker downfield call against them, which this site believes does not get called often enough.
|1 week 3 days ago||So you're taking the over,||
So you're taking the over, eh?
|1 week 4 days ago||I don't understand why it||
I don't understand why it took so much to get DB to listen, but if he's finally listening, that's positive.
He should still be fired for cause for the post-concussion embarrassment, though. That was total moral bankruptcy and abjectly terrible leadership.
|1 week 4 days ago||I thought there was less||
I thought there was less piped-in music. I also didn't notice any ads for wedding rentals and that kind of stuff.
|1 week 5 days ago||This is false||
Morris did take part in pre game warmups. I watched him throw a pass.
|1 week 5 days ago||a simple request||
Can you post more? I get more points from upvotes for disagreeing with your stupidity than I can spend downvoting you.
|1 week 5 days ago||You are not as B1G as they||
You are not as B1G as they come. No conference should get two.
|1 week 5 days ago||Also MIA at AD tailgate||
My folks were at the official Athletic Department tailgate, where Brandon usually makes an appearance, and to their knowledge he did not show. President Schlissel was there, and talked about supporting the student-athletes.
|2 weeks 4 hours ago||I blame Dave Brandon's Athletic Department for that||
If we had a leader in Schembechler Hall, it would already have been made clear to those players that fans are only doing what they think will be best for the program as a whole, including the players.
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Where's the mic drop gif?||
Isn't this where you declare yourself victor of the argument?
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Just out of curiosity: you||
Just out of curiosity: you are on board with the idea that players should be getting paid, since you have no problem with players' images on branded advertisements, right?
|2 weeks 16 hours ago||I have always been willing to compromise||
I think Brandon should be allowed to resign instead of being tarred and feathered on the field, for instance.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||That's how I understand it.||
That's how I understand it.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Whoda thunkit||
There really is an absolute zero of cluelessness. I never would've guessed.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I like what you're thinking||
I like what you're thinking but I don't think SAs should have to stand up to an incompetent AD administration themselves. I think that's too much to ask of them.
Incidentally, this pretty much is a school in the middle of a civil war, isn't it? The whole point of continuing to protest is to show them that the tension will be here until the root problem is fixed.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Why?||
Why, exactly? This morning I wake up to find I'm up 30 MGoPoints from before I started the thread, which now has 35 upvotes to 26 downvotes. I've been the only one arguing my side against literally the entire board before. I've even been wrong--badly wrong--on the internet before. It's ok, it happens. I'm an adult, so I can handle it. But in this thread there's a pretty deep disagreement, more people upvoted the OP than downvoted it, and I'm not quite the only one on my side no matter how deep you go in the comments.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||It must've been the 90s,||
It must've been the 90s, because I can remember it pretty clearly and I was born in 1983. In fact, I have pictures of myself in the stadium in 1989 and I'm almost certain the wall is short then.
Also, Wikipedia says 1991.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||?????||
I genuinely have no idea what you find wrong with that comment. A guy with 200 MGoPoints suggested the problem was DB lining his own pocket. That is not and never has been my complaint, nor anyone else's major complaint. The only time DB's money comes up is when somebody trying to defend DB pretends he's "serving his university" rather than raking in beaucoup bucks to try to make us feel bad for criticizing his poor job performance.
If I make another handle and get it 200 points then agree with something you say and offer a terrible reason for agreeing with you, will you thereby be committed to that terrible reason?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||...I've been married for like||
...I've been married for like 3 years, but thanks?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Congratulations||
You found a picture from another platform. Here is an equally relevant picture:
|2 weeks 3 days ago||People can read through the||
People can read through the longer exchange and see what they think. You obfuscated and lied. You can go ahead and claim I lied if you want to muddy the waters.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You are probably right||
I hope the powers that be realize why people aren't interested in the tickets.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Please read the first four||
Please read the first four words of the title of the OP and get back to me with your apology ASAP.
You may wish to read up on the number of AD employees DB initially fired, and the number of yes men he subsequently hired. Counterpunt's last column has those numbers.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Do you have any suggestions||
Do you have any suggestions about what to do with them or are you just complaining?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||let's agree to disagree||
Social media strategies are individuated by platform and obviously change over time. I agree that I didn't make that explicit before but I thought you weren't an idiot. Mea culpa. Thanks for the additional pictures of coaches' quotes and things from other years. I appreciate their continued irrelevance.
The Funchess picture is still not on Facebook. You are still lying. I am still not super impressed with your candor here.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I think Brian Cleary has been||
I think Brian Cleary has been getting mocked because of his statement, and that the AD bears responsibility for that. That's all I mean.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||NOT ON MICHIGAN FOOTBALL FACEBOOK PAGE||
Does the mic drop mean you want me to respond to this one? It's hard to tell because you also posted a bunch of irrelevant things, like images of coaches' quotes after I told you like 5 posts ago that previously they'd used coaches' quotes. I'm not really fluent in obfuscationism.
Let's just respond to this one. You work for the AD, right? Is that why you're pretending this image was on the Michigan Football Facebook page, which is the only thing we've been discussing here? It wasn't. Simply wasn't. You're lying. See the previous image I posted. I confess it was relevant after all. Why are you lying, dude?
It's not a tin foil thing to point out that you're lying, which you are, plain as day. It's just not there. You and the other Brandonites can downvote me all you want, but you know I'm right, which is why you first posted a bunch of coaches' quotes I already told you were there, and then you came up with this image which was never on the FB page. So, are you ready to agree the social media strategy has changed now?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I'm confused about what||
I'm confused about what game we're playing here. Am I just supposed to compare a number you pick with another number you pick? Why do I care about revenue rather than profit? Do you even have to pick numbers that both represent profits or can you pick profits in one case and revenues in the other case? Are we allowed to engage in "hypothetics"? I mean, can we compare what the profit would be if DB hadn't alienated a ton of fans with what it turns out to be?
Let me know what the rules are and then maybe you can tell me how to feel about the comparison if you're feeling generous. I mean, I hear I only have an EMU degree so you might have to help me out. My poor Eagle(?) head is spinning here.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yes, those were all coaches||
Funchess is also wearing last year's number in that photo. What year is it from? We're trying to establish whether they changed their PR strategy to avoid the kickoff boycott by using a SA. The Funchess picture isn't from the FB page in 2014. I mean, I could also post irrelevant things. For example, here is a picture of a movie poster:
But let's focus here.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Easy fix: I don't believe||
Easy fix: I don't believe that.
ETA: there are a few people just downvoting everything I say on this thread, but maybe this one requires more explanation. Michigan taxpayers have an interest in how virtually every part of the University is run, regardless of whether their tax dollars go to any particular part of it. In the case of the AD, unused dollars become General Fund dollars, so stupidly used dollars or stupidly foregone dollars (in the case of alumni told to find other teams to support) are dollars that do not end up in the General Fund. That's a connection that involves only following the money. I also think Michigan taxpayers have an interest in their public institutions being run in a transparent and accountable manner, which is another source of interest in the AD despite its self-sufficiency on paper. There is also the fact that the current AD's points policy undermines academic fundraising by dispensing privileges disproportionately on academic donors, which both President Schlissel and academic development officers do not like. Ok. Just spelling out the rest of the easy fix for all you haters.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||what is this shit||
I don't hang out with cats, mofo.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This made me laugh||
But we know the AD revamped PR strategy last Wednesday. I urged President Schlissel, in the same email where I notified him of my pending FOIA request, "to instruct the athletic department to put an immediate end to any activities intended to produce positive social media buzz about the current athletic director in a way that places current student-athletes at risk of harsh public censure."
At the time I was reacting to last week's spate of pro-DB SA tweets. But this image is more of the same, and it should be beneath Michigan Athletics to repurpose an athlete's enthusiasm to protect the Athletic Director from a protest.
Ain't no reach.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Close, but not quite||
He's a bag of ashes in a small wooden box in my home office.
Anyway I'm not really in mourning anymore. I just like the picture. Sorry if it offends you. I'm sure your childhood dog was also great, if you had one.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The guy with less than 200||
The guy with less than 200 MGoPoints probably does not speak accurately for the guys with thousands of them.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Oh, I must have missed all||
Oh, I must have missed all the pro-DB tweets from before this scandal. Might you be able to link me to them?
By the way, I don't think and have never said I think that DB is forcing SAs to support him. I think he is doing things that encourage them to support him publicly (wink wink nudge nudge), and otherwise (as here) publicly repackaging/repurposing what they say to prevent protests directed at him personally.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Go to Michigan Football's||
Go to Michigan Football's Facebook page and see if you can find something. (Hint: nope.)
At this point I would just like you to admit that it is a change in social media strategy. Then we can work on getting to the acknowledgement that it is a change in social media strategy that treats SAs as pawns to save DB's job.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Please explain the||
Please explain the coordinated spate of tweets in support of Brandon last week.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||?||
Happy to clarify. Where'd I lose you?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||You forgot "Have a happy||
You forgot "Have a happy life..."
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Who makes the decision to||
Who makes the decision to change social media strategies to put players' names and quotes on promotions which previously had just images or coaches' quotes? That's not an entry level decision.
It was probably also made by one of the 118 yes men DB hired after he fired a ton of AD employees for risible reasons.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||What's the issue here?||
Are you not attempting to stand in the way of getting DB fired? Analogies too hard for you? What is it?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I'd love to come together and||
I'd love to come together and listen to the band--a version of the band I can actually hear--and cheer for Michigan Football.
But if Dave Brandon is still AD on Saturday, I'm going to get a Dave Brandon Superbowl-Lite Wow! Experience Presented by Special Sponsor Chobani.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I assume you also missed the||
I assume you also missed the half-dozen other SAs who "spontaneously" posted about how much they love Brandon during his tour of practices last week.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Let's be honest here||
Downvote this post if you're paid by the athletic department to downvote posts that criticize Brandon. I'm putting the over/under on AD sockpuppets at 12. Any takers?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||But it's not their job||
Football players are at the Universty of Michigan to play football and to get an education. They are not here to help DB put out PR fires he created through his own arrogance and incompetence. If he can't do his job without asking student-athletes to spend their personal political capital to stop the fans from protesting him, he can't do his job.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Because there will be consequences to ignoring it||
First, it's a public school, and aside from having paid Michigan taxes for several years, I'm also an alumnus (x3) and periodic donor. They include several of my academic accomplishments on various umich.edu pages to boost their own profile. How dare they not care what I want?
But you're right, aaamichfan. There's no reason in all that that some of them--e.g., Dave Brandon--can see for them to care. That is, there's no reason they can see for them to care unless they repeatedly get bad press for flouting their fans' desires. That's why the boycott must go forward. That's why the students should again be on the Diag and on the President's lawn demanding change. We have to give them reason to care what we want.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Please read the comments||
Please read the comments above from your fellow Wolverines--not just me--about the appropriateness of this specific change in PR strategy.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Perfect illustration||
We're going to have days if not weeks of jokes at Brian Cleary's expense because of the way DB is encouraging student-athletes to go out on a limb for him. The AD should be telling student-athletes to stay out of it and emphasizing to them that the fans only want what is best for them and the program. But instead the AD has them all convinced there's no distinction between boycotting Brandon and criticizing student-athletes. That's yet another instance of Dave Brandon's Athletic Department letting student-athletes down.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||It's the first time all year||
It's the first time all year they've used a quote from a student-athlete instead of something made by a graphic designer with no quotes, or occasionally a Brady Hoke quote or (once) a Swag Mattison quote.
They're changing their social media strategy specifically to combat the boycott. They're well within their rights to do that, but using student-athletes as pawns to stop a protest is a bridge too far.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Too convenient||
It's the guy who fields kickoffs. But DB is counting on people being as gullible as you'd like me to be.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The point is not to let them||
The point is not to let them know what we want. They already know that. The point is to get what we want.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Hooray unnecessary police||
Hooray unnecessary police brutality?
Seriously, are you celebrating this? Offering it up as a joke?
Is there another angle that makes this look like a justified use of force rather than a cop punching an excited person for no good reason?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||It proves they actually need to fire Brandon||
If people give up now, as all these DB puppets are suggesting, then DB will be able to tell President Schlissel and the regents that people were just emotionally overreacting to the Utah loss. He'll be able to tell them it will all blow over soon. He'll be able to survive.
If you're a DB supporter, just own it. Don't pretend you want him gone while you work to save him. That's some Benedict Arnold shit.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Ah, now we're communists.||
Ah, now we're communists. Good. I assume you are a Nazi. Shall we fight in the streets of 1930s Munich?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This is how the rest plays out||
Brandon must be sent on his way. He will not just go.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||This is not indirect. This is not failing to support the team.||
This is visible and public. It is direct. It will be maximally direct if they show up for pregame events and then leave en masse for kickoff before returning.
There is no distinction between demanding DB's firing and supporting the team. People want DB fired so that an AD that better supports the team can be hired.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||omg, he's so selfless…oh wait||
He has a high paying job here, Professor. Higher paying than the job you purport to have, for instance.
Also, nobody is saying he's evil. He's just not good at this job.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||They can do both||
They can also be in the stadium for the pregame stuff and leave for kickoff. In fact, doing that would send the clearest message. (I actually think they should do it for the entire first quarter, but what they actually do is up to them.)
|2 weeks 3 days ago||"Decatur"?||
Wish I understood the rationale behind all the names here.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Brandon out||
I think Brandon has proven too divisive and must go ASAP. I'm willing to give Hoke a chance to turn it around under competent leadership, but they need to fix the AD leadership now so that the turn around can begin this season. I think it'll be hard to justify giving Hoke another year under new leadership next year if we haven't seen signs of improvement with Brandon already gone towards the end of this season.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The real issues are not about football performance||
I think DB should be fired because it's totally believable he would send insulting emails to the fanbase. If the FOIA requests come back showing he's actually done it as egregiously as reported, he's simply not fit for the job no matter who supports him or what coach he can hire.
Corporatism/profiteering is another disqualifying feature of DB, IMO, but the most serious issue is that he appears to be unable to accept responsibility in any substantial way for any problems that have occurred. Not only do they all have their own story, but that story certainly exonerates DB.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not the right person to ask about this||
I think of FOIA as only applying to government agencies, but I suppose publicly traded companies also have some obligations. But IDK. IANAL, and I've never done this before. 5 business days + a 10 business day extension for complicated requests is how FOIA law works in the state of Michigan. But I only know that from Google.
This is not in Brandon's hands. He doesn't oversee FOIA releases, and UM has bigger problems than we all think if he can personally obstruct them.
Re: legal action: I have lots of lawyer friends, but I love Michigan and have every confidence in the people who run the place (at least, outside of the current AD administration). I do not expect to have to make any decision about legal action.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Aw shucks, Muttley. You really understand me!||
That's what I had in mind. I'm glad it came through.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I confess that the Alanis||
I confess that the Alanis Mmoorriisseettee (that's brilliant, btw) song came out when I was at such a tender age that I am always worried about whether I've got it right.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Ah, yeah, I knew when the||
Ah, yeah, I knew when the event was, I just didn't remember when I threw the fit. I guess it must've been over the summer before that season, then.
I feel like they're in violation of the law if they routinely give themselves 10 extra days for every request. That would be disappointing.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I kind of expect it on Friday||
They didn't confirm receipt of the request on Friday despite the fact that I sent it Thursday evening, but I got the confirmation of receipt on a Saturday (so outside business hours) from a person whose job I would not expect to require being at the office on the weekend, a little over a day after I emailed President Schlissel's office and mentioned that I'd sent the request in. To me that says his office has someone checking on the situation. That could be overly optimistic, but who knows.
FWIW, I replied to say thanks, that I assumed that they'd received the request on Friday (she said she hadn't seen my request to confirm receipt at first--another sign that her attention was drawn back to it over the weekend, since she must've looked at my email again on Saturday for one reason or another), and that I'd expect the documents by this coming Friday (which is what the law more or less requires).
Now, they get 5 business days, and I could see them claiming receipt was after 5 pm Friday (though I don't know how that could be true, and her confirmation email was clear that she had initially received the email some time prior to confirming receipt), which would give them until next Monday. They are allowed to give themselves 10 extra business days for difficult-to-fulfill requests, though I don't see how what I asked for is complicated to gather. They are not allowed to take longer than that. So Oct. 27th is the absolute latest they can legally fulfill my request.
But if I don't have it by the end of business this coming Monday, I'll have to assume the search did not come back empty, and that they are taking their time editing out the names of senders of emails and the like. Should we get to that point, my further reaction will be governed by what I have heard from President Schlissel's office or other parties in the meantime.
To be honest, now that I think about it, I might make a giant sign for the Penn State game, requesting that they fulfill my FOIA request by Monday as the law requires, if I don't already have the documents come game time Saturday.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||terrible head coaching candidates for Michigan!?||
But I thought this thread was about a coach OTHER than Brady Hoke.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Oh, I meant "Jon06"||
And I'm just giving them crap because I threw a fit a long time ago about why we should be expected to give a shit about what BiSB thinks when he wasn't, IMO, a bonified expert, and then Brian basically called me a dick on the frontpage without using my handle.
Anyway Brian and I (and LSA and I, for that matter) shook hands at some event after that. Or maybe before that. But in my mind we have forgiven each other so let's pretend it's ok.
ETA: Most of them also have my real name because I've emailed them using it at various points. But really I just meant "Jon06" because I hope to one day be e-special on the interwebs.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||You're welcome||
I've been telling my wife my internet diatribes were important for years.
/s (sort of)
|2 weeks 5 days ago||One of these days you mofos||
One of these days you mofos are gonna have to start saying my name on the front page instead of obliquely referring to me all the time :p
ETA: I know this will never happen. To every man his little cross until he dies and is forgotten, as they say.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||That's because it's actually||
That's because it's actually ironic.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||It's coming in 5 days||
I got email confirmation that my FOIA request had been received Saturday just after 3 pm.
I'd emailed President Schlissel's office at lunchtime Friday to notify them of my pending FOIA request, and to ask them to put a PR professional in charge of vetting any email sent from DB's uniqname if there was any chance my FOIA request would not come back empty.
I have not received a form response to my email to President Schlissel's office; I assume it will get a somewhat more personalized response in the next day or two. (That's usually what happens when I send a spicy email to that office in which I actually make a good point.)
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Too pessimistic by far||
President Schlissel is smart enough to see through the interview tactic you think is so insuperable. The regents don't care enough about keeping Brandon around to put up with constant annoyance for more than a month or two, and it's not like they can just get a new fanbase or replace all the alumni. Bacon was saying last week that DB is already a dead man walking.
Brandon doesn't get to set the narrative, no matter how much he pays you or any other PR firm's sockpuppet.
I don't think Brandon is just "stupid and incompetent" by the way. I think he's stupid and incompetent and has a personality disorder that systematically prevents him from seeing his stupidity or incompetence. But I have no reason to think that Schlissel does not know what's up.
DB's needlessly hostile emails are still very likely to sink him, if nothing else does.
I shall call and email some regents tomorrow in your honor.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||This is why I proposed people||
This is why I proposed people wear black--so as not to show up on TV for Diamond Dave.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Unless your intention is to||
Unless your intention is to give Brandon cover, this is the wrong approach. The person who already responded to you is trying to save Brandon. Is that your angle?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Never leaving NU. (Might have||
Never leaving NU. (Might have gotten fired if he'd tanked this year, but I'm not sure that's a reason to hope...)
|2 weeks 5 days ago||He fake apologizes, like a 7||
He fake apologizes, like a 7 year old trying to make his mom stop being "mean" to him.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||The thing about apologies...||
The thing about apologies is that they have to be accepted.
APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED.
What you have noted is why Brandon will not resign. He is incapable of admitting fault. He will never see his responses as inadequate to the problems.
I am not a doctor, but I am more or less convinced he has narcissistic personality disorder--I'd love to get some medical opinionis based on the interviews, if anyone is willing, without examining him in person, to venture a diagnosis of the disability underlying his inability to think anything is actually his fault.
There is still hope for Schlissel and the regents. But the students must become impossible to ignore.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Name one way that will||
Name one way that will actually work.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||in the private sector||
I always assumed you did in the private sector to (at least appear to) ensure that duties to various stakeholders have been fulfilled by undertaking a rigorous search process to make the best hire possible.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||oh, right||
I also pledge to take part, and I will make sure to get there early enough for my leaving for kickoff to be apparent to those around me in section 23.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||ok dude||
Cold War, it's time for you to shut the fuck up. Morris wasn't concussed, the national media wouldn't pick up the story, it's not Hoke's fault, it's not that bad, it's not Brandon's fault, blahblahblahblahblah. You've been wrong about everything and you're now actively interfering with attempts to do something to fix the AD. Just sit this one out already.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I like this idea||
But the message needs to be as clear as possible. If the students are chanting "Fire Brandon" in the concourse while they're boycotting kickoff, chanting "Fire Brandon" while they file in to their seats, and chanting "Fire Brandon" during every TV timeout, then I think this will be a great and effective protest. I also agree with the calls above for signs and other visual symbols of displeasure. The message needs to be clear enough and loud enough to reach Schlissel and the regents in no uncertain terms.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Floating an idea||
How do people feel about the idea of wearing black to the PSU game? Our program is dead. Shouldn't we mourn it?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Unbelievable.||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||First, stop talking about Hoke and the Harbaughs||
Every call to fire Hoke relieves pressure on Brandon. People calling for Hoke's firing before Brandon's are playing directly into his bullshit "people wouldn't be upset if we were 5-0" storyline. Those people are just giving Brandon cover.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||I agree completely||
I like this opinion so much that it's my own. See any of my several comments in this thread, including this:
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Stark contrast indeed||
This is exactly the problem with Brandon. The guy doesn't ever admit an error. He mouths the words. He says the responsibility lies with him because he's the boss, but you can tell he doesn't actually get it. He blames everyone but himself. Later he tells you "we apologized" like a 7 year old who doesn't understand why he's still being punished after he said the thing you wanted him to say.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||That's not the point||
Please read any of the several clarifications above.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||not the point||
See above. Lettermen need to be on board with the change when it happens. Canning Brandon now is a step in the right direction.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||There is a point so low that||
There is a point so low that fracture will not result from a coaching change. But an AD change might well eliminate the need to go there. I don't think we've really understood the depths of DB's destruction yet.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||fanbase, yes. family, no.||
The fanbase, former lettermen, and most other stakeholders are united on firing Brandon.
The lettermen want to keep Hoke. Those are the people who undermined RR. IMO you fire Brandon now and let the new AD--Manuel or Bates, presumably--evaluate Hoke after the season to see how he does the rest of the way without a terrible boss interfering constantly.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Starting the thread was||
Starting the thread was equally creepy, dude.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||But that's no balls...||
A juvenile castrato with dwarfism and half a dim wit would have the "balls" it takes to fire Brandon.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Lower than that||
The depths of this chasm are immeasurable as long as Brandon is AD.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I may write a long piece||
I may write a long piece explaining this shortly but basically I think it would fracture the Michigan family again, and that didn't go so well last time.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I may be boarding the fire||
I may be boarding the fire Hoke bandwagon again here shortly.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Your sarcastic snowflake is||
Your sarcastic snowflake is still a snowflake, yo.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||par for the course in creepiness in this thread||
I like how this is getting downvoted even though it is only exactly as creepy as the heavily upvoted OP.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Counterpunt||
What in the fuck? Brian, can we get an exposé interview with Counterpunt and hear more about how exactly long term people left? I'll spend every TV timeout for the rest of the season chanting Fire Brandon in exchange.
|3 weeks 4 hours ago||Look on the bright side||
At least they took time to come up with slogan for putting a doctor in the box. It's an "eye in the sky concept"--marketing angle covered.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||Just spend a few decades||
Just spend a few decades aging and then waste a lot of time Googling random stuff. (I.e., become a graduate student.)
|3 weeks 1 day ago||wow feldman||
He kind of plagiarized that one, no?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Hmm||
Being a dick is pretty close to what you have in mind, no?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Ankle is fine. Back in the||
Ankle is fine. Back in the game.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||This is what the internet is for, folks||
Why would anyone downvote this thread?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That's not how they roll.||
That's not how they roll. Every part of this place aside from the current AD is run by professionals. Seriously.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks for the heads up. I||
Thanks for the heads up. I was also assuming it would actually be free, but I wouldn't put it past them to pretend they have no easy way of getting the documents given the dissembling we've seen thus far.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||almost||
Bacon is a lecturer rather than a professor. (I assume he doesn't want to be a professor, because it would be obviously stupid for UM to fail to have hired him as a professor if he were interested in the full gig.)
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Already FOIAd it. See||
Already FOIAd it. See thread.
At least get them to make a foia that gets more/other than I got, or contact me, please. No sense in paying 2 fees.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||wtf||
Where'd the thread with the alleged DB email go?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Tweet him that it's already||
Tweet him that it's already been FOIA'd and to check this thread, will you? I don't twit.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That's funny because I just||
That's funny because I just so happen to have $232.40.
I also have the president's email address, and if they come back asking for exorbitant fees, I'll use it to ask him what he thinks I'll find if I decide to pay them.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||we'll see||
To: email@example.com Dear Ms. Sellinger, This is an official Freedom of Information Act request for a complete email chain, including the email described below, which I will call EMAIL ONE, the email sent from the email address to which it was directed as a response, and any other FOIA-accessible email related to it via the common reply or forwarding email functions. I also hereby request any email originating from firstname.lastname@example.org containing the phrase "have a happy life" and any email originating from email@example.com containing the phrase "without you". I believe EMAIL ONE originated from firstname.lastname@example.org. I believe the content of EMAIL ONE to be, at least in part, the following: I suggest you find a new team to support. > We will be fine without you. > Have a happy life... Please confirm receipt of this FOIA request at your earliest convenience. Thank for your prompt attention, Professor [Jon06] (AB '06, MA [xx], Ph.D [xx])
|3 weeks 1 day ago||bzzzt||
uniqnames are forever. DaveBrandonAD@umich.edu goes to his office. dabran is his uniqname (i.e., his real, direct umich email address).
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Two issues here||
1. I don't know why the SJ would've said that. Maybe there was a miscommunication. Maybe the SJ is an idiot. Maybe there was crowd noise. Hoke's story on this has been consistent all along, and the AD looks bad enough on other issues that there's no reason to look for a smoking gun here. We have the smoking gun already in the AD's ridiculous behavior since it happened.
2. The interaction with the umpire is irrelevant, given that Hoke was operating under the assumption that his medical staff had just evaluated Shane and let him come back onto the field. I agree that Hoke should not have been operating under that assumption. Maybe that's on DB for letting Hoke delegate like that, or maybe it's on Hoke for not having enough of a spine to assert himself as being in charge of everything on the sideline. But I don't think the story is incoherent or contrived.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||He's answered this question repeatedly||
Shane was already out on the field and Hoke was operating on the assumption that the medical staff had done its job in evaluating him.
I think that reflects a problem that needs to be fixed in terms of how Hoke thinks of his job relative to the medical staff. Of course he can't overrule them, but that doesn't absolve him of the duty to pay attention to what's going on. But I see no good reason to conclude he's lying about this.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Why this is unfair to Hoke||
Hoke has consistently claimed that he told a sidejudge that he wanted to use a timeout to put Gardner back in, and the sidejudge said Gardner had to sit regardless. Hoke knew that was wrong, but when he saw Morris on the field, he let it go. He must assumed that Morris wouldn't be out there unless he was ok--after all, the head trainer had just been looking at Morris.
The big problem that this reveals is that Hoke continues to roll over when refs don't do what they should. This is of a piece with his failure to go ballistic when Minnesota's DE wasn't ejected for targeting. It's of a piece with the fact that even our games at home this year have involved an awful lot of calls and non-calls that don't go our way. Hoke just doesn't assert himself with the referees on the sidelines. This is something he needs to learn to do.
But Hoke is not just lying. He's been 100% consistent with this claim throughout. You guys just aren't paying close enough attention if you think otherwise.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Perhaps my favorite WD post||
Perhaps my favorite WD post ever.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Yeah so that was kind of the||
Yeah so that was kind of the joke.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Deeply unseemly||
Hot take: Brandon is abusing the enthusiasm of these kids to fight a PR battle for his job. This is unseemly, and if I'm President Schlissel, I don't like it. Of course, if Brandon had enough class to realize this was ridiculous in the first place, the department wouldn't be such a clownshow to begin with.
IMO the serious and insuperable problem for Brandon is that he learned to lead in a world where his stakeholders were a bunch of overworked hourly employees who lacked the time and energy to pick through his disingenuous PR efforts. But the stakeholders at Michigan are thousands of lawyers, thousands of PR professionals, thousands of doctors, and tens of thousands of other intelligent and successful people with the time, energy, and commitment to Michigan to look past the lapel pin on this particular empty suit.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Somebody send this Bernie guy||
Somebody send this Bernie guy a DVD of Frost/Nixon.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||DB will be in charge of what gets asked||
He's just going with a journalist he can control in exchange for granting the interview.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||bah||
Maybe you'd have enough time to do your job if you shaved your beard, hippie.*
*I am just kidding. My beard is way bigger than your tiny ladybeard.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Totally meaningless. Kerridge||
Totally meaningless. Kerridge and Countess (whose name is spelled wrong on their site) are listed as members, but I wouldn't make anything out of this. They can't say anything else, and frankly it's worse in my view if the AD heard this was coming and let them put themselves on the wrong side of this story to try to save DB.
I mean, this guy's whole problem is that he surrounds himself with yes men and can't admit a mistake, and here it is again.
I hope student-athletes understand that none of this is criticism of them, though. This is about ensuring they have the leadership, oversight, and protection they deserve as they pursue their goals and represent the University so much more positively than the AD administration has in recent days.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||no||
Unfortunately the kid doesn't think he belongs at Michigan, so he wasn't going to get up and do it. I'm glad they got it together though. That was good.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||random dude||
It's really too bad he didn't turn the megaphone over to the people who should've been talking to the crowd.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||The whole thing was a||
The whole thing was a miscommunication.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Is there footage of Brian's||
Is there footage of Brian's interview? Only thing I missed.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I missed this. We need a||
I missed this. We need a transcript.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This guy's getting way off||
This guy's getting way off message. He should keep it about the mishandling of Shane's concussion.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Who is megaphone guy? He||
Who is megaphone guy? He should turn it over to the petition author next.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Unreal||
ahhh where'd this guy get the loudspeaker? that's great.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This dude needs the People's Microphone||
Hooray "protect our players" chant. Hooray whichever one of you has exactly my intuitions and/or is reading my posts.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||YES||
Good job, students!
It'd be great if you guys got some "We support Shane" or "Support the team! / Fire Brandon!" or "Support the players!" kinds of chants going, too.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||doesn't matter||
camp out there long enough and he'll show up
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I thought you were leading||
I thought you were leading them to Schlissel's lawn.
Also, it doesn't matter if Schlissel lives there. He'll get the message that the students are there. Stay there long enough and he'll show up.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||He's guessing||
But it's a good guess. But it's wrong about the endgame--Schlissel's statement paves the way to fire Brandon for cause, and sooner or later Brandon's going to retain a lawyer who's going to explain that to him.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Thank you. Do it please.||
Thank you. Do it please.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||why am i not in a2?||
i could lead this. lead your people, WD. Brian. somebody.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||ok kids||
for serious, somebody needs to lead this to the president's lawn, chant "come out schlissel" until he shows up, and then chant "fire brandon" for a while until he asks for quiet and again promises the students directly that he will take care of things.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||here's an idea||
WD: you should get on a bench and get everyone's attention, then lead a march to the president's house and chant "fire brandon" on his lawn.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I've got sound but no video||
I've got sound but no video on the feed.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||hey WD||
yell "mic check"
hopefully enough people will know what to do from there from OWS.
then you can make a statement and get some stuff organized.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||The Office of the General||
The Office of the General Counsel and the AD/President's PR people wrote the statements. But don't be distracted by the professionalism of the statements. Look at the content. Look at the clearly implied criticisms that a University President just publicly let fly about an embattled underling. These are very serious people. Those are very serious criticisms to make public. That's as close as President Schlissel can come to saying "I'm going to fire Dave Brandon as soon as legal figures out our strategy for not paying him his full buyout."
The way these things work is that you have to negotiate a buyout--we won't fire you for cause and you won't sue us and we'll say complimentary things about you and you'll resign for a small payoff. That takes time. It takes time for an egotistical asshole like DB to come to terms with the fact that he's done. It takes time for his lawyer and the U's lawyers to come to terms and get DB to accept those terms. And it takes time to craft a plan to competently run an AD that's been recently restaffed by handpicked yes men without the leader it is supposed to be their entire job to fawn over.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Guys, Brandon is done||
That is the statement of a University President who is about to fire his Athletic Director for cause. They're going to get sued by Brandon for doing it, so they have to be careful here. But read between the lines--Brandon is done.
HOORAY PRESIDENT SCHLISSEL!
PRESIDENT SCHLISSEL FOR PRESIDENT!
LONG LIVE THE PRESIDENT!
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This||
The thing about our communications going forward is also an extremely serious shot across Brandon's bow in a situation like this. Like I said below, I really, really hope this is real. That is a statement from somebody who knows how to run this place. And Brandon is as good as gone if indeed Schlissel released that.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Atta boy, President||
Atta boy, President Schlissel!
I hope that's real. That is how you handle yourself at the University of Michigan.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||It seems to me that firing||
It seems to me that firing Hoke will fracture the Michigan family again. But firing Brandon now will not. We should start there.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Thanks.||
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Howard is completely confused about what's happening||
What is happening is not an expression of a lack of support for the team.
What is happening is an expression of disgust with the lack of leadership and accountability in Schembechler Hall, starting at the very top.
What is happening is an expression of support for the players, who just deserve better.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||national media is there||
That's a sure sign that there are reporters in the room that aren't part of the regular crew.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||FPG, I presume?||
Thanks. And no hard feelings--as I recall the meeting, you were polite and humored me well.
I mean, I have a t-shirt with you on it (Sports!) but it's not like I have a claim on your friendship.
But anyway thanks again for your comments. I finished my third Michigan degree in August and teach at a college in (gulp) Ohio now, although I'm back on campus for a few football and basketball games each year. (During basketball games on January weekends, you can probably find me behind Michigan's bench, three or four rows behind the Maize Rage, equipped with a large beard and maybe a toddler.)
|3 weeks 3 days ago||on what and who?||
Are these ESPN talking heads?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Re: Hoke's integrity||
If I were Hoke, and indeed he got hung out to dry like I think he did, I'd be in Schlissel's office with one sentence to share: Dave Brandon just tried to end my career, and if he's not fired in the next two weeks, I quit.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||I agree||
I like the sentiment behind this post so much I said it myself on Sunday: http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/silver-lining-i-have-found-it
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This should be in the OP||
Add the fact that Braden signed to the OP, OP.
FALSE ALARM. It's the other Braden. See downthread for confirmation.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Re: the Braden signature||
If in fact Ben Braden signed this, that needs to be prominently announced in the OP/title.
HOWEVER there are two students named Benjamin Braden at the U. (Just checked MCommunity.) It needs to be determined whether Ben Braden the RT is Benjamin A. Braden or Benjamin D. Braden. It's unclear to me how to figure this out, as a quick Google search failed.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Co-signed||
This whole fiasco is the only time I've understood why people care about headsets. Somebody needed to be in Hoke's ear telling him to get his ass out on the field and let the referee have it. They could've gotten it right as targeting immediately if Hoke had gone crazy on the sidelines. Shane would've come out and been evaluated immediately if they had.
|3 weeks 3 days email@example.com|
|3 weeks 3 days ago||This is 100% right||
The blame for the clownshow falls at Brandon's feet. Brandon hung Hoke out to dry. I think the evidence says we should take Mattison on his word re: Hoke's character. The guy is incompetent to ensure that the right thing happens in an Athletic Department run by an utterly mendacious CEObot, but he is not totally without integrity. I was on the fire-Hoke-immediately bandwagon, but only because I had no idea how craven and deceitful Dave Brandon could be.
9 pm: leak to Bacon that the statement's not coming tonight, so everyone can go to bed.
1 am: statement released. (Bacon might wanna reevaluate his sources, because he got played, too.)
Anyway, thanks for writing this, Brian. IMO, you fire Brandon now, and you let the new AD decide whether Hoke gets next year. I hope for the players' sake that the team finishes strong either way.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||that's not bullshit||
That's Hoke getting fucked by Brandon.
Brian, can you confirm?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Why?||
Aren't clinical concussion diagnoses less than certain? (Can we get a Heiko-splanation?)
I'm 100% with you in how you reacted to this, but I'm not sure the "probable" is wrong.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Between the lines||
This statement says exactly what needs to have been said. The only issue is the utter incompetence in producing and communicating it. Given access to the doctors, I could have written the goddamn thing in less time than it took them to let Shane walk back on the field.
Reading between the lines, it sounds like Brandon wanted to avoid these frank concessions of the concussion and the communication problem. But the medical professionals behaved as employees at a public university must, and insisted on the release of a thorough and honest statement. I said it in the 'silver lining' thread and I'll say it here: acknowledging what happened and getting things fixed when you fuck up is the way Michigan operates. It does not seem to be the way that Dave Brandon operates, and that is why he needs to go.
Re: the press conference: Hoke was hung out to dry on this, and I hope he's fucking livid. I don't know if I'm back in his corner--as much as I think having failsafes in place falls in the AD's lap, Hoke has to keep himself more informed than he was. I think going forward, given that this statement says exactly what needed to be said, and exactly what should have been said about 3 minutes after the game ended, I think Hoke can be saved if he shows total contrition about the failure that occurred on his watch together with righteous anger that there was so much foot-dragging in admitting what happened. But Brandon must go.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Quality||
|3 weeks 4 days firstname.lastname@example.org sends||
email@example.com sends things to Schlissel's office.
The regents' stuff is here: http://www.regents.umich.edu/about/regents.html
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Brian Cook for Regent||
I can dig it.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||So fire the medical staff||
They obviously didn't evaluate him for a concussion. The only possible explanation of that is that they weren't paying enough attention to have developed a suspicion that he had a concussion.
Unless Heiko goes front page or some other MGoDoctor turns up with a convincing and thorough explanation of why those were not concussion-like symptoms, there's no getting out of this one. Sorry, Cold War.