fair point that
|1 day 14 hours ago||Aaron Shea||
Think it was Brian that said this somewhere, but Smith as an Aaron Shea type FB would be awesome. If you could put someone like a Kareem Walker and Smith in the backfield at the same time, that would create all sorts of problems for opposing defenses.
|1 day 15 hours ago||King also has 8 INTs which is||
King also has 8 INTs which is the same as Michigan has as a team. Tough to argue he doesn't deserve to be a finalist.
Cash also has 18 tackles for loss, which is kinda insane.
|2 days 15 hours ago||That's meta as hell, but what||
That's meta as hell, but what does it mean for Michigan? Who was he silent committed to?
|3 days 22 hours ago||Except we have injures.||
Except we have injures. That's why he said "right now"
|3 days 22 hours ago||Last time I checked, they had||
Last time I checked, they had the W, and Michigan didn't.
|4 days 8 hours ago||Never mind. Forgot that's a||
Never mind. Forgot that's a FOX game. Probably still Bedlam since the winner of that one likely wins the Big 12.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Sounds about right. I think||
Sounds about right. I think the committee will drop Florida though. They've looked bad two games in a row now. Slide them down and wedge Ohio State somewhere in that 8-11 range.
|4 days 9 hours ago||Could see them maybe going to||
Could see them maybe going to ND-Stanford. Especially if that's the ABC Primetime game. That's probably the biggest game of the week now.
|4 days 10 hours ago||No way. Big Ten is in the||
No way. Big Ten is in the playoff as long as uncle Barry is on the committee.
|4 days 13 hours ago||Here's my conspiracy theory||
Zeke Elliott just said he's going pro too. Amongst some other things...
But here's my conspiracy theory: Ohio State lost on purpose. Urban Meyer is going to one of the monster job openings like USC, Georgia, LSU, or maybe Texas.
Due to recruiting, he needs to take the job as soon as the regular season is over. If Ohio State is in the playoff, he can't leave early -- he would be obligated to stick it out and coach through the playoff. But if they are out of it, he can leave when the regular season is done. So to be out of the playoff, he needed to lose to Michigan State or Michigan. Out of shear principle, he can't lose to Michigan so they drop the MSU game on purpose. That way he can still beat Michigan next week, and then leave on a high note.
|4 days 21 hours ago||Yeah that's the Spurrier you||
Yeah that's the Spurrier you would get week in and week out. Not an upgrade.
|4 days 22 hours ago||Spurrier doesn't give enough||
Spurrier doesn't give enough of a shit to do it. If you think Corso looks out of it and unprepared wait until you see Spurrier up there.
|1 week 21 hours ago||Who gives a shit if they were unbeaten?||
What does being unbeaten have to do with anything? Neither Iowa or Ohio State have played anyone of consequence. You don't get extra credit for beating them because you were the first good team they played.
|1 week 1 day ago||Maybe||
I wouldn't take anything the committee has done this year or last as gospel. Each week things change and they may come up with some new shit they like.
I'm just saying its not as simple as win out and we're in. They need a few other things to go their way.
|1 week 1 day ago||Exactly||
Michigan wins out, Stanford beats ND, USC beats Stanford is your path.
|1 week 1 day ago||Except this week||
Except this week when they ranked Stanford ahead of us.
|1 week 1 day ago||Stanford is ahead of us||
You also need to remember that Stanford is ahead of us as a 2-loss team. I don't know if wins over Ohio State and Iowa would be enough to trump their wins over Notre Dame and the Pac-12 South champ.
And hell, if Stanford beats Notre Dame, I'm not even sure if we jump ND in the 2-loss pile. ND would have losses to two top 10 teams. Our two losses would be near the ass end of the top 25 at that point. I think the committee would rank them ahead of us.
|1 week 1 day ago||No way its that high||
No way its high as 80%. I'd put it more around 40% if they win out. If Michigan wins out the rest of the regular season, that's probably only good enough to get them up to #6 or 7. Ohio State would drop out of the top 4 and would likely be replaced by the winner of Oklahoma - Oklahoma State. So you'd have a top four of Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, Okla/Okla St. They'd play #5 Iowa in the Big Ten champ game, and unless they crush Iowa it would be tough to justify more than a move up to Iowa's #5 ranking.
Outside of winning out, the best thing Michigan fans can cheer for is Stanford beating Notre Dame, and then (probably) USC beating Stanford in the Pac-12 title game. That would clear the path for Michigan to move into the top four to make it Clemson, Alabama, Big 12 winner, Michigan.
|1 week 1 day ago||Need a lot of help still||
It'll be tough. They need MSU to lose to Ohio St, Notre Dame to lose to Stanford, and Stanford to lose the Pac-12 champ game ideally. Some more carnage in the Big 12 would help too. If Michigan wins out, they'll have wins over the #3 team, and the #5 team and that might be just enough to squeak in as a 2-loss #4 team.
|1 week 1 day ago||A nice slap on the ass and a||
A nice slap on the ass and a "GO GETUM!!" as the ball carrier flys past you?
|1 week 1 day ago||OP was probably sarcastic but||
OP was probably sarcastic but the context is very much appreciated. I have no idea what a reasonable amount of missed tackles is.
|1 week 3 days ago||Team Rankings||
TeamRankings has good info. All nicely organized too.
|1 week 3 days ago||And now I want BBQ.||
And now I want BBQ.
|1 week 3 days ago||Its also pretty far off from||
Its also pretty far off from "covered most of the spreads" which is what I was responding to.
But to your point, its only one-game off which in this situation is as close as you can get. So like I said, is not too far off.
|1 week 3 days ago||BONUS FUN FACT||
Since 2006, Michigan is 17-28-1 (37.8%) on the road against the spread. Third worst in the FBS. As an away favorite, they are just 7-13 (35%) in that span.
The last 10 years have been rough.
BONUS, BONUS FUN FACT: They are 1-2 ATS on the road as a favorite this season.
|1 week 3 days ago||This game has ugly shitfest||
This game has ugly shitfest written all over it. It'll be something dumb like 18-16.
|1 week 3 days ago||Haven't been a ton better this year either||
Michigan is 5-5 against the spread this season, which isn't too far off their 10-year average. Since 2006 they are 51-67-5 ATS (43.2%). There are only 8 teams that have been worse over that time.
So he's right, had you consistently bet against Michigan on the spread over the last 10 years, you would have made a nice little profit.
And just for shits and giggles, guess who the best at covering the spread over the last 10 seasons is? Ohio State at 75-50-2 (60%). Impressive.
|1 week 5 days ago||Vodka Ginger Ale Ice In my||
In my belly
Commence warm fuzzy feeling
|3 weeks 12 hours ago||True non profits.LOL, the||
True non profits.
|3 weeks 14 hours ago||Putting up the Photoshop batsignal||
Now someone just needs to swap out Jack's face for Harbaugh's and replace those metal tins with NFL team logos, and we'll have a GIF for the ages.
|3 weeks 20 hours ago||Scenario is if Michigan wins Big Ten||
The scenario is if Michigan wins the Big Ten at 11-2. They would need OSU to beat MSU and then Michigan has to beat OSU and wind up the higher rated team by the selection committee to go to the Big Ten championship game where they would beat Iowa to win the Big Ten. An 11-2 Big Ten champ Michigan probably isn't getting in the playoff.
The hard part will be that you'd have to have faith that the committee would put a 12'ish ranked Michigan over a recently beaten top 3'ish Ohio State to wind up being the team that goes to the Big Ten championship game.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Its all part of the game||
Bad calls by the officials are just as much of a part of the game as bad plays and calls by the teams. You can't go back and change the outcome of a game just because a bad call happened on the last play of the game. Because if you're going to do that, then why stop there? Why not go back to the second quarter and overturn a TD because there was holding or something.
Shit happens. And shit happening is a glorious part of CFB.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||It is maddening as hell to||
It is maddening as hell to watch an offense that simply can't throw the ball downfield AT ALL. Like I watched some highlights at halftime of other teams throwing the ball downfield and was just like...fuck...we don't have ANYONE that can do that?? That shit is a basic part of being a QB.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Keys in the ignition was the||
Keys in the ignition was the mistake. Had a cop tell me back in HS that even if the car is parked and off and you're sleeping, if the keys are in the ignition that's all the proof they need for a DUI. Throw the keys on the floor and sleep in the back seat and you'll be fine.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||And Georgia is down to a||
And Georgia is down to a third stringer. So....advantage Florida.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Considering in the midst of||
Considering in the midst of those channels are networks like AMC (Walking Dead) and FX (The Americans) and USA (Mr. Robot) and not to mention networks like TNT and TBS home to the NBA and all of the dumb reruns I like to watch....yeah that's some good content all bundled together nicely.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Nah, if anything, we're||
Nah, if anything, we're exiting the golden age of sports broadcasting.
To trim costs, networks will look to produce games cheaper. That means fewer cameras, shittier production crews (just think of a BTN broadcast if you're wondering how that will go), and doing things like having announcers call the game from an audio booth 1000mi away.
You'll also see less games broadcast and replaced with cheaper to produce talking head content. Much in the same way networks have replaced scripted shows for cheap reality TV or game shows or shit like Dancing With The Stars.
Then, for premium content, like say...Michigan football games, they charge more for that because it's in demand.
I think one day we'll look back and say "man, we used to be able to get quality broadcasts of almost every game from every conference, league, and sport for $150 a month or so AND I could get 200 other channels of content with it."
Glory days are over my man.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I explained in more detail||
I explained in more detail above, but part of the reason they paid so much more is because they are also negotiating to run that NFL content on all of their shows. The NFL is their lifeblood and CBS, NBC, and Fox don't have the countless hours and tons of shows that need NFL highlights to fill. That's why ESPN paid so much more. They are using the video in a whole hell of a lot more places than any other network.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||You're right to an extent.||
You're right to an extent. It's not just the rights to air the game they pay for. Part of the money they pay, and a reason they pay so much for things like the NFL, is they also pay for the right to use the footage from those games in other shows like Sportscenter, NFL Live, NFL Primetime, OTL, First Take, Mike and Mike, etc, etc
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah that'll be interesting.||
Yeah that'll be interesting. With cuts at ESPN and Fox, it would seem the bubble has either popped or execs are at least aware it's about to pop and will (or should be) budget conscious with their bids. Both Fox and ESPN have about the same amount ($44b if I remember right) tied up in long term deals. Will be interesting to see what the Big Ten is able to get from them. Each network is playing a bit of a game of chicken with the financial future of their networks at stake.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Believe it or not, First Take||
Believe it or not, First Take gets huge ratings for them. And in turn, big ad dollars.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||No||
|4 weeks 3 days ago||What's the difference between||
What's the difference between Alabama and Utah? Both have fluky losses to mediocre teams due to lots of turnovers, and neither has beaten anyone that has turned out to be that good. Alabama's wins are over a bunch of overhyped shitty teams.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||No. They compare teams by||
No. They compare teams by resume in small groups and build their rankings that way. Last year, the AP Poll started to reflect the CFP rankings, not the other way around.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Who cares? Scoreboard, man.||
Who cares? Scoreboard, man. Rankings don't mean shit if you don't win on the field.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Will be interesting to see||
Will be interesting to see who gets left out this year. Say OSU wins out, Baylor wins out, and ND beats Stanford...would be some interesting calls for that final spot. You'd be picking between the Pac-12 champ, ACC champ, and SEC champ. Undefeated Clemson still isn't a sure thing. Baylor at least has the benefit of having some ranked teams on the backend of their schedule. Clemson has nothing.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Fourth shutout in five weeks||
Fourth shutout in five weeks
|5 weeks 19 hours ago||That's not how TV or business works in general||
The reason they run ads and run so many of them are because they (along with Fox, CBS, NBC, Turner, etc) have to pay for the ever increasing billions and billions in rights fees they've shelled out to leagues for the right to broadcast their games. Its not short term gain, but rather trying to stay even for both short and long term.
And its not simply a matter of asking advertisers to shell out more -- that's just not how business works in general. They have budgets and bottom lines as well, and while live sports is one of the few good buys left in the ad world, you can only get so much from advertisers. If you ask them for 50% more so you can run 50% fewer ads, they will tell you to fuck off and spend their ad money elsewhere. And then you'll have no ad revenue and be up shit's creek.
The more people that cut the cord, the more ads you're going to see. Either that, or it'll go to a pay per view model and you'll be shelling out $50+ per high demand game.
|5 weeks 19 hours ago||For all the people that work||
For all the people that work at ESPN and are effected by this...
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Nope||
No, that was pretty much his normal wind up in the fourth quarter. His three successful punts took 1.5s, 1.3s, and 1.4 from the ball hitting his hands to hitting his foot. The one I used was the 1.5s one, so its a touch longer than normal, but not by a second or anything like that.
And from what I can tell going frame by frame, .1s is about equal to a yard of distance covered by MSU. And MSU slowed up once the ball was fumbled anyways so the fact I used the slightly slower one makes much of a difference. Half the MSU team was going to be in his face.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Not if the other team isn't fielding it||
You don't have to cover the punt downfield if the other team isn't bothering to return it.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Here watch this||
OK, to drive home my point, watch this GIF I just made. Its an overlay of the botched punt and a second very similar punt from a punt with 12:15 to go in the 4th Q. I've lined up the line of scrimmage, blockers, and Blake the best I can, and synced the snaps and moment it hits his hand. Watching it in real speed, you can see we were fucked regardless.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||That's true, but doesn't change much||
You're right that Michigan's blocking was rolling right, but that doesn't change the fact that two of those three guys on the right are going to be coming in clean. And a third MSU player blew past a block and was coming up the middle.
On his previous three punts, he moved forward about 3 yards to punt after catching it, and took 1.5s to punt it. 1.5s after it hits his hands is this frame, and 3 yards forward is right where he's at in the frame. That's bad news even with a clean catch.
This is also a good shot of the four players heading up field to block empty space.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Didn't take that long||
It didn't take that long. 1.5s after the ball reaches him, he has 6 MSU players within 5 yards, and four of them are within about 2 yards. That's a blocked punt even if he catches it clean.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||It was a colossal ST coaching F'up||
I've watched that play back so many times frame by frame from every angle available on the broadcast and that whole punt was doomed from the beginning. If O'Neill catches it clean, I'm convinced its getting blocked. MSU called an all out punt block and Michigan either didn't notice or didn't care and went with their normal punt return setup. That's an awful fuckup by the coaches, and it came after they called a time out.
I mean, there's a Michigan player out wide lined up over no one, three unblocked Spartans on the left side of the formation, and four Michigan players head down field after the snap to cover cover a non-existant returner.
That's some Brady Hoke level fuck-upery there.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Its in play, but ain't gonna happen||
Before the MSU game, I thought Michigan might beat Ohio State. But regardless of how the MSU game ended, I think we have pretty slim chances there. MSU was very weak in the secondary and we could barely do anything to exploit it. Ohio State is a more talented D, and a more potent offense. Gonna be tough to beat that with our limitations.
9-3 would still be a good season though.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Cost us our only two losses so far||
The no turnovers thing has been nice, but if he could connect at all on a deep ball we'd be undefeated. The inability to do so cost us wins at Utah and against MSU.
But it is what it is at this point. Its not in his arsenal, it will keep our offense limited, and it will probably cost us another loss or two down the road. Sometimes you just are what you are, and Michigan is a great defensive team with a handicapped/limited offense. And teams like that generally finish with 2-4 losses.
Its tough to be really good on both sides of the ball.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Dude, he was screwed no matter what||
Watch the tape again, and you'll see that punt was doomed from the get go. MSU had a 10 on 8 advantage on the line and only 1 or 2 of our guys bothered to hold a block at all because they were blocking for a return and not a max protect punt. The line looked like that image of Michigan's OL against Ohio State a few years back where every defender has moved through.
Furthermore, on Blake's second to last punt, there was 2.2s from snap to kick. And that was a fairly quick kick -- not one of his hold it and then punt kicks. At 2.2s on this one, he's got 4 unblocked guys surrounding him, plus another 2-3 within a couple yards. It would have been a miracle if he got that punt off clean even with a perfect snap.
I'm shitty at embedding so this probably won't work, but here's the pics:
Presnap -- dude lined up wide with no one on him should have been clue #2. No one back to return should have been clue #1.
Just after the snap. Sieve engaged and you can see Michigan players heading upfield to block no one.
And 2.2s after the snap -- the time when Blake should be putting foot to ball. Just a swarm of bodies around him.
The coaches botched this one. MSU was going full block, and Michigan was punting expecting a return. Blake was set up to fail regardless of whether or not it was a clean snap and catch.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||The Scar Game||
Seems pretty perfect. Has the whole asshole brother thing, and then the feeling of being throw off a cliff.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Eat a dick. Respectfully of course.||
Eat a dick. Respectfully of course.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Because it was a fluke. Some||
Because it was a fluke. Some times shitty things happen for no goddamn good reason at all. This was one of those times.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Dude we threw it downfield||
Dude we threw it downfield the series before that and missed a sure fire TD that would have sealed the game. There's a reason we don't throw down field. It just doesn't work with Rudock. It's a big flaw with this team and is what it is for the year.
|6 weeks 10 hours ago||Me too. Keep hoping he starts||
Me too. Keep hoping he starts making them again. They were really good.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Ah the ol' "hey man, this was||
Ah the ol' "hey man, this was kinda shitty" waiver.
And oldy, but goody.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Did you forget about the 2015 class?||
Did you forget about the 2015 class? From Damien Harris to George Campbell we had a TON of decommits.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Like staying sober?||
Haden gets a lot of shit, but putting Sark on a leave of absence to deal with his problems -- if in fact the problems are alcoholism -- is the right move here.
EDIT: On second thought, the right move was to do this after he was pulled off stage at the Salute to Troy event. That was a big red flag, and it went by with no punishment. It was apparently known (as I'm now reading) that Sark's issues with alcohol were no secret even while he was at Washington. Haden's just created a bigger mess by allowing this to happen in the middle of the season. He should rightfully come under heavy fire for this.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Looks like that's what it is||
I kind of thought the same thing watching them, and it looks like that's what the problem is. Hope he gets the help he needs. Probably should have gone this route at the start of the season when he was pulled from stage for being too drunk.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Not quite a shakeup||
From the reports out there, it sounds like he was "in bad shape" this morning and was sent home by Pat Haden. And then was placed on a leave of absence.
Given his issues with alcohol earlier in the year, you can probably read between the lines at what's wrong here.
Here's hoping Sark gets the help he needs.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Allen||
Yeah, for Allen to go from not being able to put any weight at all on his leg to being good to go in a week is going to take some serious medical marvels.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Me too, but||
I'd learn towards picking Florida too since they've been playing like a more complete team and LSU seems to be a plus version of Georgia -- they go as their stud RB goes.
But the game is in Baton Rouge at night, and that's a tough place to play. So who the hell knows.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Fun fact||
Michigan State is 0-6 against the point spread this season.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Wouldn't be surprised if||
Wouldn't be surprised if Michigan opens up double digit favorites. Line will have to be real high to get money to come in on Michigan State.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Call was borderline, but||
Call was borderline, but bullshit given the reversal on the hit to Rudock when he slid. Plus the no call on the hit out of bounds. If you're going to let stuff slide, let it slide both ways.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||In yo' pussy....if ya got one. #YoMammy||
In yo' pussy....if ya got one. #YoMammy
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Yes. It's up to you what to||
Yes. It's up to you what to pay your janitor. No one is forcing you to pay him $3M, you pay him that because that's what you felt was a fair thing to pay him. What the rest of the janitorial community or your peers think is irrelevant.
|7 weeks 15 hours ago||Because they are good and we||
Because they are good and we should focus on beating them instead of holding stuff for MSU?
|7 weeks 20 hours ago||Not gonna lie||
Not gonna lie, had no idea doing something like that would get you three felonies. Be careful and get consent when making your secret sex tapes kids.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||5th year senior||
I just don't buy the road game or bad weather excuses for Rudock. He's a 5th year senior QB. If you haven't figured out a way to deal with the weather or road games by now, it will never, ever happen.
Sometimes a duck is just a duck.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Don't think you understand||
Don't think you understand...blueday is going to buy up all of the tickets on the market. He really means that no Sparty will sit in his seats.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||I'm sure both Meyer and||
I'm sure both Meyer and Dantonio have spent a couple of long evenings looking out their windows pining for their long lost coordinators.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Over/under||
Not a betting guy, but I'm really curious what the over/under for that game is. I mean if it was around 32, I'm not sure which way I would swing.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||No||
Two other pretty intriguing games in Alabama v Texas A&M and LSU v Florida. Both will likely be top 15'ish games.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Alabama v A&M||
That could wind up being a top 10 matchup, and could be an ESPN or ABC game if CBS picks the LSU Florida game.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Florida v LSU||
That Florida v LSU game didn't look like much a week or two ago, but now that could be a hell of a matchup. Especially if it winds up being a night game at Death Valley.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Probably picked weeks ago||
Was likely picked weeks ago when no one in their right mind thought NW-Michigan would be a game of national importance.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||No. Something "Baylor and TCU||
No. Something "Baylor and TCU best teams in the country?" Would've been better. Your title just named two teams.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not totally sold on||
I'm not totally sold on Baylor or TCU either. Neither team plays a lick of defense and also hasn't played anyone that plays defense. Top 5, I'll buy. But not 1-2.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||3rd game vs. 5th game||
That happened in Keenum's 3rd game of the season, which is under the 30% threshold you need for a medical redshirt. This is Mario's 5th game of the season. He's SOL on a medical unfortunately.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It was announced before the||
It was announced before the game it was a coach's decision and Harbaugh would provide an update after the game. So technically, everyone is right here.
Except the guy being a dick about it.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Maybe Stribling phased out of||
Maybe Stribling phased out of this dimension again and missed the bus.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Hope so. If an extra week of||
Hope so. If an extra week of rest gets him back close to 100% for NW and MSU then I guess it's cool.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah that one is much worse||
Yeah that one is much worse to me. Hope it's a one game deal. Need all the CB depth we can get for the next two games.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Silver lining!||
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Thanks. I was wondering 22||
Thanks. I was wondering 22 out of what? For more context, ESPN's QBR has him at #64
|8 weeks 2 hours ago||Not a bad storm?||
Sandy was the second costliest storm in US history, and the largest Atlantic hurricane on record.
It was kind of a big deal.
|8 weeks 2 hours ago||Overreact much?||
Dude, it'll be a cat 1-2 hurricane by the time it makes landfall -- if it makes landfall at all. That's not something you evacuate the city for. Maybe some select places along the coast or rivers, but everyone else just hunkers down for a few hours and then goes about their day.
And 10's of thousands? Its Maryland football. Their stadium holds 50k people. It doesn't take that many personnel to oversee an influx of people for 5-6 hours.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Yeah I don't get it||
I don't get all the hysteria over this when the latest models are showing its still well off the coast on Saturday night, and not even to the Carolinas by Sunday morning.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Kiffin||
I wouldn't worry about that. Kiffin will probably try to sleep with Gary's entire extended family on the visit.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||My unofficial scouting report||
My unofficial scouting report would be rangy and speedy as fuck.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||He's planning an OV for the||
He's planning an OV for the Iron Bowl, if Auburn is still terrible that could turn into an ugly atmosphere.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Or...||
Or maybe the SEC is once again the deepest conference this year. Just a thought. Would be real tough to argue Ole Miss, LSU, and Georgia haven't looked like top 10 teams. Or even top 5 teams. Throw in teams like Texas A&M and Alabama and that's better than any other conference's slate.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||ESPN FPI||
ESPN's FPI has them at No. 21, one spot below Michigan State. FPI also has Michigan as favorites in every game (even MSU) except the Ohio State game. Still just 34.7% in that one.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Tough to break in at 15||
Tough to break in to the poll around 15 without beating a top 10'ish team in the process. Wouldn't be surprised to see Michigan at around 22 or 23 though.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I have no idea who is good||
I have no idea who is good this season. So many iffy games from top teams. You could make a good claim for just about anyone in the top 15 right now to be in the playoff.
Like the top four is Ohio St, Mich St, TCU, Ole Miss. Would you rather put a bet on any of those four of those making it, or none of them making it?
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Provided AM wins, that Bama||
Gameday is at Clemson for Notre Dame next weekend. Doubt they would cover a ND on back-to-back weekends, so ND-US is out. That Bama Texas A&M game could be a top 10'ish matchup. But it'll likely be the CBS game so maybe they skip that. And they also already did a Bama game this season.
Florida-LSU could be a good one too. And it could be an ESPN game.
Tough to top MSU-Michigan though provided we get past NW and Maryland.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Always important to remember||
Always important to remember BYU was two Hail Marys from being 0-3. They are somewhere between Utah and Oregon St.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Except the part where Clark||
Except the part where Clark committed to Michigan while Hoke was here.
|9 weeks 18 hours ago||No||
Being in a new offense and playing with new players has nothing to do with missing wide open dudes.
And its not THAT new anymore. Its been two months already. In another two months and change, it'll be over.
|9 weeks 18 hours ago||Ehh...he's good, but not great||
I mean, he's good. Plowing through tackles and being good at YAC is definitely a big plus and as we've seen from our other backs, not everyone can do that. *cough*TyIssac*coughcough* (Oops my cough just knocked Ty over).
Smith just doesn't have great vision, and that's what's stopping him from being great. He's merely a good RB, but not a great RB.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Its part of growing up||
Sometimes knowing something is a bad fit and then doing something about it is a good thing. The stick out mentality doesn't always work -- and can often be detrimental to both parties.
For instance, the last two jobs I've had I bailed on because it just wasn't a good fit. Same thing with past relationships before I met my wife. No amount of sticking it out was going to fix any of those situations. Part of growing up is knowing when things are shitty that its OK to check out of the situation and move on.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||We need playmakers on||
We need playmakers on offense.
We need tight ends on offense.
A playmaking tight end would be delightful. If he wants to come, bring him on in. Sounds like whatever happened at UCLA he's learned from.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||No one deserves that.||
No one deserves that.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I would say they HAD a||
I would say they HAD a dynamic offense. Haven't quiet been the same this year. Chad Morris may have been worth all that $$$$$
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Wind vs. Utah too||
Yeah, that's why I wasn't buying the "oh, it was windy vs. Utah" excuse on the misses downfield. 5th year QBs with a lot of snaps under their belt should have figured out a way to deal with the wind.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||I think Harbaugh is committed to the redshirt||
Makes me wonder if Harbaugh just doesn't really want to redshirt Shane. Because as you noted, Shane looked just fine doing all of those little short passes he did in the KSU game. But he has a much better (albeit INT prone) deep arm than Jake.
So if your starter is averaging 2 TOs a game, can only throw it short moderately well, and can't open up the offense at all with legit deep passes...why not try Shane unless you just really want to redshirt him?
Barring a season ending injury to Jake, I don't think we see Shane at all this year.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Hey!||
Hey, he had that one year where I think he finished season. Plus, the Utah medical community would never let him leave. He's keeping 2-3 offices fully staffed all on his own.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||FPi||
FPI also has Michigan and BYU back-to-back in the rankings at No. 37 and 38, which pretty much backs up the coin flip intuition.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Nov. 3rd||
First poll comes out November 3rd this year.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I'd take that bet||
Look at the schedules. Ohio State has Western, Indiana, Maryland, Penn State, and Rutgers before they release the first rankings (Nov. 3rd). That's a nice slate of cupcakes to work out any kinks against.
I think the only way Sparty leapfrogs them is if Michigan beats BYU and Northwestern to wind up a top 15'ish team going in to that MSU game, and then Sparty beats Michigan soundly at home.
I'd put my money on Ohio State figuring things out against a bunch of cupcakes.
And lol at Georgia being a clear No. 1.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Too many injuries||
TCU will lose at some point this season. They've had an insane amount of injures on defense. I think they are down like 6 starters on defense since the start of the year.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||A 6-1 power 5 team is definitely ranked that deep into the seaso||
A 6-1 power 5 team is definitely ranked that deep into the season. Last year a 6-1 team with its only loss to a good team was good enough to be ranked in the 10-20 range. Most of your 20-25 teams are two loss teams that deep into the season.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Absolutely||
Assuming a Big Ten championship game win too, we'd definitely be in. Utah is a good loss. They moved up to No. 18 in the latest AP Poll.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||You sure about that?||
While the LSU game is Ole Miss's toughest game left, they have a pretty stout run defense, a solid secondary, and Brandon Harris can't throw for shit. Yeah Fournette is awesome, but tough to have a one-sided offense when facing a good defense.
And LSU doesn't have a defense that's much better or worse than Alabama. Not sure if LSU can score the 30-40 its going to need to beat Ole Miss at home.
FWIW, ESPN's FPI metric (which had Ole Miss #1 and beating Alabama last week) has Ole Miss at 71.5% to beat LSU).
|9 weeks 3 days ago||He'll get those reporters||
He'll get those reporters whipped into shape too. No more bullshit fluff question from the Michigan press corps.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||If you want to be a fan, wear||
If you want to be a fan, wear the jersey. If you want to work as a member of the press, don't be the idiot wearing a jersey in the press box.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||It's the equivalent to||
It's the equivalent to wearing jeans and a sweatshirt to a black tie affair. If he wants a bunch of snide comments, dirty looks, and to nuke and sense of credibility as a potential future member of the press...then go for it.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Basketball recruiting is a||
Basketball recruiting is a much different beast than football recruiting.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Would rather see where they||
Would rather see where they rank on yards and points per possession. Those other stats can all be pretty misleading.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Biggest takeaway||
That's been my biggest take away from the first two games. I've gotten used to seeing an attempt to jam a round peg in a square hole, or poor execution, or just something go wrong either in-game or from game to game, and I've just accepted that's just going to be an ongoing problem.
But in the first two games, there's just been a ton of those types of things that have gotten fixed quickly, and if they happen again it seems like an abberation. Its been really refreshing.
In short, yeah its only been two games, but you can see the team progress and develop. That hasn't happened around here in a LONG time.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Don't forget they are part||
Don't forget they are part time pyschologists too.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||How?||
Since you seem to be an expert on the personal lives of everyone connected to the program, how exactly are their situations different? Please elighten us with your personal knowledge.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||You're just by very bright||
If you're going to call someone dumb, at least make sure you're using coherent sentences.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Amen||
Its one thing to say thanks but no thanks, but its entirely different to start questioning a college freshman's mental state. That's just shitty.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||So facts = condescension?||
So facts = condescension?
|10 weeks 3 days ago||19 and 11mo =/= 20||
He's not 20. He's almost 20. If you're going to be a stickler for details, at least be accurate. Especially if you're going to provide a link that says he's 19.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||"Chill"||
I think everyone is reading way too much into one innocuous quote. But more than that, y'all don't know shit about Clark's mental state, how he would respond to coaching, or what he is like as a person.
And considering we have a RB and a starting QB on our roster who are transfers, I think all of this judgement is a) shitty, and b) hypocritical.
But have your fun. Its cool to openly the question the mental health of a college freshman.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||Metro Detroit||
There are roughly 5.3M people in Metro Detroit, which is just about the same size as Connecticut. And the majority of people in Connecticut live on the coast and by NYC. Most of the state is just forest and large hills.
Oh, and bears.
|10 weeks 4 days ago||Don't think that's the case||
I don't think there's that much strategy in it. I think Harbaugh will play the best QB regardless of class, and if Shane isn't the #2, it may be in his best interest to transfer if he wants to play. And I doubt he's the only one in that situation. With so many QBs on the roster, its only a matter of time before they start transferring out.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||The best DL just seem to go||
The best DL just seem to go to the SEC. And you can't really blame them since there is a long and successful track record of developing and sending guys to the pros.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Well how about I judge you||
Well how about I judge you off some random internet posts too? I now I think you're a classless asshole. That fair?
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Dick move there, brother.||
Dick move there, brother.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Why? Little harsh to judge a||
Why? Little harsh to judge a kid off of two tweets.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||RS Seniors are now listed as "5th"||
Before Michigan deleted the bio, under experience he was listed as a junior. Under Rudock's bio, he is listed as "5th". So I'm guessing the class designation goes fresh, soph, junior, senior, 5th now.
Which is dumb and confusing.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Eight would be great||
I think we have loses to MSU, Minn, and Ohio State left on the schedule. BYU, at Maryland, and Northwestern could be tricky, and maybe at Penn State but all should be winnable. I used to think Penn State would be a close win or a loss, but I now think they turn into a dumpster fire by the end of the year and that could be an easy win.
Poor Hackenberg. Should have transferred before they broke him.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Just bad in general||
You don't go from playing time and on the depth chart to on the streets in a matter of days unless you've done something bad enough that does not warrant a second chance or suspension. Generally those things put the player and university in a bad light.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Agreed||
You can only hit so many homeruns with freshman and sophomore OL starters. Hopefully this doesn't hurt too bad next season. Fortunately (depending on how you look at it) he was a junior and only had one year left.
EDIT: Or maybe he was a RS Soph? Some articles have him listed as a RS Soph. But he's listed as a junior on Michigan and ESPN's site. Blame Hoke?
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Timing||
Considering he played on Thursday, and one Thursday later its kick rocks time, yeah its probably bad.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||That's your reason why right there||
"Wait until he gets a guy like Cam Newton" -- this is why you don't see more of it in the NFL. In the NFL, you're a lot more reliant on luck in getting the right QB for your system. You have to hope you can win a free agency battle or that the right QB falls to you in the draft (and that you can afford to draft a QB instead of filling other holes on the roster). And that's only if you and your GM are on the same page (or are the same person in Philly's case). In college, you can go out and target QBs and stockpile them while you develop them. You don't have that same level of luxury in the NFL.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Might be covered by midseason||
According to the Detroit News story on them, Butt already has 8 stickers. And that's not the most on the team after 1 game. Having 100 stickers on a helmet by the end of the season is going to look a little ridiculous.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Space Emperor||
That was the spirit of Zoltan the Space Emperor entering his body.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||It says so much about our||
It says so much about our punting and special teams the last few years that this was my legit favorite play of the game.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Parking was my first thought too||
Parking was my first thought too. You can't just pick some random field or parking lot to park your house. Unless he or his parent bought a chunk of land too, he's going to have problems.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||The first one was a solid 5||
The first one was a solid 5 yards over his head and long. Thats iffy in the same way my abs are kinda toned.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Agreed||
Rough, rough game to open the season with and work out the kinks on the fly. Second half adjustments looked good, so hopefully they figure things out over the next couple of weeks.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Not just any missed pass though||
They weren't just simple missed passes though. There were three plays where the WR was a good 2-5yds open with no one in front of him and Rudock missed by a good 5 yards on the pass. If he hits on any of those its a TD and a much, much different game. So on that part, yeah missing out on three easy TDs is a bigger deal to me than a simple drive ender. The pick 6 was just bad. No debate on that one.
The worst part to me is going forward. Utah laid out a pretty good plan for shutting down the offense. Load the box and dare Michigan to throw deep. For an offense that didn't show an ability to run, that's bad news.
Although I will say, I'm not all gloom and doom here. The gameplan was good, the play calls were good, the team just didn't execute them. And it felt like a different kind of non execution than in Hoke's system. You could see what they were trying to do, and that they have the makings of a good offense, its just not there yet. So I'm equal parts optimistic they can figure it out, and equal parts "well shit, we just don't have the pieces this year."
|11 weeks 5 days ago||KSU||
Morris' Kansas St game wasn't a whole lot different than Rudock's game against Utah. Lots and lots of short passes. And yeah, he makes some bad decisions from time to time, but he has shown an ability to throw deep. And in the end, if Rudock can't throw deep, that may be more beneficial to the offense.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Picks don't worry me that much||
I'm far less worried about the picks than I am about missing wide open WRs deep for TDs. Those killed us way more than the INTs. If he and the offense can't hit those passes, they are screwed. The OL and RBs will see 8-9 guys in the box and wish us luck on the deep ball.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Widely overthrew 3 sure fire||
Widely overthrew 3 sure fire TDs would have been a touch more accurate. And it was windy but you've got to be able to hit on those if the running game is ever going to get going. Otherwise teams will pack the box and wish us luck.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Missed a few deep throws is a||
Missed a few deep throws is a bit of an understatement
|11 weeks 6 days ago||The offense is molten ass on||
The offense is molten ass on top of a sundae of shit.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||1997 Notre Dame||
My first game was really the 1997 Colorado game, but the one I remember most as being my first game was the 1997 Notre Dame game. Sat near the top of the stadium behind a group of fans drinking Goldschlager all game. One of the guys kept harassing a blonde Notre Dame fan a couple of rows ahead of him calling him "Goldilocks" amongst many other insults. Was funny as hell.
Same guy -- after several in-game swigs from the Goldschlager -- starting yelling "WAIT TILL THE FOURTH QUARTER! THE FOURTH QUARTER IS MINE BABY!!!" shortly after halftime. They were fun drunks, so everyone around kept waiting to see what happened in the fourth quarter.
Well, as the seconds of the third quarter started ticking down, he just started going WOOOO FOURTH QUARTER!! WOOO!!!! And then, once it was officially the 4th quarter, dude just dropped his pants, completely bare assed and yelled FOURTH QUARTER BABY!!!
Security did not like this, and started to head for the guy, but he pulled up his pants, took off into the crowd, and pulled on a flannel shirt (it was the 90's...grunge baby) he got from some random fan. Now, in a new disguise, he kept weaving through the crowd and different sections, and after 5-10min of this, security gave up looking, he found his way back to his friends, and received a hero's welcome.
After all, you don't mess with Captain Goldschlager in the fourth quarter. And I'd like to think part of the national title that season belongs to him.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||I mean, I love it, but it||
I mean, I love it, but it really is kind of insane how much national attention he is getting.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe the Chargers offensive||
Maybe the Chargers offensive linemen should spend less time making shit up and spend more time blocking for their QB. They got completely owned on that play.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I've watched that video||
I've watched that video multiple times and have no idea where people are getting the attack part from. All I see is Rivers grabbing Frank's jersey and not letting him get off him.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||As long as one of the looks||
As long as one of the looks is competence, I'll be happy.
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Real recognize real||
Real recognize real
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Magnus? Is that you?||
Magnus? Is that you?
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly||
Coming back to this thread late, but yes, that was my point. I was focusing more on the quote about Carr in the ESPN exerpt (he supported hiring Hoke instead of Harbaugh) and how that's been indicitive of him generally not helping the department out at all after his coaching career.
Also, people may be looking back on Carr's coaching career with rosy glasses. He was a great coach early on his time, but by the end, he was entering Mack Brown territory where people were wondering how much longer he was going to coach and how do you delicately part ways with a former great coach. To me, after the 1997 season he consistently underachived while he was at Michigan.
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Goddammit Hoke||
|13 weeks 2 days ago||Brandon and Carr||
For as much as we shit on Dave Brandon for all the program's ails, Lloyd Carr deserves a huge share of that too. His recruiting classes at the end of his tenure were garbage, his coaching tree was inept, he nuked Rich Rod's time here which set the program back, and according to this excerpt he supported Hoke over Harbaugh back in 2011. Ass. Hole.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||He ain't come here to play||
He ain't come here to play school
|13 weeks 4 days ago||He's already an FSU silent||
He's already an FSU silent commit. Not much suspense here unless we've hired some fantastic bagmen recently.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Kudos to the medical staff||
Man, kudos to the medical staff for remaining the only adults in the room during that entire ordeal. Impressive amount of professionalism on their part to stick to their guns and beliefs despite the AD shitting all over them.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||He tweeted out a picture||
He tweeted out a picture announcing his impending commitment that had a Michigan logo amongst a few others.
|13 weeks 6 days ago||Solid look||
That's a solid looking uniform. I just don't get those backgrounds that Adidas has been using on these uniform previews. Its straight visual rape, and no matter how good the uniform looks, its really hard to get past the awfulness of these backgrounds.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||For better or worse the NFL||
For better or worse the NFL is king when it comes to news. Guarantee this is news in every market and on all the national news shows tomorrow night.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Cool opinion, bro. Thanks for||
Cool opinion, bro. Thanks for sharing.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Big Ten isn't strong enough as a whole||
Technically, they could, but I really doubt it. The Big Ten isn't strong enough as a whole to prop up an 11-1 MSU team into the playoff. In that scenario, MSU's only quality win would be over Oregon, and that's not a strong enough resume to make the committee exclude champs from two other conferences.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Ohio State is going to be really good||
Not exactly breaking news, but Ohio State is going to be really good. Just an insanely deep and talented team. They may approach 2001 Miami levels.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Everyday is Halloween, and I'm stuck inside||
Plus, seeing all of the other updates and news on teams across college football has me jonesing even more for info.
Its like everyday is Halloween, the neighborhood kids are getting fat on candy, and your mom keeps telling you its October 29th.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Gives you a good sense||
This gives you a good sense of the level of command and respect of the people around them between Harbaugh and Hoke too. With Hoke, we still got tons of leaks and almost daily recaps from people on what was happening at practice. With Harbaugh, they've been underground for 10 days or so, and all that has leaked is some major injury news which is damn near impossible to keep under wraps.
As a fan that is craving any sort of info, its frustrating, but damn impressive. Especially in this day and age of social media.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Both?||
I would like both. Although at this point I'd take a daily instagram practice recap in the form of Harbaugh giving a thumbs up, or a thumbs down.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Not too surprising||
All they really did was decide they didn't have jurisdiction over the case, which when you look at the structure of the NCAA and all of the affiliate schools, isn't too surprising.
They didn't rule on whether or not student athletes are employees, they just declined to rule on anything at all.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||Most accurate title though||
Most accurate title though
|14 weeks 3 days ago||Well that's a new twist on a||
Well that's a new twist on a Jack and Coke.
|14 weeks 3 days ago||I wouldn't be so worried||
I wouldn't be so worried about the QB depth chart as I would be about the general offensive depth chart in general. Especially the OL. Florida has a looooong way to go in their rebuilding.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||Eww||
These look like ass to me. Not everything retro is good.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||All nude. Tastefully done.||
All nude. Tastefully done.
|15 weeks 1 day ago||Admit it, if Nike started||
Admit it, if Nike started adding block M's to the uniform you'd be hard as steel.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||We have a handful of guys||
We have a handful of guys that COULD BE stars but pretty much none who are stars. Like it's tough to call Peppers a star considering he's hardly played in college.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||I've always wondered what||
I've always wondered what would happen where someone like KK Productions made an awesome video with no rights to any of the video or music they used and someone like BTN or ESPN who did have the rights to the video just took it and posted it or played in on air.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Dude...||
Dude, you are 100% missing the point. I never said Clark wasn't good. I never said Mattison wasn't good. I explained to the guy who didn't understand why there was no fumble REASONS WHY THERE WAS NO FUMBLE. Clearly Clark is good enough to be drafted despite his laundry list of off-field issues. And clearly Mattison is a good coach.
But as a whole? The last staff was garbage. Well established hot garbage. And not every player drafted is good at everything. Lots of guys are drafted (especially in later rounds) simply because they are raw talent. Also, do you know how many fumbles Clark forced in his 4 year career? One. One whole fumble.
So do you want to keep going? Or are you going to admit that maybe Clark wasn't the greatest at forcing fumbles, maybe the last staff as a whole wasn't great at preaching/teaching ways to force fumbles, and maybe in the GIF above there's a couple of reasons why there was no forced fumble.
Or maybe you just want to keep putting words in my mouth or nitpicking because I misspelled something. Either way, I don't care. I've made my case, backed it up with plenty of stats, and I have a flight to catch.
In the words of Les Miles, have a great day.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||You guys are all missing the point||
I was never the one that criticized the lack of the fumble. Its a beautiful hit. No one is disputing that. All I was doing is replying to the guy who was amazed there was no fumble. I pointed out Clark didn't try and strip the ball, and he didn't put his helmet on the ball. Both of which are two very good reasons there was no fumble. They don't happen magically.
I also pointed out that you could probably trace that back to the coaching staff (like you can with oh so many of Michigan's problems). And if you look at the forced fumbles stats over the last couple of years, Michigan has been one of the worst in the country at it.
2011 -- 16 forced fumbles (21st in the FBS)
2012 -- 12 FF (61st)
2013 -- 8 (102nd)
2014 -- 5 (122nd!!)
We've gotten progressively worse at it. And if you are teaching and emphasizing ways to force fumbles, you're probably not going to keep getting worse at it. And its not like the defense was lacking in opportunities.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Which also kind of goes back||
Which also goes back to my original point.
But you know, neg away everyone. Because I've clearly hit a nerve striking at the great contribution Frank Clark and the previous coaching staff added to this program.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||No||
|15 weeks 4 days ago||Oh cool, so was mine.||
Oh cool, so was mine.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Also||
Also, you try and call me out for taking this one instance and assuming things about the player or the coaching, and then turn around and assume I'm "one of those people who thinks any play call that doens't result in a touchdown is a bad play call" based off of one incident.
So good job on being a hypocrite.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||You're right||
You're right Magnus. I had forgotten we had excellent coaching the last few years that hammered home good fundamentals. One internet point for you.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Except, you know, he doesn't||
Except, you know, he doesn't put his helmet on the ball.
Which is one of the reasons why there is no fumble.
|15 weeks 5 days ago||Because Clark went for the||
Because Clark went for the kill shot instead of striping the ball when he had a clean shot at it. More bad coaching on display! Yay!