to play football, not to play trumpet
|1 day 10 hours ago||Then if that's the case, the||
Then if that's the case, the fan base should be content with being a fringe top 25 team and quit freaking out when top programs that are OK with "doing what it takes" curb stomp them.
And just to be clear, our new AD comes from a school known for "doing what it takes" to win in basketball. So like I said, we're at a crossroads.
|1 day 11 hours ago||True||
This is true, and that's why I through the "roughly" in there. Sure, they are much better than the hot garbage of Ellerbe, or lukewarm garbage of Amaker, but they are currently playing somewhere between lukewarm garbage and mid tier Big Ten program. Which I don't think anyone is happy with.
Which goes to my last point. Michigan bball -- much like Michigan football -- needs to decide what it wants to be. The football program clearly views itself as a perennial top 10 program and went out and made the changes to get back to that point.
I have no idea what the basketball program wants to be or how they view themselves. None at all. Hackett is smart and likely knows what it really takes ($$$$) to win in basketball. Manuel is coming from UConn and definitely knows what it takes. So as those two transition in/out it'll be interesting to see what happens with the basketball program.
Michigan fans have been a little squeamish at some of the things Harbaugh is having to do to compete for real in CFB. To really compete in CBB, it'll have to get a whole lot more shady. Just need to decide if that's worth it.
|1 day 12 hours ago||What they were for 20 years||
What they were for 20 years is roughly what they are now and poised to be in the future.
|3 days 19 hours ago||No, San Diego is right. You||
No, San Diego is right. You can sign a max of 25 per class. That can only go up through greyshirts and back dating early enrollees. So as long as the back dating 7 of the 29 commits from this crop number is accurate, that means we have 22 commits assigned to the 2016 class. Back dating 3 2017 EE commits gets that back to 25 for 2016 and let's you sign 3 additional for 2017.
|6 days 8 hours ago||Because we are a fickle fan||
Because we are a fickle fan base with many options for our coverage.
|6 days 10 hours ago||Thanks!!||
Thank you for your concern. I will print out your advice and carry it in my wallet and will cherish it always.
I may even laminate it.
|6 days 12 hours ago||It's nice that you||
It's nice that you acknowledge that you're a crazy person though. The first step is acceptance.
|6 days 12 hours ago||Don't understand||
I don't even understand how or why this is bullshit. Its bullshit that he's down to two teams? That's neither good news or bad news, and it sure as hell isn't bullshit.
|6 days 12 hours ago||Wouldn't surprise me if WD||
Wouldn't surprise me if WD had 20 different accounts. I mean really, who the hell is voting up his first comment 30 times?
|6 days 13 hours ago||I mean honestly, how much||
I mean honestly, how much more head-up-your-own-ass do you have to be to say "I've seen nothing concrete" when there is a link to a goddamn article with concrete quotes from his mom who lays out the process they used to get down to two??
|6 days 13 hours ago||I'd feel better if it was anyone but Clemson||
Since he just went to Clemson and according to feedback from the family that visit went much better than they thought it would, I'd feel a lot better if the two schools were Michigan and anyone but Clemson.
|6 days 13 hours ago||How about read the article?||
How about you read the article, dummy? Tom talked to Gary's mom who said they were down to two. Doesn't get much more concrete than that.
|6 days 15 hours ago||Pretty sure he is...||
Pretty sure he is just releasing some recruiting videos. He mentioned that was coming the week of signing day at some point in the last week or two.
Scale back (or up) your excitement accordingly.
|1 week 3 days ago||In the words of Carr, if||
In the words of Carr, if Michigan can land a Boss and a McDoom in that class, that would be tremendous.
|1 week 4 days ago||True. Just saying don't||
True. Just saying don't underestimate Clemson. Just as shady as Ole Miss, Auburn, or anyone else.
|1 week 5 days ago||Be wary the Clemson bagman.||
Be wary the Clemson bagman. Remember Artavis Scott's sudden change of heart?
|1 week 5 days ago||True||
True. He's probably getting more than Shaq. Damn inflation.
|1 week 5 days ago||Ben Simmons||
But, Ben Simmons was a totally legit recruitment, right?
|1 week 5 days ago||Was thinking Central Uganda||
Was thinking Central Uganda Northern Time...
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You and me both, man.||
You and me both, man.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah but Pizza House will||
Yeah but Pizza House will deliver anything you want -- pizza or otherwise -- until like 3am or so.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||We can have nice things again?||
So does this mean we can have nice things again?
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Isn't that Wolverine Devotee?||
Isn't that Wolverine Devotee?
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Turns out there's more than||
Turns out there's more than one team in college football.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Why uh oh?||
Why uh oh?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I'd say to most young||
I'd say to most young athletes, hot women (Ole Miss) would trump academics 9 times out of 10. Especially when you consider the academics of Stanford put it out of reach for most people let alone most athletes.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Not before 2010 though.||
Not before 2010 though. Before that, they were very Ole Miss like. Traditionally terrible with a fluky 9 win or even more fluky 10 win season once a decade.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I implore you to take a trip||
I implore you to take a trip to Ole Miss and rethink that thought.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||You acted like an asshole by||
You acted like an asshole by telling someone to fuck off for questioning your response/tact and then hid that behavior under the umbrella of things that happened to loved ones. Which is also an asshole thing to do.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Just because you've had loved||
Just because you've had loved ones killed by cancer doesn't mean you're not an asshole.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He wouldn't be a candidate||
He wouldn't be a candidate if he wasn't interested. And if he's already watching CFB on Saturdays, its not that much of an additional time commitment.
People get bored when they're retired. Something like this could be a fun thing for him to do.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||They all take it pretty serious||
The committee members all take it pretty serious. They are each assigned a region and set of teams to focus on, and they become the "expert" for those teams. So say Carr is selected to be part of the committee. He'd get assigned like the Big 12 or something like that. So it would be his job to watch as many Big 12 games as he could and be knowledgeable on those teams. You don't have to watch every single Top 25 game.
So if Carr still wanted to play a role in CFB, and was watching games anyways, and didn't mind giving up 6 or so weekends a year to go to the committee meeting in Texas, its not that much extra commitment.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Its for any connection||
I can't remember the committee member, but there was one who had multiple ties to multiple schools. So he had to leave the room for multiple schools when they came up. They take that shit pretty serious.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||With the quickness this post||
With the quickness this post went up, its almost like it had been written for 2-3 months.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Jan 9th||
Its Jan 9th in Tampa next season. Peach and Fiesta are the semifinal sites.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Fournette is back too. As well as Baker Mayfield.||
Fournette is back too. As well as Baker Mayfield.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Would be nice, but there's no||
Would be nice, but there's no fucking way. With Watson and Fournette and McCaffrey out there, the impact he'd have to make as a two-way player would be insane. Not to mention, you still have Adoree Jackson out there that does the same thing as Peppers, but has an additional year of experience doing it.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||He said weren't completed, which is correct.||
He said weren't completed, which is correct.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Fumble recovery isn't the||
Fumble recovery isn't the issue here though. It's causing them. And Michigan has been one of the worst in the country the last 5 years or so at causing fumbles. That's not luck, that's coaches not making it a point of emphasis and teaching it. Which given the quality of the defenses we've had the last few years makes it really odd.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Michigan has been one of the||
Michigan has been one of the worst fumble forcing teams in the FBS for the last five years or so. Like bottom of the barrel bad.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I think it's the opposite and||
I think it's the opposite and is more about the defensive team trying to force a fumble. If it was about ball security, everyone would be faulty even across divisions since they all play the same teams with the same ball security.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Was talking about this the||
Was talking about this the other day. Whenever Saban decides to end his time at Bama, that's one of the last jobs I'd want as a college head coach. Those would be some monterous shoes to fill, and the fans there start getting twitchy if you don't win a title for 2-3 years.
As for Herman, I think he'll wind up at Texas or Texas A&M after the season. And if you can get it rolling there, no need to go to Alabama. It will be interesting to see which school decides to pull the plug on their $5M/yr coach first and make a run at Herman.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That's what I wonder too.||
That's what I wonder too. When Saban and Smart ask you to help them fine tune their CFB Death Star, what do you get in exchange? And you have to know that if what Alabama does works everyone else is going to wind up trying to copy it. Which will only hurt your own efforts.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Believe it or not, that show||
Believe it or not, that show makes a shit ton of money. Big ratings in a tough window.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||I'd take Clark||
I'd take Clark over a true freshman every single time. True freshman corners are asking for trouble.
|5 weeks 12 hours ago||Were you at the practices||
Were you at the practices watching him play all week? Do you personally know what his work ethic is from being around him everyday?
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||They are a 10-win team||
At this point, Michigan State is a 10-win team pretty much every year until further notice. You'd think after hitting 10 wins in 5 of the last 6 seasons, people would understand this.
Sure, they lose Cook and some other pieces, but its been that way the last several years. Every year its always "oh, they lose too much from the defense" or "they've lost a stud RB" or "they've lost Narduzzi" or whatever. The system is in place, and they just reload and replace and wins 10 games again. They're not going anywhere.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||And those were two I remember||
And those were two I remember watching in person and thinking that they were going to be really good -- especially Elliott. Dude killed it at The Opening and made me check my roster a couple of times in a "who the hell is this guy" sort of way. My only hesitation with Henry was that he was going to be too big to play RB (he legit looks like a good sized linebacker in person). Certainly had the quickness and speed though.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||I'll never understand Green's rating||
Derrick Green's rating is why I'll always take Rivals and Scout's RB ratings with a giant grain of salt. Watching him play in person and seeing his film, he never looked like an elite back, let alone the top back in the country. He was always clearly just a giant high school RB that plowed over smaller defenders.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Depends on how much notice he had||
As someone who works in TV and deals with these situations a lot, these guys don't always have a ton of time to prep for their segments. Some times its an hour or so, sometimes its like 5 min.
In a situation like this, they probably had Trevor booked for a CFB segment, and depending on how much the producer had their shit together he may have been given a lot of notice, or he may have been given notice like 30min or less beforehand. And yeah, its his job, but its tough to be up to date on the depth charts for every newsworthy team in CFB.
And Trevor is usually pretty well prepared and researched...so I'm guessing he wasn't given much notice on the topics.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah this is the real answer||
Yeah this is the real answer to the problem. It could also be the producer's fault for giving him short notice on the topics. Which probably aligns with the glanced at a depth chart reasoning above.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||They also provide money and gifts, so there's that too.||
They also provide money and gifts, so there's that too.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||I see Kingsbury is going for||
I see Kingsbury is going for his graduate degree in "go fuck yourself" at the Kevin Sumlin school of QB management.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||There's a big difference||
There's a big difference between credibility and awareness. Journalistically, Al Jazeera has a bunch of credibility. They just don't have much awareness.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Would be a huge improvement||
Especially if it comes with the ability to move top rated comments to the top, or to collaspe entire threads. Some of these 100+ comment posts are damn near impossible to read or figure out who is replying to who.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Butt||
Would suck for any of them, but would really suck for Butt.
(lol, suck for Butt)
|6 weeks 5 days ago||This is actually pretty||
This is actually pretty depressing when you read the article. They bought the land in 2012 and built the house and moved in sometime in 2013, so this was clearly a dream home. And then they had to sell it only a year and change after moving in.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Makes sense in a way. The||
Makes sense in a way. The family famous for inventing the assembly line have created a non-stop stream of shitty football teams.
|7 weeks 13 hours ago||They will only give up 88 yards per game.||
They will only give up 88 yards per game.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||If this leads to Aranda||
If this leads to us poaching Aranda from Wisconsin, I'm cool with that.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||At the very least||
At the very least, I think we can all agree that he's not worth $5M a year. Dude is the second highest paid coach in the SEC behind Saban. That's bananas.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||LSU?||
I could see someplace like LSU as well. I don't think he goes to Texas. Charlie Strong has worked hard to rid his program of headcases. Not sure he wants to invite the Kyler Murrary circus to town at a time his job is on the line.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Herman||
Lots of people assumed Herman was waiting out the Texas job. Personally, I think he's got a much better shot at getting the A&M job first. The Aggies are paying Sumlin a lot of money ($5M/per) to go 7-5 and have a completely disfunctional offense.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||I'll pass on Kyler Murrary||
Man I'll pass on Kyler Murrary. While he may be OK, you unfortunately get his dad as part of the package. And his dad is apparently the one behind a lot of the in-season drama between Kyler and Kyle.
He'll wind up at some place like Texas Tech or LSU. I doubt Charlie Strong wants to take that mess of problems on to his sinking ship.
|8 weeks 10 hours ago||That's probably what happened||
That's probably what happened to Robert Nkemdiche.
|8 weeks 11 hours ago||He's an LB coach too, isn't he?||
He's an LB coach too, isn't he?
|8 weeks 11 hours ago||Hahaha...well done. Funny as||
Hahaha...well done. Funny as hell. I suppose this means Harbaugh = Sandler and he is going to tear down the whole building that got Jabrill's arm.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Probably. It's a season long||
Probably. It's a season long award. The final game of the season really shouldn't impact your decision too much if you've been paying attention.
|8 weeks 20 hours ago||Oh c'mon||
Not to rehash this debte for the millionth time, but Dave Brandon had very little impact on Brady's performance as a coach. He didn't force his hand when it came to picking position coaches, he didn't tell him how to allocate his coaching time during the week, he didn't tell him how to run his practices, he didn't dictate how to evaluate recruits, and on, and on, and on.
Dave Brandon was a shitty AD.
Brady Hoke was a mediocre head coach. He won less than half of his games before he got to Michigan and outside of the 11-2 season, won half of his games at Michigan.
Brandon being shitty at his job and Hoke being completely average at his are not connected.
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||Your last point kind of||
Your last point kind of drives the point home though. The SEC doesn't have a bunch of good passing offenses. And Bama is one of those teams. So all of those defensive stats are teams that are good against the run, teams key on Henry, and Henry did what he pleased against them anyways.
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||Picking up 20-30 yards 4-5||
Picking up 20-30 yards 4-5 times a game is no where close to having to do that rushing or receiving.
|8 weeks 22 hours ago||He wasn't snubbed he was a||
He wasn't snubbed he was a very, very distant 5th in the voting. When you saw the votes it was clear why there were only three invited to NYC. All of this "but they should invite 5-10 guys" stuff is participation trophy level bullshit. Let's just give all the finalists a mini Heisman so no one's feelings get hurt.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Yup. Just about every new||
Yup. Just about every new coach this hiring cycle has been a good OC or DC or an established head coach that was also some sort of offensive or defensive guru.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Me too. I just think his next||
Me too. I just think his next job is a DL coach, and not a head coach.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not sure what his level||
I'm not sure what his level is - or if he has one as a head coach anymore. Coaches at the lower levels aren't the CEO type that Brady is. They typically offer something on the defensive or offensive side of the ball in terms of vision or expertise and Brady offers neither of those. Plus, his time at Michigan also showed he has questionable taste when it comes to picking assistants. So he's not even that good of a CEO type coach.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||His point was that Butt||
His point was that Butt wouldn't have announced he was coming back if he didn't feel good about who was going to be throwing him the ball next season.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||They might lose Kyler Murrary||
They might lose Kyler Murrary too. He's also supposedly thinking of transferring. Or hell, maybe he'll just focus on baseball. Turns out that pays pretty well too.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Really?||
This has very little or nothing at all to do with wanting to compete, and everything to do with Texas A&M's offense being a tire fire. Allen is a future NFL talent with two years of eligibility left. He could either roll the dice that Sumlin will get his shit together next season and field some sort of competent offense (not likely), or...he could transfer, sit out a year, and then have two years left to get back on track for the NFL.
I mean, all you have to do is look at Christian Hackenberg and see what living in a terrible offense can do for your NFL futures. (Or remember what broken offenses and bad coaching did to Devin Gardner)
|8 weeks 3 days ago||A&M is a disaster||
Texas A&M is a disaster, and Sumlin's seat has to be scorching hot. You don't pay a coach $5M a year to lose to Top 25 teams and go 9-4 or 8-5. I think if he doesn't win 10 games next season, he's done. Aggies will/should make a run at Herman.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Eat a bucket of||
Eat a bucket of dicks...bucket of dicks eater.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I like that no one even brings up Shane Morris anymore.||
I like that no one even brings up Shane Morris anymore.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||It's far easier to get a||
It's far easier to get a transfer QB than a transfer LB. Grad transfer LBs are rare as hell.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Not much of a leverage play if you don't even meet with them.||
Not much of a leverage play if you don't even meet with them.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I believe the number for||
I believe the number for bullshit is 1-800-ITS-POOP
But, its $5.99/min so watch out for that on your bill when you call them.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Man, you can CGI that window||
Man, you can CGI that window and photoshop the rest. And the cop would probably be an MSU grad. Not good enough!
|8 weeks 3 days ago||People always ask for this,||
People always ask for this, but it's the Internet...what kind of a verifiable proof are you looking for?
|8 weeks 4 days ago||1000 miles? Hoping that's a||
1000 miles? Hoping that's a typo since that encompasses close to everything west of the Mississippi. But even if you meant one major program within 100 miles, that's the case for a lot of schools.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||God bless sundresses||
God bless sundresses
|8 weeks 4 days ago||They've lowered their||
They've lowered their standards in the last few years, but Ga Tech was like a Stanford type of school when it came to academics. So there's that and there's the fact they run an unconventional offense. Plus they are an ACC school deep in SEC country.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||They are from the National||
They are from the National Federation of High School Sports. And they are the most recent numbers (class of 2015).
|8 weeks 4 days ago||True, Ga Tech is better than||
True, Ga Tech is better than say Cincinnati, Toledo, or Miami OH, but it's not in the same class as what you have in Florida, Texas, or California.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Really?||
Not sure if you're sarcastic here or not, but I'll bite...how exactly is Ohio State better than Georgia? Florida and Georgia produce far more FBS signees than any other state. Roughly 1 out of every 120 kids that play HSFB in those states sign with an FBS school. In Ohio, its 1 out of 300 or so.
And unlinke Florida where you have multiple high level in-state schools, Georgia just has Georgia Tech -- which doesn't really count. So they have all that talent to themselves.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Tough to top Georgia||
Its really tough to top Georgia in categories they used: talent base, athletic budget, facilities, NFL pipeline, and just in general intangibles -- tradition, gameday experience, academics.
I mean, hell, this is half the reason Richt is out of a job. With everything UGA has going for it, you really should be doing better than 10 win seasons with 3-4 trips to the SEC Champ game a decade.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||And some people are good at||
And some people are good at building things to a certain point while others are good at taking it to the next level. In sort of a Rick Carlisle - Larry Brown (ironic reference) kind of way.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||It's one of those victims of||
It's one of those victims of his own success problems. You're right, he took a program that had been bad and down for years to the title game and to several tourneys. But as a result, expectations have shifted. And getting run off the floor by borderline top 25 teams isn't part of those expectations anymore.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||1st Team AA||
1st team All-American (under 6-foot and too small to play in the NFL division)
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Last night||
Harbaugh was in-home with him last night. Probably a good sign.
|9 weeks 6 hours ago||His coaching style was good||
His coaching style was good enough that he was swearing loudly enough through the walls of the press box and had to be told to stop yelling and swearing.
|9 weeks 11 hours ago||They've done it the morning||
They've done it the morning of the game in years past. The ones I went to were always pretty star studded -- last one I did was 2014 I think. Not sure what the plans are this year though.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||And some people who want to||
And some people who want to be a head coach and finally get a chance to be a head coach, go...be a head coach.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||I just feel like any coach||
I just feel like any coach given the opportunity to coach and evaluate his players (and some assistants) would do that. Does he have to be super involved? No. But it would be his only chance to work directly with the players until the spring.
Plus, he's a first time head coach. He could probably use all the reps he can get at running a program.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Why not?||
Why wouldn't he? Richt isn't going to coach the practices, so someone needs to. It would be wierd to have a head coach passing up an opportunity to coach the 10-15 bowl practices you get.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Put it this way||
Put it this way, in an alternate universe where Michigan hires Tom Herman last year, would Michigan fans have been pissed if he stayed coaching Ohio State through the national championship and wasn't out recruiting players and a staff?
And in an even more remote universe where Michigan made a bowl last season, wouldn't you also be pissed that your new head coach was still coaching at a rival instead of at his new school coaching bowl practices and getting his team off to a head start?
How many Michigan fans would give a shit that their new coach won a title as an OC but passed up an opportunity to coach and recruit for Michigan to do it?
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Had Durkin stayed with||
Had Durkin stayed with Michigan, he wouldn't be recruiting for Michigan. So we'd be down a recruiter. With him leaving early, Harbaugh was able to promote Partridge to coaching staff, which allows him to recruit off-site -- filling the hole Durkin left.
|9 weeks 14 hours ago||He already has three||
Smart already has three national championship rings with Alabama (2009, 2011, 2012), a fourth isn't going to tip the scales that much.
|9 weeks 14 hours ago||The issue is||
The issue is that he's been looking for a head job for a long time, finally gets it, and rather than going to the new school to help build his team there, he's sticking with an in-conference team (albeit in a different division) to help them with their season.
Meanwhile, Georgia will have no coach to run their bowl practices, and no coach or permanent staff to go recruit. Little tough to recruit kids if you can't answer "will you be on staff next season?" If Alabama makes it to the national championship game, he'll only fully be in the Georgia job for 22 days before signing day. That's not setting yourself up for success very well.
Like, either you want to be a head coach, or you don't. Its the sitcom equivalent of having two dates with two different women on the same night -- it always ends terrible (but hilarious!).
|9 weeks 1 day ago||He did. Except on the last||
He did. Except on the last play of the game when it mattered most. Harbaugh and crew got badly out coached there. Sent dudes to go block non existent people downfield when MSU's only option was all-out block.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||He means incoming talent||
He means incoming talent compared to the slew of 4 and 5 stars Ohio State has. Which means Dantonio and his staff are as good or better at identifying raw talent and developing them into those future NFL types.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||The Rose will take whatever||
The Rose will take whatever team is ranked higher out of Iowa and Ohio State. So it's up to the committee who goes where.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Alabama. And it's probably||
Alabama. And it's probably not close. They have much more of a shady "get what they want" booster community than Michigan.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||This is a total Jimmy Sexton||
This is a total Jimmy Sexton move, who I'm pretty sure is the agent for both Smart and Pruitt (not to mention Saban and nearly every power power in the south)
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Fire up the Jeremy Pruitt bat signal.||
Fire up the Jeremy Pruitt bat signal. Nab him before Saban can.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Florida||
I'd much rather play Florida. They are a hot mess. No more star RBs for this season please...
The Big Ten will likely get three teams in a NY6 bowl. MSU/Iowa winner to the CFP, Ohio State to the Rose, and MSU/Iowa loser as an at-large to something like the Fiesta or Peach bowl.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||I'd take someone that can||
I'd take someone that can consistently hit open holes and make guys miss any day of the week over someone who is fast.
|9 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, hopefully he's on the||
Yeah, hopefully he's on the trip and gets a swag bag. But back and playing? LOL, noooooooooo that would be the dumbest burned redshirt ever.
|10 weeks 10 hours ago||Unless they hire Pruitt from||
Unless they hire Pruitt from Georgia. I could see that happening. Durkin made $800k and Pruitt made $850k so salaries are comparable.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Alabama isn't losing||
There is no way in hell Alabama is losing. Have you seen Florida the last few weeks?
The only chaos would be if Clemson loses to North Carolina, which is fairly possible. That would leave you with Alabama, Oklahoma, and the B1G winner. For the fourth slot, you'd have Pac-12 winner, UNC, and Ohio State. Since the committee values conf championships so much, I think Stanford would have the best resume of those three because of their win over Notre Dame. UNC has a terrible schedule (two FCS teams on it), and all Ohio State would have going for it is a win over a 15-20'ish ranked Michigan.
Plus, if it comes down to picking a second Big Ten team over a conference champ, they'll go with the conf champ if its close.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Supposedly he was told after||
Supposedly he was told after the game he was coming back as head coach and the crowd support was in fact a factor. Prior to that, Les thought that was it for him. I mean, how do you fire a guy when an entire stadium is chanting the dude's name?
And Alleva is toast. Dude totally botched this entire thing.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||No way Les leaves||
Les makes too much money to not come back. Plus, he has a ton of talent coming back and a great recruiting class coming in. No way in hell he walks out on that and his players.
The AD got outplayed badly, and will likely be the one looking for a new job.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||LOL||
LOL, none of this had anything to do with ESPN. The Times-Picayune first reported the story weeks ago, and it just rolled from there with plenty of non-ESPN reports corraborating it. All of the talk was coming out of LSU -- not Bristol, CT. You think Les got carried off and was carrying himself like a man who coached his last game at LSU because of an ESPN report?
People are crazy with their ESPN hate, man.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||We've been one of the worst in the country for years||
Brief period from 2011-12 where things were good, but its been bad for a while.
Forced Fumble Stats for Michigan
2015 -- 5 FF (114th nationally)
2014 -- 5 (122)
2013 -- 8 (102)
2012 -- 12 (61)
2011 -- 13 (21)
2010 -- 6 (112)
2009 -- 9 (89)
2008 -- 15 (23)
Subpar talent and bad coaching will do that to you. Gonna take a few more seasons to wash out the Hoke stink.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||I pointed this out well||
I pointed this out well before the season (Michigan has been one of the worst in the country at generating TOs the last several years) and said it was a byproduct of years of shit coaching and recruiting and got raked over the coals and neg bombed to hell for it.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||Doubtful. Don't think the Big||
Doubtful. Don't think the Big Ten will (or can) land teams in 3 of the 6 CFP/NY6 games.
|10 weeks 1 day ago||You're capped on the number||
You're capped on the number of recruits you can bring in, but not on transfers. I think there will be plenty of transfers in the offseason to open up space.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||No, it was mainly because the||
No, it was mainly because the Big House didn't have lights until recently and with a 3:30pm or later start it would've been too dark to finish at that time of year.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Ideally over the next few||
Ideally over the next few years this should be the spotlight game regardless of time slot.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Amen. Noon is too damn early for a game like that.||
Amen. Noon is too damn early for a game like that.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Resignation isn't the issue||
Of course Miles isn't resigning or announcing he's resigning. He's getting fired. If he resigns, he doesn't get that $15M buyout.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||Not to mention its a whole||
Not to mention its a whole HELL of a lot easier to make the playoff at FSU than it is at LSU. I just don't see many coaches wanting to leave a situation like FSU for one where 10-win seasons isn't good enough.
Jimbo is already at $5M a season. To leave FSU for LSU, they would have to go into the $7-8M/year range. He'd need a significant "put up with booster bullshit" bonus.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||This is the part I really||
This is the part I really don't like. Lewis will always be 26 to me. And Peppers 5. Let them create their own legacies in new numbers instead of shadowing in someone else's legacy
|10 weeks 2 days ago||I thought the Legends jerseys||
I thought the Legends jerseys program was awful. The patches were huge and awkward (patches just seem tacky to me), and I really didn't like players switching from their original jerseys into a legend jersey since that completely killed the opportunity for them to make a legend of their own.
We have giant empty blue walls on both sides of the stadium. As others have said, I don't know why we can't find a class and sleek way of doing a ring of honor. Keep the numbers in circulation, and if you wind up with multiple great players on a single number - like the #1 - then so be it. I'd much rather keep great numbers in circulation.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Aaron Shea||
Think it was Brian that said this somewhere, but Smith as an Aaron Shea type FB would be awesome. If you could put someone like a Kareem Walker and Smith in the backfield at the same time, that would create all sorts of problems for opposing defenses.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||King also has 8 INTs which is||
King also has 8 INTs which is the same as Michigan has as a team. Tough to argue he doesn't deserve to be a finalist.
Cash also has 18 tackles for loss, which is kinda insane.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||That's meta as hell, but what||
That's meta as hell, but what does it mean for Michigan? Who was he silent committed to?
|11 weeks 19 hours ago||Except we have injures.||
Except we have injures. That's why he said "right now"
|11 weeks 19 hours ago||Last time I checked, they had||
Last time I checked, they had the W, and Michigan didn't.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Never mind. Forgot that's a||
Never mind. Forgot that's a FOX game. Probably still Bedlam since the winner of that one likely wins the Big 12.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Sounds about right. I think||
Sounds about right. I think the committee will drop Florida though. They've looked bad two games in a row now. Slide them down and wedge Ohio State somewhere in that 8-11 range.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Could see them maybe going to||
Could see them maybe going to ND-Stanford. Especially if that's the ABC Primetime game. That's probably the biggest game of the week now.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||No way. Big Ten is in the||
No way. Big Ten is in the playoff as long as uncle Barry is on the committee.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Here's my conspiracy theory||
Zeke Elliott just said he's going pro too. Amongst some other things...
But here's my conspiracy theory: Ohio State lost on purpose. Urban Meyer is going to one of the monster job openings like USC, Georgia, LSU, or maybe Texas.
Due to recruiting, he needs to take the job as soon as the regular season is over. If Ohio State is in the playoff, he can't leave early -- he would be obligated to stick it out and coach through the playoff. But if they are out of it, he can leave when the regular season is done. So to be out of the playoff, he needed to lose to Michigan State or Michigan. Out of shear principle, he can't lose to Michigan so they drop the MSU game on purpose. That way he can still beat Michigan next week, and then leave on a high note.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah that's the Spurrier you||
Yeah that's the Spurrier you would get week in and week out. Not an upgrade.
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Spurrier doesn't give enough||
Spurrier doesn't give enough of a shit to do it. If you think Corso looks out of it and unprepared wait until you see Spurrier up there.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Who gives a shit if they were unbeaten?||
What does being unbeaten have to do with anything? Neither Iowa or Ohio State have played anyone of consequence. You don't get extra credit for beating them because you were the first good team they played.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Maybe||
I wouldn't take anything the committee has done this year or last as gospel. Each week things change and they may come up with some new shit they like.
I'm just saying its not as simple as win out and we're in. They need a few other things to go their way.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Exactly||
Michigan wins out, Stanford beats ND, USC beats Stanford is your path.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Except this week||
Except this week when they ranked Stanford ahead of us.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Stanford is ahead of us||
You also need to remember that Stanford is ahead of us as a 2-loss team. I don't know if wins over Ohio State and Iowa would be enough to trump their wins over Notre Dame and the Pac-12 South champ.
And hell, if Stanford beats Notre Dame, I'm not even sure if we jump ND in the 2-loss pile. ND would have losses to two top 10 teams. Our two losses would be near the ass end of the top 25 at that point. I think the committee would rank them ahead of us.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||No way its that high||
No way its high as 80%. I'd put it more around 40% if they win out. If Michigan wins out the rest of the regular season, that's probably only good enough to get them up to #6 or 7. Ohio State would drop out of the top 4 and would likely be replaced by the winner of Oklahoma - Oklahoma State. So you'd have a top four of Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, Okla/Okla St. They'd play #5 Iowa in the Big Ten champ game, and unless they crush Iowa it would be tough to justify more than a move up to Iowa's #5 ranking.
Outside of winning out, the best thing Michigan fans can cheer for is Stanford beating Notre Dame, and then (probably) USC beating Stanford in the Pac-12 title game. That would clear the path for Michigan to move into the top four to make it Clemson, Alabama, Big 12 winner, Michigan.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||Need a lot of help still||
It'll be tough. They need MSU to lose to Ohio St, Notre Dame to lose to Stanford, and Stanford to lose the Pac-12 champ game ideally. Some more carnage in the Big 12 would help too. If Michigan wins out, they'll have wins over the #3 team, and the #5 team and that might be just enough to squeak in as a 2-loss #4 team.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||A nice slap on the ass and a||
A nice slap on the ass and a "GO GETUM!!" as the ball carrier flys past you?
|11 weeks 5 days ago||OP was probably sarcastic but||
OP was probably sarcastic but the context is very much appreciated. I have no idea what a reasonable amount of missed tackles is.
|12 weeks 9 hours ago||Team Rankings||
TeamRankings has good info. All nicely organized too.
|12 weeks 9 hours ago||And now I want BBQ.||
And now I want BBQ.
|12 weeks 11 hours ago||Its also pretty far off from||
Its also pretty far off from "covered most of the spreads" which is what I was responding to.
But to your point, its only one-game off which in this situation is as close as you can get. So like I said, is not too far off.
|12 weeks 11 hours ago||BONUS FUN FACT||
Since 2006, Michigan is 17-28-1 (37.8%) on the road against the spread. Third worst in the FBS. As an away favorite, they are just 7-13 (35%) in that span.
The last 10 years have been rough.
BONUS, BONUS FUN FACT: They are 1-2 ATS on the road as a favorite this season.
|12 weeks 12 hours ago||This game has ugly shitfest||
This game has ugly shitfest written all over it. It'll be something dumb like 18-16.
|12 weeks 12 hours ago||Haven't been a ton better this year either||
Michigan is 5-5 against the spread this season, which isn't too far off their 10-year average. Since 2006 they are 51-67-5 ATS (43.2%). There are only 8 teams that have been worse over that time.
So he's right, had you consistently bet against Michigan on the spread over the last 10 years, you would have made a nice little profit.
And just for shits and giggles, guess who the best at covering the spread over the last 10 seasons is? Ohio State at 75-50-2 (60%). Impressive.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Vodka Ginger Ale Ice In my||
In my belly
Commence warm fuzzy feeling
|13 weeks 4 days ago||True non profits.LOL, the||
True non profits.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Putting up the Photoshop batsignal||
Now someone just needs to swap out Jack's face for Harbaugh's and replace those metal tins with NFL team logos, and we'll have a GIF for the ages.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Scenario is if Michigan wins Big Ten||
The scenario is if Michigan wins the Big Ten at 11-2. They would need OSU to beat MSU and then Michigan has to beat OSU and wind up the higher rated team by the selection committee to go to the Big Ten championship game where they would beat Iowa to win the Big Ten. An 11-2 Big Ten champ Michigan probably isn't getting in the playoff.
The hard part will be that you'd have to have faith that the committee would put a 12'ish ranked Michigan over a recently beaten top 3'ish Ohio State to wind up being the team that goes to the Big Ten championship game.
|14 weeks 16 hours ago||Its all part of the game||
Bad calls by the officials are just as much of a part of the game as bad plays and calls by the teams. You can't go back and change the outcome of a game just because a bad call happened on the last play of the game. Because if you're going to do that, then why stop there? Why not go back to the second quarter and overturn a TD because there was holding or something.
Shit happens. And shit happening is a glorious part of CFB.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||It is maddening as hell to||
It is maddening as hell to watch an offense that simply can't throw the ball downfield AT ALL. Like I watched some highlights at halftime of other teams throwing the ball downfield and was just like...fuck...we don't have ANYONE that can do that?? That shit is a basic part of being a QB.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Keys in the ignition was the||
Keys in the ignition was the mistake. Had a cop tell me back in HS that even if the car is parked and off and you're sleeping, if the keys are in the ignition that's all the proof they need for a DUI. Throw the keys on the floor and sleep in the back seat and you'll be fine.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||And Georgia is down to a||
And Georgia is down to a third stringer. So....advantage Florida.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Considering in the midst of||
Considering in the midst of those channels are networks like AMC (Walking Dead) and FX (The Americans) and USA (Mr. Robot) and not to mention networks like TNT and TBS home to the NBA and all of the dumb reruns I like to watch....yeah that's some good content all bundled together nicely.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Nah, if anything, we're||
Nah, if anything, we're exiting the golden age of sports broadcasting.
To trim costs, networks will look to produce games cheaper. That means fewer cameras, shittier production crews (just think of a BTN broadcast if you're wondering how that will go), and doing things like having announcers call the game from an audio booth 1000mi away.
You'll also see less games broadcast and replaced with cheaper to produce talking head content. Much in the same way networks have replaced scripted shows for cheap reality TV or game shows or shit like Dancing With The Stars.
Then, for premium content, like say...Michigan football games, they charge more for that because it's in demand.
I think one day we'll look back and say "man, we used to be able to get quality broadcasts of almost every game from every conference, league, and sport for $150 a month or so AND I could get 200 other channels of content with it."
Glory days are over my man.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||I explained in more detail||
I explained in more detail above, but part of the reason they paid so much more is because they are also negotiating to run that NFL content on all of their shows. The NFL is their lifeblood and CBS, NBC, and Fox don't have the countless hours and tons of shows that need NFL highlights to fill. That's why ESPN paid so much more. They are using the video in a whole hell of a lot more places than any other network.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||You're right to an extent.||
You're right to an extent. It's not just the rights to air the game they pay for. Part of the money they pay, and a reason they pay so much for things like the NFL, is they also pay for the right to use the footage from those games in other shows like Sportscenter, NFL Live, NFL Primetime, OTL, First Take, Mike and Mike, etc, etc
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah that'll be interesting.||
Yeah that'll be interesting. With cuts at ESPN and Fox, it would seem the bubble has either popped or execs are at least aware it's about to pop and will (or should be) budget conscious with their bids. Both Fox and ESPN have about the same amount ($44b if I remember right) tied up in long term deals. Will be interesting to see what the Big Ten is able to get from them. Each network is playing a bit of a game of chicken with the financial future of their networks at stake.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Believe it or not, First Take||
Believe it or not, First Take gets huge ratings for them. And in turn, big ad dollars.
|15 weeks 10 hours ago||No||
|15 weeks 19 hours ago||What's the difference between||
What's the difference between Alabama and Utah? Both have fluky losses to mediocre teams due to lots of turnovers, and neither has beaten anyone that has turned out to be that good. Alabama's wins are over a bunch of overhyped shitty teams.
|15 weeks 19 hours ago||No. They compare teams by||
No. They compare teams by resume in small groups and build their rankings that way. Last year, the AP Poll started to reflect the CFP rankings, not the other way around.
|15 weeks 19 hours ago||Who cares? Scoreboard, man.||
Who cares? Scoreboard, man. Rankings don't mean shit if you don't win on the field.
|15 weeks 19 hours ago||Will be interesting to see||
Will be interesting to see who gets left out this year. Say OSU wins out, Baylor wins out, and ND beats Stanford...would be some interesting calls for that final spot. You'd be picking between the Pac-12 champ, ACC champ, and SEC champ. Undefeated Clemson still isn't a sure thing. Baylor at least has the benefit of having some ranked teams on the backend of their schedule. Clemson has nothing.
|15 weeks 19 hours ago||Fourth shutout in five weeks||
Fourth shutout in five weeks
|15 weeks 4 days ago||That's not how TV or business works in general||
The reason they run ads and run so many of them are because they (along with Fox, CBS, NBC, Turner, etc) have to pay for the ever increasing billions and billions in rights fees they've shelled out to leagues for the right to broadcast their games. Its not short term gain, but rather trying to stay even for both short and long term.
And its not simply a matter of asking advertisers to shell out more -- that's just not how business works in general. They have budgets and bottom lines as well, and while live sports is one of the few good buys left in the ad world, you can only get so much from advertisers. If you ask them for 50% more so you can run 50% fewer ads, they will tell you to fuck off and spend their ad money elsewhere. And then you'll have no ad revenue and be up shit's creek.
The more people that cut the cord, the more ads you're going to see. Either that, or it'll go to a pay per view model and you'll be shelling out $50+ per high demand game.
|15 weeks 4 days ago||For all the people that work||
For all the people that work at ESPN and are effected by this...
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Nope||
No, that was pretty much his normal wind up in the fourth quarter. His three successful punts took 1.5s, 1.3s, and 1.4 from the ball hitting his hands to hitting his foot. The one I used was the 1.5s one, so its a touch longer than normal, but not by a second or anything like that.
And from what I can tell going frame by frame, .1s is about equal to a yard of distance covered by MSU. And MSU slowed up once the ball was fumbled anyways so the fact I used the slightly slower one makes much of a difference. Half the MSU team was going to be in his face.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Not if the other team isn't fielding it||
You don't have to cover the punt downfield if the other team isn't bothering to return it.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Here watch this||
OK, to drive home my point, watch this GIF I just made. Its an overlay of the botched punt and a second very similar punt from a punt with 12:15 to go in the 4th Q. I've lined up the line of scrimmage, blockers, and Blake the best I can, and synced the snaps and moment it hits his hand. Watching it in real speed, you can see we were fucked regardless.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||That's true, but doesn't change much||
You're right that Michigan's blocking was rolling right, but that doesn't change the fact that two of those three guys on the right are going to be coming in clean. And a third MSU player blew past a block and was coming up the middle.
On his previous three punts, he moved forward about 3 yards to punt after catching it, and took 1.5s to punt it. 1.5s after it hits his hands is this frame, and 3 yards forward is right where he's at in the frame. That's bad news even with a clean catch.
This is also a good shot of the four players heading up field to block empty space.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||Didn't take that long||
It didn't take that long. 1.5s after the ball reaches him, he has 6 MSU players within 5 yards, and four of them are within about 2 yards. That's a blocked punt even if he catches it clean.
|15 weeks 6 days ago||It was a colossal ST coaching F'up||
I've watched that play back so many times frame by frame from every angle available on the broadcast and that whole punt was doomed from the beginning. If O'Neill catches it clean, I'm convinced its getting blocked. MSU called an all out punt block and Michigan either didn't notice or didn't care and went with their normal punt return setup. That's an awful fuckup by the coaches, and it came after they called a time out.
I mean, there's a Michigan player out wide lined up over no one, three unblocked Spartans on the left side of the formation, and four Michigan players head down field after the snap to cover cover a non-existant returner.
That's some Brady Hoke level fuck-upery there.
|16 weeks 13 hours ago||Its in play, but ain't gonna happen||
Before the MSU game, I thought Michigan might beat Ohio State. But regardless of how the MSU game ended, I think we have pretty slim chances there. MSU was very weak in the secondary and we could barely do anything to exploit it. Ohio State is a more talented D, and a more potent offense. Gonna be tough to beat that with our limitations.
9-3 would still be a good season though.
|16 weeks 18 hours ago||Cost us our only two losses so far||
The no turnovers thing has been nice, but if he could connect at all on a deep ball we'd be undefeated. The inability to do so cost us wins at Utah and against MSU.
But it is what it is at this point. Its not in his arsenal, it will keep our offense limited, and it will probably cost us another loss or two down the road. Sometimes you just are what you are, and Michigan is a great defensive team with a handicapped/limited offense. And teams like that generally finish with 2-4 losses.
Its tough to be really good on both sides of the ball.
|16 weeks 19 hours ago||Dude, he was screwed no matter what||
Watch the tape again, and you'll see that punt was doomed from the get go. MSU had a 10 on 8 advantage on the line and only 1 or 2 of our guys bothered to hold a block at all because they were blocking for a return and not a max protect punt. The line looked like that image of Michigan's OL against Ohio State a few years back where every defender has moved through.
Furthermore, on Blake's second to last punt, there was 2.2s from snap to kick. And that was a fairly quick kick -- not one of his hold it and then punt kicks. At 2.2s on this one, he's got 4 unblocked guys surrounding him, plus another 2-3 within a couple yards. It would have been a miracle if he got that punt off clean even with a perfect snap.
I'm shitty at embedding so this probably won't work, but here's the pics:
Presnap -- dude lined up wide with no one on him should have been clue #2. No one back to return should have been clue #1.
Just after the snap. Sieve engaged and you can see Michigan players heading upfield to block no one.
And 2.2s after the snap -- the time when Blake should be putting foot to ball. Just a swarm of bodies around him.
The coaches botched this one. MSU was going full block, and Michigan was punting expecting a return. Blake was set up to fail regardless of whether or not it was a clean snap and catch.
|16 weeks 19 hours ago||The Scar Game||
Seems pretty perfect. Has the whole asshole brother thing, and then the feeling of being throw off a cliff.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Eat a dick. Respectfully of course.||
Eat a dick. Respectfully of course.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Because it was a fluke. Some||
Because it was a fluke. Some times shitty things happen for no goddamn good reason at all. This was one of those times.
|16 weeks 1 day ago||Dude we threw it downfield||
Dude we threw it downfield the series before that and missed a sure fire TD that would have sealed the game. There's a reason we don't throw down field. It just doesn't work with Rudock. It's a big flaw with this team and is what it is for the year.
|16 weeks 4 days ago||Me too. Keep hoping he starts||
Me too. Keep hoping he starts making them again. They were really good.
|16 weeks 6 days ago||Ah the ol' "hey man, this was||
Ah the ol' "hey man, this was kinda shitty" waiver.
And oldy, but goody.
|17 weeks 10 hours ago||Did you forget about the 2015 class?||
Did you forget about the 2015 class? From Damien Harris to George Campbell we had a TON of decommits.
|17 weeks 12 hours ago||Like staying sober?||
Haden gets a lot of shit, but putting Sark on a leave of absence to deal with his problems -- if in fact the problems are alcoholism -- is the right move here.
EDIT: On second thought, the right move was to do this after he was pulled off stage at the Salute to Troy event. That was a big red flag, and it went by with no punishment. It was apparently known (as I'm now reading) that Sark's issues with alcohol were no secret even while he was at Washington. Haden's just created a bigger mess by allowing this to happen in the middle of the season. He should rightfully come under heavy fire for this.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Looks like that's what it is||
I kind of thought the same thing watching them, and it looks like that's what the problem is. Hope he gets the help he needs. Probably should have gone this route at the start of the season when he was pulled from stage for being too drunk.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Not quite a shakeup||
From the reports out there, it sounds like he was "in bad shape" this morning and was sent home by Pat Haden. And then was placed on a leave of absence.
Given his issues with alcohol earlier in the year, you can probably read between the lines at what's wrong here.
Here's hoping Sark gets the help he needs.
|17 weeks 13 hours ago||Allen||
Yeah, for Allen to go from not being able to put any weight at all on his leg to being good to go in a week is going to take some serious medical marvels.