|2 hours 9 min ago||He also lost confidence in||
He also lost confidence in his shot. Right before he sat for good, he passed up a couple of looks that were open for a second. As bad as his shot was that night, if he himself no longer confidence in it then sitting him was the right call. A tough and gutsy call, but the right one.
|1 day 22 hours ago||Complaining fuels Saban's||
Complaining fuels Saban's soul.
|2 days 14 hours ago||I stand corrected. Turns out||
I stand corrected. Turns out my degree from the Billy Madison school of law is not very good.
|2 days 20 hours ago||If she's grabbing at his leg||
If she's grabbing at his leg as he's trying to leave, she's also guilty of assault.
|2 days 20 hours ago||Really?||
Or, considering it was 1am and she got super heated over a light being left on, maybe she came home drunk, started a fight, and Lewis got the raw end of the deal because she called the cops on him because she was actively harrassing him and grabbing him (which is also assault, BTW) as he was trying to leave. Both her and Lewis say she was dragged on the floor because she grabbed onto his leg a la Jeff Van Gundy on Alzono Mourning as he was trying to leave. She doesn't even remember how she wound up on the floor in the first place.
I try and view all of these situations impartially, and this one feels far from "bad stuff" and feels very much like a drunk girl that went nuts on a guy and the guy is being punished for it because she called the cops. In almost all of these cases the male never gets the benefit of the doubt.
|1 week 1 day ago||Yeah for as great as the||
Yeah for as great as the other players behind Darko wound up being, none of them would have been a good fit on that team. They didn't need Wade because they had Rip and Chauncey, and they didn't need Bosh because they already had a tall skinny big man in Tayshaun. Tayshaun would have presented playing time problems for Carmelo too, not to mention that Carmelo and Larry Brown would've been a bad fit.
The one thing that team didn't have was a solid big man. So going after Darko was as no brainer as no brainer gets.
|1 week 1 day ago||I also remember reading at||
I also remember reading at the time that Darko didn't even start or play that much for his Euro team. Which also seemed like a giant red flag. Like if you're supposed to be a transcendent big man, shouldn't you be playing and dominating against Euro players?
|1 week 1 day ago||He was like the Rick Ankiel||
He was like the Rick Ankiel of basketball GMs. Shined brighter than almost anyone for a few years, and then turned into a total shitshow.
|1 week 1 day ago||I got a kick out of that too.||
I got a kick out of that too. And from reading all of the people freaking out about what he said -- like you have to be inducted into some secret order of BBQ to be able to cook meat at a high level of quality. If you know what you're doing, and have the right equipment you can cook almost anything at a high level. Now you might not be able to replicate the type of great BBQ at Franklin's or the Pecan Lodge or any other BBQ mecca due to lack of equipment/secret combo of spices, but can you get 80-90% of the way there? Hell yes. And that will still be some damn tasty food.
Its not like BBQ is like molecular gastromomy. Its good meat, seasoning, and time. Not hard.
|1 week 4 days ago||FUN FACT||
FUN FACT: Last 6 seed to reach the Final Four was the Fab Five back in 1992.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||My understanding is that good||
My understanding is that good tackles are always hard to find --- which is why they earn a premium in the NFL. Mediocre tackles can always slide inside though and play guard and be succesful there.
Take Kyle Kalis. He was recruited as a tackle, couldn't hack it there, moved inside to guard and started 43 games there for Michigan.
But you also have mini planets like Mike Onwenu who are never going to play tackle and can only play in the middle.
So a good rule of thumb is to recruit a lot of tackles, let the cream rise to the top and move the rest inside. That way you don't get stuck in a spot like Michigan is in this year where the middle of the line will be filled fine, but tackle is a bit of a mystery. Which is never a good thing.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I think the DBs will be fine||
I think the DBs will be fine but the offense is going to need to undergo some changes to help that OL out. Play calling did them no favors last season. Potential is high, but expectations are low.
But hey, like you said, expectations for the LBs were low too at this time last season and they turned out fine. OL and DB are a whole lot more unforgiving than LB though.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Along with patience (the best||
Along with patience (the best RB ability IMO), there's also run blocking. And catching the ball. And holding on to the ball. And a host of other things. If it was all about speed, Denard would be slaying it as an RB in the NFL. Straight line speed might be the least important RB trait.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Gronkless Pats||
I think you're right with a Gronkless Pats expectation. They don't have an established OL or any sort of proven workhorse at RB, but they do have a lot of young weapons at WR and some good situational weapons in the backfield. Going situationally quick tempo and throwing lots of weapons out there and deploying crazy Harbaugh formations could prove to be pretty successful.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I'd take solid OL play over||
I'd take solid OL play over solid QB play any day. I'd probably also take solid OL play over mediocre QB play.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Outside of maybe QB, those||
Outside of maybe QB, those are pretty much the worst two things to be concerned about for a team.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||This is why I feel like it's||
This is why I feel like it's much more of a wide open race at RB than it seems. Would not be surprised at all if Evans remained a situational threat and someone else took the bulk of the carries.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I'm all for the magazine||
I'm all for the magazine style setup. The current look/style is actually limiting to the amount of content you can publish in a day because every new item you publish buries something else. Publish three things before 2pm or so and there's a good chance a solid chunk of people miss the first post.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I've done more than my fair||
I've done more than my fair share of bitching about the site lately, so A) thank you for giving a revamp a third go, and B) thank you for addressing the coming changes. Very much appreciated.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I'll be fine||
There's Twitter, /r/cfb, other blogs....I'll be fine -- and so would anyone else that wanted to leave. Killing the app and the general disdain for the overall readership here has just really rubbed me the wrong way.
I've said it before that I enjoy the content on the main page during the season, but the only way we really have of getting Brian's attention to actually do something is to cut down on the traffic that comes to the site. The majority of which is spawned by the message board.
So if I can do something like unfollow the MGoFeed on Twitter, and just generally cut down on message board visits, and others do it as well....maybe things will get better. Not likely given Brian's disposition towards change, but hey, its all we can do.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Shocking||
I'm genuinely just about done with this site. Axing the HD app has made it pretty easy to drop it altogether since I no longer cehck the site at night or on the weekend. If I didn't follow the MGoFeed account on Twitter, I probably wouldn't come here much at all during the weekday.
Its just poorly run, and I'm tired of supporting a bad product.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I know the losses were close.||
I know the losses were close. Just saying 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 years down the road I think we'll look back at the 2016 season as a major missed opportunity. Like in a "how the hell did that team lose 3 games?" kind of way.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Yup||
Yeah, the 2016 season is not going to age well. Not great when your best team in a decade that's absolutely littered with NFL talent can still only manage a 10-3 season.
Bad OLs man...they are a hell of a thing.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||He can also do some of the||
He can also do some of the non-running/jumping drills like the bench press.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Who said I loved Notre Dame?||
Who said I loved Notre Dame? I just said they were essentially the same as Michigan in terms of being a "top program" which apparently most of you disagree with.
Michigan fans like to think of the Wolverines like they are a top 10 or top 5 program, but when it comes to winning and losing games (the things that actually matter), they've been more of a fringe top 25 team for the last two decades -- the time frame that actually matters to the kids they are recruiting.
I've done the research on this for a project for work, and their 64.2% winning percentange from 1996-2016 ranks 22nd. Right below Iowa, tied with BYU, and one spot better than Nebraska. Ohio State is 2nd, Wisconsin is 9th, Penn State is 20th, Notre Dame is 28th, and MSU is 30th in case you're curious.
And there's no good way to look up recruits Michigan has flipped without spending some serious time. Quickest way was to ask the board and the hivemind.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Is the bottom where the truth||
Is the bottom where the truth is?
|5 weeks 3 days ago||The one season long||
The one season long trajectory? Let's maybe wait another season or two before calling it a trajectory. Notre Dame was the exact same 10-3 Michigan was in 2015.
Also, no one outside of the NCAA and rival fans give a crap about forfeited wins.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Me too||
That's one thing I've always wanted to see someone do the research on. Just a massive spreadsheet with all of the commits and decommits for like the top 300 or so recruits going back years. 247 records all of that stuff, but I don't know how far back they go with it.
Would be interesting to see how commit dates for QBs have changed over the years, how often recruits decommit, how often someone like Solomon decommits and then recommits, things like that.
Would also be fun to see what the record for most commits and decommits is. Jordan Elliott has to be up there. Committed to Baylor, Houston, Michigan, and Texas in the span of a year.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||I need more coffee.||
I need more coffee.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Then that's a self own||
Good joke, but its a self own. Because....fun facts!
Over the last 5 seasons, Notre Dame is 43-21 while Michigan is 40-24.
Over the last 10 seasons, both programs are 75-52.
So if Notre Dame isn't a top program...
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Good call||
Good call. As are Donovan Jeter from ND, Lavert Hill from PSU, and David Long from Stanford. Those were all top tier recruits which is what I was thinking about.
I know there's been lower tier recruits like McDoom from Oregon and Nordin from PSU, but I was thinking more of the top tier ones since its harder to flip those.
And clearly I need more coffee this AM to get the ol' memory cells working.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Uh, everything?||
Everything? It was in response to the "long way to go" comment, which kinda implies that Michigan will flip him. Which is why I asked how often they've flipped someone.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Down year though||
Its a down year for the state of Michigan talent wise, so positioning themselves for in-state talent isn't going to have the same overall results it did last year. Hence all the "why so many 3 and 4-star projections?" cries after Brian's 2018 offense and defense recruiting overviews.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Might be missing someone, but||
Might be missing someone, but has Michigan flipped any one from a top program since Harbaugh got here?
|5 weeks 5 days ago||I upvoted both of you.||
I upvoted both of you. Because yes, the OP's story was arrogant. And also, fuck Ohio State because they are bags of dicks.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Great minds...||
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Hilarious||
Sounds like you had to be there.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||Let me rephase that then,||
Let me rephase that then, unless Michigan is looking to employ the same tactics Georgia did to land Wilson then its tough to make up a lot of ground when starting from ground zero.
And they were in on both Wilson and DPJ at this point last year. They aren't in on anyone of that caliber at the moment.
Is landing some 5-stars possible? Sure. Is it likely? No. To chase 5-stars you need a few irons in the fire because not all of them are going to pan out, but its not even apparent where the fire is at the moment.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah, that's the problem with||
Yeah, that's the problem with "Michigan will get in on more 5-stars than you think" mentalitly. They really aren't in the mix for any at the moment. On the 2018 247 composite there are 26 5-stars, and 11 of them are already committed. Two are committed to Ohio State and two are committed to Penn State. Michigan is only listed as "warm" for one: BJ Foster from Texas a 100% Texas lean.
Meanwhile, Ohio State is listed as warm for 8 of the uncommitted ones, and they are the crystal ball favorite for 3 of those.
Michigan is pretty far behind with top prospects in this class and has a LOT of ground to make up. And the fact that Penn State and Ohio State are off to very hot starts and targeting a lot of the same guys Michigan would certainly doesn't help.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah I don't get it either.||
Yeah I don't get it either. They aren't in the mix for any.
Granted, its early in the cycle still and they weren't in the mix for Aubrey Solomon at this point last year either, but in general its tough to make up ground on other schools when you're starting from zero.
That's why I think the projections of a more 4-star heavy class with some 3-star fliers is accurate. Its just the way things are trending for this class.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||The moms were all using the||
The moms were all using the HD App exclusively and haven't been able to get back on the site.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||That is such an asshat thing||
That is such an asshat thing to say.
|6 weeks 14 hours ago||"Reporting possible suspects"||
"Reporting possible suspects" is an oxymoron. You report facts. Everything else is either speculation or opinion.
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||Maybe, but they aren't in on||
Maybe, but they aren't in on many 5-star types at the moment, which makes projecting any of them to Michigan a total shot in the dark.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Me maybe?||
I posted that thought on Reddit. Not sure if that's where you read it or not, but I think that's the way to go here. Between this and the Bliss murder coverup from the early 2000s, there's no reason to keep Baylor in the Big 12. They are shitty and deceitful all in the name of athletics. Given that they aren't a blue blood program in that conference, they have no rivalries, and have only been relevant for a few years, there is zero incentive to keep them in the Big 12. None of the other schools would miss them if they were gone.
If the investigation finds Baylor guilty, and the details continue to look awful for not just Briles and staff, but the admin at Baylor, then just kick them the fuck out. There's zero reason to keep them. Houston would gladly take their place, and the conference is rich enough to fight Baylor's lawsuit for breach of contract or whatever in court. The end result of which would probably be a settlement and Baylor out of the Big 12.
The only, I repeat ONLY way to reach and truly punish these schools is through the wallet. Kicking them out of the Big 12, would be many, many, more times impactful than a death penalty.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||For sure. Its a net win for||
For sure. Its a net win for him, but a loss for us, the people that actually use the site. And that's the part that annoys me.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Not sure its exactly a first||
Not sure its exactly a first world problem type of thing since I find the mobile experience bad enough to not even bother visiting the site.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Sure, you can use the site on||
Sure, you can use the site on a mobile browser, but its a pretty terrible experience because the site doesn't have a mobile version of itself. So you're left with constantly having to zoom and pan. And posting a comment is even worse since the text box doesn't size to fit with the screen. So you have to pan to the side when whatever you're typing goes off the screen.
If you never used the MGoBlog HD app, you really don't know what you were missing out on. It was a better version of the site itself in just about every way.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Good info||
Good info, and that's kind of what I've always suspected. That the site is just too ancient to be reasonably upgraded and that a complete overhaul is necessary.
To me, it seems like he's going to have to take the plunge one of these days. Otherwise as the net continues to evolve, he is going to get left behind.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||There's a small part of me||
There's a small part of me that feels bad for Dantonio having his little empire fall apart.
And then I remember he's a petty, vengeful, prick and deserves all of this for being an unrepentant asshole the last decade.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Already deleted||
Unfortunately, I already deleted the app. So I'm screwed.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Its because Brian doesn't||
Its because Brian doesn't give a shit. If he did, things would have been updated or fixed years ago.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Same exact thing for me. I'm||
Same exact thing for me. I'm still on the blog when I'm at work (like now), but at home and on the weekends it almost never happens. I've tried using the site on mobile web, but it is so insanely tedious -- constantly having to zoom in and out and pan around, and typing a comment is awful too -- I'm pretty much done with that too.
And frankly, I don't even know if I would donate to upgrade the site or the app anymore. Lost a lot of faith in the guys here over that.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Agreed||
Agreed. The end result has been I usually only visit MGoBlog during work hours and not at all on the weekend. The official app is garbage and I refuse to use it, and trying to use the site on mobile is even worse.
So.....good job MGoStaff. You've created less engagement.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||How?||
How is that possible? Mine popped up a screen and told me it was no longer supported last week or so. And I'm using a 6s too.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Oh, you're right. I blame||
Oh, you're right. I blame the reporter that tweeted that out after the news of Sark to the Falcons came out.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||That fourth quarter collapse||
That fourth quarter collapse against Clemson really impressed the Falcons.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Welp...||
Sark: USC -> Bama -> Falcons
Kiffin: USC -> Bama -> USF
Someone is doing it wrong.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Highly qualified people||
Highly qualified people...like Chip Kelly.
Although I'm not sure if Saban would take Chip since he is likely to be one and done too.
EDIT: I stand corrected.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Hey man...sometimes you need||
Hey man...sometimes you need a little strange when moving to a new town. Waco ain't the greatest place to meet women, after all.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Yeah, there's just way too||
Yeah, there's just way too little infomation out there -- both on the scouting services end and on Michigan's end -- to come up with any sort of projection now that's going to look good.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||You've missed the point||
Which 4* and 5* players would you have Brian project then?
My basic point was referring to all of the "this is underwhelming" and "projecting a bunch of lower rated players" people. Given the type and number of recruits that have shown interest in Michigan thus far, it is impossible -- at this moment -- to do anything other than come up with a list that is underwhelming or filled with lower rated people.
If you would have clicked on my link in the previous comment, you would have seen there's a total of eighteen 4* or better recruits that are either committed to, or have "warm" or better interest in Michigan -- and a whole LOT of "cool" interest levels.
Eleven of those 18 are offensive players so if you think the offensive projection is weak or underwhelming, just wait for the defensive one. But hey, if you think Brian should just throw shit against the wall and project a bunch of 4* and 5* players that have showed no interest in Michigan to make this list look better, then by all means, feel free to do that.
Also, I said nothing at all about how things were going to go between now and Feb. 2018. Clearly, things will get rosier on the recruiting and projection front. I don't think anyone is debating that.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Long live RoboHenne||
Long live RoboHenne
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Problem is there aren't any||
Problem is there aren't any higher-rated recruits you can project to Michigan right now. There just aren't many that have shown more than a passing interest.
EDIT: If you don't believe me, go look on 247 or the site of your chosing and look at the interest level. At least on 247, out of the 105 recruits they list as either a top target or high choice, only 22 are either committed or have warm or better interest in Michigan. For Ohio State, its 37/63 and Penn State its 31/54.
Given that, it makes it a little difficult to project a class beyond something that feels luckluster.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||We need to archive this||
We need to archive this to see how close you got and award you varying levels of MGoPoints based on how close you got.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Thought the same||
Yeah, I did the same and came to the same "hmmm....this doesn't seem great" conclusion. They have their work cut out for them this year pulling guys from non-traditional Michigan pipeline states.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||I think Peters was option 3||
In addition to going after Costello, I think he tried going after Jacob Eason too.
EDIT: I remembered correctly. Ace had a good write-up on it in this post: http://mgoblog.com/content/monday-recruitin-maybe
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Its an underwhelming list for a reason||
Take a look around 247's 2018 list
I did the same exercise Brian did a few days ago and came to the same conclusion. Its an underwhelming list for a reason. At least accoriding to 247's reporting, most of the top recruits aren't showing much interest in Michigan at this point.
It also doesn't help that Penn State is off to a ridiculous start in 2018 recruiting and snapping up and drawing interest from guys Michigan would likely be targeting.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Might be hard||
I was looking around on 247 the other day at the 2018 class to get a lay of the land, and it might be harder to Michigan to pull in some top flight talent in this class. There's not as much top shelf talent in their traditional watering holes (MI, OH, NJ), and Penn State has already snapped up quiet a few guys Michigan would normally go after.
Just seems like this class in general is going to be quiet a bit different than the other Harbaugh classes. Like you said, they don't seem to be in on a lot of talented guys and the talent just isn't there this year in the places they normally get it.
Feels like it'll be a pretty late developing class.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||A year?||
My guess is not much longer than a year. While having two sites for a popular team like Michigan might make sense and bring in more profit, having duplicates of things like scouting to fuel dual Scout 300 and Top 247 rankings makes zero sense.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks, buddy. Still doesn't||
Still doesn't change the fact that WD is wrong and full of shit.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||More like a car dealership||
Its more similar to running a car dealership that sells both Cadillac and Chevy. Separate brands, people may own both, but they share the same parent company and backend overhead.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Scout and 247 will both continue||
Scout and 247 are both going to continue as is. If you want to know more about it from 247's CEO and one of CBS' VPs (CBS owns 247), you can read this interview they gave with their plans a few days ago.
WD is full of shit and jumping to conclusions.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||They filed for Ch. 11||
They filed for Ch. 11 bankruptcy back in December with plans to sell off the business at auction. CBS/247 won the auction last week with a winning bid of $9.5M. They were the only bid. The guy that founded Scout tried to ask for more time to put together a bid, but was denied.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||That's not how its going to||
That's not how its going to work. They are planning on keeping both sites running. So there will still be a Scout 300 and a Top 247. Also and Steve will write for 247 while Sam will continue to write for Scout.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||This is wrong||
You're pretty far off here, WD. Scout isn't going anywhere. Read THIS interview with 247's CEO.
“[We’ll] absolutely keep running both of them,” he said. “These are two separate brands, two separate companies if you will within the CBS Sports family. Back in technology, marketing, sales, things of that nature, you know, we will share resources, but our first order of business is to give the Scout customers a great product and to stabilize that business for the employees. Fortunately for us, there isn’t a lot of overlap. We’re really strong in a market that they’re really weak in pretty much across the board. We have no plans of shutting down any site or merging them at this time. That’s something that we will discuss way down the road, once we get the business thriving.”
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah I don't know why there||
Yeah I don't know why there is all of this RIP Scout talk. 247's CEO has said they plan to keep Scout running as is and stablize that suite of sites and run it along with 247. They see them as complementary businesses. Which, on the surface doesn't make sense, but if you think about it, if Scout's Michigan site is profitable, and 247's Michigan site is profitable you may as well keep them both running. Keep the edit staff for both and then save on combined hosting fees and whatever else backend you can.
I think eventually they will combine some sites, but for now their plan is to keep everyone and run two separate recruiting sites. So you'll still have a Scout 300 and a Top 247, they will just be coming from different parts of the same company.
Which feels extremely redundant to me, but hey, it's not my money.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Especially when flying back||
Especially when flying back from the west coast. That's practically a whole day.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||That's what I think too. It||
That's what I think too. It just seems really unlikely that he'd be ready to go by the start of the season. Doing drills and working out, sure. But if he's not in a position where he can contribute as a starter by game 4, then just redshirt him.
I think it was umbig11 that said it was almost a career-ender.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Reading it and hearing it the||
Reading it and hearing it the same place you are, chief. Unless you feel like your third and fourth hand sources are much better.
I think it was umbig11 or someone else close to the team that said it was almost a career ender, and that it would be pretty unlikely that he would play.
And hey, if y'all want to feel like "a real shot at playing" is the same as "he'll be a starter" then have at it. I'll be over here in reality where most injuries that keep you in a hospital for a month don't have quick recoveries.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||What....the fuck did I just||
What....the fuck did I just try and read?
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Probably 1-2 more transfers||
Probably 1-2 more transfers and 1-2 firm handshakes to some 5th year seniors.
Also, Grant Perry.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Newsome||
Everything I've read about Newsome says he's a very long shot to come back next year. That injury was almost a career-ender.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Camps||
I've always wondered how accurate the measurements at the Nike/Rivals/etc camps are. I mean, I've watched them weigh and measure the recruits as they check in, but there's nothing stopping the person recording those measurements from writing down something inflated.
And I've also seen recruits skip that whole process altogether.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||That's pretty much exactly||
That's pretty much exactly how I interpretted it. To me it sounded like they know of some guys that are looking to transfer, have maybe kicked the tires on them a bit, but just have to wait to see if there is enough mutual interest for the kid to transfer.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Well, our other options there||
Well, our other options there are people that have never played in college period, so I think I'd take my chances with a grad transfer senior who needs a bit of coaching.
|7 weeks 9 hours ago||Yeah tough to blame them||
Yeah tough to blame them after getting blindsided by Wilson, who much like Solomon was, was a silent commit going in to his ceremony.
Or so the legend goes, anyways...
|7 weeks 10 hours ago||Did you forget about Blake||
Did you forget about Blake Countess already?
|7 weeks 10 hours ago||I don't know man....James||
I don't know man....James Whitley was pretty stellar in the ol' #5.
(There may not be a Michigan player I've cursed at more than Whitley. I can't remember shit, but vividly remember he was #5)
|7 weeks 11 hours ago||Saved you a click||
Harbaugh: “Size, strength and there could be more,” he said. “We need them. We’ve had offense and defensive linemen graduate, seven starters. We need starter-caliber guys on both sides of the line. So there may be a fifth-year, may be a transfer, we’ll see, we don’t know.”
Sounds like he knows something, but nothing definitive.
|7 weeks 11 hours ago||Gonna guess its better than||
Gonna guess its better than the vapor we currently have slated at tackle.
But seriously though we're so thin at tackle it almost doesn't matter what his PFF grade is. He's a multi-year starter for Cal so it can't be that bad. Certainly better than throwing a true freshman out there.
|7 weeks 16 hours ago||The link to the article says||
The link to the article says it was at East Mississippi Community College, which is the school featured in Last Chance U.
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||Just saying.||
Just saying. I've said that about their losses on DL the last two years in a row. I thought Vic Beasley would be tough to replace. Then Lawson and Dodd had monster seasons. Then I thought it would be impossible to replace those guys, and Watkins and Lawrence stepped up.
Does it look like it'll be tough to replace Watson? Absolutely. But I'm done saying it can't happen with Clemson. Hunter Johnson is a stud QB just like Watson was. And overall, they recruit too well and are too well coached. Much like Alabama -- just to a lesser extent because no one is like Alabama.
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||Yeah, the head-to-head optics||
Yeah, the head-to-head optics against Ohio State don't look like they are going to be great. But, CFB is a wierd sport and anything can happen.
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||Few things bother me more||
Few things bother me more than someone saying "I didn't read the article we're all talking about, but let me share my thoughts on it anyways..."
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||The PSU that played Michigan||
The PSU that played Michigan was much different later in the year
People just remember the defense that faced Michigan that was missing two starting LBs, lost a third to a targeting call, and then saw a RS FR walkon replacement go out with a knee injury.
Those same people will also argue "we totally would have beaten FSU with Jabrill Peppers." Funny how injuries can change a defense and a game.
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||You sure about that?||
You sure about that?
Brady at Michigan: 61.9% completion pct, 7.5 YPA, 2.6:1 TD to INT ratio as a senior, 2.6 INT per 100 passes (2.0 INT per 100 passes his senior season)
Brady in NFL: 63.8% completion pct, 7.5 YPA, 3:1 TD to INT ratio, 1.8 INT per 100 passes
Brady's TD:INT ratio for his career at Michigan was 1.7:1 due to a bad 14 TD, 10 INT junior season, but the QB he was his final season was pretty much the QB he's been for his entire NFL career.
People forget how good Brady was at Michigan. He was a clear notch better than Henson for the two seasons (98-99) they shared snaps. Henson was barely completing more than half of his throws.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||With an entirely unproven||
With an entirely unproven secondary, I wouldn't be super excited about facing an arm punt offense at night on the road.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Again, look at the other||
Again, look at the other teams and tell me where you'd rank them. Lowest I'd rank them is maybe 8th.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||I'd feel better about||
I'd feel better about Oklahoma if they weren't losing all of their offensive weapons. Its nice Baker Mayfield is back for his 8th season of eligibility, but I don't know who he's giving the ball too. OU is losing 2300yds of rushing, and 2000yds of receiving. And given that, I'm not sure how Connelly says 70% of their production is back.
Auburn and OKSt were hot messes at various points of the season, so I'm not super optimistic about them even if they have a good amount returning. Maybe Auburn only because they've recruited well.
As for Clemson, I've done the "they've lost too much" song and dance the last two years in a row. Not doing it again. They're Alabama-lite as far as I'm concerned.
And 100% on Michigan in 2018. I'm going into the 2017 looking at it like a preview season for 2018. If they lose 3-4, that's OK. We'll get 'em in 2018 in the Death Star is fully operational.
|7 weeks 21 hours ago||Same reason people wanted||
Same reason people wanted that bum Tom Brady to lose snaps so Drew Henson could take over.
(This was a real sentitment for those too young to remember.)
|7 weeks 22 hours ago||I was more impressed with||
I was more impressed with their chuck and duck offense than....whatever it was Michigan was trying to do.
|7 weeks 22 hours ago||So where would you rank PSU||
So where would you rank PSU and Michigan? And not just a "feels like they should be #10" type of ranking. Look at the other teams and figure out where you'd slot them.
|7 weeks 22 hours ago||Maybe they looked again at||
Maybe they looked again at what Michigan lost personnel wise. No one else in the top 25 loses anywhere close to the amount that Michigan does. They have 5 returning starters. Next worst is #22 West Virginia with 7, and then #24 Boise State with 11.
|7 weeks 22 hours ago||I think they are about right||
I mean, they do return 16 starters from a pretty good team. The loss of Godwin hurts though. I'd put them behind Washington for sure and maybe behind LSU (who I think is too low). But its tough to say Clemson, OU, OkSt, or Auburn should be ranked higher.
Looking at the rest of the list, I'd have Georgia (17 returning starters) and Stanford (16 returning) ranked higher.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Newborns||
Newborns man. They will mess with your sanity.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||We're all MGoAddicts.||
We're all MGoAddicts.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||That's a nice sentiment and||
That's a nice sentiment and all from Brian, but it should tell you something when a large portion of your community that you rely on for income is choosing an unauthorized app because the one you paid for is shit.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Why even do the book then?||
I can see why the book was a money loser in 2014, but I'm guessing things were much rosier in 2015 or 2016. But if the main business is running a website, why do you guys spend so much time, money, and effort on a single use magazine that's obsolete fairly quickly? Wouldn't it be better to spend all of that energy improving the main business?
For me, the reason I used the app was it was the best user experience for me. If the experience was better on the main site, I'd be more than happy to do most of my reading here.
If the site had the ability to do polls, I'm sure if you put one up asking whether or not people wanted to support HTTV or site upgrades this year, it would slant heavily in favor of upgrades.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Free content||
Content is free on just about every news website outside of AAA ones like WaPo or NYT. The thing that makes the profitable is the symbiotic relationship between the people coming for the content, and the publisher. They run ads on the site based off of user traffic, so even though the content is "free" they are still making money off of it. The valuation for this site is right around $1M. So GTFO here with the "its free" argument.
The reason people are pissed is because we're getting tired of being neglected with a bad user experience. And since we like the content here, we'd like Brian to fix it so the symbiotic relationship can continue. If he doesn't, the user base will eventually move to another site.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Its the only way||
Its the only way to get Brian to actually do something. He's shown he has nary a fuck to give about what the people that actually use his site think and feel about the user experience (there have been plenty of threads discussing this lately with zero feedback from Brian on it) so until either the traffic or the revenue changes, he has no incentive to change anything at all about the site.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I knew I'd get this response||
I knew I'd get this response. I've driven stick and automatic. Stick is a major pain in the ass. Especially if you're in traffic. If you're on open roads and want to feel like a race car driver, sure. Stick is the way to go. But for everyday life? I can't for the life of me imagine why you'd pick the convienence of automatic over manual.
Always gonna be those "I prefer to roast and grind my own coffee beans" people though.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Their focus is absolutely the||
Their focus is absolutely the front page. But whether they realize it or not, the only reason they make money is because of the message boards. I'd bet traffic generated is somewhere in the 20:1 ratio in favor of the message boards. And I wouldn't be surprised if its more in the 50:1 or higher range.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Magnus needs a partner||
I wish Magnus and MGoFish would join forces and provide some competition. Magnus has good insight, and Fish has good recruiting updates. Throw in a better message board layout and I'll happily move over.
Or.....maybe when Scout finishes going under and Sam is cut free, he and Magnus can team up and create a site. That would likely be the nail in the MGoCoffin.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||We're begging to give him money to fix it||
Amongst all of the complaints about the site are also pleas to do a kickstarter or something to raise money to fix the site. They raised $70k for a magazine. If they skipped the mag this year, I think they could easily raise $100k-120k if it went towards a complete overhaul of the site.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Another former heavy MGoBlog||
Another former heavy MGoBlog HD app user here, and I tried going the mobile web route today, and while it does work just fine, its a major hassel. The nonsanctioned app was far and away the best way to use this site.
If you never used it, you don't know what you were missing out on. Kinda like saying "I've always driven a car that had a stick shift and it works just fine for me."
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Even I would say never skip||
Even I would say never skip Taco Tuesday.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||That was one of my favorite||
That was one of my favorite parts. Nothing like posting a comment on the app, having a shadow banned person reply to it, reply to their comment and then check back later on mobile or desktop and see that it looks like you were debating yourself.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Traffic is traffic||
App traffic is a pretty big deal. I work for a very large website and can tell you that desktop vs. mobile/app traffic is about a 50-50 split these days and it keeps tilting more and more towards mobile/app.
For me, the app was the only stable way to access the site in times of high traffic. Desktop is almost completely worthless. So unless he's unveiling increased site traffic capability tomorrow, trying to shift traffic from an unsanctioned app to the site is going to go bad.
I mean, fuck. The fact that we all know the site is going to be shitty tomorrow and virtually unusable is insane. The product is so broken, that the user base just expects it to be a bad experience.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly||
The front page posts aren't what drives the million(s) of montly visits to the site -- its the message board and comment sections. Its the whole reason Brian added them a long time ago. While new front page content only happens 1-3 times a day, you generally get a dozen or two new message board posts, that each have dozens and dozens of comments on them. That the fuel the feeds the MGoBlog engine.
Now, even if like 25% of people were visiting and commenting on the site via the MGoBlog HD app, they were still commenting and driving engagement and encouraging the other 75% to get more engaged which increases traffic.
So its not a net 1:1 tradeoff.
Personally, I'm about a 50-50 HD app vs. desktop user of the site. Now that the HD app is dead, I'm not going to use the old app because its bad. And I'm not going to use the mobile site because that is also a bad experience. So the net result here is that myself and those like me will just visit the site less and be less engaged overall.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I hope you're happy||
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Hmmmm...|
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Mine did too for the first||
Mine did too for the first couple of replies to this thread, but I couldn't post anymore from it after about 4:15 or so.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Nevermind||
EDIT: Nevermind. Originally posted you just needed to update it, but it was officially killed after I posted that.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||"Last updated in 2008"||
"Last updated in 2008"
Just like the website! (ba dum bum)
Best seriously, I love the content here, but the layout and functionality is butt. The HD app was actually the most polished and best way to view the site to me. The ability to collapse entire comment trees was awesome.
And I actually tried to reply to this initially on the HD app, but I guess its functionality was officially killed for me mid post. So, I logged on to the site on my desktop and tried to write my comment again and got about 5-6 502 site offline errors.
And since Brian has already checked in on this thread, I'll say it again and hope he sees it: please update the site. You should either have the money, or could easily raise the money via a kickstarter to do it. This is the only site I go to online that consistently crashes and has an ancient layout and functionality. Given the success of the site, it boggles the mind.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I gave up on the official app||
I gave up on the official app a few years ago. The HD one just looks and works better. Often times better than the site itself. When site traffic is high you can still get in and comment through the HD app. Don't know how well that works on the official app though.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||I think Boise State was just||
I think Boise State was just much, much better at coaching and developing talent than anyone else in the Mountain West. Gave them a better path to 10+ win seasons, and then berths in big bowls. And once they were there, Petersen is every bit as good of a coach -- if not better -- than the Bob Stoops of the world, so with a month to prepare for the game, Boise did very well.
Boise State did recruit a few 4-star level players, and set a few guys to the NFL, but I don't know if the amount of 2/3/4 star guys they sent to the NFL was any better or worse than a typical program.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||They have about 30-40 words||
They have about 30-40 words per player to sum up the entirety of the last decade. Personally I'd rather have the quick snapshot of what happened and where they are now instead of digging into the minutiae of what they did in college.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Man....just eight drafted OL||
Man....just eight drafted OL in 15 years is pretty brutal.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Met him once. Super nice and||
Met him once. Super nice and humble guy.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||If there actually is video||
If there actually is video evidence and the coaches are identifiable, this is exactly what the NCAA needs for them to be able to punish someone. They can really only do something when someone hands them unassailable evidence since they don't have the means to go get the evidence themselves.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||They are like that kid in||
They are like that kid in high school who thought the hottest girl in class wanted him simply because she smiled at him.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah I have no idea why there||
Yeah I have no idea why there was so much optimism surrounding Solomon. He said Alabama was his leader by a lot. Reaffirmed that stance a couple of times after the original quote and yet....people thought he was coming here.
Same goes for Gay and LSU.
|8 weeks 12 hours ago||Carr and beyond||
I'm really not sure of the last coach Michigan had that would've done something like this. Both Hoke and Rodriguez stuck to their systems and refused to change despite not having the personnel to do what they wanted. And Carr was certainly stuck in his ways as well. I didn't follow Michigan football too much before Carr, so I can't really say what they did or didn't do back then.
|8 weeks 12 hours ago||Boo this man.||
Boo this man.
|8 weeks 14 hours ago||It's also kinda comforting to||
It's also kinda comforting to see that Harbaugh knows this and is doing things to adjust ahead of time by hiring Frey and looking to go more spread. Previous coaches would have just said "fuck it, we'll suffer and do it the way I've always done it" and then blame failures on execution.
|8 weeks 14 hours ago||Don't have the bodies or||
Don't have the bodies or talent to push people off the ball, so it's spread 'em out and create mismatches time.
|8 weeks 14 hours ago||Could see a more spread||
Could see a more spread offense being a necessity with the OL the way it is. They simply don't have the bodies to go manball.
|8 weeks 15 hours ago||Nico is going to Georgia this weekend||
Nico just posted on Twitter that he's heading to Georgia this weekend.
So I think that paints a pretty good picture of where he is headed.
|8 weeks 16 hours ago||And Nico Collins is using his||
And Nico Collins is using his last official to Georgia this weekend. Happy Trails, Nico.
|8 weeks 16 hours ago||CB or S||
I'd take a cornerback transfer too since Clark got denied a 6th year. Depth there is young and unproven. Same goes for safety too.
|8 weeks 16 hours ago||Hurd||
I would definitely take Jalen Hurd since he's likely a better and more proven workhorse RB than anyone else we have on the roster. But since he visited Cal last weekend and wants to enroll soon, it seems like that's the most likely destination for him.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||That has never made any sort||
That has never made any sort of sense to me.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||TimBits and a 6er of Labatts:||
TimBits and a 6er of Labatts: the breakfast of champions.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Maybe its different in||
Maybe its different in college athletics, but it just strikes me as a strange relationship.
Like if you were the manager of a department, and your boss said we're going to hire a new guy to be your assistant manager, but he's also going to be my assistant director and we're going to pay him more than you, that would certainly make me do a WTF double take and not be super stoked about my own future.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||USA Today had him at $365k||
USA Today had him at $365k last season. Good for #214 in the country. Which isn't bad for a running backs coach.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Missed the news last week||
Missed the news last week that Canada was going to be making $1.5M/year. Kiffin made $1.4M last season, but no one else is really in that ballpark. USA Today's database had 12 coaches making north of $1M/year last season and the only two offensive coaches making that much (Kiffin and Cam Cameron) are both gone.
Not sure who else is in the $1M offensive assistant pool next season, but Michigan has two of the three I've heard about.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||No buyout either||
Yeah that whole arrangement seems to be an OC in waiting setup designed to put the pressure on Drevno to perform or leave of his own volition. The contract in general is setup to encourage him to leave for a head coaching job.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||In 2018, the three are poised||
In 2018, the three are poised to make $3.75M combined. Fire that money cannon at will.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Still odd though||
I'm not sure how I'd feel about it if I were Drevno though. Michigan brought in a guy who is both above and below him in title, and then paid him more. Like think about how you'd feel if that happened in your workplace?
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Seems like LSU's linebacker||
Seems like LSU's linebacker situation is the same as Michigan's OL situation. They'll gladly take as many high-level recruits as they can.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Not worth it||
Its just not worth it to the IRS to chase amounts that small. Like, Cam Newton for instance. Say they actually did pay him or his father the $180k. And let's also say the IRS gets to tax a third of that, so the amount they are after and bent out of shape over is $60k.
Given the amount of resources you'd need to prove who actually owed the taxes on the money, what the actual amount they owed taxes on was, and the amount of resources it would take to actually get it from them, you'd probably be looking at close to a 1:1 dollars spent to dollars pulled back into the IRS coffers by the time you were done. And maybe not even that good.
All of that is another reason bagmen can do what they do. The NCAA can't go after them because they don't have legal authority, and its just not worth it for the IRS or any branch of the govt to do it either.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I remember back in the late||
I remember back in the late 90's when I was in college, I went to a movie (much to Brian's chagrin, it was The Waterboy) with some friends and we saw the entire Michigan OL roll up to the theater in a fleet of newish large SUVs.
You can believe that they all came from wealthy families that gave them expensive cars, or that they worked hard in the summers and as a HS kid to afford it on their own, or....you can believe that Michigan was like everyone else and their athletes found their way into "a good deal" on a car.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||How?||
How are you going to prove they got 10k though? Can't subpoena bank records. If its cash and there's no paper trail, there's no way to prove anything.
And let's say you win $10k in a high stakes fantasy football league or something with your buddies. Winnings are all cash. You gonna report that to the IRS? There's plenty of things people are "supposed to do" but don't do at all.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||No, it's not that they have||
No, it's not that they have zero interest in stopping it, they have zero power to do so. They don't have the power to go any further than "did you take money?" "No."
They can't subpoena people, can't look into records, or anything. They only time they can do anything is when outside investigators do the ground work for them, or they get someone to randomly snitch. Almost all of their investigations end with the guilty parties simply saying "no" or "I don't know anything."
|8 weeks 2 days ago||I think #2 is the main||
I think #2 is the main reason. For the really talented players, you don't want to get labeled a traitor or looked poorly upon by NFL GMs. So they stay quiet. Plus, snitching about a couple thousand when you're poised to make millions is petty and pointless.
For those that may have taken gifts but won't be heading to the NFL, they stay quiet so they can try and get into the coaching ranks.
Also I think bagmen or whoever only offer gifts to those they think will stay quiet.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||I do wonder how much this||
I do wonder how much this trip will cost. The trip to IMG last season cost $350k. I could see this one pushing $1.5M. Maybe more.
I mean, for reference, a flight on Delta from DTW to Tampa is around $400-500. To go from DTW - Rome is around $1300-1500. And accomdations and transportation in Rome are going to be a whole hell of a lot more than they are in Bradenton, FL.
Not that I have a problem with any of it. Fire that money cannon at will.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||No way||
There's no way either of those networks springs to broadcast a scrimmage from Rome. That's a major league expensive undertaking that they wouldn't come close to making a profit on. ESPN and FOX skimp out on sending crews to lower tier events all the time. And those are the ones they are obligated to broadcast (like the Cal-Hawaii game in Australia to open the season).
Now send a reporter and hire a crew? Ehh....maybe.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Harbaugh just needs to sit on||
Harbaugh just needs to sit on Gay's couch, and then accidentally forget his wallet there. And then accidentally drop his backup money clip in the kitchen. And then accidentally have money stuck to his hands when he shakes the hands of everyone in his family. And then accidentally leave his emergency money roll on the bathroom counter when he mistakenly left it there after washing his sticky hands.
He should really stop being so forgetful. And wash his hands before meeting new people. Totally honest mistakes, NCAA.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||Amen||
The entire message board needs a major overall. Not being able to go back to the second page and beyond has been an issue for years, and the commenting structure is woefully outdated. Even the message board on the app is better because (as I accidentally discovered recently) it allows you to collapse threads.
Its impossible to read a thread sometimes when replies to a single comment turn into an inside joke derails the entire thing. If you could collapse that one comment, it would be a huge improvement.
But alas, we're stuck with an old ass message board. Its far and away the thing that drives the most income for Brian, and its far and away the worst part about the site.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I'm far from an expert. Just||
I'm far from an expert. Just a dude looking at a depth chart and previous recruiting classes and putting two and two together. And I'm fairly certain if you asked Harbaugh if he wished he would have recruited more OL in 2015 or 2016, he'd say yes.
Doesn't take an expert to see that.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Considering the 2017 OL will||
Considering the 2017 OL will have 1 upperclassman starter, and will likely be starting another true freshman (or maybe two), yeah....I'm sure Jim is equally annoyed with the way 2016 (and to a lesser extent, 2015) OL recruiting went.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Yeah, that's why the 2016 OL||
Yeah, that's why the 2016 OL class has me annoyed. There is so little depth on the OL that they are 2 injuries away from total disaster. Only grabbing 3 guys each of the last two years was bad. You can pin some of the OL depth/talent issues on Hoke, but Harbaugh shares responsibility in that now too.
The number of freshman and sophomores that are going to be populating the starting lineup on the OL the next few years is crazy.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||1 year is plenty of time to||
1 year is plenty of time to develop a relationship with a recruit. So that's not an excuse. If this team can't beat Ohio State, or can't reach and/or win a Big Ten champhionship, or can't get to the playoff in the next couple of years, it'll be because of the OL.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I wouldn't call last year's||
I wouldn't call last year's class solid. It had two potentially good guys in it, plus a flier on a third. Given the depth and talent issues on the OL, that 2016 class should have had like 6 guys in it. And its contributing to Hoke's OL recruiting woes much more than it is fixing it.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Wonder how much of it is||
Wonder how much of it is being able to sell results. Looking at it from the recruit's perspective, Michigan hasn't been a good school for offensive linemen for pretty much most of their life, and Harbaugh's success at Stanford was almost half a life time ago for the guys he's recruiting.
Would be pretty easy for other coaches to negatively recruit Michigan and Harbaugh's offensive line development. As crazy as that may sound.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Becton is trending pretty||
Becton is trending pretty heavily to Va. Tech. And I don't think there are many other targets that they are in on. Will likely just be Ruiz, Filiaga, Hall, Honigford, and Stuber at this point. Maybe they take a flier on some random, but that's probably it.
Not great, Bob.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Landing two top guys a year||
Landing two top guys a year is borderline fine when you have established OL depth and talent. Michigan hasn't been anywhere close to either for a long time. At least when it comes to being a top playoff contender.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||You can find ways to ccover||
You can find ways to ccover for a bad DL, but there's no way to cover for a bad OL. And since the name of the game is scoring points, bad OL tops bad DL to me.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Wanna know the sad truth?||
The sad truth is that losing to Ohio State is SOOOOO normal at this point (2 wins in 16 years). So its tough to be disappointed when normal happens.
Like, when I typed out my OL disappointment comment, that was legit the only thing I could think of that I was disappointed about. The fact that he's 0-2 vs. Ohio State didn't even cross my mind. Its so expected it doesn't even register as a failure.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||That too||
To me, that's a byproduct of bad OL recruiting and development. They didn't achieve their goals this year because the OL was the weak spot of the team. If they don't achieve them the next few years it'll be for the same reason.
This is the third OL class Harbaugh has had his hands on (yes I'm aware the first one was on short notice), and despite it being the giant flashing neon sign of doom for this team every year for the last decade (as others have said), this class is the first one they've gotten serious about.
To me, the 2016 OL class was an utter disaster. By then they should have been well aware what state the OL was in, and how tenuous the depth was, but they went out and recruited a whole 2 linemen (Bredeson and Onwenu) that were regarded, plus a flier on a third.
Three fucking linemen when they knew damn well what kind of shit shape the OL would be in for 2017 and beyond. Yes they lost out on Hamilton just before signing day, but four ain't a whole lot better than three, and when you absolutely need contributors maybe don't put all your eggs in the basket of a kid that's not 100% sold on your school.
The fact that they are recruiting guys that they hope can step into the starting lineup on the OL is a Harbaugh problem, and not a Hoke problem at this point.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Michigan's OL recruiting||
Michigan's OL recruiting continues to be the most (and only) frustrating part of the Harbaugh era.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Only advantage I could see||
Only advantage I could see would be if it helps with some sort of round robin or tiered/flex scheduling concept in the Big Ten.
If moving OSU-Mich off of the last weekend of the season makes for a better overall schedule, I'd be all for moving it.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Screw it, unleash the bagmen||
I'm with Brian's plan:
Unleash the bagmen. The NCAA doesn't give a shit about them, so why should anyone else? And Michigan has more money than just about everyone. If the SEC wants to bring piss to a shit fight, let 'em.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Hart hasn't done shit. I'll||
Hart hasn't done shit. I'll take a hard pass on him in favor of someone that's actually done and proven something.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||Was just thinking about this||
Was just thinking about this the other day on some other thread about the various ranking services. Think it was regarding the ranking of Trey Smith (top 5 to both 247 and ESPN, 30-50 to Rivals and Scout). My feeling was 247 and ESPN had been more accurate as of late and Scout and Rivals had been more scattershot with their hits and misses.
In general, it feels like its tough to trust Scout's rankings at all with all of the upheaval over there. Trust individual reporters...but the scouts as a whole? Yeah, maybe not.
|9 weeks 20 hours ago||People shit on ESPN for||
People shit on ESPN for everything. My favorite is when people bitch about them losing talent, when the talent they've lost (Cowherd, Bayless, Simmons) are people generally everyone loathes. Tirico is the only one who was any good who left recently, and he upgraded. So tough to fault anyone for that.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Last one I can think of that||
Last one I can think of that was similar was Derrick Green. ESPN had him at 38 and 247 had him at 83. Both Rivals and Scout had him at 8th overall.
Splits are similar on this one. 247 and ESPN have him top 5, Scout and Rivals have him at 29 and 49.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||ESPN still has a pretty heavy||
ESPN still has a pretty heavy scouting presence there. Luginbill and Haubert are there watching everything the same as the other scouting services.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Just playing devil's advocate||
Just playing devil's advocate. Personally, I think it would be way too petty of a move to push him out for something like that. But if Harbaugh really did want him out, that's the only plausible reason I can come up with. Everything else Wheatley has done has been excellent.
But I do think Nico is long gone. This feels like a Laquon Treadwell recruitment to me. Lots of visits early, lots of talk about Michigan early, Michigan is the presumed favorite early, yet no committment which makes you wonder if he's holding out for...."more."
And we all know Georiga seems to be offering "more" these days.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Isn't that an indictment of||
Isn't that an indictment of Fisch though? Like if Harbaugh was annoyed enough to strip Fisch of playcalling duties and hand them to Drevno, that's not a good look for Fisch. Not really a ringing endorsement for Drevno either considering some of the play calling beef people (myself included) had.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah, I honestly don't buy my||
Yeah, I honestly don't buy my own theory either. More of a playing devil's advocate kinda thing. Like if someone is going to swoop in and offer "perks" WTF can you do? And pushing out one of your top recruiters because he got blindsided by bagman antics, doesn't seem like a path to sustained success no matter how peeved you are.
The Wheatley thing just feels more like a mutual breakup. I could see Ty being tired of the bagman antics himself, tired of Harbaugh's grinding offseason schedule, and just ready for a change. But outside of my devil's advocate theory, I'm not really sure what Harbaugh's particular breakup beef would be though.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Unless he sent him down on a||
Unless he sent him down on a "fix it now" mission and he wasn't able to fix it.
Mostly just playing devil's advocate with the whole "he was pushed out because of recruiting failures" notion, but its an interesting thought. At least to me.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Mentioned this before, but I||
Mentioned this before, but I wonder how much getting burned hard on guys like Devery Hamilton, Isaiah Wilson, and presumably Nico Collins just pissed Harbaugh off to no end. Nico and Wilson were both Wheatley guys. I don't think he was the guy for Hamilton, but that was a bad last second flip too.
For Wheatley, to lead for so long on a guy, to then get blindsided is a bad look for any recruiter -- whether its football or any other walk of life. Like imagine telling your boss you had a multimillion dollar deal key to the future of your company locked up, fed him glowing reports for a year, and then have that client switch to someone who had very little contact with them at the last possible second. And if you were also an employee that bitched publicly about having to go on a company mandated retreat/training or something...yeah it might be time to look for another job. Even if you were very succesful with other accounts/recruits.
As for Fisch...who knows. The passing game was pretty mediocre this year. Not a lot of creativity or great usage for any of the WR/TEs. Maybe it was time for a change.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Salty burgers go nicely with||
Salty burgers go nicely with cold brews.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||LOL, what?||
|9 weeks 2 days ago||He's announcing on ESPN on||
He's announcing on ESPN on signing day.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Just like he told Isaiah||
Just like he told Isaiah Wilson to commit to Georgia. All part of the plan....right?
|9 weeks 2 days ago||This made me chuckle. I'm||
This made me chuckle. I'm envisioning you as DCGrad's evil Kermit.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||No, but having Wheatley,||
No, but having Wheatley, Nico's primary recruiter, heading off to Jacksonville shortly after Nico had a surge of interest in Georgia certainly has a large affect.
If he was trending Georgia before Wheatley left, I'd say that's a pretty bad sign. Going to be tough to hold on, or make up ground on Georgia with a new primary recruiter a few weeks before signing day.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Me too||
This is the type of guy Michigan needs -- and has needed for a decade+. If you can find and develop excellent running backs at Indiana, you can find them anywhere. And give him the Michigan brand to recruit behind, and I'm sure he'd be fine.
Hell, if the 10th assistant legislation passes as expected you could hire both McCullough and Wilcher.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Recruiting?||
I wonder how much of this is recruiting related. As in Harbaugh was unhappy with Wheatley's recruiting efforts. I know he was the primary guy on a lot of the Detroit area guys, but he was also the primary recruiter for Isaiah Wilson and for Nico Collins. Can't remember if he was the guy for Devery Hamilton or not.
Or maybe Ty himself has had enough of recruiting bullshit and wants to go back to the pros. That would make even more sense.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Hurts with Nico, though||
No, but it does probably hurt the Wolverines' fading chances with Nico Collins. Wheatley was Nico's primary contact and recruiter.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Guessing that was more of a||
Guessing that was more of a courtesy. Guy had been at Oregon for 33 years. Better to allow him to "retire" than fire him. Or maybe he's really done. Who knows. Worth a call at least.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Thomas Wilcher||
Could also see Harbaugh grabbing Thomas Wilcher from Cass Tech and making him the RBs coach. Especially since it was rumored he was joining the staff earlier today. Wilcher was an RB in college and played with Harbaugh. But given Patridge's path to position coach, I'm not sure if its Harbaugh's MO to have a guy go straight from HS to college. Maybe he "redshirts" guys as analysts before promoting them. Or maybe that was just a unique situation with CP.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||Gary Campbell?||
What about someone like Gary Campbell? Little on the older side (he's 65), but he did a hell of a job with Oregon's running backs over the years. He's also available since Taggart canned everyone on Oregon's staff.
Also, he dresses like a pimp.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||He hasn't exactly been a fast||
He hasn't exactly been a fast riser in the coaching ranks and I have no idea how he is as a recruiter. My guess is he's not elite in that level because if he was, he'd be someplace other than Syracuse.
Personally I'd rather hire someone that's an ace recruiter with an eye for talent.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||If it makes you feel better,||
If it makes you feel better, Alabama is going to have Damien Harris, Najee Harris, and Bo Scarborough in the backfield next year and it's going to be really really hard for fans to pick which is their favorite. Like super hard, guys.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||That feels like the winner to||
That feels like the winner to me. Worst decommit needs to sting both on timing and on quality. Jai checks both of those boxes.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||Damien Harris is pretty good.||
Damien Harris is pretty good. Had 145 carries for 1040 USA for Bama this season.