Mike Lantry, 1972
|1 day 19 hours ago||No way||
No just wants to leave an $800K a year job.
|1 day 21 hours ago||He needs one good skill||
I agree with the guy above, a 3pt shot is the last of GRIII's worries. He needs to develop one great to excellent skill to survive in the NBA. Currently he has none. Given his outstanding athleticism, focusing on defense and/or rebounding would be a good place to start.
|2 days 15 hours ago||This might be my favorite mgoblog comment of all time.||
This might be my favorite mgoblog comment of all time.
|2 days 15 hours ago||Probably right||
You're probably right. Just wondering why break things up if you didn't have to. Just seems odd to me. Just push the spring game back a week or two and then everything will be fine.
|2 days 16 hours ago||I'd disagree||
Anytime you're learning new stuff, its best to keep repeating it and building on it. By having a long break in between, you're going to have to spend a lot of practice three and four reteaching what you did the first two days.
Think about your own spring breaks. It takes a little bit to remember what the hell was going on before you left. And having grown up around teachers, I know that they always complained that the days before a break were a waste because the kids don't remember what you were teaching them when they come back from break.
|2 days 16 hours ago||Cool idea Dave Brandon||
Maybe we can put a giant noodle outside too, and then fly a plane over IU's campus dragging a banner that says "Suck It Losers #GoBlue #NotRed #LOLOLOL"
|2 days 16 hours ago||Why break it up like that?||
What's the point in breaking up practice like that? Seems like a waste of two days of practice.
|3 days 14 hours ago||Pennsylvania is gonna be tough now||
Recruiting kids out of Pennsylvania is going to be pretty tough with Franklin there now.
|4 days 22 hours ago||I think recruits will start to question him||
Given the last two years, I think recruits will start to question signing up to play for Cal. The teams have underperformed and I don't know if any of the players have gotten much better. Out of 2013's supposed "best recruiting class ever" only three of the five are projected first rounders, and only one is lottery bound. If you're a one and done player, that's not exactly the results you're looking for.
|1 week 18 hours ago||Oh man, the quotes||
Read the front page after doing this, and the Devin Gardner "quote" from today is priceless:
"Practices is straight-up fast, we git a shitload of reps. This was probably tha fastest practice I've eva been a part of ... I feel like, up in dis biatch, there be a a shitload of juice up in practice. I be aiiight wit dat shit. ... Coach Nuss definitely pushes tempo, make shizzle we git ta tha bizzle fast, git tha calls out, do every last muthafuckin thang you need ta do n' then git tha bizzle hiked. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Dat punk pushin dat all muthafuckin day. It make me wanna hollar playa! And sometimes our laid-back asses just go hurry-up ta git mo' reps."
Nick Saban and Brett Bielema are definitely not a fan of makin shizzle ya git ta tha bizzle fast..
|1 week 2 days ago||OMG!!!||
HE'S GAINED TWO LBS IN TWO WEEKS!! IS HE GOING TO BE 250 BY FALL?? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?!?
|1 week 3 days ago||Still impressive though||
Say what you will about his motivations, what he's been able to do takes a whole hell of a lot more dedication than most people put into things. He's been grinding on this for a long time, and for one dude has made a good amount of progress. That's what I find impressive. Most people when going up against large entities usually acquiesce.
Side note, Arrogant Bastard beer is delicious.
|1 week 3 days ago||Championship team recruiting||
Good post. The only thing I'd disagree with is Michigan not taking players that can contribute to a championship team. Michigan needs to take any and all players that can contribute to any sort of team. If that means you take some three stars you can coach up instead of swinging and missing on 5-stars do it.
They need to focus on winning their division first, and then they can worry about winning conference championships. Doing anything else is being tone deaf to their own situation. Don't set a goal of being president of the company when you're a mid-level manager. Maybe aim for being head of your department first.
|1 week 3 days ago||Supposedly came from Hoke though||
It sounds dumb as you and many others have suggested (and I would agree), but Harris was apparently told by the coaches that they are only taking one RB in this class. And since he's holding out until signing day to make a decision now, if Michigan wants Harris, they either have to tell him something different about their RB situation, or wait for an all or nothing situation with him.
I don't think they can afford to wait. You absolutely need one RB in this class. At least. So if Weber or someone else good wants to commit, then you have to take that commitment and hope you can convince Harris to be part of a two RB class.
The whole just clarifies what an absolute fuck up the last six months of recruiting have been for Michigan.
|1 week 3 days ago||That's what I'm wondering||
That's what I'm wondering too. How does Title IX factor into something like this? The only thing I can figure is that maybe it has something to do with this part:
(3) subjecting any person to separate or different rules of behavior, sanctions, or treatment, including rules pertaining to appearance;
If Gibbons got different treatment and punishment because he was a football player, then you do have a Title IX argument.
|1 week 3 days ago||Doubtful||
Given the way the NCAA punishes people (like Penn State and Miami) it would be the current staff. And since Gibbons played three of his four years under Hoke, if (big IF here by the way) they find evidence that there was some sort of discouragement it very well could have come from the Hoke era football dept. But again, big, big IF there.
|1 week 3 days ago||Its Doug Smith (Washtenaw Watch Dog)||
Doug Smith is out for blood. Both of the complaints that the feds are investigating were made by him. Gotta give the dude some credit. He's gone full V for vendetta on Michigan here. Kudos for having the balls to go up against a massive instituion.
|1 week 3 days ago||Maybe?||
Depends on what they find. They are basically looking into whether or not Michigan properly responded to the original allegation and why the hell it took four years to do something about it. If they find that Michigan didn't respond in a timely fashion, and then can find evidence that the reason they didn't was because of pressure from the football program, then things could be very, very bad.
But, that's a lot of ifs.
|1 week 3 days ago||Title IX||
Looks like it has to do with Title IX. Not really sure how that factors into something like this, but there was a Title IX complaint that prompted the feds looking into things.
Jim Bradshaw, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Education, confirmed Tuesday morning that the Office for Civil Rights is investigating a Title IX complaint involving U-M.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140225/SCHOOLS/302250059#ixzz2uM2bwJaS
|1 week 3 days ago||It's been six long months||
Its been six long months since Michigan got a 2014 or 2015 commitment (2016 OL Swenson committed 11/25). That's an eternity in recruiting. And the lack of a backup plan to either Hand or McDowell (two very hard to read recruits) was just naive by the staff.
Supposedly they've told Damien Harris that they are taking only one back in this class, and since he's not announcing until signing day, it could be another all or nothing year at a crucial position.
|1 week 5 days ago||No camping until its sponsored||
Camping out will not be allowed until it is sponsored. Your "Cabela's Pregame Campout, brought to you by Kingsford Charcoal."
Only then will you be allowed to campout ahead of time.
|1 week 5 days ago||No kidding||
I remember getting up for those noon football games was a serious chore some weekends. Especially after a late Friday night. If I had to wake up at nine or hell, even 10 to go stand in a line for a couple of hours, I'd say fuck that. BBQ on the deck with some beers and College Gameday sounds like a much better alternative.
|1 week 5 days ago||Um....sports?||
Never been to a meeting or anything, but I would imagine a group dedicated to watching basketball probably spends a fair amount of time at their meeting talking about the team. Which to my old, married, kid-raising, job-having ass sounds like a pretty solid way to spend an hour a week.
And frankly, its smart that a group of fans has taken the time to organize themselves. By doing so, they create an advantage of numbers; they can create a plan of action and ensure they get the majority of the best seats.
Strength in numbers is smart. Maybe dickish, but smart.
|1 week 5 days ago||Procedure is clear||
The procedure is clear, but when you have an arbitrary time to line up (like 7) and you and a bunch of other people get there at say 6:30 waiting in some sort of line to get in the official line, you're going to have problems. And there's no good way around it without someone getting screwed.
Its very similar to waiting for a bus or subway at a crowded stop. There's no official line until the bus/train shows up. And then its a mad scramble. You basically have to guess where the line is going to be and hope you're right.
|1 week 5 days ago||No good way to lineup for arbitrary line up times||
You're never going to get around situations like this. If you tell people to line up at 7am, you're going to have a group of people there's ahead of time (in a line) waiting to get in line. Then when it's officially time to line up, you're going to have a bullrush situation. You probably need to institute your own line up/armband situation.
|1 week 6 days ago||Greg Robinson||
Greg Robinson from Auburn ran a 4.92 at 322 lbs and Trai Turner from LSU ran a 4.93. Robinson will most likely be the top OT taken.
|1 week 6 days ago||Doubtful||
If Michigan fails next season it will most likely be because the offense couldn't get it together. So it would be odd to promote the OC to head coach. If you're going to go through the trouble of firing your head coach, its best to go with the clean slate and can everyone.
|1 week 6 days ago||Pretty realistic, but...||
8-5 or 9-4 is pretty realistic for next season. 8-4 means that we missed a bowl game somehow. So yeah, I'd probably complain about that.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You better believe that's a paddlin'||
"Talking out of turn? That's a paddlin'. Lookin' out the window? That's a paddlin'. Staring at my sandals? That's a paddlin'. Paddlin' the school canoe? Oh, you better believe that's a paddlin'."
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Its hard to be worse||
Considering they were one of the worst OLs in all of CFB, there's really no where to go but up. But in all likelihood, they will simply go from being abysmal to just bad.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||No freshman good enough to play either||
Michigan also doesn't have any freshman in this class good enough to play as true freshman.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Game experience||
Is game experience really a benefit to the OL? It was all awful experience. The kind that should give them nightmares. If you're a young MMA fighter that's gotten beaten to within an inch of his life in a few outings in the ring, does that experience make you any better than someone that's never been in the ring? Or say you were an "experienced" architect that's had 4 of his 12 buildings collapse. If anything, I would think that experience would make you worse since your confidence would be super low and you'd be expecting bad things to happen.
Developing/rebuilding some sort of confidence is going to be job #1 for this OL in the offseason.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||No RBs last class was dumb||
No RBs last class was dumb.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Well...||
Now we can all say Brady Hoke is well endowed.
(I'll see myself out)
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||Lawyers would back them up||
You don't publish a national article writing the phrase "alleged rape" without going through several layers of lawyers and having them sign off on that phrasing. Otherwise SI opens themselves up to a big ol' lawsuit.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||Completely agree||
Its not just a PR issue. But the way they handled it has turned what may well be a simple issue (the factrs of the story, not the sexual assualt) into something that looks like they are covering something up. And that is what's prompting people like SI (and most likely HBO, Yahoo, or ESPN's invesitagtive units) to look into it.
Any competent PR outfit would have realized this was an issue, gotten in front of the story, and ended it right then and there. Instead, due to a combination of arrogance and incompetence...here we are.
Personally, I hope this results in some sweeping changes on the PR side of things for Michigan.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||You people drive me nuts||
A) Writers don't make headlines. Editors do. So the headlines on Chantel or any writers's stories aren't their doing. So stop blaming them for them. B) Every single news outlet writes and creates headlines aimed at trying to get you read that content. It's the whole point of news coverage. ESPN, Fox, CNN, The New York Times, etc, etc. They all do it. This is even more so the case online when there are millions of things for you to look at and read.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||It's what's all journalists do||
It's what all journalists do. At least the ones that like having jobs and making money. The whole point of writing is to get people to read it. Headlines are what drive people to the stories.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Its a tough decision. Disagree on development||
Its a tough choice. Look at McGary. Was probably a lottery pick last season, and this season he's maybe a second rounder. Maybe. Considering his age and back issues, its doubtful he returns to the lottery range.
But the thing people get wrong is that if you aren't 7 feet tall, the NBA is definitely not a development league. And you have to have at least one skill to start with so that you can improve enough make it on the roster in year two. There's only 390 active roster spots in the NBA, and every year at least 7% of the league is out of a job due to 30 new 1st rounders with their guaranteed contracts coming in.
So if you come in needing a lot of work, you'd better hope you can improve enough to avoid getting cut in year two or three. Darius Morris is a good example of this. Like GRIII he was projected as a fringe first rounder, a guy that needed some work, and a guy that should probably go back for another year. Now he's in the "signed to a 10 day contract" limbo range of the NBA, and will probably be out of the league for good next season.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Redick was phenomenal in college||
Time clouds the memory, but JJ Redick was on another level in college. Especially his senior year. Dude averaged almost 27 ppg with every team gunning for him. So I respectfully disagree that Nik has a better offensive game. And their NBA ceilings are pretty much the same -- designated 3pt guy.
And to the original point, Nik would be better served to spend another year in college working on his game. He's disappeared at times when teams have turned up the defense. Another year would do him good. It worked for Redick.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Jason Richardson||
Jason Richardson was a pretty solid pro. Twelve seasons averaging 17 ppg and 5 rpg is nothing to sneeze at. If Harris can do better than that, God bless him. And as someone else mentioned, Zach Randolph has been really good too -- 17ppg and 9rpg for his career.
But I get your point. Both of those guys played 12 years ago in college, and its been slim pickings for Spartan NBA talent since then.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Are you kidding???||
No way in hell man. I mean it may just be a poor example of a rebounder, or you may have forgotten just how good Rodman was, but GRIII is and never will be anywhere close to Rodman. Rodman was an absolute freak rebounder, and I doubt we ever see anyone like him again in the NBA. GRIII is currently averaging 1 rebound for every 7 minutes he plays. That's fourth best on the team behind McGary, Horford, and Morgan. LeVert is slightly worse at one rebound every 7.5 minutes.
For his NBA career, Rodman grabbed one board every 2.4 minutes. At his best, it was one per 2.1 minutes. Not even your best 7 footers in the NBA come close to that. DeAndre Jordan is having one of the better rebounding seasons in a while, and is only pulling them down at a 2.5 RPM rate. Dwight Howard is at 2.8 RPM for his career.
In college, Rodman averaged 15 boards a game -- GRIII is around 5 a game for his career. So no offense, but taking GRIII where he's at now and expecting even a poor man's version of Rodman is absurd.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Kwame and Bynum were 7 footers||
Kwame and Bynum were 7 footers and coordinated. That's a valubale commodity in the NBA. Those types of people don't grow on trees and will always be given second, third, and fourth chances in the NBA and will therefore have a chance to earn a ton of money.
6' 6" tweeners are a dime a dozen and get one shot before NBA teams move on to someone else.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||He needs a go to skill||
I've said this before, but GRIII needs to develop some sort of go to skill. Guys like Stauskas have elite level shooting, Burke has excellent PG skills, Mitch has hustle and good hands. Glenn has...good dunks. Athleticism doesn't get you anywhere in the NBA because everyone is a freak athlete. He needs to develop a shot, some rebouding, elite defending...anything really.
The NBA isn't a place where you develop skills. Either you have something from the get go and get better at it, or you're buried on the bench and replaced by the next freak athlete in 1-2 seasons.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||You need at least one skill to survive||
You need at least one go to skill to survive in the NBA. Shooting, rebounding, passing, defense, hustle, etc. Something that when all else fails, you can fall back on. GRIII has none of those. He's got the athleticism and build to make scouts drool, but that's about it.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||It's the same thing.||
Oh please yourself. An open head wound is a cut.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Had an open head wound||
The guard had an open head wound and something else I can't remember. A concussion maybe? The article I read said he's still recovering, so it sounds like he was injured good enough.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Tried as an adult||
He's being tried as an adult. Do that whole youth thing (on my phone and can't remember what you called it) still work for something like this?
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Doubt it||
Doubt he's going to college. Jail, yes. College, no. Even if he goes to jail for 6 months, no college will touch him.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Don't know what you've got till its gone?||
Maybe it was a case of don't know what you've got until its gone. Maybe the NHL got a lot of "man...I miss hockey" votes that year.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Don't forget||
Don't forget the subject "my thoughts" as well.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Dude....||
Dude, it's February. This has been rehashed a million times both during and after the season. Football season is a long ways a way and things aren't going to change. The offensive line will be somewhere between awful and maybe not so terrible. Adapt and deal with it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||But why is it wrong?||
Here's what I want to know, and no one has been able to answer so far: why do we have this "pact" where its OK for fans to verbally assault players, and they can NEVER cross into the stands and defend themselves do to some imaginary taboo boundary?
You say its "never OK for a player to cross the line into the stands." Why? Smart was already in the stands because that's where the play took him. And if a fan is shouting racist things at him two feet from his face (hell, it doens't even have to be racist it could be any unacceptable insult), he can't do anything about it....why? Why? Why is it forbidden?
And personally, that fan -- not Smart -- is lucky things didn't get out of hand.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||What video did you watch?||
What video did you watch? He was about a foot from the old white guy's face and looking directly at him.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Exactly||
Exactly. Everyone will be wringing their hands over how deplorable Smart's actions were, but probably nothing will happen to the fan. And he'll go to another game and continue to yell things at the athletes/teenage kids. And considering that he's down on the baseline, you know there's security down there, and they probably have a very good idea of what this guy says.
So I'm with you. Ban this guy from campus. There has to be a limit to what fans can say and do, and when they cross that limit, there needs to be consequences.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||My favorite part of the brawl||
My favorite part of the brawl was seeing all of those cocky fans run on to the court looking for a fight, and then seeing the look of terror when they realized just now big an NBA player is. On the court, a 6-5, 260 lb guy can look small by comparison. But next to your average 5' 9" loud mouth? Huge. And not the kind of person you want to be getting into a fight with.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Why?||
Why is it unacceptable to retaliate? Why do we have this mindset where athletes are somehow not allowed to stand up for themselves in the face of some loud mouthed asshole in the stands? Just because you bought a ticket, that doesn't mean you have rights to act like a fool with out consequence.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Would it?||
Honestly, I think sports would be much better if fans had the same common sense and respect for people in the arena that they do on the streets or in the office. In the real world if you talk shit to someone there's a very real chance that there's going to be repercussions. Somehow we've gotten to the point as a society where just because you paid $75 for a ticket that gives you the right to say the most vile stuff about someone you don't even know without any sort of consequence.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Not really||
Mallett was more of a mutual parting of ways than a homesickness issue. Michigan was going to a spread system under Rich Rod and as a tall statue QB, he didn't fit in that offense.
McGuffie (if I remember right) was more medical related than anything. He had a ton of concussion problems at Michigan, and I think that played a role in his transfer as well.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Texas. Gonna be hard to pull him||
He's from Texas. Its going to be really hard to pull him from the state of Texas. His brother is currently a student at A&M. He's visiting there this weekend, and also has interest in Texas Tech. And I'm sure Baylor and Texas will be after him hard too.
Its nice to make the top ten, but this is a real long shot.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I hope he goes pro||
I hope he goes pro. He's one of the most lackadaisical players I've ever seen. I'd take someone -- anyone -- with an ounce of heart over him any day of the week.
|4 weeks 12 hours ago||In need of some grammar and English lessons||
In need of some grammar and English lessons. Oh wait, that's just you. Not the basketball team.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Nuss was being encouraged to look around||
Nuss was being encouraged to look around at Alabama since Saban wanted to bring in Kiffin. That rumor was going around a few days before the Nussmeier hire. Michigan wound up being a perfect landing spot for him. If he turns around Michigan's offense and Michigan starts winning 10+ games a season, then he's as hot as of a head coaching candidate as there is.
And if things go awry at Michigan and he and the rest of the staff are out of a job in a year or two, he'd still be able to land a good OC position elsewhere as the failures at Michigan would be seen as Hoke's fault and not his.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||This year = make it or break it||
That's why this year is a make it or break it year for Hoke. The young roster thing is the only excuse left, and that goes away this season. If he can't get it done this season, then its doubtful he gets it done anytime.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Brandon/MSC have control over the info||
Brandon and MSC have control over the information and how that gets relayed to the public. They have absolutely botched this entire thing from a PR standpoint. That part isn't Hoke's fault. But with the way they've handled it and left it up to Hoke to try and deliver half-truths about what's going on, its painted him in a bad light.
This whole Gibbons thing is an absolute fuckup from the university and athletic department's standpoint. They've taken a simple thing and turned it into a PR disaster, and as head of the football program, Hoke has become the fall guy for it.
|4 weeks 14 hours ago||Jeff Jones||
Jeff Jones is a good example of this. They dropped him because he hadn't qualified yet. But what's the harm in taking a commitment from him, and if he qualifies at a later date, then all is well. And if not, then he and the university move on. And most likely, there's still room at a Minnesota or wherever.
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||Amen||
To me this is the entire issue with the Gibbons thing. That Michigan is so completely inept at dealing with the public and relating what is actually going on is mind blowing. The Gibbons thing probably isn't much of anything shady but Michigan keeps fucking up the message so badly it looks as if something shady is happening. They are essentially a multi billion dollar company and they have the PR acumen of a garage band. It defies explanation.
|4 weeks 19 hours ago||FSU didn't bungle the PR though||
Oh plently of people cared about Winston. That was a major story. But FSU was upfront about it the entire time, and didn't completely botch the PR side of their sexual assualt issue like Michigan has. They appear to have actual adults working in their PR department.
And unfortunately, it looks like its tough cookies for both victims here. College sports y'all.
|4 weeks 20 hours ago||NBC is showing...Days of Our Lives||
NBC is showing Days of Our Lives. Because god forbid someone misses that instead of the Olympic Opening Ceremony.
|4 weeks 20 hours ago||Brames Branklin||
I believe the coach in question's name rhymes with Brames Branklin. If you remember right, Peppers was considering Penn State at one point in time.
Unfortunately for Michigan, this Gibbons thing isn't going to die and go away quietly.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Written statements are worthless||
Written statements are worthless. Its a cop out way of dealing with something. For grown up issues, and grown up responses, you need to ask people questions in person. Only cowards release statements and then try and hide behind them.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan is colossally stupid when it comes to PR||
Michigan is colossally stupid when it comes to PR. They honestly need to fire everyone associated with public relations in that athletic department and hire people that know how to operate in the 21st century.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||All recruits under 21 need a parent to sign||
Unless the language of the NLI has changed in the last few years, all recruits under 21 have to have a parent/guardian sign.
You can see a copy of the 2010-11 NLI: HERE
|4 weeks 4 days ago||The NLI is just odd||
The NLI as a whole is just odd. You're not required to sign it, yet nearly everyone does. In theory, its supposed to act as a contract. You agree to play for a school, and they agree to give you a scholarship as long as you stay out of jail, keep your grades up, etc before enrolling.
Yet, there's been many cases where a recruit has signed an NLI, but then been refused admission even though they kept up their end of the bargain. LSU did this to a recruit a few years ago. Technically, the kid could sue the school for breaking the contract. But, by doing so they'd also be forfeiting the majority of their athletic career, not to mention spend a couple of years without a college education while the case dragged out in court. So they (like the kid from LSU), just scramble and find another school that will give them a scholarship.
So basically, all of these kids voluntarily sign one-way contracts that the school can break without repercussion at anytime. It, like the majority of college athletics, is a crock.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||UCLA||
I'm always kind of amazed that UCLA doesn't pull in more top recruits. That's such an awesome campus, and the SoCal girls ain't half bad either.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||They are easily influenced||
As young impressionable kids, they are easily influenced. So just because they grew up liking one thing, it doesn't mean they'll go with that in the end. And often, the thing they grew up liking was the only thing they really knew. The recruiting process opens up their mind to newer possibilities.
I grew up a huge Michigan fan, and wound up going to Michigan. But if I was a highly recruited athlete and had the chance to go to some other places like UCLA (awesome campus), Texas (great town), or pretty much any southern school (the women) there's a really good chance I'd have gone elsewhere.
You can always visit home and enjoy the things you loved as a kid. But you can't always go someplace new and different.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I think nine is doable||
I think 9 wins is a realistic goal. 10 is stretching it. But for a program that's only had two double digit wins seasons in the last decade, 10 or more wins would be REALLY welcome. Mediocrity is becoming rather routine and depressing.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||No||
No. This is akin to can you have too much money.
|5 weeks 15 hours ago||And you're a fool||
And you're a damn fool if you don't think that every reporter there isn't going to pepper Hoke with question after question about it. None of those reporters care about signing day. The class has been set for six months. But this Gibbons story? That's something new and juicy. Now does Hoke have to answer their questions? No. But if he refuses or if they ask him enough and he gets feisty about and channels his inner Lloyd Carr and snaps at them, that's going to make things worse.
Hoke and Michigan's best play here is to offer a statement about it and hope that kills the story then and there. Refusing to answer is only going to add fuel to the fire that they are covering something up.
|5 weeks 16 hours ago||Sometimes, "no comment" is news||
Sometimes though, "no comment" is still news. Or in the words of Drew Rosenhaus "NEXT QUESTION" Regardless of what everyone on here thinks, this is a juicy story waiting to be cracked open. There will be several questions about it, and the story isn't going away anytime soon because you'd better believe the FOIA requests have already started.
|5 weeks 16 hours ago||That's fundamental news though||
It has nothing to do with clicks. Its fundamental news coverage. You cover and report on issues and topics that people are going to care about. The fact that people click/read/watch the story means you're covering what people want to know more about.
Not everything is some insane media conspiracy.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Well||
Well, Rich no longer has a job at Michigan, so there's that. And Gibbons played for three years under Hoke including at least one game after he was notified he was being invested again for assault.
Also, its never the actual crime that causes media focus, but the coverup. Michigan's actions appear to show that they were trying to cover up what was really happening behind the scenes.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Hoke made it a bigger story||
Hoke's two comments about Gibbons being out with an injury and then a family member made this a bigger story. If they weren't bald faced lies, they were at the very least disingenuous.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I think it's all pretty simple||
This story is going to blow up into a big national story. And it's going to get ugly. If Hoke gets out of the gate slow next season (provided he makes it that far) it's going to be really hard for him to survive another season.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I just don't see how he doesn't know||
My initial response to the "he didn't know" was more about whether or not Hoke knew about the Gibbons situation after he was hired. Seems like when you take over a program, someone would (or should) give you the low down on everything that's going on, and that would certainly be one of the things they'd go over.
But as for the issue you address, I don't see anyway that OSCR reopens that case and Hoke doesn't know about it. Its so implausible, I don't see how its even a debate. The coaches are told about every school sanctioned issue that these kids are running into problems with. If they're missing a lot of class, the coaches know. If they piss on a car and DPS catches them, the coaches know. So there is almost a zero percent chance that OSCR starts to reinvestigate a football player for sexual assualt and doesn't give the coach a heads up.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||No||
Schools use FERPA to hide anything and everything they can with athletes. And its honestly comes in to play much more in the athletic world than anything else. If you remember when the whole Ohio State thing went down, all of the athletes names were redacted in the original documents (unredacted forms turned up later). This was because of FERPA. Often, media members will FOIA schools looking for information to back up stories. Schools will routinely deny these requests because of FERPA, and whatever they do turnover is so redacted, that its useless.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||He had to have known||
There's no way he doesn't know. Plently of the people on the internet and elsewhere knew about this. I don't see any scenario in which over the course of his time at Michigan that no one told Hoke "Hey, BTW...your kicker may have been involved with some type of sexual assualt before you got here, but nothing came of it. Just wanted to let you know."
|5 weeks 2 days ago||If that's the case||
If that's the case, then the company line should have just been "Gibbons is no longer on the team for reasons we are not able to discuss at this time."
As someone else said, the entire Michigan AD is tone deaf about what to say. They either need to fire their current PR people or hire someone new because they are failing badly when it comes to dealing with the media.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||But why do it after the new policy?||
I get why they didn't look into it (much) before the new policy in 2013, but why go back and look at a supposedly dead case that happened 4 years ago? Was Gibbons the only years-old case that they went and looked at? And where did this new preponderance of evidence come from?
That's the odd part to me.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Ahhh...||
Well that makes sense then. Weird that Jones didn't take either the SAT or ACT though. Minnesota doesn't require that to get in?
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Jones too||
They stopped recruiting Jeff Jones too. Shortly after offering him. Which is just odd.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Keep your expectations low,||
Keep your expectations low, and then you'll always be pleasantly surprised. Or a know-it-all.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Tuxedo t-shirt baby Jesus||
Tuxedo t-shirt baby Jesus
|5 weeks 5 days ago||But...||
But what if we outfit him with some of those robotics I'm always seeing in the Michigan commercial and turn him into Robo McGary?
|5 weeks 6 days ago||USC||
Word is Town has USC in mind. Which isn't all bad for Michigan since there are so many stud QBs in California this year, the sooner the in state schools fill up, the easier its going to be to get one of them to leave home.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||And God help us if anything happens to either of them.||
And God help us if anything happens to either of them.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Definitely, at least on the scout team||
Could definitely see Houma and Shallman taking reps on the scout team (since someone has to), but since they are both FBs, I doubt we see either much at RB.
Unless all hell breaks loose of course.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Doubt it||
If we do, it'd be from someone committing without ever seeing campus. Jones cancelled his visit on the 31st (due to Michigan pulling back according to TomVH), Mack doesn't have anything scheduled, and Enwere is supposedly solid to Cal now.
So unless they throw out an 11th hour offer to someone, those are the options at the moment and none of them look good.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Personally, I think that's thin||
If they don't take a RB in this class (which it seems like they won't), that's moderately scary depth. Drake is coming back from an ACL tear, so who knows how he'll be, and Hayes is projected to be more of a slot. So now you've got just Green and Smith. With the wear and tear RBs go through, that's not good.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||RB recruiting||
With Rawls transferring, I find it even more odd that the coaches have given up on recruiting a RB in this class. We're pretty thin at RB now. And if Hayes is really moving to the slot, then we're really, really thin with just Green, Smith, and a post-ACL tear Drake Johnson. That's not good.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Kiffin||
Maybe Ricky didn't like Kiffin's rendition of Sweet Home Alabama.
|6 weeks 15 hours ago||Still don't think six months does anything||
I got your point, but given the state of Michigan's program (the on the field part) I don't think there's much the best recruiter in the world could do over the next six months. There's just very little that they can legitimately sell over that time span.
They might be able to reel in some high three star or low four star type recruits, but I think any high rated recruit is going to hold off and wait to see the on field product. And since its going to be a small class, I don't think Michigan will persue those lower level recruits that hard.
So like I said, I doubt much happens in the next six months.
|6 weeks 16 hours ago||Six months won't change anything||
Michigan's problem isn't recruiting. Its that they are just plain mediocre on the field. And since they don't play a game for seven months, there's nothing that Nuss can do between now and then to fix it.
He can sell his offense, and sell Michigan turning it around (again...who's getting dizzy?), but that's only going to be good enough to get into a recruit's ear. To seal the deal, they've got to win on the field.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||Exactly||
If the recruits don't want the attention, all they have to do is say no. Want to do this interview? No. Want to announce live on our air? No. Want to go to this camp where there's going to be media? No.
Its that simple.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Your argument is confusing||
So if I'm a recruit, I don't want to go to MSU because they develop talent? And recruiting rankings don't mean a whole lot if you can't coach that talent up.
And I would hands down take an 11-2 or even a 10-3 season without a championship over the pu-pu platter of 7-6 and 8-5 seasons that have become the norm around these parts.
At least Sparty has gotten to go to the dance. Michigan has been left far, far on the outside.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||MSU isn't a flash in the pan||
If MSU is a flash in the pan, what's Michigan? Over the past ten seasons, the two programs have nearly identical records. 77-49 for Michigan and 78-50 for MSU. But in the past four seasons, its been all MSU 42-12 to 33-19.
If anything, that 7-6 record in 2012 was the fluke since they were 13-1, 11-3, and 11-2 before and after that season. So if you're an in-state kid, the team that has been consistently good through the entirety of your high school career is MSU. The fluky flash in the pan team is Michigan.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||Regaining momentum could take some time||
Regaining that lost recruiting momentum could take a few seasons too. The team has fared poorly by their own standards in back-to-back seasons and posting a good record next season won't erase any negative perceptions in one fell swoop. It'll certainly be a step in the right direction, but its going to take two good seasons in a row before anyone rightly declares Michigan to be "back."
I also don't think we'll see the typically hot start to recruiting that Michigan has enjoyed in years past. The high profile decommits have created a bit of a dark cloud over the program and I think you'll see a lot of recruits hold off and take a wait and see approach.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not wrong though||
So you're saying there's been good recruiting news since August? What is it? Our top recruit saying he's going to stay committed? The fact that he even had to say that disqualifies it from being good news.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I know||
But I really wouldn't count a current commit saying that he's going to stay committed as good news. And if we are counting that as our only good news that should tell you how bad it has been.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||That was May 26||
That was in May. Its January -- almost eight months later. So like I said, its been a really long time since there's been good recruiting news. Last thing I'd count as good news is Shaun Crawford committing in late August.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||True||
Very true. But to be fair, our 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes are going to be a bit...thin.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Anorexic Recruiting||
Michigan is leading the way in the hot new trend of anorexic recruiting. We get the commits and then spit them back out.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||There can be no good recruiting news||
Somewhere around August 2013, Michigan angered the recruiting gods and there can no longer be good recruiting news. Only doom.
But seriously...its been like 6 months since there's been legit positive news on the recruiting front for Michigan. Sad times.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||SFW link||
SFW (and actual site) link:
|6 weeks 3 days ago||True||
Good catch. I was using that first 11-2 as a starting point, but still counting it as a year. So its two years of regression. Which really isn't a ton better than three years.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||You must not be familiar with our fan base||
I love Michigan and all, but there are a ton of assholes in our fan base. I really doubt its Ohio State or Michigan State fans posing as Michigan fans that are tweeting at Harris. We have enough idiots in our own fan base to do this to ourselves.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Can't do both?||
So you can't develop what you have AND recruit kids that will be a part of the team in the future?
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Fans need to stop being assholes||
Currently, there are a bunch of Michigan "fans" bombaring Harris with negative tweets. So much so, Harris' coach wanted TomVH to tweet this:
So stop being assholes people or you're going to kill any chance of Harris ever recommiting. If you haven't already.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Eventually, Hoke and co. need to win||
Eventually, Hoke and co. need to win. I think with Harris and Campbell decommitting you've seen the shine wear off on selling a turn around and family atmosphere. That works for a lot of recruits, but the top guys want to win and play on the biggest stages and Michigan just can't sell that right now.
Had 2013 been a better season, they could have sustained and built upon their recruiting momentum. But, after three straight years of regression, it would seem that the momentum that got them into the conversation with guys like Hand, Campbell, and Harris is gone.
So for a lot of reasons, Michigan needs to have a really strong showing in 2014 if they want to try and continue recruiting these elite kids.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Thanks||
Thanks. Didn't know that, but it reinforces my point of taking as many as you can because they get hurt, transfer, etc.
I was always surprised that Kamara committed to Alabama. As the last one to commit of that ridiculous haul it was just odd. I mean good for him wanting to compete, but there were a couple of studs ahead of him on the depth chart, plus 3 other RBs in his class and he could go pretty much anywhere he wanted. Now he's burned two years of college.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Alabama's RB recruiting||
Here's what Alabama's taken the last few years at RB.
2012: Yeldon, Drake
2013: Henry, Kamara, Jones, Tenpenny
That's 7 RBs in three years. Take as many good ones as you can.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Take as many good ones as you can||
Counting on RBs is foolish. Take as many good ones as you can afford to, and then let them sort things out on the field. Even though we have Green, Smith, and Hayes you never know what will happen. Kids get hurt, arrested, homesick, etc. So your depth can go away quickly. And Harris is a 2015 recruit, which is a long ways off, and there's no guarantee that we get him. Counting him amongst our RB assets is also foolish.
So in the same way you should take a QB ever year, you should take at least one RB every year too.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Ali||
You probably think Ali was classless too. Dude talked a little trash. Didn't swear. Big deal.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||4-5 = respectable?||
Since when does 4-5 against your rivals equal respectable at Michigan? That's not acceptable or respectable at all. If we play 9 games against our rivals, I think a respectable record would be around 6-3 or 7-2.
4-5 is lousy man.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Baseless optimism!||
Baseless optimism! Embrace it!!
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Probably Nuss then||
He knew going in that PT would be a problem, but at least he could get top notch QB training with Nuss. Now that he's gone, maybe there's not much of a reason to stick around.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||It's Texas||
It's Texas. They hand out guns every time you fill up your truck.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Dude its early||
Dude, these QBs have only finished three years of football. There's plenty of time for the scouting services to get a good look at them. And for the record, ESPN has Kearns as the no. 9 pocket passer and #195 overall recruit for 2015.
And considering what a ridiculous year 2015 is for QBs, that's pretty good.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||He was the best QB on his team||
The other QBs on Speight's team were pretty bad. Rafe Peavey (Ark.) and Morgan Mahalak (Ore.) didn't look good all week at practice. Peavey got chewed out a lot by the coaches for being consistently late with his throws.
So he was the starter by default.
Sean White is the real deal though. Don't really see him fitting in at Auburn though. Wouldn't be surprised to see him flip before signing day.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Its not just the game||
This is what people don't seem to understand about these UA guys. The evaluations aren't just off the Under Armour game. They practice for three full days, and then have a fourth walk-through day. I don't know about Rivals, Scout, 247, but ESPN's scouts are out there for all of the practices covering the event. So they see A LOT of these guys, and then also spend time talking to the position coaches about them.
So its, not some fluky evaluation off the game. Speight dropped because he didn't look as good as they originally thought through a week of practices and then the game. Same as Morris. Both guys weren't that impressive during practice. And being named captain has less to do with talent than it does being a leader.
Source: I was there for every practice for Morris and Speight.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Just because one school is dumb...||
I disagree. Just because one school is stupid and overpays for an average SEC DC, doesn't mean the rest of the CFB world needs to follow suit.
And Grantham is smart to take it. He was probably close to getting fired there anyways. Gets to leave on his own terms, and gets a big raise out of it to.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Kirby and UGA have a lot of ties||
Kirby was an all-SEC DB at Geogia, and then started his coaching career there as a GA. He also made a brief pit stop there in 2005 as their RBs coach, before leaving for Miami in 2006. So yeah, there's a lot of ties with Kirby Smart and Georgia. And considering how Alabama's defense underperformed this season, Kirby might be wise to take a new job with Georgia if the price (just a guess...$1.4M??) is right.
Would be a huge coup for Georgia too. Upgrade their own DC and hurt a rival at the same time.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Does UGA have the cash???||
Does Georiga have the cash? Really?? This isn't Georgia State or Georgia Southern, its Georgia. They have tons of money.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Eli Zaret||
Eli Zaret has ties to the Associate Athletic Director Pete Skorich. Pete used to be the head of the TV group over with the Pistons and used Eli as a reporter for a whlie over there. Now that Pete's found a home with Michigan, its not a surprise to see him bring on Eli.
You'll probably see him in that reporter role for online content, but I doubt they use him for PXP. That's not really his thing.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Suspect is kind. Non existent||
Suspect is kind. Non existent would be more accurate.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||I miss Pizza House||
Man do I miss Pizza House. Being able to get anything delivered until 3am was amazing.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||HAHAHAhahaha..haha..ha....ehh||
Still too soon.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Takes good coaches to maximize that talent||
Yes there is more talent in the south, but it takes good coaches to recruit that talent and then get the most out of it.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Not in the SEC||
The SEC has 10 of the top 25 highest paid college coaches. So even the bottom feeders are shelling out for the best coaches they can afford. Its part of the reason they are considered the best conference. Its not so much that their top schools are better its that their mid to bottom tier schools are better than every one elses. Case in point, Penn State just hired the coach of the 7th or 8th best school in the SEC.
No one is chomping at the bit to hire the coach of the 7th or 8th best team in the Big Ten, ACC, Big 12, or Pac 12.
|7 weeks 6 days ago||Sure it has.||
Sure it has. At least when it comes to coaches. For years, despite making more than any other conference, the Big Ten has lagged behind most of the rest of CFB when it comes to paying for top shelf coaches. Especially the SEC.
In the top 25 paid CFB coaches (article is slightly dated), the SEC has ten teams. Ten! The Big 12 has six and the Big Ten has five.
The conference has been bringing in enough dough that they should've been shelling out more to attract the best coaches. Yet, outside of Mich, OSU, PSU, and Nebraska, no one has been spending any of that money on anything that helps with the actual product on the field (I'm not including Iowa paying Ferentz $4M a year because God knows why they are doing that...) Sparty has finally gotten with the program and is shelling out for their good staff.
So back to your original point, yes the majority of the Big Ten has definitely been hesitant to spend money when it comes to coaches. When schools like Illinois, or Indiana, or Wisconsin start doing the same, then maybe you can say its not an issue. But until then, the Big Ten is still your rich uncle that makes you pay for your half of the dinner.
|8 weeks 18 hours ago||Yeah, that would be odd||
He seems much more likely (given that he turns things around here) to go to someplace like Oklahoma whenever Stoops is done or forced out.
|8 weeks 18 hours ago||8 away from 4-8 too||
That 11 away from 11-1 is a load of crap becasue Michigan was also 8 pts away from being 4-8.
|8 weeks 18 hours ago||Those towel twirling skills||
Man, those towel twirling skills are top notch. TOP. NOTCH.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah I don't get that either||
I've been saying for years that all of this BTN and ESPN money that the conference is rolling in is pointless if the schools aren't going to use it to pay for top notch coaches. Michigan-MSU-OSU-PSU have all entered a bit of an arms race when it comes to coaches and spending dough. Sparty has given their staff raises the last two years in a row, so credit to them for figuring it out and keeping up with the Jones'.
But the rest of the conference...man, they better get with the program or its going to be too late to try and catch up.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Probably||
The salary's I found were the reported numbers for 2013. Kirby's deal was new last season so that won't change too much, and they said Cam's deal was backloaded so the $1.3M is probably right. So yeah, Nuss could be right around that Kirby Smart/Cam Cameron $1.3M mark.
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Groom Wheatley||
I'd like to see them bring in Wheatley as an RB coach and groom him to become the next OC. If he does in fact turn the Michigan offense around, Nuss will be the first Michigan coordinator in a really long time to get serious head coaching looks. And something like that should happen within 2-3 seasons. Having someone like Wheatley in house -- assuming he knows what he's doing -- that can step in and up into an OC role would be a big plus.
As far as Soup...there's got to be something negative with him that no one outside of coaching circles knows about. You just don't fall off the face of the CFB world like that without being blacklisted.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Doesn't matter who the coach is really||
With top recruits like Harris, it doesn't matter who the coach is if the offense is a tire fire. Had Michigan had its third straight year of offensive abortion on the field, then it was super unlikely that Harris would stick out his commitment and come here. I mean, the dude was wavering after the BW's bowl. Did you really think he'd make it another year with every top program asking him "you sure you want to play in that offense??"
If Nuss can make the offense purr, then I'm sure he and Harris will become best buds and Harris will stick.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Not as much as some actual||
Not as much as some actual success on the field though
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Nussmeier||
It's gonna be Nussmeier. Heard the rumor at work earlier today that Saban wants to hire Kiffin and Nuss is being encouraged to look elsewhere. Sounds insane but it comes from a well sourced person and the same type of guy that travels in the same circles as Herbstreit.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Probably why he's not saying anything||
Probably why he's not saying anything this time around. My guess is that Herbie was right on his original Les to Michigan report, but leaked it early and blew up the deal.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Agreed||
From what people have said, Harris was closest to Borges on the staff, and with him already getting soft on Michigan, Borges getting axed could come at the cost of a commitment from Harris. But it needed to happen, and there's a lot of time let to recruit 2015 kids still. So even if he opts out, there's plenty of time to rerecruit him.
And hey, the best recruiter for an offensive player is a good offense. So here's hoping they have that going for them in 2014.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Alabama OC Doug Nussmeier||
Saban wants Nussmeier out so he can hire Kiffin. And yes I'm serious.
|8 weeks 2 days ago||Yay?||
Woo? Now who replaces him. And does Funk follow him out the door?
|8 weeks 3 days ago||If anything I think Michigan||
If anything I think Michigan fans are becoming more realistic. Call it pessimistic but when you suck for ten years and start to think that the next season will also suck, that's just accepting the facts.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||It used to be||
In the first year or two of the game, it was held in Orlando. But then they moved it to St. Pete because its a better field and you don't have to deal with bowl game conflicts.
But they do hold the practices at the ESPN Wide World of Sports and that's in Orlando.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||You can never have too many good RBs||
You can never have too many good RBs on the roster. Look at a team like Alabama that takes 2-3 RBs every year no matter how many good ones they have on the roster. If you want to be a rushing team, take all the good RBs that you can, let the cream rise to the top, and injuries and transfers will take care of the ones that don't make it.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think its that large||
The thing is, I don't think there's that large of a group of people clammoring for an alternative. A least an alternative that would be watchable. Despite people saying they'd want to watch some sort of alternate sports network where's there's analysis and highlights on a wide variety of teams, I don't think people would actually watch it. Media is far more fragmented today than it used to be, so you can't go with a scatter gun apporach to content. People just won't watch it and will go elsewhere to find something that interests them. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people don't care what teams outside of the circle of fandom are up to on a day-to-day basis.
I mean, look at all of the individual sports networks -- NFL, MLB, NBA, Golf, Big Ten, SEC, etc. Those all exist because there's a demand for more coverage on just those sports/leagues/confs. But the ratings for those networks are a tiny fraction of what ESPN pulls in. And yes, ESPN has a larger subscriber base, but its not THAT much bigger. For instance, they have slightly less than 100M subs, where a network like the NFL Network has around 70M. FS1 has around 85M I think. But other networks get a tiny fraction of the views ESPN gets.
So other content is out there, but people just don't want to watch it. And if you see that start to change, then you'll probably see ESPN change their philosophy as well.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Give the people what they want||
I don't know why everyone thinks these networks aren't giving "the people what they want." Ratings show what people want. People want coverage on the NFL and the biggest lightning rod stars and teams. And like it or not, people like exactly what Sportscenter and all of these other shows are showing them because they continue to get good ratings. And its why FS1 is showing what they are showing.
Its really not that hard people. The media landscape has changed. No one wants to sit there and wait for coverage on their team to show up. If you want highlights and analysis, people go online to watch the highlight and read about their team because you can get immediate results on that. National networks are going to go for the biggest audience they can, and for smaller things, they're hoping you go to their website for coverage on that. That's a big part of the reason ESPN now has team sites for every NFL team, and 20 or so college teams. They can't devote time to every team on the main networks, but they can give you coverage online.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Hypocritcial||
See, this is the problem. You have people like you saying "how dare they show me soccer," yet there are more soccer fans in the world than any other sports and its not even remotely close. Well, there's plenty of people that bitch about when they show college sports, the NHL, baseball, the NBA, etc. You can't have it both ways. Either you want them to show everything and not focus on just a couple of big topics, or you can want them to show everything (and then no one will watch, because who wants to sit through analysis and highlights of dozens of teams no one cares about).
And yeah...silly ESPN for trying to show highlights of the biggest sport in the world.
|8 weeks 4 days ago||Correction||
You have it backwards on the NFL. They aren't quite required by the contract to talk about it. What happens is because everything NFL related rates highly, they go to the NFL and say "hey, instead of X hours of NFL programming a week, we would like to now to X + Y hours a week and here's where we're going to use that footage." The NFL says OK, gives them a price tag for that new content, and then ESPN is off an running to do more NFL programming. And since they are shelling out $1B+ a year for that content, they do their best to get a return on that by pushing the NFL as much as they can.
And I don't know how you can really blame ESPN for going all in on the NFL. Its far and away the biggest driver of the ratings. Its the same reason you've seen so many other networks (TLC, MTV, Discovery, etc) change their format and run with shows that get ratings. At the end of the day, these networks are all businesses, and its in their best interest to get the highest ratings and the highest ad rates that go with them.
So don't blame the networks. Blame the idiots that like to watch Storage Wars, Duck Dynasty, Honey Boo Boo, and Tim Tebow coverage. The networks are just giving the people what they want.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||It wasn't at first||
It wasn't labled OT at first. It was simply "Browns" And either way, its a little wierd to talk non-Michigan based teams on a Michigan blog. There's a lot of alumni in NYC and Cali, would you be cool with a discussion on the Giants/Jets/49ers/Chargers/etc?
|8 weeks 5 days ago||The Browns||
The Browns exist to make all non-Browns sports fans feel better.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Yup||
Considering the amount of cash they have tied up in Stafford/Calvin they need an offensive guy that can maximize those two guys.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||I once had an epic fall too||
I also had an epic fall. I was in high school (and drunk) and thought I could jump down from the top of the stairs to the bottom. Instead, I hit my head on the ceiling and then fell down the stairs.
My friends still talk about it today. So it was truely an epic fall.
/cool story bro
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Summer doesn't matter||
Due to Big Ten rules, you have to show where the schollies are coming from so you don't oversign. So if Michigan accepts 18 and theres only 16 graduating then they already know where the two extra are coming from. You can't oversign and hope extras leave in the summer. Those types of departures will only help the 2015 class, not the 2014 one.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Last part is key||
The last part about championships and NFL pipelines is what prevents Michigan from reeling in kids late. A lot of top prospects that announce on NSD or these all star games are looking to play on the biggest stages in college and the NFL. Michigan can't sell either of those things.
The poor play on the field keeps them off the big stage in college and they haven't shown they can develop kids and send them to the NFL yet. Its a bad combo and its almost impossible to close on a kid that waits because of it.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Need time to research coaches too||
I could see waiting if you wanted to spend some time researching who was actually going to make a difference and be an actual improvement. Up until a week ago, coaches have been in game prep and practice mode, and now need to focus on recruiting and trying to fill out the class. That doesn't leave a ton of time to research a portfolio of good assistants to try and hire.
I don't think its quite the easy process that people think it is. If you're going to make a change, you better be damn sure that you're making one that's actually going to be better. And that takes time to reseach and scout.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Epic fall||
What I wouldn't give for an epic fall. Too many lackluster ones lately.
|8 weeks 5 days ago||Maybe not epic, but it would be bad||
Maybe not an epic fail, but losing both Webb and McDowell -- the top two players in the state -- would be pretty bad. With Michigan's on field performance the last few years, its going to become harder to pull top shelf kids from out of state. So locking down the guys in your own backyard is going to become more and more important.
You can afford to swing and miss on guys from Florida, et al, but missing on guys in your own backyard is bad no matter how you try and sugar coat it.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Me pick red hat. I like red.||
Me pick red hat. I like red. Hat is red. I play for hat. Hat make all decision. Long live hat.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Hahaha...||
Nice touch with blaming Adidas. We need to blame more things on those three stripe loving demons.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Future commits||
Outside of Mason Cole, who is already committed, here's a list of the guys expected to commit to Michigan that are playing in this game:
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||For OSU||
Lattimore and Smith are a package deal and its highly doubtful both will be coming here. Looks like good news for Ohio State.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Cheering for OSU||
Even though its OSU and I hate them, I still want to see them win so it can be another feather in the Big Ten's cap.
And for all of the people that rag on the SEC for some sort of faux dominance, you should want OSU to win too. The more big bowl games the Big Ten can win (especially against perennially wishy-washy Clemson) the better it will be for the conference as a whole.
Rose Bowl and Orange Bowl wins coupled with Nebraska winning and Iowa playing LSU close will go a long way towards changing perceptions.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Like Fournette||
Much like Leonard Fournette's "I'm going to shock the world" talk before committing to the school that everyone had him committing to for months.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Dude||
Dude, he's a talented D Limeman. There's a home for one of those on every type of defense there is.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Its been almost a decade||
Its been almost a decade since Michigan could be considered elite. They've had one decent year in 2011 when they won 11, and the rest of the seasons have been what any other top program would consider terrible -- 7/8/9 wins.
And they are at least a couple of years away from being able to be considered elite since you've got to string together a bunch of 10 win seasons or championship games appearances to get to that level. And it sure as hell ain't gonna start next season.
Like I said above, its sad.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||Recruiting might be the bigger loss||
Michigan hasn't done very well on the recruiting trail since he left either. As the best or one of the best on the staff at recruiting, it'll be interesting to see how they do down the stretch and in to 2014.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||That's the sad state of Mich football||
The whole "I've been a lifelong fan...but I'm not going there" is really indicative of how bad things have gotten for Michigan. If they were still a top program and winning 9, 10 games a season on the reg, then they would be pulling in the majority of these types of kids.
But the fact of the matter is, the program isn't very good, so despite being big fans of Michigan, the kids find it in their best interest to go elsewhere. Its sad.
|10 weeks 15 hours ago||Too many questions||
With the draft as deep as it is this year and with so many questions now about Mitch's back he would probably slide into the second round. And at that point it makes sense to come back.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||You must be a blast around the holidays.||
You must be a blast around the holidays.
|10 weeks 3 days ago||"maybe he wagered a friend "||
"maybe he wagered a friend" -- New Bucknuts story: TAYLOR LEWAN HAS A GAMBLING PROBLEM!!
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Why not?||
If you knew you were a dead man walking, wouldn't you want to be fired BEFORE Christmas and not after? If they fire him tonight or Monday, he can spend the holiday's with his family plus he'd be getting a big ol' fat severance check. That's a win-win in my book.
I'd be much cruler to fire him after the season.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Too much freedom||
I forget the analyst that made it, but on NBC's show they brought up that they thought Stafford had too much freedom in the offense, and that freedom leads to his reckless behavior with the ball. Would be interesting to see how he did under an OC/head coach that reigned him in a bit.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Agree||
The season is over and what he does in the final week isn't going to change anyone's mind. So if you're going to fire him, just do it now. Would be doing the guy a favor in a way since he'd be getting a reported $12M pink slip and he'd get to spend the holiday's with his family.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||Lions contracts||
When you consider how much the Lions have on the line in contracts for some of their stars, dropping $18M to bring in a guy that can get the most out of them would be really smart and well worth it.
|10 weeks 5 days ago||I don't||
I'd rather have the Big Ten be full of good teams and good coaches. Competition brings out the best in you. Outside of three...maybe four coaches, the conference is really weak in that regard.
|11 weeks 10 hours ago||Replays||
Not sure how it is for college sports, but I used to work in the NBA and we were limited by the NBA on the number and types of replays that could be shown on the big screen. The NCAA or Big Ten might place similar restrictions on in arena/stadium content.
|11 weeks 17 hours ago||Me: HAHAHA...for now||
I laughed, and then realized news like this will probably happen anyways. At this point, my soul dong is in a constant state of being prepared to be punched.
Expect all bad news, and you can only be pleasantly surprised. Think that may be the official tag line of the 2013 Wolverines.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Right, but he's a 2015 kid||
Right, but Campbell is a 2015 kid. And he's rail thin. All of those guys listed above will be bigger, faster, stronger, and more experienced for someone like GC would ever see the field. Sure, he'd probably get some snaps as a true freshman, but its not like he's going to be the no. 1 starter in 2015. And if he was going to be, then this team will have so many problems, that we'll probably be looking for a new coach and would land Campbell anyways.
|11 weeks 2 days ago||Agreed||
There's a LOT of other stuff that will happen well before any of these 2015 kids set foot on the field in Ann Arbor. And in terms of actual on field impact, you're looking at probably two full seasons before you'd notice the impact of having/not having someone like Campbell.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Don't worry||
Don't worry, they just need to execute
|11 weeks 3 days ago||They'll go after the restaurant||
They'll go after the restaurant of course. That's where the money is. You're not going to get jack by suing a waiter.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||App State was embarrassing, OSU wasn't||
The perpetual embarrassment from that App State tips the scales for me. Did the 2006 loss to OSU suck? Sure. But it was a 1 v 2 game, someone had to lose, and Michigan lost a close one.
But in every CFB season since that 2007 loss to App. State, we have to see the same damn embarrassing highlight over and over again. And we'll continue to see that loss shoved in our face for a while.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on which hurt more, but for me, the program hasn't been the same since that App. State loss. That was the one that sent us from national prominence to national punch line. The OSU loss that preceded it was simply a bad beat in a long-standing rivalry.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||2007 and App State and its not close||
The App State loss made all of 2007 the worst year ever, and its not even close. Five years from now, is anyone going to remember much from this shitty season? They probably remember almost beating OSU on the last play, but that wasn't that soul crushing since nearly everyone had no expectation of winning that game. But 20+ years from now, everyone is still going to remember #5 Michigan lost to App State which kicked off a six years and counting tailspin of depressing Michigan football.
2013 was finding out the Tooth Fairy wasn't real. 2007 was finding out Santa wasn't real.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||I think he tried to commit||
If I remember right, I think I heard he tried to commit to Florida and was told no. But I may be confusing him with another recruit that tried the same thing.
They all kind of blend together after a while.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Fair enough||
Fair enough, but its still a red flag. He's on at least his third school too. And maybe that's on his parents. Maybe not. I met him last January in St. Pete and didn't have a good impession of him.
Regardless, he's a project offensive lineman. And if you're taking one of those, you may as well avoid one that has as few red flags as possible.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||He's switched HS too||
I think he's switched high schools a lot too. He was at Hales Franciscan near Chicago, then transfered to that IMG academy in Florida, and then transfered to Simeon in Chicago.
With all of those transfers, who knows if he's even elligible for college.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||No thank you||
Anyone that commits and decommits multiple times, I rather not have. Good indicator of a head case.
And yeah, yeah, yeah...he's a high school kid. They change their minds early and often. But in the same way height, weight, and quickness are measurables that scouts look for, so are things like this.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||There's that too||
Baumgarder also had some tweets about a few of Michigan's players seeking evaluations for early entry into the NFL Draft. Hoke wouldn't say one way or another if Gardner was one of them. Also, I don't think reconsider is accurate. Devin never said he was coming back. Hoke just said that he thought he would be back.
Edit to add quote:
@nickbaumgardner: Hoke says Michigan has a 'couple' players who want to see their NFL draft stock. Won't say who.