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|28 weeks 15 hours ago||Also...||
Others that come to mind:
The 2002 "Bluegrass Miracle" - Kentucy up by 3 on Nick Saban-coached LSU with 2 seconds left when LSU completes a hail mary from THEIR OWN 25 YARD LINE. The UK students, on the other end of the stadium and assuming they won, storm the field as LSU celebrates:
2013 Georgia-Auburn - 36 seonds left, Georgia up by 1 and Auburn facing a 4th and 18 from their own 26, and then this happens:
Also, the 1997 Nebraska-Missouri kicked ball in the endzone game, which was total dumb luck (and illegal).
|28 weeks 1 day ago||I think the coin flip only||
I think the coin flip only comes into play in the event the two top teams are TIED in the playoff rankings. I'm not sure this is even possible right now - I believe the selection committe is required to rank the top 25 teams in order, but the voting procedure is complicated so who knows.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||"Some schools allow their||
"Some schools allow their verbal commits to visit elsewhere."
Oh, OK. I wasn't aware of this. I cant imagine any other school treats this any differently, though. With or without a "rule", if a commit is visiting another school, it seems like a given that the school he committed to will start looking at other options, too. Looks like business as usual to me.
I mean, I'm sure OSU is looking at other RBs now that Dunn visited Michigan, right?
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Of course.||
Maybe I'm just not understanding what the issue is here. I don't think there's a coach in the country who WANTS his commits to visit other schools. That's obvious. But the original poster mentioned that Hoke has a specific "rule" against it. Is this different from any other school? I was under the impression that this "rule" implied that if you visit, you're out. If not, what's the point of the rule?
|4 years 21 weeks ago||I don't understand...||
How can the coaching staff stop commits from taking visits to other schools? They have a rule that they will immeadiately rescind the commitment if a visit is taken? I find that very hard to believe. If a 4- or 5- star commits makes a visit, I doubt they'll do anything.
IMO, until they sign, commits have every right to visit wherever and whenever they want. This is huge decision and they should make sure it's the right one. I would say it's wrong for Hoke to deny them that right. The deck is stacked against them enough as is. The recruiting period seems to be the only time college players have any kind of power in their college careers.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Thoughts...||
The BCS's problems can be fixed in 3 steps, IMO:
1) Pull a "Lean On Me".
There are 120 teams in the FBS and around half of them have no shot at winning a National Championship. Ever. They don't bring in enough revenue, compete for recruits, or have the tradition of the "top tier" teams. We all know it's true. So since none of them will graduate anyway, they are all expurgated. They are dismissed. They are out of here, forever. I wish them well.
The FBS moves to five 14-team conferences. This is an easily obtainable goal. The SEC and ACC are there. The Pac 12 adds Boise and BYU. Big 10 adds Notre Dame and Rutgers. The Big 12 can add 4 of the remaining teams (Houston, SMU, Louisville, any of the Florida schools). Every other program moves to the FCS.
2) Mandate interconference games. Every team gets one FCS "warmup". The other 2 OOC games must be against FBS teams from a different conference. One home, one away.
3) 6 or 8 team playoff as Brian outlined. This will be made a lot easier because there will be a lot more data about realtive conference strength and individual team strength. Hell, I wouldn't even bother with the conference championships any more. They are unnecessary.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||I realize it's based on||
I realize it's based on logic, but it's all gonna come down to the voters and it's gonna be close. ESPN was saying that something like 44 voters will have to change their 2nd place votes from Bama to Ok St. How can this guy claim to know that 44 voters will change their mind?
|4 years 21 weeks ago||I don't see how anyone can||
I don't see how anyone can possibly predict the BCS. 2/3 of the formula relies on human polls which are not out yet. How can he possibly claim to know how a few dozen pollsters will vote? This is the CFB equivalent of a horoscope.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Up - we were 19 last week.||
Up - we were 19 last week. Our SOS went down from 38 to 42, though. Sagarin loves the Big 12 this year. Look at Texas A&M.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||From Chengelis on Twitter:||
"Brad Edwards ESPN BCS analyst: "Right now my feeling is not good about Michigan getting into the top 14" (ESPN radio)"
Not looking good at all. Baylor and TCU will jump us. I believe we now need both Houston and the OK-OK St. loser to fall below us to get a bid. That's a longshot.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Oh, I'm not saying we would||
Oh, I'm not saying we would have lost, but the point is breaks go both ways. If you're a great team you don't need them.
We played in 4 close games this year. We won the two at home and lost the two on the road. Sounds about right.
|4 years 21 weeks ago||Not to mention the OSU game||
Not to mention the OSU game where Miller missed a wide open receiver for the lead with 90 seconds left...
|4 years 22 weeks ago||I agree with your reasoning but...||
don't follow your conclusion. How are conditions going to change? The south will always have warmer weather and, therefore, better conditioned atheletes. SEC schools will always pay for top coaches because most of those schools have rabid fanbases and bring in a ton of revenue. College football is the ONLY sport in many of these states.
I suppose the SEC, or even NCAA, might crack down on oversigning one day, but the effect of having 4-5 extra recruits a year is minimal, IMO. Oversiging sucks, but I believe it is used as a crutch by haters. The top SEC schools gets 4- and 5-star athletes by the boatload - if oversigning stops, they'll just be more selective about who they offer.
You could make a strong case that the only thing that ever held the SEC back was institutional racism that existed into the 60s & 70s. Once recruiting opened up, it was only a matter of time before they started to dominate. I think the only way other conferences can compete on a regular basis is to outscheme them. Teams like Iowa and Minnesota can never expect to bring in the talent that Bama, Florida, Arkansas, Mississippi et al get on a regular basis.
All IMO, of course.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||From what I have read, this||
From what I have read, this is wrong. Here's how CBS's guru explains it:
"If a Bowl loses a host team to the title game, then the bowl gets first choice at a replacement team. The rest of the selection order for 2012 is as follows: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange."
Assuming LSU wins and it's an LSU-Bama championship, the only bowl "losing a host team" is the Sugar Bowl, so they get first pick of the at large team. They would in all likelyhood pick Michigan. The order then reverts to the above, so the Fiesta gets the next pick (presumed to be Stanford), followed by the Sugar again (Houston) and the Orange (the Big East winner, who nobody wants).
I agree with you, though - I have a feeling Georgia's gonna win on Saturday. It's been that kind of year.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||Right, but the Fiesta gets||
Right, but the Fiesta gets the second at-large pick after the Sugar Bowl. So assuming the Sugar picks Michigan first, the Fiesta will have a choice of Stanford or Houston next. Everyone's assuming they take Stanford because they're in a bigger conference and would probably draw a bigger TV audience, but I don't think that's a slam dunk. Houston is a big school in a big market and the team is undefeated.
I guess we'll find out in a week.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||Someone somewhere||
Someone somewhere (ESPN, maybe?) mentioned that it's possible the Fiesta Bowl people take Houston over Stanford to set up a OK St-Houston shootout-to-end-all-shootouts. That would leave Michigan v. Stanford in the Sugar Bowl. This makes too much sense, though, so it probably won't happen. Not impossible, though - Houston has more that twice as many students as Stanford and isn't terribly far from Arizona.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||I'm not really on board with||
I'm not really on board with this reasoning. In 2007, with Mattison as DC, Florida was ranked 41st in total defense. After Mattison left and Strong took over, they finished 9th in 2008 and 4th in 2009. Then Meyer left and they were 9th in 2010. They're 10th this year.
The point is, those Florida defenses were/are great because they were/are unbelieveably talented. If he recruits and gets any halfway decent DC (which he will), they'll be very good. Same with special teams, which was always a strength for Florida (Meyer uses his best players on special teams).
|4 years 22 weeks ago||He'll recruit in Florida||
The guy is practically a household name with a career 104-23 record and a history of sending players to the NFL. Recruiting will not be a problem (not that it ever is for OSU).
This is a best case scenario for OSU, IMO. They hired one of the best football coaches in the country and, unlike Tressell, Meyer has some balls and is capable of beating an SEC team and winning bowl games. You can make a strong case that the scandal was a net win for their program, actually.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||True...||
But I feel like for every Hawaii, there's a Boise/Utah/West Virginia. Plus, you kind of made my point for me. What does everyone remember about the 2008 Sugar Bowl? Hawaii being exposed. That wasn't some great accomplishment for Georgia or anything. They just got stuck playing a team from the WAC.
I guess my point is, I don't really understand why people are falling over themselves to find a way for Michigan to sneak into a BCS game, all for the right to play...Houston. I suppose it's cool to say you played in the Sugar Bowl, but us being left out would produce a much better game, IMO. I'd rather play an SEC team then a C-USA team, and I'd rather not be Houston's "we've arrived" moment.
|4 years 22 weeks ago||I'll get negged for this, but what the hell...||
What are our signature wins? Nebraska and...Notre Dame? We played exactly 2 ranked teams all year - Michigan State and Nebraska. One of those was a loss, and the other got whooped at home by Northwestern. Our Sagarin Strength of Schedule ranking is 38th. K-State's is 9, Oklahoma's is 10.
Let's be fair - the Big Ten is having an off year and we had a very easy schedule. We skipped 2 of the best teams in the conference (Penn State and Wisconsin), and caught Ohio State in the midst of a meltdown.
Plus, do we REALLY want to face down Houston in the Sugar Bowl? They have one of the best offenses in the history of college football, and Case Keenum will not miss the wide open dudes like Braxton Miller did yesterday. Not to mention the fact that Houston is a lowly C-USA team and we're big bad Michigan, who only got in because we have a big fanbase. It's a no win situation for us.
I would presonally rather Michigan play Arkansas or Georgia in a New Year's Day bowl. It's a better match up for us and a more interesting game, IMO. Let some other bunch of poor SOBs deal with the all-time NCAA passing leader.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||That, and there's also the||
That, and there's also the problem of comparing 4 completely different teams.
Anyway, my point was only to throw some water on the "our offense only moved the ball in garbage time last year" and "we couldn't do anything against Big Ten defenses" memes. Our offense was very good last year, in just about every situation except for "holding onto the ball" and "The Gator Bowl". And that was with a first year starter at QB.
Doesn't really matter much now, though.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||When do they count? Only when||
When do they count? Only when you want them to?
Last year's Iowa game (the team that was ranked in the Top 15):
08:18 *TOUCHDOWN 13-75 4:41# 05:30 Punt 3-1 1:50 14:47 Interception 5-17 1:42 08:33 Missed FG 13-59 4:49# 00:33 Punt 10-48 3:58 13:15 Punt 3-4 1:45 06:54 Fumble 12-71 4:24# 04:22 Interception 3-5 0:50 13:10 *TOUCHDOWN 12-85 3:40# 10:28 *TOUCHDOWN 4-75 1:09 06:55 *TOUCHDOWN 6-69 1:13# 01:54 Interception 3--9 0:59
This year's Iowa game (the team that just lost to Minnesota):
13:30 Punt 3-5 1:30 09:23 Punt 3-5 1:06 02:14 *TOUCHDOWN 12-61 5:33 12:13 Punt 5-21 2:47 04:07 Fumble 6-0 2:51 01:02 Interception 5-40 1:09 06:19 *FIELD GOAL 10-45 5:17 01:09 Punt 6-3 3:36 07:53 *TOUCHDOWN 8-57 2:49 03:59 Punt 4-21 1:13 00:00 Downs 14-79 2:15
|4 years 25 weeks ago||You're talking about the Iowa||
You're talking about the Iowa game in which the offense gained 522 yards and scored 4 TDs, right?
|4 years 25 weeks ago||Who told you we "got||
Who told you we "got dominated by every decent defense we played the second half of each of the last three seasons"?
Last year, we put up 377 yards against MSU, 522 against Iowa, 423 against Penn St. 442 against Wisconsin, and 351 against OSU. Those were either seaon highs, or very close to them, for all of those teams. We had the best offense in the Big Ten last year, and one of the best in Big Ten history. We lost because of defense and turnovers.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||True, and Denard did throw||
True, and Denard did throw more than that a few times under RichRod (definitely in the ND game). Plus, 4 of the passes were on the last series. It's more the overall all playcalling and balance that I have a problem with.
Denard ran the ball 12 times and I think they were all planned runs. Some (maybe half?) were options. I don't think any were scrambles or QB draws. Borges seems to have taken away all of the plays that made us so dangerous/hard to defend in 2009 & 2010 and replaced them with pocket passing and the occasional end-around, which doesn't ever seem to work.
I think all hope of avoiding another awkward transition is now lost. Hoke & Borges can't run a spread, and it's gonna be 2-3 seasons before they get their guys in and are able to do whatever it is they plan to do on offense. They do have the benefit of a veteran team, a weak Big Ten, and OSU doom, though, so we should be able to keep our heads above water and go to some bowl games. It's just a shame about Denard - he's clearly a square peg in this system. Hoke has effectively turned him into Steven Threet. If he wasn't such a standup guy I would be worried about a transfer.
|4 years 25 weeks ago||37 pass attempts? No less||
37 pass attempts? No less than 6 downfield bombs that were woefully off the mark? On the road against a bad run defense that can't handle mobile QBs? What the fuck is this?
If you want to run POWER every once in a while, fine. But don't make Denard do something that he is clearly not capable of doing. I know we're Michigan, but our QBs do not magically turn into Tom Brady or Chad Henne or Jim Harbaugh when they put a helmet on.
Hoke was handed the keys to a Ferrari and clearly has no fucking clue how to drive stick. I know the plan is to eventually transition into the BoMoellerCarr ProStyleManBallRock offense, but maybe he can do us all a favor and let the fastest QB in the NCAA run some option out of the shotgun so we can actually win some games? Pretty please, with sugar on top?
|4 years 26 weeks ago||Stefon!||
|4 years 26 weeks ago||Well, it's little different||
Well, it's little different when you get to plug one freshman into an experienced secondary as a spot start, as opposed to having and entire secondary of Freshman, Sophomores and walk ons.
The safety play is so much better this year than last year it's not even funny. A lot of credit for that should go to Mattison, but all of those reps for Kovacs and Gordon last year definitely helped.
[sorry - should be a reply to Mparadox]
|4 years 27 weeks ago||This is funny to me for two||
This is funny to me for two reasons:
1) The idea that we're a "protected team" would make a lot more sense if the Big Ten didn't suspend one of our players for throwing a punch TWO YEARS AGO.
2) It turns out MSU had been whining about Lewan for the entire game. Guess they're not so tough.
IMO, this is really easy - you can't throw a punch on a football field, especially after the whistle blows. The idea that this was "part of the play" and that Ghoulston "didn't intend to injure Lewan because he had a facemask on" is ridiculous on its face. As is the idea that this is some grand conpiracy by the Big Ten to return Michigan to relevancy (Ghoulston's suspension did nothing for us).
Dude lost control during a heated game and got punished. Happens all the time. Fucking deal with it, MSU.
|4 years 27 weeks ago||At this point, from what I||
At this point, from what I understand, thier NBC football money is significantly less than our BTN football money, so that's not an issue. Notre Dame is looking to move to a weaker conference where they can be competitive and not stuck in the middle of the standings.
If they remain independant, the Big Ten should boycott. Carr talked about this back in the 90s. Notre Dme should not be allowed to put together their own "fantasy conference" of Mich, MSU, Purdue, Standford, USC, Army, Navy and Pitt. Enough of their bullshit exceptionalism. Their team has sucked for 20 years now - time to choose a side.
|4 years 28 weeks ago||I'm a layman, but I think||
I'm a layman, but I think Borges could have done a better job scheming for the pressure and punishing MSU for their agressiveness. It would have been nice to see some more screens, mis-directions, throwbacks, etc. Despite the FOOTBAW talk, we're still a finese team and I feel like, to a certain extent, Hoke is trying to jam a square peg into a round hole (a frequent critism of RichRod in his first few years). The two QB sets were interesting, but didn't really amount to much (aside from the Denard jet sweep, which worked nicely).
It also seems like the read option is completely gone, right? I'm a little confused as to why we can't keep that in the playbook as a failsafe when nothing else is working. At the very least, it's a different look, and our guys can probably run it in their sleep.
I'm encouraged with Gardner's performance, though. He had his problems, but he made a couple of nice throws. I'm confident he'll be ready to take control of the offense in 2013. That redshirt is now crucial.
|5 years 2 weeks ago||Well this just says it all...||
"People are talking crap about Rodriguez not respecting Michigan's tradition at the alumni flag football game he started."
I always balked when people compared Michigan fans to Yankee fans, but after all this ridiculous blathering about "tradition", can there even be a debate anymore? It is so obnoxious that it almost seems like self parody. Not even Alabama fans are this over the top.
I'm a proud alumni and I can honestly say that I don't give a shit how involved the former players are with the program. It's nice to see them trotted out every 5-10 years, and the Gerald Ford pre-Ohio State 1997 speech was sweet, but the coaches run the team. This is not a democracy, it's a fucking brutal football dictatorship. Or at least it was...
|5 years 10 weeks ago||A few weeks ago, Katie Baker||
A few weeks ago, Katie Baker wrote a very personal piece for Deadspin detailing her high school years, which were mostly spent on hockey usenet newsgroups (seriously). It was very well done and everyone loved it.
I guess A.J. has now decided that everyone on the staff needs to write some kind of personal vignette, in an attempt to convince the world that they are not just a bunch of cynical assholes.
This just seemed forced and out of context to me. And, though I know is was a joke, there was no need to bash our school at the end.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||Well the Islanders thought||
Well the Islanders thought the Talbot hit was dirty, and that's really all that matters.
I think this game was a long time coming for the Islanders, who have generally been disrespected and looked down upon by the rest of the league for years now. The last Pens game was the final straw in a long line of indignities. Seeing their franchise goalie have his face broken in the final moments of a game and the Pens bench laugh and whop it up is what caused last night's mele. The message sent last night is "We might not be a playoff team but if you disrespect us we will fuck you up." I think it worked.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||He also pretty much invented||
He also pretty much invented Sports Talk Radio, along with the Maddog. That being said, he knows nothing about college football. His opinion on the subject is worthless. I can guaranty he said the exact same thing about Charlie Weis. He loved the guy. I guess fat white guys stick together.
And "he doesn't say shit just to stir things up" does not apply to anything regarding the Mets.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||WINNER|
|5 years 12 weeks ago||Can't have one without the other...|
|5 years 14 weeks ago||...||
It's never the wrong thread for the Alaska hockey intro.
|5 years 15 weeks ago||Does anyone know if Mattison||
Does anyone know if Mattison was involved in recruiting Charles Woodson, or was that before his time?
Also, was he fired after 1996 or did he leave?
Love this hire - this guy was coaching Ray Lewis a week ago and that has to mean something to recruits. My only reservation is that he has coached very talented defenses for pretty much his entire DC career, so I'm not sure how he'll do in a more, um, "challenging" situation. That is splitting hairs, though - he looks like he knows what he's doing.
|5 years 15 weeks ago||Not to mention the fact the||
Not to mention the fact the we currently have exactly TWO commits on the offensive side of the ball, one of whom is a lineman who is on the fence. I know defense is an area of need, but teams always need WRs and QBs. We currently have none. Zero. Why would we be turning anyone away?
I'd like to think that Hoke will be able to turn this around in two weeks, but how can this possibly end well? We have 10 commits right now. 10. And that's assuming nobody else jumps ship.
|5 years 15 weeks ago||So...less than 3 weeks before||
So...less than 3 weeks before signing day and we are down to 13 commits, none of whom play QB or WR. And that's assuming Goudis remains committed, which is up in the air.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Eh. I don't buy that.||
Eh. I don't buy that. RichRod's failings had nothing to do with enthusiam or scheme, in my opinion. They had everything to do with personnel. He simply couldn't get his guys installed in time to win enough games. Three first year starting QBs in a row led to three years of ridiculous turnover ratios, and attrition and injuries on D killed any hope that we could be compotent on that side of the ball. That, coupled with the disasterous GERG hiring, sunk his ship.
I really believe it would have turned around next season. Which is why this is so frustrating. Because Michigan will never try that again. The Bo bloodline has been restored and I don't think it will ever be broken again.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||And many us us were/are on||
And many us us were/are on board with that. We saw the "Michigan way" lose to Appilachian State with half of an NFL team. We saw Oregon literally run circles around us, and afterwards feed quotes to the media like "we knew exactly what they were going to do before they did it". After 35 years, we were tired of calling rock, and wanted a real strategist at the helm.
The "Michigan way" did pretty well in the 70s, 80s and 90s. It had a great run, but I believe those days are over. Football is a game of innovation. It is dynamic and rewards those with the courage to take chances. That is why you see teams like Oregon, Auburn and Florida in the national championship game. Very few programs can get away with calling rock and winning it all these days. I really don't think it will work anymore.
This is why so many of us were behind RichRod and are dissppointed now.
I'll always support the team, but I think our school retreated when they fired RichRod. They admitted defeat. It is a sign of weakness, in my eyes, and it is deeply disappointing.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||That was encouraging. I'm||
That was encouraging. I'm glad he's likable and the alumni are behind him, because he's gonna need the help. This is a very high risk hire.
I keep hearing that Hoke is a "defensive minded" coach, but looking at his teams reveals that prior to this year, none had a better than average D-I defense. Here are the Total Defense rankings of his 8 teams:
2003 - Ball State - 71st
I know these were not top tier programs, but that is eyebrow raising. Looks to me like the guy has succeeded more with offense than anything (Ball State's Total Offense was 17th in 2008; SDSU's finished 16th this season).
I'm also not buying into the "he turned around Ball State" meme. Ball State's SOS in 2008 was 125th. They had the easiest schedule in I-A. With the exception of Navy, Central and Western Michigan, every team they beat had a losing record and a Sagarin rating of 96th or lower (many of them MUCH lower). Then they got killed by Buffalo and Tulsa. They didn't play a single ranked team all season and the only AQ opponent was 3-9 Indiana. They had a nice season, but let's not go crazy; In 2008 Ball State was a "pretty good" MAC team, nothing more.
I really don't mean to blow up your optimistic thread. I like rooting for the underdog, and I'll be in Hoke's corner. But this really is the shakiest hire I can remember at a top tier program.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Here's a quick story about a||
Here's a quick story about a college basketball coach. In the early 80s, he took over a once great program - a founding member of the ACC with 4 final four appearances and 10 conference championships under its belt - that had fallen on hard times. This is what the team did in his first three seaons as coach:
1980-81: 17-13 overall, 6-8 in conference (T-5th)
In those three years, his team went 1-6 against their hated rival, often losing by 10-20 points. By the end of season three, the alumni were FLIPPING OUT and many wanted him gone asap. Instead cooler heads prevailed and he kept his job.
It was a good decision - I am describing Mike Krzyzewski, one of the most successful coaches in the history of organized sports. If he had been fired after 3 seasons, the story would have gone much differently - for both the coach and the school.
I will support who ever David Brandon brings in, but you will never convince me that he made a good decision firing Rich Rodriguez, after 3 seasons, with 18-20 starters set to return. I believe it was enormous mistake influenced by a petulant, impatient and spoiled fanbase.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||So who meets your criteria?||
So who meets your criteria? You're basically saying you want a coach who has never made a mistake or done anything wrong in his life.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||The opposite. It's a dodge||
The opposite. It's a dodge and pretty much means he's leaving, or at least seriously considering it (IMO).
The guy is one 7-8 win season from being run out of the state of Louisiana. I can't see him staying there. He went 11-2 this year and took a ridiculous amount of shit.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||+1.||
College football coaches are all sketchy, to some degree. Les Miles didn't rob a bank - he did something just about every other coach in the SEC does. He won't be oversigning here.
I think the NCAA is gonna tackle the issue, anyway.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Well that's constructive.||
Anything in particular that you disagree with, or are you just being an ass?
|5 years 16 weeks ago||I can deal with Les. It's||
I can deal with Les. It's not a perfect fit, but it can definitely work. For all of his faults, the guy just wins. 5-1 in bowl games with a national championship under his belt. Harbaugh can't come close to that. Les can recruit, sends kids to the NFL, and I think we'd have a good shot at retaining our current players and commits with him. As crazy as it sounds, I think Les Miles would stabilize the program.
If Les is the guy, I think it's important to bring in a strong OC who can run the spread. I also think it is necessary that we start grooming either the OC or DC to be "coach-in-waiting". Les is getting old and I doubt he would be here for very long. We can't go through this bullshit again.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||Yes.||
|5 years 17 weeks ago||It's official...||
we're Notre Dame.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||Eh. Not so sure.||
Michigan was 10 for 15 (66.67%) in 2008 and 11 for 15 (73.33%) in 2009. That's not really "inconsistent" - the national median is usually ~70% and ~18-20 attempts.
In 2007, RichRod was 13 for 19 at WVU. In 2006, he was just 5 for 7.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||To answer the special teams||
To answer the special teams "questions":
No. 20 other teams attempted less than 14 field goals just this season (including Rose Bowl winner TCU - they were 11 for 13). Michigan last attempted less than 14 FG in 1992 (they went 6 for 10 that year), though they attempted only 15 in both 2008 and 2009. RichRod doesn't kick a lot of field goals.
No. Most recently, Duke went 3 for 11 in 2007 (27.3%). Kent State went 2 for 10 in 2006 (20.0%). However, dating back to 1984 (the earliest I could find records), no Michigan team has made less than 4 in a season or had a worse than 28.6% rate. I'm pretty confident it has happened, though.
/obsessive compulsive disorder
|5 years 17 weeks ago||The mood is tense!|
|5 years 17 weeks ago||(No subject)||
|5 years 17 weeks ago||That made my day. What's||
That made my day.
What's more complicated - the Lord of the Rings chart or an SEC coaching chart?
|5 years 17 weeks ago||Checking in. My||
1) Every coach should get 4 years, on principle. Anything less sets a bad precedent.
2) Despite the downer of an ending, this year's team did show improvement. The offense, specifically, has shown improvement on just about every level. We've gone from 3 to 5 to 7 wins.
3) The team is VERY young and will improve next year by virtue of age/experience alone. The youth is what caused turnovers on offense and confusion on defense. Vince Lombardi himself could not have turned this defense into a cohesive unit.
4) Special teams can turn around quickly.
5) The Big Ten, specifically Iowa and Mich St, should be worse next year. We will have a good shot at making the conference championship game.
6) It's just ONE MORE YEAR. If Harbaugh isn't available, there are no other standout candidates. No one is gonna convince me that 1st year Hoke is better than 4th year RichRod. The spread works (see Auburn, Oregon, et al) - just give it a little more time.
I think a lot of our fans are emotional right now and want RichRod fired as "punishment" for the shit we've been through over the past three years. Hopefully, David Brandon realizes that this is not a good reason to make an extremely important business decision. If it's not Harbaugh, it should be RichRod.
|5 years 17 weeks ago||RichRod has improved the team||
RichRod has improved the team to the point that, based on talent level and past performance, we can expect at least 8-9 wins in each of the next two seasons. If Harbaugh (or whoever the next coach is) can't match that, then RichRod should not be fired.
This should not be an emotional decision. You don't fire a coach to placate your fans and make them feel better about the three rebuilding seasons the program just went through. What's past is past - it's a sunk cost. The only thing that matters is what will make the team better in future, both short term and long term.
As far as I can tell, Michigan has NEVER fired a head coach. Ever. If Brandon drops the axe on a 7-6 coach with a young team that has shown improvement, expectations will be sky high. And rightly so. There is no need to go through another 2-3 rebuilding seasons.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||I prefer...|
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Is It Luck?|
|5 years 18 weeks ago||It took Bo 12 years to win a||
It took Bo 12 years to win a bowl game and he never won a national title. He only beat Ohio State twice in his first 7 seasons. If he were coaching today, I bet people would want to replace him with Harbaugh.
A little bit of patience and loyalty would be nice.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||That makes it sound much less||
That makes it sound much less credible. If he really had a good source, this would be a front page ESPN story, not just something mentioned in passing on one of the 3,000 NFL pre-game shows.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Gold Pants?||
I'll give you $350.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||I love that song!||
I love that song!
|5 years 19 weeks ago||I mean, could his analysis||
I mean, could his analysis possibly be any worse? All Denard did was break a dozen NCAA and Big Ten QB records. I hope Price does a little more research when he's, like, drafting and voting on legislation.
|5 years 20 weeks ago||Whatever they do, I hope the||
Whatever they do, I hope they frame it in brick or something. I think that would look cool.
FWIW, the Washington Nationals scoreboard is 47x102, very close to what you think Michigan's will be:
|5 years 20 weeks ago||?||
|5 years 20 weeks ago||Embarrassing. Is the Big Ten||
Embarrassing. Is the Big Ten run by a group of 11-year-olds?
|5 years 21 weeks ago||We can't discuss Michigan||
We can't discuss Michigan Football on a Michigan Sports blog message board?
I'll say it: The thread nazism is a little out-of-control lately.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||He should be smart enough,||
He should be smart enough, and decisive enough, to make that decision with the information he has in front of him now. RichRod has been here for 3 full years and has coached 36 games. What is Brandon expecting to see in the bowl game? We all know how this will go - the offense will be great, the defense and special teams will be bad. Whether we win or lose will depend on turnovers and, frankly, is largely irrelevant. That's how it's been all season.
He's either being indecisive or he is playing games, sticking to an arbitrary timetable to buy time for Harbaugh. Either way, I dont like it. He is leaving everyone - fans, alumni, all of the coaches and all of the players - in the lurch. That is not good management.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Disagree. This is a problem||
Disagree. This is a problem of Brandon's own making. We are one of the most high profile programs in the country and everyone wants to know what is going to happen to our coach. By giving them no information whatsoever, DB invites this kind of speculation from the press. And it is only going to get worse as the month goes on.
Our's AD's silence and utter lack of support for his coach only a few weeks before a big game is shameful, in my opinion. Who is going to commit with the program in this state? Who is NOT going to think about transferring?
Brandon is acting like a stubborn fool and it is making this situation much worse than it has to be. I thought this guy knew what he was doing but I have lost just about all confidence in him. I almost hope he decides to fire RichRod and is forced to change course after we blow out MSU in the Gator Bowl. If he is going to make the team fight it's way to next year then that is what they should do.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Now they'll see exactly who||
Now they'll see exactly who they will be stuck behind on the depth chart if they commit to Bama.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||If RichRod won just one big||
If RichRod won just one big ten title just about all of the negative stories would stop. At least, until the team had a bad year. It's ALL about winning and losing.
As I posted in another thread, Pete Carroll used to play cheesy songs/get emotional in his team meetings on a regular basis. But his team won, so ESPN did weekly fluff pieces on what an awesome motivator he is.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Agreed. The matte helmets||
Agreed. The matte helmets are sweet. I think that is something Michigan could do that would look awesome but not mess with our tradition at all. I actually think they look more old school than the normal, "shiny" helmets.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Maybe watching LeMichael||
Maybe watching LeMichael James has him dreaming of playing in a spread...
|5 years 21 weeks ago||In their defense, they have||
In their defense, they have been way too busy cooking up convoluted Cam Newton conspiracy theories to worry about football or recruiting. #alabamafansarefuckinginsane
|5 years 21 weeks ago||FWIW, Pete Caroll used to||
FWIW, Pete Caroll used to pull stunts like this on a weekly basis at USC. He brought the guy who sang "Lean On Me" into a team meeting for a singalong/lovefest.
Point is, when you lose, everything you do is wrong. When you win, nobody gives a shit.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Brian posted a points/yard||
Brian posted a points/yard "efficeincy" stat someone emailed to him earlier this week. It was long, but the upshot is that if we had an "average" efficiency, we would have scored an extra 110-120 points (9-10/game), which would have put us at 44-45/game. If we were as efficient as Wisconsin, it would have equated to an extra 170 points, which would put us at a Yostian 48 points/game.
Those numbers are probably overblow - RichRod would have probably put in backups and taken his foot off the gas enough to keep the point totals down, but the point remains: the sky is the limit for this offense. It would not be a stretch to expect an Oregon-like jump in 2011.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||I think yards are as||
I think yards are as important as points in evaluating the performance of an offense. Points are a function of special teams (field position/field goal kicking) in addition to offense.
Again, turnovers are directly correlated with age/experience, especially at the QB position. Michigan has had an underclassman first year starter at QB for the past 3 years. How can you possibly ignore this?
For what it's worth, Florida had 25 turnovers this year (ranked 93rd nationally). And hey look - they has a first year starter at QB. I guess Urban Meyer forgot to tell Brantly not to turn the ball over. Notre Dame? 24 turnovers. Again, first year starter (a bunch of them, actually). Oklahoma State? 22. First year starter.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Not to have this arguement||
Not to have this arguement AGAIN, but is it your opinion that Iowa, OSU, MSU and Illinois let us march up and down the field at will because they knew we would turn the ball over or miss a field goal once we got to the red zone?
Of course we scored less points because of turnovers, but that is a stat that will improve as our skill position players get older. And if you don't believe that, you must at least believe that they are random. It is not a product of the system - RichRod's Clemson and WVU teams did not turn the ball over this much.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||Response||
First of all, no one is saying that RichRod is a genius who deserves to be Michigan's coach until he retires. All we are asking for is ONE MORE YEAR. We see a ton of potential here and know it would be foolish and borderline negligent to let it go.
I said in another post that RichRod needs to beat MSU, OSU and get us to the Big Ten Championship game next year. Anything less and he should be fired, barring extraordinary circumstances. I would think most people here agree with that, more or less. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
To address point-by-point:
I agree - he has not done a good job retaining talent, and the defensive recruiting has been lacking. That being said, there is always attrition during a coaching transition, so we are willing to give him a little slack. It's not like anyone who left is tearing it up at other major programs.
This is circular logic. We haven't beaten them because they have been better than us. You shouldn't fire a coach for failing to regularly upset bitter rivals.
This is kind of a ridiculous argument. Our offense has performed better against bad defenses than good defenses? Obviously. We put up 351 yards on OSU, as much as any other team on their schedule (Miami put up 352). We put up 442 against Wisconsin, as much as any other team on their schedule (MSU put up 444 in Wisc's only loss). We put up over 500 against Iowa and over 600 against Illinois. Those are the top 4 defenses in the Big Ten.
Irrelevant. ALL programs go through rebuilding years. There are no exceptions to this. It was going to happen here eventually, and all things considered, 2 sub .500 seasons in 45 years is pretty fucking amazing. Actually, it's unheard of. Give him one more year. If we get 9-10 wins, we're back on track. If not, he's gone.
|5 years 21 weeks ago||The change in attitude is a||
The change in attitude is a result of the way Brandon has handled the coaching situation. Not throwing his full support behind RichRod is a very, very big deal. In sports (or any field for that matter), that amounts to a vote of no confidence and it signals a change is coming. If he wants Harbaugh, I think we can all live with it, but he has to act now. Waiting a month should not be an option, as it will further erode the team.
RichRod has coached 36 games at Michigan and has been here for 3 full years. What more "data" does he need? A good leader is decisive and knows when to pull the trigger. David Brandon is acting hesitant and stubborn, and it just cost us our top recruit. I agree with the original poster - I don't know who in their right mind would commit to play for this team right now, and I imagine just about everyone on the team is considering other options. Our AD doesn't believe in our coach - why should they?
|5 years 22 weeks ago||I guess that's a possibility,||
I guess that's a possibility, but I think it's pretty standard for a coach to leave (or at least annouch he is leaving) before a bowl game. And if Brandon is talking to Harbaugh, this should not be negotiable. If he wants the job, he must announce now. It's pretty much a given that he is leaving Stanford within the next year, anyway - NFL rumors have been swirling for months.
But it goes back to my original point - if we're hearing nothing we have to assume that they are talking to someone, right?
|5 years 22 weeks ago||Harbaugh is already going to||
Harbaugh is already going to be peppered with questions about it. It will be non stop until Brandon states, definitively, that RichRod is staying. Not saying anything makes it worse.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||Again, I'm on the RichRod||
Again, I'm on the RichRod train. I think he's a better coach than Harbaugh and gives us a better chance to win over the next 5-10 years. BUT, if Brandon must feed the wolves and can him, I don't think there's any question that Harbaugh is the man to replace him. Real quick:
1) Michigan man who wants to be here.
I really can't believe it has come to this. I think firing a coach after just 3 seasons, all while showing clear improvement each year, is a terrible precedent to set and dimishes the program. RichRod uprooted his whole life to come here (he received death threats) and we owe him loyalty.
I also hate the idea of going back to "calling rock". Stanford is great but they have been slaughtered by Oregon for the past two seasons and aren't really serious contenders for a national championship (well...who knows). That sounds a little bit like 2000-2007 Lloyd Carr to me. I am woping for a Florida-style dynasty. But he is a good coach.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||How can he not make some kind of decision right now?||
This is very straiht forward. You either:
1) Fire RichRod and the whole staff and bring in Harbaugh,
I prefer 2, but not matter what you think, waiting is the worst option here. It will kill recruiting and keep the websites/newspapers/talk radio stations burning for a month. Plus, if we are bringing in Harbaugh, he will need as much time as possible to put a staff together, deal with defections and recruit on his own.
I like Brandon, but we NEED a decision one way or the other over the next few days. He must know this. The fact that he hasn't said anything to support RichRod yet leads me to believe that he is talking to Harbaugh.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||That is simply not true.||
That is simply not true. This team has a very good offense. Going into the OSU game, the O was at the top of the Big Ten in just about every offensive category. Even with the turnovers, Michigan was averaging 34.3 pts/game in conference games, which was 3rd (Illinois was at 35.8 and Wisc 41.7). And that's without playing Minnesota or Northwestern. Michigan scored TDs 67.74% of the times it reached the red zone in Big Ten games, second only to Wisconsin.
This was, by just about any measure, either the best or second best offense in the Big Ten. And it was run but an injury-prone sophomore first year starter at QB and a RB-by-commitee. I agree with what Brian said - if you are arguing that RichRod should be fired because the O has underperformed, you are really grasping at straws.
|5 years 22 weeks ago||Yeah. Michigan actually||
Yeah. Michigan actually finished the year with the exact same number of Interceptions (14) and Fumbles Lost (13) as last season. In 2008, it was 13 Ints and 15 Fumbles Lost. This makes sense, of course - we have had a first year starter at QB each of the past 3 seasons.
This has nothing to do with the way RichRod coaches. It's not like he has to remind his QBs and RBs not to drop the ball. Young teams turn the ball over. That's just the way it is. I agree - this stat should improve over the next two seasons.
Another reason for not scoring despite all of the yards is a terrible field goal kicking game. This, too, should improve.
The Big Ten was very strong at the top this year. OSU, Wisc, Iowa and MSU all had a ton of returning starters and very good, experienced QBs. That will change next year. We're returning something like 18-19 starters. We should be a top 3 Big Ten team in 2011, with 9-10 wins and a New Years Bowl. The new D coordinator is key. They have to bring in someone with a proven college track record.
|5 years 23 weeks ago||I know this is a de-rail,||
I know this is a de-rail, but...
Yes, that is the team we used to be. And it worked - back in the 70s, 80s and early 90s. From 98-07, we did nothing but call "rock" with our supremely talented, "tough, hard-nosed" players. It got us to the Rose Bowl a bunch of times, where we usually got schooled. Northwestern hung 50 on us, and we got beat at home by App State and Oregon. Most of us got sick of calling rock a long time ago.
Wisconsin is a great team this year, but this is as good as they will ever be. What did Bielema say about Denard? "We don't recruit that way here"?? What, he doesn't recruit fast, athletic players who are good at football? What an absolutely idiotic statement.
They're gonna win the Big Ten at 11-1, go to the Rose Bowl and get embarrassed by Oregon. That is EXACTLY the team we used to be.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||Because if they don't punish||
Because if they don't punish the student for the behavior of their parents, then the parent of every top player in the country would start demanding money for their kid to play. They will use it as a shield.
This is also why they punish schools for the behavior of their boosters. If they didn't, it would be too easy to use a booster as a "loophole" to pay for players.
The NCAA puts the oneous on the school to police this.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||On the plus side, Stanford||
On the plus side, Stanford would probably crush them.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||I know it probably won't||
I know it probably won't happen, but if the Texas Bowl turns into Texas v. Michigan in the old Cotton Bowl, that would be amazing.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||This is what's great about||
This is what's great about college football, in my opinion. The ebb and flow. Florida had Tebow, which was a boon for 3-4 years but directly hampered their recruiting in the long run. They could have had Denard and/or Cam Newton at QB this year. Cam left because he would have been stuck behind Tebow and he was too good to sit out for 2-3 years. Denard declined because they wanted to make him a WR (right?) - they were too stacked at QB to even let him try.
You can't continuously bring in top 4-5 star guys. More than anything, players want playing time so they can showcase themselves for the NFL. I think Florida and Texas are feeling the effects of this. And I think Alabama is reaching a critical mass, too (see Dee Hart - he would have been buried on the depth chart there - he could play as a Freshman at Michigan).
|5 years 24 weeks ago||I figure this is worth||
I figure this is worth re-posting here. Might come in handy over the next two weeks/months/years:
|5 years 24 weeks ago||When in doubt, just search||
When in doubt, just search "Tom Hammond" on EDSBS.
Edit: OMG there's a "Deal With It" app and I did this:
|5 years 24 weeks ago||OK, I guess I have to...||
|5 years 24 weeks ago||Wasn't it senior day, when||
Wasn't it senior day, when all seniors traditionally walk onto the field after the game?
|5 years 24 weeks ago||I have to jump in here. You||
I have to jump in here. You are not being "intelligent". You are being a troll. There are MANY people here who have voiced MANY negative opinions about RichRod, Greg Robinson, and the team in general. If it's done in an INTELLIGENT manner, it is absolutely tolerated.
You came into the "congrats RichRod" an hour after a win to piss in everyone's cheerios, which is why you are getting negged into oblivion. Oh, we're not as good as we were under Carr? Thanks for the insider info, future AD. All of your argiements have been hashed, re-hashed and re-re-hashed literally 1000 times for the past 2 years. We haven't beaten good teams. Our standards are lower. We get it.
We won a road game in the Big Ten in November. This has generally been a difficult thing for Michigan to do, even under Carr. If you're a fan, take some time to actually enjoy it. I'm sure that's what our AD is doing right now.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||O/U is 61.5. Moral dilema -||
O/U is 61.5. Moral dilema - bad to take an O/U on your own team? I never do.
In other news, Utah -4.0 at Notre Dame? That seems like a steal, TCU destruction notwithstanding.
|5 years 24 weeks ago||Because the world needs||
Because the world needs villians, and when RichRod had the audacity to leave his good job for an even better, higher paying job (a decision most people, if put in a similar situation, would have made), the media collectively decided that he was a bad guy forever.
Sports fans, especially those who root for bad teams, need something that they can grab onto - someone they can root against no matter who they play. And the media needs a narrative for everything. Right now, the narrative is RichRod = traitor; Cam Newton = kid who overcame adversity to become the best player in college football.
|5 years 25 weeks ago||I though the same thing, but||
I though the same thing, but this is what the top 4 offenses in the country did this week:
Oregon - 522 yards
|5 years 25 weeks ago||(eyeroll)||
It actually took a fair amount of effort to compile this. I posted something similar a few weeks ago and people seemed to appreciate it. It also generated some discussion in the comments. But if people are gonna bitch, I won't bother. You can spend an hour and google it yourself, I guess. Sorry to waste your time on the internet.
Michigan was not 4th in scoring offense last week. You're probably thinking of total offense.
|5 years 25 weeks ago||676 yards of offense against||
676 yards of offense against the 15th best defense in the country, our backup QB playing most of the second half, and 5 turnovers? Not embarrassed. Everyone knows our d is terrible. We just need wins.
Meanwhile, is it me or did Demens look kinda great today?
|5 years 25 weeks ago||Please...||
someone make it into a "deal with it" glasses gif...
|5 years 25 weeks ago||Illinois has held every team||
Illinois has held every team they've faced this season well below their season averages in both yards and points. Offensively, this might be Michigan's toughest challenge yet. You could make the case that the Illinois defense is just as good as Iowa's.
Rich Rod needs to be aggressive early. Our offensive numbers are great, but I feel that too much of the production is coming late in the game, with our opponents in prevent or slow down mode. Open up the playbook in the first quarter and get them off balance. I would like to see our offense really put together a complete game ala UConn.
|5 years 27 weeks ago||You can't have one...||
...without the other: (yeah, it's a double post, but let's just leave it up. For effect.)
|5 years 27 weeks ago||You can't have one...||
...without the other:
|5 years 28 weeks ago||Real Quick on the Scoring D||
The reason the scoring D and total D are so far apart in the rankings is turnovers. We had 7 or 8 turnovers in our first five games, most (all?) of which were on our side of the field, many in the red zone.
We havent recovered a turnover since the Indiana game, so the scoring D/total D numbers are normalizing. They were 75/112 last week and are 82/105 now. We rarely force punts - opponents have attempted just 7 against us all year (they are 7/7, by the way).
|5 years 28 weeks ago||A few more:||
http://www.cfbstats.com - updated every monday and easy to search.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com - has historical records/results and ranking info for just about every football program in the country.
Edit - Michigan-specific stats:
Record Book (pdf): http://www.mgoblue.com/photos/schools/mich/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/fbl-...
Stat Archive: http://stats.ath.umich.edu/football/footstart.php
Bentley Library Football Archive: http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept/football/football.htm
|5 years 28 weeks ago||Maybe they'll hire GERG? That||
Maybe they'll hire GERG? That would kill, like, 8 birds with one stone.
|5 years 28 weeks ago||Quick response to the||
Quick response to the penatly/special teams thing:
Coming into today's game, Michigan was one of the least penalized teams in the country, averaging just 4.5/game. That's pretty good for a young team.
Over the last three games, Hagerup has averaged, 48, 47 and 50 yards/punt. For reference, the best punter in the country averages 48.5.
Yeah, the kick returning has been kinda meh, and yeah, we can't find a field goal kicker (which is not uncommon in college football), but the idea that penalties and special teams are KILLING US is a little far fetched. Most of the special teams problems today came from one guy: Broekhuizen.
If you wanna rip RichRod for not putting together a good defense, OK. But blaming him for his kicker inexplicably booting two out of bounds, or for Taylor Lewan getting another personal foul, is a bit much. It's college football. Shit happens. Even to good teams.
|5 years 28 weeks ago||Super Bow Rings...||
...Charlie Weis has three of them.
Success in the pros does not always translate to success in the NCAA.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||It's also a night game, which||
It's also a night game, which I didn't realize. Wisco is really good at home at night. That's good for a few points. Still, I like OSU for anything less than a TD.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||OSU -4.5? That seems like||
OSU -4.5? That seems like highway robbery. Does Vegas know something? I guess some people are skittish after OSU's last road game, but still. Maybe Pryor is hurt?
Also, why does Vegas love us so much? What makes them think Iowa is worse than MSU?
I'm interested to see the what happens in the MSU game. I don't think I would bet on it, but I can see a letdown for them. If they're gonna have a Sparty NO! moment this season, this is the time.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||That sucks. I understand the||
That sucks. I understand the University protecting their trademarks, but FREE wallpaper? This is RIAA-esque. Threatening your biggest fans with lawsuits is generally not a good business strategy.
I hope you get it sorted out.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Brett Favre, ladies and||
Brett Favre, ladies and gantlemen!
|5 years 29 weeks ago||This is America. If you are||
This is America. If you are successful at your job and, through hard work and innovation, earn a better, higher paying job, you are not supposed to take it. If you do you are a douchebag.
I wish I had a dollar for every ridiculous claim I've heard about our coach this week. He orders cheap shots, he yells at players (the horror!), he shuts off hot water in the visitor's locker room after losses (really? really).
Also, I wonder if BHGP has sililar thoughts re: Oregon and Nebraska.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||What did you see last year||
What did you see last year that really blew you away? Giving up two late game touchdowns to a 6 foot nothing true freshman QB? Hanging 20 points on our craoptacular defense at home?
I think D'Antonio is a good coach, but let's not lionize this guy because he beat us a few years in a row when we were down. EVERYONE beat us in 2008 and 2009. Even Purdue. D'Antonio has yet to win a bowl game at MSU. In three seaaons, he managed to get his team into the final AP poll once - a 24 ranking at the end of 2008.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Aren't most/all teams "only||
Aren't most/all teams "only as good as" their starting QB? I don't see that as some sort of inherant weakness in our gameplan. That's just the way football is.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||What does it have to be one||
What does it have to be one or the other? We have one of the worst defenses in I-A - there is plenty of blame to go around.
I think the "meddling RichRod" theory holds water. It's pretty clear that the 3-3-5 business is his doing and needless to say, it has NOT worked out. However, Greg Robinson has not put together an above average defense since the turn of the millenium. Texas was better both before he came and after he left. I like Schafer but WTF has he done at Syracuse? They were 4-8 last year and gave up 28 points/game, which is WORSE than where Michigan is at right now. They have looked good this year against the Colegates and Akrons of the world, but Washington dropped 41 on them. Do you really think they would have fared much better than us against Notre Dame, Michigan State and Indiana?
If Rodriguez really is meddling, then he needs to stop. But bad hires have a lot to do with the failures of the defense.
They need to bring in a strong DC with a proven track record and give him complete autonomy.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Agree with the terrible hire||
Agree with the terrible hire comment. Greg Robinson's numbers since he left Texas in 2004 are atrocious. I mean look at how his defenses ranked in I-A:
Apparently HE called Michigan asking for the job. The guy's only claim to fame is that he was the DC for the 97-98 Denver Broncos, which is downright Weis-ian. I would be perfectly happy if they fired him tomorrow.
Having a head coach who does not focus on defense and a terrible DC is not a winning combination.
Edit: Both Texas and Syracuse improved significantly after Gerg left. Texas went from 23rd to 10th in total D, and won a national championship. Cuse went from 102 to 37. Michigan was at 67 in total D before Gerg showed up, and the numbers have been moving steadily downhill ever since. What makes people think this guy is a good college coach??
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Agree 100%. But there is a||
Agree 100%. But there is a difference between "crappy" and "historically terrible". Again, we're sitting at 112 right now with our easiest games all behind us. Over 450 yards/game. Do we have less talent than, say, San Jose State? RIce? UNLV? Louisana Monroe?
I'm not trying to start a huge arguement - I support RichRod, blah blah blah. But let's not act like the Michigan defense consists of a bunch of cripples. I would guess there are a number of I-A teams that would love to have J.T. Floyd or Cam Gordon as starters.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Is our defense really that||
Is our defense really that young and lacking in talent? Of the 11 starters, 6 are upperclassmen, including all 3 linemen and 2 out of 3 linebackers. Except for Kovacs, all 11 starters were rated 3* or higher by Rivals - five were 4*. The only true freshman to start any games for us on defense is Carvin Johnson, and he has missed the majority of the season with injury.
A lot of our recruits have not panned out, but to have the 112th ranked defense with a bunch of 3* and 4* guys is unnerving. We're now halfway through the season and the D is getting progressively worse. The coaches derserve scrutiny. We have more talent that at least half of the 120 teams in I-A.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Double Post||
|5 years 29 weeks ago||I'll bite...||
I think Brandon is level headed and realizes that at this point, firing RichRod would be completely counterproductive, regardless of how bad the results are on the field and what the media thinks. Barring completely unforseen circumstances, he will be fine at 8-4 or 7-5. 6-6 would raise A LOT of eyebrows, and that's the point he enters the danger zone. Needless to say, all bets are off if we finish 5-7.
Denard will almost certainly start regardless of who the coach is. He's simply too good.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Not that it really matters||
Not that it really matters with our toughest games coming up, but the offense is also on pace to shatter the Michigan record for yards/game. Going back to 1936, the only year Michigan averaged more that 450 yds/game was 1992 (466.9). This team is currently at 533.7. The 2009 team finished at 384.5. They were at ~445.0 through the same portion of the schedule (OOC, Indiana and MSU).
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Didn't mean the fake should||
Didn't mean the fake should have necessarily been on that kick. And I'm also not so sure about that 40% number. What are we, 2 of 7 on field goals this year? And nothing over 40 yards, right? Seems like we would have been better off throwing to the end zone. Gotta be 20-25% chance at 7 pts. Would have changed the game.
I just kinda feel RichRod was a little anxious/conservative today. He threw the ball WAY more than normal. I know we don't want to get DRob hurt, but if there ever was a game to put into his hands, this was it. Today we ran the ball 34 times and passed 29. We're usually at a 2/1 run/pass clip. Very unusual for RIchRod. His ratio is usually like clockwork.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||I completely agree with Angry||
I completely agree with Angry Guy on point 2 - would have liked to see better play calling. Try a fake or something. That field goal at the end of the half was a disaster waiting to happen. The punt with 5-6 minutes left in the 4th - WTF was that? I also feel that we panicked once we went down. Should have run the ball more - that's our bread and butter.
As bad as that was, if we played mistake free and were a little more agressive, we would have won.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||STAY. THE. COURSE.||
This offense works. They got bottled up today by an experienced, well coached team that threw our young QB off his game. It happens. This is a good system and a solid defense will come. Our coach is a good guy who cares, knows how to develop talent, and is recruiting on a national level. Football is tough and good teams lose. Bama looked unstoppable 7 days ago and got creamed today.
STAY. THE. COURSE. Recalibrate. Beat Iowa next week. Get 8-9 wins. Play up for Ohio State. This is a 4-5 year plan, and we're on track. Get behind Denard. Kid played his heart out.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||Haha. Sorry for stating up||
Haha. Sorry for stating up the anti-stat thread. My bad.
I love the "State will try to bottle up Denard!" meme. As if ND and Indiana's game plan was to ingore him and hope he, like, forgets which team he plays for or something. Defenses have been keying on Denard since the second quarter of the UConn game. And RichRod has dealt with this before (Danzler, White). We'll be ready. And, considering how well our receivers have been playing, we'll be able to exploit it.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||I'll disagree. Their three||
I'll disagree. Their three cupcakes were really bad. Significantly worse than any team we have faced, including Bowling Green. Saragin:
State: WMU = 152; FAU = 131; N. CO = 181; ND = 44; Wisc = 33
They basically have one good game to hang their hats on - Wisconsin. That was an impressive win. Aside from that, it's total cupcakes and Notre Dame, all at home. WMU and FAU are Bowling Green lite, and N. Colorado is not much better than Delaware State.
And check out the rush offense ranks of their first 4 opponents:
WMU = 114; FAU = 116; N. CO = FCS; ND = 97
They held Wisconsin to 165 on the ground, which is well below their season average, but Clay was gimpy and his backup averaged 9.8 yds/carry on 10 carries. State thinks they have an awesome rush defense that is going to crush Denard. I'm not so sure about that.
Not saying this proves anything, but these guys had a cake walk for the first month of the season.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||ESPN...||
...has gonna off the fucking rails with Denard lately. 2-3 articles per day, every day this week. As a huge M fan and alum, even I'M a little sick of reading about him already.
Kinda makes you wonder why they didn't bring gameday to Ann Arbor. I think they've got us lined up for next week if we win.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||FYI||
Rittenberg picked us over UConn 28-27 and also picked us over ND 31-30.
So, yeah...this all means nothing anyway, except anyother guy thinks it will be a close, high scoring game. What else is new?
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Weren't USC players allowed||
Weren't USC players allowed to transfer without penalty because of the NCAA sanctions? Did he transfer before this? Or am I just wrong?
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Ways to discredit your college football prediction:||
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Am I the only one who is not||
Am I the only one who is not too into this? I mean, it looks cool, but it is a straight ripoff of Penn State, and the whole "maize out" idea is a straight rip off of Duke.
It's an outdoor football game in the midwest - color coordination does not seem necessary. Our students are clever enough - I'd like to see them come up with something new.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||To point #1 - comparasion of||
To point #1 - comparison of Saragin ratings:
So yeah, the competition has been significantly better this year.
To points #2 and 3, who is downplaying injuries and Denard? The numbers show that our offense is 80 yards/game better. The issue is that our defense is 80 yards/game worse, which calls into question how much this team has improved, overall. For the record, I'm a big RichRod supporter and I'm optimistic.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||I don't have stats for each||
I don't have stats for each possession, but I can show you this (again, including just the 4 OOC games and Indiana):
Total Time of Possession
Total Plays From the Line of Scrimmage
So the tempo on offense is almost exactly the same. RichRod is nothing if not consistent.
Edit: On Defense -
Total Plays from the Line of Scrimmage (Opponents)
So even though the time of possession is the same, the defense is seeing an extra 8 plays/game, 3/4 of which are passes. That is significant. This was heavily skewed by the yesterday's game - Indiana threw the ball 64 times.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Good point. Forcier||
Good point. Forcier definitely lost a lot of steam after the MSU and Iowa games.
The other caveat is that our schedule was probably tougher this year. UConn, UMass and Indiana have much better passing offenses than their 2009 counterparts. Notre Dame is worse (with a new coach and without Tate and Clausen), but they still throw the ball a lot. There's some hope that we will be able to limit Penn State, Illiinois and Purdue's passing offenses. SOME hope.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Will we ever see better? 494||
Will we ever see better? 494 yards and 5 tds? My God this is incredible. At this point, we just have to sit back and watch. He's on another level. Yeah, I want to our team to make a new year's day bowl. But for now, let's just watch Denard and be happy.
|5 years 30 weeks ago||Wikipedia:||
|5 years 31 weeks ago||It would probably be||
It would probably be difficult to put together a schedule easier than Indiana's through weeks 1-4. Their SOS is ranked 200th by Sagarin. That's worse that 80 FCS teams. It's worse that half of the Ivy league. And they already had a bye week.
The fact that they're not top 20 in every offensive and defensive category should give us comfort.
|5 years 31 weeks ago||My boredom knows no||
My boredom knows no bounds:
UConn - 53rd (394.0 yds/game)
For what it's worth, we held both UConn and Bowling Green to around 50 yards below their season averages. Notre Dame went wild on us. If you really want to stretch it, though, they pretty much hit their season average if you take away the 95 yards TD implosion.
|5 years 31 weeks ago||True. But I guess we can||
True. But I guess we can operate under the assumption that nobody has. Here are the national rankings of the defenses we have played:
UConn - 54th
Here's Ohio St.:
And all of the Big Ten defenses, because HOLY SHIT I'm bored today:
Iowa - 1st (227.5 yds/game)
|5 years 31 weeks ago||The defensive numbers are bad||
The defensive numbers are bad but kinda interesting. We're 93rd in total yards allowed (exactly 400.0/game) and 64th in points allowed (23.0). Howeva, we are middle of the pack in rush yards allowed (62nd) and are tied for 15th in interceptions, with 6. It's not ideal, but "bend don't break" is kinda sorta working. Considering the personnel we have, I think the D is pretty much playing to expectations.
We are a few good defensive recruits away from being a legitimate FORCE. But I guess a lot of teams can say that.
|5 years 31 weeks ago||Awesome.||
As far as I can tell. the last time Michigan played a non-bowl neutral site game was October 14, 1950 against #1-ranked Army in Yankee Stadium.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Oregon State:||
I just wanted to say good luck; We're all counting on you.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Agreed.||
Should have just wraped him up. If he gets dragged a bit for a 2 yard gain, not a big deal. Instead, he went for the big play and gave the RB the edge. I feel like we've seen this for 3 straight years now from our LBs.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||First of all, if we're good||
First of all, if we're good enough to beat ND on the road then we're good enough to win 7-8 games this year. They clearly won't all be easy, but that should give us some comfort. A lot of good teams have scares like this. No need to panic.
The really disheartening thing about this game was the defense's inability to stop the run. Considering the state of our secondary, I understand giving up 800 yards on short passes and "keeping everything in front of you". I actually think that is a viable strategy. Forcing a team to throw leads to sacks, dropped passes, interceptions, etc. We can win that way. In fact, we had this game shorn up - got an interception up 18 with under 10 minutes to play. If Gordon just holds onto that ball, we win by at least 11, probably 18 or 25 and everything is fine.
But giving up 5-7 yards/rush was really alarming. 2 sacks through 3 games is really alarming. If it's the scheme, then GERG needs to work shit out asap.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||No||
An enormous scoreboard would look completely out-of-place at Michigan Stadium, IMO. Our house has a classic look - we don't need to turn it into Blade Runner. And frankly, with no advertisements, a huge screen is completely unnecessary.
They should build something reasonably-sized that looks kinda retro. You're there to watch the game, not the scoreboard. And use bricks - everyone loves bricks.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||Expectations: lowered. 415||
Expectations: lowered. 415 yards to an FCS team (so far) is ominous. Indiana on the road will clearly be a challenge. This D hangs back too much and waits for turnovers. It's UMass - play up.
|5 years 34 weeks ago||Just wanted to add to the||
Just wanted to add to the calvacade of thank yous. This preview has been quite a fucking thing.
So we probably all know what it's like to root for a team that doesn't always win. We're not used to that with Michigan, but here we are. Yes, we're in a hole that we're gonna have to fight our way out of, but I wouldn't have it any other way. This is how all great stories begin. We have the Big Ten right where we want them.
And if all else fails, Google will be right there to provide images of kittens.
|5 years 45 weeks ago||[Posted in wrong place. I||
[Posted in wrong place. I slap my self on the wrist.]
|5 years 45 weeks ago||Spolier Alert!||
|5 years 46 weeks ago||This post is really begging||
This post is really begging for a scatterplot...
|5 years 46 weeks ago||I am a New Yorker. There are||
I am a New Yorker. There are people here who care about college sports, but they are ALL Big Ten, SEC and (to a lesser extent) ACC alumni. Joining would be a BOON to Rutgers - they would sell out every conference game easily with visiting fans alone. Which would be kind of a joke in and of itself.
|5 years 46 weeks ago||I have a big problem with||
I have a big problem with conferences that make no geographic sense, so I was never on board with Texas. Notre Dame, Nebraska, Missouri and Pitt have always made the most sense for us. Keep it local.
Can someone explain the Rutgers obsession to me? The Big Ten network is on every NYC-area cable network that I know of. And there are probably more Big Ten alumni in the NYC area that Rutgers alumni. What does adding Rutgers get us, exactly?
|5 years 47 weeks ago||Maybe I'm offbase, but I do||
Maybe I'm offbase, but I do not want our football team to turn into that of Northwestern. They occasionally play in a bowl game and are ranked in the top 25. That's great. I expect a little more.
I think these fake, arbitrary admissions standards for athletes are bullshit. The vast majority of these guys wouldn't have be admitted unless they were athletes. And they bring in an ENORMOUS amount of money for the school. In my opinion, you can't have it both ways - either hold everyone to the same standards or let in all of the recruits who qualify by the NCAA. If they fail out of school, they're out. Doresy wasn't even given that chance.
Brian put it perfectly: we're "Prostitutes who won't do THAT." The schoold looks ridiculous here.
|5 years 47 weeks ago||Ridiculous||
Does this mean we're now Stanford/Northwestern/Notre Dame? We'll make one bowl game a decade, but hey - our academic standards are, sometimes, when we want them to be, slightly better than those of USC, Florida and UNC!
This is just so stupid. Doresy was recruited by UofM to play football, which is the path he has chosen in life. What's the difference if he had a 2.6 or 2.8 GPA in high school? He is an exceptional person because of his athletic ability - that should be enough to get him into a public university that puts and emphasis on athletics.
Another blackeye for the school.
|5 years 47 weeks ago||Agreed||
Brandon needs to make this right. Recruiting a top player and then not admitting him 4 months later (despite the fact that he's qualified) makes us look terrible. Commitments run both ways. A former CEO should recognize this. We are all "Michigan", and despite the fact that we all want high academic standards, re-negging on a deal hurts all of us.
|5 years 47 weeks ago||The Big Leads of the world||
The Big Leads of the world definitely make things more difficult for you, but the media world is changing fast and I think people are rapidly getting over the assumption that every blog is Perez Hilton. My grandfather will probably never accept a blog as a legitimate news source, but on the flip side there is a whole generation coming of age now who grew up with the web and I believe they intuitively understand its nuances better than the 40 or 50-somethings who are still forwarding around chain e-mails.
I really believe that, over time, people will flock to where the best content is. If you write it, they will come.
|5 years 47 weeks ago||"Then why did you post||
"Then why did you post it?
MCINTYRE: It was the middle of a Tuesday. That's why I ran it."
I do think the Yardbarker woman is right, though. You shouldn't necessarily lump yourself in with other blogs. A blog is just a format - a way of presenting information. The fact that some blogs have more integrity than others is not lost on the vast majority of readers. In the end, the cream will rise and people seeking information will go to the sources they can trust and not a Deadspin copycat just looking for page views.
The above quote is maddenning, though, when you consider the fact that the subjects of these completely unsubstantiated rumors are PEOPLE with brains and feelings and families. I don't buy the "they're rich and famous and in the public eye so they can take it" excuse. Maybe Shayne Graham has, like, a wife and your little "slow Tuseday" fake rumor ruined his marriage. I also don't think the three sources rule is arbitrary. It was developed by journalists over the decades for a reason.
|6 years 6 weeks ago||"The only thing "Rich||
"The only thing "Rich Rodriguez" spread in this team is they play out of the shotgun and run no huddle. There really isn't a spread identity to this team--expecially because they don't run the spread-read-option."
Is this a joke? Michigan doesn't run the read option??
And why is Rich Rodriguez in quotes? Do you not believe that is his real name?
|6 years 8 weeks ago||Literally ever single Big Ten||
Literally ever single Big Ten team has more fans in NY/NJ than Rutgers. Michigan probably has 10x as many fans here. They are a total non-entity. I couldn't even tell you which channel they were on. If you went into a bar in NYC and asked them to put the Rutgers game on you would probably get laughed at.
This is a terrible fit, and will bring nothing to the Big Ten.
|6 years 9 weeks ago||You can't put an exact win||
You can't put an exact win total on it. I generally believe that, as long as he doesn't break the law or do something monumentally stupid, a coach should get at least 4 years. Weis got 5.
For Notre Dame, the win total didn't matter. Everyone knew that Weis was a goner after the Navy and UConn losses. He recruited well, got his guys on the field and they consistently underperformed. When we get to that point with RichRod, we'll all know it.
As it is, RichRod still has a chance to turn it around. The team has been extremely unstable with a high turnover rate for 2 years now. When things things normalize and Rod's recruits see the field, the clock will start ticking, in my opinion.
Barring a 1, 2 or 3 win season, I don't see Michigan firing RichRod after 2010. Yes, I think he will still be here if we go 4-8. Michigan will be (and should be) at least as patient as Notre Dame. I do not believe the Irish kept Weis around for too long - they made the right moves with him (aside from the terrible contract, but that's only money).
|6 years 9 weeks ago||It would take some kind of||
It would take some kind of Weisian team meltdown for me to advocate firing RichRod. 4 straight years of losing would probably do it.
Even if I hated the guy personally (which I don't), I just think it would set the school back too much to have to go through another coaching search and regime change. Things are bad now, but it would be even worse if we lost half of our team (again) and our entire coaching staff (again).
|6 years 10 weeks ago||Funny, this:||
"What is happening right now obviously is not working. I don't know how long they're going to let this last until changes are made."
...is exactly what I was saying after the first two games of 2007.
What is this "we can't have 3 losing years at Michigan!" "somebody think of the children!!" bullshit? We have had 3 losing years at Michigan in the past. Every other team in every other sport, professional or otherwise, has had 3 losing years. We're rebuilding. It takes time.
Some of our fans, ex-players included, are spoiled brats. You don't get automatic W's for putting a winged helmet on, Morgan. You have to fucking work, scratch and claw for success.
What does he want us to do, spend $10 million/year and hire Urban Meyer or something? Jesus Christ this is getting ridiculous. Have some fucking patience.
|6 years 10 weeks ago||This confused the hell out of||
This confused the hell out of me, too, so I looked it up. It turns out the "hammer" does not switch off from team to team after each end. Instead, when a team scores a point in an end, the other team gets the hammer for the next end. If no points are scored at all, the same team keeps the hammer for the next end.
Teams usually want to get two points when they have the hammer. If a team has the hammer and can only get one point, it is a good strategy to "blank the end" so they can keep the hammer for the next end and try to get two. I would think this is especially true when a team is losing.
|6 years 10 weeks ago||Whoa Whoa Whoa||
Pump the brakes, Beavis. Let's not go overboard here.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||According to the show (which||
According to the show (which included input from doctors), it's the amount of liquid. There is a valve at the bottom of your stomach that only allows liquid to trickle out slowly. If you drink enough of ANY liquid, your stomach will fill up and it will trigger a gag reflex. Even if Andre's stomach was enormously large (like 2 gallons) and he had no gag reflex whatsoever (more or less impossible), at some point his body would be so filled with liquid it would fill his esophagus and would literally be coming out his mouth and nose. This would happen WAY before he got to 11 gallons.
And of course, that amount of alcohol would have killed him 3 times over.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||OK guys||
This is obviously bullshit. 119 12 oz cans is over 11 gallons. An office water cooler is 5 gallons. You cannot fit 2 water coolers worth of liquid into a human stomach, even a 7'5" human stomach. And that's completely ignoring the lethal amount of alcohol that much beer contains.
I saw a Mythbusters-type show on TV a few years ago that proved it is more or less impossible for a human to chug a gallon of milk without puking (I think the time limit was a half hour). The liquid would fill your stomach and trigger a gag reflex.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||FWIW||
If Dorsey had actually spent time in jail I do not think he would be on the team right now. And he certainly will not be on the team if he gets into any trouble while at school.
I've never heard of a team allowing a player to walk right out of prison and onto the field. That would not even happen in the NFL these days. Hell, I think any student (athlete or not) can be expelled for a felony conviction. I still don't know how D'Antonio got away with it.
|6 years 12 weeks ago||The most ridiculous part of||
The most ridiculous part of his rant is the assertion that black teenagers from rough neighborhoods are getting special treatment in the criminal justice system because they are good at football.
What the fuck planet is this guy living on?? Does his think judges are letting armed robbery slide because a kid has an offer to play Safety at UF? Yes, NFL players get special treatment - because they are RICH and FAMOUS. Demar Dorsey is neither. The DA is not gonna do him any favors because he is ranked #12 on ESPN's top 150.
What a fucking embarrassment. The UM student is right - this IS why regional newspapers are dying.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||The only "U" you could think||
The only "U" you could think of was "Uteruses"? Fail.
|6 years 14 weeks ago||But why male models?||
But why male models?
|6 years 15 weeks ago||I like how he flew the||
I like how he flew the plane...INTO SPACE!
|6 years 15 weeks ago||8 of the 24 commits from our||
8 of the 24 commits from our 2008 recruiting class are no longer on the team. That was the class that signed less than two months after RichRod was hired, so it seems natural that there would be turnover, but still...1/3 of the class?
I think it's safe to say this has been about as rough a transition as you can have in college football. Two full years later and things are still not stabilized.
|6 years 15 weeks ago||I'm shocked Revis didn't win,||
I'm shocked Revis didn't win, and even more shocked the margin was so wide. Who votes on this award again?
Revis had about as good a season as a cornerback can possibly have. He went up against almost every big name receiver in the league and shut them all down, with no exceptions. I have never seen anything like it. They should be considering him for league MVP. No, I'm not kidding.
Edit: and I love Woodson as much as anyone. Class of '00, was there for every game from '96-'99.
|6 years 16 weeks ago||So...||
Baxter, Forcier, Robinson and Gardiner on the same team in a "run-oriented" spread option system. That'll work.
RichRod should just put them all in the backfield at the same time and run a quintuple option over and over again.
|6 years 16 weeks ago||Michigan claims 11: 1901,||
Michigan claims 11: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997. The team went undefeated in each of those years.
-We were undefeated and #1 in the AP for 1948 and 1997, so those are easy.
-We were undefeated in 1947 and finished #2 in the post-regular season AP poll (behind Notre Dame). However, this note appears on the Michigan website: "Michigan and Notre Dame had traded the top spot in the polls through much of the season. Notre Dame was No. 1 and Michigan No. 2 in the final regular season poll. In an unprecedented post-bowl games poll, the Associated Press named Michigan No. 1 on the strength of the Wolverines' decisive win over Southern California in the Rose Bowl. Notre Dame had been less dominant in its season ending win over the Trojans."
-There was no AP poll until 1936, so everything before that is disputed, though it's pretty obvious we were #1 in 1901 and 1902. In those two years, Michigan went 22-0 and outscored opponents 1194-12 (!).
|6 years 16 weeks ago||1973 is pretty hilarious,||
1973 is pretty hilarious, too. They LOST to undefeated Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl that season, but the final coaches poll came out before the bowl games, so they claim that as a national championship year.
Michigan has some disputed championships, but at least we were undefeated in all of them.
|6 years 16 weeks ago||Am I the only one who thinks||
Am I the only one who thinks of this when I hear Molk's name?
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I think the prevailing wisdom||
I think the prevailing wisdom is that:
1) NFL teams have unlimited practice time and would figure out how to defend it;
Still, I would like to see someone try it.
Edit: I think there's a distinct possibility an NFL team will put a spread option package together for Tebow. If anyone can run it in the NFL, it would be him.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||True||
The only other prominent teams running a spread option are WVU, Florida and Oregon. But still...Steve Slaton, Pat White, Percy Harvin, Tim Tebow. I guess we should all be rooting for these guys to succeed in the NFL.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I'm all for internet snark,||
I'm all for internet snark, but laughing at a blind college student band member because she looks a little funny on TV is too much, even for a cynical New Yorker.
|6 years 17 weeks ago||I think he'll easily get an||
I think he'll easily get an offer from a BCS conference team, though it might be next year. TTech made a very hasty decision. This guy single-handedly brought their program into the national spotlight. I think half of the 122 D-I teams would want him.
Ironic that this is the same school that hired Bobby Knight. What are they thinking? Are they that scared of some bad press from ESPN?
|6 years 17 weeks ago||Liar liar pants on fire.||
Liar liar pants on fire.
|6 years 18 weeks ago||Agreed||
How many games has Mallet started in college? 15? He'll be a "project" in the NFL, and will have to sit on the bench for at least 3 years. Unless he really needs money now, it seems like he's better off waiting a year.
|6 years 18 weeks ago||Was anyone else at the hockey||
Was anyone else at the hockey game the night Woodson won the Heisman? That is one of my fondest Michigan memories. As I remember it, there were a bunch of recruits in one of the press boxes that contained a TV, and the entire student section was staring at them the whole night to find out if Woodson won (this was in a time before cellphones). In the middle of the 2nd period they started going nuts, and a slow wave of celebration engulfed Yost. Then an official announcement was made and the entire arena went nuts for 5-10 minutes straight. I think there was even a "Heisman-Sieve" chant. Wish someone had a video of that.
|6 years 19 weeks ago||I was there||
It was actually a "Championship Celebration" that was held after we won the Rose Bowl, when students returned to campus in January (unless you're thinking of something different). I don't remember a Woodson highlight video, but there was a long season re-cap video that had a lot of Woodson footage. I remember the place going NUTS when they showed the Michigan State interception. They replayed it like 4 times.
I still have my ticket for this somewhere.
|6 years 19 weeks ago||Dan Shanoff Agrees|
|6 years 20 weeks ago||Well,||
Florida-FSU and Auburn-Alabama still work.
The Big Ten HAS TO do this. And, really, the 12th team HAS TO be Notre Dame. Even if it comes down to a boycott or an act of Congress, as ridiculous as that sounds. It just makes too much sense.
All BCS conferences should expand to 12 or 14 teams. The remaining schools and conferences get relegated to the FCS, with a chance to "move up" to the FBS every few years (not unlike soccer in the UK). You cannot put together a playoff in a league with 122 teams. It is impossible. Half of those 122 have absolutely no chance of competing, anyway.
|6 years 20 weeks ago||There's also this:||
"CONs: Isn't WVU a really crap school? Huggins should be a net negative. Football program has strong flash-in-the-pan characteristics."
|6 years 20 weeks ago||I think there is a difference||
I think there is a difference between the 2007 RichRod situation at WVU and the current Kelly situation at Cincy. Rodriguez was born and raised in WV and played for the school. He was a hometown boy, and had just signed a contract extension after a brief dalliance with Alabama. Kelly, on the other hand, has been a bit of a mercenary for his whole career. It was a foregone conclusion that he would eventually leave, be it for ND or another powerhouse.
I also think the media has built up the idea of Kelly as ND's "first choice" for months now, so this hire came with a certain degree of resolution. Once the Les Miles situation blew up, Michigan went into crisis mode, at least in the eyes of the media and casual, non-Michigan fan observers. Every story needs an angle. The Kelly angle is "ND gets it's man". The RichRod angle was "he walked out on his team".
|6 years 20 weeks ago||The "OJ:" tag, on the other hand||
..is chronically underused.
|6 years 20 weeks ago||So...||
We have two in the top 250 and USC has two in the top...3.
USC also has all of the top 6 either committed or considering. I guess according to Rivals, USC should never lose another game.
|6 years 21 weeks ago||Seriously. Who commits to a||
Seriously. Who commits to a team without a coaching staff? Has this ever happened before?
|6 years 22 weeks ago||Please Lou Holtz, Please Lou Holtz...||
It would just be the greatest thing ever. I think I would actually root for Notre Dame if they hired Lou.
|6 years 22 weeks ago||I think there's a chance he||
I think there's a chance he stays if ND brings in an NFL coach like Bilick and Tate decides to stay as well.
If they hire Brian Kelly then both are as good as gone and ND will have to endure a RichRod-like rebuilding. They have no backup QB, correct?