here's one vote for "John Beilein's head in a Futurama jar"
|1 year 10 weeks ago||I'd like to see some major||
I'd like to see some major bowls in Big Ten land- it seems unfair to me that all the other major conferences get the premier bowls.
If you switch allignment for conferences in bowls some bowls that are currently ehh-bowls could become more enticing (kind of how it seems the Pinstripes bowl will become a bigger deal). It gets tiring seeing the top Big Ten teams play PAC 12 teams in CA and SEC and ACC teams in FL....
|1 year 10 weeks ago||Wow that is really cool||
Wow that is really cool
|1 year 10 weeks ago||If there's a chance for money||
If there's a chance for money it will be taken by any school- so it is pretty hard to imagine it being settled...
|1 year 11 weeks ago||This is why I love this site!||
This is why I love this site! Gerat work!
|1 year 11 weeks ago||What an amazing thing to do-||
What an amazing thing to do- puts things into perspective about what is really important and how to truly make a difference.
If anyone is interested in how to donate or is curious to know more about what Cameron Lyle will be doing medically here's the place to look.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||True- its on the front page-||
True- its on the front page- but that post has lots of info on it- and the board discusses topics more.
Plus, I don't mind discussing how all our recruits are top-150 for a second time!
|1 year 12 weeks ago||I agree they are called too||
I agree they are called too quickly.
I also think jump balls should always go to the defense- rewarding a godo defensive posession. I also think it would make the ends of games more exciting. If you need a comeback and you get a jumpball on defense its rewarded- and your team has a better chance of gettign a comeback based on tough defensive play.
|1 year 14 weeks ago||I'm happy if he plays to the||
I'm happy if he plays to the level of any of those players!
How crazy would it be if he is Big Ten freshamn of the year- two in a row from the same Indiana HS and neither playing for Indiana... let's hope he can do it!
|1 year 14 weeks ago||I believe baller should be||
I believe baller should be underlined at minimum 5 times to really emphasize your point..
|1 year 14 weeks ago||Nov 21- neutral site-||
Nov 21- neutral site- Michigan- L 67-62
Feb 2- home- Syracuse- W 65-55
Mar 14- neutral site- Syracuse- L 62-59
Mar 21- neutral site- Wichita St- L 73-55
|1 year 14 weeks ago||I believe UConn's last||
I believe UConn's last championship team was 8-8 in big east play but undefeated in non- conference play- which supports your claim. But they did win the big east tourney as well...
|1 year 15 weeks ago||I just looked up their||
I just looked up their bracket and they beat Kansas in the sweet 16 85-82 then UNC in the final four 66-58 before Kentucky in the title 84-79. Let's hope we don't have to beat three one seeds but it's kinda neat that if we do Kansas will be the sweet sixteen loser in both examples.
|1 year 15 weeks ago||I believe the Arizona||
I believe the Arizona championship team is the only team to do so
|1 year 17 weeks ago||It sounds exactly like||
It sounds exactly like something he would say...
I am looking forward to hopefully playing them in BTT and also next year- with many of their players graduating/going to NBA I think we have a great chance against them next year!
|1 year 17 weeks ago||Curious where you heard that-||
Curious where you heard that- it sounds very believable though.
Also I am not sure why he is so into it being "his program."
The stuff with Meyer happened before he was ever associated with Indiana (and he wasn't involved...) and I get coaches have ego's- but Indiana's program is much bigger than him- what makes him such an ass is that he doesn't seem to get that.
He is burning BigTen bridges pretty fast...
|1 year 17 weeks ago||I love how well Beilein has||
I love how well Beilein has recruited Indiana!
It's also nice having players familiar with eachother- and who get along. When you get a tight-knit group they can overcome challenges and low-points much better.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||72-61 Michigan victory||
72-61 Michigan victory
|1 year 17 weeks ago||He doesn't strike just you||
He doesn't strike just you that way- he was (still is?) in charge of the NCAA's ethics comitte.
Never really heard anything negative about him...
I'm glad our programs have solid and respected coaches!
|1 year 18 weeks ago||You posted about an OSU||
You posted about an OSU article on a Michigan blog- your heart was in the right place. I will upvote you because so many negs without one upvote is sad...
|1 year 18 weeks ago||http://www.infoplease.com/ipa||
NE: CT, ME, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT
MW: IL, IN, IA, KS, MI, MN, MO, NB, ND, OH, SD, WI
SO: AL, AR, DE, D.C., GL, GA, KY, LA, MD, MS, NC, OK, SC, TN, TX, VA, WV
W: AK, AZ, CA, CO, HI, ID, MT, NV, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY
You could argue the split of the regions for their relevance for BCS conference comparisons- but the south is essentailly equally as large as the northeast and midwest combined now. Yes MD is south and will be in the Big Ten now- but when you say a recruit from the south, or from the midwest etc. this chart works quite well.
Basically the South is responsible for more than half the growth of the country in the last two decades- and there are more states in the south than other regions.
Sports preferance also plays a role. In Chicago and NYC basketball is king, in the south its football, and in the northeast football blows...
|1 year 18 weeks ago||http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/b||
If you are curious about BTT seedings (and projecting how far we could go).
Otherwise a title is pretty easy- it's just standing. If we beat Indiana we are co-champs (with Indiana for sure- and most likely up to two other teams- whoever stays at 5 losses).
|1 year 18 weeks ago||So much depends on other||
So much depends on other teams:
How do Duke and Miami play in the ACC tounrament and their last games...
How does Kansas wrap up its season- if they lose early in the conference tournament they could fall...
If Gonzaga doesn't win their tournament a one seed could be opened up...
If Georgetown wins the Big East they could jump teams...
If Michigan wins at Indiana we could earn a 1-seed- if we do well in the BTT we could be favored for one even. If Michigan loses to Indiana I'm not sure even winning the BTT would be enough. If we beat Indiana I think a 2 is locked up- if we lose to Indiana and lose early in the BTT a 3 is likely.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||Yep stupid mistake- it was on||
Yep stupid mistake- it was on the road...
My main point was every team has "choked" to some degree- or can argue they should be better than 5-losses. Our fan base is quick to say- stupid PSU game, or stupid half-court shot, hell we should be the champs- but other teams have similar gripes in my opinion
|1 year 18 weeks ago||What also matters a lot is||
What also matters a lot is who palys which teams only once:
Obviously it is nice to only play top teams once- but what is also key is whether you play top teams at home or on the road if you only play them once. Essentially for just home games you want tough opponents (meaning you played them only once and at home) and for just road you want weak opponents (so you still have a good chance to win even though you get an uneven split with them).
For example, we played Wisconsin only once- but it was on the road- so that is a huge advantage for Wisconsin- had that been changed the whole title race could be different obviously.
Indiana didn't get a chance to avenge its loss to Illinois but didn't have to play inWisconsin- a tough place to play.
Michigan didn't play Iowa and Nebraska on the road- would have been nice to skip on tougher teams. We did not play Minnesota or Wisconsin at home- both solid teams (one hurt us one did not).
Michigan State didn't have to travel to Illinois or Northwestern- like Michigan two weaker teams. MSU also got lucky having road games without homes against Iowa and Penn State- also weaker teams. MSU did have to play all tough teams twice.
OSU hosted Iowa and Minnesota without road games- also two weaker teams. They got luck playing PSU and Purdue only on the road however.
Wisconsin had it pretty good- skipping out on playing us and Purdue on the road- and playing road games against Indiana without being at home (which in liekly would have been a loss anyway) and NW.
So which top teams avoided other top teams?
Indiana skipped WISC on the road
Michigan skipped WISC at home
MSU skipped nobody
OSU skipped nobody
WISC skipped MICH on the road and Indiana at home
WISC had the best schedule all things considered, MSU and OSU had the toughest, with MICH being slightly tougher than Indiana- as far as the schedule against top-5 teasm goes.
However, if we beat Indiana the co-champs will have 5-losses, meaning every team blew some serious chances. Yes half-court at Wisconsin blows, but all the other teams can make very similar arguements. MSU and OSU played all the top teams twice, Indiana blew it against Illinois in not worse of fashion than us against Wisconsin (yes home vs. road makes a big difference though). Well... I guess Wisconsin has very little to complain about... but let's hope MSU beats them at home tonight- I'd rather split the title with MSU than Wisconsin this year.
|1 year 18 weeks ago||That year students had it||
That year students had it made for tickets at Michigan- there were lots of incentives for games- so counting free crap you got games were basically free.
The sad part for me is that Purdue this year is much better than that Michigan team. They are 7-9 with two home games left- granted home games against Michigan and Minnesota are tough- they could get to .500- fans should come out and cheer for that. They made the Sweet 16 in '09 and '10, and the tournament the last two years. They have been a solid program, and have decent tradition- it is sad tickets are apparently so easy to come by for this game...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||All very good points. SOS and||
All very good points.
SOS and other variables would really just make this super crazy to calculate- but would be interesting.
Your reasoning for conf. champs desrerving more credit- at least relative to ncaa champs does seem legitimate.
I get that winning it all requires luck- but every coach to have won a tournament has been an established coach. Yes some young or less-successful coaches have a final four run under their name- but it seems that only elite coaches win championships. Perhaps that is because if a coach does win fans/media immediately elevate them to that status- but that is a completely idfferent issue.
I was not trying to have a diffinitive top-coach list- just putting out a list based on the assumptions I made.
I agree with your point about Wooden- compeltely different era- just thought it'd be an interesting comparison. Any time you cross era comparisons become tricky- and since coaches coach 3-4 decades it can make this challenging.
Maybe if I have time I will try to reevaluate changing some of the variables- most likely with raising the value of conf championships.
Any other changes you think I should make (or others)- and if so include the values you would use.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Thanks! Granted I would say a||
Granted I would say a majority of commetns that get downvoted are not worth the read- you do get a fair amoutn of quality stuff downvoted for no good reason, and of course a few laugher comments that can be funny...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||True- likely not worthy of||
True- likely not worthy of getting upset about. It's frustrating because he made a very good point/arguement- and it would be missed if it not up-voted again to make it visible without clicking.
Silliness and pettiness with downvoting can really take away from a blog though. ITts pretty immature to downvote if you say another school has more tradition/success than Michigan- plus it plays into all the bad stereotypes of Michigan fans...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||How was Rabbit21's comment||
How was Rabbit21's comment flamebait? He used facts and loogic to make a point. It may not be a point you like or approve of- but it wasn't made maliciously, and it was 100% in context of the situation being described...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||That'd be a lot of||
That'd be a lot of points!
People love the coaches- but give too little credit for who hired them.
People love the new facilities- but don't like new prices and advertizing
Now that doesn't mean all changes are equal- some things should never be touched- some to the point of being obvious:
school colors (creating new ones- not maize v. neon- although I see why that bothers people), mascot, helmets, block M...
But some things although important to many will have changes:
advertizing in areas it wasn't before, unifroms- more types and different styles, twitter/media- even on the court etc.
No one is going to please everyone- and balancing tradition, school culture, and success is not easy. But as long as you keep the untoucahbles alone, and dont run from what built Michigan- if you have success that is what the job is. And to say DB did any of the unnacceptable things seems silly to me- and he sure has been very successful!
|1 year 19 weeks ago||It's what you have to say||
It's what you have to say when you join a new staff- think about any new Michigan coach and how they speak about our history (FERGODSAKES!!!). I think everyone said the right thing in this situation.
Yes UM>Oklahoma in most peoples opinion- and darn near 100% on this blog- but it's not totaly crazy. Oklahoma has a very storied program- plus, much of Michigan's history tat makes our program so storied isn't remembered by this generation of students grandparents
It's pretty clear it seems liek the move was a good one for him- and I wish him well at Oklahoma- I think everyone handled the situation well ans did and said all the right things.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Any time $, uniforms, or||
Any time $, uniforms, or tradition comes up he will ultimately be called out in a thread....
I get why some people dislike him- but it gets old... Especially when the sports programs he oversees are all on the upswing and financially incredibly well off (and for many cases he deserves tons of credit for the upswings due to hires and facility changes)...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Adidas logic: Let's make new||
Let's make new uniforms for fans to buy. If fans don't like them they aren't any less to buy a uniform entirely- so they still will buy our old uniforms. If fans like them they may also buy a whole new uniform
I doubt Adidas cares too much about players performance or comfort in the jerseys- unless it becomes a big pushback that would push schools away from Adidas. Even if they are universaly panned and players say they suck- it won't hurt Adidas financially unless school drop them.
Uniforms are going to keep changing because it makes money- and no one turns down money. KU-MIZZOU split for money, A&M and Texas, MD and Duke, etc.... If there's money in it- it will happen- no matter the tradition, fan reaction, or anything else.
I don't like the uniforms fwiw- but I also don't feel inclined to vomit or feel any repulsion to them. I'd like our retros all the time..
|1 year 19 weeks ago||72-68 Michigan||
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Then we do agree- I say||
Then we do agree- I say there is a 75% chance we go at least 3-1 (25% we go 4-0, 50% we go 3-1).
The games being at home are huge- and we have done very well at home over the last two years- but MSU destroyed us, and Indiana is a legit #1 team- both games will be hard.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||I can see the logic in a 69%||
I can see the logic in a 69% chance of winning- our home record the last two years is top-notch. I gave the same odds of beating MSU and Indiana- and we played Indiana reasonably close and got clobbered by MSU- so by saying I think they have equal chances of winning both games I am essentially saying I expect much better against MSU than last time- but after that game it is hard for me to be too confident.
Essentially MSU and Indiana are 50-50 to me. I say 25% chance we win both, 50% we split, 25% we lose both.
I thought about giving Pomweray odds instead of my own guesses- maybe that would be a good add for next time (or next year if I do it then too).
|1 year 19 weeks ago||I counted all wins at levels||
I counted all wins at levels lower than D-1 (non-high school) but did not give nay points for making DII tournaments, or DII conference championships- so essentially coaches only get the points for non-DI wins but nothing else.
There are a few coaches this impacts- and for Beilein I gave his stats only counting DI to do a DI comparison only for those who are interested.
Perhaps I should have counted those numbers differently- I had to make a lot of assumptions- but any time you do a ranking system you have to...
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Definitely true about how it||
Definitely true about how it could change a lot.
How owuld you change it? How do you value an NCAA tournament appearance compared to a win?
When people talk about coaches it seems to center on these things: total wins, ncaa's, final fours, and championships.
Total wins just skews towards experience- avg wins makes most seem pretty similar.
NCAA's are what every teams goal is- so making a tournament seems worthy of a lot of value when disucssing how good a coach is- decreasing it from 20 to me seems like it will devalue that- but I'd love to hear others thoughts on a good number choice.
Final Fours and championships are very tied to being an elite coach- because that is how we judge coaches (and players). Who is the best NBA coach? My guess is people think Phil Jackson and Red Aurbach- any coincidence they have so many titles? That is why I seperated it to pts/yr average as well- so coaches that may not win titles but have good success can be valued. Mark Few for example gets a very high ranking despite no elite eights.
I guess I am saying I totally agree with what you are saying- but I'd like to hear specific reasons why I should change the point system. Yes halving the ncaa or other tournament points may change data (skew it more towards most wins, or average wins compated to tournament success)- but WHY should I do that? I did somewhat arbirtrarily pick 20 for NCAA because it seemed to me like a twenty win season and an NCAA invite are pretty equal- why would I halve or quarter that- what logic is there that 10 or 5 makes mroe sense (it may exist- I'd love to hear your arguement)?
|1 year 20 weeks ago||Not only is it very unlikely||
Not only is it very unlikely both lose three- Wisconsin has a decent chance of wining out (especially in that scenario with them beating MSU so that State has three losses). Wisconsin is in the same position we are with an easier schedule. Essentially no way we could be sole champion of the conference.
|1 year 20 weeks ago||I agree- better to have a||
I agree- better to have a title no matter who else is sharing it with you. My bigger point was it'd be very frustrating to see Wisconsion sharing a title. I don't mind any other team having the title (or a share of it) but Wisconsin having a share of it rubs me the wrong way this year. Let's hope they slip up some other way in their easy remaining schedule and take care of MSU!
|1 year 20 weeks ago||All games count the same. If||
All games count the same. If we lost to Wisconsin and trailed the whole game and got outplayed it would not be the one game that stuck out. Last year it was the Purdue at home game that cost us the championship- when any of the other four loses could have meant a championship.
If we had beat Wisconsin obviously we'd be in better shape- plus Wisconsin would be out of it (like OSU)- making it a three team race which would have been very helpful.
It is so hard to beat top teams on the road. MSU and Indiana have to do that now. If they can't beat the top teams on the road it means we beat both and could share a title- if they can beat top teams on the road it means we lost one or both of those games and both teams will finish with great records- and deserve a title over us.
Ultimately for the tournament that will matter less since each game is neutral and we won't have to win on the road. With a young team with six freshman who play that will be a good thing. I think too many fans expect the top-team to win college games when the reality is road games are very, very hard to win. The OSU and Wisconsin game are frustrating due to how we lost- but the reality is both are top-20 teams who protect their courts well- neither of them are a "bad loss" it's just frustrating how we lost. This Michigan team couldn't prove it could win against top teams on the road- teams like that didn't "lose" a championship, they just didn't "earn" one- and that's the spot Michigan is in now.
|1 year 20 weeks ago||Sorry about that mistake...||
Sorry about that mistake... nice find! Corrected!
|1 year 21 weeks ago||The team has been a top-5||
The team has been a top-5 team all year- not sure how fans are kool-aid drinkers for thinking we are a good team with a chance?
The Clowney hit also came after the worst officiating call ever where we should have not even had the ball. They played a better game than we did- that hit was obviously important- but get over it- we lost to a team that played better than us. We had more losses than you'd hope in a year- but we lost to 3 top 5 teams and lost to Nebraska after our QB got hurt- that's not too bad.
Only idiots or 5 year olds thin ktheir team should win every year- and freak out when they dont. Sports don't work like that.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||I'm not sure you understand||
I'm not sure you understand how college sports work...
We are never going to beat teams every year- even bad ones.
Bowl games are all played in locations favorable to opponents for the Big Ten- and for the last decade against conferences far superior to ours.
Lewan is one of the best players to wear a Michigan uniform- and actually played quite well against Clowney who is the most talented player in college.
UM basketball set records this year for winning games- yes our losses have been painful and frustrating- but that is a good thing. Yesterday hurt so bad because people cared and have high hopes- since the Fab Five people have been so numb to a terrible Michigan team (or at least hopelessly mediocre) that such pain wasn't possible.
We are not an elite team this year- we learned that in EL- and the message was very clear. It does not mean we are not a very very good team however. This year there are not clearly dominant teams. Duke lost by 20-something to Miami- who lost to Florida Gulf Coast. Indiana lost to Illinois who most likely won't be .500 in conference- and Butler. Kansas lost to TCU- which is the BigXII's PSU. We have a chance this year still- for the conference and the national title. The odds of that went down after the destruction by MSU- but they are not gone. We got handed a dose of reality- and it sucked- but don't freak out about everything. Last year Michigan basketball split a big-ten title- and that was all it took for that year to be something special. Now the program is big-time, so any set-back will hurt- but I'm glad we finally are in the place where it matters like it does now.
It's easy to say we didn't "man-up" but this team has accomplished a lot. Freshman got half our minutes yesterday. Burke is a sophomore. We have no seniors who play. We played at a pumped up Breslin to a great MSU team. We just played two OT games and had away game at MSU to end the toughest 4-game stretch in recent memory. If we lost by 10 it'd just be frustrating- losing by 20-something is more than frustrating- but no matter how you spin it- it is not doomsday.
That was way too long a response to a crazy post... maybe mine is crazy too...
|1 year 21 weeks ago||I love Novak! Part of me is||
I love Novak! Part of me is sad we won't really have guys like him in the near future- since part of what makes him great was being unherladed (and part is pleased because it means lots of talent). It still amazes me that we split the championship last year. The talent this year compared to last is not particularly close- yet last years team was so special- not sure we will ever have another guy quite look Novak again... Glad he will be in attendance though- and it's cool to see the THJR shoutout!
|1 year 21 weeks ago||How have only 4 Iowans and 4||
How have only 4 Iowans and 4 Minnesotans (is that right?) played here. You'd think an in-conference state would get more...
|1 year 21 weeks ago||To me you foul if you have||
To me you foul if you have fouls to give and it gives you an advantage- I think you "earned" the right to foul. If you foul up by three so the other team gets free-throws instead of a shot attempt I dislike it. To me having so few fould gets the reward of denying a possession if need be whereas fouling to get free-throws instead of a three seems cheap...
Overall I think it is a situation people get worked up on a little that is unlikely to make a huge difference in many cases- but after losing such a game fans become enraged and say the opposite clearly should have been done- had Wisconsin missed the half court I don't think too many Michigan fans would be feeling the same way about this situation as they do now.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Loved it! If you have more||
If you have more content I for one would love to see it!!!
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Name the reviewer: "This||
Name the reviewer:
"This movie is like Casablanca only more classic, and more award-worthy"
"This movie gets as many stars as a Purdue recruit- I call a meeting to discuss how to make movies like the SEC"
|1 year 21 weeks ago||All of what you said is true||
All of what you said is true and I don't blame you for your pessismism but its about the schedule. Top teams win at home- if we lost big games at home then I undetrstand the concern and claim we may not be a top conference team. We just happened to play the top teasm on the road first- when we play them at home things should be better. If we can only win at home and cnat take any road games them I understand not being an elite team- but until we play the top teams at home it will be hard to judge just how well we stack up against the Big Ten top teams. If we had the opposite and played all those teams at home and run first the same thing would have applied in reverse.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Nice write-up! They have very||
They have very balanced scoring- so it's hard to defend them. At home this game will be very hard to win- if we do though our chances of a conference championship shoot up. I don't expect a win however. Even with a loss we can be alright if we take care of business at home against Indiana and MSU later in the year. Let's hope I'm wrong and we take this game though! It'd be nice if we don't get down early for the big road game!
|1 year 21 weeks ago||I think that seems about||
I think that seems about right.
Have we ever dropped out of the top-5 this year? I don't thin kwe have which is pretty neat!
What I think is weird about rankings is the need to drop a team with losses and rise with wins regardless of context. Duke barely beat a terrible BC team on the road and we lose to a very good Wisconsin team on the raod due to a buzzer beater- yet they jump us... At least Indiana didn't drop- although that has more to do with so many other top teams losing.
Beefs- Miami is undefeated in the ACC and killed Duke who has two conference losses- Miami also beat MSU- they shoudl be ahead of Duke... Gonzaga- a little too high in my opinion- but ohh well- they will bow out of NCAA tournamanet early as usual- I nbever realyl worry about their rankings- just think it's silly they are so high. Voters seriously think they are better than MSU?
|1 year 21 weeks ago||I wouldn't mind Wisconsin at||
I wouldn't mind Wisconsin at a neutral site- OSU is the team I most want to avoid to be honest. Even if we win agaisnt them they wear us down more than any other team and would make the next game harder than any other opponent would in that first game. No matter what tournament games will be very hard- I'm not too concerned about hwat will happen with the seeding at this point- I'm mostly focused on winning the regular season. I'd rather win the regular season and have a somewhat dissapointing big ten tournament than win the touranament but be a game plus out of the regular season championship.
Unless we fall out of the top 4 and have to play a first day game I will be ok no matter what.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||That's fair. I am not as||
That's fair. I am not as down on UM as many people seem to be. We lost three road games by a combined 14 points. OSU matches up well against us and played an amazing game at home to beat us- after we came out flat as can be. Indiana won by 8 at home- you don't often beat top 5 teams at home, and WISC beat us at home- like they have 4 of the other last 5 times top-5 teams played there- and they needed a crazy half court shot to win- and we missed many layups.
@MSU will be a great test- if we win we are very legit- if we lose though it won't mean much. It'd be grat if we beat the top BigTen teams on the road- and would mean we are elite- but losing them does not mean we aren't the top team in-conference or a great team. The games we lost were all a top game by our opponents and all were close- and all were on the road. Last year we only lost to Purdue at home and we are much improved this year. Can we lose a home game- yes, but we should be favored in both. Look at my odds for each win percentage- I do give a decent chacne of losing one of those games anyway.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Subjective GOLBOGM||
Subjective GOLBOGM agrees
Objective GOLBOGM thinks MSU is playing great basketball right now.
Looking purely at losses Michigan has a better resume in my opinion:
Michigan big wins: Pitt neutral by 5, K State neutral by 14, NCST by 7 (becoming less impressive), @ Minnesota b 8 (becoming less impressive), OSU by 2 in OT
Michigan losses- @Indiana by 8, @Wisconsin by 3 in OT, and @OSU by 3
Michigan State big wins: KU neutral by 3 (before they lost to TCU and stopped being good), OSU by 3, @Wisconsin by 2, Minnesota by 11 (becoming less impressive)
Michigan State losses- UConn in Germany by 4, @Miami (YTM) by 8, @Minnesota by 13, and @Indiana by 5.
Those are very very similar in my opinion. Michigan on paper in many ways has an edge- but this game is at MSU- they have to be the objective pick. We should win at home later though- a split seems most likely.
I say we have a 40% chance to win @MSU, and they only have a 30% chance to win @MICH since we are a little bit better- but they should win at home.
I hope we win though! If we do our path becomes much much better!!
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Technically yes- but that||
Technically yes- but that would be no fun to do....
Indiana would have the tiebreaker over MSU, and Wisconsin over UM, and Minnesota over Purdue- all in two team ties. Illinois, Iowa, and NW are all 4-7 now- and against eachother Iowa is 2-0 (both against NW), NW is 1-2 (beat ILL), and ILL is 0-1 so the it'd be Iowa>NW>ILL.
Seeding id season ended today"
1- IND, 2- MSU, 3- WISC, 4- MICH, 5- OSU, 6- MINN, 7- PURD, 8- IOWA, 9-NW, 10- ILL, 11- NEB, and 12- PSU
As it is currently set up MICH is not in a great place. WOuld play OSU/PSU winner, followed by winenr of IND vs. Iowa/NW.
Wisconsin in the 3 would get winner of Minn/Neb and then winner of MSU vs. Purd/Ill.
Indiana has it easy with Iowa or NW. Wisc second easiest with Minn/Neb. Then MSU with Purd or Illinois, and us hardest with PSU or OSU. Of course the 4 should have the hardest route- but I would so much rather have Minn/Neb than OSU (unless PSU went nuts).
Obviously this is ver yearly and will change- but it will be very important to keep a look out for seeding in the Big Ten tournament.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||It's too bad we struggled so||
It's too bad we struggled so much in men's and women's hoops for such a logn period of time. Men's basketball is beack to the big-time and the women seem to be on the fast-track to the same place.
Brandon was done a terrific job getting our big time programs headed in the right direction. Can't remember (maybe was not alive for...) the last time men's football and basketball and women's basketball all seemed to be headed by the perfect person on the path to, or already at, a national level.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||How are they "not good?"||
How are they "not good?" Teams don't win 70% of conference games in any major conference- particularly this years top conference without being "good."
They have a relatively easy schedule left compared to the teams above them as well- they very easily could continue their string of top-4 conference finishes.
Yes they didn't look great against Iowa- but Iowa is a solid team- with a little luck instead of all bad luck they'd be ahead of Minnesota. Illinois is also 3-7 like Iowa is and they have had breaks- don't sleep on Iowa- and talk about Wisconsin not being good is silly,
Wisconsin's style of play is not glamerous- but their results are consistent and definitaly good. Should we win- yes- but it has nothing to do with them not being good. If they slow down the pace it shouldn't impact us too much. We are built aroudn efficieny- scoring more points per possession than our opponent- the number of possessions does not seem to impact that too much with this years team- we can run, we can go slow, we can do both...
The two things you relied on for your arguement are also weak. We aren;'t great at free throws either... free throw percentage and overall success I do not believe are too highly correlated- and offensive efficieny is important- but moswtly so in relation to your defensive efficiency. Wisconsin won't blow many teams out- and won't get blown out often- their games due to their style are closer- but they manage to be successful or at least show well in all games. I think people assume ugly play equals bad play- it does not- just as beautiful play does not mean great play necessarily.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Glad you approve of my blogs-||
Glad you approve of my diaries- made me more pleased than it should have to get the shout-out lol...
After Saturday's games I hope to do an upcoming schedule update!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||This is so much harder than||
This is so much harder than it is with basketball.
1- there are less games- so the magnitude of each game is higher
2- schedules are so uneven- out-of conference is 4 games and many teasm play cream-puffs
3- In basketball many teams play home and away- if a team loses to a team on the road and that's taken into account it can make selections tricky- you can easily make the arguement a team is better than a team with a better record if you take location into play- it will get ugly potentially
4- politics- if each conference is represented I imagien they will vote for their champ every year unless it is too absurd (speaking BCS big-boys not MAC etc)- and that could lead to some big disputes
5- smaller than basketball- arguements over who is the 34th at large or whatever it is compared to a semi-final worthy team are not comparable
It will be a tough thing to do- and there will be plenty of complaints- and I don't envy those selected- I am pleased with overall changes however- the more teams with a chance to win the better imo
|1 year 22 weeks ago||As always I love the work! I||
As always I love the work!
I agree with all of your points. It's pretty crazy how the BigTen is shaping up as the BigTwo again... The Ole Miss situation seems less crazy looking at your graphs. Having the number 1 recruit I think helped bring other top talent (I know he only signed the last day but most people felt he was Ole Miss well before)- and that was in part luck from his brother. I think they were able to get lucky and do hard work on a couple of top-top guys and then the rest of the class was like it normally was. If they continually get top guys like this year then it will be interesting to see whether he is a crazy recruiter or if funny business is at play. For now I don't really care anyway- they will not likely be a top SEC program next year anyway- so not sure how it impacts us much...
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I imagine the recuriting will||
I imagine the recuriting will indeed be more selevtive this year because of the smaller class size (although through attrition it will likely be more than 16). So we should focus on really high quality guys. I expect the class to resemble the top 16-20 of this incoming class- so essentialyl all 4-start type guys. If we could pull in 20 four-star plus type players this cycle we should for the next one- hopefully a little more elite/5-start talent- but that is a hard task for any proram.
I love how we have another QB taking the lead with recruiting. QB are leaders on the field- nice to see that starting for the second year in a row on the trail!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||It depends on how you read||
It depends on how you read the questions.
Will the quality of games/teams be better or will the event be better.
Nothing tops March Madness- so the event will be better- no matter the participants in my opinion.
Now... the games and teams very well may be better. We have seen a lot of low seeds get to the final four- which is exciting but means the final four may have non-elite teams in it potentially. Indiana and Michigan are 1 or 2 seeds. MSU and OSU are 2-6 seeds- likely 3 or 4 seeds. Wisconsin is a 3-8 seed most likely a 5-6 seed, and Minnesota is a 5-9 seed most likely a 6 seed or so (estimates for end of the year- not current).
Wisconsin and Minnesota would not be terribly exciting- but if it is the current top 4 all in the final 4 for the big ten that is nuts. They could all make the final four! So I would say there is a small but decent chance the quality of games and teams may be better for the final 4 in the big ten- but its almost blasphemous to say anything could top the final four or march madness as far as an experience.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Maybe it's just because I||
Maybe it's just because I know we ultimately lost the game now- but I wish he made the dunk. It would have just been amazing to have seen it. Not often does a missed dunk still be the most outstanding play. Oladipo is probably the most exciting BigTen player (outside of Michigan) for me to watch.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I think it is the next three||
I think it is the next three games for us that decide it. If we beat OSU at home, and then go on the road and win at State and Wisconsin we put a game between the next three teams behind us. Then until Indiana all games are pretty favorable. If we win the next three the season comes down to the Indiana game- or maybe even clinched before with how tough Indiana's schedule is. If we lose 1 of the three it will be very close all the way and most likely come down to the Indiana game still- if we lose two or three of these then we are in serious trouble for getting a conference championship. I think we have a very good chance of winning all three- the hardest will be in EL in my opionion... and god will it be great if we win there to make it three in a row!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Very impressive looking||
Very impressive looking facility!
Not sure if there is adequate shelving for deer antler spray however...
|1 year 22 weeks ago||If we lose our chances of||
If we lose our chances of winning the conference drop very fast- if we win we stay in very good shape.
I think everything worked out perfectly for an OSU win last game away- I don't see that happening again. I expect a win by about 6-10 points- but the game never to be too much in doubt for the last ten minutes.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||It's almost like Chip Kelly||
It's almost like Chip Kelly didn't care anymore about his recruits...
To me that is one of the most frustrating thing about college sports- coaches that make poor decisions (or personal gain decisions) screw over the school and not themeselves. Coaches that leave can leave for NFL leave a team in scrambles, coaches that leaves before issues surface/get punished (cough ***Calipari*** cough) have nothing happen to them and the schools they leave suffer through years of punishment/turmoil.
I know it will never happen because of money- but I'd love it if there were restrictions on when you can start/leave jobs- I guess you can never stop jumps to the NFL/NBA- but jumping to another NCAA school should not happen at times where it can disrupt a program so much. Coaches have it so easy- and they can screw over players which I think is unfair. At least that does not appear to be an issue at UM- so I suppose we can only gain from this situation, but overall I think it is bad for college sports
|1 year 22 weeks ago||The RB who might flip is||
The RB who might flip is Ezekiel Elliot- Missouri's top high school recruit.
His parents are both Mizzour grads- this article has a good write up: http://www.rockmnation.com/2013/1/24/3909670/ezekiel-elliott-to-visit-mizzou-this-weekend and this one also does http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/359342/6/Ezekiel-Elliott-has-a-big-decision-to-make, plus that one has this gem of a quote, "Elliot made his official visit to Mizzou this past weekend and accroding to his father, it couldn't have went better. The highlight for Elliot was the M-I-Z, E-Z-E chant at the basketball game." One- the chant is very cool for a highschool kid to hear; two, seriously, couldn't have went any better? It references a quote from the father but doesn't give the quote- so the poor grammar their is pretty weird...
One of my friend's coaches at a school who played John Burrough's- the private school outside of St. Louis where he plays- and I have seen him play also (this year and last)- he is a pretty impressive back. Plus their coach is Gus Frerotte, who, according to the coach I know, is a pretty cool guy also (cool story bro I know...)
It'd be nice if all the last minute recruting Meyer has done turns some guys away and doesn't catch anyone.. Let's hope Elliot goest to Mizzou!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I'm glad you enjoyed the||
I'm glad you enjoyed the diaries and I hope your hunch about Wisconsin is right!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I was surprised as well.||
I was surprised as well. Michigan has 9 Ohio players and 8 Michigan players which is also crazy. Plus Ohio State has no Michiganders and 10 Ohioans- only 1 more than us. For reference ND has 1 Michigan commit and 2 Ohio commits and MSU has the three MI u referenced and 5 Ohio kids. Yes Meyer is taking top talent across the country in a way Tressel maybe didn't- but a lot of Ohio talent is ending up on rival teams.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Yes indeed. That was a silly||
Yes indeed. That was a silly mistake... I think the schedule is our friend comparatively speaking. If we beat OSU I will feel really good about our chances. If we lose not only will our chances of a title go way down it will just horribly suck... Thanks for spotting the error- I fixed it in the chart and the Michigan write-up!
|1 year 22 weeks ago||We should win when Indiana||
We should win when Indiana comes to AA- this race will go down to the very end. WE need to hold serve at all home games- I expect Indiana (and MSU, OSU, Wisconsin) to do the same- meaning it will come down to who wins the most at tough road games.
Losing by 8 at Indiana is nothing to be embarassed about. We did a lot of things poorly too- so to have had a shot especially after the bad start does not mean a whole lot to me. Not sure much seperates us from Indiana this year- probably the two top teams in the nation
|1 year 22 weeks ago||The more CB's you have the||
The more CB's you have the easier that moves becomes- the staff seems to really want to have a lot of depth at CB. Not sure you can say another CB means a likely move to WR for Lewis- but I would think whatvere that chances of a move are they got a lot higher if this news is true (but a lot higher could still very easily mean very unlikely still)
|1 year 22 weeks ago||I could see a slide too-||
I could see a slide too- although I don't think it'd be because of minutes. He is quite possibly the top athlete on the team and can handle minutes. I was surprsied to see he played the whole Indiana game- and I think you are right there are not mnay alternatives at PF- unless you play two bigs. I would like to see two of Horford/McGary/Morgan at times to spell GR3 at times but it doesn't seem like that will happen too often.
Remember he is just a freshman. Playing at Indiana in a #1 v. #3 game when you are from Indiana starting is pretty intense- and we have not played too many away games yet. As the year goes on (and hopefully in future seasons with him in a Michigan uniform) those games won't be as challenging for him and the other freshman.
I think one of the most amazing things this year is how young the team is but how they play like upperclassmen. Burke is a sophomore- but plays like he is a 5th year senior who has been around forever. As the year goes on we have a lot of room for growth and improvement- especially against top teams on the road. How often can you say a top-3 team has room to grow... Young talent is exciting and energizing- but at times there will be lulls- I think that is what GR3 had against Indiana- I doubt (maybe hope is a better word) its a sign he is slowing down
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Great minds... (does that||
Great minds... (does that still work if one's a computer?)
|1 year 23 weeks ago||It will be interesting to see||
It will be interesting to see who matches up against who- if Oladipo guards Burke to try to stop him THJ may be a huge factor- and overall our guards should match up well...
I also agree we are a more well rounded team (better team) I don't think we are better by enough of a margin to give us the advantage in Indiana. I think we can win but I put our odds at 1/3- hope I'm wrong. IF we win, particularly if it's not too close I think we break away from Kansas and become a very clear number 1 and could imagine us winning out if we can win at Indiana with a solid win.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||http://yubanet.com/enviro/Rar||
An article also out today discussing that there are only 300 left in the lower 48 and that they will be listed as a threatened species....
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Yes if Indiana gets to the||
Yes if Indiana gets to the line mroe than we do they should win- because that means more chances for free points- and they score at similar rates to us- but even if we dont have too many turnovers and play a great game keeping them off the line they can definitely win.
The game is at Indiana- and at best we are a slightly better team than Indiana is (be nagry about that if you want)... we should not be a favorite to win- even if we play a good game. We need an excellent game to win- Indiana at home is a hell of a team. If we win it puts us in the drivers seat for the conference and likely a 1 seed- but if we lose it does not mean too much. Losing to the number 3 team, and preseason number 1 on the road is not too worrisome- but it will certainyl take more than just playing like we do and not trunging the ball over imo.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||This is quite||
This is quite interesting...
I suppose it is a good idea to do whatever it takes to ensure following policies and avoiding embarassment though....
|1 year 23 weeks ago||He does look very good in the||
He does look very good in the videos- but WR is so hard for me to judge on high school highlights- so many schools have poor DB's that it is so hard to tell what is serious talent and what is just being better than weak talent on D for WR...
Interesting to see one of our lower rated guys get such big-time looks especially after being a commit... Some coaches have a great eye for high end talent who are not highly ranked recruiting-wise. I know people are quick to say Hoke can't get elite WR talent- but give it some time for the first few recruiting classes to get some experience to see if he does have an eye for these types of guys- I think its way too early to be upset about WR recruting. Plus, with his recruitng skills its saying al ot that WR elite talent is one of the main problems...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Thank you for the laugh! I'd||
Thank you for the laugh!
I'd love this move. They are a true national power- and to have an independent team think of joinging a 5 team big 10 is a very good sign abut the future and potenetial of big ten lax.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Sorry to be that guy but its||
Sorry to be that guy but its Jake Voskuhl... that 1999 UConn team was pretty amazing to watch- they only lost two games both with players sitting out- but still came in as huge underdogs to a Duke team that lost on the last play if I recall correctly to Cincinnati in a nuetral site game. Not often a two-loss team with an all-american is a considerable underdog...
I don't really think we mirror any of these teams that won either. Most #1 teams at the end of January are vdery good- and like many have said if we don't make the sweet 16 it will be incredibly disapointing. We should be a #1 seed and come in as one of the top hand few of teams expected to win- but like Brian keeps saying being the favorite still means you are more likely to lose than win it...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||I;ve heard 60% of the time it||
I;ve heard 60% of the time it works every time
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Team Avg||
Not too bad- basically a 2/3 chance we lose 2 or less games the rest of the way...
Althought hte projection system may need some tweaks it's nice being good. A 1/8 chance of losing 4 games or more the rest of the way is also pretty crazy thinking about where this team has come from to become a top team this year
Funniest stat on the projections- odds of UM going 6-12 (losing out) 1 out of 2.28 billion....
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Nice work! I've been pretty||
I've been pretty blown away with staff and fellow bloggers work with data about recruting this cycle!!!
|1 year 23 weeks ago||What are some other high||
What are some other high profile MGoBlog mentions?
This blog must make some appearances on ESPN...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||MSU's insistence on us being||
MSU's insistence on us being their rival makes it so that they are. It's why 'lil bro works so well- we are their biggest rival and they aren't ours (very little brotherish). It's almost sad- at least now that we won't play ND every year they maybe will jump them to be our number two rival making it less pathetic for MSU...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Coach of the Year usually||
Coach of the Year usually boils down to which coaches team "overachieved" the most- with the implication being the coaches influence is what helped that team overcome their preseason expectations.
Because UM was so highly ranked going in it makes it harder to get credit for such an improvement- even if his coaching job is top-notch.
If there were an award for coach of the last two years or best coach over the last three years- instead of coach of this one year then its hard to think of anyone better- if you had told fans two years ago today or three years ago today we would be here you'd be laughed at (btw I loved Brian's whiplash entry)- but since it is just this year and we were so highly thought of it'll be hard for him to win.
Plus with Burke as a POTY candidate he gets a lot of credit- making it harder for a coach to get an award that depends on voters giving the coach credit for a teams success.
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Can any recruiting wonk say||
Can any recruiting wonk say what the "needs" are for next year.
How many spots are we lookign at, and ideally what positions will make up those spots?
Obviously a lot can change before that point- but a guess as to what the needs are for the next class as it stands now...
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Illinois is falling apart and||
Illinois is falling apart and Georgetown and Villanova are not so the circumstances aren't the same- but it is very hard to win on the road in conference- that's why conference championships are determined by who wins big road conference games more than anythings else. To be honest right now Illinois seems like a must-win road game with them falling apart more than a road win that puts you in a competitive advantage for the conference championship like Indiana, MSU, Ohio, or Minnesota.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Crazy to think if we had not||
Crazy to think if we had not underperformed in the tourney last year he may be back. I guess I'll take the disappointment of the tourney last year for the opportunity it created for this year!
|1 year 24 weeks ago||A wins a win- but that would||
A wins a win- but that would be a very dissapointing result. We just beat a top-10 team on the road by a decent margin, and have been very solid at home. Plus, Purdue is not very strong. If we do one of our second half early runs this should not even be a game pretty early in the second half- maybe even sooner.
I say that there is less than 25% chance the game is within 10- and maybe a 2% chance we lose.
UM 78- Purdue 59
|1 year 24 weeks ago||TOP||
SEC obviously well represented. Interesing how top-heavy PAC12 is and how BIG12 is 5 teams squarely in the middle of the top 25 but no very highly ranked team. ACC weaker than they usually are- and Big East is well the Big East (and Louisville is leaving...). Big Ten seems about right- nice to see NW love in this poll!
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Agreed! That was my||
Agreed! That was my rationale too- although we also play ND two more times- although I don't imagine he'd be too huge a factor as an undercalssman at that point. I hate USC too- but unless its OSU anyone beats ND for me- so I always like to see them lose out on a top recruit.
Although, watching USC recruits flee is quite entertaining- although they still have an absurd class...
|1 year 24 weeks ago||I'd rather USC than ND- but||
I'd rather USC than ND- but if we get Green I'm not sure it matters too much in the scheme of UM recruiting.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||I agree- I am also a||
I agree- I am also a proponent of the bench spark-plug notion.
They average the same minutes anyway- it matters very little who starts other than for the recognition- they play the same amount- as they should production-wise
|1 year 25 weeks ago||6 turnovers is not too great-||
6 turnovers is not too great- but the two killer lob dunks make it ok in my book!
I had noticed the halftime adjustments too. At the end of the first half I was automatically assuming we would expand that lead in the second since it seems like we always do! Seperating a small halftime lead into a decent sized lead to start the second halff can very quickly demoralize the opponent- we have put together some pretty impressive second halfs! Against teams like Minnesota and Indiana you know their coutner-run wil lcome- particularly on the road- but it means so much to our success that we can go on those killer runs- and that after OSU know we can survive such runs by others- even on the road!
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I appreciate the history||
I appreciate the history lesson!
Remember after Morris left and we were all freaking out about who would play PG and what it would mean to our programs ascent... that was silly...
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I think Tubby may be showing||
I think Tubby may be showing this clip to the players- and he might be a little mad....
But on a more serious note I am very glad we don't have to rebound against these guys again- 48% offensive rebound rate- that's crazy- this is one silly example of bad rebounding from perhaps the top rebounding team in the country- it is fun to watch though!
|1 year 25 weeks ago||"It does fully line up,"||
"It does fully line up," Swarbrick said of Te'o's story about the hoax.
People who don't believe Te'o? Swarbrick has something to say to them.
"Then you don't know Manti, is my answer," he said.
Damn I don't know Te'o so I guess I am just wrong... although....
"The thing I'm most sad about is ..." Swarbrick paused, sipped from a cup of tea, composed himself and forged ahead. "The single most trusting human being I've ever met will never be able to trust again in his life."
More than Te'o not being able to trust I would say the most logical conclusion is Te'o can never be trusted again
|1 year 25 weeks ago||@ PSU being 24 of 31 is||
@ PSU being 24 of 31 is sad... how are they so bad? Seriously WMU at home is considered harder than PSU away...
|1 year 25 weeks ago||If he were 15 years younger||
If he were 15 years younger maybe. Not sure a 59 year old coach is going to get too many looks. Plenty of younger NCAA guys may have a future in the NBA- but no need to worry about him making the leap.
Nor for that matter should we even worry about him taking another NCAA job- it looks like we have our coach until he retires
|1 year 25 weeks ago||WIth the NFL emphasizing TE's||
WIth the NFL emphasizing TE's of late- I wouldn't be surprised to see that emphasis shift more in NCAA soon too. That would mean in the future TE will get mroe recruiting love.
I agree with your analysis though- a good offer sheet is just as telling or more than star rankings- and he has it! I'd love to get him in this class
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I agree we obviously need||
I agree we obviously need high quality WR recruits- not sure that they NEED to be stretch the field guys.
Hoke and co. seem to be going after tall WR to be TD targets, and going two-TE and MANBALL suggests our future offense will be a possession offense- with the ability to put togehter consistent long drives and wear down defenses.
Sure stretch the field guys would be great- but that type of offense is very prone to high turnover offenses- I am prefectly content with a lot of TE action and possession routes with a MANBALL running game.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||The classic who cares post...||
The classic who cares post... (obviously you cared enough to post)...
Considering there are hundreds of posts/comments a week saying we need PLAYMAKERS!!!!!!!! comments I would say a lot of people care.
As a fan base I also think UM has a tough time when we "lose" players who were thought to be UM leans.
I agree with your last point though- once UM was not longer a candidate I moved on pretty quick.
Good luck at Ole Miss Treadwell
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Yes, I meant this is where||
Yes, I meant this is where using PER for declaring top players gets ridiculous...
I understand it's a measure of efficiency and that's great. Players like McGary on Michigan fit the theme of lower minutes but lots of efficiency when in- but this is where eye-test means a lot. Yes players generally scale up well with effficiency- so with more minutes he likely will produce well- but you have to trust the coaches- if he were such a beast and so efficient he would either start or get more minutes. Since he doesn't we must assume that either the coaches are making a very poor decision and can't evaluate talent- or that he is not yet able ot sustain those numbers with more minutes.
Eitehr way he is a top young talent Detroit fans should be excited about- but lets slow way down on the talk about greatness- as it stands his PER suggests to me he is a player to keep an eye on for making ab ig leap soon in his future- or he has the ability to be a star- but not sure we have seen anything yet that suggests he is even remotely close to a star at this moment.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||19,225 is a lot bigger than||
19,225 is a lot bigger than 13,390 a kid... While the athelte discrepancy is interesting whats more important for a college is the education- and those numbers are pretty telling. I'm more proud of what UM and Michigan mean academically than athletically- and would not trade our academics for athletic success.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||This is where PER get's a||
This is where PER get's a little ridiculous...
He avergaes 7.1 pts a game. If he were seriously the best teenager ever I think he would be a starter on a team (granted Monroe is pretty solid).
Yes rate stats are improtant- but this is pretty silly- he is nowhere near the best ever teenager... Yes if your a Pistons fan you are excited abotu hsi potential- but he should never ever be talked about as best teenager- LeBron as a teenager was so much better its not even worth bringing up
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I predict we don't get down||
I predict we don't get down by 20 points early and forget how to dribble and play basketabll...
I also predict Stauskas will score...
I know... brave picks....
71-68 close all the way- we win! I think the OSU game will have us very prepared- if you take out the first ten minutes we played a legit team away very very well for 30 minutes- think we can definitely win this one. No need to panic with a loss though unless we get outclassed the whole way- Minnesota is a very talented team.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||71-68 Michigan||
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Also they have won 11||
Also they have won 11 straight vs Indiana- not sure which streak is more impressive... I guess most people were too high on Illinois and way too low on Wisconsin- in a little over a week those two have essentially swapped places.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||I feel bad for Wiscy- they||
I feel bad for Wiscy- they have gone to three straight rose bowls in football- and have been an elite team in Big Ten basketball for quite some time but always seem to get passed over with recognition. Everyone was so quick to jump on UM, UI, OSU, and even Minny having great years- but Wisconsin did not get any love. Granted there were reasons to suspect a drop from them this year...
Just goes to show all conference games can be tough... Biggest thing to me is that this was at Indiana... I think everyone is going to get roughed up in conference this year and like last year it will be down to the wire for regular season champ- with a very possible co-champ situation again.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||That's pretty awesome! Quite||
That's pretty awesome!
Quite possibly the most exciting moment of his career (life?) and he still knows whats most important and does the right thing!
This is the type of thing to be proud about as a coach or fan. Plenty of guys can score and rebound- developing good men and people is so imprtant and what really makes the most difference!
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Never been as excited to see||
Never been as excited to see a player get on the court for the first time.
It will be nuts when he steps on the court for the first time at Crisler!!
|1 year 25 weeks ago||4 replies about women being||
4 replies about women being ranked for first time in a decade sandwiched between two post of 30 replies for where in top 5 men are ranked... Looks like we should all being paying more attention to the women!
Taking a team to the top 25 is a pretty significant acheivement! Here's to hoping our ladies can stay there!
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Teams can easily go on runs||
Teams can easily go on runs at home- it just so happened OSU went on one to start the game.
After we got down by 20 we played very well. To only lose by 3 on the road to a top opponent- especially after being down by 20- and having everyone essentially play a subpar game (save Albrecht) is not a bad thing. Hardaway sucked for the first 30 minutes, Burke played very poorly and made some bad decisions throughout the game, Stauskas was unbelievably bad on both ends, and GRIII was ehhh. To have that type of day and lose by 3 to a top 25 team on the road is no huge deal.
Everyone freaking out needs to relax and put it in perspective. Undefeated talk is over- #1 may come in time- I care about Big Ten champs and a final four run- those things are still very possible so relax. Big test against Minnesota coming up- if we look shaky in that then maybe we aren't an elite team yet (unable to beat the other top guys on the road)- otherwise I'm not sure why your outlook for this team should be any different than it was before the game...
|1 year 26 weeks ago||I was always told the idea of||
I was always told the idea of the best tackle being on the left side is that its the QBs blindside (assuming QB is righty) and the strongest DE is usually against him coming from the defense's right. The QB can see to the right better if he's a righty- so he can respond to pressure better meaning you want better defense from the left side. I've never really thought about how tackles impact what direction to run the ball- that always seems like more of a coaches philosophy to me- so I was thinking our running wouldn't change?
Was I told correctly about the left/right tackle positioning strategy?
|1 year 26 weeks ago||I agree. It sucks for Vincent||
It sucks for Vincent Smith to be on the wrong end of a famous play- but its not like the play was his fault...
It was an amazing hit- and it is "funny" to watch. No problem with the humor related to it at all. If a Michigan player had the same play and you saw an ad the other way around it'd be funny.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Being a Michigan legend has||
Being a Michigan legend has nothing to do with the NFL. His Michigan career is over- so nothing can be added to his Michigan legend in the NFL. IT may help people remember him or keep him relevant- but I don't get your point. Tom Brady's legend at Michigan doesn't change in my mind because of the NFL- it'd be the same as if he never got off the bench at New England and never became the NFL star he is.
On another note- I love how much character is part of what Hoke talks about- everyone knows his numbers and the moments- but it's nice the staff focuses so much on character for being a Michigan Man or a Michigan Legend!
|1 year 26 weeks ago||I agree. It is fun to see a||
I agree. It is fun to see a top 5 with all souther schools and UM though!
|1 year 27 weeks ago||It all depends on who drafts||
It all depends on who drafts him. He could play so many positions its just a function of what team snage him up first and how they evaluate him.
As a Michigan fan I want him to get playing time- I dont care at what position. I doubt he will every get snaps at QB although that'd be best obviously- maybe a Randel El situation would be pretty cool.
It would be weird to see him on defense...
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Goes to show you can never||
Goes to show you can never look like a fool if you are doing the right thing!
How you respond after a loss means more than what you do in victory- lots of RESPECT for that move!
|1 year 27 weeks ago||Beilein has done an amazing||
Beilein has done an amazing job. We used to be a joke of a program now not many can say their future (or present) looks nearly as bright as ours!
Not a bad hire!
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Weight Gain||
How in the world do these guys go from 230 to 280- that's insane to think about- especially since most of that is pure muscle...
Congrats to him- pretty cool record to have!
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Without being guarded what||
Without being guarded what percentage do most 3-point specialists make? 90% seems amazing- but I honestly have no idea what most great NCAA/NBA 3-point guys would shoot unguarded practicing...
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Look at the teams other top||
Look at the teams other top 10 teams have lost to this year already and in the past- it's not as easy as looking for the next top 10 team on the schedule and saying we or any other team won't lose until then.
Plus rankings matter very little- just keep taking care of business and the rest wil lfall into place- way too early to be caught up too much into who is number 1 and projections at this point.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||I see that as the most ideal||
I see that as the most ideal or ceiling for him- although I'd love to be proven wrong.
Whatever position will let him play works for me- it'd be great to see him suit up Sunday's no matter where on the field he plays!
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Sparty does have||
Sparty does have international appeal though!
|1 year 29 weeks ago||The relationship with Mott is||
The relationship with Mott is such a great thing that our athletic department does! Great to see ap layer be recognized for participating!
Good luck to Faith (patient he befriended)!
Also- how awesome would it actually be to see Omameh play tennis...
|1 year 29 weeks ago||I imagine a lot of parents||
I imagine a lot of parents have been asked by their kids to see a game- and now that school is getting out and the game is cheaper than future Big Ten games I don't think it's too surprising- it's great to see the excitement about UM Basketball again though! Who would have thought 5 years ago we'd be receiving first place votes and be poissibly undefeated heading into Big Ten play to DEFEND a Big Ten title...
Thoughts: May not see as much rest from players as you would think since it is a slower week and players may not need as much rest. Plus with Horford injury the big man rotation will stay the same as it has been. Spike and Caris will hopefully see more time because we should crush Eastern- not because of break would be my guess. Im also not sure you want to rest Burke too much- if he stays on fire I would want to keep fueling that fire and aim for 30-35 minutes especialyl knowing he will have time to rest after the game- let him stay hot.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Regardless of whether or not||
Regardless of whether or not this is a diary or a board topic it was a great read!
Thanks for the research and thought!
|1 year 29 weeks ago||It appears they want 1 more||
It appears they want 1 more OL in the class- is it a matter of which kid offered will commit first- or will they wait to hear back from a certain prospect first? Are Hunt and Samuelson the two most likely?
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Thanks for coming back! It is||
Thanks for coming back!
It is definitely his team- and he is so fun to watch!
|1 year 30 weeks ago||There are a lot og UK fans||
There are a lot og UK fans who never were sold on him because of his past and sleeziness factor- maybe a lot of people were ok when he won- but anything but elite might not be able to overcome those image problems with some fans? Or UK fans have the shortest memories?
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Also the team following a tie||
Also the team following a tie for 8 should be 10 not 9... I always hate that...
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Burke is probably the most||
Burke is probably the most popular guy on the team- but I wonder if Stauskas is getting close? Hard not to like such a pure shooter and his production... seems like a good kid too! My guess is when Burke goes pro after this year Stauskas is the most popular guy on the team- while his production is certainly a shock- that may be even crazier to think about- especially with a whole team of very likable guys!
|1 year 30 weeks ago||I agree with your||
I agree with your conclusions- but I think its interesting everyone seems to only be looking at this from the persepctive of Petrino.
This is a great hire for WKU. He is clearly a legit coach who should be able to recruit talent superior to the rest of the conference- and he can be successful there. Worst case for them is he is using them to get a bigger job ASAP- in which case they are in the same shape they are in now having likely gotten an influx of talent and top coaching advice for a year or two to build off of.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Heisman winners are most||
Heisman winners are most likely to be a QB and almost always come from a power conference team- and the historically great teams do have an advantage- so being UM's starting QB puts you in a good starting position. Since most people expect UM to be a solid team next year and there are no other star players in skill positions he will certainly be a candidate in that sense- but I agree three games is awefully little to go off of.
I think it's incredibly unlikely because that list has some seriously great atheltes on teams that will liekly be better than UM next year. Plus- if he is a candidate I'd be more excited that it would mean our team nect year greatly overachieved and would be a title contender- no other way he's be in the conversation late in the year if that werent the case.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||MSU, PSU, WISC, and NEB also||
MSU, PSU, WISC, and NEB also have an avg of the avg of above 3- they just have smaller classes. I think when your recruits are all on average a three star you have a shot of putting together solid top 25 teams.
But I agree with what you are saying- it looks like OSU and UM may be the only two title contenders if things pan out similarly to how recruting rankings and general predicitions expect. But 2 title contenders is not a bad thing.
PAC-12: Oregon, Stanford, and USC- three title contenders and the rest never too seriously fit that bill
Big East- Zero contenders
ACC- FSU, Clemson and not much else consistently
Big 12- Oklahoma, OKST, UT, and KSU- I think this is the only case where you can say a conference that the Big Ten should be better than has more contenders- but KSU doesn't quite hold up to UM and OSU long term in the same way
Plus, if it weren't for sanctions PSU would be in the discussion, and WISC three straight BCS bowls is nto a bad number three team- although it remains to be seen what direction they will go in the future.
I don't think this is the biggest problem. Plus, even if it is totally true- as long as the rest of the conference is solid enough that the Big Ten winner has a decent shot at the title evry year that's not too bad a thing since it means best of those two has a good shot- and as a UM or OSU fan that's not a bad thing...
|1 year 30 weeks ago||His league had a ton of top||
His league had a ton of top prospects (including McGary)- and he was MVP of the tournament which is pretty impressive- so maybe thats hwy the poster is surprised he got less offers...
If I remember correct his offers (or just schools recruiting him maybe) were Ivy's and schools like UVM. He had D1 opportunities at smaller schools where his size and athleticism weren't going to limit his potential like they will at a power conference.
Sure he is serviceable- but I don't think that's a big surprise. He was a high IQ guy that would handle the ball well and not make mistakes but not stand out either- and that is what he has shown so far- and I doubt he will ever become much more than that.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Burke is the key- if he||
Burke is the key- if he handles the ball like he has of late with many assists and rarely a turnover the press will lose lots of its impact on the game. Look to see if McGary struggles with the press- he has been turnover prone though- so he may lose some time. Hopefully Hardaway and Stausksas handle the pressure ok so they can stay on the court- I hope the fast pace may leave Stausksas open more than a traditional defense so he may have a good opportunity to get a lot of 3s off.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Best post ever! I will||
Best post ever!
I will randomely be laughing hours or days from now as those images and "in the weight room, in the community..." randomely pops in my head...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Gee really needs to focus on||
Gee really needs to focus on the school and stop making stupid comments about sports- imo it makes him look like a cry-baby and a fool. In the scheme of his job sports play only a small role. Schools have ADs to run sports programs because presidents know about academics and not sports- he should stick to what he knows best- academics.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Dude must like Louisville-||
Dude must like Louisville- accroding to ESPN turned down 3.5 mill for a 2.3 mill deal. That's a crap-ton of money to say no to- especially to a high profile SEC school...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||I get your point. I'm a bit||
I get your point. I'm a bit of a homer...
But I agree, if he can't find a spot because he cant change a bad attitude I won't feel bad for him.
I guess I hope he stops being a fool more than is lucky...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||I get your points about||
I get your points about changing his systems- but I would say he is still a "system guy" because he still utilizes the zone a fair amount, and does still rely on 3s quite a bit- but more importantly he recruits guys to play a very specific style of basketball. Recently that has included high ranking recruits which is why we are a top-5 team- but those recruits still very much fit the mold of what he is looking for. There's a reason Stauskas picked UM for example.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Why no UConn 2011? Calhoun||
Why no UConn 2011? Calhoun was 68- the oldest champion coach ever.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Goes to show how recruiting||
Goes to show how recruiting in a system is so successful. Not sure Kentucky recruits for a system they just offer 5-stars and work around talent. Beilein takes guys that he knows will fit his system- so they come here and play the type of ball they like and fit in well. I think it is also why guys "overachieve" expectations at UM- because the system/chemistry allows guys to reach their full potential.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||People tend to think as long||
People tend to think as long as you are an exceptionally gifted athlete you are set- it's unfortunate that people so talented continue to prove that wrong by acting in the wrong way and making stupid decisions. Hard to imagine with his talent and past recent success this is where he's at...
Best of luck to him and hope he lands somewhere he can be succesful..
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Incredible Coverage||
They have the best UM basketball coverage- let's hope they can keep it going for a long time- donate if you can!!!
|1 year 31 weeks ago||SEC is also better than every||
SEC is also better than every conference- so if you are a coach that is the best place to be for most- makign it easier to lure coaches. Unless you are in an elite job- UM, Ohio, Texas, etc. you can be lured by the SEC- not as true for other BCS conferences.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Plus MAC> Big East. SEC||
Plus MAC> Big East.
SEC coaches aren't leaving, BigTen isn't poachign from other BigTen schools- so unless there are PAC-12, Big12, or ACC coaches available the only choices are MAC or coordinators from big conferences. In NCAA BB there are so many D1 teams with rising stars for coaches in mid-majors- in football its so much harder.
Plus as Hoke shows so much of being a top coach is attitude and relations to students and recruiting. There are plenty of great MAC tpye guys for that. The bigger issue is bottom-teir BigTen jobs aren't very appealing to top coaches imo...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||This type of thing is why||
This type of thing is why college always trumps pros for me.
There are busts and there are surprises and kids really grow up in college. There is such a great sense of accomplishment and pride in that- and from the write up it seems like all these kids recognize this- and that is great to see.
And the Kovaks joke is terrific!
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Thanks to both you guys!||
Thanks to both you guys!
|1 year 31 weeks ago||List of past winners? Anyone||
List of past winners?
Anyone have a good link for old winners- would be neat to see!
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Exciting match up! Coming in||
Exciting match up!
Coming in to the year most had us border-line top 10ish teams. We lost to #1 #2 and #3 teams and Nebraska (top-20ish team) all on the road and Nebrasa with a big asterisk.
We beat Northwester (top-20ish team) and everyone else we should have- so its very hard to accurately gauge how good this team is.
This will be a really good chance to see. If we win we are border-line top 10ish to top 15ish, if we keep it close 15-25, and if we stink it up then we can agree we were most likely overrated and are a fringe top-25 team.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Might as well save time and||
Might as well save time and put a disclaimer in the actual blog entry- must get very annoying answering this in the questions every time...
|1 year 31 weeks ago||No matter what system ACE||
No matter what system ACE uses someone will complain.
This system is as transparent and unbiased as possible. Plus, its not hard to go through and rerank the list in the order you prefer most (average stars etc.).
The problem with recruiting rankings is always big classes vs. small classes- particularly in basketball. Is a class of 5 three starts better than one with a 5 star and a 4 star?
I like how this system is standardized as consistent. Always great to see these updates!
|1 year 32 weeks ago||The article linked through||
The article linked through the NYT article didnt work for me...
I was wondering if they broke it down by conference- or compared BCS teams and FBS seperately. Perhaps BCS conferences had improvement that was offset by FBS schools that remained the same after coaching changes (or the opposite).
I was also wondering if any other sports were part of it. Recruiting plays such a big role in football where uppercalssmen domiante so much- it can take 3 years to get your system going (or longer).
In basketball a new coach can get highly recruited freshman and change a program quicker imo.
Overall this is interesting but each firing is unique- and they need to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis imo.
Plus, a lot of firing coaches is money and confidence not simply results. Some firings seem to be equally about revitalizing programs (and revenue) more than even results...
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Awesome Content||
I'm new to MGoBlog and its content like this that gets me hooked!
Great info and writeups!
Thanks for the great content!
I wish I could watch some of our recruits...
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Two questions I am too lazy||
Two questions I am too lazy to look up and want to know...
1- Where does he rank recruiting-wise?
2- What are his odds of ending up at Michigan?
|1 year 32 weeks ago||It seems froms shallmans||
It seems froms shallmans comments he really wants to stick at RB- and it seems like he was told he'd get a shot.
A big part of position changes and who plays what is honesty. Lots of coaches will promise shots to play prefered positions and then not follow through. It seems like Hoke and co. are honest about where they see players. Obviously some people will ultimately switch but my bet is that for the freshman year all recruits pretty much know where they will play. It will only change if they don't pan out, change physically, or the next recruiting class changes priorities.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Beilein||
Funny video.. I prefer the youtubes of him draining threes though!
|1 year 32 weeks ago||My understanding was that he||
My understanding was that he was still taking reps in practice- I guess if I was wrong that makes more sense. But either way I think he could have come in and kept us in contention which Bellomy clearly could not- and that would be the fault of the staff not giving him reps not the fact he played WR.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Bellomy sucked it up||
Bellomy sucked it up obviously filling in for Denard. Gardner should have gone in- and him having played WR should not have made that impossible.
He played WR well even if his impact was not enormous. You want your best athletes on the field and he should have played (having a dual QB thing all year like in the last few games woulod have been sweet...).
Unless playing WR meant he could not have played QB I don't think him playing WR mattered too much. I don't buy that him playing WR made it so he couldn't have filled in- plus its hard to imagine he'd have done worse than Bellomy.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||From the ESPN article: "Of||
From the ESPN article:
"Of those 13 schools, nine are former members of Conference USA, two are former Mountain West members and one is a former Mid-American Conference member."
That's just gross... If the MWC schools return do some of the schools look to rejoin Conference USA or find a new home- or will the Big Eat survive as the weirdest mid-major possible...
|1 year 32 weeks ago||I remember when the Big East||
I remember when the Big East raided Conference USA- its sad that those Conference USA teams are now whats holding the conference together...
The ACC will likely want to replace Maryland with a shcool like Louisville or UConn- and then what happens?
Why are school still joining the Big East- it seems like the certain instability outweighs the marginal improvements from moving "up" to the Big East...
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Big East = mid major||
The Big East is indeed fast becoming a Conference USA or MAC like conference.
It's actually pretty sad. Especially when the Big East loses all BCS perks and becomes mediocre and not at all geographically connected it will just be a mess. At least in the MAC schools are close together... the Big East offers its members nothing but somewhat decent basketball and huge travel costs
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Thanks!||
It's amazing how fast MGoBlog answers questions on forums!
Appreciate the research!
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Historical Perspective||
Only three teams seems very low to me.
Granted traditional basketball powers: UK, KU, Duke, Syracuse, UConn etc. are not great football schools- it seems like most top teams in either sport is from BCS conferences and that just by chance there should be more overlap.
The are more mid-major top-25 in both sports than normal- and the chance that a mid0major is top-25 for both is very low I suppose?
Is there anyone with a crazy memory or more time than me who can look up how often the overlap in top-25 has been this low?
Either way it is a very cool thing to be relevant in both sports- and a good time to be a Wolverine!!
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Big Gut||
Love the big gut comment!
Hope his gut is right- Gardner looked really solid- would love to keep him around and let Morris mature before taking over.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||I think most UM fans want to||
I think most UM fans want to be in the hunt for the rose bowl annually and at least in the discussion for a championship every recruiting cycle (4 years). I think we had a solid year- losses to 3 of the top 5 teams on the road and to what may be the Big Ten champ also on the road is not too bad. 8-4 isn't great- but when you consider all loses on the road to top 15 teams- and two without Denard as a legit QB option it doesn't seem too bad. But of course at the end of the day we are on the outside looking in making excuses for what could have been (no Denard injury may mean wins at OSU and NEB), Borges, etc.
None of that really matters. Yes we had a hard schedule, yes we can claim luck helped our opponents in loses more than it helped us- but ultimately our season reflected our level of play. To be a legit power you need to take care of business on the road- and we couldn't do that.
We have some great recruiting classes coming in and enough returning players to do well- but I think next year will be similar to this year was where we struggle against top teams particularly on the road. My hope is that like two years ago a more favorable schedule means we can luck our way into a BCS game- but unfortunately it seems like we are at least a couple years away from becoming a real power IMO.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||End of World||
End of world.... no- but there is so little experience at WR on that depth chart and nobody that is really proven.
I agree if you have 3-5 average to above average guys a stud may not be necessary- but 3-5 below average with maybe the potential to be average is not ideal to me.
Maybe we are looking at a future where TE's are getting a higher percentage of pass plays and good TE classes could mitigate the WR issues- but imo we need a big time threat. Spread guys or average WR are easy enough to contain- adding one legit threat also can give those spread guys or average WR more space and allow them to be passable if not stellar as a WR corps.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||WR||
Anyone else looking at future WR depth charts and feeling very mehhh about it?
Hope Treadwell commits- or that if not the backup plan for a big player WR can still come in this class.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||4 Divisions||
While your 4 division idea was made in jest I do think a 4 divisions would be best if we ultimately become a 16 team conference.
For the sake of arguement lets assume the Big Ten jumps to 9 games in conference and that we add two teams. Lets sat UVA and VT (which exact two does not necessarily matter).
The divisions could be geographically based, like:
Northwest Division: Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin
West-Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, and Purdue
East-Central: Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio, and Penn State
East: Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia, and Virginia Tech
The divisions could be tweaked to even out- or to adjust if two added teams are better in a different region geographically....
Lets say you are in Division A- you could play all of Divison B and 1/2 of C. The next year you'd play the other 1/2 of C and all of D. That way you would have a 4 year cycle to play every team home and away.
I like that idea better than two groups of 8 playing the other group of 8 once a decade or so.
What does everyone else think of divisions of 4 if we go to 16?