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18 hours 25 min ago For expressing a legitimate

For expressing a legitimate opinion?

21 hours 43 min ago Of those choices, Stanford. 

Of those choices, Stanford.  Actually I like that idea in general.

1 day 1 hour ago There's going to be a ton of

There's going to be a ton of speculation on why he transfered, and only Jabrill really knows why.  I know he did say that he just wasn't happy at Bosco.  Had nothing to do with sports, but rather he had friends at Paramus that he felt closer to.  Also mentioned Paramus' academics, but I have to think that all elite private schools in the area are pretty good academic institutions as well.

1 day 2 hours ago He has played CB. His

He has played CB. His freshman and sophomore year he played CB at Don Bosco and won national freshman and sophomore of the year (probably partially because Bosco is a national HS powerhouse). He transferred to Paramus, and they have him play safety/nickel. I'm not sure why, but putting him there probably makes him more active in a high school D than just leaving him wide and having offenses just stay away from him.

1 day 2 hours ago I would argue he would have a

I would argue he would have a bigger impact at CB now and in the future (pros)

1 day 4 hours ago One small comment: Peppers

One small comment: Peppers may not play CB for Paramus, but he did play CB his freshman and sophomore year at Don Bosco where he won national Freshman and Sophomore of the year. So learning that position will not be entirely foreign.

1 day 18 hours ago I guess that's just the catch

I guess that's just the catch for me; I don't think Borges has ever game planned around a bad match-up.

1 day 19 hours ago I believe I can infer your

I believe I can infer your intent was to try and belittle me for, one, my use of the colloquial phrasing 'dunno', and second, for my belief that the bubble screen is a more effective play than an RB trucking a DN when said DB is sneaking inside instead of covering the slot receiver. Since you use Bama and their lack of bubble screens as an example, that tells me you didn't actually read my post considering I specifically stated I do not believe we can compare ourselves to Bama considering the talent differential. All while with dripping sarcasm and no substance which serves no purpose other than the type of self gratification a 5th grader gets for making fun if someone's shoes. If you are that concerned with the use of 'dunno' there are ways to do that without acting like a douchebag. If you really think the bubble screen is not worth sacrificing a run play, there are ways to do that as well. So, again, thank you for contributing nothing to this discussion.

1 day 19 hours ago Maybe I should clarify the

Maybe I should clarify the 'out-execution' thing. In the Borges (as we've seen it) offense, each player has to win one-on-one match ups. Your center needs to move a 320 lbs nose tackle. Your guards have to effectively pull. Your WRs need to beat their DBs. Your QB needs pinpoint passing. In the RR offense (for example), you couldn't block that NT? Then don't and just option him. Set up QB isos to get receivers who have no DB on them. Pulling was less emphasized so the complicated steps involved in pulling didn't mean death to an interior run game when you have someone who can't do it well. Now Im not saying the spread us the answer, but Borges seemingly is taking the attitude that if your center can't move that NT (out execute him) then we're just screwed. While RR's, and all offenses, require execution, other OC's can change the structure if the offense to adjust when someone just can't do it well. Bama and USC under Carroll are the only teams I can think of that we're able to win all these one on one match-ups and run that offense a really high level.

1 day 20 hours ago Thank you for contributing

Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to this conservation.

1 day 21 hours ago Wow, this is just amazing

Wow, this is just amazing that you got the interview. 

After reading these a few times, I have to say that there a few things that scare me about the future of the offense.  Does he really think that the defense can't be good if the offense plays up tempo?  He doesn't like bubble screens because he would rather an RB truck a DB than throw to the outside where there's no one to tackle him?  He mentioned out-executing in the last interivew as why things don't work.  A run that doesn't gain yards is OK if you can get 35 yards off play action.  But why do the bad run 4 times on critical 3rd and 4th downs?  Why no other different types of plays.  I dunno.  I suppose I'll still withhold final judgement, but that kind of stuff just screams "dinosaur offense" to me.  I just don't think we can Alabama people because, even as good recruiting as we're doing, we still don't have that kind of talent (and this assumes we also have the same level of coaching as Saban's staff, which is also probably not likely all the way through the coaching staff).

2 days 18 hours ago I've re-read this a few

I've re-read this a few times, and I've decided I really don't like the last quote from Borges. It seems like that classic 'execution' quote that means the OC believes they don't need to scheme in order to win.

2 days 19 hours ago Fantastic

Fantastic

3 days 3 hours ago Fantastic. A bowl game

Fantastic. A bowl game against BCS competition with a B1G team actually at home? I never thought I would see the day.

3 days 3 hours ago He said he likes to be the

He said he likes to be the 'loner' or something along those lines. Said he just thinks staying close to home will get more important when it gets closer to actually making a decision.

3 days 20 hours ago This is probably one of the

This is probably one of the single greatest items I have read about UM football on any sports blog.  I'm amazed by how open he's being.  Truly great work.

4 days 1 hour ago Preach

Preach

6 days 3 hours ago Then you apparently haven't

Then you apparently haven't been around these parts very much.

6 days 22 hours ago Isn't Jones 6'4"?  He

Isn't Jones 6'4"?  He measured that at the most recent camp he was at.  That just screams gaurd to me, and we have plenty of interior OL.  We need a prototypical tackle.  I like Johnson and his frame, but I really have no idea where we stand with him.  If we can't get someone like that, then I would also be OK waiting until they find someone they like with a 6'6" or 6'7" from and long arms.  Even if it's a rawer prospect, we need tackles on the roster.

6 days 22 hours ago Don't want him at this

Don't want him at this point.  He's a guard, and we need a prototypical tackle.  Jones measured 6-4 at that camp a few weeks ago. 

6 days 23 hours ago So who's the next table

Hamburgers.

So who's the next tackle target?

6 days 23 hours ago Huh?  Juju = John Smith. 

Huh?  Juju = John Smith.  Juwann = JBB (the commit).  Is there something I'm missing here?

6 days 23 hours ago His Dad is also being paroled

His Dad is also being paroled this summer if all goes according to plan.  Ok, gotta stop this line of thinking.  I'm just talking myself into thinking he's going to Rutgers.

1 week 6 min ago Agree.  Changing from UM to

Agree.  Changing from UM to Rutgers this late in the game is what Wiltfong has been doing (like his Ian Bunting) and making him look like a genius.  Maybe a gambit on Gerry's part.  Maybe he got a whiff of something legit other haven't.

1 week 2 hours ago Man, I'm really impressed

Man, I'm really impressed with how great ESPN is evaluating this cycle.

But seriously, I still don't think we have the #1 class in signing day; class will be too small.  If we get top-10 I'll be happy.  If we get top-5, then we're looking to have reeled in Hand, McDowell, Bars, Wesphal, Scott, etc...and that would be epic.

1 week 2 hours ago Morris' ceiling is just so

Morris' ceiling is just so high because of that arm.  He has some of the best arm strength of any QB prospect I've seen since Mallett.  But he's raw.  As you mentioned, he's a gunslinger, and tries to rocket everything it seems like.  Consistancy is also an issue, as has been pointed out.  Like in the UA game, he had some poor throws, but he also probably had the best throw of the game.  Everybody forgets it because it ended up incomplete, but he threw a perfect ball on a long fade to Treadwell in the endzone.  Treadwell was very well covered by Hargreaves (last year's best CB), but Morris put it high and away right in stride, so only Treadwell could get it.  Treadwell went up, got both hands on it, and then lost it when Hargreaves got a hand on it asTreadwell was bringing it into his body.  Treadwell holds onto that and Morris' stat line looks a lot better.  Did anybody else even throw a TD in that game?  Anyway, Morris' may not be sure thing, but if he can harness that potential and find consistancy, then he can be that proverbial 'special' talent.

1 week 3 hours ago Am I the only one that kind

Am I the only one that kind of wants us to play Appy St again?  I mean, not playing them again is never going to erase The Horror.  It will suck to have to watch the endless highlight replays leading up to the game.  But if we come out and crush them, then, eh, now we no longer have a losing record to them, and anytime someone brings The Horror up, we could just respond "56-7" or something like that which I hope the score will be.  Bam, natural order restored.  If I were Appy St., I wouldn't have taken the game.  A loss takes some of the luster off the first game.  A loss just proves The Horror was one of those freak upsets that happens in sports.

1 week 4 hours ago Exposure is good as long as

Exposure is good as long as he does well

1 week 17 hours ago So...anybody else Isis

So...anybody else Isis Taylor's tweet to Elisha Shaw? Fantastic.

1 week 22 hours ago They'll flip home/away, so it

They'll flip home/away, so it is a favorable schedule. But we'll also be breaking in a new QB. So...damn. Otherwise I would agree with you.

1 week 1 day ago Are we sure the 2015 schedule

Are we sure the 2015 schedule sets up nicely?  They didn't release that one, so are they planning on not just flipping the home/aways from the 2014?  I can honestly say I wouldn't be surprised to see us then have to play Neb and Wisc on the road in 2015, because, hey why wouldn't that happen to us?

1 week 1 day ago God, this was really stupid. 

God, this was really stupid.  With no more ND, we have two rivalry games.  And they don't freaking alternate?  What the hell Brandon?

1 week 1 day ago And yet, it won't matter

And yet, it won't matter because they'll still have 65 guys on scholarship...

1 week 1 day ago B1G really likes to screw us

B1G really likes to screw us with conference schedules lately. First basketball, now this shit?

1 week 1 day ago You'll notice I never said

You'll notice I never said alternate uniforms were the key to attracting students.  But I do believe they can be a small part of a bigger push to create some more excitement surrounding gamedays.  And as far as recruiting, first, every single one of those top recruiting teams have done alternate uniforms recently.  Heck, ND went crazy alternate this year and last.  But you can't just pull out that list and say "alternate uniforms aren't needed".  That list has a team which has probably the best (or at least most successful) coach of the last half century (Alabama) in a region stocked with talent, then a list of the major schools in the most talent producing states: Ohio, Fl, heck the south in general of Alabama, Lousiana, Texas, Georgia.  UM does not have those advantages right now.  I could also counter with Oregon as the extreme example of putting a school on the map with major re-branding and a savy coacing hire.  I don't think an alternate uniform will sell a recruit, but it can make a recruit think to himself 'cool', and if that little bit puts us over the edge, then I'll take it.  Being the best team is the most important thing (as long as the colors are still Maize and Blue, and the helmets have wings.  I still think that shouldn't be touched).

1 week 1 day ago I dunno, from everything I've

I dunno, from everything I've heard, the players and recruits really do like alternate uniforms.  And frankly, if this is part of what it takes (I know it's not the only thing) to keep up with today's youth, then I'm all for it.  We can't fill our student section, and those students are going to be the future alumni base that will support UM and its sports for years to come.  ESPN's Big Ten Blog actually just had an article on this very subject.  Things need to be done to enhance the gameday experience for today's kids.  It was different for us older folks (I'm not really that old), who went to these games as kids.  Then gamedays didn't have to compete with 70" HD screens and the increasingly technological and 'short attention span' twitter type world we have now.  Alternate uniforms isn't some magic bullet, but it might be a small step toward ensuring the youth today are actually excited about college football, UM, and acutally going to the game.

1 week 1 day ago You sound like a very smart

You sound like a very smart person. I'm sure you can look at the data so nicely complied and presented by Ace to draw your own conclusions.

1 week 1 day ago I believe Ace just changed

I believe Ace just changed the rankings to go by the 247 composite rankings, considering no matter what Ace (or Tim before him) did, people would complain about the process of averaging stars and/or ranking the teams.  So basically blame ESPN and/or 247 for not evaluating the prospects and/or having an algorithm that doesn't account for ESPN not ranking prospects.

1 week 1 day ago Perhaps he's shifted his

Perhaps he's shifted his focus after seeing a lot of those talented Ohio kids end up at UM, but I think it's also just how the chips happen to fall in regards to where kids are leaning each year. 

1 week 1 day ago Considering the visit will

Considering the visit will happen on Thursday, most think Rutgers (like 15 min from him).

1 week 2 days ago Besides the prediction, it's

Besides the prediction, it's really nice to see Harris working out with Speight and that QB coach Speight sees in San Diego (I'm assuming that's where he's going).  I guess Speight really did have a large part in flipping Harris.

1 week 2 days ago Does Ace have a Hello post

Does Ace have a Hello post written yet?

1 week 2 days ago Michigan?

Michigan?

1 week 2 days ago Will this by any chance

Will this by any chance happen in New York?

1 week 2 days ago Three LBs?  Do we really need

Three LBs?  Do we really need 3 in such a small class? 

1 week 2 days ago That was absolutely amazing

That was absolutely amazing

1 week 2 days ago I can totally buy it

I can totally buy it

1 week 2 days ago LOL Meatchicken? Oh Louis.

LOL Meatchicken? Oh Louis.

1 week 2 days ago Good luck to him.  I wish him

Good luck to him.  I wish him a long and succesful career.

1 week 2 days ago I can't believe it.  Dantonio

I can't believe it.  Dantonio is getting so desperate to oversign that he's forcing kids who haven't even enorlled yet out the door.  Afterall, if I've learned anything from Spartan fans, it's that any kid who signs and LOI and doesn't complete 5 years at the program, then they're being forced out due to oversigning.  For shame Dantonio.

1 week 3 days ago Hooray using exceptions to

Hooray using exceptions to extrapolate grand conclusions!

1 week 3 days ago Well it's kind of true. The

Well it's kind of true. The ACC is daunting enough as it is. Don't want to have to play UM as well.

1 week 4 days ago Yesh, I didn't really think

Yesh, I didn't really think about the angle of potential burned (wasted) red-shirts due to special teams because of these losses.  Really don't want to see another RJS thing where a player obviously needs a red-shirt and burns it playing special teams.

1 week 4 days ago His next step is to transfer

His next step is to transfer to UMass and then get drafted.

1 week 4 days ago It has to go to Cleary. That

It has to go to Cleary. That way our back-up QB will be a scholarship player, and we'll be alright if Gardner goes down. Logic.

1 week 4 days ago He was always a great hitter.

He was always a great hitter. But I was under the impression he consistently got lost in coverage/out of position.

1 week 4 days ago Do you think he does? He

Do you think he does? He already interviewed for an NFL job after 1 year.

1 week 4 days ago At this point they need every

At this point they need every 4 star to live up to the billing, and most of the 2-3 stars to outperform. And do this without any transfers/off-field issues/injuries. That just doesn't seem realistic for sustained success.

1 week 4 days ago Seriously. It's OK. All the

Seriously. It's OK. All the four stars are like, the lowest of 4 stars as well. They're not in the same ball park as UM and OSU. Decent, but not phenomenal. And this also completely glosses over the main fact that have no depth for the better part of the decade. And I'm starting to get irritated by PSU's additude like the 'Man' is trying to keep them down. Your coach and staff was complicit in children getting raped in the freaking program. Just take your punishment and move on. Get some perspective.

1 week 6 days ago Holy shit. Did not expect

Holy shit. Did not expect that. Is Coach Brown actually really good?

1 week 6 days ago As far as I know, ESPN

As far as I know, ESPN doesn't do the rolling team rankings like other sites do.  Every month or so, they do a re-calculation and re-release the list.  So if we added like 4 new players today, we would have to wait for a new team rankings list from ESPN.  Not like Rivals or 247 where the entire list would be updated today.

1 week 6 days ago Man, ESPN is, like, by far

Man, ESPN is, like, by far the best, and most accurate, ranking service this cycle. So far.

2 weeks 5 hours ago Interesting that you see him

Interesting that you see him as an SDE. Think he has the frame to carry that kind if weight well? I suppose if Heitzman can do it...

2 weeks 19 hours ago And what would OSU have been?

And what would OSU have been? How about UM? NW actually beat an SEC team that was better than 7th in the conference.

2 weeks 1 day ago I tired to order 3 different

I tired to order 3 different shirts at three different times and the Internet has stopped working every time. I has a sad.

2 weeks 1 day ago I believe the prevailing

I believe the prevailing thought is that Winovich is still OSU bound at this point.

2 weeks 1 day ago Oklahoma borders Texas, one

Oklahoma borders Texas, one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation, and gets a lot of prospects from there.  Kansas St popped up the last two years, and did previously during the Sproles years; Snyder is a good coach.  But even they haven't reach the consistancy.  And yes, UW is the exception to the isolated, low "talent", team that everybody always points to (which also plays in the terrible B1G).  But there's a reason they're the exception: it's because they're like the only one whose been able to do that.  I wouldn't want to have to be the exception to the rule if I were Nebraska.

2 weeks 1 day ago College football has changed,

College football has changed, and Nebraka geographically and demographically is being put behind the eight ball.  Not to mention the recruiting game has changed, and depending on official visits from a prospects senior season is putting them way behind in the race for the best as well.

2 weeks 1 day ago Eh, he did OK.  I mean, he

Eh, he did OK.  I mean, he held onto Hackenberg and Breneman, which were the two 5 star headliners, both at the two positions O'Brian is known for developing.  And both were big PSU fans in the first place.  Other than that, they lost a lot of talent.  That OL that went to Pitt, DT Webb, Ross Douglass...those were all 4 or 5 star types that left after the sanctions.  Look at this class so far: they've got some decent talent.  Some low 4 star players.  But the recruiting isn't up to UM or OSU.  It's more like Nebraska.

Let me put it this way.  If we lose Peppers to a school that will have the most crippling scholarship reductions since the Pony Excess for the better part of the decade, one that can't go to a bowl or play in the champ game for half his time at the school, has a coach whose only head coaching accomplishment is NOT going .500 (admittidly, a decent accomplishment), and who has already interviewed for an NFL position after one season?  All the while we have Greg Freakin' Mattison recruiting him and coaching him?  Well, if we lose him to PSU, then that will be an epic fail on the staff's part.

2 weeks 1 day ago Except the whole "we

Except the whole "we literally have to play you everywhere considering we have no depth anywhere because of sholarship reductions" thing.

2 weeks 1 day ago Would like it more if he just

Would like it more if he just cancels all other visits and commits to UM.  Because, obviously.

2 weeks 2 days ago Oh, and all this tells me is

Oh, and all this tells me is that he didn't actually watch any B1G football last year.

2 weeks 2 days ago Yeah, but Lane Kiffen is a

Yeah, but Lane Kiffen is a big confounder to that example

2 weeks 2 days ago Wait, so no team in the B1G

Wait, so no team in the B1G will beat them, so that means they can beat the best SEC team? Something in this logic doesn't follow...

2 weeks 2 days ago Don't mind playing Duke, but

Don't mind playing Duke, but the home/away scheduling the last few years seems to really screw us. 

2 weeks 2 days ago So you're telling me that if

So you're telling me that if Trey Burke just worked as hard as he did at UM for two years, but didn't go to college and instead trained in his driveway and at a gym, he would still have the opportunity to go number 1 overall in this year's draft?  Heck, even if he did the same, but at SDSU for two years?  If you believe that, then I guess there's no point in debating cause we are on totally different wavelengths.   Oh, and you won't find me arguing with you about the out of control arms race in terms of spending college athletics has become.

2 weeks 2 days ago I knew what I was getting

I knew what I was getting into before I started down the path of student debt, and I'm happy with my decision, but it still doesn't change the fact that the debt sucks.  And you say I have the choice to attend a cheaper university or not to attend college.  But then you argue athletes don't have that choice?  Where does it say in any professional league that you HAVE to attend college?  You don't want to put in the work for a college program?  Ok, then don't go.  If you're a basketball player, then just sit out one year after you finish high school.  NFL?  Then sit out three years.  Don't risk injury, don't let an oranization make million off you.  Then you can just jump right into a professional team.  Profit.

2 weeks 2 days ago Might teach kids valuable

Might teach kids valuable money management skills as well. God knows it taught me that.

2 weeks 2 days ago I agree it's symbiotic.

I agree it's symbiotic. Would Burke receive the same employment opportunities he's currently receiving (i.e. potential 1st pick in draft and immediate multimillionaire) if he didn't come to UM and receive the coaching he did and the exposure UM provides? Sure there are many big time schools that may have been able to provide the same, but somehow I doubt he has the same opportunity he has now if he goes to South Dakota St. Does the University get boosted revenues over baseline because Burke is leading the team in an historic season? Absolutely. But it's not like UM is some vampiric being that's sucking the life out of the down trodden student athlete making billions to buy new yachts laughing evilly the entire time. It's a serious academic institution where profits inevitably lead to other people receiving educations as well as lots of other pursuits that benefit society.

2 weeks 2 days ago I wonder if it ever devolves

I wonder if it ever devolves into full on revenue sharing like the Stanford professor outlined, schools will just get rid of a scholarships. Bam, there's 250 grand right there for an out of state athlete staying four years.



Maybe it's just me because I have just about a quarter million in school debt through my undergrad and grad school, but I hate how everyone just seems to gloss over the free education part. That's a fucking mortgage hanging around my neck for the foreseeable future, and I would have let the universities make as much money off of me as they wanted if that would get this anchor off me.

2 weeks 3 days ago Kind of sounds like he's got

Kind of sounds like he's got some real problem he needs to deal with.  Hopefully a year off will help him get his head straight.

2 weeks 3 days ago Grow up.  In the real world

Grow up.  In the real world you have to follow the laws, and in this case, the team rules.  Idealism isn't an excuse.  If Hagerup wants to play, he needs to follow team rules.  And don't act like the herb is some totally inncouous substance that never causes harm.  For all we know, Hagerup could have been missing work-outs, meetings, or classes to get high with his buddies.  Oh, and players still get suspended for drinking alcohol.

2 weeks 3 days ago Man, if Taylor sticks around

Man, if Taylor sticks around for his senior year, and Countess leaves after his fourth year as well, it's gonna be an absolute war for those corner spots going into the 2015 season.  We'll have Richardson (senior), Jourdan Lewis, Ross Douglass (who already had a good first spring) plus the developmental prospects who will have probably had time to develop like Dawson and Stribling.  Not counting Thomas in here either if they really want to move him to full time corner.  Then you add in (speculatively) Jabrill Peppers and another corner like Westphal (another 6'2" prospect)...man, gonna be fun watching that shake out.  Hopefully with all that competition, the winners end up being really good...

2 weeks 5 days ago Seriously? That's not even

Seriously? That's not even full games, just highlights.

2 weeks 5 days ago Lawyers man. Fucking lawyers

Lawyers man. Fucking lawyers man.

2 weeks 6 days ago And if he's not ready for the

And if he's not ready for the NFL, what else would he do?

2 weeks 6 days ago I don't remember that. I

I don't remember that. I only actually ever remember him lining up as "Awesome" here.

2 weeks 6 days ago Fullback? Wut?

Fullback? Wut?

2 weeks 6 days ago The one thing really against

The one thing really against us for the division crown is schedule.  MSU's cross divison games are Purdue, Illinois, and Indiana.  Nebraska's are Illinois, Purdue and PSU.  We get PSU, OSU and Ind.  So we play probably 3 of the 4 toughest legends division teams, one of which is by far the best.  MSU plays one, the worst of the top 4 (Ind), and Neb plays 3 and 4 (PSU and Ind).  Basically, our divisional games are CRAZY important this year.  Need to beat both MSU and Neb to keep a cushion.  At least NW has to play OSU and UW, so that gives a little leeway in the race against them.

2 weeks 6 days ago Both the Football Study Hall

Both the Football Study Hall and Football Outsider's models use past samples of 5 years.  Both have 3 of those 5 years being the Rich Rod years.  I think UM may be one of those 'exception' teams where the sample data doesn't do nearly as good of a job predicting performance as other team's.

2 weeks 6 days ago For those wondering, in

For those wondering, in addition to the usual returning starters, what positions, etc that most of these models use, Football Outsiders also uses a 5 year program 'rating' using all the stats from the past 5 years to predict upcoming success.  So bascially, right now that includes the seasons 2008-2012, aka the lowest of the low for the UM program.  If you look at their tables, we currently have a program efficiency rating of 29, which is one ahead of Iowa and 5 behind MSU.  The lowest point we had was after the 2010 season, when we were 50 in the nation.  What does this mean?  Not entirely sure, but eyeball tests suggest we are out performing our program efficency rating.

3 weeks 32 min ago I feel like this year sets up

I feel like this year sets up for a weird year for statistical models.  Like the QB switch, and offensive philosophy switch probably messes up a bunch of the predictive measures these models normally use.  And then we lose starters like Demens, but then again, do we really lose a starter?  Because Morgan, another starter slides over, and Ross was playing starting level minutes by the end of the year last year.  And then we lose Floyd at CB, but gain Countess back, who is an upgrade and going into the 2012 season everyone was calling him our best defender.  We are a young team for sure, but 7-5 seems crazy pessimistic to me.  2012 was one of those years where statisical models don't really grasp what went on with the team, and what will going forward.

3 weeks 20 hours ago Ah, I thought there was

Ah, I thought there was another one out there in Cali, but couldn't remember the names.  Thanks.

3 weeks 20 hours ago Yep, and like every other

Yep, and like every other major QB today as well. ESPN just had a huge fluff piece on Manziel working with the guy. Also Newton was one of his projects. Braxton Miller worked with him this winter and OSU fans were raving about his improved throwing through spring supposedly. Did Martinez work with him last off season as well, or did he work with a different QB coach?

3 weeks 21 hours ago Disagree on even that. A UM

Disagree on even that. A UM pre-med also nothing to scoff at. Hell, really any undergrad is fine as long as you do well and give the appropriate effort. My sister did her undergrad at MSU and then did her PhD in biochem at Yale. Frankly, if you plan on doing any post grad work, your undergrad becomes more irrelevant as long as you do a great job at it. Undergrad really matters if you want to take that undergrad degree straight into the work place.

3 weeks 22 hours ago Wait, Pepper's visit went

Wait, Pepper's visit went well?  Hooray!

3 weeks 23 hours ago Are we sure that Shaw tweet

Are we sure that Shaw tweet actually has to do with Peppers and UM?  I mean that tweet came weeks after Peppers tweeted that stuff about Stanford vs UM's academics.

3 weeks 1 day ago Gues we're gonna have to

Gues we're gonna have to prepare oursleves for a lot of SEC love on ESPN now.  It's going to be quite the change from their usual unbiased reporting.

3 weeks 1 day ago Eh, they were recruiting

Eh, they were recruiting pretty well before that season as well...they benefited more from USC imploding. They got some of their best players from that.

3 weeks 1 day ago Honestly, Brandon has stated

Honestly, Brandon has stated that if (when) they fill that end zone section in, that's where opponent's allotments will go.

3 weeks 1 day ago Maybe they'll be mad because

Maybe they'll be mad because their coach is on their last legs and in a worse conference?

3 weeks 1 day ago Isn't it hard for the number

Isn't it hard for the number 30 player in the nation to be a 'sleeper'.

3 weeks 1 day ago Personally, I think horses

Personally, I think horses seem much more suited to Calvinball

3 weeks 1 day ago What the hell was everybody

What the hell was everybody supposed to think?  Hood had been very up-front and vocal that ND was his favorite pretty much his entire recruitment.  Then he suddenly says "I need to stay closer to home", and listed UNC as his leader.  Were they supposed to think 'oh, gee, well even though you said UNC is your leader, we think that eventually your family is going to come around to you living in South Bend so you can attend your professed favorite school'?

3 weeks 1 day ago However UM gets

However UM gets

3 weeks 1 day ago I fee like this ND lean is

I fee like this ND lean is one of the self pepetuation things.  Someone posted that he's an ND lean, and then it kind of spread, and now everybody is saying it so it becomes the "truth".  However, I've not read from an actual insider that he's an ND lean (caveat is that I don't have subs to all the services so I don't know what everybody is saying).  The person we all trust the most on this issue is not sure what he's thinking.  The impression was that he was very high on UM earlier, but now it is not certain.  He was entertaining the southern schools seriously.  At this point, I don't think anybody except Alex really knows what he's doing.

3 weeks 1 day ago NOOOOOOO?

NOOOOOOO?

3 weeks 1 day ago He already has the top JUCO

He already has the top JUCO dual threat coming on...

3 weeks 2 days ago Ah, thank you. Had to

Ah, thank you. Had to re-read it a bit more carefully, but I caught the differences now. Great work.

3 weeks 2 days ago If I recall correctly, this

Isn't this a lot like the base coverage MSU uses? I'm not sure what their LB's do, but their safeties read the #2 and the act appropriately; either by reading run, short pass, or deep pass, and then coverage is adjusted in the secondary. I'm not exactly sure what their corners do on the reads, bit I was under the impression it's not always just drop into a deep quarter coverage. Whatever it is, It may have taken them 4 years to achieve it at a high level, but it has resulted in a very consistently good pass defense and safeties that are up in run support at appropriate times.

3 weeks 2 days ago Oh come on. Of the brain

Oh come on. Of the brain damage is such a huge deal, just get rid if the sport.

3 weeks 2 days ago I believe I read that

I believe I read that Jabrill's dad won't let Jabrill visit him in prison; doesn't want him to see it. So I guess it wound go over well in the family.

3 weeks 2 days ago Pallante wouldn't affect us

Pallante wouldn't affect us that much.  You can look up the calculations, but it's not many points that he actually contributes to our total team ranking points (basically if you take him out, we stay in the same position). 

3 weeks 2 days ago God that's terrible. The

God that's terrible. The golden antelope was better, but not by much

3 weeks 2 days ago Boom! That guy!

Boom! That guy!

3 weeks 3 days ago That seems an incredibly

That seems an incredibly optimistic list.  Of that, Peppers, McDowell, and Westphal are by far the best best best.  Watson would be, but Winovich may take is spot before Watson has the chance to visit and commit.  Hand we're still behind VT, but not out of it.  I haven't gotten the vibe Scott loves us (same with Holmes), and neither may have a spot if KJ Williams beats them to the punch.  Bars is looking less and less likely as well.  I don't think he has a ton of loyalty to UM just because of Blake.  His other brother plays for PSU, and his dad played for ND.  But if we somehow manage that haul...holy shit that would be EPIC.  But I don't think we do.

3 weeks 3 days ago Am I the only one that finds

Am I the only one that finds Roby undisciplined?  The impression I got from him, and from OSU fans, was that he never saw a route he didn't bite on.  He had a ton of pass break-ups and INTs, but I kind of got the impression that as more because the B1G had an absolute wreckage of passing offenses this year.  Dunno, maybe I'm wrong.

3 weeks 3 days ago Goddamnit. This was what got

Goddamnit. This was what got me through the off season. Why? Let people enjoy the old games.

3 weeks 3 days ago Yeah, according to a guy at

Yeah, according to a guy at ESPN, when he talked to JBB a few weeks ago or something, JBB said he was currently 6'7" and 330.

3 weeks 3 days ago Trolling?

Trolling?

3 weeks 3 days ago Ummm...yeah...those are

Ummm...yeah...those are probably the second most awesome uniforms I've ever seen.  Second only to the regular ol' home blues and winged helmet of the University of Michigan.

3 weeks 3 days ago Genius move.  What better way

Genius move.  What better way to get him to shut up about UM?

3 weeks 3 days ago This just a bad situation.

This just a bad situation. You ask a guy to express his personal beliefs (one which he has expressed openly before), and then you don't like his answer. I don't agree with him at all, but he is entitled to his opinion, and I think it would be wrong to the fire or suspend a guy based on expressing his religious beliefs when prompted on a show. Now if he starts holding anti-gay rallies or something, it starts to cross a different line.

3 weeks 3 days ago Tenative starting DT might

Tenative starting DT might not be a whole lot better...for both Thomas and the interior DL as a whole.  But who knows; maybe he'll be amazing.  Just that a move like heir-apparent MLB (although I think most people looked at him in high school and said DE all the way) to DT doesn't usually mean great things are ahead.

3 weeks 3 days ago Probably depends on what you

Probably depends on what you want.  Westphal is more a developmental corner, but if he can grow into his still growing frame, he could be truely elite.  Webb is far more refined and more near his ceiling, but it is a very high ceiling as well.  He's crazy athletic already.  I would rather have Webb because he goes to a UM pipeline and will now be playing against us every year.  But I would be more that happy with Wesphal as well.  This, of course, is contingent on us getting Peppers. If we don't, then losing Webb hurts a lot.

3 weeks 3 days ago Depends how you measure

Depends how you measure 'talent.'  You're right though that the top-3 are all very high, nationally elite recruits (Harris, McDowell, Webb).  After that you've got some good players like Marshall and Drake, and then it's more of generic three starts.  Compare that to 2011 when there wasn't really a top-50 in the nation type player, but there were 10 recruits that both UM and MSU offered before May; very deep year.  Sparty called the 2011 'one of the least talented' in they could remember probably because they didn't get many of those 10 offers.  But I thought it was a very talented year because of the depth.  I also think this is a very talented year because I'm not sure when we'll see that much solid talent again at the very high end.  Let's not be Sparty here.

3 weeks 3 days ago He's all MSU.  Can't win them

He's all MSU.  Can't win them all.  At times we benefit from it too in the state of Ohio, but sometimes kids just want to be different, or really like a school that's not the powerhouse everyone 'pegged' a big prospect to go to.  Good luck to him, he's a good prospect.

3 weeks 4 days ago But they have Noah Spence and

But they have Noah Spence and Adolphus Washington!  That's like, what, 30 tackles and 2 or 3 sacks between the two of them returning from last year! 

But seriously, they do have some great talent on the defensive side.  But a lot of it's still young.  If it blooms into the projections based on recruiting rankings, they'll have an elite D.  I think.  The one thing I can say about OSU's D even from last year, which also had really good talent (probably better than UM's raw talent) is that they play undisciplined.  That could sink the D no matter how talented they are.

3 weeks 4 days ago Obviously a big deal.  But I,

Obviously a big deal.  But I, and I'm sure many of you, just hope for the days when he could just show up the game with his boyfriend/husband, and no one would even care.

3 weeks 4 days ago When? Like today? This

When? Like today? This weekend?

3 weeks 4 days ago Yeah, I thought UM came out

Yeah, I thought UM came out pretty rosy in this. To a certain extent OSu as well considering they don't have to play Wisconsin every year now, and the other big program in their division PSU has to play UM every year now as well.

3 weeks 4 days ago I think just the opposite. I

I think just the opposite. I think it's ridiculous to think that any undefeated brand name team will be left out of the playoff no matter now easy the schedule. This 'strength of schedule' stuff is just an entire load of crap. All that matters is wins, so any team SHOULD schedule teams for wins. Humans will always have the final say, and I'll believe humans will put an undefeated ND team behind a one loss Oregon team when I see it.

3 weeks 4 days ago We'll see if it sticks.

We'll see if it sticks. Distance seemed to be a big problem for his family.

3 weeks 4 days ago Yeah. This was exactly my

Yeah. This was exactly my thought. It like they're trying to keep the biggest brands down when the B1G is already suffering a major image problem. I don't think this is a conspiracy or anything, but probably just a mis-guided attempt to get 'better' games. I only think it hurts the B1G in he end though.

3 weeks 4 days ago ESPN has a couple articles

ESPN has a couple articles up. It's in one of them.

3 weeks 4 days ago I think you completely

I think you completely mis-read the post. Delano said they will purposefully make the cross-overs so that the top teams from each division play each other more often. This sets up for the best teams to have depressed records because they will have to play artificially (not luck based) more difficult schedules. This has nothing to do with divisional alignment. The SEC does not do this. They do not purposefully schedule Bama, LSU and A&M to play UF, UGA, and SCar every year and let the middle/bottom teams get a pass.

3 weeks 4 days ago So does anybody think the

So does anybody think the "parity based scheduling" for cross-overs is stupid? The B1G already has a bad image from bowl games, and now they're purposefully going to make the best teams play each other more often than crappy team? Sure, it makes for better games, but it also increases the chances of a mid-level team slipping into a high level bowl game to which they will be over matched because the big boys are busy hurt each other's records.

3 weeks 5 days ago Huh? And Ohio is going to

Huh? And Ohio is going to have to beat us to do the same. So what? We'd pretty much have to beat them anyway in any year we would hope to win the B1G championship or our division. We'll play them every year in any alignment, so this is the best.

3 weeks 5 days ago Congrats! I'm not gonna lie,

Congrats! I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of surprised. But certainly as the measurables. If he works hard, he can make this work. Good luck!

3 weeks 5 days ago Because they need offensive

Because they need offensive weapons? Both these guys can create their own yardage which is key on a team that doesn't have a QB who can't do it got them.

3 weeks 5 days ago Congrats! Kick some ass, man

Congrats! Kick some ass, man

3 weeks 5 days ago So one first rounder. And

So one first rounder. And then...? It still doesn't change the fact that the RR years through poor coaching and terrible attrition, we have very little talent.

3 weeks 6 days ago Uhhh, yeah, I totally picked

Uhhh, yeah, I totally picked up on that...I, uh, didn't think my post needed an /s. That's it.

3 weeks 6 days ago Has it ever been more obvious

Has it ever been more obvious about the lack of talent we've had recently?

3 weeks 6 days ago I think he was talking about

I think he was talking about Uconn going 5-7

3 weeks 6 days ago I'm not worried about Denard

I'm not worried about Denard at all. This isn't even a football statement. Even if professional football doesn't work out (which I think it will), he's just the type of person that will always find success and happiness in life, no matter what he does.

3 weeks 6 days ago Man, I guess I knew this

Man, I guess I knew this going in, but watching the draft really hit home how talent deficient UM has been the last few years.

3 weeks 6 days ago You should doubt me a lot bit

You should doubt me a lot bit

3 weeks 6 days ago Well I expected him to verbal

Well I expected him to verbal on Monday, so unless he wants to disappoint me, it has to be today or tomorrow.

3 weeks 6 days ago If it's that close, why not

If it's that close, why not just go? It's not like you'll be wasting a ton of time if it's not worth it.

4 weeks 1 hour ago Well then Lloyd Brady is a

Well then Lloyd Brady is a phony.  A big, fat phony.

4 weeks 1 hour ago NOOOOOOOO...that just CAN'T

NOOOOOOOO...that just CAN'T be true.  I had planned to do my Ph.D. on space bear studies.  I had buisness cards made up and everything.

4 weeks 2 hours ago That was one of the things

That was one of the things that jumped out to me, is that he has, and I mean this almost literally, no moves in the open field.  He does that stop moving, short, choppy, step thing when a defender gets near him like he wants to juke, but really doesn't know how to.  Now, that could change with more development considering he's only been playing football for like 2 years.  I think we could really use one of those kind of receivers to pass to underneath and then be a YAC machine.  Leapers and jump-ball threats we have a plenty.

4 weeks 4 hours ago Possibly.  Basically any of

Possibly.  Basically any of the teams outside UM/OSU and the east coast teams which have literally no plausible argument to go to the West would be unhappy about being in the East with the traditional powers.  If IU went West, then Purdue would probably be unhappy.  But unlike IU and Purdue, MSU is the one with the huge inferiority complex that's convinced of their eternal greatness after two great years in the past 40.  I have an easier time thinking IU and Purdue are probably more like "whatever, it's not like we were going to be really competing for championships regularly not matter what division we were in."

4 weeks 15 hours ago Holy shit, how many linemen

Holy shit, how many linemen are going to go in the first round?

4 weeks 16 hours ago Top 10 pick gaurd.

Top 10 pick gaurd. Impressive and rare.

4 weeks 17 hours ago Ughhh

Ughhh

4 weeks 17 hours ago Eh, most still had Jockel

Eh, most still had Jockel ahead of him even after the bowl. And he wouldn't have the senior bowl. But still, three tackles in the top four? Probably two guards in the first round? He would go ahead of Johnson. Geez. But he can still be the best tackle next year, and someone next year in the top 5 will also need an LT as well.

4 weeks 17 hours ago They'll take Ansah

They'll take Ansah. It's the Lions. What else do you expect?

4 weeks 17 hours ago Jordan at three eh?

Jordan at three eh? Reeeeaaaacchhh

4 weeks 17 hours ago Man if three tackles go the

Man if three tackles go the first three...man Lewan...

4 weeks 17 hours ago Guess we just disagree. I

Guess we just disagree. I wouldn't bat an eye about not playing State every year. More fun to troll them.

4 weeks 18 hours ago I hope UM declines a

I hope UM declines a protected cross over if Sparty wants out of the division

4 weeks 23 hours ago I wouldn't every bother with

I wouldn't every bother with this exercise.  Does Hoke get Mattison in 08?  Does he get Borges, or does Parrish decide to come with him to UM instead of staying at Ball State?  Would we have gotten the renovations that were started when Rodriguez walked in and balked at the state of our facilities (remember he basically got the weight room overhauled all by himself)?  Would Hoke even have been as good, or did he need the extra two years in SDSU to refine his craft?  There was still a ton of issues with that team down the pipeline; lots of seeming additude issues.  Would it have been the disaster of 2008?  No probably not, but what happened, happened, and we cleaned a lot of bad weight off the program in the ensuing painful process.  Now the ceiling seems so high for the program; even higher than the end of the Carr years.  Let's just run with that.

4 weeks 1 day ago Even more impressive, if you

Even more impressive, if you take out all games except Florida, he shot 100%!!

4 weeks 1 day ago No

No

4 weeks 1 day ago Can't. He played

Can't. He played professionally.

4 weeks 1 day ago That's different from what he

That's different from what he said a few weeks ago. Then he said he would be comfortable committing early because he felt he had already got his teammates the exposure he was looking to get them at this point.

4 weeks 1 day ago Woohoo!! First tenet I live

Woohoo!! First tenet I live by is not to turn down free food.

4 weeks 2 days ago I found it interesting that

I found it interesting that last year, not every departing senior said "yes" to the question of whether they would go to UM again. This year, all 19. My, how fast times can change.

4 weeks 2 days ago Rabble, rabble, something

Rabble, rabble, something about about Adidas?

4 weeks 2 days ago Steve Lorenz at 247 pointed

Steve Lorenz at 247 pointed out that Ways is currently working out for ND, and he does not think it's him.

4 weeks 3 days ago I just don't understand

I just don't understand O'Brian at 13. Hoke's first year was more impressive results wise and he did that with less defensive 'talent' than PSU had last year. I suppose he did have sanctions to year with last year and s bunch of transfers. But that far ahead of both Hoke and Dantonio?

4 weeks 5 days ago I believe all three you

I believe all three you mentioned are being held out due to injury

4 weeks 5 days ago I kind of like it. And it's

I kind of like it. And it's what Hoke wants to do when we can have actual spring games.

4 weeks 6 days ago But rated at only center is

But rated at only center is the key.

4 weeks 6 days ago And by highly rated, you mean

And by highly rated, you mean consensus 3 star and too small to really play anything other than center effectively?

4 weeks 6 days ago Best offense in the B1G!

Best offense in the B1G!

4 weeks 6 days ago This would be a welcome

This would be a welcome development...

4 weeks 6 days ago Cool!  I like tunnels!  I

Cool!  I like tunnels!  I like boats!  Combining the two should be sweet!  But I imagine it's gonna be tough to hold your breath through the entire tunnel like is required in normal tunnel transit.

5 weeks 19 hours ago Not entirely sure.  Seems to

Not entirely sure.  Seems to imply first off the bench.  Unless he can unseat Stauskas for the 2 or something.

5 weeks 20 hours ago "Rod

"Rod Beard‏@detnewsRodBeard12m
Beilein: Plan is to move Glenn Robinson III to small forward and play two big men."

"Chris Balas‏ @ Balas_Wolverine 8m Glenn Robinson III will play the 3 and Mitch McGary the 4 next year. They're looking to play bigger - and it's best for the kids. "

5 weeks 20 hours ago Interesting tweets: "Rod

Interesting tweets:

"Rod Beard‏@detnewsRodBeard12m
Beilein: Plan is to move Glenn Robinson III to small forward and play two big men."

"Chris Balas‏ @ Balas_Wolverine 8m Glenn Robinson III will play the 3 and Mitch McGary the 4 next year. They're looking to play bigger - and it's best for the kids. "

 

5 weeks 22 hours ago Sooo...good, bad, neutral? 

Sooo...good, bad, neutral?  How am I supposed to feel about this?

5 weeks 23 hours ago Please have Dewey actually

Please have Dewey actually defeat Truman this time.

5 weeks 23 hours ago "Holy shit" was about my

"Holy shit" was about my reaction to his highlights.  The accelerations, speed, and suddeness with which he runs is ridiculous.  His acceleration seems more than Denard's even was.  And he's really well built to boot.  He's going to be dangerous anywhere a team puts him.  If we land him, I would like to see him get time on O as well.

5 weeks 1 day ago Please no double song punches

Please no double dong punches

5 weeks 1 day ago Oh snap

Oh snap

5 weeks 1 day ago If I remember correctly,

If I remember correctly, Hand's change of major to sports managment really started after his UM visit when he spent a bunch of time talking to some big-wig in the UM sports management program and loving it.  So plus for UM?  Someone also brought up that Florida also has a good sports management program I believe.

5 weeks 2 days ago Quick!  Someone dig up that

Quick!  Someone dig up that Mathlete analysis that shows ESPN actually is the best of the services at evaluating QBs!

5 weeks 2 days ago Ace Williams

Ace Williams

5 weeks 2 days ago Grow up

Grow up

5 weeks 3 days ago Yeah it seems pretty odd that

Yeah it seems pretty odd that Strobel was the one moved inside. We all knew one of the 5/3 tech type guys we brought in for 2012 would move inside (Wormley, Godin, Strobel), but it's strange the one seemingly least fit got reps there. However, they may feel his ultimate position is there and he's just getting early reps. When Tressel offered him, it was for the 3-tech spot by the way, so our coaches weren't the only ones thinking this.

5 weeks 3 days ago I think that's just more out

I think that's just more out of necessity. If they could, they might put Gallon in the slot where he could use that change of direction in the open field even more. We're just lucky Gallon is physical enough, and has that jumping ability to make him play taller than he is, so he can succeed has an outside receiver.

5 weeks 4 days ago Mother of God

Mother of God

5 weeks 4 days ago But even when he's in tight

But even when he's in tight double coverage, he'll let the ball get to his body if he doesn't require acrobatics for the catch. I hope he gets it sorted out, because we tend to resort our base habits. I would hate to see him revert to that body catching when he's got a college QB rocketing it into his pads, or with a legit college CB draped all over him raking it out.

5 weeks 4 days ago Well, he certainly put up

Well, he certainly put up Tecmo Bowl stats last year. He looks like he could be truly elite. That speed, natural ability to break away from coverage, and goodness, that concentration and body control even under extreme duress in a 6'4" silky smooth package. Those kind of receivers just don't grow on trees.



But I do have one concern, and it's not a tiny one (weight training can be easily addressed for his Caris Levert-ness, plus he's still a junior). He body catches everything that doesn't require him to extend. He's really going to need to work on that to take his game to the elite level.

5 weeks 5 days ago I agree. Motts applesauce is

I agree. Motts applesauce is the worst.

5 weeks 5 days ago Yep. You got it.

Yep. You got it.

5 weeks 5 days ago 'Regession to the mean'

'Regession to the mean' obviously doesn't apply to a scenario that has no stats to actually back it up. But it is a useful phrase that everybody understands to mean, that yes, weird things happen in sports and I do not expect OSU to go undefeated, as I never expect any team to go undefeated. Because more than likely they won't. I feel a one or two loss season going into the UM game is a much more reasonable expectation, even for a really good team

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