|2 hours 8 min ago||he joined Bennie Oosterbaan and Fielding Yost as the only coach||
??? Michigan tied for first place in the conference in Mo's first year. A guy named Schembechler did the same thing in his first season.
|11 hours 5 min ago||Disappointing that he's going back home||
but we're losing potential, not proven production. He caught 2 passes in 13 games, so it's not the case that our offense was already dependent on him.
We will survive.
|20 hours 20 min ago||only mens ncaa d1 player in history to play in 3 final fours.||
Way to bury the lede bigtime—the more impressive stat is that he played in three CHAMPIONSHIP games.
Whether or not other players have matched or exceeded that is another question.
|20 hours 32 min ago||My apologies... poor copy/paste.||
No apologies necessary, at least for adults. Thanks for the info.
|1 day 54 min ago||Speaking of rumor mills||
whatever awful thing that happened in EL was described as heinous and horrible and arrests were coming any minute, and the last thing I read was that the Ingham County prosecutor wasn't even ready to put out warrants and wanted more information/evidence. Seems odd that something truly heinous would not be accompanied by plenty of evidence, but maybe the prosecutor is being extra careful. Puzzling, at least to this non-attorney...
|1 day 9 hours ago||I can understand why someone who has to drive 3-4 hours to A2||
It's interesting how the cretinous toothless redneck fans of LSU or Clemson can manage the horrific, insuperable obstacles inherent in attending night games several times a year while the intelligent, educated, and highly successful fans of the Leaders and Best are unable to get past those same sort of barriers even once.
|3 days 4 hours ago||They do have high levels of mercury though,||
No, it's not a fact.
|3 days 5 hours ago||If the earth is flat, then why can't I see Cuba from Key West?||
It's the chemtrails that are obscuring the view, silly. Why do you think the gubbermint is spraying them in the first place?
|3 days 5 hours ago||friends jump on board that whole "cancer is a scam"... They died||
I recognize this is dickishly insensitive, but all I can think of when I read stories like this is that it's natural selection in action.
|3 days 6 hours ago||strawberry ice cream tastes better than vanilla||
The belief that strawberry ice cream tastes better than vanilla = the belief that there's a giant underground alien base near Dulce, New Mexico.
|3 days 7 hours ago||Flat? What a crock of lunacy||
Everybody knows that the earth is square with a roulette table in the middle of it.
|5 days 11 hours ago||As great a QB as Brady is||
watching a movie about his life outside of football would be sleep-inducing.
|6 days 5 hours ago||We'll find out soon||
that Bobby Goren has been undercover on the MSU training staff for six months, but somebody ratted him out and he's been locked in the Sparty sauna for the last 12 hours with no water. Will Eames get there in time?
|6 days 7 hours ago||run to the convenience store for a pack of Marlboro Lights||
If you're gonna take up smoking again, do it with a real cigarette.
|6 days 7 hours ago||Finebaum should eat his own head||
A penis eating itself? That might even be beyond LSUFreek's abilities to depict.
|6 days 7 hours ago||Not a done deal yet||
"The Ingham County Prosecuting Attorney's Office expects to make a decision on whether to charge three MSU football players in connection with a sexual assault investigation "in the short-term future," prosecutors said."
While it would undoubtedly ignite a firestorm of public criticism, the prosecutor's office could decide not to issue warrants if it concludes that the evidence provided by the MSU police isn't sufficient.
|1 week 1 day ago||The only autonomous component I will ever have in my car||
|1 week 1 day ago||It doesn't refer to ED or non-Ed||
It refers to size:
|1 week 1 day ago||Been with my wife for 40 years, 37 of them married||
And some stupid banty cock is giving me advice on Valentine's Day.
|1 week 1 day ago||He might have a goofy-looking delivery||
but the ball seemed to get there quickly and accurately, regardless of distance.
|1 week 1 day ago||makes you wonder if jerry sr. wasn't also abused as a child||
I've posted this before about Jerry Sr's father:
"His father Arthur served in the field of youth service programs for over 30 years, mostly as director of the Brownson House in Washington, Pennsylvania, a community recreation center for children. There, he founded the Pennsylvania Junior Wrestling program and created junior basketball, volleyball, boxing and football programs for the Brownson House."
Of course I have no evidence, but I would bet a hefty chunk of change that Jerry Sr. was himself abused either by his father or by somebody connected to his father's own youth service programs. One way abusers get access to victims is by participation in activities that children are involved in, and the activities in Arthur Sandusky's programs would have been the ideal means for contact.
|1 week 1 day ago||It's impossible for me to fathom the mindset||
that would impel an experienced adult coach to tell a teenaged gymnast under her tutelage to shut up about getting molested by a team doctor.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
|1 week 3 days ago||From a career success standpoint||
it would be much better for him to fall to the very end of the first round, or to the very end of the second round. If he gets picked early in the first or second, he's going to end up at a crappy franchise like Cleveland, SF, Chicago, Jacksonville, or the Jets.
|1 week 3 days ago||canine anal glands||
At least that was an informative thread about a topic that all dog owners eventually have to confront.
|1 week 3 days ago||God, Country, Notre Dame.||
Touchdown Jesus hasn't been so touchdowny lately.
|1 week 4 days ago||Colson Yankoff?||
At least his parents didn't name him Richard.
|1 week 5 days ago||Maybe it's just the photo angle or something||
But Hutchinson more like a swimmer or tennis player than a DE in that pic.
|1 week 5 days ago||I think these clowns somehow get off and are back on the team||
My initial reaction at seeing the post headline was the same as your cynical take, but no institution sends out a press release like that unless there is strong evidence that something very serious did happen involving MSU athletes.
|1 week 5 days ago||So let's recap||
1. A creepy pedophilish MSU doctor abusing multiple young women
The MSU "branding & communications" people are earning their pay this week.
|1 week 6 days ago||That was the nickname I gave one of my college girlfriends.||
I hope you still have all of your, uh, "appendages."
|1 week 6 days ago||He is now the AD at Liberty University in Virginia||
Well knock me over with a fucking feather. I'm shocked, shocked that there's gargantuan hypocrisy going on in this establishment.
|2 weeks 2 hours ago||The rumor mill did what rumor mills always do||
turn a mild case of the sniffles into the bubonic plague crossed with antibiotic-resistant flesh-eating disease.
|2 weeks 5 hours ago||Good lord||
They probably had to collect that truck driver's remains with a spoon and a pair of tweezers.
|2 weeks 6 hours ago||can anyone confirm the rumors||
This isn't the first time I've heard rumors about a supposed impending apocalyptic implosion of one of our rivals, and it never happens the way the rumors suggest.
But one can hope—nothing would make me happier than to see that smug, pompous hypocrite Dantonio having it all blow up in his face.
|2 weeks 6 hours ago||The white pajama pants||
The black pajama pants look better than the white, but they're still stupid. These kids aren't senior citizens who need to wear compression garments for shitty circulation and varicose veins for chrissakes—Glen Rice didn't wear long underwear while setting the NCAA record for most points in the tournament.
|2 weeks 17 hours ago||L.J. Scott has been removed from the MSU student directory||
Can anyone confirm that Scott is no longer in the directory? And does that automatically mean he's no longer enrolled?
If they lost him, that'd be a big blow—he's a damn good RB.
|2 weeks 18 hours ago||If nothing else, tonight Michigan proved||
that it'll be a force to reckon with in the NIT.
|2 weeks 23 hours ago||Looks like Coach O needs to rip off his shirt||
and challenge those HS coaches to a rasslin' match.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hard to know what to expect from this team||
They might play well enough to make it interesting down the stretch, but it also wouldn't surprise me in the least if we lose out. I wouldn't count the games at Rutgers and NEB as gimmes.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Superficially reminds me of the JOA between the Freep and News||
Same overall market and combined some portions of management and production, but there are two different readership bases, hence the two different papers.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||The MSU lockerroom should have copied MGoBlog policy||
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Even I think it's a little ridiculous sometimes.||
??? This is like Dudeness saying he really doesn't mind posbangs that much.
|2 weeks 5 days ago||Silly. Please go eat some crow.||
I'd suggest eating something a bit more malodorous.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I fully endorse brining the coaches||
Salty coaches are good coaches.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||but the pros loved his cat like quickness off the ball.||
Chris was a great All-American at Michigan, but the NFL loved his cat-like quickness so much that nobody drafted him—he went the FA route. On top of that, he never played a down in the NFL.
From his wiki profile: "After graduating from Michigan, Hutchinson signed as a free agent with the Cleveland Browns. During training camp, Hutchinson developed complications from at tetanus shot and retired from football."
|2 weeks 6 days ago||Woodson and his wine are great and all||
But the horse ovaries clinch the deal.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||If I had a fiver||
for every HOF athlete who was an outright failure as a coach or manager, I could take the family to the Chop House for the whole schmeer, including dessert and cigars downstairs afterward.
Brady doesn't need the money, he certainly doesn't need the aggravation, and the danger is that he's so famous he'd probably start coaching at a level far higher than his experience would justify. Coaching ain't playing.
He'd be much better off starting Tom Brady's GOAT QB Camp.
|3 weeks 17 hours ago||Unable to access?||
I don't have the stupid app and downvoted him with no problem. What the hell is wrong with you app-addled people?
|3 weeks 18 hours ago||JFC||
99.8% of the meaningful content on MGoBlog consists of words on a screen. Needing a goddamn app to read them is like needing a positronic robot to wipe your ass.
|3 weeks 20 hours ago||We're on the same wavelength||
But I I could have sworn the Phidarians were in a Tom Baker-era Dr. Who episode.
|3 weeks 23 hours ago||I don't get it||
I have no trouble whatsoever with MGoBlog on my phone without an app. Everything that's valuable and viewable on my laptop is there on my phone too.
|3 weeks 23 hours ago||Hot boxing...||
is that something like a Cleveland Steamer?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||You turn into Don more and more every day.||
Hey now, I never ever said "blind homer slappy moron" or "group-think, happy thoughts."
What I said was "brain-dead Harbaugh idolatry."
|3 weeks 1 day ago||This obsession with balls is completely nuts||
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I didn't know who the Sklar brothers were||
Lots of people seem to think they're funny. I have no idea why.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||The fact that so many here didn't get the snark initially||
is a sign of how awful the hockey season has been in reality, and where it appears to be headed at the moment.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||If we end up getting Solomon||
It would be like going out to a quick 17-0 lead, then turning the ball over several times en route to falling behind 56-17, then mounting a miraculous comeback to win by a FG as time expires.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||At first I was all WTF? then I realized it was all snark||
But I was fooled for about 5 seconds.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||and then are surprised when it doesn't happen.||
|3 weeks 2 days ago||If his situation is resolved in positive manner, Martin will sit||
That's exactly what I said, just phrased differently.
FWIW, Webb just opined that he expects Black to see playing time in 2017. As for Collins, I'm skeptical that the staff would expend so much effort on a skill position guy from a difficult-to-recruit region and then tell him he's going to sit when he gets here.
Regardless, this question of who redshirts is a good problem to have.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Martin will probably redshirt. As will Black or Collins.||
So you think that one of the most sought-after WR recruits in the country is going to pass up offers from Georgia or Alabama and come north to sit on the bench in Ann Arbor?
Unless Grant Perry's situation is resolved in an unexpectedly positive way, Oliver isn't sitting his freshman year, either.
|3 weeks 2 days ago||Martin and Iffy yes||
The rest no.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Beilein's team's need to shoot well from distance to win games.||
The bizarre thing about Beilein's teams over the years is that although his offenses have generally been predicated on abundant threes, time after time after time his supposedly ace shooters go stone cold from outside the arc.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Try it sometime.||
Nowhere in my comment did I suggest WD shouldn't have posted this, I didn't suggest other readers should ignore it, and if you care to look, I haven't negged it, either. In fact, I completely agree with your basic premise of "if you're not interested, don't read it."
I was simply commenting on the rationale for needing updates that quickly.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||"Martin, who had just committed."||
Somebody's jumping the gun...there's no confirmation of this assertion anywhere. Not MLive, not MGoBlog, not Scout. I expect Martin to commit soon, but if he has already he's keeping quiet about it so far.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||If recruiting info was valuable like inside stock market tips||
I could understand the desire to obtain second-by-second updates. But it's not.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Don't think it's a new meaning as much as a new name's needed||
|3 weeks 4 days ago||There are probably 3 people on the board who will understand thi||
A Six Million Dollar fine for pot in Ohio?
|3 weeks 4 days ago||We REALLY don't want you here.||
WOTS is that he used the wrong salad fork and talked with his mouth full. You're never getting into the Circle of Trust with that kind of behavior.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||May have to return his Christmas bonus.||
It's kinda hard to return a tattoo.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||The MGoBlue list includes all Super Bowl appearances per player||
So the discrepancy doesn't reside there.
Eh, just checked the MGoBlue list again—it lists John Rowser as having played for the Packers in Super Bowl I, which was played in January, 1967. The problem is that Rowser wasn't even drafted until March 1967; he played in Super Bowl II. Given that kind of easy-to-avoid mistake, maybe the MGoBlue website isn't accurate to begin with.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Maybe Meyer was trying to process him||
But the kid wouldn't take the hint so they gave him a bag of dope and then called the Columbus cops.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Something's off with those numbers||
MGoBlue has a list of former Wolverines on Super Bowl rosters, and I've counted it twice—the total only comes to 98. And several of those listed were not players, but coaches, including Harbaugh.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||This seems really stupid to me||
Hard to believe that LT's alumni base is unable/unwilling to contribute money to the school just because it doesn't have a football team.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I thought pro wrestling was ridiculous even when I was a kid||
but I had a friend who loved it so we went down to old Cobo Arena in downtown Detroit in 1969 or so to see The Sheik. I don't remember who he fought, and I was more entertained by the crowd than by the wrestling anyhow—there were several little old ladies in ringside seats who were getting so agitated by the action that they kept trying to climb into the ring. I've always assumed they were paid for their performances, but it was nuts regardless.
This was for a later confrontation between Bobo Brazil and The Sheik:
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Don't forget Leaping Larry Chene|
|3 weeks 5 days ago||They aren't allowed to hit over the head with chairs anymore.||
Well then the terrorists have won. Our new President should fix that pronto.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Somebody will get hit over the head with a folding chair||
And somebody else will stomp the canvas really hard with his foot as he delivers a blow to his opponent's neck.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Emotionally can't handle a recruiting loss, so assume a loss||
I'd really love Collins, Solomon, and Gay to commit to Michigan. At best I think we get one of the three, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if we don't get any. And that's primarily because historically it's been very difficult to pull elite-level talent out of AL, MS, and GA up to Michigan.
I can't speak for other people here, but I'll lose the same amount of sleep if they don't commit to Michigan that I did when Da'Shawn Hand chose Alabama: zero. I've been following Michigan football and its recruiting for far too long to get wigged out over the choices of a small handful of 18-year olds in any given year. As for 2017, we've got a damn good class already, and getting any of the three would be icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||national analysts... must be delusional as well||
Not so very long ago some national analysts were projecting another target to Michigan, too. I think it was some running back.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||"Academics matters more to me than football,"||
Welp, Alabama it is then.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||If you're recruiting Ohio you don't need to overcome weather||
My only reservation about recruiting elite-level kids in the south is if it's at the expense of going after slightly lower-rated kids up in the midwest who are far more likely to commit. I don't know if Harbaugh is actually doing that, but it's somewhat of a gamble in the short term, especially if you need to fill certain needs right now as opposed to three years in the future.
There's no substitute for winning the big games, though. That will help our recruiting efforts bigtime.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Imagine being a new astronaut and watching this||
"Shortly after being chosen for the program in the spring of 1959, the Mercury astronauts were taken to watch the second D-series Atlas test, which exploded a minute into launch. This was the fifth straight complete or partial Atlas failure and the booster was at this point nowhere near reliable enough to carry a nuclear warhead or an unmanned satellite, let alone a human passenger.
Plans to man-rate Atlas were effectively still on the drawing board and Convair estimated that 75% reliability would be achieved by early 1961 and 85% reliability by the end of the year."
Brass balls indeed.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Not only was White the first American to spacewalk||
but that Gemini 4 flight had an all-Michigan crew, with White sharing that tiny Gemini capsule with Jim McDivitt, BSE '59. McDivitt graduated first in his class, FWIW.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||While the record shows that going after SEC kids is a gamble||
I disagree that it's a total waste of time, at least for Harbaugh and his staff. Recruiting is heavily influenced by relationships, both with the kids and their coaches. The effort spent on recruiting Solomon or Gay may not pay off with Aubrey or Willie, but it might with other kids from their schools or communities a few years down the line.
Recruiting is like agriculture or business development: you have to plant the seeds first.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Sam used his "Michigan still has a puncher's chance" line||
which, if past experience is any guide, translates to "if he chose Michigan, it would be a surprise."
|3 weeks 5 days ago||for some reason nobody believed him.||
Humans have an amazing ability to believe only the things they want to believe, and to reject out of hand anything that suggests that they might be wrong.
At least Jim got to ride a Go-Kart.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||damn what I would give to be 37 again.||
Hell, 57 looks pretty damn good to me right now.
Appreciate your youth, kids. From 30 on, it's accelerating decrepitude.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||That's quite the extrapolation||
And you don't think characterizing the recruiting of one player to IU as "worrisome" when measured against the entire body of Frey's work at IU and Michigan is also an "extrapolation?"
I used to think I was a pessimist, but when it comes to seeing dark clouds on sunny days, there are people here who make me look like a crazy, wild-eyed optimist.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Just because I don't like a players game I'm being verbally||
Your toasts at wedding banquets must be awesome—"I'd normally propose a toast to the bride and groom on this happy day, but I gotta tell you, she's just not the quality of bride you deserve. I don't like her game at all."
A guy has just affirmed his commitment to the football program that all of us here support and root for—not to mention the institution that many of us graduated from—and all you can muster is a sneering, snide swipe at his "quality." Sigh.
And all before you've seen him play two seconds for Michigan.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||doesn't seem to be the quality of player to hold a scholarship||
Kurt Taylor is strong enough to rip your arms out of your sockets and beat you unconscious with them. I'd enjoy watching that, but he doesn't seem the quality of person to actually do that.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||"all his "sources" are just his hopes and dreams."||
All my sources say you're an ignorant dumbfuck.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||D'Antonini's plane||
and it's being piloted by Eric Cartman.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||maybe mom is there to comfort you???||
The mother of my HS GF sometimes chased me around their house trying to hug me after she'd had a snootful. She never did it when the dad was around, oddly enough.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||It's a bit worrisome that he was their best option||
You've hit the nail on the head—Frey's recruiting chops are vastly overrated, and probably so are his coaching chops. This was a terrible move by Harbaugh, and they should all be fired immediately.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||That face is about as emotionless as it gets.||
Unenthusiasm Known to Mankind
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Is your last sentence really necessary?||
Completely agree with you. No way was J.C. 6'-9" and 380.
|4 weeks 58 min ago||Teddy Greenstein = Michael Rosenberg =||
somebody I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire.
|4 weeks 3 hours ago||FWIW||
Webb said this morning that going after Tufele is "ice skating up a hill" which is Sam-speak for "It ain't happening."
It's either Utah or USC.
|4 weeks 9 hours ago||The Swarm?||
|4 weeks 17 hours ago||Maybe I'm reading too much into a politely bland comment||
But to me "thanks for coming by!" = "Thanks but no thanks."
|4 weeks 1 day ago||If we manage to pull either Gay or Solomon||
That'll be a significant achievement, given how hard it is to get top-level recruits out of GA or MS. Getting both would be a huge coup.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Think Drevno is going to be gone after next season.||
If he's looking for a HC job, then all the more reason to bring Frey onto the staff.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Canada was going to be making $1.5M/year.||
I knew Canada's economy was smaller than ours but dang, that's hardly enough to afford some TimBits and a six of Labatts.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||"I know that some kids have received some extra on the side,"||
How do you "know" this? Who told you? What did they allegedly receive?
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Let's be even more blunt||
BlueLava009 is alleging that Jim Harbaugh is knowingly sanctioning or condoning the payment of substantial sums of money to Michigan recruits.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||then why are so many OSU players not from Ohio?||
A quick scan of OSU's roster shows this breakdown:
75 players from Ohio, MI, PA, and other midwest states, and 10 players from MD, NJ, and NY, which are now within the BIG footprint
27 are from states truly outside the conference footprint; the largest portion of these are Floridians.
A quick scan of Michigan's roster shows this breakdown:
80 players from MI, Ohio, PA, and other midwest states, and 16 players from MD, NJ, MA and NY, which are now within the BIG footprint
35 are from states truly outside the conference footprint.
Obviously not all of these playes are on scholarship on either squad, but I did not try to determine which ones. I would bet that a larger percentage of kids from outside the region are on scholarship than are those in the MI/Ohio/midwest group, but that's totally a guess.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Well, considering you have a weakness for crippled broken things||
a fourth year of RR would have been right up your alley.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Hope we get him||
Sounds like the proverbial diamond in the rough stuff.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Rich Rodriguez||
deserved a fourth year.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Webb also essentially said this morning that||
the Michigan staff is no longer actively trying to flip Isaiah Wilson from Georgia. He also didn't sound particularly optimistic about Willie Gay, although he didn't say anything specific other than he couldn't say anything one way or the other about the reports Gay has already committed to LSU.
However, he was still surprisingly upbeat about Nico, and was also optimistic about Oliver Martin. He refuted the notion that the staff is going hard after Martin because Nico is a lost cause.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Actually, the BIG ADs were proven right in 1973||
by the fact that OSU administered a 42-21 beatdown of USC, something Michigan hasn't come close to doing since January 1, 1948.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Something seems wrong.||
Doesn't look any worse than Harbaugh's wonky left arm. I still can't figure out where his elbow is.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Whether or not you're his latest alias,||
WTF? I've been here under the same name since 6/30/2008, and that's it.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I think the answer is E||
E. A birth control product. "Keep those tadpoles at bay with Sper-Gon®"
|4 weeks 2 days ago||if they think Tom's career is the same playing for the Browns||
If it had been Brady's misfortune to have been drafted by the Lions, he would have been out of the league for a decade already.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||The Cleveland Browns had a chance to draft him||
but fortunately for Brady they chose Spergon Wynne instead.
What's a Spergon?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||This is very likely my last day on the blog.||
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Probably just wanted to stay in Florida.||
Don't know why it's so difficult for people to wrap their heads around the fact that recruiting kids from the deep south is different from recruiting in Ohio and PA and Illinois. The fact that such a huge percentage of the ESPN/247/Scout/Rivals lists of the top 300 kids come from the south highlights the challenge facing all teams up north, not just Michigan.
What's obvious in the threads that come up from time to time is how incredibly well-traveled MGoBloggers are overall. A large percentage of you have lived in or gone to school or heavily visited locales from Bangkok to Baja to Bangor to Bialystock, and a decent percentage travel widely for your jobs. The idea of going to school a thousand miles away from your home is nothing to you. That's not the case for most of the kids being recruited in the south—their families tend to be less wealthy, less traveled, and less accustomed to living far from home. It's far more likely to be a much bigger deal to them to leave Florida for Michigan than it is for us.
That's why I never consider a kid from the south to be a sure thing—regardless of what he or his family or Lorenz or Webb or Wiltfong say—until he's actually signed his LOI.
What I'm curious about is whether Harbaugh and staff weigh their estimate of the quality of talent versus the likelihood of a commit. In other words, what's the best strategy—focusing your efforts on guys higher on the list but lower in likelihood of coming to Ann Arbor, or guys a bit lower on the totem pole but much more likely to return the recruiting investment?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||If you're looking for in-state help at OT late in the cycle||
Are there guys elsewhere in the upper midwest that are worth going after in terms of value and poachability?
|4 weeks 2 days ago||After reading this thread, there's only two things to do||
1. Fire Harbaugh
2. Slit my wrists.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Trending away because we were approaching the NCAA limit||
for hyphenated names.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Anybody who thinks the coaches hadn't already factored this in||
is underestimating them substantially.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||A Michigan cup replete with an Arby's logo||
How Brandonesque can you get?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||"Pickin' and grinnin'"||
sounds like a description of a six-year old eating his snot behind his momma's back at church.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||someone may be on board to drop the bombshell on them||
I have no doubt that a wide number of programs across the country, especially those in the south, have been engaging in blatantly illegal recruiting practices for decades. To believe otherwise requires Happy Valley levels of gullible denial.
However, the chances that anybody—connected to Michigan or not—is going to drop a meangingful bomb on Georgia or Ole Miss are extremely slim. Simply leveling accusations will have little practical lasting value. The NCAA has proven beyond the shadow of doubt that it’s fundamentally disinterested in pursuing financial and academic wrongdoing by major programs, and it’s clear to the entirety of the college athletic world that all a school has to do to escape damaging sanctions is to refuse to cooperate and not admit to any major infractions. Certainly you're never going to shame a southern program into playing by the rules; to them, if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'.
The other problem in dropping an effective bomb is that doing so requires cooperation and evidence provided by those who’ve been offered and/or received impermissible inducements. There’s little or no benefit in doing so—these aren’t criminal justice proceedings where cooperation and testimony can result in reduced charges being filed—and the families of all recruits understand that testifying or giving evidence against a program would immediately subject them to unbelievable amounts of abuse in social media, up to and including death threats. Why would any recruit willingly put himself and his family in that situation, especially since they're not legally compelled to say squat to anybody?
The only exception would be if there were specifically criminal actions taking place on the part of the bagmen or recruits or university employees. What brought down Michigan’s basketball program wasn't merely the fact that Ed Martin was providing money to Michigan players—it was the fact that Martin was being investigated by the Feds for running an illegal gambling operation in Ford plants and laundering his proceeds by giving the money to young Detroit-area athletes. That criminal investigation gave the authorities the ability to subpeona Michigan players and compel their testimony, which is something the NCAA cannot do.
I've been reading assertions that the NCAA will be dropping the bomb on Ole Miss for quite a while now, but I'll believe it when it happens.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||It's Puff Puff Pass...not Puff Puff Post||
Nothing surpasses recruiting when it comes to willfully exuberant delusions. Thinking Wilson may flip = thinking Harris will now flip.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||"watch Georgia get burned at the stake though."||
What in hell are you babbling about? Are you saying that Wilson is a pyromaniac?
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You can equate the global warming hysteria to Prohibition||
Since it's just hysteria you should invest in Florida coastal real estate. You can get good prices for it.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Bo's Bowl woes were, at least in part, due to||
the fact that, more often than not, USC had better talent than we did.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Michigan and OSU should have had a rematch in the NC game.||
Yep, we were so deserving to be in the NC game that we proved it by getting our asses handed to us by USC in the Rose Bowl.
Regardless, the game with OSU should always be the last game.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||But if you are wavering, stay the f@$k out.||
Yet you've admitted here at MGoBlog that you obtained a degree at another institution besides Michigan. Why did you waver in your devotion to the Michigan Difference?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I don't want anyone who has a tough time decideing||
So you don't want Rashan Gary then.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||that the academic angle is important to him||
Well that's the kiss of death for Michigan. Once you hear "academics are important to _____" you know a commitment to the University of Someplace Else is imminent.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Are you guys sure it isn't||
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I like my coffee like I like my women||
Strong but not bitter.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||It's a Buy 1, Get 1 Free deal||
from Fair Life milk. The delay is due to difficulty in getting the right milk moustache on Harbaugh for the publicity photos.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Fake?||
Are you seriously unaware of her long-standing preferences in apparel? Of her past modeling history?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||H.L. Mencken was smug and condescending,||
and also a notorious bigot and racist. That didn't mean he didn't have some spot-on observations to make about American society a century ago, though.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||But now we get to see nipples on display in the White House||
so it's all good, right?
|4 weeks 5 days ago||This thread is getting nuked anyhow, so here goes||
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” —H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
|4 weeks 5 days ago||though much of his molding was done under Carr||
Molk's only year under Carr was his redshirt in 2007. Molk spent three years under Frey—starting every game in 2008 and 2010 and four in 2009—and then his senior season under Funk.
I'd say most of his molding was under Frey.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||15-22 sucked, but if we're going to point fingers||
we'd first have to point at RR's defensive assistants, especially Greg Robinson. It's not like the rumor is Harbaugh bringing Tony Gibson onto the staff.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Sam's tease about breaking news felt related to whatever that is||
At first I thought it might be related to signing of the stars because he said the breaking news was "fun," which I inferred as meaning it wasn't recruiting related. I wouldn't think it would apply to additions to the coaching staff, but then out of nowhere they started talking about how Harbaugh doesn't have to choose a RB to coach the running backs.
Maybe it's a special deal on Scout membership.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||it's Frey to get to know more about Wilsons offense.||
|4 weeks 5 days ago||About 40 minutes ago Webb said "breaking news" was coming||
but a few minutes later said "red tape" was preventing his being able to announce it just yet.
However, both Ira and Sam just a couple minutes ago were talking about Harbaugh won't necessarily be restricted to hiring a former RB to coach the running backs, which lends credence to the twittering about Frey being hired.
I don't have any idea about whether Frey will be good or bad at coaching RBs, but he's a damn good OL coach. The intriguing thing is that hiring Frey would provide a ready OL coach on staff should Drevno leave.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Yes, it's very much a thing|
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Anybody who's truly surprised that Newsome is unlikely to play||
has a serious case of irrational exuberance that has lasted far longer than four hours and should seek medical attention immediately.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||What in the name of Billy Bob's goat is sneaky athleticism.||
It's a white guy who's faster than you expect.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Great article||
but it was written by Chase Goodbread.
Sounds like a name of a food porn actor.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||According to the UM roster database||
In the long, glorious history of Michigan football, there has been exactly one other player named Oliver—Oliver Johnson, OLB, '77-'80, Detroit MI
|4 weeks 6 days ago||"Please, please, please stop tweeting at recruits."||
You might as well beg people to stop doing meth and screwing their livestock. Totally futile, unfortunately.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||"Went to order milk but they were out."||
A restaurant out of milk is like a bar out of beer. Somebody needs to be fired.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||We should be hesitant about taking a low level recruit||
Totally agree. Look at this pathetic NFL roster listing all their players from nothing programs. It goes without saying that you're not drafting 4- and 5-star players out of Duke, CSU, Sacrameno State, La Tech, or Georgia Southern.
How the Broncos managed to win the Super Bowl with this collection of 2- and 3-star losers is mind-boggling.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Great personal insight and wisdom from Burton||
about aging and coaching. A certain hockey coach would have done well to have the same self-reflection.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||"Harbaugh is determined to field a slow, plodding offense||
with a mediocre offensive line and a QB who can't run."
You're a pathetic knucklehead.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||One thing we know for sure||
If first-year John Navarre had been our QB in 2016, you would be here telling us he sucked and should never play again for Michigan. You're not fit to use his name—John Navarre has more class than you can dream of.
But to the topic at hand, which is your scorching hot take on Jim Harbaugh's coaching ineptitude, you should write a letter to Warde Manuel demanding Harbaugh's immediate dismissal. It's UNACCEPTABLE for Michigan to get outcoached by famous loser Kirk Ferentz.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Premature celebration|
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Who the hell is Isaiah Hole||
I thought that was some hiphop guy.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Wheatley did have an extension offer on the table||
I was the one who asked Sam the question this morning about whether Wheatley had gotten an offer to stay. Seems like a pretty important detail to me.
Now I suppose a new offer could be structured so as to be an insult that Wheatley would be sure to reject, but that strikes me as Machiavellian in a way that Harbaugh isn't. He's far too direct and simple.
Sam has been saying for two years that we need to get used to staff departures, because the guys Harbaugh is hiring are ambitious. In Wheatley's case, he wants to be a head coach, and Webb's view is that Wheatley made the decision that moving to the Jags would get him closer to that than staying on as RB coach at Michigan. As far as Fisch goes, it was an article of faith around here going back to 2015 that Jedd would be one of the first assistants to leave, and that his gig here was strictly a short-term thing. Blowing his departure up into something that Harbaugh engineered sounds like a typical hot take from an internet gasbag.
It would hardly be unusual for there to be disagreements between head coaches and their assistants—Woody and Bo threw chairs at each other during one meeting, for chrissakes—so I would never say that it's impossible there were differences of opinion between Wheatley, Drevno, and Harbaugh. I'm never going to take Henson's word as gospel, though.
|5 weeks 4 hours ago||A little good news and people just hate it.||
If Solomon's mom said "my boy is going to Michigan or he's not going anywhere," that would be news. If his HS coach said he's coming to Michigan, that would be news. If Solomon committed to Michigan, that would be "news."
I don't call some recruiting guy's opinion "news."
|5 weeks 4 hours ago||sit exactly like that all day.||
And advertise to the world that you have a teensy little pecker like that chimp does?
|5 weeks 4 hours ago||Funny how time changes things||
Back in the mid-to-late-90s, Doug Karsch was the afternoon guy on WTKA, and among the regular cast of characters calling in was a guy Karsch called Crazy Jay, and he had good reason to call him that. I'm pretty sure Crazy Jay got banned a couple of times.
Now he's no longer Crazy Jay but the Beav.
|5 weeks 8 hours ago||where mom or dad liking a school played a big part in the choice||
That's why I used the word determinative. Playing a big part is probably normal for the vast majority of kids, but how many elite-level kids commit to a school they don't want because that's where their parents want them to go to? Damn few, I'd bet.
|5 weeks 10 hours ago||Staff is like a Michigan hockey roster||
They come, get a bump up, and they go.
|5 weeks 11 hours ago||What Mom thinks doesn't really matter||
If what Mom thinks was the determinative factor, then Malik McDowell and Najee Harris would have committed to Michigan.
"His mother really likes Michigan" is just an updated form of "Academics are really important."
|5 weeks 1 day ago||You still follow Sam Webb ? Oh Ok.||
I listen to Sam in the morning for a variety of reasons, among them his recruiting contacts and information. I never go on twitter unless somebody posts a link here. I don't care about the predictions stuff, even though he's right far more often than he's wrong.
If you prefer another source of U-M-oriented information, fine... I'm not among those negging you, either. Some people like Sam, others Lorenz... it's all good as far as I'm concerned.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||very hard to figure as these schools are nothing alike||
which should drive home the sad fact that for many top-level recruits, "135 years of integrity and academic excellence" aren't any more important than other factors, like playing time, how strong the program is at their position, and perceptions about how quickly they can get into the NFL. In other words, attending college is more or less like going to a trade school.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||say let's just define that as "weather."||
Great analogy. Weather and recruiting are inherently chaotic systems that are impossible to predict with 100% accuracy, especially because random and unforseeable perturbations can result in significant departures from initial trends.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Have we had guys that short since Mark Mesner?||
FWIW, the info on Messner at the UM football section of the Bentley Library website lists Messner as 6'-3"
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Solomon looks somewhat bemused in that photo||
like he doesn't know what to make of all these strange people in his house.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||indicates that Michigan feels that Nico is out.||
Lest anyone conclude otherwise from the OP, I don't think Webb is saying that interest in Martin means Nico is gone; to the contrary, he said this morning that we're still in really good shape with him.
Myself, I've never counted Collins in the class anyhow, and since we've already got DJP and Black, I'd be happy with a glue-fingered slot who catches everything thrown in his direction.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||a step up, are correct... It's the freaking NFL here.||
Huh...I could have sworn that the MGoBlog theology was that the NFL is not a step up from college, hence Harbaugh's move to Ann Arbor.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Wonderful thread for RCMB and 11Warriors||
Not only is the OP's basic assumption exactly the opposite of what's actually the case, but others are suggesting that Mattison is one step away from the ICU and at the end of his coaching career.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||"get some deep rotation in your GI tract"||
The polite term for the technician trying to untangle the colonoscopy snake in the middle of the procedure.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Why would a PSU legacy decommit||
from a Big Ten champion coached by a staff whose wives are all real hot?
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Make helmets leather again and do away with facemasks||
You lead with your head, you're going to pay a steep price right on your face.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Red is 77 years old and still coaching||
That's nuts. By comparison, Bo stepped down at the age of 60.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This points out how wise Bo was||
Schembechler voluntarily stepped down after the '89 season, and aside from getting fucked yet again by the refs in the Rose Bowl, it was a damn good year. We were conference champs and went into the RB ranked #3. Nobody would have tried to force Bo out, but he was smart enough to know that time takes its toll on the body and the mind, and just as important, he wanted to give Gary a chance to run the program himself.
Red should have done the same thing five years ago—turn the reins over to Mel, who had coached faithfully by his side for years.
My armchair guess is that it's Red's ego—like it was with Bowden and Paterno—that is screwing things up. These men are so used to being the alpha dog in charge that it's unthinkable to them to step aside and yield all that power. Stepping aside is psychologically feared as a tacit admission that you're old and your productive life is over. I can sympathize with those fears, but it's far worse to tarnish what you've built.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||King might have been the leader of the movement||
but the success of the civil rights movement was dependent on the refusal by many thousands of protestors of all races to use violence as a response to the provocations they were subjected to by white racists.
I don't think I could have managed to control my own anger in this sort of situation.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||A local connection to MLK|
|5 weeks 2 days ago||You seem to be obsessed with eating feces||
There are professionals who can help you conquer coprophagia.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||This name might be a bit before your time, WD||
but don't forget the immortal Kelly Baraka.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'll see your bone apple teat||
and raise you a Meaty Urologist.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Win the game||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I thought we had better appreciation threads||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||"Michigan is still involved" = "she has a nice personality."||
Considering the state of the Michigan program right now, beating out Kentucky and Duke for Bamba would be one of the biggest recruiting upsets of the decade.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||I'd say our chances are better than Jim Carrey in Dumb & Dumber.||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||cannot conceive of a reason short of psychology||
It's not just MGoBlog. Even the comments sections for the NYT or WaPo are littered with lunatics and ignoramuses, and so are the ones for the science blogs and websites that have them.
The internet is flypaper for morons.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Lions vs the 49ers was in that '57 championship season||
At the time the Lions and the 49ers were both in the Western Conference, so they never faced the 49ers in an NFL championship. You're correct that it was their last postseason road win. Per wikipedia:
Detroit tied with the San Francisco 49ers (8–4) for the conference title, which required a tiebreaker playoff game. Played at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco on December 22, the 49ers entered the game as three point favorites. Down by twenty points in the third quarter, Detroit rallied with a 24–0 run to win 31–27.
The Lions then went on to cream the Browns 59-14 the next week for their last NFL championship.
Sixty years and counting.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||It's hard to imagine||
In the '50s the Browns played in 7 NFL Championship games and the Lions played in 4, with all of those against the Browns.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||The Lions are virgins... always have been||
|5 weeks 2 days ago||At first I thought this was a post about||
better appreciation threads on MGoBlog.
|5 weeks 2 days ago||Rooting for GB and KC||
Not a Packers fan, but I despise the Cowboys.
Always have been a Chiefs fan since Hank Stram's days.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Assistant coaches leaving is a good thing.||
I agree that in the abstract it means they're coveted by other programs and franchises, but in the abstract staff stability is valuable too. At what point does constant staff turnover become a revolving door indicative of something less positive?
In just two seasons we've lost a well-regarded ST coach, a passing game coordinator, our RB coach appears to be out the door before long, and our OC appears to have a desire to move on. There might be positive individual reasons each of these things is happening, but it's also very easy for our recruiting adversaries to spin it into a narrative of Harbaugh not being good to work for.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Why is calling the Duke shithead a woman an insult to him?||
Do you really need an explanation of why calling a player a woman in the context of the tremendously macho world of big time men's basketball is an insult?
|5 weeks 3 days ago||he'd never make it thru a game with a full set of teeth||
It's hard to imagine him trying that shit with Howard, Rose, Webber, King, or Jackson, isn't it?
|5 weeks 3 days ago||spreading different rumors to different people to see||
I can envision Meyer or Saban doing that, but I don't think Harbaugh is that Machiavellian. He's not a complicated guy—what you see on the surface is who he is.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Since 1920, ISU is a coaching graveyard||
Only one Iowa State coach in that time span has finished his ISU career over .500—Earle Bruce.
But as bad as ISU has been, over the last 20 seasons the Cyclones are 10-10 against Iowa.
Cyclones coach Matt Campbell has an interesting background. According to his wiki profile, he has turned down opportunities to coach on the NE Patriots and for Urban Meyer at OSU.
He also played for and coached under now-retired Mount Union coach Larry Kehres, who has these accomplishments under his belt:
• Kehres retired after the 2012 season with a record of 332–24–3
|5 weeks 3 days ago||The track was closed off in 71 or 72 because it was unsafe.||
I was a freshman in '71/72 and I'm pretty sure I ran on the Waterman track into my soph year in '72-73. I don't recall any soft spots in the track boards, but it was certainly springy as hell. The banking on the curves was really steep but that made taking the turns interesting.
The lines going into and out of Waterman during registration were nuts. It really put a premium on getting there early.