|17 weeks 6 days ago||Iowa should make a run at Stoops||
I know they're on the hook for a ton of money to Ferentz, but Stoops would be a huge hire and would raise the profile of the program tremendously. For Stoops it would be a return to his alma mater and would put him in a job that is probably less stressful than OU in a very winnable BIG west division.
|19 weeks 15 hours ago||some of my favorite potent potable||
drunk out of my 1985 Fiesta Bowl Champions glass.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||No TD drive?||
Not that i want you to subject yourself to more torture, but why didn't you chart the one TD drive? Given how rare that occurance has been recently against MSU, it might be important to document it for posterity.
|26 weeks 5 days ago||Longest punt in Rose Bowl history||
and probably the best former Michigan player to come from Wyoming (thermopolis, IIRC)
RIP, Mr. Bracken, condolences to his family and friends.
|26 weeks 6 days ago||Did you differentiate between winning percentage at FBS||
and winning percentage at FCS or lower levels? If not, what's to stop you from rating that Arkansas HS head coach who's become famous for never punting as being more capable of success than Hermann or Narduzzi?
Look Stitt might have some great ideas and be a brilliant OC someday, but there is no comparison between coaching in D II, with partial scholarships, and players who have no pro aspirations and coaching major college football. He would be the least qualified coach we've ever hired, and we would become a laughing stock if we hired him. Can you think of one coach in the past that went straight from D II to a power conference team? The only two that I can think of that are even close to comparable are Brian Kelly going from GVSU to CMU, and Kelly was FAR more successful at Grand Valley than Stitt has been at CSM, and he was local (i.e. knew the local HS coaches), and Gerry Faust going from Moeller HS in Cinncy to Notre Dame in the early 80s, and that was pretty much a disaster.
Also, why do you need to find ways to not rate Les Miles so high? If you put your finger on the scale to influence the process to get the result you want, it's not much of an objective analysis is it?
Despite my quibbles, i like the idea of trying to quantify the pluses and minuses of every candidate.
|27 weeks 1 day ago||The first top 4 will be||
Based on games so far, I think it should be:
Cmte will never pick three SEC teams, even though I think the top 4 SEC west teams would beat just about everybody else in the country on a neutral field.
|27 weeks 5 days ago||They have to get bodies in front of the BU goalie||
stay out of the penalty box, be solid ont he penalty kill, take advantage of your power play opportunities...
Oh, you meant that other game.
|30 weeks 1 day ago||At least the coaches||
didn't put him back in the game with a broken clavicle.
|31 weeks 21 hours ago||And the 8th one is a doctor (Ryder Diggs)||
She might have some insight into the proper actions for the training staff. If it's true that Brandon tried to coerce the MDs on staff to alter their versions of the incident, that will hit home with her.
|31 weeks 1 day ago||Are you implying||
some sort of attempted cover-up?
|31 weeks 1 day ago||I think this might be the best thing||
that Brian has written since "Eleven Swans". Both posts almost perfectly described what many of us were feeling: Eleven Swans the sorrow at Bo's passing, this post the rage at the way the Shane Morris concussion was / is being handled. This isn't about losing football games (that sucks, but happens), it's about putting forth the extra effort to make sure your "sons" are safe. Educating your self about the signs of concussions, being aware and organized enough on the sidelines to be able to put in place what you've learned, and having the persepctive that saving a timeout just doesn't matter when it comes to the health of 19 year old boys whose parents have entrusted you to care for them. It's about not being so full of yourself that you can't admit that you, or the coach you hired, made a mistake. It's about respecting the fans, players, and players' families enough to not lie to them or think that they can't see what everyone over the age of 5 can see.
I'll vote for Brian for regent. In fact, I already have. I make it a point every election, if i don't know enough about the candidates for lower offices to write-in someone who I do know. For each of the last two elections, I've written Brian in as a candidate for regent. Happy to do it again.
|32 weeks 3 days ago||And not a minute longer||
interim coaches are very bad idea. Barring a miracle or two, keeping Hoke more than a day after this season is over would be almost as stupid.
|33 weeks 6 days ago||There's an upside to coaching speculation??||
It's all downside. I was perfectly happy for my first 30 or so years as a Michigan fan when there was no coaching speculation whatsoever. The last 7-8 years, not so much.
|34 weeks 18 hours ago||We missed the significance of the Texas loss||
that was the Longhorns way of saying they want to join the Big Ten.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||What do you get when you drive by Ohio State really slowly?||
|36 weeks 1 day ago||2008 gave you more hope than last year?!?||
I guess I don't understand that. Yes there was some hope that it would get better after 2008, but I think most of us walked into 2009 hoping, praying (i.e. not expecting) we'd get to a bowl game. Were there some of us who were really expecting a jump to 10-2?
I suppose if you view there as being no hope we will get much better than last year's seven wins, i suppose I could understand the pessimism, but given the track record of our defensive and new offensive coordinators, given the continued recruiting success, given the fact that we have just about every important piece from last year's team back and have increased depth at just about every position, I guess I see lots of hope for this year to be better than last year.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||We were ranked in the top 25 prior to the 2008 season||
I don't think many people expected us to be as bad as we ended up being. Brian in his preview predicted we would have a top 20 defense, and a better rushing offense than we had in 2007. By any statistical metric you use (wins and loses, YPP, FEI, etc) we were horrible in 2008, far worse than anything in the prior 50 years of Michigan history. If you think anyone saw that coming you engaging in revisionist history.
Last year was bad, I get it, and if you feel worse about it than 2008, that's a personal choice i guess. As for me, I'd rather be mediocre (last year) than awful (2008).
|36 weeks 1 day ago||No matter how you want to slice it||
2008 was the worst year in modern Michigan football (i.e. since 1969). Period. Worst record, worst offense, worst off the field stuff, worst everything. We won three games, and weren't really close in any of the nine losses (other than maybe Toledo or Purdue). In fact, we easily could have lost two of the three we won (IIRC Miami outgained us).
You can argue all you want about how painful last year was, or how we are playing dumb football now, but 7 is still greater than 3. Always will be. A win over Notre Dame is better than a loss to Notre Dame. Close losses are better than blowout losses. A bowl game (even one in which we get depantsed) is better than no bowl game.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||Credit||
2008 was expected to be bad, but at the time bad meant 7-5. But 3-9 with all the manufactured controversy surrouding sanctions was not expected. In the space of one season we saw the program that had been rock solid for 40+ years devolve into chaos, infighting, and lunacy (both from the coaching staff and those who were desperately trying to get rid of him from the moment he stepped on campus)
Before 2008 you didn't see the kind of open bickering and infighting at Michigan you do now. Before 2008 if you wanted to negatively recruit Michigan you had to make shit up about graduation rates or the head coach having a terminal disease. Before 2008 you didn't see members of the local media engaging in a witch hunt to find "sanctions" in order to get a coach fired. The whole tenor of the program changed. I don't blame RR for all of that, but it still happened. To say you'd rather live through that again than a 7-6 season where we narrowly lost several games and beat one of our rivals handily in UTL II is just myopic.
|36 weeks 1 day ago||Wow, Brian, you've really lost it||
You think 2008 was better than last year because of the novelty?!? That's beyond ridiculous. 2008 when we lost to Toledo, didn't come within two TDs of half of our conference opponents and were blown out by all three of our rivals? That 2008 offense was worse than 2013.
Look, I get that last year was tough because of all the close losses, and because we had some hope, which, as we learned from the Shawshenk Redemption, is a dangerous thing. But last year was basically 2005, lots of close, painful losses mixed in with a win against one of our rivals. But 2005 was followed by 2006, which despite the way it ended was a great year. 2005 was easy to recover from. It took us three years to get from 2008 to a record as good as 2013, and in some sense we're still trying to dig out from it.
Last year sucked and we're still smarting from it because it was the most recent kick in the nuts. But to say it was worse than 2008 is just recency bias. Heck "The Horror" was worse than anything in 2013 (oops, sorry to bring that up)
|36 weeks 4 days ago||How about we skip||
the offens(iv)e UFR from Iowa and the defensive UFR from OSU and just do an offensive OSU UFR?
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Uh, 2012?||
We played both participants in the National Championship game.
|37 weeks 17 hours ago||They could also look at other teams that had Hawaii||
on the schedule for 2016. The school website shows that they are playing Kansas. They would be a major conference team that won't provide much of a test. There's also all the MWC teams that would have one more open spot.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||The 98 regional against North Dakota was better||
They were a clear favorite and were pissed about being sent to Yost to play. They made us use the vistors locker rooms, and bench and wear our road jerseys. They came out blazing and took a two goal lead that easily could have been four or five they way we were getting outskated. At the end of the first period we got hit with a five minute major, and things looked pretty grim. We came out, killed off the penalty, and Matt Herr scored just as he was coming out of the penalty box. Yost went bonkers, and didn't stop rocking for the rest of the game as we went toe to toe with the best team in the country, scoring the game winner with like three or four minutes left in the game. After the game, and in years since, you talk to North Dakota players or fans, and they'll say that Michigan didn't beat them, the Yost crowd did.
What made the game extra fun for us was that the previous game was MSU vs OSU where Sparty was a heavy favorite with Ryan Miller in goal. There were some spartan fans near us talking shit, and I remember the students near us chanting at them, "too dumb to be a Michigan Wolverine" Watching the sparties slink out of there after an overtime loss with their tails between their legs was a perfect appetizer to our game.
|42 weeks 4 days ago||I'm closing in on 200 games attended at Michigan Stadium||
yet I think in terms of the depth of feeling it left me with, the 98 Rose Bowl has to top the list. The game itself was really not that exciting, but standing in the emptying bowl beneath the San Gabriel mountains as the band played the postgame show, the gravity of what I had just witnessed (over the course of the whole year) started to hit me (and my dad, brother and one of my best friends). We just stood there silently, with smiles on our faces, not really knowing what words we could add to the situation that could make it any better. The only thing I can equate it to is seeing a sign at Joe Louis after the Wings won their first cup in 40+ years in 97 that read: "Now I can die"
In terms of exciting game, I don't know if anything can top UTL I, although Braylonfest was close, and I was fortunate to watch us win two nailbitters in the Snakepit in Columbus in 88 and 90 as a UofM student. The sheer loudness of the stadium since the renovations has made a big difference.
That being said, there are probably two dozen games I could see people making a reasonable argument for. One of the things that I love the most about having season tickets for so long is that it seems to me that in almost every year, even really bad seasons, we've had games where you walk out of the stadium feeling grateful that you were able to witness the game in person. 2008 was a horrible season, the Wisconsin game that year was magical.
|43 weeks 5 days ago||Did we forget somebody?||
|1 year 2 weeks ago||He's considering Duke, Vanderbilt, NU coming from Rice?||
Maybe basketball isn't his primary criteria. No shame in saying we don't measure up academically to those schools.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Interesting that there are no QBs on the list||
I'm assuming that we are still planning on taking one in this class.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||He beats them down so much mentally||
that they put their fists through a table when they get frustrated.
That and he doesn't actually teach them skills they'll be able to use in the NBA.
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Watched this video||
all I could hear is "Dennis Bergkamp, Dennis Bergkamp, DENNIS BERGKAMP!!"
|1 year 20 weeks ago||So if Saban leaves for Texas||
Could we offer Borges salary to doug Nussmeier the current OC at Bama, or Major Applewhite, the current OC at Texas? Or maybe we could try and get Bama's Ol coach, Cristobel.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||A few I remember||
"Hello Heisman" - Desmond's pose against Ohio
"The last time Brian Griese ran that far, his daddy was chasing him with a stick." - against PSU 97
"You know who the MVP is, well I'll tell you, I'm standing next to his proud poppa." - 98 Rose Bowl
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Well said||
As usual, Brian, you capture the moment perfectly.
|2 years 22 weeks ago||Your stuff is usually excellent, Brian||
but I think you've gone a little overboard here. Borges had a bad half calling plays with an offense of mismatched parts. But his QBs dropped the ball several times and missed passes badly on a few occasions. Yet we still only lost by five on the road to a team that is undefeated. Hardly a reason to go off the deep end and declare us to "be on the wrong side of history" That sounds a lot like the the "the same thing that just happened will always happen" analysis that you so rightly mock time after time.
Meyer's offense is good, but not devestating. Despite us handing them the ball time after time in the second half on our side of the field they never could punch it in against a defense with maybe one future pro on it, a slow secondary, and little if any pass rush. His offense might be better next year, but so will our defense, and we get them at home.
Comparing Meyer's offense to Oregon's is about as silly as comparing our defense to the Ravens because they call similar plays. And I notice that you negelected to mention the most recent Stanford/Oregon game in which the Ducks choked away their national title hopes at home by failing to score more than 14 points.
It was a painful loss, but one that was fully expected at the start of the year, and especially expected after Denard went down against Nebraska. The sky is not falling, the program is still trending in the right direction. In two years, Brady Hoke's record here (19-6) is slightly roughly the same as Harbaugh's last two years at Stanford (20-6), Meyer's last two years at Florida (21-6), and is better than Kelly's first two years at ND(16-10), Carr's first two years here(17-8), and Saban's first two years at Alabama (19-8). I think we'll be ok.
|2 years 27 weeks ago||Mildly clever||
but those songs are from the 1980s, not the 90s.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||Is this schedule before or after||
half the ACC joins the BIG?
|2 years 50 weeks ago||If the Hokies get an SEC invite||
at the same time UVA gets a BIG invite, that will go a long way towards easing the political troubles.
The Hokies are a better fit in the SEC and UVA a better fit in the BIG.
|2 years 50 weeks ago||If the Big 10 goes to 16||
We better be in the same division with OSU. Switch IU and Purdue with us and Sparty.
|3 years 9 weeks ago||I'd like to propose||
the picture of blood gushing from Zach Novak's head.
Or can't we do that without compromising his eligibility?
|3 years 28 weeks ago||Mr. Bacon||
You are a true gentleman and a scholar. If, as you suggest, the term "Michigan Man" still has any meaning left in it, it is embodied in your person and in your work. You make me proud to be a Michigan Wolverine, and that's more than I can say for Mr. Carr, Mr. Brandon, or many of the characters in your book.
|3 years 33 weeks ago||I'm not so sure I agree with Brian's conclusion||
so let's see, we scored all of our points and got most of our yards with Denard under center, but somehow the problem with the offense is that we need to run more shotgun?
I understand the concern about trying to duplicate the deep ball success of that game with a QB who has never been consistently accurate with long passes, but it seems to me you are too quickly dismissing the success we had passing the ball with Denard under center. I am by no means a football expert, but it seems to me that in the same way the spread opens up running lanes for Denard, the I formation could open up space for the wide receivers. On one of the TDs (Gallon's I believe), you mentioned that ND's reaction to the I formation resulted in one on one coverage on the outside (shouldn't that have been a RPS+1 by the way?) I have fond memories of watching Desmond destroy one on one coverage game after game because defenses lined up to stop our I formation and Ace double TE sets. Now you may be right that if we can't run the ball with our RBs out of the I, defenders will cheat to the outside, but that's true no matter what formation we use.
Bottom line, IMO, is that Denard can be successful in both formations, provided we don't ask him to throw the ball 50 times a game. We're in a very similar position to last year offensively. Last year the doubters wondered if Denard could hold up the whole year. They were right. This year doubters are wondering if the offense can be successful throwing "jump ball" passes. Let's hope the doubters are wrong, or Borges is smart enough to realize we need to give Denard some short or intermediate routes to work with.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||That Ben Braden quote is 100% pure columbian awesome||
Lowell is a pretty good HS football program, and for their coach to say he was worried about his kids going against Braden, well, that's a good sign for us.
|3 years 35 weeks ago||On Odoms||
Maybe his injuries are more significant that we've been led to believe.
I wonder how serious to take the listing of BWC at the one tech. I wonder if that's just a way to keep both QWash and him happy about their progress.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||A couple of "townie" places that have good food||
Several people have mentioned Casey's -- great pub food. It's small and can get kinda crowded at busy times, but service is usually top notch, and they have good daily specials.
Knight's Inn over by Vets Park feels like an old-time moose lodge in its decor, but has great prime rib, pork chops, and just about any other classic meat and potatos type of food. They have a bar in the center of the restaurant with a number of TVs always turned to sports,so its a reasonable game day alternative.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Dominick's is open until T-giving||
The last few years (four or five), they've kept the restaurant open until the end of November, although they often shut down the outdoor seating when it get too cold.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Picks||
|3 years 36 weeks ago||I guess I got my Robinsons mixed up||
Didn't realize this was already his fourth year here.
|3 years 36 weeks ago||Did I miss something?||
Has it been announced that Terrance Robinson has left the program, or did Brian just forget to include him on the list of WRs for next year?
|3 years 41 weeks ago||question for Tim or other HS football experts||
I've got a friend coming into A2 for the ND game weekend and he's interested in seeing a HS game on Friday night. any suggestions about a good game to see, taking into account talent, competitive teams, and game atmosphere?
|3 years 45 weeks ago||Why shouldn't Hoke negatively recruit OSU||
If Jim Tressel couldn't stop lying, why should Hoke stop telling the truth?
|3 years 51 weeks ago||My guess...||
if they investigate the car sales, two or three years probation, one or two year bowl ban, 10 to 20 scholarhsips over the probationary period, show cause order for Tressel.
If they stick with just Tatgate, it will be a show cause order for Tressel and one or two years probation, no scholarships or bowl ban.
|3 years 51 weeks ago||Many of the best nicknames are probably way before our time||
but here are a few ottomh:
The Guts and Glue of the Maize and Blue - Rick Leach
The Whirling Divirsh - Gordie Bell
Bo - Glenn E. Schembechler
AC - Carter
Dennis the Menace - Dennis Franklin
The Judge - Antoine Joubert
Captain Comeback - Jim Harbaugh - I think this name comes more from his NFL days than his Michigan career.
Fritz Crisler - Herbert O. Crisler
Hurryup - Fielding H Yost
|4 years 7 weeks ago||Depends on whether you are talking peak value or career value||
Webber was only a sophomore when he left. Give him two more years, and he would have been top 5 in a number of different categories.
|4 years 7 weeks ago||For those of us a little bit older than you, Brian||
The enigma that is Chris Webber cuts even deeper. I graduated from undergrad right before they got here, and I always felt a connection with them. They were beautiful to watch. They played with fire and an intensity that kept you on the edge of your seat. Imagine a team full of Mike Harts or of Denard Robinsons. The Duke game their freshman year that they almost won is probably the best game I've ever seen at Crisler. The Final four runs were full of games that were at times awesome and at times terrifying. They never did things the easy way. The final time out might have been as low a moment as we've ever witnessed in M basketball. There wasn't a single M fan whose heart didn't break watching Chris Webber bend over in pain after that play.
Yet when the whole Ed Martin thing broke a few years later, C Webb burned a lot of bridges by going on Detroit radio and calling out all the Michigan fans who were questioning him. "You're making yourself look very asisnine" He declared that he was no longer a Michigan Wolverine, and the school was dead to him. That hurt more than what he did to put us on probation.
He is our greatest basketball player, without a doubt. No one else is even close. He's also our biggest disappointment. Therein lies the rub.
|4 years 18 weeks ago||Why would Harbaugh want to hire NC State's D coordinator?||
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
|4 years 23 weeks ago||Miles would have jumped at the job||
he was never offered it.
|4 years 23 weeks ago||Ok, maybe shredded is too strong a word||
but my overall point is still valid. They looked like a top 15 defense when we played them, they aren't. Top 40 or 30, maybe, but not elite.
|4 years 23 weeks ago||I think their "vast improvement"||
has shown to be a little bit of a mirage the last three weeks, getting shredded by us, Minnesota, and Northwestern without their starting QB.
They've improved, but perhaps not as much as it looked like four weeks ago.
|4 years 23 weeks ago||There is nothing wrong with the Michigan offense...||
that wouldn't be solved with a mediocre Michigan defense. Unfortunately we are several light years away from having a mediocre defense.
|4 years 23 weeks ago||So I wonder if these comments will cause Pryor to label Spielman||
a "fake" buckeye. I suppose it depends on if he gets somebody to read the comments to him.
|4 years 26 weeks ago||"not necessarily" doesn't mean "not ever"||
True that history isn't the only indicator of what might unfold, but is certainly an indicator, and is often one of the best. Yes all great programs have gone through rough times, but their resurgence is usually brought about by a change in coaching regiemes.
I haven't done the research, can anyone find examples of coaches who have done as poorly in their first three years at a school as RR has, in relation to the school's history, and turned around to the point where they became a consistent conference contender. Frank Beamer is often cited as an example, but he took over a school that had fired their previous coach due to recruiting violations. Are there other examples?
At some point we have to use Occam's razor here -- the simplest possible explanation is that RR just isn't a good fit here.
|4 years 26 weeks ago||Great Programs were built on stability based on winning||
consistently bad seasons do not create a great program, they create Eastern Michigan.
If they play the last four games the way they've played the last three, we have to ask ourselves which is more likely:
A coach that has gone 4-20 in three years in conference will find a way to get us to 6-2 in conference every year OR
A coach that has gone 4-20 in three years will continue to go 2-6 every year?
|4 years 26 weeks ago||One worry i have about the offense||
is how it has done when games have been relatively even (i.e. in the 2nd and 3rd quarters) against the top teams on the schedule. Is seems to me that a lot of our yardage we've earned the last three games has come against prevent defenses. Maybe it's just my pessimistic outlook, but I got the feeling in all three games that if the games were on the line, the opposing defense could have stopped us.
There is no disputing that this is a great offense capable of putting up great yardage numbers. And there is also a convincing case to be made that this offense will get better next year with more pieces to the puzzle being added. But if the arguement for keeping RR rests on the idea that this will continue to be a top 5 offense in the country, than that offense better be able to move at will with the game on the line against anybody. Does anybody have 100% faith that we'd scored 35 on OSU if they don't score 50 first?
I don't think that any offseason changes will diminish the black cloud hanging over RR that's been created by 4-16. Whether it's his fault or not, i think the narrative has been written for him, and it's gonna take an awful lot to erase that, probably more than he's capable of (or at least that he's shown so far).
|4 years 34 weeks ago||You also need to include a piece||
where Brian takes apart some MSM article. Some of his pieces during the Free Press Jihad, or his taking apart of the Jim Carty AA News "Expose" on athletics and academics or of Jim Harbuagh's extremely selfserving comments would seem like good choices.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Eleven Swans||
The best thing written anywhere by anyone after Bo's death.
and the post where he tells the story of the 06 OSU game and how he realized that "things" don't always work out.
|4 years 34 weeks ago||Let's Go Blue!||
|4 years 35 weeks ago||Mike Williams||
Is he hurt, or has he just been passed up by everyone?
|4 years 35 weeks ago||My only problem with this post||
is that the Mad Men clip didn't include Christina Hendricks or January Jones.
|4 years 36 weeks ago||Here's a bunch||
Taking out my old Ufer albums:
-He went down that sideline like a penguin with a hot herring in his cummberbund
-The whirling dervish Gordie Bell, he could spend 15 minutes in a phone booth, and he wouldn't even touch the side.
-(when given praise for his work)All I've been doing for these past years is just a labor of love
-(when OSU tore down the M Club banner in 1973)-they have the audacity, the unmitigated gall to tear down the coveted M Club banner that Michigan is going to run out from under. There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like to go out and scalp those buckeyes right now.
-(one a goaline play against OSU)The give is to Shuttlesworth and he's down to the five...touchdown Franklin, touchdown Dennis Franklin, He fooled me, he fooled everyone. Dennis Franklin faked the handoff to Ed Shuttlesworth. The whole Ohio State defense and yours truly went with Shuttlesworth, Franklin went around the right side, picked up a block from Seale at the four and walked into the endzone.
-(when talking about the ADs vote in 1973 that sent OSU to the Rose Bowl)Elephants and Ufer never forget.
-It was November 22, 1969, The words were said, the prayers were read and every body cried. But when they closed the coffin, it was someone else inide. They came to bury Michigan, but Michigan wasn't dead, and when the game was over it was someone else instead. 22 Michigan wolverines put on the gloves of gray, and as Revelli played the Victors, they lay Woody Hayes away.
-(after the MSU head coach Daryl Rogers had called Michigan "arrogant asses" at their year-end football banquet.) Today, October 6, 1979 is the day that 22 Michigan arrogant asses put on the gloves of green, and as Richter played the Victors, they picked Daryl Rogers clean.
-(After Bo's first bowl win) 12 long years of waiting, 12 long years of pain, they came they saw they conquered, Bo's won the year's last game. The Rose Bowl game of 81, M fans will long remember, this win will leave a taste so sweet, right through till next September.
|4 years 36 weeks ago||I have a ton of memories||
all of which will be tinged with sadness if the split the two teams and move the game.
A few fleeting images from my 17 Michigan-OSU games:
-At my first UM/OSU game, i was 11 and sat a few seats down from an OSU fan. I had never met a buckeye before, and I kept looking down at him, not really believing that anyone could actually root for that team.
-I was in the student section when Kolesar caught that pass from Harbaugh. After he caught the pass, it looked to me like he was gonna go out of bounds before he hit the goaline.
-Three years later I was on the track in the Horseshoe not more than 10 or 15 yards away from where kolesar caught the Demetrius Brown Hail Mary to beat Cooper's first team.
-I danced on the O after we beat them down there my senior year. That same year an usher told me to F#$* off after I wished him luck in the Liberty Bowl.
-I taunted the Buckeye fans with chants of "Eddie, Eddie!" and "Northwestern's better" after Touchdown Tim torched them for 313 yards.
-I celebrated on the field with the masses after the '97 win for the ages. I still can't believe Stanley Jackson threw that ball right to Andre Weathers for a pick six.
-I suffered through the soul-crushing cold that was the 07 game. I seethed at the number of red shirts in the stands last year.
This rivalry defines college football, the big ten, and michigan football. Messing with it would be an irreversable disaster
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Les Miles didn't turn down the UofM coaching job||
he was never offered it.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||I was kinda joking||
making fun of Carr's supposed attitude towards RR, and the Angel's well-known good relationship with Carr.. Although given some of the crazy conspiracy theories that I've heard or read about lloyd's feelings on RR, it wouldn't surprise me if he set the bar really really high for RR's continued employment.
Luckily he's not making that call next year.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Consider who her source likely is||
|4 years 38 weeks ago||I grew up on Ufer||
and even though we had season tickets, I sometimes preferred the away games so that I could sit at home and listen to Ufer. We'd always watch the games with the sound turned down so that we listened to him.
I remember the first game at Michigan Stadium after he died and they had a moment of silence for him, it was the quietest I've ever heard that stadium, with the possible exception of the first game after 9/11. At the very end, someone in the crowd (or maybe in the press box) blew a Ufer like horn three times. It almost felt like he was there with us.
|4 years 38 weeks ago||Hate this, hate this, hate this||
I love that they're playing a real game, but why do it in a neutral field that's no where near either campus? They'll be no students at the game from either school, and there will be maybe 20k fans from each school. Traveling in September is a lot harder for anybody with kids in school than traveling for a bowl game. I'd almost rather see them play BGSU at home than watch them play in a half empty stadium halfway across the country. Almost. At least they could do it in a city that's interesting to visit.
Jones overpaid? That's gotta be what, 4 or 5 million for each team? Is he really gonna break even on that game? How expensive will the tickets have to be?
|4 years 39 weeks ago||Lt. Dan's Big Mouth||
I won't adress your comments about the Rather Hall incident, except to point out that maybe you should ask your hockey coach about his opinion on your football coaches commitment to discipline.
As far as his big mouth, remember that he was the one who started off his first postgame press conference by asking for a moment of silence for Michigan (after the App State loss). Of course he got into a pissing match with a player half his age after he had lost a game (at lease Spurrier talked junk after he won). After getting blown out by 40 to end the season at Penn State in 08, he said that he wasn't disappointed because "at least we didn't go 3-9" He stated publically that he'd rather his team miss the Rose Bowl than root for Michigan against Ohio State. Can you imagine Paterno, Tressel, Carr, or even Izzo ever saying any of those type of things?
i'll give him credit, he certainly understands the mindset of the spartan fanbase. He's saying the type of things that really resonate with them. But in so doing, he's really cementing MSU's position as a second tier football program, who is more concerned about beating their big brother* than being an elite football program. He's not much different than all the State coaches that came before him. His record after 30 games was 17-13, the same as JLS, two games better than Bobbie Williams, and half a game better than Nick Saban's.
*-State is our little brother, because they're family, and they are younger than us.
|4 years 39 weeks ago||My first vivid memory was watching Ricky Leach||
walking off the field at the horseshoe after having beaten OSU for the third straight year (76-77-78) and the announcers talking about how he would go down as one of the greatest players in the history of the rivalry.
I think my first game at the big house was in '77 against Duke, although I don't remember too much about it, as I was too young. I do remember a long run (90+ yards) by Butch Woolfolk against Wisconsin that I think was in 77 or 78.
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Three might be a little young||
I took my son to his first game at age five, and he left with my wife by halftime. He spent most of the game talking about getting ice cream. Part of the problem with kids that young is that in a big stadium the action is too far away for them to follow. When he was that young and we'd go to Tiger games, he'd always watch the scoreboard for the big replays of the game, instead of watching the action on the field.
One thing you can do is have him come at the end of the game to watch the band show. You can move down a lot closer to the action and the music is a lot easier for them to get involved in.
|4 years 50 weeks ago||We've stayed at a place in South Haven that we found||
through a website called VRBO.com (vacation rentals by owner). They have listing all over the world. You have to sift through a lot of stuff some times, but you can find some really good deals.
The place we found in South Haven was about three blocks from the beach, three or four blocks from downtown, and was fairly decently priced for our big group (we had six adults, one kid).
|4 years 50 weeks ago||I'm a 4||
I grew up in AA, have one parent who is a doc at the U and started going to the Big House when I was seven. The day I got accepted was one of the best days of my life (along with my wedding day and the birth of my son). i never applied anywhere else. I hope to be the parent of a 2 in another ten years.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||Me||
and the rest of my classmates. I skipped out on the LS&A ceremony (Bush I) and attended the RC graduation where every graduate got to speak. Much more inspiring and more interesting than the hearing Bush prattle on.
|5 years 11 weeks ago||The Borg||
Resistence is futile, you will be assimilated
All your schools are belong to us
|5 years 14 weeks ago||I agree with a lot of what was said on both sides of this issue||
I was in school when C Webb was here and saw some less than model behavior from him first hand. His comments on the radio immediately after Fisher was fired were reprehsible and were enough for me to hate him for a long time.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||How about||
Our play is criminal
you play criminals
|5 years 15 weeks ago||"Paid our dues like Tony"?||
Is that a Toney Clemons reference?
|5 years 16 weeks ago||You might want to check the NCAA report on the Ed Martin case||
The NCAA ruled that Ed Martin was not considered a booster at UofM, and that the transgressions at Michigan were benefits related, not recruiting related. That's why UofM got off with such a light penalty despite the large sums of money involved.
|5 years 16 weeks ago||And||
Kelly goes to SC
|5 years 17 weeks ago||That loss didn't cost PSU anything||
I can understand why the game was painful for their fans, but even if they had lost that game, there's no way they would have made the championship game over Texas or USC. They would have finished #3 before the orange bowl, #2 after it, and it would have gone down as Joe Pa's fourth (or is it fifth) undefeated team not to win a MNC.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||A key portion||
"after a doctor had examined him and returned him to the field."
If true, that is pretty damning for the James kid. If was examined by a doctor and the doctor cleared him to play, than that changes the whole story, doesn't it?
|5 years 22 weeks ago||There's a more sinister bias here than just anti-UM feelings||
I've gotten a chance to work with and get to know some teachers who grew up and live in West Virginia over the last ten plus years or so. On a number of occasions I've had conversations with them about the bias that they see from the national media towards West Virginians and people from Appalachia in general. It's not quite racism, but it is culturally based, and is one of the few bias' that is openly tolerated. Nobody minds making hillbilly jokes or characterizing everyone from West Virginia as rednecks.
|5 years 29 weeks ago||SAT problem for you||
App State : Delaware State as
A)Reality : ND Nation
B)Buckeye Fans : Their Front teeth
C) Florida : Indiana
D) All of the Above
|5 years 31 weeks ago||Godspeed Bree||
Our thoughts and prayers are with you for a speedy recovery.
|5 years 31 weeks ago||California over Oregon is pretty indefensible||
Yes head to head is only one piece of evidence, but 42-3 is a pretty damning piece of evidence for Cal. Their other wins are not so great that it should override a 39 point loss. The Maryland win means nothing, Minnesota is a middle of the pack Big Ten team. Oregon looked horrible offensively against Boise, but did hold a top ten team to their lowest output of the year.
|5 years 32 weeks ago||"I'll take redudnant statements for $200, alex"||
"I'll take redundant statements for $200, Alex"
|5 years 33 weeks ago||Sam Webb talked about King on WTKA this morning||
he seemed somewhat optimistic about Michigan's chances to land him
|5 years 33 weeks ago||Pollsters are harsher on ND||
because of their recent history. I don't think any of the players on the ND roster have ever beaten a top 25 team.
|5 years 33 weeks ago||I don't think anyone can hear them||
We're in the south endzone, and we couldn't hear them. They either need to mic them up, or they need to increase the size of the band.
|5 years 33 weeks ago||First thing he tells his parents:||
"This is not duke football"
|5 years 34 weeks ago||What I worry about||
is them finding something that is completely unrelated to their original story, is not an NCAA violationo, but could be used to paint the coaching staff in a negative light -- an affair, or texts to other coaching staffs about strategy, or just about anything. Given the nature of text messages, it would be extremely easy to take them out of context and make them seem untoward. We know how the Free Press has dealt with context in their original story.
|5 years 34 weeks ago||I would agree||
I could do without the piped in music.
|5 years 34 weeks ago||That video is fuckin' brilliant||
and is a perfect illustration why this blog is far and away the best college football site in the universe.
|5 years 35 weeks ago||Is there any way||
we can guarantee that members from the Free Press sports section will be in the press box when the demolition begins?
|5 years 35 weeks ago||It's also possible||
that like most people who don't follow Michigan football as obsessively as most of us here do, he took the Free Press article at face value, and reacted as many Michigan fans would.
|5 years 35 weeks ago||How about a take on the old Bo Quote||
To Hell with Michael Rosenberg
|5 years 35 weeks ago||Yes NDNation is horrible||
Part of what makes it horrible is the lack of dissenting views on it. let's not go down that road. Irish should feel free to post as much as he wants, so long as he doesn't take cheap shots at michigan. I, for one, appreciate the opposition viewpoint, even if it is usually wrong ;-)
|5 years 35 weeks ago||A couple of thoughts||
I have no doubt that most of this is true. And I also believe that the same sort of extra practices, although not to the same extent, happened when Carr, Moeller, and Bo were here.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||MGoRadio!!||
I'd love to see a MGoBlog Radio hour, where Brian and various assorted blogger/guesthosts impart more knowledge than most talking heads do in a year.
Oh, on the Barnett comment, yes NW did better than CU after he left, but you have to give him some credit for reviving the NU program. It's impossible to overstate how bad they were before he got there. He went 39-52 in his time in Evanston. In the 15 years before he got there they were 26-147, the worst percentage in D-I by a ten games. They won 4 games only once in that time frame. Imagine if our season last year was the best season we'd had in a decade. There were serious talks about NU scrapping the program.
Oh, and to touch on another topic, I think, but am not sure, that they sold a home game to us in 1979, so that we had five home conference games, and they only had three.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||My answers||
1) We moved to AA when I was two, somebody my mom worked with told her she had to get football tickets, and I've been going to games since I was seven.
2) As long as I can remember (30+ years)
3) Don't remember. Those sort of bargins are always forgotten shortly after they are made.
4) I already have. Sitting in the Arroyo Seco as night fell and watching Brian Griese, Charles Woodson, and the whole team accept the Rose Bowl championship trophy is the highlight of my sports fandom. It had a definite, "Now I can die" feel to it. i don't know if anything will ever top that.
|5 years 36 weeks ago||Beckman's ok||
but he's no Bob Ufer.
|5 years 37 weeks ago||Wow, that's ridiculously tough to do||
I think I'd have trouble thinking of the top 50 I've seen, let alone the top five, but I'll try.
1) 1998 Rose Bowl -- Easily Number one. As a game, it wasn't that exciting, but given the circumstances, and the fact that I was there with my dad, my brother, and one of my best friends, it was a transcendent moment. Every sports fan should have the opportunity to see their favorite team win a championship.
2) 1988 @ Ohio State -- The John Kolesar game. I was standing on the track between the stands and the back of the endzone, not more than 10-15 feet away from Kolesar when he caught the pass
3) 1997 vs Ohio State -- Woodson wins the Heisman. Two top teams, national title, big ten title, rose bowl all on the line and the best player I've ever seen played his best game. I still can't believe Stanly Jackson threw that ball.
4) 2004 vs MSU -- The Braylon Game. Pure magic under the lights.
5) 1999 vs Notre Dame -- There are probably a dozen games I could put in this slot or #4. This was a barnburner right up to the end, with ND trying to drive for a winning score when time ran out on them.
|5 years 37 weeks ago||Karma||
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!
|5 years 38 weeks ago||I could really care less how Lt. Dan handles this case||
It's an internal Sparty matter, doesn't concern us. Lord knows we've had similar situations to deal with in the last 10+ years.
|5 years 38 weeks ago||Are we sure that it was supposed to be man coverage||
We didn't see the entire drill, perhaps it was supposed to be zone coverage and whoever was suppose to pick up Grady didn't
|5 years 38 weeks ago||I got 112 out of 120||
Didn't try the nicknames quiz
|5 years 38 weeks ago||I got 25 out of 26||
Missed the least obvious one.
|5 years 38 weeks ago||I think there is some cultural bias going on here||
I think there are a fair number of people around SE Michigan, both in the media, and people at the university who look down on Rodriguez because he comes from West Virginia. There is an unspoken belief that being from West Virginia makes one a hick, less cultured and less educated than someone from the midwest.
|5 years 38 weeks ago||That's really depressing||
My undergrad years coincided with Murry's, so I have a lot fond memories of his play. He was, along with Tripp Wellbourne, perhaps the finest safety we've had at Michigan.
Godspeed to him and his family. I hope they can find some peace and solice.
|5 years 38 weeks ago||An Emperor of Space shirt||
is definitely in order for the coming season.
Some other ideas:
|5 years 39 weeks ago||Why do we need an alternate jersey?||
We have one of the best uniforms in college football, instantly recognizable and with a lot of tradition to it. Why do people feel the need to mess with that? We're not Oregon
|5 years 39 weeks ago||Project much?||
" If they (Uconn) feel there above playing ND, I would say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" and I would not be so lonely with those statements."
It's not UConn who feels they are above ND, its the other way around. ND is the one who insisted on a ten game series with none of the games played at UConn. I would be willing to bet that if the ND/UConn series had two or three games out of ten played in Conn., the writer wouldn't have written that article. I'm sure UConn would love to play a 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 with one neutral site game, but ND wouldn't agree to it.
|5 years 39 weeks ago||I didn't really have that problem||
My wife knew that I wa a lifelong fan before we ever went on a date, as was she. She in fact, worked as a ticket taker at the stadium before we ever met.
The question with my son was waiting until he was old enough to truly appreciate the game.
|5 years 39 weeks ago||I kinda wish we hadn't||
backed off Dior Mathias. I know we still lead for Christian and maybe for Grimes, but in this day and age you can never have too many DBs.
|5 years 40 weeks ago||A halftime show suggestion||
I would love to see a halftime dedicated to Parliament Funkadelic-- lots of grooves suitable for a large brass and percussion section, a chance for some advanced musicanship, and you could even add some showmanship to it.
|5 years 40 weeks ago||How about the theme from 2001||
I remember they played it at Yost at the start of a playoff overtime some years back and the crowd really got into it.
The problem with a lot of the suggestions people are making is that they don't translate well to a marching band. "jump around" works for wisconsin because the band doesn't play it.
Surely there must be a good Beethoven or Wagner piece that could be rousing.