|7 weeks 2 days ago||I see a lot of chuck and duck coming...||
this is Jake Frysinger trying to decapitate the QB last time we played Hawaii. It is going to look vary familiar tomorrow.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Those Socks! The shoulder pads! Truly ONE of a kind.||
|12 weeks 2 days ago||the only difference is in the||
the only difference is in the 2. Noithing to see here.. move along.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||This guy was pretty good too...||
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Are you still talking about||
Are you still talking about the rat?
|16 weeks 2 days ago||Kenny Holland is the worst GM||
Kenny Holland is the worst GM in hockey. That is all.
|17 weeks 5 days ago||Had to take him down at that||
Had to take him down at that point, the real crime was a first touch way up the field that would have had my 12 year old apologizing to teammates. When wondo is your answer, you don't have an answer.
|18 weeks 15 hours ago||What about the film and||
What about the film and talent evaluators not on this board? The ones that offered him a scholarship to Michigan. And say what you want about the teams that offered him and what they have accomplished (dare I say more than UM in the last 10 years), but they have all evaluated and offered kids that have individually done great things over that same time period. So.. when you make a negative comment based on one small part of his recruiting profile (his crappy offer list (which it isn't)) without even bothering to comment on his.. you know... football skill. You are going to get killed every time. And rightly so.
And the best part of your argument, calling out the people on this board as not knowing what the F they are talking about... Yes, you are the ONE, thanks for gracing us with your presence.
|19 weeks 5 days ago||my favorite print ads||
my favorite print ads :
"Volvos, Yes they are boxy, but they're safe"
And who could forget the classic...
Porsche. It's a little too small to get laid IN, but you get laid the minute you get out!
|19 weeks 5 days ago||Totally agree, this clearly||
Totally agree, this clearly shows without a shadow of a doubt that he does not possess the decision making skills necessary to be the starting UM QB!
|19 weeks 5 days ago||you can't care about winning||
you can't care about winning the QB job AND post a picture.. all at the same time?
I was just going to give him kudos for the obvious multitasking. I love it when my QB can multitask!
|34 weeks 1 day ago||I was thinking Grady Brooks,||
I was thinking Grady Brooks, but then I was going back a little farther.
|34 weeks 1 day ago||71-70 UM||
no 10 minute scoring droughts please.....
|36 weeks 1 day ago||We will always have.. That||
We will always have.. That ball you dropped "on purpose". You gave us the Mercury Hayes GW catch and saved the kick off classic vs UVA. I'd say #1 was well earned on that day alone.
|36 weeks 5 days ago||I am a Cam fan, but it's||
I am a Cam fan, but it's pretty simple, dude quit on his teammates and his fans. I don't think his race had anything to do with that. And nothing he has done prior to or after that play will change what happened on that one particular play.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Look at you using your||
Look at you using your facts.
As Homer J used to say, "Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to proove anything that is even remotely true. Facts schmacks."
|37 weeks 2 days ago||Left shark has to make an||
Left shark has to make an appearance. Just won't be the same without him.
|37 weeks 4 days ago||I'm going to call you Plaxico||
I'm going to call you Plaxico from here on out. Got so excited to post that the gun went off in your pocket and you shot yourself in the ass. (metaphorically of course).
But I hit you with a + anyway. Because.. 2016 D y'all!!!
|37 weeks 4 days ago||0nly have an opening if 5||
0nly have an opening if 5 players leave. (that includes D.J. making it in academically) We need to shed 4 to get to 85 and one more to have an "opening".
|37 weeks 5 days ago||Flipping out about recruiting||
Flipping out about recruiting is something a grown man should not do, but flipping out about the logo on the jersey is something a grown man should do? I don't flip out about either, but to each his own I guess.
|39 weeks 2 days ago||this can't be correct... I||
this can't be correct... I heard that Michigan had ruined this kid's future.
|39 weeks 5 days ago||They don't, that's why the||
They don't, that's why the suspensions are 3 and 2 instead of 2 and 1.
|39 weeks 6 days ago||Tell your buddy that when you||
Tell your buddy that when you put another player in a headlock and slam him head into the ice face first, you get what's coming. I don't blame Martin one bit for being pissed and retaliating in kind. Your friend deals a cheap shot but is super pissed he got one in return. Typical buckeye.
|41 weeks 4 days ago||Well done Manuel.||
Well done Manuel.
|41 weeks 5 days ago||welp, now that that's done,||
welp, now that that's done, what are you going to do with the other 241 days 23 hours and 58.5 minutes?
|44 weeks 9 hours ago||Why was he ever committed to||
Why was he ever committed to someone other than Georgia? If that is the only place he wants to go.. I see more changed at uga than fsu since then, and not in a good way and he decomitted before all those changes anyway. Agree with those that say if this is a biz decision it's UM every time and twice on Sunday's (pun intended) but this doesn't look like that type of decision. Our loss and his where Sunday's are concerned. We will both survive anyway.
|46 weeks 5 days ago||Foot clap is the best.||
Foot clap is the best. Someone make a gif and insert it every time there is a positive post. (Please)
|47 weeks 1 day ago||Our fanbase is embarrassing.||
Our fanbase is embarrassing.
|47 weeks 4 days ago||This is relatively mainstream||
This is relatively mainstream compared to some others that have been mentioned, but I look forward to stocking up at thanksgiving every year as my go to regular drinking beer for the cold winter months.
|48 weeks 3 days ago||It's one of the biggest||
It's one of the biggest differences between the pro game and college. If you are a group of people desperately trying to convince yourself of something tht you have basically made up, it is the perfect target. And it just goes to show you how little they knew him, or what he was really going to do. They just made it all up.
|49 weeks 4 days ago||The Marylebone station sports||
The Marylebone station sports bar would be my best guess. good luck. Not easy to find a spot in London, the game is early enough that you should be OK. I tried for the Utah game. The :ate start time on a Thursday/friday morning made it very difficult.
|51 weeks 6 days ago||Can we stop comparing||
Can we stop comparing football deaths to deaths that occur while doing things that are non voluntary.
I have to go to work to support my family, its just a little too far to walk. If I should die in a car crash on the way to work, it is completely different than signing up to play football and dying as a result.
I am not commenting on football or its inherent dangers, I just hate when people compare apples to oranges. Lets see the comparison to other activities that are done for "fun". I am sure there are equally high mortality rates for other elective activities. What are they and how can we make them ALL safer before sending our children off to participate in them.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||56-6 Mich||
|1 year 3 weeks ago||BOOOO!||
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Looks like they'd have at||
Looks like they'd have at least 3 sold, because I was also going to say the same thing.
Hell, I'd wear that one. Their fear is palpable and it makes me laugh. That shirt is their fear in physical form.
|1 year 4 weeks ago||27-20 UM||
|1 year 4 weeks ago||just to even it up so there are no arguments||
|1 year 7 weeks ago||We ARE talking about an ohio||
We ARE talking about an ohio state fan... Right? They'll poop in a cooler, but god forbid they add 69 to their email address... It'd never happen!!
|1 year 8 weeks ago||Not DR, but yeldon got||
Not DR, but yeldon got wrecked. Did not look like a td to me.
|1 year 10 weeks ago||I give a damn about Day 1.||
I give a damn about Day 1. Because there has been..... 1 day. And quite frankly after 1 day you can't really comment on who has been better all camp or who is the best heading into game 1. So after 1 day why does everyone always jump on the guy who wants to talk about what happened on day 1???
I am sure even the OP will be happy to talk QBs after the whole camp is over, and I am further sure that he will never say "I can't believe Harbaugh is starting "XXX", didn't he see what Henson said after Day 1".
|1 year 13 weeks ago||'88 '89 '90 ND||
Reggie Ho in my dorm room.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Are we recruiting him at RB?||
Are we recruiting him at RB? Saw him play a couple tunes last year and he looks like he could be a damn good DB too.
|1 year 14 weeks ago||You'll get nothing and like||
You'll get nothing and like it!
|1 year 14 weeks ago||Am I the only one confused by||
Am I the only one confused by the math?
76.8+80.2 = 169? 12*11 = 169? What are the other streams of revenue that get us to the 15+ mil a year needed to reach 169 over 11 years. And is 2016-2027 11 or 12 years. If it includes both the 2016 Football season and the 2027 football season, then that would be 12. Which is still 14+ a year, not 12 or 10.X or whatever.
Just to be clear. Its ALL good, just curious.
|1 year 14 weeks ago||Pluto is a dog||
|1 year 15 weeks ago||You get plus one everywhere I||
You get plus one everywhere I see that blue crab in your avatar. mmmmmmmmmmmmbluecrab.......
|1 year 15 weeks ago||5 commented, should we assume||
5 commented, should we assume the rest hate the idea or don't care? So how much does it really "matter".
|1 year 16 weeks ago||Just stopped by to say fire||
Just stopped by to say fire holland. Its way over due. That's all, carry on.
|1 year 16 weeks ago||I sense a flowbee at work||
I sense a flowbee at work here...
|1 year 17 weeks ago||You can't judge talent, but||
You can't judge talent, but you can judge the job that Jim Harbaugh is doing judging talent, and despite his years of proving that he can judge talent you are skeptical or maybe you believe he forgot how to in the last 6 months. Sound logic.
And now it gets better, you also believe that the coaches as every Cal Pac12 school can also evaluate talent better than JH can... and the evidence you use for this is a kid that has played how many snaps of college ball? hmmmm interesting. This is great stuff.. keep it up, its like a comedy show for my lunch break.
|1 year 17 weeks ago||And that was '13 and '15.||
And that was '13 and '15. Nothing between '06 and '13.
That is not good.
|1 year 21 weeks ago||Let me give this a go...||
"What is he great at, though?"
Beaten to the punch by an ..... HOUR? How did this comment not show up when I just logged in for the first time today? Oh well, massive fail on my part. Carry on.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||The change from maize to||
The change from maize to highlighter yellow began under nike's watch. I love how everyone rewrites history to fit their argument.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Kids these days... smh.||
Kids these days... smh.
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Yes, this. So simple, yet so||
So simple, yet so difficult for some to wrap their head around it.
5 play at a time in bball (10-12 total), 24 (O-D-ST) in Football (50-60 total?).
#1 BB will have a bigger impact.. its math.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Yeah?||
|1 year 26 weeks ago||We had a different athletic||
We had a different athletic director then. Brandon let or made adidas do everything they did.
|1 year 26 weeks ago||That is true for most every||
That is true for most every apparel company... School has right of last refusal.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Ding Ding Ding... Holland||
Ding Ding Ding... Holland can go any time he wants. There is not enough time in a day to list out all his bad moves over the last 4-5 years.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||No offense, but 250 people||
No offense, but 250 people signed the petition to stop the movie... and eventually failed to stop it at all. Not sure how that says anything about the behavior of 110,000 people at a football game. Further, I would be willing to bet a very small % of those 250 even attend games.
FWIW, the most important issue in this whole damn thing is censorship is bad. period.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Mike Barrowman||
Dude was an absolute beast in the pool. And was short by swimming standards, which was cool to see for an average sized dude.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Maize was gone long before||
Maize was gone long before nike was.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Everyone does understand that||
Everyone does understand that nothing made it onto the field/court that was not approved by UM first.. right? The Ugly shit is not an adidas issue it was a UM marketing BS issue.
Can't wait for our first fugly ass pro combat unis. Yeah, and we won't even make nike break the bank to do it.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Bown and it's not even close.||
Bown and it's not even close. Brown is do or die this month, Gary has a lot of time.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Can someone explain the Diag||
Can someone explain the Diag Squirrel Reference?
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Make sure her official||
Make sure her official recruiting trip is after Memorial Day.. Good luck.
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Someone post the otter.. a||
Someone post the otter.. a million times, if this happens. And I am a wings fan. Having an underachieving hockey team hurts my soul.
|1 year 33 weeks ago||Cowley's in Farmington is||
Cowley's in Farmington is good. Live music all the time. I live on the other side of town, so I only get over there ocassionally.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||I guess the Paramus coach||
I guess the Paramus coach would be one thing. He has a relationship to the #1 DT in the country for 2016.. but a grad transfer who will be a back up or nickle DB.. for 1 year. She must be qualified, because otherwise thats a horrible hire just to land that dude. and I don't buy Harbaugh doing stupid stuff. If he was looking to gain an advantage with a recruit, I am sure that Eason (insert actual highly rated HS recruit here) has a relative with a pulse that needs a job.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||All you have to do is read||
All you have to do is read down the board and there is a thread about a kid pushed out at Louisville, and some manner of discussion on oversigning. All dirty recruiting tactics most of which have nothing to do with UM. This would be a board topic even if it wasn't OSU and Weber. Shoot, I am here commenting and I want nothing to do with Weber.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Just for the record, he||
Just for the record, he tweeted that he was unhappy.
I do agree with you that it is a slippery slope. Still the commitment should not be one way.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Weber was not sold a bill of||
Weber was not sold a bill of goods. He chose to believe a man with a very public track record of being a liar and a douche. Sounds like he got exactly what he was sold. At some point maybe kids or their parents will care about the bigger picture before it directly effects them, but more likely they will continue to go were the cash and/or the trophys currently reside. The names that have popped up around signing day are the names that have popped up every year. yet OSU (et. al.) already has top kids signed on for next year. Go figure.
Nothing (new) to see here. Move along.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Worst kept secret in||
Worst kept secret in recruiting history.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||My take on some of these||
My take on some of these visits...
UM: "we are waiting on a kid who plays your position who is committed to another school and (we want him more) or (first one to bite gets the spot) or (some other slightly non commital statement)"
Kid: "so I don't have a guaranteed spot?"
UM: "not exactly"
Kid's current school "go and we might just axe you"
Kid: "What happens if my UM spot gets taken..?"
Kid's current school: "NMP"
Kid: "Mr. Harbaugh sir.. I think I will stick with my current school.. thanks anyway"
|1 year 38 weeks ago||And get off your lawn?||
And get off your lawn?
|1 year 38 weeks ago||I can't imagine that Harbaugh||
I can't imagine that Harbaugh is horribly upset by this.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||I... can't... stop...||
I... can't... stop... watching....
|1 year 38 weeks ago||First ever double post||
Maybe I shouldn't have gotten into UM..
|1 year 38 weeks ago||I think he was more trying to||
I think he was more trying to let the kid know the great opportunity that he was being given. If you can use a skill to get you into a great university that you would not otherwise be accepted into why not use it. No sense in using that skill to get you into a school that any schmuck can get into like osu. Kid just took it way wrong, his old man took it wrong and in hindsight, maybe that says something about the kid and his old man.
Lots and lots of very very smart kids don't get into UM, so... yeah, it means the coaches are calling you stupid. SMH
|1 year 39 weeks ago||I think Magnus was commenting||
I think Magnus was commenting on the NCAA rule moreso than if UM specifically gives discounts to children of employees, as it is clear that they do not. **if** they did it would count against the 85 limit.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||This is why there should only||
This is why there should only be one week before the superbowl. Way too much time for nonsense.
BTW, I would be embarrassed if I was the Ravens or Colts. Excuses (especially weak ones) are for losers.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||4 teams will have Zero extra||
4 teams will have Zero extra games. 2 teams will have 1 extra game. and 2 teams will have 2 extra games. this is not a whole lot of extra games or a whole lot of time that the players will miss playing school.
And who would go? I think you would need to have first round games in non traditional bowl areas. (I would prefer a late regular season game as the first round on campus) but even if you had round 1 prior to xmas in Seattle, St Louis, Detroit, NY for instance... that would sell, then you can move south to tradition bowl places. and only have 3 games left to sell.
These are not insurmountable problems.
|1 year 40 weeks ago||Not sure why I laughed so||
Not sure why I laughed so hard about this, but I did. +1 to you for being so observant.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||But nobody will be paying for||
But nobody will be paying for JRs education. So there's that.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||I imagine he got the same||
I imagine he got the same speech every player will get, stay and work your ass off or transfer. No exceptions for any reason.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Giving my vote to BB as well.||
Giving my vote to BB as well. Classic.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||You make $25 an hour and "$20||
You make $25 an hour and "$20 is $20".. so it takes you 48 minutes to do these gay things you get paid for?
sorry, I read this post WAY to closely.....
|1 year 44 weeks ago||I have to question your||
I have to question your sarcasm detector. It's clearly broke.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Are they going to stay at||
Are they going to stay at their current job for 1/4 of what Harbaugh was offered because they are insulted by being offered only 1/2 of wht Harbaugh was offered.. If so they were not smart enough to be our coach anyway.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||We'll pay 48 mil for a coach||
We'll pay 48 mil for a coach but not 50K for ipads if he wants them?? Lokk at it this way... any team that has ipads will have OLDER ones than our when jimmy rolls onto campus.. Yay us!!
Schefter is a moron.. no doubt.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Yup. So it's not Adidas it's||
Yup. So it's not Adidas it's Michigan. Maybe now that the circus leader is gone, the clown uni's will be gone too.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||I would put an order in for sure.||
Love to rep any of the schools from the Muck.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Really? Isn't that their||
Really? Isn't that their job? To know something about the sports that they talk about? Do they need to know the 2 deep of every program? No, but how about the final four teams.. and oh I don't know.. the team that they are currently talking about. The winningest program in history that is currently in the middle of a coaching search that is being talked about daily all over the country... 3 minutes of show prep would have given them 50X the knowledge than they were clearly dealing with. I would love to walk into a meeting and talk about the Ford Focus pickup truck.. and after my boss would say, its an honest mistake, there are really a lot of vehicles on the market. You can't be expected to know about all of them.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Third||
|1 year 46 weeks ago||And dancing unicorns = Jim||
And dancing unicorns = Jim Harbaugh
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I am going to start an||
I am going to start an "official" University of Michigan, thank you evenyoubrutus thread. I speak for all of Mgoblogosphere and the entire universe for that matter when I say we owe you... everything. Thanks fo being you.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||"before the season" Agree||
"before the season"
Agree with everyone that this is pretty dumb at this point. But I would go Ryan and Gardner. I can't wait for next Sept.. that will be the first time in a long time all the goofiness stops... god willing.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||well, start with BB's first 4||
well, start with BB's first 4 years as a head coach in the NFL, and go from there. Or his last 4 years and go from there. The only way you don't conclude that they are on the same teir is if you cherry pick a four year stretch that ended 10 years ago. Funny that those were also in the same stretch of years that "arguably" the greatest QB in football history was in his prime.
Just to be clear, I think Belichick is the best coach in football, but I think right now, today, there is a great argument that he has company at the top.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Isn't the committee supposed||
Isn't the committee supposed to pick the 4 best teams to play in the playoff? So if all we are doing is looking at SOS, quality wins, Quality losses.... then why not just have the computers pick it?
If you look at the fact that OSU was breaking in a new QB, who happens to be playing like a heisman contender at this point, I would argue that they look way better than FSU right now. I wish someone would have the balls to say 1. Bama, 2. Ore, 3. TCU 4. OSU
They look like the best 4 teams to me right now.. with maybe only MSU having an argument to get in there.. but we know they are not number 1.. the other three might be but since the SEC won't play anyone OOC, its tough to tell where to slot them.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Serious question. If your||
If your music performances graded out at C level, but you kicked ass in your English (and other LSA type courses) what would happen to your standing in the Music School?
If you Kicked ass in your music performances, but your LSA type stuff graded out in the C range, what would happen?
My personal feeling is that is someone brings something to the table that raises the profile of the university (whether everyone agrees that it is an academic pursuit or not) then as long as they complete their coursework at an average clip, then the University is better off for having them enrolled. This would go for Athletics or Music or Art or any other skill one might have.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||he also hired a football||
he also hired a football coach that has won and won big at every place he has ever coached but 1. A coach that is currently winning big at a place that hasn't been good since the desert swarm D's of the late 80's early 90's. Martin seems to have been the only intelligent Alum around Michigan during his tenure.
|2 years 1 week ago||Adidas wasn't his.||
Adidas wasn't his.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Just for the record, RR||
Just for the record, RR wanted Casteel to come to Michigan. THe AD did not. Because UM doesn't pay their coordinators that much.. because this is Michigan fergodsakes.
Of course now they do because they are attempting to support the current coach. Too bad he is really bad at coaching where the last one was actually very good at it.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Hiring him was not a mistake,||
Hiring him was not a mistake, treating him like shit was a mistake. Supporting him because he was the coach at the University of Michigan was the right thing to do.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||I love all the ideas that you||
I love all the ideas that you have offered up to effect change in the Athletics department.. I can't believe that they won't work better than a couple play boycott.
I support change with no boycott, I support change with no dismal records, I support change with no free tickets for coke, I support change with no concussed players playing for my team. Unfortunately no change is happening. Some people have come up with a way that will fully demonstrate their displeasure. If someone had offered up another idea that would "hurt the players" less, i am sure it would have been considered. Since nobody has and the University has done NOTHING to address the concerns of the masses... so... you will have some people demonstrating. And in my opinion, good for them.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||I agree, but then.. you||
I agree, but then.. you know... Don't say anything. Just quietly go about the business of trying to fix it.
That is what I am doing with the only avenue open to me as an alumn, fan, donor. I have expressed my displeasure with the current state of the Athletic Department and Football Program to the relevant people not even on twitter, just directly to them. Nothing more I can really do. So I come here to vent.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||At some point I would look at||
At some point I would look at myself and ask the tough questions. DO I really suck this bad? Why do I really suck this bad? Is it all me? Am I being let down with the instruction that I am getting? I think in the end, you ARE allowed to wonder as a player if you are getting propper instruction regardless of how much you like your head coach. I do not see what the fans are doing as anything different than that.
To demand a certain level of performance is not by definition "turning your back" on anyone.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Neither is being a player.||
Neither is being a player. Or an ex player. Didn't we have this argument about 4-7 years ago. How'd that turn out?
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Treating a coach like a leper||
Treating a coach like a leper before he ever sets foot on campus....... never forget.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||No, his fate was sealed||
No, his fate was sealed before he arrived in A2 and Michigan would not let him pay his DC to come to UM. His fate was sealed when som eof his players were conviced to leave by the previous coaching stafff. His fate was sealed when the arrogant Michigan fanbase refused to accept him or his football philosophy, because "this is Michigan forgodsakes".
Best part of all... we all proved Dantonio right.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Listen to yourself dude. Its||
Listen to yourself dude. Its beyond moronic sitting where we are right now. We have averaged 14.5 in our last 4 games.. thats ALL the games we have played against BCS teams. The whole program is a dumpster fire. RR couldn't get his kids to focus in the middle of the "fire RR, who is our next coach going to be" circus that started just before he arrived in A2 3 years prior and was at a boiling point from midseason on that year? Shame on him!
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Yes, just barely good enough||
Yes, just barely good enough to be undefeated and beat the #2 team on the road.
No quite up and down enough to get trucked by a team that completed a single pass in a game against san jose st... but I am sure you have an argument why that is better.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||a million times this.||
a million times this.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||5-0 1-0 against top two teams||
1-0 against top two teams ON THE ROAD.
You are what your record says you are... right? So the rest of your bullshit is just.. well, bullshit.. right?
|2 years 3 weeks ago||He is not telling the truth..||
He is not telling the truth.. He is creating a differnt argument. People want Hoke fired, they wanted him fired before the Morris incident. Same goes for Brandon. They wanted Hoke gone because his players never improve, the team looks lost and disorganized, He and the Athletic Director lie and deflect any real concern about the program at any chance they get.
Witchhunts are for inocent people who are getting railroaded after doing NOTHING wrong. He CLEARLY misshandled both the in-game decision making (putting a young man in harms way) and the aftermath where neither he nor Brandon could come up with any plausible reason why all of this happened or why he still didn't have the facts or explanation more than 24 hours later.
This is just one more peice of evidence to find him guilty of being bad at his job... you know GUILTY of being a bad football coach (and AD). So, it's not a witchhunt, its using the most recent, obvious, and provable bit of info to get a guy removed from a job that HE SHOULD BE removed from.
Also, F Golic too.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||I was taught that when you||
I was taught that when you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. And Being a proud Michigan Man... I always listen to my elders.
Have a nice day everyone.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||I hate these conversations,||
I hate these conversations, because inevitably it gets back to bagging on kids that are working their ass off for our entertainment... but, if our QB always locks in on one WR (usually Funchess) in a 2 and 3 WR set and throws at him no matter how open he is.. what makes anyone think that sneding out more WRs (less protection) is going to make any difference except maybe get him killed even faster. Serious question. This is the route that should have been taken 10 years ago (strike up the florida bowl game old bit), it probaly would have (did) worked with those QBs OLs WRs back in the day.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||this||
|2 years 4 weeks ago||this. good talk.||
this. good talk.
|2 years 4 weeks ago||Yes. At least you would know||
Yes. At least you would know that the head coach has a strong grasp on the situation. That's always the first step in fixing an issue(s). Instead we get, "I like where this team is at". Sorry coach Hoke, I don't.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||I'm not convinced Hoke knew||
I'm not convinced Hoke knew what or who he was referring to. Nothing about his statement clarifies if he was talking about just people who tweet at the kids, or maybe me who thinks they need to play better (although I do not fault their own effort or will), and the coaches who most definitely need to coach better. He said that he likes where this team is at... umm... I got nothing for that.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||That isn't really the point.||
That isn't really the point. He made a ridiculous comment that I matched in ridiculousness for the point of illustrating its ridiculousness.
Still, since you asked.
1. Mattison or Nuss would be in charge, not Hoke.
2. Brandon would have a long time to openly talk to whoever he wanted to in order to upgrade our head coach.
3, It would give me as a season ticket holder, alum, fan a reason to plunk down a couple grand for next year's tickets with the hope that we may actually get better when everything I have seen over the past three years says that if a change isn't made we will not. No I will not plunk my money down until later, but I would rather not spend the rest of the year rooting for the kids to win only to feel that sense of dread that rolling up Miami, Utah, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Indy, NW brings back a guy who I know can't beat OSU or MSU.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Why is it ok for Hoke to||
Why is it ok for Hoke to question my fandom? while I am not allowed to question his coaching? I am there every Saturday, paying my money, cheering on his ill prepared charges. Hoping for the best but knowing what we will get as I have seen it week in and week out for 3+ years.
Neg away, but I guarantee that over the last 3 years I have been a way better fan than he has been a coach.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||If you are a true Michigan||
If you are a true Michigan man you step down today, if you're not then you won't.
Also, I am still rooting for the kids. Nobody deserves to be handicapped the way they have been by their coaching staff.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Pryor is that you??... We||
Pryor is that you??... We know Terrelle, everybody rapes... so it's all good man.
OSU and ND... 2 peas in a pod.
|2 years 7 weeks ago||37-20||
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Who is the SAM on these plays||
Who is the SAM on these plays and where is he?
I suppose we are in nickle and there is another DB we can't see.
If Jake were playing SAM... would he have been off the field anyway on this play?
You are trying to stop a run play with 6, when the other team has all 6 guys accounted for... either someone makes an excellent play or the back hits the crease and takes his yards. We won't often do this on D, I would assume.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||I am not currently and||
I am not currently and further more, have never actually chased a rabbit.
I do throw tennis balls at them from time to time.... don't judge, they F up my garden!
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Georgia.. lots of smoke UVA||
Georgia.. lots of smoke
UVA .. big recuiting area lately.
Hoping for Texas or LSU. I would make the trip to both those places.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Let me get this straight..||
So... they have sex with her and she does their homework?
Wow, she got herself a great deal there.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Dude, that's not a gay joke..||
Dude, that's not a gay joke.. that's a "slot recievers are short" joke...
Not sure thats even a joke, as slot recievers are... you know... short.
And to the people who think these 2.. TWO! young men have made a big deal over themselves coming out.. Are you saying that nobody would have blinked if they showed up with their boyfriends at the ESPYs or something?? There is an announcement to get out in front of the shit storm that WILL come. If in ten years after hundreds of athletes have followed suit guys are still calling press conferences (or the like) to come out.. then you would have a point.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Do you know how many alumni||
Do you know how many alumni of both schools are in that area?... It will be awesome!
|2 years 10 weeks ago||That group was loaded with||
That group was loaded with talent. And brought so many different styles to the table.
Still disappoints me to think of Jesse Johnson's wasted talent, but when you go by "house cat" its not going to end well.
|2 years 11 weeks ago||Love this argument||
Forbes ranking of top sports brands in the UNIVERSE:
Yes... secondary. Maybe ESPN will start making equipment so we can skip that wannabe at #2 and go right to #1!!!
We're Michigan FORGODSAKES!
|2 years 13 weeks ago||Somebody might want to try||
Somebody might want to try out TE. Would have at least as much change of seeing playing time that way than sticking with the roundball.
|2 years 15 weeks ago||2) so when he scheduled Ap||
2) so when he scheduled Ap St... he didn't know that they would still be championship subdivision or whatever they call Div 2 these days... He didn't know that we had lost to them the last time that they were in A2? That we were a national laughingstock because of it all year long? That the media was going to talk about, show highlights from and generally make fun of us all over again for the months leading up to that game.. because of what happened that first time around?
Schedule part 2.... neutral site away games. Because he decided to play these games in Texas years in advance he didn't know or can't be blamed for:
The game being held in some generic NFL stadium related to nothing, thousands of miles away from the bulk of his fan base?
The band being left out until some donors stepped up to bail him out?
The price of the tickets being triple or more than the average home game or away game at another university stadium.
The travel cost being 10X or more higher for most of us season ticket holders than another home game.
Taking a very low payout (compared to the total amount that was brought in for the game) when he agreed to the matchup.
How is it we can't blame him for the schedule again?
|2 years 22 weeks ago||Was just going to say the||
Was just going to say the same think.
If you don't like the policy, avoid having to deal with it at all and just don't commit. Seems simple enough.
|2 years 28 weeks ago||Lets hope that what GRIII and||
Lets hope that what GRIII and MM see convinces them that another year in school would do them some good. Stauskas will see a very high grade, so he would have to find other reasons to stay. Not going to happen.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Run Caris, Run wins. I think||
Run Caris, Run wins. I think its as good as most LSU freak stuff.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Just like it took character||
Just like it took character and guts for Sam to get to this point, it will take equal character and guts for a GM to make that pick knowing the situation as you described it. But I bet there are some out there that will have what it take to stand in front of a camera and say "we drafted him because we thought he could help us on the feild and we didn't care about his private life, and we cut him because he just wasn't good enough at football"
It is going to be very interesting no matter how it plays out.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Looking at the Bball team||
Seriously, I have been asking for a year now where Bielfeldt has a higher upside, football or Basketball. I know you just can't start playing football and be great right away, but as of now it does not look like minutes on the court will be easy to come by, and 6-7 245 is not a bad place to start for a tight end, and he has 3 years of eligibility left.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||nothing to see here. double||
nothing to see here. double post. damn. I blame my parents over protective nature for this... :-)
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Exactly at what point do you||
Exactly at what point do you stop putting your foot down? 10 years old? 12? 15? 17? 18? At 18 my parents told me that the day I pay for 100% of my school (yes Malik's is free) and pay rent in the summers, i can stop following their direction. I would say that Malik's Parents are still allowed to parent as it appears as though Malik is still living at home and being provided for by said parents. It is a shame that it has turned into this, but I certainly won't speak for anyone in this situation or point fingers when i have no idea what the conversations were like throughout this whole recruitment.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||I second this... This should||
I second this... This should be at least done weekly. I will go nowhere else for my big ten basketball standings.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||Even after that ruling, I am||
Even after that ruling, I am pretty sure that there are several US players that are playing in the NBA that have never stepped foot on a campus. Not to mention the hundreds of Euro's that seemed to manage to get to the league without enrolling in a university. There ARE other avenues. It is not up to the leagues to pick them or create them or support them.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||Sad day for sure. Best of||
Sad day for sure. Best of luck to all three. And here's to hoping we grab another kid or two out of the Muck some day.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||NO MICHIGAN TIES!!! Oh the||
NO MICHIGAN TIES!!! Oh the humanity!!!!
I think our athletic department could use some of his influence... STAT! Or better yet, I think the search committe should start on their next task, finding us a new AD, ready..... go!
|2 years 39 weeks ago||One positive outcome for||
One positive outcome for Dawson here... He won't see his horrendous play on film for the next... I don't know... 4-5 weeks.
|2 years 40 weeks ago||Yup thats kind of the point.||
Yup thats kind of the point. If they were all young, this would be a "they died to young" thread. Instead it shows just how long some of us have been around.
Mary Ann and Jaclyn for sure.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||Borges did both.||
Nothing to see here, beaten to the punch my a internet mile.
|2 years 41 weeks ago||Recruiting wise, Campbell was||
Recruiting wise, Campbell was the first name that popped into my head. Although, I don't know of any individual great WRs under his watch, his offenses always sling the ball around a bit.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Hate the neutral site games.||
Hate the neutral site games. Just takes everything that's fun about the college game and flushes it down the shitter.
Like scheduling these teams, just find a way to put them on campus. Theirs and ours.
I see as usual, Don said it much better. /\
|2 years 44 weeks ago||can't say enough about what||
can't say enough about what you all are doing. keep up the good work.
|2 years 44 weeks ago||Mike DeBord was horrific.||
Mike DeBord was horrific. That team won in spite of him. And if we are going to win with Borges here, we will have to do it in spite of him too.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||I'm fine with Hoke for a||
I'm fine with Hoke for a while longer, Borges... no comment. But this idea that we were to young and inexperienced to compete.. it's garbage.
Is Hoke not allowed to develop guys that he did not recruit? Who were the best players on the team? ALL RR recruits. And some of the guys that were torching the Hoke freshmen, sophmore, rs sophmores, and Juniors (yes Hoke did recruit many of those guys too) were also freshmen, RS freshmen, sophmores and Juniors.. but MAC level freshmen, RS freshmen and sophmores.
He came in with an iffy resume, he is delivering about what you would expect with that resume, but his excuses are getting stale. Need to see some serious improvement.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||What is the value of the level||
What is the value of the level of exposure that the top kids are getting by playing football/basketball at the University of michigan? How much would it cost Devin Gardner to buy an hours worth of airtime on ESPN, ABC, BTN every saturday all fall so he could advertise his "wares" to the people who might be interested in his services at the next level? Articles in the paper 2-3 times a week? special sports center stories.... ?
Any advertising or PR people want to chime in here.
|2 years 45 weeks ago||because in sports where the||
because in sports where the athletes are paid, the coaches and the administrators do not have bloated salaries?
|2 years 45 weeks ago||Everyone talks about how much||
Everyone talks about how much the player adds to the University's wallet, and they offset that value with the much smaller value of the scholarship, but how much does the team add to the player's wallet on top of the scholarship? Weighttraining was mentioned, job trainig? how about PR for the player, whats that worth? how much will Clowney make based on ESPN showing his hit on Smith over and over? How much will Barr from UCLA make based on all the pub he has gotten? What exactly is that worth?
|2 years 46 weeks ago||the US is rightly worried..||
the US is rightly worried.. but think of the teams that draw the US or mexico from our Pot?
Have lots of chances for one easy game and get us instead... that would suck.
|2 years 46 weeks ago||Should we withhold ecstasy||
Should we withhold ecstasy re: any player until they do something in the fourth win of a world series?
Miggy? Hasn't done anything yet... Verlander?... nope
Nathan has a long long track record of being a lights out closer including last year. No reason to not be excited about this one. More excited during the Tigers 4th WS win? sure.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||Rich Rod was right after all,||
Rich Rod was right after all, we all need to get a life. And Hoke agrees with him evidently.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||Because they have proven with||
Because they have proven with the uperclassmen we do have that they can totally "coach 'em up"? And because we are the only school in America starting 4 - second year players on O (all others with 3 or more years in the program)? Are those other teams averaging less than 35 yars of rushing, and less than 220 yards of total offense in their last 4, 3 of which are mediocre D's at best?
That is just garbage excuse making.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||Very happy for Pallante and||
Very happy for Pallante and his Family. I am also fine with the move.
But, he is also the type of kid that we had when our D's sucked and also the type of kid that state had when they were irrelevant and not a machine that turns no stars into the top D in the country.
Our players and coaches will decide which this is.. and we won't know for a lot of years.
|2 years 47 weeks ago||A majority of our players are||
A majority of our players are not first and second year players. Keep believing that and we will be having this conversation over and over and over.
|2 years 49 weeks ago||I have absolutely nothing of||
I have absolutely nothing of value to add other than the fact that Homer J Simpson one upped Charlton Heston when he reprised that scene in an episode of The Simpsons. I'd embed if I was smart enough.
|3 years 6 days ago||I hate to point out the||
I hate to point out the obvious, but if 389 is an unacceptable number for our O to have gained (and I believe that it is) Then 390 seems like an OK number to give up. Their D "stopped" us, so our D must have "stopped" them... right?
I would have liked to see more pressure brought late, 3 men rushing on the bomb to the corner was gut wrenching. There probably was not enough time to nickle and dime us to death at the end, bring the heat, stay behind the deep threats, and let him hit his hot read/checkdowns.
Also, a devin keeper as one of his last three plays on the botched pooch drive would have been nice.
Still, we will win one that we don't expect to before the end of the year. MSU? OSU?
|3 years 2 weeks ago||There was a what? Was this||
There was a what? Was this sent to your email? Never saw anything sent to me. That would be handy with all my travel.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||It's probably been talked||
It's probably been talked about, but, Why don't we have "equivalent cells"?
|3 years 2 weeks ago||Comments are way to nebulous||
Comments are way to nebulous to be considered anything but funny.
|3 years 2 weeks ago||James also played and was||
James also played and was good at it (compared to the general populace).
The boys are the right distance appart age wise for the their to be some looking up from Josh to James. To have a brother starting at UM when you are an 8th grader is huge. The Bars brothers were close in age, that tends to lead to some "blaze my own path, out of his shadow" type stuff.
|3 years 4 weeks ago||No current coach or player||
No current coach or player NEEDED to be punished at all... they CHOSE to be punished. The NCAA said they could all transfer free and clear and no new kid had to sign up to go there. it was their choice to stay, their choice to go, the coach's choice to go... They all knew what the deal was when they signed up.
And now you just have a new crop of people (same fans) in Happy Valley that view their football program as above punishment, and are crying to get it reduced or thrown out.
I have to agree with the keep the sactions folks. No punishment is too stiff against a university, program and culture that allowed THAT to happen.
Edit: I see Wahoo pointed this out below.. damn smart UVA peeps.
|3 years 4 weeks ago||In this make believe world of||
In this make believe world of yours, why did Sandusky "step down" in the middle of his career? Also, several people including the head football coach, Athletic Director and the President were told of horrid acts that he had committed by what should have been viewed as reputable sources.
|3 years 6 weeks ago||Just about to post this...||
Just about to post this... Oddly, Bo was right.
|3 years 7 weeks ago||39-17 UM||
|3 years 8 weeks ago||Godin and Wormley are tied||
Godin and Wormley are tied with the "or" disignation.
Your point still holds as this still surprised me.
|3 years 8 weeks ago||The whole Oline situation is||
The whole Oline situation is depressing?
Taylor Lewan doesn't think that "whole" means what you think it means...
|3 years 8 weeks ago||I didn't see that. I saw a||
I didn't see that. I saw a lot of folks giving him an at-a-boy for a 3:26 of very well played football. I did not see even a hint of anyone calling for a starting spot for him. There were even people still asking about a red shirt. And since none of us have seen him play yet, i'd say that is about the "just right" amount of reaction. But maybe that's just me.
|3 years 8 weeks ago||I saw lots of nice plays by||
I saw lots of nice plays by Stribling. Wilson had a nice knock away. And Shane tossing it 50-60? yards on a short drop was physically impressive even if it was into tight coverage.
|3 years 10 weeks ago||2 Years ago the Park won the||
2 Years ago the Park won the state title in the 12, 11 and 10 year old divisions. 3 in one year. Not bad for the smallest of the GP LLs.
|3 years 11 weeks ago||Question for you||
About how big is the pool of kids that you select your All-star team from? I ask, because I coach in a nearby small district to the mich team and our 12 went pretty far a couple years ago only to run into a couple teams that were much better than us. There is no way with our pool of talent to make it all the way to Williamsport, and if we did, well I would have to agree with you... Unfortunately. So I was just curios if it was mostly a numbers thing or just better players. Or a whole lot of both.
|3 years 12 weeks ago||I would never argue with||
I would never argue with Frito anyway, but in this case I agree with him 100%.
A couple local (to me) individual beer choices:
Atwater VooDoo Vader and Vanilla Java Porter (that's for the ladies)
|3 years 12 weeks ago||This is my favorite...||
This is my favorite... thought everyone needed to know.
Also, its been an hour, whats up with the rest of these 2015 kids??? HAHAHA
World domination make everything fun.
|3 years 13 weeks ago||hahaha, I was watching the||
hahaha, I was watching the game off DVR this morning.. and I got right to that particular crowd shot before I had to head to work and as I paused it I was thinking the exact same thing. Decent effort, but it is literally another country's flag.
|3 years 14 weeks ago||Beano Cook (RIP): "Michigan||
Beano Cook (RIP):
"Michigan should just send the band"
I enjoyed that game... a lot.
|3 years 15 weeks ago||The wings never "brought up"||
The wings never "brought up" DeKeyser. They signed him straight out of WMU with about 10 games to go and got him into the lineup ASAP.. in under a week if I remember correctly. A lot of Smith's playoff problems can be directly attributable to his D partner much of the time in Quincey. He would pass him into trouble more times than not. Tough spot to put a young Dman in, especially against a good team like Chi.
Cleary has to go, he is way too expensive for a 3-4 line checking forward. And there is no need to sign another player who would needs to be on the top 2 lines as those spots are all taken. The bigger concern for the wings would be eliminating some guys. Have to move 22, Sammi, and possibly Bert. Tatar has to come up (no options left and he would never clear waivers) and Helm looks like he may be healthy again. That gives us more than enough bodies to start the year.
Boyes is a guy that I wanted last offseason, and he sure would have look better than the guys we signed.. most of who didn't even play and all of whom we signed for more money and years. But, he may want a little too much now and unless he can be effective on a checking line (not sure as I have not seen him play lately) I just don't think he is a good fit for what we need.
If we add a D, I hope we ship out Quincey for him... that would be the old win win. If we sign a depth guy, please please be on a one year deal.
*I type so slow you already figured out the DeKeyser thing.... never mind that part.
|3 years 15 weeks ago||Tatar will be with the Wings||
Tatar will be with the Wings 100%. He has no more options, so unless he is part of a trade, he is in the bigs. Also, your list of guys are probably only 1 year out, which is why the 1 year deal for Alfie makes so much sense. Plus you have to add Riley Sheahan to the list.
Just saw Tampa signed Filpula. Nice move by Stevie Y. Now someone (not Detroit) just has to pony up for Cleary so I can sleep tonight.
|3 years 16 weeks ago||"And is anyone else noticing||
"And is anyone else noticing the Jets trying to make Michigan their pipeline? They drafted Serville in 2011, Trouba in 2012 and Copp in 2013."
Evidently, they have never talked to that Jackass from the kIngs.
Jets are moving up my "other teams to root for" list.
|3 years 16 weeks ago||That was my second thought..||
my first was, where is Tim Hardaways knit cap?
|3 years 17 weeks ago||Tebow could have had his shot||
Tebow could have had his shot at Hback TE any time he wanted. It took getting released, no team with any interest in him as a QB and several injury arrests for him to wisen up.. that is assuming he now understand this is his only shot.
|3 years 17 weeks ago||First thing I noticed too.||
First thing I noticed too. Not only is WS staying on O, but two big strong young athletes now can't play special teams together. Seems a little odd (the second issue, not so much the first).
|3 years 18 weeks ago||Does anyone know why we went||
Does anyone know why we went away from naming the cars with the "UM" at the end like the last car "Quantum"?
|3 years 18 weeks ago||I really hope Glendening||
I really hope Glendening makes it and based on his work rate I won't bet against it, But..
The wings have multiple higher rates prospects that are earmarked for lines 3 and 4. Just to name a few, Andersson is a #3 center. Callahan and Ferraro are also going to be those type of 2 way back of the lineup guys. Nice issue to have for the wings.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Hate to be that old guy....||
Hate to be that old guy.... Do you need to download the app to watch the videos? Are they videos that.. you know, move? Why am I so bad at the internets?
After you kindly answer, kindly get off my lawn! thanks.
|3 years 21 weeks ago||Tigers? He leads the Majors||
Tigers? He leads the Majors or is damn close in most every offensive category. He just needs to swipe a couple bases...
Bet he wins the Triple crown 2X in a row..
Damn you Bryan! Beaten to the punch.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||Win win... very good to||
Win win... very good to hear. In most cases I would be a little upset at UM missing out, but in the end its about the kids and Hector sounds like he has set himself up to succeed either way. Still, hope he sticks with UM and raises his draft stock to the first round while leading us back to the CWS. Just nice to hear he wins either way.
|3 years 22 weeks ago||Sounds like a great kid, and||
Sounds like a great kid, and a great story. I can't believe any gauranteed contract less than the value of the full ride or so would convince the family that UM is not his best option. What round would he have to get to to generate that kind of contract?
Hopefully the city kids start picking up baseball again. Any distraction or incentive to work toward seems to help these kids out. The more there are the better chance they have of making it through those tough years.
|3 years 23 weeks ago||have you seen the US roster?||
have you seen the US roster? There is a dude I have never heard of and have already forgotten his name... he is a 10 year pro and has about a dozen NHL games to his credit.
And the never to be mentioned Goalie is 19 and has ZERO NHL games... and his 1 pro game in the AHL was 40 minutes with 3 goals against.
We do have a couple good players, but the majority are no name dudes (Who are obviously playing very well).
|3 years 23 weeks ago||I hope both he and Marvin||
I hope both he and Marvin find their spot and get to contribute somewhere. But losing all these upper class guys gives me pause when thinking about how our special teams coverage performed a couple years ago when we were relying on lots of freshmen. Or injuries when we are relying on starters. Please please be unfounded concerns.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||I hope you give Louisville||
Crap, First double post. Just when I was giving props for how to post... ug. So here is part of the Pahokee to A2 connection instead.
|3 years 28 weeks ago||I hope you give Louisville||
I hope you give Louisville the double barrel salute before tonight's tip.
Also, +1 for actually knowing the posting rules.