at least it's not just us?
|1 week 2 days ago||Gus Malzahn => Bryan Harsin||
Gus Malzahn => Bryan Harsin => Al Borges. Talk about a drop off.
The most depressing thing about this: Al Borges would only get about $100K pay raise to make what Harsin made last year.
|1 week 2 days ago||Definitely an athletic kid||
Definitely an athletic kid who has shown flashes.
However, he hasn't picked up the ability to make his reads at the same rate of Ross and Morgan. As a result can play tentative, leaving him soft at the point of attack and unable to get adequate depth when he drops into coverage.
Thought he played his best game in Ross's absense against OSU, but the ILBs kinda got beat up in that game.
|1 week 3 days ago||Shifting the goal posts on||
Shifting the goal posts on the guy from "unbeatable juggernaut" to "top 20 team".
But they overcame a 20 point deficit against GaTech at GaTech once their backup QB got acclimated in his first start.
I think they are still a top-20 team.
|1 week 4 days ago||Ohio St finds themselves in a||
Ohio St finds themselves in a very similar situation as Michigan, personnel wise. The relative performance between the two teams will be the truest matchup between staffs yet.
|1 week 4 days ago||Hall was dressed and on the||
Hall was dressed and on the sideline, which I took to mean that he was ready in case Elflein didn't perform.
And explanation using the aggregate age of the interior line is a very nebulous explanation for this lines troubles. Maybe it effects the probability of the staff being able to put together a good line, but it doesn't supplant the obvious explanation that Miller, Bryant, Kalis, Magnuson, Bosch, and to a lesser extent Glasgow could not consistently perform the assignments they were given.
Meanwhile, Elflein and Decker can.
Although I should note that I suspect Elflein and Decker are getting much easier assignments from their coaching staff, as well.
Next year will be a good judge, as both OSU and Michigan will have 4-5 guys on their line from the recruiting class of 2012 or later.
|1 week 4 days ago||Gus has a flair for the||
Gus has a flair for the dramatic that suits him in basketball where exciting individual plays occur with some frequency.
In football, where big plays are typically well-orchestrated plays coming together in subtle ways, he reaches and sounds gimmicky, like with that "OMG WHAT A MOVE" he threw out during that long Miller run.
|1 week 4 days ago||I think Hall was in uniform||
I think Hall was in uniform because Meyer didn't make the decision until he saw what Elfein would do. It seems very much like he hedged the Hall punishment to protect himself.
Didn't work out for him anyways, and all is well that ends well.
|1 week 4 days ago||Apparently Pat Elfein did as||
Apparently Pat Elfein did as much to take that spot as Marcus Hall did to lose it. And Pat Elfein is a RS Freshman, which points to the real annoyance: OSU has turned two of their 2012 guys into capable starters, Michigan hasn't been able to pull it off with any of their 2011 and 2012 scholarship guys.
|1 week 4 days ago||Bollman/Warner putting up 34||
Bollman/Warner putting up 34 with that personnel at a neutral site really puts the 41 Michigan scored in a different sort of perspective.
|1 week 4 days ago||I wish it would be Hoke, but||
I wish it would be Hoke, but Dantonio is going to give Urban heart problems.
It would be a Saban acolyte.
|1 week 4 days ago||Shalique Calhoun was a 3*||
Shalique Calhoun was a 3* 2011 kid, just like Heitzman and Clark.
|1 week 4 days ago||Gotta be fair here, everyone||
Gotta be fair here, everyone of those guys have done as well or better than one would have expected given their circumstances.
|1 week 4 days ago||At this point, continued||
At this point, continued steady improvement makes him a pretty good player next year (he was a pretty good play already down the stretch). He came in raw, didn't redshirt, and he has undergone some massive growth in his three years at Michigan.
I would imagine he is just now getting to a place where he can focus on the sort of technique that takes a DL from good to great while having an understanding of his own physical abilities.
|1 week 4 days ago||Broken containment and a||
Broken containment and a playaction with an absolutely perfect pass and catch. Not all that novel or repeatable.
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm a non-alum that lives in GA||
So I guess its ok that I feel kinda crappy about this team.
|1 week 5 days ago||Players from that 2010 team||
Players from that 2010 team that ended up drafted:
Vincent Brown - WR - 2011 3rd Rd
DeMarco Sampson - WR - 2011 7th Rd
Ronnie Hillman - RB - 2012 3rd Rd
Miles Burris - LB - 2012 4th Rd
Ryan Lindley - QB 2012 - 6th Rd
Jerome Long - DT - 2012 7th Rd
Gavin Escobar - TE - 2013 2nd Rd
Leon McFadden - CB - 2013 3rd Rd
TCU had 8 guys drafted that was on that roster and they went 13-0. The Utah team that you are referencing went 12-0. SDSU had talent on offense, at least, to rival those teams that completely overwhelmed their opponents. They went 5-3 in conference and were the third highest-scoring team.
|1 week 5 days ago||That that play would have had||
That that play would have had no effect on the participants in the B1G Championship is a pretty strong indictment, however.
Devin completes that pass, and OSU is still the favorite against MSU and Michigan is still in the bottom half of their division, unfortunately.
|1 week 5 days ago||It certainly does||
It certainly does
|1 week 5 days ago||Take a look at their coaching||
Take a look at their coaching staff - it definitely isn't just Saban making that team a juggernaut on the field and recruiting. That staff includes Nussmeier, Smart, and Christobal who could all manage consistent double-digit win seasons at Alabama.
Could probably manage back-to-back 8 win seasons at Michigan, for that matter.
|1 week 5 days ago||"but he thinks he's 'going to||
"but he thinks he's 'going to go blue'"
Is that not the most pathetic recruiting quote ever?
Who cares how he phrases "commit to Michigan", I wanna know if that god-awful T-word, "thinks" is a direct quote. If not, what is?
If we have reached this point and he merely "thinks" he is going to commit to Michigan, momentum has swung way far away from Michigan at this point.
2014 is going to be another very tough season, considering the schedule, and Hoke really needs to make sure he stops the bleeding if he wants to last to see the upperclassman filled fronts he's been desperately needing.
|1 week 5 days ago||"I don't like people||
"I don't like people disagreeing with ME, though I'm fine with them disagreeing with someone else."
When the one disagreeing with you is a guy with his finger on the ban button calling you a hated, falsely-entitled jerk, maybe that is a valid statement.
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm not really sure about||
I'm not really sure about that.
1) The season did a lot to him. It wasn't the board that led him to stop charting with the Iowa game.
2) The board is easily avoidable, and I suspect that there are things we do not see that have contributed more than the board/comments.
3) Go back and read that picture pages that was mostly a very defensive and combattive response to Space Coyote. If anything, Space Coyote has been extremely respectful in an atmosphere where most have vehemently disagreed with him (including me).
4) And like I said earlier, there were valid complaints about putting interviews with HS soph on the front page of this blog, or soliciting interviews with high schoolers via text and posting them verbatim. Brian's response to them was a combative dismissal that basically added up to "Haters gonna hate".
I think Brian's disposition has effected this blog negatively, and is at least somewhat responsible for the issues he addressed in this post.
|1 week 5 days ago||That's exactly what I was||
That's exactly what I was thinking. Coaching rumors = "Holy crap, I may have totally misjudged the direction of this team!"
Its kinda scary, too, as the conference schedule looks much the same with the OSU and MSU road games, and the ND flipping back to South Bend. Big-time development is necessary to avoid another 8-4, 7-5 season.
|1 week 5 days ago||The trouble is he inherited||
The trouble is he inherited that overwhelming (for the MVC) offensive talent. And early indicators are not good at Michigan regarding offensive player development.
|1 week 5 days ago||My guess:||
Because Brian's mood for the last two months has been morose, negative, and combative and has posted a podcast and blog post with 500 posts about how the tenor of the board has become negative and combative.
Because Brian took multiple shots at one of the best commentors and most active members of the MgoBlog community that he had already banned with the note: "I hated that guy! For three years!"
Seems Brian's emotional state has a huge effect on the blog and board, so if you like either, you might be concerned with it.
|1 week 5 days ago||THIS is not the place to||
THIS is not the place to specify and resurrect a discussion that is not going to get any more resolution. I just think there has been more to certain controversies than "people just want to complain/don't like Brian".
|1 week 6 days ago||I think you might make things||
I think you might make things worse by going out of your way to belittle the people who are complaining and acting like they have no rational reason for being concerned.
|1 week 6 days ago||Kevin Dillman, I believe.||
Kevin Dillman, I believe.
|1 week 6 days ago||Completely agree. I don't||
I don't think Sills commits and wouldn't be happy if he did.
Perhaps this is a political offer?
|1 week 6 days ago||You are lucky that other jerk||
You are lucky that other jerk posted the comment about being glad Winston wasn't getting charged because he didn't want to see OSU play FSU without their starting QB, or this would be the douchiest comment I have read on here. And I haven't even watched a soccer match since the 1998 World Cup.
|1 week 6 days ago||This makes Kalen Ballage to||
This makes Kalen Ballage to MSU likely. Ugh.
|1 week 6 days ago||Agreed. The ethical hazards||
Agreed. The ethical hazards of reporting on the college choices of 14-18 yo kids have made for a lot of discussion on here.
Just saying that reporting often entails asking questions that the subject doesn't want to, or is really sick of answering.
I think, in this case, Brandon just showed us a picture of the pink sludge that goes into our Big Macs.
|1 week 6 days ago||Have you ever watched a Brady||
Have you ever watched a Brady Hoke press conference? If you aren't badgering, you probably aren't reporting.
And Brandon doesn't "Badger" he "Wolverines".
|1 week 6 days ago||Throwing my take on this on||
Throwing my take on this on the pile:
1) Malik knows the purpose of the conversation and knows who Brandon is. I think this sort of reporting may be a bit unprofessional generally, but I don't see anything unethical.
2) In this particular situation, the post comes in the context of a greater point about what causes Brandon to infer what he does about a recruit's mindset. In that sense, the details of the way the conversation played out has value above and beyond the what was conveyed. So I wouldn't even say this is particularly unprofessional.
3) That said, I think if I were Malik, I would find this annoying, and Brandon would probably go from one word answers to no word answers. For the sake of good relationships and securing future info, I would be overly cautious about letting recruits know about what you plan to do with their statements. On this one, don't think Brandon was.
|1 week 6 days ago||Even if Wormley drops down to||
Even if Wormley drops down to the 3-tech, where he'll be a part of a 4 player logjam of RS SO (gotta think Strobel would be locked in outside if it were the case), Michigan will have senior who is the returning starter, a RS Jr, who has been in heavy rotation for a year and a half, and a RS SO who apparently looked real good in fall camp.
95% chance he redshirts.
|2 weeks 1 hour ago||Your performance in that post||
Your performance in that post was worst than your avatars performance against Nebraska.
Did your keyboard simply fail to execute?
|2 weeks 1 day ago||UCLA is particularly||
UCLA is particularly difficult to judge, however.
The head coach of those teams was Bob Toledo, who had spent 10 years as an OC for Oregon and Texas A&M, and two years as the OC of UCLA before he got promoted to head coach and brought Al Borges aboard.
Plus, as good as 97 and 98 were, 99 and 00 were just as bad, and UCLA actually showed improvement after Borges left, and the 2001 Cal team he coached was a disaster.
So ultimately, there really is no telling what effect he had on UCLA was. Even if Toledo did give him a lot of control over the offense, the results were such a roller coaster that I don't know what to make of them.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I'm not sure you can expect||
I'm not sure you can expect Glasgow to make that block when he's matched up with a guy like Bennett who is shaded playside of him and immediately starts moving laterally towards the gap.
Like I said earlier, it seems the relative movement of Bennett and Bryant should lead to Kalis pulling and Green picking whichever side of Glasgow is more clear. I"m not sure if that is correct, however.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Hutson Mason, UGAs backup, is||
Hutson Mason, UGAs backup, is a RS Jr who threw for 300 yards/2TD/1 INT in his first start against a not terrible GaTech team. He only had about 40 yards and the interception before he started to get comfortable in the last two minutes of the first half. Plus we all know what Gurley can do.
That will be a real tough matchup.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||1. How ridiculous is it to||
1. How ridiculous is it to dog on the linebackers when the leading tackler is out for the game and replaced by a true freshman that had only seen limited time, and the LB who happens to be the best player on the team is 8 months removed from an ACL tear?
2. If the linebackers are getting swallowed up by the OL (which is four pretty good seniors and Tyler Decker), wouldn't that be an indictment of the DL, which was scrambling so bad due to lack of depth and size in the middle that Richard Ash saw his first meaningful snaps ever?
I suppose these guys generally know what they are talking about, but this is just plain BS.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||To me, Bryant is the second||
To me, Bryant is the second level guy and he hasn't moved an inch towards playside, so Kalis should be the one releasing. Bryant's complete indecisiveness may have messed with their assignments.
What I really don't understand, however, is why the exchange shifted from LG and C to C and RG even though the defensive front was the same.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||I'm not sure its fair to call||
I'm not sure its fair to call out Kalis for "10-man football" on that second one.
On both, Michael Bennett is shaded weakside (playside), engages Glasgow and pushes towards the gap the play is going to.
However, on the first play, Glasgow and Magnuson - who is the playside guard - pushes him back before Glasgow moves on to the second level. Magnuson is left with Hall two yards up field and perfect position to wall him off.
On the second play, Glasgow and Kalis - who is the backside guard - pushes Bennett back before Glasgow moves on to the second level. Kalis is left with Bennett two yards up field but Bennett has playside position on him.
So to me, the difference in the two plays comes down to Magnuson having a very easy assignment as far as keeping Bennett from collapsing the hole.
I assume that having Butt as an H in the former play, rather than Kerridge in the I explains the change in assignments.
The question I have (throwing up the Space Coyote signal here) is: is that an assignment you can expect Kalis, or any lineman, to be able to handle. It seemed formationally doomed.
|2 weeks 1 day ago||Where do you talk about the||
Where do you talk about the "extended handoff"?
When I watch the bubble screens to Funchess, the one where he hurdles Grant and the two where he gets stopped for a short gain and a loss, the footwork looks different from the snap compared to that first clip where he hands off to Green.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Meh. He recruits and gets||
Meh. He recruits and gets players that want an environment where this sort of action isn't really a problem. I think in the end, he will start feeling heart palpitations for it as it comes back to bite him. The B1G/NCAA may want to hit him with a punishment to protect their brand in the eyes of the fans, but I'm not going to sit in some moral judgment over not punishing a kid for flipping people off.
It isn't classy, but it isn't also doesn't have me thinking Hall is going to be shooting a guy in the head in a few years. Plus were all spending billions on a league that seems to specialize in teaching and reinforcing perverse ideals and morals.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I think it all comes down to||
I think it all comes down to a basic offense that assumes no improvement from the line over the offseason and relies a good bit on allowing Devin to make plays and pulls linebackers/safeties out of the box horizontally, until the line shows that it can get motion on a front seven straight up and can provide enough pass protection to allow for those over the top play action attempts.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I believe because Michael||
I believe because Michael Bennett was wise/lucky enough to wander into the middle of that huge mass of Michigan players gathered on the other side of the field when it was obvious he wasn't needed on containment.
By design, Devin takes a nonchalant route over there, which makes getting it to him over Bennett a pretty tough throw for a WR (albeit a high school QB). I'd rather have Gallon overthrow it being safe, than have him try to put a perfect pass and land it in fat guy's lap with end zone in front of him.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||ABSURDITY!This was probably||
This was probably the most impressive, exciting, and well-rounded performance the Michigan offense has put up in the Brady Hoke era. Stop it before the last 15 seconds and pretend something else happened, but watch this multiple times and pray it foreshadows wonderful things to come.
Seriously, that is like ~20 min of the best football a Michigan fan could watch.
What it, and then watch it again.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||IME, both sides look like||
IME, both sides look like they fully expected that pass to go to Dileo before the ball was snapped.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||Also, that 2-pt conversion||
Also, that 2-pt conversion play was doomed. He was locked on to Dileo and he has trouble recognizing guys undercutting from the middle of the defense.
Gallon may have come open before Devin got sacked, but it certainly looked like didn't care about anybody but Dileo there.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||And Abbrederis did have the||
And Abbrederis did have the misfortune of not having a catch against Indiana, since that game was over before Wisconsin threw a pass. He did still manage to have 83 rushing yards and two TD(!), however.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||How would you know if he is a||
How would you know if he is a good corner when he's allowed to be, if his coach doesn' t allow him to be?
#1 recievers against OSU this year:
Iowa only passed to tight ends, seemingly, but at least he did manage to shut down the top guy from Florida A&M and Purdue.
One thing though, are you sure Fickell wasn't insisting on a 20 yard cushion? Those are some pretty big YPC numbers there. Maybe if they get him closer to the line of scrimmage he will be able to handle Bennie Fowler.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||After||
-Responsibility for offensive improvement:
- Of the running backs, Fitz will stretch out the run the most when he gets to the second level, Green makes the most of what he is given, and Smith is the most likely to make something out of nothing. Of the three, Smith looked the best. Whatever kept him off of the travel roster a few weeks back, it seems the lesson was learned.
-Funchess is a phenomenal athlete, but he doesn't just occasionally get the drops, he seems a little mentally uneven in all aspects of the game. I would certainly not say he takes plays off, but it does seem like there are plays where his mind is elsewhere. Brainfart prone.
- The OSU DL looked good, but Michigan is a poor team to judge against. The linebackers and secondary, on the other hand are very exploitable. Roby and Shazier are the only two that really seem to be better than JAG, and they are basically just good at running people down.
- I hope its replicable but I can see reasons why it might not be.
- Nobody was probably more capable of helping this offense mask over some of its weaknesses than Drew Dileo, and having him healthy may have swung a game or two. He'll be missed.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||You aren't debating with me||
You aren't debating with me in good faith, anyways, and I'm sorry if it is because I was not very tactful in my response.
I never implied that Al Borges forgot how to gameplan or call plays. I simply argued that he he was calling a scheme that didn't suit his personnel, was slow in making adjustments, but finally found success when he finally made some substantial shifts in strategy.
The timeline is pretty clear. He spends fall camp and non-conference trying to iron it out, but by B1G play its obviously not working. He makes some minor adjustments that work against Minnesota, but Penn St. and particularly Michigan St. showed some major exploits, notably by loading the box and sending linebackers hard against the play action. Nebraska is the nadir. Against NW he unloads the box by attacking the flats and going wild with the fake bubble screen. Against Ohio State he goes full bore into spreading the defense horizontally and quick passes out the PA, most notably that play action screen to Gallon that started the game off.
So I would say we are actually judging the likelihood of two scenarios:
A OC who has been forced out of two of his last three positions has a bad season because he mismatches his scheme and personel, but pulls it together with good adjustments for a great final game.
Or the line is so mind-blowingly inconsistent that they spend most of the latter half of the season mired in incompetence, with the only front sevens they can handle being Indiana and OSU. One of those teams has 4 guys that will probably be playing on Sundays in their front seven, the other has 4 guys that probably shouldn't be playing in a BCS conference.
|2 weeks 2 days ago||SC, God bless you,||
But your narrative for the season has gotten absurd beyond reason right now.
I don't know how you can still manage to pin the struggles primarily on the team not properly executing, and not on Al Borges preferring a style that the offense had serious problems executing.
Are you actually trying to tell us that the playcalling style we saw against Akron, Northwestern and Nebraska was due to the offense not being able to execute Al Borges' gameplan and him altering what he wanted to do, and that the shift to OSU is because the offense managed to execute against them and Borges started calling the game how he wanted? You are telling me that the offense could manage to handle assignments against OSU that they couldn't against Akron or Penn State?
You gotta answer me:
Did the offense suddenly start "executing" and allow Borges to call the gameplan as he wanted, or did Al Borges shift his game plan in away that allowed the offense to start "executing"?
I think Borges and Hoke played exactly the type of football they wanted, "execution" problems be damned. I think we will see much of the same next year, with a one game better record.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Call me crazy, but it seemed||
Call me crazy, but it seemed like Lewan, of all people, was the guy who seemed to show up more in this game than he had in others. I believe he got out and made some great blocks leading the way for Gallon on the big screen early and a couple of those jet sweeps that really set the tone and put the OSU defense on its heels.
It does, however, seem like there wasn't much of emphasis on under-center running game in this one. They seemed to spread it out with the quick passes/screen game before really trying out the running game late in the second quarter.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I'm going to go with other,||
I'm going to go with other, although I think Hoke/Borges are probably both stubborn and probably both finally decided they needed to make some substantial changes.
However, those changes have actually been happening over the last few weeks, with the staff experimenting haltingly since Minnesota. I say "haltingly" because there has been a maddening refusal to continue along strategic paths. They would make a minor change, and instead of developing it into a new wrinkle the following week, they would run the same thing and fail miserably as the defense had made adjustments. There is a pretty clear path from the Northwestern game, where the offense used (actually overused) the bubble screen to open up the inside zone game they were wanting to establish. Against Iowa, it seemed like every run was preceded by the bubble fake, and it really went nowhere. Here they threw every play they had at OSU that could threaten the edge while using the under center handoffs as more of a change of pace, and even added another wrinkle to the fake bubble.
It did seem like the team did execute better than they have in the past, playing with a chip on their shoulder.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Had to stop real quick and||
Had to stop real quick and comment: I watched the postgame interview with Devin, and if you think you felt anything like he did after that game, you might need to get over yourself a bit. That was painful to watch.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||My problem with your||
My problem with your statement about the OL's experience this year is that it really didn't show up as this season went on. The performance against Iowa was really, really bad, and that was the 11th game of the season.
With this line regressing throughout the season, I find it hard to believe that spring and fall practices are going to yield a very good line next year. Especially when you are replacing apparently the only guys on the line that could block.
Something certainly wasn't right with the development of the OL, and whether that was Funk, or a combination of Hoke/Borges/and Funk, something really has to change with the coaching there.
I think there is good reason for alot of optimism about this defense next year, but for the offense expecting more than competence seems like wishful thinking at this point.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Awesome. Thanks Seth. In||
Awesome. Thanks Seth.
In this case, Hoke has some MAJOR thinking to do at this point. He's seen the results and can't be happy. But he also seems loyal and focused on the long game.
I'm not a Borges fan. However, I think Hoke keeps him and after seeing one offensive coaching staff get the axe before their personnel really blossomed, I won't be that upset, yet. (I can't really believe I said that)
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I am not particularly||
I am not particularly impressed with Borges' track record. The common refrain seems true, he calls a good offense with good talent, he flounders with less than good talent. In that sense, he may actually suck, simply because he is a piss-poor judge of what his offense is capable of doing on the field.
That's why this is an important question, did Borges misjudge badly, or was he not given much of a chance to go with some different choices. Furthermore, if we have a guy that is a good playcaller with talent, he may be rather successful in a couple years as his personnel starts to fulfill its recruiting hype.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Precisely what I'm getting||
Precisely what I'm getting at. Borges may be fairly inflexible and certainly put a bad offense together for most of the year, but there is no doubt that he is at least competent and knowledgeable.
I'm worried that Hoke may fire Borges thinking he incompetently implemented and called a sound strategy, rather than handicapped by a failed strategy.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Well, the problems I||
Well, the problems I described would show up on the field as a team that is out of sync and having lots of individual breakdowns.
That's kinda been the argument:
Borges side: The playcalling is sound, the kids just aren't executing consistently.
Detractors: The kids aren't executing because the playcalling is difficult for them to execute.
I'll wait for more analysis before saying this definitively, but the playcalling from saturday didn't look much like the playcalling from earlier in the season. The strategy seemed profoundly different.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||If I were to guess, I think||
If I were to guess, I think they believe the gains from the increased physicality would help win games right away.
I just think they way overestimated the benefits from gains in toughness, overestimated the actual toughness the team could gain, and underestimated how much it would cost the offense.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||I think you are certainly||
I think you are certainly correct in this, but I think you are correct because of the results. I couldn't really tell you what changes the coaching staff made that seemed to strangle Devin and the passing game.
I would say that going mass protect and cutting down on the number of receivers, rather than going with quicker and shorter routes, but I'm not sure how much that explains.
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Extraordinarily revisionistic||
Extraordinarily revisionistic view of last year, IMO. Especially considering your treatment of Borges following the game.
I've posted the highlights below. Nearly 10 minutes from the BTN. You'll notice that there are three offensive highlights:
1) Denard breaking a tackle in the backfield, then breaking a tackle 5 yards on, then finishing the run 30 yards down field.
2) 1The 75yd Roundtree TD reception
3) The OMG DENARD run where he gets sandwiched, then sprints to the end zone
4) A thirty yard reception by Gallon
Then there are at least a half-dozen highlights of OSU defenders blowing up plays in the backfield.
Borges didn't manage to call a single sustained drive all game long, there was the aforementioned blown coverage that Roundtree scored on, Denard making one of his signature runs, and then another TD drive where Michigan had a three and out, punted on 4th and 18, OSU fumbled and Michigan recovered on the 25, Michigan then went three and out again and had a roughing the passer call extend their drive, and then scored from the eleven.
Borges can't claim anything from that game.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||They were no more without||
They were no more without Denard than they were in the first half or the bowl game against USC. He had four carries for -2 yards in the second half against OSU because Borges didn't have a plan for getting him in the game once OSU adjusted (SHOCK!). Denard was on the field for 19 of the 51 plays Michigan ran that day.
And my point, as you know, is that if you take out the two big first half plays, Michigan had no offense. Those drives went for 3 plays for 83 yards and 2 plays for 75 respectively. The other 9 drives went for 46 plays for 121 yards, or 2.6 YPP. Only Miami (NTM) had fewer first downs and only that horrible Illinois team managed fewer yards against OSU in 2012. The defense did a great job of forcing OSU to settle for 5 FG attempts and forcing a fumble in the red zone, but the offense was worse than UAB, Cal, Purdue, and even that embarrassing MSU offense.
You should go back and look at your write up of the game, Borges' playcalling got a "WTF" and a "Play action BS", lamented how Borges didn't use Denard and Devin as he had against Iowa, called it Devin's worst game, and clamoring for Derrick Green due to the poor performance of the running backs.
What changed between then and now?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I would guess if Urban had||
I would guess if Urban had the personnel situation with specifically the Threet/Sheridan combination at QB, he probably would have had a lot of trouble in his first two seasons.
But I don't know what the point is. If you are asking what Urban could have done if this had been his first season as the Michigan head coach, I think somewhere between 10-12 regular season wins.
This team almost certainly has the skill position talent that last years OSU team had.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Why are people holding up||
Why are people holding up last year as some sort of great success?
Michigan had a TD pass for 75 yards and a TD run of 67 yards. Other than those two plays Michigan managed about 120 yards on the other 9 drives. The other scoring drive included a punt on 4th and 18 that OSU fumbled at their own 25, and that drive still required a roughing the passer on a failed 3rd down to get the touchdown. On the sixth second half drives, Michigan got 68 total yards and 4 TO (one on downs).
It was much like this year's Iowa game, a domination everywhere but the scoreboard.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||It is relevant because having||
It is relevant because having four abysmal games and one really good one does not make for a fully operational offense. A fully-operational offense wouldn't leave us so clueless as to what to expect in the bowl game.
And like I have said a couple times, he wasn't commenting on Michigan's offense, he was talking about OSU's, who was repeatedly gashing Michigan up the middle with a 240lb bruiser.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not going to track down||
I'm not going to track down the quotes because the forum is messing up on chrome for me for some reason and you have google, but there were two main opinions that were completely blown out of the water Saturday (if not completely refuted earlier):
1) Two part idea: A) The pro-style makes an offense more physical up front running the ball, B) facing a pro-style offense in practice makes a defense more physical up front, and alternately, facing a spread offense makes it weaker.
2) Spread quarterbacks take too much of a beating when you run them.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Also coming back to||
Also coming back to this:
Michigan itself was selected over a couple of other teams higher ranked in the BCS poll. It was then matched up against VaTech who was even more of a reach. Then in the game VaTech managed to outgain Michigan 377-184 in what was a brutally poor football game for at least 3 quarters. Then Michigan wins because a TD gets overturned when it probably shouldn't have.
Maybe it wasn't embarrassing, but it wasn't pretty.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||The point is that both Hoke||
The point is that both Hoke and Borges have repeatedly expressed their opinion that the spread makes you weak on offense and defense and that you can't be physical or tough out of the spread.
Urban Meyer came in with a bunch of maulers, lined them up in the spread, and beat Michigan's brains in.
They seemed to be fundamentally wrong about what the spread allows a team to do, as well as what a pro-style offense prepares the defense to stop.
Hoke and Borges has been spouting this for a few years now. Its hardly secret.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Can't say I understand what||
Can't say I understand what you are saying in that first sentence.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||http://www.usatoday.com/story||
"I believe there's a physicality that comes with pro-style offense that doesn't come with other offenses. ... A lot of it is how you coach it. You can be a pro-style team that throws every snap and you're not going to have a lot of physicality with that. We don't have that philosophy."
|2 weeks 4 days ago||And also, it was in the||
And also, it was in the context of OSU flat out slamming the football down Michigan's throat.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Remind me, can you||
Remind me, can you retroactively assign some of the points and yards against OSU to the MSU, Nebraska, NW, and Iowa games to make them less of a shit storm?
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Well, the whole OSU will||
Well, the whole OSU will likely play in the MNC while Michigan will be in the annual matchup of disappointing programs for a TV ratings grab is a result that matters to me, but I suppose keeping The Game close is important too.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not saying Michigan's||
I'm not saying Michigan's offense didn't perform well. It obviously did.
I'm saying that OSU did what the opponents of spread offenses (what beleaguered few there are) - including the current staff - said a team couldn't do, and they won in the process.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Complete BS about wanting||
Complete BS about wanting Hoke fired. Brian has been pretty consistently positive about Hoke and seems to like Hoke's demeaner, aggressive style, and recruiting prowess.
And while I'm sure Brian would like to see a more "interesting" brand of offense played, he has been fairly enthusiastic at times about what he thought Borges was building as an offense in ways that were not like a RichRod spread team, memorably the recruiting and use of tight ends and the switch to big linemen over the spread guys RichRod recruited.
I do believe there is some of Brian's affection for spread offenses coming through, but I don't think there is much of it whatsoever if this staff (and the program in general) didn't hold horribly stupid and outdated beliefs about spread offense, and oppose implementing its components into the offense to the detriment of the team.
And two things you said that strike me as silly:
1) Michigan has been to one BCS bowl game since 2006 and didn't deserve to be in that one (and managed to pull out one of the most embarrassing victories I had seen - until UConn/Akron). Michigan has had more losing seasons in that period than BCS appearances. This team was closer to a losing record than a BCS appearance. This team is so far short of "BCS every year" that we have no idea what might feel acceptable short of that level of success. I propose once every three or four years, without being sandwiched around 5-6 loss seasons.
2) You start out this comment by saying that Brian would be happy with a team that sucked but ran his preferred style, but then say that there is a "just win, baby" tone to his coverage. Pick one or the other.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||What you say is basically||
What you say is basically true in a way. But since Urbs came to OSU, they are 16-0 on the field in the B1G, Michigan is 9-7. That's a bit of a chasm.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Sorta guessing here, but||
Sorta guessing here, but Brian has seen this team stay stagnant since 2007 at least, and where he endured through RichRod as there seemed to be a real attempt to move this program forward during those years, he doesn't have the same hope now.
As such he has emotionally tuned out the team. Some folks have responded by calling him a fairweather fan who bails on the team when it loses.
A very hollow criticism considering how much he devoted to the RichRod teams.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||I'm not entirely sure what||
I'm not entirely sure what the tweet said, but if you think Michigan was killing it with 35 rushes for 152 yards (4.34 ypc), I wonder how you would describe OSU's performance at 46 rushes for 393 yards.
When you staunchly oppose a spread attack on the opinion that you need an under-center, pro-style attack to have a controlling ground attack, and then your rival with a spread offense puts up 8.5(!) ypc on 46(!!!) carries right in your face, it kinda makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about.
That is not directed at you, btw, just the folks that Brian probably feels like he has been at war with since 2008.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Pot kettle black. Brian and||
Pot kettle black. Brian and others did not "give up on the team". They certainly extremely frustrated with the direction - or nondirection - of this ossified dinosaur of a program that has failed to keep up with college football.
They are also extremely frustrated with those who make comments about how "you shouldn't give up on the team when they lose lots". Especially when you are talking about guys like Brian who suffered through the worst of the RichRod years with hope and dedication.
This game, where Michigan played its most complete game of the season and still lost at home to Ohio State (who was far from taking Michigan seriously at all) only reinforces the fact that Michigan is far closer to Iowa as a program than OSU. It also reinforces the denialism of those who don't have a problem with the general direction of the program as it becomes The Iowa Up North.
But hey, maybe we should be satisfied with moral victories now and wait to see if the predictions of Michigan being able to compete with OSU in 2015 come true.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Just watched his post game presser||
Bout made me wanna cry. Kid is devastated, but absolutely should not be.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Points:||
1. Is there another team-devoted blogger, let alone a Michigan-devoted blogger who goes to further lengths to spell out and explain his opinions for everyone to understand/critique? I see people talk about how Brian never played football and doesn't know what he's talking about and how he is biased towards the spread, and then I see people disagree with him on Picture Pages and UFRs. But unsurprisingly the groups don't coincide at all.
2. The folks who are now able to ignore that this team went 3-5 in the B1G and finished second to last in the division, because Michigan only lost by one at home to OSU remind of the famous Dumb and Dumber "Totally Redeem Yourself" scene.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||On the 2 pt conversion -||
On the 2 pt conversion - Perry is not a good linebacker, especially so on coverage. Devin has struggled with that sort of route all year long. I think OSU had a pretty good idea where that was going, and wouldn't have made that play otherwise. Liked the playcalling on the whole, but didn't like that one.
Draining the clock when your QB is playing one of his best games of the year - probably the best - was a terrible decision. Turned out to mean a lot in this game.
On Al Borges - No one has ever really questioned that Al could call a good game if everything goes his way. Understanding what he has and building a coherent offense that maintains competency. Now we probably have to suffer through a half decade of missing the B1G Championship.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||I don't think there has been||
I don't think there has been one since 1961 where it seemed to be so lopsided.
For me, I think the offense manages one good drive where Borges pulls out a wrinkle that works. OSU makes defensive adjustments and the offense sputters.
The defense keeps it respectable in the first half, but the interior starts to get beat up pretty bad, and the secondary starts to get desperate - leading to multiple breakdowns in the second half.
17-10 at half, 38-13 Final.
|2 weeks 6 days ago||At least he is||
At least he is underestimating the defense. It may be a three-quarter game, but that's likely because OSU goes up by two touchdowns in the third, and that is insurmountable.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Some folks are desperate to give the man a free pass.||
To me, Borges seems to be taking responsibility for not being about to figure how to keep his players from sucking.
That seems to be a pretty shallow acceptance of responsibility.
He even undermines that by implying that the player's suckiness is a matter of desire in that last answer.
I mean, how much responsibility is a coach taking when he bookends the presser with "Too much 10 man football" and "But if this team wants to show up and go, I think we can play with anybody"?
Do the people sticking up for his response actually think he is responsible for the team playing "10 man football" and not wanting to show up? How do you suppose he thinks he can fix those problems?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||There is simply no good||
There is simply no good answer to that question.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Borges can call a great||
Borges can call a great game. He doesn't seem to make adjustments well, but when things go right for him, the offense can consistently move the ball for an entire game.
What makes me pessimistic about this game is how gutted this team seems. The offensive line was still swapping guys out last week, Devin seems to be more beat up and in a bad mental state than ever, and the defense looks to be getting creakier every week now.
This season hasn't just been a struggle, it has been a grind.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||That Michigan has won, of||
That Michigan has won, of course.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Notre Dame and Wisconsin||
Notre Dame and Wisconsin finished #2 and #5 in the final Coaches Poll, respectively.
Michigan finished #19 after winning a New Year's Bowl 42-7.
Side note, that Michigan coaching staff was something. Assistants included Lloyd Carr, Cam Cameron, Les Miles, Jim Herrman, and Greg Mattison.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Seriously. Are you just||
Seriously. Are you just throwing records out, or do you actually believe this team is as good as those four teams?
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Well, look on the bright||
Well, look on the bright side. If anybody on the offense can't pick up the line call and doesn't know their assignment, he can just ask the guy across from him what he should do.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I suppose anything can||
I suppose anything can happen, but those were all pretty good Michigan football teams.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Actually, I said I don't feel||
Actually, I said I don't feel bad about people calling him a stupid fat ass. THat seems the most common insult.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||At those stops: 1) That 2010||
At those stops:
1) That 2010 SDSU team had 6 future NFL guys that I can think of starting on offense. In the MVC.
2) That Auburn team was Borges' first year there and had overwhelming talent. The offense declined sharply afterwards, ultimately resulting in Borges getting resigned.
3) That UCLA team put up great offensive numbers in Borges first few years, that Borges couldn't replicate in 99 and 00 with Cory Paus at QB. One big consideration here is that UCLAs head coach, Bob Toledo, was promoted from offensive coordinator in 1997, and had been a OC for a decade prior. How much of 97-98's success was orchestrated by Toledo and how much was orchestrated by Borges is an open question.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||What simplification there has||
What simplification there has been has been completely undermined by several coaching moves:
1) Constant shuffling of personnel
2) Shuffling and introduction of new formations
3) The nature of the offense seems to have caused the simplification to cause formation to be huge tip offs for the defense.
#3 is more speculation, but the first two are spot on. He goes in the press conference complaining about the guys not playing "in-sync". Well, coach, you've had three LG, two centers, and three RGs. You have bounced around the star and leader of your OLine to TE and H-Back. Wonder why the kids aren't playing in-sync, even this late in the season.
It is of note that the defense can't just seem to let things be either, so it goes above the offensive coordinator. Hoke may be a bit panicky at this point.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Just sayin'. The start of||
The start of this particular thread was a guy saying he wished Borges was a jerk so he would be easier to get rid of and a response that Borges doesn't need his sympathy. Add to that all the people saying he looks broken and what not.
He's a 58 year old man getting paid 700K to coach football who isn't actually a Michigan fan - at least beyond how big of fans any of us might be of our employers.
I think all this sympathy flowing his way is a projection from beat down Michigan fans rather than an accurate judgment of how badly he is hurt by a bunch of anonymous assholes on the internet.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Several factors here: 1)||
Several factors here:
1) Most importantly, that was a 6-7 OSU team that had basically started circling the drain. That was the third of a four game losing streak for OSU that year.
2) The offensive line was decent to good. It included Molk and Lewan, who were great, and Schofield, Omameh, and Huyge who were all serviceable.
3) Denard had learned to run alot of that style of offense under RichRod and was brilliant during that game. It was the high point for his passing, and there were at least two TD drives where most of the yards came on 40+ yard Robinson runs. Devin Gardner is now a far cry from that Denard, and Borges does try to call a different game with Devin at the helm.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||For taking more blame than||
For taking more blame than ever, I heard alot about "individual breakdowns". In fact, in the first answer he used the phrase at least three times.
And of course this was referenced before, but at the end he says: "We play poorly at times, I'm the first one to tell you that. But when this team wants to show up and go, I think we can play with anybody."
It seems pretty obvious to me that he lays the blame for this teams performance on the players, and if I were to guess, he would probably consider the necessary changes going into the bowl and next season amounts to "finding better players".
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I bust my hump every day||
I bust my hump every day doing something far less awesome than coaching football for far less money than 700K.
If all I managed was complete incompetence, I would be catching hell from several bosses and wondering what day I would be losing the insurance for my wife and baby boy.
Being nasty about the guy isn't called for, but I certainly ain't feeling bad about a bunch of internet posters calling him a stupid fat ass.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Two things||
1) The dysfunctions have gotten worse over the last six weeks, but one would hope six weeks would be enough time to correct the dysfunctions to a degree, or certainly minimize their impact. Seven weeks was enough for Dantonio and Co. to get MSU from a point where they couldn't score against USF and WMU to a point where MSU could dominate Michigan. We have seen teams in this division either make huge strides over the course of the season with less talent - MSU and Minnesota - or maintain a decent level of performance despite being ravaged by injuries - Nebraska.
2) You cannot say that this staff provides no insight and then turn around and say that the media and fanbase tears it up. This staff has been famously closed to the public since Hoke got to Michigan. And at the start, Hoke bought himself a tremendous amount of leeway by saying the right things/generally not being RichRod. What's more is that everyone was more than willing to place Denard's regression as a passer on Denard. Now that we see a complete hollowing out of Devin as well, Borges doubles down on the "These players need to quit screwing up and want to show up" insight.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||sanity glasses?||
i believe they are called "blinders"
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Michigan threw the reliable||
Michigan threw the reliable center on this roster under the bus.
We all took Jack Miller for granted.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||I have not noticed Borges||
I have not noticed Borges really trying to "implement a system" as much as he is calling a grab bag of plays he expects to gain yards.
If he were implementing a system, he would be able to make it work at least somewhat with less than optimal personnel, as the nature of the system itself would be good for yards.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Last year, definitely. The||
Last year, definitely. The prior year, Robinson and Molk.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Denard should be counted as a||
Denard should be counted as a factor in determining why the last two offenses were somewhat capable, rather than a factor in determining why this offense is a tire fire.
To say "offense without Denard" is a cause of this year's struggles is like saying "defense without Woodson" explains some of RichRod's failure.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Estimating, where would you||
Estimating, where would you rank this offensive lines performance/"execution" out of BCS teams?
Bottom three? It seems like the Michigan has to be very, very close to the bottom in terms of results with regards to pass pro and rushing.
To get the sort of production Michigan is getting with what you consider good playcalling, you must also believe that Michigan has the worst personnel along the line in the nation.
|5 weeks 2 hours ago||This staff has me more than a||
This staff has me more than a little terrified that that is a true assertion.
But it may not matter. I don't think you start making absurd comments about how Alabama education = Michigan education unless you are Alabama bound.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||There is a lot of obvious||
There is a lot of obvious frustration in what is pretty much an explicit response to SC.
However, none of that quote is particularly untrue, and it seems pretty strange to say that "my feel is no worse than his", unless you come from a default position where we should just accept that SC does have a better feel.
Do you think that SC necessarily has a better feel for what Borges and this Michigan offense is doing?
I give SC a lot of credit for knowing what he is talking about, but I can think of at least one disagreement between the two where hindsight has proven Brian correct and SC very, very wrong.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||1) Is the main difference||
1) Is the main difference here is that Brian thinks Butt picked up his designated assignment and you think he messed up? There are a lot of examples of Michigan assigning a blocker to the option guy, which is what Butt is doing here.
4) The primary cause of failure - Kerridge's block - is probably not practiced much. And Devin is having a lot of trouble with reads, which is not a part of the typical base, but of the utmost importance here.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||One last question: could a||
One last question: could a scrape exchange in this formation involve the slot guy crashing down on the QB with the SAM swinging around as a free tackler on the HB should there be a give?
|5 weeks 1 day ago||I watch the slo-mo replay||
I watch the slo-mo replay Brian posted, and to me it looks like he isn't blitzing off the snap. To me it looks like he reads run post snap and takes a couple steps upfield with his eyes on Kerridge before making a beeline for the mesh point. The middle linebacker seems to get out of his stance and heading playside before the slot guy does.
He gets even with Butt at the line about the same time Fitz reaches the mesh point and dives toward the inside, avoiding a lunging Kerridge and forcing Fitz to start dancing before Devin even pulls.
It just doesn't look like a pass blitz to me.
I also wonder what in the world Devin is reading that makes him pull. That slot LB maybe? Because there is no space in the line but a gap filled by the weakside linebacker. Whether he stumbles or not, he's not getting more than a yard or two.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Plays are not called in a||
Plays are not called in a vacuum, and play calling is not the sole duty of an offensive coordinator. If an OC's function was to string together theoretically sound plays, without regard for the abilities of the players or past results, Michigan wouldn't have to pay theirs $600,000 (highest in the B1G for OCs by a chunk). There would be litterally 10's of thousands of qualified candidates to choose from.
As one of the highest paid coordinators in the nation, he should be able to make his limited resources work, rather than managing complete ineptitude even when faced with a terrible opponent (as Nebraska's defense is).
|5 weeks 1 day ago||To me, the play of that slot||
To me, the play of that slot LB is insane defense. Kerridge expects him to play sane defense and be the force. We he comes screaming in directly at the play, it blows every thing up.
Butt may or may not have taken the wrong guy. What he does seems to make sense in the context of how Michigan has blocked the last few years, as they have almost always chosen to block the option guy. Here it almost works, as a good Kerridge block give Toussaint loads of space and the linebackers are likely caught up in the wash as they move down the line.
So ultimately this hinges on Kerridge not being able to get a block on a defender who makes an unexpected (for good reason) play. That leads me to three possibilities.
1) Nebraska got really lucky with the blitz call. Prior to MSU and Nebraska basically "getting lucky" with almost every single defensive call they made, I would chalk this up to luck. Now, that would just be too many coincidences.
2) Nebraska called the blitz pre-snap with a good idea of what was coming.
3) That slot linebacker had been coached up to undercut Kerridge when reading the inverted veer because Borges/Kerridge had put that tendency to run wide on the block on tape.
My guess is three.
Does this sound reasonable?
|11 weeks 4 days ago||Absurdity!||
Saying a recruit looks like he is 12 is more ethically dubious/potentially harmful to a player's recruitment than direct solicitation of interviews from 15 yo over social media?
Are you serious?
This destroyed several years worth of built up good will, and now I will have to process everything I read that Brian has wrote through the understanding that he once held that position.
|36 weeks 6 hours ago||Maybe I'm a jerk, too, but if||
Maybe I'm a jerk, too, but if you only paid attention to Burke down the stretch, you could get the impression he's a volume shooter. From the Indiana game through the NC, Burke averaged 17ppg on 15.4 shots, shooting at a 37% clip.
|41 weeks 3 days ago||Its from the German national||
Its from the German national anthem, and predates Nazis by roughly a century.
|44 weeks 6 days ago||He's a collossal douche||
He's a collossal douche because he takes a job at OSU, recruits well, and thinks that entitles him to tell all the other coaches how to recruit.
Tell him to go through a couple recruiting cycles with IU, Iowa, Minnesota, etc. and get back to us on his advice.
He's also a megadouche because he is publically denouncing the performance of the B1G.
|45 weeks 3 days ago||IMO, Dick Vitale is what the||
IMO, Dick Vitale is what the kids call a "Tryhard".
His enthusiasm seems like an insincere addon. Maybe it's true of Johnson and Rafferty too, but Vitale just seems to be a big screaming trademark every game.
|1 year 1 week ago||Mountain Goats Killer song||
|1 year 5 weeks ago||Brady wanted to celebrate||
Brady wanted to celebrate with that cop so bad. If that cop had been paying attention, he may have lost an arm in the ensuing high five.
|1 year 6 weeks ago||"We didn’t have a lot of||
"We didn’t have a lot of targeting issues, missed assignments and such. We’ve only had one game where I thought that was an issue, and that was Notre Dame, but since then -- you always have a couple, and everybody always has a couple. But I don’t think it was mental. I think the biggest thing we have to do a better job of is finishing our blocks. We’re getting bodies on bodies for the most part, and I’m talking more about the running game than anything else, but getting through and winning that gap. We always talk about winning gaps. You’re responsible for knocking this guy out of that gap or moving him enough so that the back can read it -- we have to win that gap. We just have to do a better job of winning those gaps, getting those plays started, and giving our tailbacks a chance to go.”
I really wonder what Brian thinks about this.
|1 year 15 weeks ago||With those forced fumbles||
With those forced fumbles studies, did anyone isolate for coaching changes?
|1 year 15 weeks ago||With those forced fumbles||
With those forced fumbles studies, did anyone isolate for coaching changes?
|1 year 18 weeks ago||MgoQuestions that don't||
MgoQuestions that don't reference the bubble screen should now include the word "cute".
Ultimate question: Is the bubble screen to cute of a play?
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Mario is listed at 231lbs on||
Mario is listed at 231lbs on the most recent roster. He's adding weight quick.
|1 year 19 weeks ago||Something tells me Brian||
Something tells me Brian Kelly was one of the early birds in State College, waiting outside the athletic facilities.
|1 year 28 weeks ago||Those ratings are an absolute||
Those ratings are an absolute joke.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Dennis Norfleet is very||
Dennis Norfleet is very different because Michigan didn't very publicly recruit four or five 5'9" scat backs before settling on Norfleet. Norfleet was a luxury that Michigan could afford once offers at other positions fell through.
Mike McCray has fairly obviously been relegated to Meyer's fourth or fifth choice at linebacker, and he certainly deserved better.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||they're still in good||
they're still in good position for VA RB Derrick Green—who was profiled this week on ESPN.com—and TN RB Jordan Wilkins
What are you calling good position?
|1 year 34 weeks ago||I wish you hadn't pointed out||
I wish you hadn't pointed out Brandon Moore's route running on play 7. Let me have my blissful ignorance.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||One Word: Mavis Beacon||
One Word: Mavis Beacon
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Gotta say that isn't really||
Gotta say that isn't really strong defense of Gardner on that TD pass. It may have landed where it was supposed to be that motion was bad.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Hoke is obviously not really||
Hoke is obviously not really liking Omameh's performance this spring, and Chris Bryant isn't getting mentioned at all. These incoming freshmen are gonna get a real long look in the fall.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||What's the word on Chris||
What's the word on Chris Bryant? I haven't heard a word about him in these spring pressers.
I was expecting him to find a starting spot this year, and all I'm hearing is Elliott Miller and Joe Burzynski.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||I'm not sure how much||
I'm not sure how much interest is there from Michigan. I think his big offers might be to play along the line. Not sure about that.
Kenton Gibbs out of Cass Tech would probably jump at an offer and he has been on campus, but he doesn't have any BCS offers yet.
|1 year 36 weeks ago||Poggi is a 3-tech/SDE, Greg||
Poggi is a 3-tech/SDE, Greg Webb was being recruited at the nose.
If Crayton and Webb are out of the picture, I'm not sure who's up next at the nose.
|1 year 37 weeks ago||I have seen his recruiting||
I have seen his recruiting updates referenced on other sites, and they seem to have gone a long way in convincing more than a few people that Ty Isaac is in the bag for the Blue.
While I don't think it warrants shutting down the updates, I can understand why RDT is afraid of the possible backlash. Ty Isaac still seems a good deal away from a Michigan commitment, if it ever comes. And if it doesn't come, he would be breaking some hearts.
|1 year 38 weeks ago||I seem to remember a recent||
I seem to remember a recent Borges interview where he specifically said that the roll outs were a mistake, that teams would look for the rollouts and pin them up against the sideline, and that he was handicapping Denard by not letting him step up under the pass rush.
I find it hard to believe we will see a lot of Denard bootlegs this year.
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Worst missed goal tending I||
Worst missed goal tending I have ever seen.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||"You can grub grub grub about||
"You can grub grub grub about will to win and finding ways to win and winning is for winners; I don't buy that stuff."
Even when dealing with a team captained by Novak and Douglass?
You've spent the last couple of months reiterating just how much this team as a whole and as individuals overachieves. This team is remarkable for its ability to overcome deficiencies in size, athleticism, and skill to just make it work.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Yeah, but you got 15 less||
Yeah, but you got 15 less scholarships to work with on NCAA 2012
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Mind you're own business.||
Mind you're own business.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Penn State is on a roll and||
Penn State is on a roll and just landed a big time QB in Christian Hackenberg. They are looking real good right now for Breneman.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||We all know how close Dymonte||
We all know how close Dymonte is to his cousin, but his brother also attends OSU. Dymonte told aquaman that he may visit OSU but it would be for family over.
So don't be shocked if pictures show up of Dymonte standing on Ohio's sideline during a game at some point during the season.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||I don't think he has, and||
I don't think he has, and with his relationship to Brionte, I don't think he will.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||That sounds like a pretty||
That sounds like a pretty accurate discription of the situation.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||I'm not so sure I like that||
I'm not so sure I like that attitude. There's a fine line between being confident in one's future and taking success for granted.
Stay grounded Royce, worry about your professional opportunities when you reach that point.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Yeah, could pull three LB||
Yeah, could pull three LB from there, am I correct?
Also, Jayru Campbell looks to be a stud too, but I don't know if Michigan would look at him at QB. Have you heard anything on that front?
|1 year 42 weeks ago||And that's the end of that||
And that's the end of that chapter.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||McCray is 6'4/240 I believe.||
McCray is 6'4/240 I believe. Like Taco Charlton he's an enourmous high school linebacker who could naturally develop into a DE.
I don't think he takes a spot away from the likes of O'Daniel and Levenberry.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||No. There has been a sort||
There has been a sort of "All aboard Team 134" vibe to Hoke's recruiting. He seems to be pitching this from the "This team will be tremendous, and I hope you (recruit) take this opportunity to be a part of that." This protects the value of Michigan among recruits by putting the program first, after all this is Michigan, fergodssakes.
Breaking away from explicitly stated team needs because of a special talent degrades the value of committing to Michigan.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Yeah, I did mention the||
Yeah, I did mention the defenses struggles to get off the field (although they were really, really good at getting off the field in a hurry against good offenses, just not in a good way).
The problem with the FEI is that we are not looking to see if this offense was effective, we all know it was. The question is whether RichRod's offense did suffer from a lack of adjustment to defensive strategies, and to do that you need to break it down into a series, rather than looking at aggregate data.
For example, I don't think the FEI is going to give a full picture of a Michigan offense that, for example, had two 75 yard TD drives in the first quarter against Mississippi State, yet didn't score again for the rest of the game. That team was feast or famine, and I don't think the FEI showed that.
I don't think anyone is saying that offense was the problem, but there are plenty of reasons to think that RichRod could have gotten better results, or at least more consistent results.
A team that can alternate between devastatingly effective to devastatingly inept over the course of a single game, let alone the course of a season, likely has some major flexibility problems.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||If you look at the by quarter||
If you look at the by quarter scoring breakdowns for Oregon's and Michigan's 2010 seasons, a really big peice of evidence shows up.
Oregon scored 21 points in 9 quarters that season, and if you take out the 4Q, had only 5 scoreless quarters. The sampling is a little too small for this, but roughly Oregon had two huge scoring quarters for every quarter where they were shut down.
Michigan scored 21 points in 5 quarters that season (two TD or more in 15 quarters), but got shut out in 13 quarters.
To me this indicates that yes, it was a high power offense (not on par with Oregon but close to it), but also an offense that would get shut down often. That would imply to me that RichRod did have a bit of a problem of adjusting his offense to keep ahead of defenses.
Also, if you count ND, conference and the bowl game, the disparity gets huge:
9 quarters with 14 points or more, 13 quarters where Michigan was scoreless.
Michigan had a defense that couldn't really get off the field at times and they were prone to turnovers, but when you have an offense that fluctuates so severely between overpowering and inept, you have to look at the way coaches are adjusting.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Well for me, building the||
Well for me, building the program is as big a part of the fun as playing the games.
I like the idea of everyone being a member of the same conference, but I would expect it to be a bit of a problem for those who ended up with Minnesota, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue and the like. I figure the retention rate for players controlling those schools would be extremely poor.
My mind can be changed on this.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I was thinking every couple||
I was thinking every couple of days, but if some folks can't get through their week in that amount of time, I would expect it to be very flexible.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||Would 6 minutes be more||
Would 6 minutes be more realistic?
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I get the concern, but there||
I get the concern, but there hasn't been a point where this board has been overrun by dynasty threads, and there are currently a half dozen OT threads on the front page as it is.
Plus the other one ran its course.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||BKPotts is my gamer tag if I||
BKPotts is my gamer tag if I can get in this one. If not, I'll just start a new thread and commish a league.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I seriously want to get into||
I seriously want to get into one of these online dynasties, but don't want to waste my time jumping into random ones that never advance.
Somebody help me out here.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||I thought that same thing,||
I thought that same thing, but I have seen absolutely nothing about him playing on the offensive side of the ball.
His basketball skills apparently make him pretty good in coverage out of the LB position he plays in high school. If he adds 30-40lbs, he could end up as a prototypical SDE for this defense.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Urban's gonna implode. He's||
Urban's gonna implode. He's gonna be the anti-RichRod. He's gonna have troubles because he is clueless of the position he just stepped in, but where RichRod's sin was naivete, Urban's undoing will be brazen arrogance.
Not a surprising difference though, when you consider that one was a BMOC from the Big East, and one was a BMOC from the SEC.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Tuley-Tillman and Treadwell||
Tuley-Tillman and Treadwell were huge early Michigan leans that have been getting some huge offers. Treadwell said Michigan was his leader back in November, and Shane Morris may be Michigan's best recruiter for him. Combine that with the fact that his speed would get him on the field immediately, and you gotta think getting him comfortable with the university and staff would put Michigan in great position.
LTT got wowed by Alabama and you can't really blame him if he ends up being a head over heart decision to go down there. I doubt this visit is gonna be all that decisive cause Michigan has extremely strong appeal already.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Wow. Wouldn't be surprised||
Wow. Wouldn't be surprised to see more than a half dozen go blue. That would be fantastic.
On a related note, and I cannot explain this whatsoever: I watched an interview of Ty Isaac and as soon as I saw him without a helmet, I thought, "This guy actually looks like he would go to Notre Dame."
What about this interview makes me think Notre Dame? Pessimism?
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Auburn has their own Ace||
Auburn has their own Ace Williams:
From 30 minutes ago:
Report; Alex Kozan to announce that he will sign with Auburn at 12:30 ET
From Jan 29 (his last "Report"):
Report: Armstead eliminates Oregon from decision. Between Auburn and Cal...
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I'm not alone in thinking||
I'm not alone in thinking that Gardner looked like a very gifted player who was overwhelmed by his situation at times when he came in last year, am I?
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Ondre Pipkins is definitely||
Ondre Pipkins is definitely my favorite at this point.
For one, he is an exceptional talent at a spot of need. For another, he has completely bought into Michigan. He obviously has pride in Michigan, its legacy, and his place in its history and future. I expect him to be a big-time contributer and a vocal leader his time here.
With that said, the character of Darboh and Chessun, as well as their pasts, make them extremely easy to root for.
Lastly, as far as my excitement level for seeing the guy on the field, that would go to Mario Ojemudia. I'm expecting great things.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Yeah, I'm not sure if that is||
Yeah, I'm not sure if that is what I would call "Coming back to bite him". Its not like he lost a player he had scholarship room for.
Plus he still coaches a team that merely has to do what they are supposed to play for a national championship.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I haven't heard good things||
I haven't heard good things out of the "experts", and I did have confidence in Garnett. Basically I need a defense mechanism.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I think we are about 11 hours||
I think we are about 11 hours and 25 minutes from our next embarrassing fan reaction.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Les Miles has forfeited the||
Les Miles has forfeited the right to rip recruits for as long as he lives.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Apparently, Jordan Diamond's||
Apparently, Jordan Diamond's HS coach is a Arkansas alum with a history of directing players to the university, so it isn't out of the question that OSU saw the writing on the wall even if Diamond's "handlers" weren't asking for anything.
Really, this is evidence of something I wondered about after Garnett's commitment.
I think the combination of Michigan's depth needs, its profile, and the diligence of its fans might cause a fake interest boost. When someone like Diamond or Garnett set a decision date off in the future, they aren't going to cut their school list down to their favorite, even if its obvious to them. Diamond, who is prolonging his recruiting to raise teammate visibility, would have plenty of reason to keep on multiple options listed.
Up until the announcement date, you can expect recruits to get far more Michigan referencing questions than they would say Stanford or Arkansas referencing questions. Therefore, any recruit who is trying to not give away his choice and wants to be polite and complementary are gonna have far more positive statements about Michigan than the other options.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Alternatively, those teams||
Alternatively, those teams are the least likely to ever be in a position where they need to make room for a dynamite prospect.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I kinda feel like a dick for||
I kinda feel like a dick for mentioning it now, because it was posted in a VIP thread on 247, but I guess I'm not turning back now.
Wiltfong's exact words were "I think its over."
|1 year 45 weeks ago||On a related, unmentioned||
On a related, unmentioned note, word is that Jordan Daimond is solid Arkansas lean and that Michigan is out of it.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Beilema's a turd.||
Beilema's a turd.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||There is no point in||
There is no point in projecting Michigan's season next year. If a) Denard works out the kinks and finds a high comfort level in this offense, b) a replacement shows up at center and the line doesn't get into injury trouble, c) some quality shows up on the interior of the defensive line, this team could contend for a national title. It is far more likely that this team loses four games, however.
This team has potentially the most dominant quarterback in the nation and a young defense that went from the basement to a top-25 defense last year. The sky's the limit, but a LOT of things need to go right.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Somebody needs to make a gif||
Somebody needs to make a gif out of this from about 20:49-56. I cracked up watching him try to follow that question.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||A question for Ace or Magnus||
A question for Ace or Magnus or anyone who would know this:
I seem to remember that some of Michigan's available scholarships were from not extending a fifth year to a couple of RS juniors, specifically Terrance Robinson and Mike Cox come to mind. I also know that Michigan has some contributing walk-ons on the roster.
So what sort of effects would "banking" a couple scholarships have on the current roster?
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I think after the RichRod||
I think after the RichRod years and the patchwork offense that we saw on the field last year, that this staff is having a hard time convincing skill players that Michigan is the best outlet for their abilities. The "The TEAM, the TEAM, the TEAM" concept sells really well to defensive players and offensive lineman who play as a cohesive unit, but it would seem that it doesn't hit too well with halfbacks, quarterbacks, and receivers.
Its gonna be a while before Hoke and Co. can sell this team to the Stefon Diggs, Sam Grants, and Brionte Dunns of the world on par with other elite programs.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Loved these last couple of||
Loved these last couple of posts, Seth.
Last week I made a bit of a stink saying this team was gonna play a 3-4. Since then an obvious 3-tech has signed, and at this point, I don't think this team is gonna have a base defense. I'm just excited about how Mattison can bring superior atheletes from any number of spots.
This is gonna be a zone-blitzing beast of a team, and Greg Mattison is gonna be teaching us all a lot over the next few years, especially about searching out and exploiting mismatches.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||It seems that Brewster has||
It seems that Brewster has heard otherwise.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Highly regarded 2013 TE.||
Highly regarded 2013 TE. Seems like a bit of a longshot.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Trent Richardson supposedly||
Trent Richardson supposedly can bench 475. Mike Martin could bench 505.
Presumably those are legit numbers.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Ondre Pipkins' Scout page||
Ondre Pipkins' Scout page lists his max press as 385, so you know, don't expect any Big Will miracles.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||There is no doubt this kid||
There is no doubt this kid wanted OSU. His other big10 offer was Illinois, so lets not give Ginn too much credit here. In fact, lets not give Ginn any credit.
Welcome aboard Willie! Good find by the staff.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Wiltfong is reporting that||
Wiltfong is reporting that Henry's coach texted him saying that Henry didn't commit yet.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I like this kid.||
This is exactly the sort of guy you want next to pipkins. He is a little undersized, so he won't make an immediate impact. He does have a quick first step and is good in pursuit, at least from his highlights. He could develop into a TFL machine.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||They will find room for||
They will find room for Reeves and Dodson.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||You are probably right about||
You are probably right about cornerback recruiting. I was thinking that Taylor projected as a safety.
But breaking it down by position:
At WR, Michigan is losing 4 or 5 receivers, and assuming both Chessun and Darboh (I really do like both) are on the roster next year, will only have a total of five receivers on their depth chart from the last three recruiting classes. That puts some big-time pressure on developing the recruits that have signed and any losses becomes very dangerous.
On the interior line, center is a lot more than iffy. We all collectively shit ourselves when Khoury had to come in against VaTech, and Jack Miller seems to be a fairly low ceiling project. Everywhere else on the line is thin as hell, and just could use some more bodies. Similar to WR, Michigan has to develop everyone and not lose anyone or there is more trouble.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||I gotta say that I'm only||
I gotta say that I'm only expecting Grant to fill out this class, and to me that's a bit of a problem. This caliber and character of the players Hoke has brought in certainly doesn't disappoint, but the class seems short of ideal on several positions: QB, HB, WR, interior OL, DT, CB.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Luck's backup will be a RS||
Luck's backup will be a RS Soph next year who was a top 5 pro-style QB in the class of 2010, and his HC was Harbaugh and Luck's offensive coordinator.
There really isn't much of a reason to assume that this team is set for a big decline.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Honestly, I have figured on||
Honestly, I have figured on Arkansas just because I would expect them to exploit advantages that Michigan wouldn't. I just don't expect Michigan to win head-to-head against mid-to-upper level SEC schools unless they have something obvious going in their favor.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Crawley and Wright are their||
Crawley and Wright are their only 4 stars, and Crawley isn't consensus. The rest are middle three stars.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Yeah, he's certain to make a||
Yeah, he's certain to make a splash.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||That school is gonna have||
That school is gonna have some lock-down corners with Crawley and Wright.
Too bad nobody is gonna pass when they can gain 5 YPC on the ground.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Ojemudia's Death Stare||
Ojemudia's Death Stare already has dibs on #98, and you just don't question Ojemudia's Death Stare.