"He makes it really easy on you as a coach because he has tremendous football instincts," Michigan tight ends coach Jay Harbaugh said. "Things come really naturally to him. He doesn't have to see things too many times. He has a good sense for how things should look and feel, and he's a tough, physical guy."
|5 hours 5 min ago||Is that what the data says||
Is that what the data says though? Great teams blow bad teams up because they have no other option - play your starters and they're going to kill the other guys, get up big and cruise. I realize M struggled on O in the first half but that game wasn't competitive at any point - Maryland would never score on that defense in 100 tries. They completely shut down what had been a decent rushing game from Maryland. Utter domination. Is that what highly ranked teams have historically done? If yes, it has value in a statistical model, and I assume he has data to support how much he weights it. Same thing with close losses vs. good teams.
The only thing I would question is the Michigan result: were the blowouts flukes, and was the close game not really as close as the score made it appear? I'd say no to both: BYU and Maryland were at least as bad as the score indicated, and if a couple of those deep balls had connected against Utah the result could have been completely different. M didn't deserve to win, but it was a closely contested game.
|1 day 19 hours ago||he's European, just be glad he waits until after||
he's European, just be glad he waits until after practice to smoke
|1 day 20 hours ago||how was this thread not starter by Yost?||
how was this thread not starter by Yost?
|3 days 4 hours ago||You should change the title||
You should change the title to include "PLUS WEATHER UPDATE" and you'll get more traffic.
|3 days 9 hours ago||To be fair, most of the||
To be fair, most of the really powerful storms do come from that region. They're just larger, stronger, and much faster than the storms from the midwest. Especially up front.
|4 days 3 hours ago||Ah, thanks. Didn't realize||
Ah, thanks. Didn't realize they played Nebraska, and away. I'd agree with you on that. Was thinking PSU but with their dogshit OL they probably can't pull anything off. Would be nice to see a repaired Hack with decent blocking face those iffy DB's, but that's probably not going to happen.
|5 days 2 hours ago||This is becoming a weekly must read||
Curious - who do you have as the 3rd test for Sparty?
|5 days 7 hours ago||Why||
Really good defense. Their offense should be hapless against our D, and though I'm not familiar with their special teams, I've got to believe we have the advantage there as well.
Harbaugh may open it up and take calculated risks, but it's likely both teams will be racing to run out the clock, keep it close, and pull out the win. Upside is definitely to M, but any team with a good defense is a tough win.
|6 days 4 hours ago||If I remember how numbers||
If I remember how numbers work, that is a higher win probability vs. Sparty than either of @Minny or @PSU.
|1 week 15 hours ago||Great thread topic, but... Mormons are some of||
Great thread topic, but...
Mormons are some of the most educated, sucessful, and wonderful working professionals you'll ever meet. I'm sure your comment is in jest, but makes you sound as though it is you who lives under a rock.
|1 week 2 days ago||???||
Wormley is a physical marvel, amazing strength and somewhat awkard agility and speed for a man so large. Yes I understand that's contradicting, but I don't know how else to describe him. He also plays slower than he should at times, confused or just waiting too long for more information before attacking. If the light really goes off and he trusts what he sees sooner, his beastly possibilities are nearly endless.
Messner was the opposite in my mind. Quick as a cat, seemed to know where the ball was going as well as the offense did, effortlessly sidestepped blockers, undersized and intense effort on every play. Messner willed himself to greatness, though he had a good physical skills, there was always a ceiling. He was just an excellent college player, showed up in big games and made big plays.
|1 week 3 days ago||Great analysis Brian, you're||
Great analysis Brian, you're picking up more and more. At least I think you are, what the hell do I know.
The problem on the 4th and 1 is that Green again doesn't have patience. He doesn't yet have the swagger to understand his guys can block, doesn't trust them yet. He trips because he's rushing to slam into the hole. Even if he doesn't trip he's going to ruing this play. But if he held up, rode his guard's butt, he's in the open field no question. Even if one or both of those LB's shoot that gap, they aren't going to get around Braden to make a tackle, he's simply to large of an object to maneuver around. The team just doesn't have the confidence yet, understandable. Saturday is a huge game.
4* blocking TE in Poggi, that would be a hell of a development.
|1 week 5 days ago||this has probably been covered somewhere, but did||
this has probably been covered somewhere, but did Marshall play at all last week?
|1 week 6 days ago||Sam Webb talked up David||
Sam Webb talked up David Reese during a recent recruiting round-up, ILB from Farmington. He'd always been a straight-ahead thumper, but this year he's added an ability to go sideline-to-sideline and track plays down. Has good ability to diagnose and attack plays. He'd been working on his coverage in the offseason, and Web noted that Scout saw improvement there in the 7-on-7 circuit, and that's carried over to the season.
This is supported a bit by Ace's post a few days ago, http://mgoblog.com/content/future-blue-originals-farmington-vs-southfield, where he generally liked Reese. There was a lot of talk around here about him being a FB at Michigan, but he seems to be improving at ILB. I'd be curious to know if Magnus has looked at any of this year's tape, if he likes him more. There was also at least one local coach who gave a review of Reese, said he was straight-ahead tough, but not an impact player you had to specifically prepare for.
EDIT: local coach said this about him last year, be curious if that's changed
|1 week 6 days ago||When I started to read the OP||
When I started to read the OP I had a feeling of dread that Countess was indeed the infamous #29. That was just a person gone mad.
No shame in getting trucks as a DB against that beast, he's gave his best shot. In the open field you're not going to be able to cut his legs and have him fall, because he'll just straight arm or jump over the lunge. You've got to try and wrap up, and doing that takes force away, and that leads to bad thing against Fournette.
-1 OP for title, but the topic of Fournette being unstoppable is a good one. Amazing display Saturday, and much of the Auburn defense did throw in the towel. +1 Les
|2 weeks 19 hours ago||regardless of opponent or less than impressive||
regardless of opponent or less than impressive effort today, it's nice to see the 28-7 Michigan score keep repeating all night
|2 weeks 20 hours ago||Desmond King with a nice pick for Iowa, Detroit||
Desmond King with a nice pick for Iowa, Detroit Crockett
|2 weeks 2 days ago||I had a very similar||
I had a very similar experience to you, though I started branching out a little before you did. What I concluded was that the micro-brew revolution had raised the water level on beer so dramatically, that in fact the differences between micro-brews had really narrowed. Get a micro-brew amber ale from a good restaurant, and it's going to be good. Get a different micro-brew amber ale from another good restaurant, it's going to be good. Same with IPAs and all the others. I never noticed a dramatic difference between Gonzo's Slippery Clown pilsner and Jimmy's Whack Stick Tipperary pilsner. Or whatever the local brewery crazy names were. Even more so in Michigan, I soon found out, we have a lot of great breweries. They're all good and you'll enjoy most of it.
All that said, this summer I had Bell's Trainwreck Amber Ale. 8.2% ABV, a nice sweet taste, different. I'll go buy that stuff and keep in the fridge.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||this is my question as well. move to change||
this is my question as well.
move to change thread name to "Lawrence Marshall?"
|2 weeks 4 days ago||FEI has Michigan #36, MSU #6,||
FEI has Michigan #36, MSU #6, and Oregon #3. Oregon State at #83.
Illinois at #77. FEI FTW
|2 weeks 4 days ago||Interesting. He has Michigan||
Interesting. He has Michigan at #38, and MSU #21. Oregon at #15.
Ugh. Illinois at #28. Must be the early season lack of data.
|2 weeks 4 days ago||"but you need to beat MSU||
"but you need to beat MSU thru the air without a lot of turnovers and with some big chunk plays and thus far Rudock has not shown that ability."
The hope is that we see some of that over the next several games. He was awful close against Utah several times. He didn't really need to get the ball deep vs. Oregon State, at least not in the second half. No quibbles here, I agree with your statement. We really need to see that deeper threat emerge in the passing game, which everyone knows. Drake Harris 100 dot emoji (I believe that's how Brian put it).
|2 weeks 4 days ago||it was more than that though. if you listened to||
it was more than that though. if you listened to Gruden's (the Washington head coach, not the guy looking for houses in Ann Arbor during the last 3 coaching searches) press conference when he went off on him last year, he said, among other things: that his footwork was bad, he took 3 step drops when they should have been 5, took no (!) drop steps when it should have been 3, and read the wrong side of the field on terms of his initial progression. this actually does sound like a problem with a system like Baylor's, where he did none of this.
|3 weeks 1 day ago||"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself||
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."
|3 weeks 1 day ago||Utah plays Utah State at 9:00. should give a good||
Utah plays Utah State at 9:00. should give a good indication of how good a team they are
|3 weeks 1 day ago||if this will serve as the general Friday Night||
if this will serve as the general Friday Night Football thread, Miami is at FAU on FS1
|3 weeks 1 day ago||you really need to stop listening to that shit||
you really need to stop listening to that shit
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Bars||
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Apparently a Top 100 OL,||
Apparently a Top 100 OL, didn't know we were still heavily pursuing OL.
|3 weeks 3 days ago||Morgan man love||
This is play side to Morgan, he's supposed to beat that guard's block and tackle the RB. Keeping it inside isn't enough on this play. Bolden is the WLB and he's also got a blocker on him, he's backside and he's got a longer way to go. They both miss the tackle, but to give Morgan a +1 and Bolden a -2 seems like Morgan man love.
Bolden had some obvious misses in this game, but this charting isn't putting enough emphasis on the things he did well, IMO. I wish I had time to go back and dispute more, but my guess is the coaches graded him out better than it shows here.
Excellent work as always.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I did and didn't see anything||
I did and didn't see anything glaring. Both LBs (Morgan and Bolden) tend to float too much in their drops, but I didn't see anything agregiously on Bolden.
Morgan allowed a big seam completion to the TE on the last Utah TD drive when he went after a RB that Peppers already had covered. It was a well designed play by Utah. He also batted down a ball, so it's a draw.
Did I miss something? I'm sure I did. I didn't coin the phrase what the hell do I know for nothing.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I don't think Morgan moves||
I don't think Morgan moves any better than Bolden right now. Morgan lost a (much larger and less elusive) TE in space this last game, and certainly wouldn't have done any better in 1-on-1 situations with the QB or RB that Bolden found himself in.
I thought Bolden was better than Morgan. They were both good, but limited athletically.
And as for Kovacs, I think he would have been juked the same as Bolden was if placed in similar 1-on-1 situations. Sometimes tackling absolutely is a matter of athleticism.
There were a lot frustating missed tackles. There were also a lot of TFLs. It was a good game for the defense. I thought Godin and Glasgow also played well.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||That definitely happend on||
That definitely happend on one run blitz where he could have had the RB in the backfield. Booker made a sweet move at the last minute to squirt passed him, but the delay allowed pursuit to catch up. I'd chalk that up as one of the obvious misses he had during the game that stood out watching live.
He's not a Ryan-level athlete. He missed the QB in space a couple of times (the other misses obvious live). But he did a lot of good work during that game, at least in my view.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I love your work here, I||
I love your work here, I don't want you to get the wrong idea or have you get upset.
But I'm not making an assertion - this isn't my diary with a claim that manball offenses are better than spreads. I still disagree with your Cardale Jones example: he won the job this year over Miller and Barrett, he's better than them. It's possible he wasn't at the beginning of last year, Barrett got the nod, things went well and why make a change. I think it's clear after the games that he's played that he's absolutely elite as a player. He was incredible vs. VT the other night.
Carr's offenses underperformed for almost his entire tenure. This is well documented and has more to do with his conservative nature than system. USC was running a pro-style attack that Michigan easily could have adopted and scored pinball-type numbers. There was absolutely no upper limit on them.
I would like to see evidence, if it's there, that spread is better than manball. There may be too many variables to isolate that, so there's no way to do it. Then it comes down to personal preference. But if you're going to assert that there's an upper limit to performance based on system, I think you solid evidence to back that claim. All my questions aren't meant as an insult, they're intended to understand if you have that type of evidence. Again it may not exist, and I don't want to diminish your analysis. Truly enjoy your work.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||Stock down: Stribling. He||
Stock down: Stribling. He let two plays outside of him to the sideline, when pinning his blocker or just placing himself as an obstacle there would have forced the ball back to his help inside. Allowed big gains on the first drive. Clark didn't do much to impress either, so I agree with Ace's post game take of that CB spot being a concern.
Don't agree with his Bolden post-game assessment though, I wonder if he'd revise that after watching film. Bolden had a few key misses that were obvious on watching the game live, but he had a really solid day. He's become really adept at getting around blockers without losing much speed to the ball. On two occasions in the first half he absolutely teleported through double-team (!) blocks and was available to tackle. Thought he had a good game even with some of those obvious misses.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||I think that kid had two||
I think that kid had two catches against Peppers. Brian went into detail on one of those routes yesterday, providing a convincing argument as to why it's so difficult to cover. So much so that if you pre-snap read man coverage on this route, it's automatice you're going there. The other was a drag across the field - sure Peppers gave up the catch, but he did track him down and make the tackle. The PI on the tight end was bullshit I thought - was great coverage and he just got to physical at the very end of the route. If he just runs alongside him, I don't think the ref throws a flag. Easily fixable.
I don't see any of that as cause for alarm. And his run stuffing and bubble screen anhiliations cannot be understated - he was simply outstanding at that.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||On the 4th and 1 where Smith||
On the 4th and 1 where Smith missed the outside bounce, he caved his guy through the entire left side of the line. In fact that may have caused some confusion, because it distorted the look of the line. If Kalis was supposed to pick up one of those gap-shooting LB's, he may have been confused because his normal "landmark", Cole's body, was stuffing his man into Glasgow's pockets. It may have even opened up more of a lane there for the LBs to run through.
But I agree he didn't have a great game. Magnuson played well, but we was bulled back on several pass rush attempts. The no sacks thing is a bit of a mirage - Rudock avoided several of them, and quick passes limited others. They're better, but it's going to be a problem this year if they don't improve.
|3 weeks 4 days ago||You're not giving any data to||
You're not giving any data to support your argument.
What does being not being good in a non-spread environment have to do with anything? No one would argue that Tom Brady would be a good QB in a spread environment. So what?
Again, the spread didn't allow Cardale Jones to be excellent and win a Nat'l Championship. He was simply excellent in his play and allowed OSU to win a Nat'l Championship. Yes, all 3 QB's on that team are elite. And they have outstanding coaching (strategy and talent development). This is fairly strong evidence for miy argument: outstanding recruiting, great coaching strategy in game, great coaching motivation, technique, great talent development. This is the outstanding result when you have all these things, no matter the system.
Ridiculous example, but it's soft and anecdotal data just like yours: did the spread cover up the talent deficiencies in Michigan's awful, just awful 2008 offense?
I'm open to what you're saying, but I need data or something other than cherry picked examples to see your view. What you're saying now just seems to be more polish on the existing spread mythos, and your evidence is that you prefer it because you like it. That doesn't mean it's fundamentally better than any other offense. And your arguments sound similar to a manball proponent saying "it's better because it makes your defense tougher." Is that true? What is the evidence there? Schembechler believed that, he was a pretty good coach.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||"Watching osu last night and||
"Watching osu last night and the end of last year, you saw them nickel and dime teams before bashing them for huge plays. "
You would have seen the exact same thing from Michigan, had they hit on any of the wide open deep balls thrown in the game. In addition to those to Chesson and Darboh, there was a pass play to Jake Butt where he ran a fake curl, and the LB (or safety, not sure) bit so hard he accidentally ran into Butt as he broke it out downfield. Braden got beaten badly on his block, so Rudock had to get rid of it early. But if not for that, Butt would have been wide open running down the middle of the field with the ball in his hands. It's just that M doesn't have the execution or timing down yet.
I don't understand these examples, they all sound like soft data or hearsay. Cardale Jones made a spectacular throw to the end zone on OSU's first TD last night, and the receiver made a spectacular catch. The first was getting pressure in the pocket, the second was fairly well covered (so much so that the DB was called for PI). They made spectacular plays and I don't see any benefit from the system making it easier for them. It's a system that Meyer believes in and is committed to, and he coaches it amazingly well. I see great players (recruiting, development) making great plays. I also saw several plays where one OSU OL got beat and blew up the play for a loss or no/little gain.
Now were some plays great isolations? Sure. But Michigan had those too. If OSU has a true freshman Grant Perry out there instead of Braxton Miller, they don't get those spectacular catches and TD's. It's great coaching and great players/development.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||*Sam Webb||
|3 weeks 5 days ago||last time I heard talk about this, he thought||
last time I heard talk about this, he thought Winston was a slight M lean
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I think your examples are a||
I think your examples are a bit simplistic, but I may be misreading them: are you comparing Malzone to Cardale Jones? The guy beat out JT Barret and Braxton Miller, both Heisman candidates, for the job. He was great in those playoff games last year, and even against Michigan. He made plays on his own, was not at all the product of a system. If he has been a crappy QB they would have lost those games.
How do I know that? Well I don't, but as an example RR lost Pat White against a terrible Pitt team and lost. The backup didn't seem to benefit from the advantages you note. Is that a weak example? No weaker than yours.
What you're also discounting is the overpowering potential of a Harbaugh offense. As with Alabama, LSU, and his old Stanford outfits, they punish you and make you want to go home. They make you hurt. As much as we all vomit at the mention of toughness after the Hoke regime, it means something in football. It will eventually be a real thing under Harbaugh.
Meyer's offense is elite be a use he's just a fantastic coach, and the talent there is elite, and his talent development and coaching staff are elite. That's what Michigan needs and now finally have.
Great leaders, intelligently exploiting opponent weaknesses with their strengths, which they've recruited and developed, based on their elite coaching staff's input and recommemdations, will be what win the day. Spread offense has nothing to do with it.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||I totally agree. Follow the guard's butt and||
I totally agree. Follow the guard's butt and that's an easy 5-7 yards. Darboh is on the CB and that free safety may have committed inside, so even with Smith's lack of speed that may be a TD if he just takes the simple read outside. instead he Chooses to run headlong into the only two unblocked players on the field
|3 weeks 6 days ago||couldn't he be talking about the corner route||
couldn't he be talking about the corner route Perry ran which was overthrown to the DB? That and the dig vs out. I think the pick 6 was on Rudock
|3 weeks 6 days ago||I think you may want to examine whether you're||
I think you may want to examine whether you're harboring some bigotry against Christians.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||He's likely talking about credit card debt.||
He's likely talking about credit card debt. Housing debt isn't a problem, that's an investment that pays off for most families provided the financial and government worlds haven't gone insane. Used cars can be purchased with no or very minimal debt. Education needs to be rethought from the ground up, but one thing will never change - if it doesn't pay off, it's not worth it in the long run. Lots of kids go to 4 year schools and live on campus when they could go to a local college or even community college for the first two years and see a better return. get outstanding grades, top of your class, and good companies will give you a shot even if you didn't attend a larger university.
Debt is a cancer. It's not at all as unavoidable as you make it seem.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||see, I don't see this as a thread. this is a||
see, I don't see this as a thread. this is a comment in one of the many other threads. you're not providing new information or insight, other than you re-watching the game and are commenting based on that.
and the thread title is terrible. my constructive feedback
|3 weeks 6 days ago||No TD before the half... that was... that was nice||
No TD before the half... that was... that was nice
|4 weeks 1 day ago||very classy, great fans and a great team. good||
very classy, great fans and a great team. good luck this year and beyond
|4 weeks 2 days ago||this thread||
you're doing it wrong
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Exactly this. They'll beat a||
Exactly this. They'll beat a couple big teams in the PAC12 and they'll lose to several others. USC, Oregon, UCLA, Arizona aren't going to miss those plays where Michigan got behind the secondary, or provide 3 gift int's. Tough at home, but I don't think they'll compete for a conf. championship.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||I'm almost certain I saw him||
I'm almost certain I saw him in the huddle at one point.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Listen to Harbaugh's presser,||
Listen to Harbaugh's presser, it'll make you feel a lot better. #1 it's Jim Harbaugh, speaking intelligently about the game, answering specific questions like a serious man who knew exactly what was going on. Wonderful change from Hoke.
But #2 he had a really good take on the game. Lots of fixable issues. He liked how the team stuck together and kept fighting, liked how Rudock recovered from the pick 6 to lead a TD drive, liked how a lot of the guys played including the OL in the second half. Talked about a lot of "run-throughs", which I think are pulling OL running by a defender instead of blocking him. Admitted the RB's missed some holes, but liked how Smith ran tough.
I agree with him, I think there's a lot to work with. 8-4 / 9-3 is still out there, with the potential to take down one of the rivals at home.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||none. listen to Harbaugh's presser||
none. listen to Harbaugh's presser
|4 weeks 2 days ago||He's clearly covered, whatever the route. can't||
He's clearly covered, whatever the route. can't make that throw.
|4 weeks 2 days ago||our ILB's are not 5/5. they're 3.5/5. geez||
our ILB's are not 5/5. they're 3.5/5. geez Bolden played just like last year after great camps - confused, not reading well, out of position and missing tackles
|4 weeks 2 days ago||He was covered by a LB at the last moment who||
He was covered by a LB at the last moment who clearly had no idea what to do in that situation. he started 10 yards off the ball and immediately gave ground. have to at least see that and consider the throw. also, Butt's open.
Rudock trusts Perry bc they clearly connected in practice. that's fine. but to be a good team, there has to be a better decision there
|4 weeks 2 days ago||That was on the first pick, not the 3rd||
That was on the first pick, not the 3rd
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Butt, Chesson, and Isaac were open on that play.||
Butt, Chesson, and Isaac were open on that play. Rudock's got to read the defense and progress. he stared at Perry and was never going anywhere else
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Yes||
|4 weeks 2 days ago||Utah gave Michigan 7 pts with the unnecessary||
Utah gave Michigan 7 pts with the unnecessary roughness penalty.
I'm optimistic as well but you're overstating it. Utah deserved to win. Michigan has some good things to work with going forward
|4 weeks 2 days ago||well, we have some receivers and OL that can pass||
well, we have some receivers and OL that can pass block at S decent level. they also opened enough holes in the run game that we should have had 25-35 more yards at least, and at key junctures. Butt's as good as advertised.
No RB tonight and QB made some whopper mistakes.
I think they'll get better.
|4 weeks 3 days ago||Kyle Flood 5 minutes in the future||
"I will most certainly not be coaching the game on Saturday."
|4 weeks 3 days ago||You're confusing an||
You're confusing an aberration with an argument. Yes he was good at other places before, and has been good at Arizona after coaching at Michigan. The fact that his football decisions were awful here is confusing, and at variance with his history. But that does not change the abundant evidence that he was a complete failure here. Because something is an outlier does not mean it's not true. It just means it's an outlier.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||It would have to assume a||
It would have to assume a worse QB simulation than Morris, which is difficult to believe based on his available stats.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||Confused and I'm sure it's||
Confused and I'm sure it's me.
But "initial model" calls for a loss by 3.5 points. Inserting Rudock at QB flips that to a 1.1 point win, while inserting Morris has a loss, but by only 1.0 points. What's the 3.5 point intial loss based on?
|4 weeks 4 days ago||I respect that it's your||
I respect that it's your opinion, it just seems incredulous to me. At some point you have to stop making excuses and perform. For football head coaches, that's from day 1. It's all on him, it's all his fault. That should be his view.
It's not Brandon's fault, it was RR's. You don't have any idea if the $1M had anything to do with the decision. RR didn't deserve a show of support at that point, and if he needed that in order to not get his ass kicked in the bowl game, it just further proves my point that he was terrible here.
We were better in 2011 because Hoke and Mattison engineered a confidence and defensive makeover. There's little evidence to believe RR could have managed the former, and abundant and certain information that he wouldn't have completed the latter. There were lots of DC's available all over college football that would have been better than the nightmares he put on the field, at whatever cost he was limited to (if he was even limited at all).
You're holding on because you invested and you probably had friends or relatives who hated him all the way through. You defended RR for a long time and were never able to concede. This is stubborn. I did the same thing as you, but I attended that disaster of a Gator Bowl and knew at that point he had to go.
He was an awful football coach at Michigan, it's OK to admit that. No you can't project some fantastical improvement - you can only project off what he did while at Michigan. It was terrible.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||He wasn't a bad fit. He was||
He wasn't a bad fit. He was a bad coach here. The football decisions he made were terrible and he failed.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||As stated||
I'm omitting all soft issues. None of those would have mattered if he didn't fail completely on the football field.
You want to talk about the soft issues because many of those were unfair. I won't even debate you because it doesn't matter. I'll grant all of those.
Will you grant me that GERG beaver was a disaster that had nothing to do with his treatment by a faction of the Michigan fanbase? That he changed both his defensive scheme and the positions of 3-4 players during a bye week before the Penn State game, and got obliterated by a walk-on ginger? That he played a clearly not-ready-for-B1G football McGuffie as a true freshman over Brandon Minor, who when healthy was not only leagues (light years) ahead of McGuffie, but one of the best in the B1G? Minor started 4 games and McGuffie started 6! Getting his head pounded and being in effective in all of them. Remember when Forcier hit Roundtree against Illinois and he got down to the 1 yard line. RR hands off 3 times to somebody little, on the goal line. I believe it was Vincent Smith. You figure, well, Minor's hurt and unavailable, he has no choice. Then in runs Brandon Minor on 4th down! Stuffed because now the defense is charged. Illinois, who had been actively warming up the second string QB and were to concede the game, rally and win the game. Give the ball to Minor if he's available, on 1st down and the remaining downs as needed, like any monkey would have, and Michigan wins that game. Who knows, maybe that win has the players buying in more and builds an energy his program was never able to muster. But at the least, he goes 6-6 in his second season, making a bowl. He could have changed things on his own, but he was incometent here.
This is like 5 seconds of stuff. RR was a terrible footbal coach here. I wish that wasn't the case, I was on board and committed. But he was just awful and you can't change that by invoking blue hairs.
|4 weeks 4 days ago||You are choosing to omit the||
You are choosing to omit the Gator Bowl from your memory. I don't blame you. His team gave up on him. Denard Robinson - if nothing else, he was most certainly the sweetest football human to ever walk this earth - actively screamed back at him after being berated by RR for running his plays which didn't work. They quit in that game and were trampled. After weeks of practice. Outplayed, outcoached, embarassed and giving no fucks about it. When RR was fired, seemingly none of the players cared. Roy Roundtree joked about it on twitter.
It absolutely was not trending up, it was a basket case. Top in-state recruits like Royce Jenkins-Stone said they wouldn't have come to Michigan if RR was there. Recruits were bailing on him like lol. Every "hot seat" conversation began with RR and took up most of the segment. It was a complete disaster. You cannot be remembering that time correctly and have any thought that the program was trending in the right direction.
If Michigan goes 11-2 this year, I will wait for you to complain that Brady Hoke should have been retained. Because Harbaugh "won with Hoke's players."
|4 weeks 5 days ago||Only if you are conciously||
Only if you are conciously omitting all of RR's football-only decisions. Forgetting about all of the softer issues (#1 jersey, swearing at practice, dismissal of traditions, etc), his football decisions were atrocious.
You are focusing on all of those softer issues and thinking to yourself, "that was really unfair, he could have succeeded without that." Not with Greg Robinson as his DC, forcing him to run a 3-3-5 when it was clear even to Brian that Gerg didn't even know where to place his MLB. Think about that alone: RR hired a coach that didn't know where to locate his MLB in a 3-3-5, and did nothing to change this fact. Even sticking with this one issue, the essence of the 3-3-5 is sending one or more of the LB's on blitzes on any given play, confusing the defense. There was none of this in Michigan's defense. How is this possible? RR was awful here.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||First of all, hyperbole train||
First of all, hyperbole train running off the tracks at the end of your post there.
Second, see my post above. It's entirely possible that RR was a great coach everywhere before coming to Michigan, and a great coach after Michigan, but terrible at Michigan. It's possible and it was in fact exactly what happened.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I met RR, liked him, still cheer for him||
But if RichRod had recruited even a half-sane number of offensive lineman, any WR's besides Jeremy Gallon, or any DE's at all, Hoke would still be here. /shudders
RR was a great coach everywhere but Michigan. No matter how many times people re-assert their desire that he could have succeeded here, it will not change that he was awful at Michigan. Just terrible here. The list of offenses is too long to post. And yes he had some opposition, but he failed and it was his fault.
|4 weeks 5 days ago||I assume Beamer didn't tell||
I assume Beamer didn't tell his players about the Georgia Tech thing, because he was so baffled by the encounter.
That would be great bulletin board material, which went unused because of crazy. What on earth can you do? Tell your fellow coaches, colleagues, reporters, have a chuckle... and get your ass handed to you 40-12.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Did that NW center get called||
Did that NW center get called for holding on that play with Godin? My goodness that was right in front of the ref who stared at them the entire time, didn't look like he was reaching for his flag.
Harbaugh will tear that ref a new orifice and mean it. Hoke, who always played nice with the refs and never profited from it, probably objected for a moment and relented. Harbaugh won't relent.
The MSU/OSU thing is ominous, but great analysis by Brian. I like being prepared with that knowledge this far in advance of the games. Maybe Henry gets the nod at NT for those games, and hopefully Glasgow has improved.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Bacon's reddit AMA was||
Bacon's reddit AMA was interesting on this topic yesterday. It was RichRod who asked Brandon if Les Miles would be Michigan's next coach after he'd been fired, and Brandon told him "Over my dead body."
I'd heard the story many times before, but didn't know RR was the source.
|5 weeks 3 days ago||Norfleet? But you're right,||
Norfleet? But you're right, not sure how they got to only 6.
Defense seems overcounted, with us having lost Clark, Beyer, Ryan, Taylor and Countess. Clark was dismissed so I guess Ojemudia is technically a returning starter. Morgan was a starter two years ago and he's back, I assume that's the count replacing Ryan. Taylor and Beyer I can't understand.
I'm really not worried about the loss of Beyer, Taylor, or Countess (the exception to the latter is if there's a DB injury, and the loss of some nickel flexibility), but Clark and Ryan will be missed. Though it's possible Morgan makes up for the loss of Ryan's inate athleticism by having better run instincts early in the year and better coverage skills on passing downs.
|5 weeks 4 days ago||Need a pass rusher, need someone to step up at WR,||
Need a pass rusher, need someone to step up at WR, need a QB, need a RB who can pass block, need the OL to improve in pass blocking. I agree we'll be very pleasantly surprised with the run game (OL and RBs), TEs, and every defensive position besides SDE/pass rush. But it's still a lot of questions.
|5 weeks 6 days ago||" If things aren't going well they do have the||
" If things aren't going well they do have the option of moving Peppers to boundary and using Hill as a full-time starter. They clearly do not want to do that."
How does this reconcile with all of the "Hill may be the best player on the team" talk in that open practice thread? Does anyone know where that sentiment comes from - is it just one insider report from one person on 247/Scout/Rivals and it's getting repeated over and over
|5 weeks 6 days ago||Doesn't this follow the same rule as Rudock at QB?||
Doesn't this follow the same rule as Rudock at QB? Established power 5 starter, lost his job, played a lot of football. Brings a higher floor to the position, if Morris wins out, great, it would mean he's exceeded that floor.
Didn't happen at QB, but under that logic don't we assume Clark and Stribling have exceeded that floor? Doesn't seem like a bad thing to me, and Lyons certainly adds depth.
|6 weeks 4 hours ago||great, thank you||
great, thank you
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||I understand that, everyone's seen the assumed||
I understand that, everyone's seen the assumed depth chart before tonight. What I'm asking for the people who attended, did Dawson. start at LG and Bars at RT?
There has been noise that Dawson is running down Braden at LG, and if he started with the 1's tonight it would lend that more credence. If Bars is with the 1's, my first thought would be Mags is banged up
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||well I'm an eternal optimist, but I don't see what||
well I'm an eternal optimist, but I don't see what the concern is with tonight. Injuries suck, but if Lewis dressed that's at least encouraging. If Harris and Perry really are emerging at WR, that would be an incredible addition to the team's weakest position from out of nowhere. Rudock took the job, great. Godin starting at DT is great news - we assume Hurst has great talent, Godin's pushed himself ahead. That kid can play. We're going to need another contributer with Mone out, looks like Godin's raised his hand. This all seems like good news.
But did I read Dawson was starting at LG, and Bars at RT?
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||I'd agree with this, could be a good sign||
I'd agree with this, could be a good sign
|6 weeks 17 hours ago||I'd allow the dubious nature of that assertion||
I'd allow the dubious nature of that assertion color the credibility of the entire post
|6 weeks 1 day ago||my goodness that would be a fantastic development||
my goodness that would be a fantastic development
|6 weeks 1 day ago||what? Marcus Ray said he was the best DB in the||
what? Marcus Ray said he was the best DB in the spring in his mind, which was a hell of a statement given everything we heard about Peppers. if Hill is better than he and Lewis (and Wilson, for that matter), let alone a guy like Jake Butt, holy crap.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||can you give a rationale for this? I genuinely||
can you give a rationale for this? I genuinely don't understand. He was easily the best back we had last year, in my mind. And Harbaugh loves him
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I dislike the work Brandon||
I dislike the work Brandon did, he was incompetent and failed and deserved to be fired. I'm glad he's gone. The vitriol here and the assignment of ill intent seems entirely unbalanced, and I see it as unreasonable. I like to attack unreasonable.
I love Brian and his writing, believe he's an immense talent. Just like you. But that doesn't mean I don't point out what I believe to be flaws. I don't read Terry Foster or Drew Sharp, don't listen to Valenti, I can't understand why anyone would. The nonsense they spew is irrelevant to me because I don't respect their work, don't care what they say, and therefore wouldn't try to point out any of their flaws or errors. This is not the case with Brian and many on this blog.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||No, I would have said "I||
No, I would have said "I would have loved to talk to Brandon, because it would have made a fantastic interview for the blog, and I could have challenged him on all the things I thought he was doing wrong. It would have been a long discussion."
And the groupthink here is not the disapproval of Brandon, it's the lose-their-shit-for-eight-months nature of the discourse. The demonization, the crazy extension of incompetence and failure into evil intent. The revelry in the failure. It's very reminiscent of the reaction of many to RichRod's firing. I see it as beneath this blog.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||There's plenty of that in||
There's plenty of that in this thread, but not in my post. What I'm saying to you above is not an argument, it's a comment that how you've interpreted what I've said is lazy.
And it's ironic that you're upset because you feel I'm trying to discredit you to further my argument. Is your original post to me not a sarcastic attack. You field both a strawman and an ad hominem up there.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||You can do better here. In||
You can do better here. In this thread you don't have to, sure, because everybody groupthink. But you can do better.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||this is a common buyout||
this is a common buyout package for ADs, it was the package the university agreed to. Your disbelief should be channeled to the amount of money flowing around college athletics, not at Brandon. He wasn't charging the fanbase exorbitant sums to fund his own demise.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||This is rational thinking and||
This is rational thinking and not at all mob blog mentality. I'll just continue to be the crazy one here and suggest that Brandon went to Michigan, played football for Bo, was a regent, gave up millions to take the AD job, went to so many athletic events across so many sports (meaning likely 14-16 hour days) that literally an athlete at Michigan could not be found to disparage him even though he'd clearly failed and the media was digging in every corner to find one. "He was a greedy businesspublican who lined his pockets with our money!!" Of course he was. But let's be crazy and consider HE didn't make any more money by bilking the fanbase for every dollar. He was doing it so that he could build world class athletic facilities at the school for all sports, and as soon as possible. In part for his own vanity? Sure. But probably not to fund his consumption of third world children or hammering out the shins of newborn puppies.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||I don't think you understand. These men hate each||
I don't think you understand. These men hate each other, it's petty and childish. The grave dancing on Brian's part has gone beyond all rationale limits of his responsibility to tell this story. It's personal, and for those who can't see that, it's only because it's personal for you too. This blog collectively, telling George Bush derp derp jokes 3 years after he's out of office. Your celebratory moment has long passed, the Hackett/Harbaugh era is here. That's the story. It's a really good one if you can leave the bitterness behind.
I'm glad Brandon's gone. When I'm glad someone's gone, I don't normally go on talking about them for months.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||but Brandon's statement was completely literal, he||
but Brandon's statement was completely literal, he really believes Brian is similar to a murderer of innocents.
/strokes increase in pace
|6 weeks 1 day ago||and Brian says if someone had tried to arrange a||
and Brian says if someone had tried to arrange a meeting with Brandon, he would have said the same thing.
mgoblog: haha, Brandon's soo stupid and childish
logic: but Brian said exactly the same thing
mgoblog: huh? /resumes masterbating on thread
|6 weeks 1 day ago||alternate title: Dave Brandon is a terrorist,||
alternate title: Dave Brandon is a terrorist, according to Brian Cook.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I don't understand why you can't see how your||
I don't understand why you can't see how your moralistic navel gazing is grating. It is this lack of logic and critical thinking that should make you sad.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Michigan too, at least some of them. They have||
Michigan too, at least some of them. They have several games down at Wayne State next weekend with some big programs - Cass Tech (Onwenu), Southfield High (Falcon), Orchard Lake St Mary's, De La Salle, even King (Corley, Hill) I believe
|6 weeks 3 days ago||no. like the rooting for Shane thread below, this||
no. like the rooting for Shane thread below, this is a comment that could have been included in one of many threads on the board. but everyone's descending into the madness of Harbaugh so let's just enjoy it
|6 weeks 4 days ago||Bars turning into a||
Bars turning into a serviceable back-up would be an outstanding development. I was going to do a write-up on his play during the spring game, looked at every play. He was meh, some good plays, some bad ones... couldn't conclude much.
|6 weeks 4 days ago||my goodness, +1 for the||
my goodness, +1 for the avatar
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Which is exactly what Troy||
Which is exactly what Troy is. Unless they're counting the snobbery emitted from Somerset Mall, which itself can make a case for #1.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||sounds like the internet equivalent of the drunk,||
sounds like the internet equivalent of the drunk, unreasonable trailer park guy explaining on Cops why the other guy in the trailer is really drunk and being unreasonable
|6 weeks 6 days ago||my goodness that post is||
my goodness that post is hilarious in its absolute level of wrongness
|6 weeks 6 days ago||Did anyone hear Sam Webb this||
Did anyone hear Sam Webb this morning? I tuned in late, heard him talking about Peppers playing more CB. Hill and Wilson playing great at safety, with Lyons able to play over there too. Trying Canteen and Demario Jones at CB. It sounded a little bit like a rehash of spring, but he said this was happening in this (Fall) camp.
|7 weeks 3 hours ago||why? there would be at least 8 games left||
why? there would be at least 8 games left
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||you should put them on the same line then, not||
you should put them on the same line then, not that any of this matters
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||right. Have you heard anything to put Jones in||
right. Have you heard anything to put Jones in front of him? There's at least some anecdotal on Ways (works out with Peppers), where I haven't heard a thing on Jones since last spring.
|7 weeks 18 hours ago||Wormley is definitely ahead of Charlton at DE.||
Wormley is definitely ahead of Charlton at DE. Also, Jones ahead of Mays? Neither have done a thing, but at least Mays had a presence in the spring game
|7 weeks 1 day ago||you don't have to get yourself an entire twitter,||
you don't have to get yourself an entire twitter, you can just log in from your computer or get the app
|7 weeks 1 day ago||Jaron Dukes is really skinny. So much so that I||
Jaron Dukes is really skinny. So much so that I wonder how he can be in the program this long and still be that skinny - is he not working out, is he not eating enough despite the training staff recommending (I'm assuming) huge calories, something else? I guess some guys just are able to put on weight.
why am I mentioning Dukes? Because Harris is skinnier than he is. Unless he has a ton of hidden strength in that lanky frame, I'd temper expectations for at least another year.
|7 weeks 1 day ago||the OL will be there from week 1, in terms of||
the OL will be there from week 1, in terms of running the ball. pass blocking that hold up without a ton of play action? Yeah I would love to see Drevno get them right by conference play
|7 weeks 2 days ago||You can link to a Steve||
You can link to a Steve Lorenze article OP, found on his twitter. He put together the reactions of current commits and other prospects.
Though that was probably included in the 400 comment thread below. You probably cannot save yourself.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||We will run the ball quite||
We will run the ball quite well this year, if we can avoid injuries to the starting OL. If a RB emerges with the ability to make his own yards, we'll be very good. Miller was a weak spot all year, and the line began to gel at the end of the year. WR blocking must and should improve. Pass-blocking is still going to be an issue, I don't see that improving much with this group unless Drevno, and a RB emerging there as well.
DL will be a strength against the run, but I don't see much pass rush unless Marshall. There's a lot more than wishful thinking and spring game - both the OL and DL have a lot of starts, and in terms of the run game, some good performance.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||That's not the way it works.||
That's not the way it works. If he was tried and acquitted, you can't assume some level of illicit activity because he was arrested*.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||gd it seems like he just||
gd it seems like he just broke his leg not too long ago
|7 weeks 3 days ago||which gets Taco on the field more, who can also||
which gets Taco on the field more, who can also play. Hurts depth, and to the extent that he was ahead of the other guys, hurts performance. But the team can withstand the fall of this one dominoe on the DL. Another injury would put them in the danger zone.
Obviously still hoping it's not true.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||Terrible for Mone if true. Football - wise, not||
Terrible for Mone if true.
Football - wise, not great. But Henry takes more snaps than planned at NT and the door cracks open for Godin at 3T. This kid can play
|7 weeks 3 days ago||spill it big man||
spill it big man
|7 weeks 4 days ago||This kid is jacked up, saw||
This kid is jacked up, saw him at Kid's Day. He looks like he's been in a college weight program for three years. If that's all effort, great. If he's born with it, great. He's not very tall, but he's cut to pieces.
Based on the poster who was his high school coach, the kid's work ethic is what sets him apart. If he can pick through traffic and find the holes the OL gives him (and no one else really steps up to do the same), he can absolutely play this year.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Dierdorf talked about this -||
Dierdorf talked about this - Bo's 1969 team was all pads all the time, hitting every day. He said they hit way too much, and Bo recognized that and scaled it back in later years.
But he said it made them tough SOB's. Games were nothing compared to the practices they endured. I can understand that. Football is a rough game, it's scary at times, honestly. You have fear - not like the fear of a test or doing poorly or failing. You have looking-into-the-eyes-of-a-lion fear. There's no problem getting up for that 3 hours, at least at an individual level. If you don't you'll get killed. You can put a lot of pain and certainly fatigue aside when faced with that supercharged flight-or-fight fear.
I think you can be flat, or lack confidence, or not care or given in. Let yourself get beat because the pain/fatigue is too much. But I don't think that happens because your body is tired in that 3 hour window. I think it happens because of a mindset. A good coach prepares and develops that mindset.
There's a lot of debate on this topic and I know coaches think about it a lot, so this could definitely be correct. I just don't see the toughness angle. I know in the eyes of this blog this makes me a bit of a blue hair, but the team wasn't tough like it needs to be the last couple of years. And I don't think a lot of contact in practice would make a team less tough.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||This confuses me. They||
This confuses me. They didn't play like a very tough team.
"They didn't play tough because they were too beat-up in practice to play tough."
I don't think that's the way it works.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||CFL if he's going to be a WR.||
CFL or Arena League if he's going to be a WR. Learn the craft, come back in a couple years.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||He's not a couple of inches||
He's not a couple of inches taller than Dileo, unless I'm forgetting #9's measurables. He's probably exactly the same size. The lack of offers are due to size, in my mind - he's probably 5'9" (first blush seeing him on Kid's Day I would have said 5'8"; he's small).
Don't care and Love this kid. Great route running is something this team desperately needs. Even when he's not playing, seeing a technician in practice will be a great benefit to all the other WR's on the team.
|8 weeks 4 hours ago||Magnus keeps hinting at Gentry seeing snaps this||
Magnus keeps hinting at Gentry seeing snaps this year, so if they're going with a second QB look, I assume it'll be him. Not enough practice time for all three
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Also as as FYI for the board, Hurst was introduced||
Also as as FYI for the board, Hurst was introduced as a defensive tackle and defensive end. The others were one or the other. So Henry was a DT, as was Mone, Glasgow, Godin. Durkin called Wormley, Charlton, Strobel defensive ends, and Ojemudia, RJS, and Marshall buck LBs (but still introduced with the DL unit
|8 weeks 1 day ago||Strobel is still on defense. Harbaugh described||
Strobel is still on defense. Harbaugh described him as "available on offense", but playing defense. He was introduced with the DL at kids day
|9 weeks 6 hours ago||Ray is prone to grand, dramatic statements. If||
Ray is prone to grand, dramatic statements. If you dismiss those, his analysis is pretty spot-on. He was very critical if the team at times last year, and early on said they were mediocre (even before ND).
I don't think this means anything re. the other RBs. It's been a long offseason for the analysts as well, need a couple overstatement to get them through to the first week of practice
|9 weeks 2 days ago||this is overstated. the gif is a great block, and||
this is overstated. the gif is a great block, and he's made some nice blocks and some other special teams plays in his time here. But he's also missed a ton of blocks, or at least he did last year. Going into last year the narrative was "should be good and if nothing else really good blocking", and it stuck. But didn't really pan out, needs to improve his blocking along with route running this year.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||this is a new and impressive missive brought back||
this is a new and impressive missive brought back from Imagination Land. I'm sure RichRod has won many titles for you there over the last several years.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||you miss the point, and apologies for being so||
you miss the point, and apologies for being so blunt, but I belive that evinces how little you know about leadership. CEO has a CFO, they do good work together, CEO moves to a bigger company. Can't have my CFO? Well then I'm going to suck for three years. That's a worthless CEO. You're not allowed that type of excuse.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||how about his 3rd year, when he not only changed||
how about his 3rd year, when he not only changed the positions of several of his defensive players during the bye week before PSU, but once again changed the entire scheme? Resulting total confusion and gingerpocalypse was an obvious outcome. Somehow I kept believing in the guy through the bowl game, when his players quit on him. He was terrible, terrible at Michigan.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||this matters not even a little. As a leader of||
this matters not even a little. As a leader of anything, you're not allowed to say "I couldn't have my first choice, that's why I failed." Even though the normally sensible proprietors of this site promote this theory, you've got to let it go. RR was alone responsible for his awful defense, full stop.
He was terrible here, the faults are too numerous to rehash. He was great at WV and has been great at Arizona, neither of which erase the fact that he was awful at Michigan.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I know he's won a national||
I know he's won a national title, but could you reallY trust your kid to someone who allows himself to go by "Jimbo"?
|9 weeks 3 days ago||It's a long time to signing||
It's a long time to signing day fellas
|9 weeks 4 days ago||it is a good barometer of the will and desire for||
it is a good barometer of the will and desire for reason of the American male. There's been a lot to be optimistic about recently, with the gay marriage ruling the most pronounced. I never despised those opposed to this, given it's something that's been taboo in most cultures for the entirety of human history. Overcoming that takes time, not ridicule. But over the last two decades and certainly within the last 5 years the approach has been reasoned argument: "that's not natural!" was met with scientific data that shows this prominent throughout nature; "you may as well let a man marry a dog!" or "40 year old marry a 9 year old" were met with reasoned arguments as to why these things certainly weren't the same thing; people recognized they had loved ones who were gay; finally all that was left was religion, and in the west that's not enough. Yes long overdue, but reason finally won over not-reason. I see arguments on reddit, and yes I'm sure everyone here hates reddit, but I see educated people bringing facts and sound analysis and a lot of hot takes dismissed. This blog isn't a bad example of what I'm talking about on many topics. I'm hopeful that reason is the future with a more educated population and intolerance of demogoguery. But humans have have fallen away from that before - the Persians and Greeks and Romans probably thought they were there as well.
Too dramatic for this issue? Probably. But there are clear-cut issues here that popular culture has dealt with in the recent past, there's plenty to allow the majority to object to the case's handling: the evidence against Brady is circumstantial and weak; the science, where there is any, is inconclusive or supports him; there are chain of custody issues; you have other QBs in the league admitting to over/under inflated prerences; the established fine, even if found with wrongdoing, is $25,000. The case is weak, the only way out for Godell is to rely on the lowest common denominator implication of "if he didn't have anything to hide, he'd have given up his cell phone." This is the silly 'if you're not guilty then why not let the cops search your car' argument we all moved past in high school. It's shameful and Godell should be roasted by every blogger and, yes, reason-lover on the Internet.
|9 weeks 4 days ago||this is also a battle between continued lowest||
this is also a battle between continued lowest common denominator thinking and what's hopefully a more reasoned national consciousness going forward. It's worth the fight on that front alone. Foolish pundits across the country responded to the NFL's decision with something along the lines of "well not providing the cell phone makes me think he did it". This is asshole thinking, dumbed down, regardless of how one feels about Brady. Not surrendering the phone is evidence of exactly nothing, and to the extent the national debate hasn't yet recognized that, we're all worse off.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||I won't watch a Patriots game until he returns.||
I won't watch a Patriots game until he returns. Boycott should be absolute from M and Patriots fans
|9 weeks 5 days ago||the Heisman talk really needs to stop. If Peppers||
the Heisman talk really needs to stop. If Peppers were were to be any level of all-B1G this year - first team, second team, honorable mention - it would be an outstanding achievement and great boon to the defense.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Hell yes the return of the Drakes. Watched||
Hell yes the return of the Drakes. Watched Maryland game on DVR (do you remember the roughing the kicker penalty that turned 3 pts into 7, or the dropped passes / terrible throws on simple out patterns on 3rd/4th down (including Canteen's drop in the end zone, turning 7 points into 3), or the Dever-tipped pass that dropped right into Likely's hands returned inside the 5, or the missed 39-yard FG by Wile, all in addition to the Norfleet return being called back?), and Drake was easily our best back.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Marcus Ray had some really positive things to say||
Marcus Ray had some really positive things to say about Delano Hill a little while ago on WTKA. Said he impressed most among the DBs in the spring, always making plays. Also will hit people, but wasn't sure if he was the most "cerebral". Last bit is a little worrisome for a safety, but he thought Hill could take the job away from Wilson. Talked about nickel packages, Hill would be out there with Wilson, Peppers to nickel.
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Rutgers and Maryland would have been wins with||
Rutgers and Maryland would have been wins with anything other than total incompetence and lack of confidence by the team. OSU was a 7 pt game in the 4th quarter with 5 minutes to go, a 4th and 1 on Michigan's 40 yard line. Ryan almost makes the tackle. Instead it's a TD and another clown show turnover leads to another TD. No Michigan didn't deserve to win and shouldn't have won, but that was the toughest game the Buckeyes played out of their last 4. It WAS a fairly close game.
|10 weeks 2 days ago||That Leiv Onwuzurike has a||
That Levi Onwuzurike has a pretty funny twitter. It comes up automatically on 247, so no stalk.
Really need a WDE. I agree I think Murphy looks like an SDE.
On a related front, some guy from Men of the Scarlet and Gray just CB'd Donnie Corley to Michigan. Very much an outlier, I'd be curious to what that's even based on. Perhaps Corley could be MSU's "I've had them as the leader but I commit to someone other than them"...?
|10 weeks 5 days ago||The spreads surprised me as||
The spreads surprised me as well, but I assumed I didn't know enough about what they lost. This is a sobering look, but if accurate (and it appears so based on the other fans comments), I'm glad to have it.
But hey, a win will be that much better. Hopefully the interior DL makes life tough for the QB, and we get some plays from Peppers and Lewis.
|10 weeks 6 days ago||Is there a link? I did||
Is there a link? I did google, but nothing readily came up
|10 weeks 6 days ago||the run blocking of the OL wasn't that bad last||
the run blocking of the OL wasn't that bad last year. Really wasn't. The playcalling was incredibly limited because our QB couldn't stop turning the ball over, and a new scheme had to be kept simple. There were plenty of holes to run through, it's just that both Green and Smith lacked the patience or vision to hit them consistently. Brian's done a good job documenting that and it was true. The OSU game wasn't anything special in terms of playcalling, it's just that Johnson found the cracks, had the patience, and accelerated when he needed to, getting most of the yards the OL provided. He missed some holes as well, but was generally very good.
He's by far the best known commodity, but the injury causes doubt.
|11 weeks 3 days ago||glad we rid ourselves of the ladybits to make room||
glad we rid ourselves of the ladybits to make room for this
|11 weeks 3 days ago||Asimov was right, they are||
Asimov was right, they are going to test the shit out of us, and slot us into jobs for life. Remember to keep insisting that your scores were wrong...
|11 weeks 4 days ago||He will never do this, will||
He will never do this, will never stay out of the spotlight. He is an agitator by DNA. If things are going OK and he and his team are grinding/working, he'll become uncomfortable with that status quo. He'll blow something up. The Cowherd interview was this exactly - he can't just abide and grind, he needs to be changing/moving.
The odd thing is that pictures of his trip to Paris triggered the article. Those were really pleasant and showed Harbaugh as a just a happy guy. They were the most genuine and least troll-worthy posts I've seen. The fact that these writers used this as their jumping point is evidence that they've been waiting for an opportunity to wade into the Cowherd troll waters on Harbaugh for a little while. Get used to it, going to be a fantastic ride.
|11 weeks 4 days ago||He was fantastic, people||
He was fantastic, people forget about him too often. Constantly made plays, always figured out how to beat his man.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||I'm not sure there are 5||
There are a lot of unknowns though. A lot of players could click and be quite good: Kalis, Magnuson, Cole, Braden, Chesson, Canteen, Ways, Khalid Hill, one of Johnson/Isaac/Green.
I think the downside risk is small, with much more potential upside. But in terms of what's proven, there's not much.
|11 weeks 5 days ago||It is stunning to me how many||
It is stunning to me how many people have already written Malzone off. He was on campus for about 6 minutes before being thrown into the starting QB competition as a true freshman early enrollee. For much of the spring practice period, rumors kept leaking out about how Malzone looked best and could take the job. This ahead of an Army All-American and an Elite 11 4*/5*. He apparently easily passed the former, and ended up neck and neck with the latter. The spring game comes along, he looks more poised than any true freshman deserves to be. Throws a decent long ball that Ways should have pulled in, instead ends up in Watson's hands as an INT. Scrambles out of trouble and throws a dart to Winovich who looks hopelessly unable to catch anything. Morgan makes a great play on a poor decision by Malzone. Arm isn't the strongest, sure. Throws a screen that Lewis was in the area on and everyone counts that as a pick - it ganed like 12 yards.
All along he looked in command of the huddle, knew the offense, didn't look overly confused, didn't look out of place. Sure Harbaugh said Morris won the day. But I thought it was a great start for an early enrollee QB. Understanding the offense, the defense, and knowing where to go with the football are so much more important thatn arm strength. Malzone seems to have that and poise - he can certainly be the starter here someday.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||That's contrary to what many||
That's contrary to what many say. I know Sam Webb has repeatedly said Battle committed when he did to step in front of Langford. Michigan had one spot for whoever wanted to commit first, and Battle took it. Webb hinted that Langford was very interested in Michigan and perhaps on the verge of committing, hence the action by Battle.
|11 weeks 6 days ago||At least he didn't wait and||
At least he didn't wait and Tyus up any longer with his decision
|12 weeks 1 day ago||15 minutes a day, 12 times a day, with the caveat||
15 minutes a day, 12 times a day, with the caveat that commitment or actual football minutes will turn the 15 minutes into two hours.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||I see that kid as an H-back all day. A very||
I see that kid as an H-back all day. A very dangerous one: ferocious blocker, speed/moves in the flat, ability to slip into the seam and take a ball deep if the D forgets about him.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||According to this article by||
According to this article by 247, Devin Bush was measured at 5'9" at the Opening. Curios if that will affect his rating or recruiting.
Dontavious Jackson was listed as the #2 LB for the day.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Brandon Peters is getting a||
Brandon Peters is getting a lot of this. "Surprisingly athletic", "don't sell short his athleticism", "has an athleticism that will sneak up on you". I think it was Dilfer who came out and said that he's the most athletic QB at the Elite 11, without any white-guy qualifiers.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Ah thank you. Maybe that was||
Ah thank you. Maybe that was included in the link, but didn't see any context in the snippet. That makes sense
|12 weeks 4 days ago||He'll have a full year of||
He'll have a full year of guard on film (last year), and this at center. There won't be any uncertainty about his ability to play both. Now to what level is the question, but again I think his performance is certainly enough to get drafted.
I don't want to bang on Miller now that he's left, because he was decent and filled his role last year. But... as we know he lacked strength and this caused consistent problems with the OL last year. In terms of draftability, I'd bet looking at the film last year Glasgow may get comments like "leaves his combo block too early" or "rounds out when pulling / slow to get to assignment when pulling". Some of this would be due to assuming Miller has his guy, leaving, and then that guy makes the tackle as Miller gets pushed down. And Miller getting plowed back into the backfield - which didn't happen all the time, but happened often enough that I think both guards subconciously stepped too far back (so they wouldn't get stepped on by a retreating Miller). That's why I say a more consistent Kalis and Magnuson on his right and left would help his evaluation. Even though I'm sure pro scouts are supposed to take those things into consideration, I'm not sure if they always do.
I'm also hoping Glasgow in the middle will be enough of a plus over Miller that couples with an improving line, that we actually see them as "good" this year. At least in run blocking. I think we'll still struggle in pass pro.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||I'm confused on the second||
I'm confused on the second entry - another unversity's AD was commenting that Michigan was one of the most valuable brands in sports?
|12 weeks 4 days ago||Graham Glasgow will certainly be drafted next||
Graham Glasgow will certainly be drafted next year. Ability to play center and guard has a lot of value, even has game and a lot of practice reps at tackle. He's a lot better player than people give him credit for, and if he Kalis and Magnuson can play consistently next to him, his abilities will stand out more on film.
|12 weeks 4 days ago||I thought it was "swoll"?||
I thought it was "swoll"?
|12 weeks 5 days ago||I do not enjoy the fact that||
I do not enjoy the fact that not only did we lose to them, but were outcoached on both sides of the ball. They were absolutely manhandled by OSU, MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska. This bothers me, that they are able to claim a 1-0 conference record against us.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||200 words is an odd lie, I||
200 words is an odd lie, I merely posted pithy snarks at the conclusion of each article praising Peters. Yes, I declare you spaz. But I do hope my removing them gives you some peace this evening. It was probably in poor taste, and detracted from Peters' accomplishments.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||The people, including one||
The people, including one spaz of a ghost, have spoken. I have edited the OP.
|12 weeks 5 days ago||it's all in good fun||
it's all in good fun
|12 weeks 5 days ago||certainly Hoke mentioned that. my high school||
certainly Hoke mentioned that. my high school coach talked about it, as I'm sure most do. only creepy of you're not that familiar with the game
|12 weeks 6 days ago||mother fucking Rut fucking gers||
mother fucking Rut fucking gers
|12 weeks 6 days ago||how about this||
it's 3rd and 5 against mother fucking Rutgers. 3 WR. Two of them run deep routes, the 3rd runs a square-in at 10 yards.
Yes I can't wait for Harbaugh.
|13 weeks 1 day ago||He is and was a great coach, no doubt. But||
He is and was a great coach, no doubt. But Narduzzi's on record as saying Dantonio wanted to run a scheme just like he ran at OSU, with big corners and the like. Narduzzi insisted they run his aggressive press scheme because he couldn't get the personnel they had at Ohio State. By implication that says the Sparty scheme was the brainchild of Narduzzi. They're not going to suck overnight, but a combination of losing his expertise on that scheme, replacing him with coaches who aren't quite as good, and the changes they'll be forced to make given how spread teams exposed them last year, could lead to some degradation in their performance. I think that's what people mean when they talk about losing Narduzzi, and it's a valid point
|13 weeks 1 day ago||yes, watched that recently, just a horrendous||
yes, watched that recently, just a horrendous game. speaking of WR, watch our guys in that game - they just run out and turn. where's a gd head fake or double move. rounded off routes. and poor blocking too. and for fuck's sake how many stick routes do we run on 3rd and short? all of them. how about a gd slant every now and again, I mean the guy's playing off Funchess. LB is blitzing - he's already declared by moving to the DEs butt - there is no way a slant can fail if the DB is playing off.
|13 weeks 4 days ago||Cowherd, happy:||
Cowherd, happy: Ratings.
Harbaugh, happy: Sowed discomfort and diplayed no fucks given.
This is a win-win.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||He's visiting OSU the weekend||
He's visiting OSU the weekend just before his decision though. I'm betting Ohio State knows they have until then to land their preferred guys, and if not they'll take Mitchell. Everything I've read says he's had them as the first choice.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||I think people are probably||
I think people are probably thinking the other way around: perhaps Harding isn't as desired by Harbaugh's staff and may be encouraged to move on? I haven't heard any of that, but my guess is the conjecture is just as likely on M's part as Harding's.
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Still need a WDE though,||
Still need a WDE though, that's an absolutely essential need. X. Kelly and Daniel Joseph, then this kid. Need to have multiple oars in the water. I assume they'd take whoever's first.
But I'm still confused about the SDE, WDE, and Buck LB positions. We'll have an SDE position, that seems clear. Do the WDE and Buck stay on the field at the same time? If Buck is essentially a SAM who can put his hand down, doesn't that fly in the face of the nickel defense Brian and Co. have been saying Durkin will run? Nickel means Peppers as the fifth DB along with two safeties, which means two ILB's. Is that WDE the Buck LB in that scenario?
|13 weeks 5 days ago||Ace put in a ballz for him to||
Ace put in a ballz for him to M back in January. A more recent pick in June has him going to Oregon. But only 4 ballz overall.
247 does say Drevno visited him on April 30, so we're still after him, apparently.
|14 weeks 1 day ago||I like V4, much less panicky||
I like V4, much less panicky
You talk about losing mo with Xavier Kelly, but I thought he kept recruiting close to the vest. The ballz there may be even less reliable than normal. And if Daniel Joseph is really 50/50 UM vs Sparty, we should be in decent shape there. They've got two excellent WDEs and Michigan has zero and nothing established on the roster (though I have high hopes for both Taco and Marshall). Playing time should be a major sell. If we pull one of either of those two, get Mitchell, Upshur, and Gary, this is a phenomenal class
|14 weeks 1 day ago||2017, so far away. Kelly could burst or go to the||
2017, so far away. Kelly could burst or go to the NFL. Interesting news, but so much time to find an elite TE in that class
|14 weeks 1 day ago||Marcus Ray had some damning with faint praise of||
Marcus Ray had some damning with faint praise of him on Webb's show. He fit the part, passed eyeball test, big kid, good frame. Man-to-man skills were "adequate", had good feet. But overall it sounded like the kid didn't really stick out that much, other than size.
|14 weeks 2 days ago||"Studies have shown a||
"Studies have shown a majority of women know if they'll sleep with a man within 30 seconds of meeting him...
/look down at watch
"... my car's outside."
|14 weeks 2 days ago||that's what she said||
that's what she said
|14 weeks 2 days ago||who is the one quoted in the article? Agree with||
who is the one quoted in the article? Agree with everyone else, I love it
|14 weeks 4 days ago||I forgive you Jay Harbaugh||
Welcome to Michigan Devery, great news, great name
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Based on that alone, I'm||
Based on that alone, I'm going to say he'll reconsider before signing day. It's one thing to make up your mind the night before you announce something that will happen several months down the road. It's another when those months dwindle away, and faced with the prospect of actually moving that far away - in terms of distance and culture.
Alabama is going to add a shitload of DL between now and signing day, all probably higher ranked than Kareem. If competition at MSU was a factor, this kid will reconsider.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||That leaves a bit of a mark.||
That leaves a bit of a mark. But we'll see if it sticks - long way to signing day.
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Sam Webb wasn't able to go||
Sam Webb wasn't able to go gut-feeling on Kareem yesterday, he seemed to think another kid (his good friend, someone in Michigan) committing to Sparty would factor into the decision. Didn't say he was Sparty-bound, but it would affect the decision. Given Sam gave this as the response to the caller's question on Kareem, I took it as an ominous sign.
IOW, if that was something but not an overriding factor, I would have expected him to say "it'll make a difference, but M is still in good position" or something to that effect. Did anyone hear his update today (podcasts never play for me)?
|14 weeks 4 days ago||gd it who masterbated between 5 and 7 pm (besides||
gd it who masterbated between 5 and 7 pm (besides me)? Couldn't it have waited until after the announcement (no.)?
|14 weeks 4 days ago||Lorenz now tweeting about "pumping the brakes"||
Lorenz now tweeting about "pumping the brakes"
|14 weeks 4 days ago||I thought the consensus was||
I thought the consensus was that coach was a Sparty guy, didn't care for M? Totally understand that widely-accepted notion could be absolutely incorrect, but I thought that was the thinking.
|14 weeks 5 days ago||The Chaos, keep rolling with||
The Chaos, keep rolling with it. With it, In it, Through it, Around it, becoming it as One with it. This is Harbaugh. Welcome Benjamin
|14 weeks 5 days ago||The upvote is unintentional||
The upvote is unintentional friend, I tried to hit your link and missed
|14 weeks 5 days ago||Invoking 2006 really hurts your argument||
Almost doesn't count - lots of good teams almost lost somewhere along the way, but didn't. The OSU game in Columbus was one for the ages - they had a fantastic offense, so did Michigan. And USC was the best team in the country that year. 2006 was a great team.
- holy fuck that team was loaded: Henne, Hart, Long, Breaston, Manningham, Lamarr Woodley, Leon Hall, Alan Branch, David Harris, Shawn Crable (no!), Tim Jamison. They lost to two great teams, one on the road, the other a virtual road game. This was a great, great team.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||He was also 4th string at times during the spring,||
He was also 4th string at times during the spring, obviously meaning he was behind a walk-on. Harbaugh was "challenging him" to improve, but he didn't put Malzone or Morris at 4th string. He has Fall camp and plenty of time - literally years - to improve, move up, and take the job someday. But right now he's definitely the odd man out.
|14 weeks 6 days ago||this is so childish of all three parties involved.||
this is so childish of all three parties involved. none of which are Brandon
|15 weeks 2 days ago||I think you're probably||
I think you're probably right.
And I think I was incorrect - the fourth visitor Wednesday is a 2017 OL, also from NJ.
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Great news. Biggest offers||
Great news. Biggest offers from Miami, Louisville, Colorado.
Always good to get more Florida
|15 weeks 2 days ago||Is it Ron Johnson, Brad||
Is it Ron Johnson, Brad Hawkins, Amir Mitchell, and Donald Stewart that are visiting on Wednesday? Stewart went to Stanford recently, called it his dream offer, and ballz have been shifting there lately.
Johnson and one of the 2 receivers are critical in my mind. Johnson and Khalid would be a great duo at DE, but maybe more SDE types. Get them in, pull another elite WDE. If we get one of Mitchell and Hawkins this summer, there's plenty of time to bring in another elite WR.
Per 247, looks like Mitchell visits Ohio State today and ND tomorrow.