"Jim's a tough guy and you can see his personality is all over this football team," Fitzgerald said.
|1 week 3 days ago||Our coach is awesome!||
That is all...
|1 week 3 days ago||I knew I loved Jim....||
Harbaugh and that I would enjoy him being our coach long before he was ever hired. When he finally was and he did his first press conference I thought, "man, it can't get any better than this". I've been on cloud nine ever since and it seems with each passing game I see something that makes me feel like I was wrong and it can get better than this. After his freakout on the sidelines it just hit home how amazing it is to have a coach like him on the sideline. All the passion, all the knowledge and the love of the game and his team....Honestly, I love this man!
|1 week 4 days ago||I am colour blind but my 7||
I am colour blind but my 7 year old son asked me why UM were wearing purple jerseys and I argued with him for an hour, telling him they were dark blue...I hope the OP is wrong and not me....
|2 weeks 3 days ago||Its actually poorly paraphrased by the OP...||
He said it was divisive to try and pit the RB's against one another. He said essentially that a "QB contravorsey" is natural and happens, but our RB's are RB by committee and one performance like Ty's doesn't put him ahead of De'Veon. Unless Harbaugh did another presser I didn't see where he said exaclty what the OP suggests but of a different position group.
“We don’t ever talk about any kind of running back controversy, just so you know, from here on out. Quarterback controversy? I’ll address that. Whatever you want to know, like who the starting quarterback is? I will talk to you about that. But when it comes to any other position, whether it be right guard or running back or safety, there’s no discussion about any kind of running back controversy-”
That is the qoute I'm referring to...
|3 weeks 9 hours ago||After reading the title||
I clicked on this fully intent on negging the op. After reading it I couldn't stop laughing. Well done sir. I needed a good laugh!
|3 weeks 1 day ago||It's actually a pretty common||
It's actually a pretty common muscle to pull, especially in sports where cleats are used.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||oh why don't you...||
just suck my tittle.
|5 weeks 1 day ago||Love it!||
That is awesome!
|6 weeks 2 days ago||I remember...||
I remember how apprehensive I was when Hackett was hired, for no other reason than what Brandon put us through. It didn't take long for him to sooth my fears and eventually prove to be the legend we now know him to be. Harbaugh, Nike, what will be next...I love this man and what he has done for UM during his short tenure. What a guy!!
|7 weeks 14 hours ago||Seriously...||
I've been a memeber since '08 and seen a crap ton of hype videos but that is the best one I've seen. Well done my friend!
|7 weeks 5 days ago||Yeah...but you insinuated he||
Yeah...but you insinuated he had clinical depression which IS a real thing and something he probably doesn't have. There's a difference between feeling a little down and being clinically depressed. I think what you're referring to is the psychology aspect of the game of football, which is certainly a component of players performance, but that's not clinical depression .
|8 weeks 6 days ago||Well for starters...||
he could have glossed over the fact that they have been terrible for the past few years. Not that I want new coaching staffs to be overly critical of the previous regime that they replaced, but some honesty is nice. He didn'tsay "well, the special teams weren't in bad shape but we will make a few small changes to see if we can improve". What he said was basically that they've been terrible and he wants to fix them. To me, like the OP, I find that kind of straight talk refreshing. Enough glossing over just how poorly we've been. The first step in fixing a problem is admitting that there is one, and that's something the previous staff never did.
|9 weeks 13 hours ago||Yeah...||
well Irish papers are saying Ohio is a bunch of perverts! So take that Ohio paper!!
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I think your room got booked||
I think I saw your advert and when I went back to try and book it it was no longer there. Damn, I wish I had checked back on the thread earlier! Thanks for the tip though.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Thanks a bunch!||
I totally forgot to try Anr BNB and now we have lots of options. Thanks!
|9 weeks 1 day ago||I should state...||
That we are from Nova Scotia so seafood is something we get tons of here. The poster was correct that I would prefer something unique to AA.
|9 weeks 1 day ago||Our seats||
We are in row 40 section 34 (on the advice of some of the posters...Thanks for that by the way). I was thinking of a sit down place. I'm not a huge deli fan, more of a full meal type of person. I like most food (indian, thai, greek...anything really). so suggestions would be great.
|9 weeks 2 days ago||You guys are all awesome!!!||
I love everybody right now!! But seriously, thank you. Any can't miss restaraunts I need to visit while there?
|9 weeks 6 days ago||OMG!!||
Harbaugh doesn't get the rivalry!!! He thinks every game is as important as the OSU game! Fire this man immediately!!!
|11 weeks 6 days ago||We're not wrong...||
no one said (at least I don't think anyone did) that you need to have a concussion in order to develop CTE nor did anyone say that if you had a concussion you would definitely end up developing CTE. But to say they don't correlate means there is no correlation and that is clearly not true.
There is an increased incidence of CTE in people who have had a traumatic brain injury when compared to those people who haven't and thus, there is a correlation. Maybe we just disagree on what correlation means....
If your chances of developing CTE are increased by sustaining a traumatic brain injury, is that not the very definition of a correlation? Is a concussion not a traumatic brain injury?
|11 weeks 6 days ago||Dude...||
what are you talking about? Concussions and CTE don't correlate? Many very smart individuals (all of whom specialize in medicine) would disagree with you. Many believe concussions are a precursor to CTE...
|12 weeks 3 days ago||But you're putting words in my mouth...||
I never said it was a bad thing, i simply implied there are better things. Also, I didn't say they should give these people handouts, because that never works, as you point out. What I'm talking about is developing social programs to get these people back on their feet and into the workforce. I'm not advocating giving this money to charities. I'm saying there are ways to combat homelessness and hunger and that money in the right peoples hands could go a long way in doing that.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||Obviously...||
obviously you're one of those people who, you know...has a home to live in and food on your table. I would bet that to those many millions of individuals who dont have those things it makes a big difference. I'm not talking about going past a homeless person and dropping a dollar in their coffee cup, I'm talking about finding real solutions to the problem. You think giving money to a business school is more valuable than that? I guess we just disagree, which is fine.
|12 weeks 3 days ago||I agree...||
but would go even further and ask why give it to a university at all? Why not try and end world hunger or homelessness or something. A number of years ago now Ted Turner was interviewed and challanged the worlds billionaires to donate half their fortunes to elmnating world hunger. He stated that if only the billionaires did this it could elimintae it completely. The sad fact is most rich people are rich because they are ruthless and greedy. I do believe he donated half his fortune though...
|17 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah...||
I think it's pretty clear from the grammar used on those tweets that it is definitely from Mr. we don't come here to play school. At least he was honest about that. From his grammar no one will dispute that he is most assuredly not playing school down there in Columbus.
|18 weeks 2 days ago||All I have to say....||
Is good riddance. Not our problem anymore thank goodness!
|18 weeks 2 days ago||So by your definition...||
Being the CEO of a major company and drving said company into the ground is being a saavy business man? I wish I had you grading my performance!
|18 weeks 6 days ago||I don't know....||
I live in a place where people of every color live in relative harmony and haven't witnessed what many people on this board have in my life so maybe I'm just naive or ignorant, but because racism here is so rare I don't even know the real definition of it.
My question is if you state something that is based in fact is it racist? I mean, at least where I'm from, no other ethnic group names their children things that seem to have been pulled out of thin air other than African Canadians. I'm sorry but I don't think acknowledging that is racist, its just the way it is.
Of course there are silly names in all cultures, but they are generally considered names like Peabody or Gaylord or Garfield...That is different than someone simply throwing a bunch of letters together and calling it a name like Rontavius or JaMicheal (and those are actually pretty tame. My wife works for an OB/GYN and the names people come up with are incredible).. Look back through history and see when this phenomenon of crazy names began and it wouldn't be until the last 40 years, so saying they are part of their culture is a very big stretch.
I want to be clear that the last paragraph was more to the guy above you and not in relation to your post.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||It was a bit hairy||
Now that they are 7 the physical demands have lessened while the emotional/psychological demands have increased 10 fold. I keep telling myself it can't get any worse only to find out it can. Oh well, only another decade or so before they mature...I hope!
|18 weeks 6 days ago||Yeah right...||
I don't know who wrote that book but that idea is complete and utter BS. When you look at the most successful people throughout history (and most wealthy people) you begin with royalty who until the last couple of centuries have been the wealthies people. They have always used familial names hence Henry1-8 etc. The nobles, who were also among the wealthiest also followed that philosophy.
Even today you look at the people that are successful for their brains rather than athletic ability or looks and you find tons of Richards, Williams (Bills), Stephens etc etc etc. The only group of successful people I know with crazy names athletes.
|18 weeks 6 days ago||I didn't...||
We had quadruplets almost 7 years ago and our naming rules were simply: They had to be names people wouldn't make fun of, have some familial connection and thought had to be given to how it would sound when people called them by name when they were adults. See, some names sound pretty cute for babies, but when you imagine calling a grown person that name it sounds ridiculous.
I thought having four at once would make naming easy since we could pick four names instead of one, but it ended up being extremely difficult. Prior to having my own children I never realized how important naming your child is. It is one of the few things that will stay with them throughout their life time and never change (well, for most people).
|19 weeks 2 days ago||Thanks for the info...||
and of course for the laughs!
|19 weeks 3 days ago||Please don't think me||
Please don't think me ignorant, but as a Canadian I'm always confused when it comes to your two holidays. Is this the one for living Vets or for the soldiers who died. Honest question, no disrespect intended.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||I think some people...||
Just refuse to believe or simply don't understand that there are hunders more 2-3 star recruits than 4-5 star. I don't get how they can't see that this is validation.
I guess maybe if someone put numbers to how many 4-5 stars went undrafted as opposed to how many 2-3 stars did, maybe then they would believe that stars are indeed a good indicator of talent.
|22 weeks 6 days ago||+1 insightful.....You mean to||
You mean to tell me this either means Brown is coming so he's taken us off his list or that Williams took us off his list for other reasons??? You can really read the tea leaves my friend!! .
|24 weeks 1 day ago||Yeah that's right...stick up||
Yeah that's right...stick up for the abusive clown who beat up and threatened his woman. Who cares if someone who did something similar got less in the past. Maybe this is just a sign that they are going to start taking this kind of crap more seriously. I'd kick the punk out of the league for good, but then I have a big issue with women beaters...
|24 weeks 5 days ago||Edmonton....where number one||
Edmonton....where number one picks go to die....some have individual success, but why anyone would want to play for that front office is beyond me. Worst in the NHL by far.
|35 weeks 12 hours ago||I'd have to say that your writing was the problem.||
the only subject in your post was Georgia, you didn't even mention UCLA once. Therefore I don't think it is a stretch for someone to assume that you're talking about Georgia and not UCLA. I'm just saying; making fun of someone for comprehension problems when you wrote an ambiguous post is pretty "shady" if you ask me.
|37 weeks 5 hours ago||Because he didn't...||
he didn't recruit Ryan to UM, RR did.
|39 weeks 1 day ago||No....||
It was the CoT Coordinator. Or cirle of trust coordinator for those not up on college football acronyms.
|39 weeks 3 days ago||I wasn't a Hoke supporter....||
from the time he was hired I thought it was a mistake but Brady Hoke did nothing to warrant being black listed from the UM family. As much as I would have preferred a different coach, I know he did his very best and his failure wasn't from lack of effort or desire, he simply wasn't a good coach.
He shouldnt go down in UM history being mentioned with the likes of Bo or Yost, but he should be given respect for what he did here. After all, all he was guilty of was taking his dream job when it was offered to him, and who wouldnt do that? The blame for what has transpired here over the past 7 years is on DB and that is where it should stay. He, in my opinion, should never be allowed back in AA at all, let alone to a ceremony such as the one that was had when JH was introduced.
I'll always respect BH and wish him nothing but the best and hope the rest of the people (fans, alums, former players etc) in the UM sports community do the same.
|39 weeks 6 days ago||It's Kirk coupons....come on man, get with it.||
It's Kirk coupons....come on man, get with it.
|40 weeks 2 days ago||I am en route as we speak. I||
I am en route as we speak. I have never been to AA in my life and when you first made the offer I said even though I don't drink, if we got Harbaugh I'd get myself to AA for the party anyway. I believe Mgrow also said he buy the first 20 fish and chips too, but maybe it wasn't him. Well, it happened so I'm on my way from Nova Scotia and am soooo looking forward to tonight!!!!
|40 weeks 4 days ago||Can I exhale now???||
Can I exhale now???
|40 weeks 5 days ago||Really...||
|40 weeks 5 days ago||Is it really more pathetic or||
Is it really more pathetic or insecure that a guy going to a rival fan bases web site to creep and see what they're saying about them??? Pot and kettle my friend.
|41 weeks 1 day ago||If Hackett lands...||
If Hackett lands both Nike and Harbaugh he will live in UM lore for eternity! Pfft, people that that DB DB had a pimp hand...lol. Hey mr Brandon, take a lesson!!
|41 weeks 2 days ago||There was a guy||
Who said he would but the first 100 beer at Ashley's the Tuesday evening after JH was hired. I forget who it was now, but someone else volunteered to buy something else too, maybe fish and chips for the first 20 people or something. I live in Yarmouth Nova Scotia and have never been to AA before. I also don't drink but like to take part in celebrations. If JH is hired I'm taking the opportunity to see AA for the first time by hitting the party at Ashley's the first Tuesday night after his hiring. I really hope it happens, for many reasons, a big one being taking my first trip to AA.
|41 weeks 3 days ago||I guess||
I guess the title didn't "say it all" after all....
|41 weeks 3 days ago||what the heck is Moot??||
I think you mean a Moo point.
/s just in case someone doesnt get it...
|42 weeks 8 hours ago||I love that GIF||
I wish it was me throwing something at the clown!
|42 weeks 13 hours ago||Maybe...||
Maybe it's that you just don't undertsnad football, because the Mullen love is for pretty good (and obvious) reason in my books.
|42 weeks 13 hours ago||It's a reflection of Miss St.||
I find it incredibly odd that posters on this board can't understand that the univeristy has a lot to do with recruiting. When you are recruiting the south and have to compete against Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Florida State, Miami (YTM), Georgia, etc etc etc and only have Miss. State and it's history to fall back on do you really think it has any reflection on Mullen as a recruiter that he loses those battles?
Recruiting aside, looking at his performance in the SEC over the years people still come away thinking he isn't a good coach. This blows my mind. He is in the toughest conference in college football and goes to battle against those teams with 2 and 3* recuits and has built a team that competes, and this year has won it's fair share, against the powers in that conference. I'm baffled as to why people are selling this guy short. I would take him a close third behind Harbaugh and Stoops.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||huh...||
needs more HARBAUGH!!!!
|42 weeks 2 days ago||I would have||
I would have liked to have him as a fall back option....Dang!
|42 weeks 2 days ago||I hear you...||
Honestly, if Harbaugh and Stoops are no's than I would love to see either Mullen or Herman and I'm not even sure which I would rather see. I mean Mullen has HC experience, but I find the idea of Herman very intriguing.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not sure about that...||
I think the wizard hat played the bigger role in Roundtree coming here.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||If this is true....||
I love the direction this is going. A move away from all the over weight bald senior citizens to a young, in shape vibrant staff. Keep Manning on and let the rest of the dead weight go. Actually, I wouldn't be crushed if Nuss stayed on to give him an actual chace. If nothing else we saw improvement on the d-line. Just get some young guys in here.
|42 weeks 2 days ago||What IS this?||
I need to know...what is this from?
|42 weeks 3 days ago||Sad Herman is gone....||
I thought he would have been a decent option. If anyone asked me (which they certainly wouldn't, but still) I would have gone: Harbaugh, Stoops, Mullin, Herman, Miles then Mora. I would be ecstatic with any of them but that would be the order in which I would select them.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||I wasn't and english major...||
but doesn't "either" imply two? Either of those three just doesn't sound right to me, but as I say, I'm not expert.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||I'll tell you what I'd pay good money for...||
A picture with you (Mr. Smith), flashing the finger guns. I don't know if copyright would be an issue but a block M on it would be nice too. Seriously, I would donate some good money to #EATING for that.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||It's called football PTSD...||
Used to be called shell shocked. Unfortunately there isn't much that can cure the problem except winning and having things go your way for a while. Hopefully the coaching hire will be the start of that.
|42 weeks 3 days ago||I don't drink....||
and I live in Nova Scotia, but I have 2 weeks off over the holidays. If this happens I will fly to AA and go to Ashley's for what sounds like a great celebration. Celebrate the Savior of the world's birth and the savior of UM coming home in the same holiday...sounds good to me! Make it happen Jim!!!
|43 weeks 1 day ago||Love your avatar||
A picture of your finger guns is my screen saver. Never get enough of that picture. I wish I had a gif of it.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||He doesn't have anyone to blame.||
He was a big reason for the poor performances. He was a UM player so I wish him the best but as far as essential draft entries go I don't expect this one to hurt too much. I think he has the potential to be very good if he learns how to catch a ball, but that needs to be addressed.
|43 weeks 2 days ago||What?||
What, in all of this we are doing here, isn't a hypothetical discussion? We're talking about what coaches are options for a vacant head coaching job...It's ALL hypothetical.
|43 weeks 3 days ago||I completely understand where you're coming from...||
but that thread would easily reach a million posts by the end of the day. It would unclutter the board but it would make trying to find any new information very tedious if not impossible in a thread that long. For better or worse I think you have to make a new thread any time something new comes to light. The chances of people finding that one post where something new got reported in a thread as long as the one you're advocating for is likely to be would be slim to none.
Again, I agree with your sentiment, but I think the cons out weigh the pros in this instance.
|44 weeks 1 day ago||Can't edit...||
That was Harbaugh not grab whatever.
|44 weeks 1 day ago||I'm sorry....||
But 2% is peanuts. Forget the figure and look at the percentage. When football brings in the revenue that it does don't you think the getting the best person for the job is worth 2% of your budget?
|44 weeks 2 days ago||All I'm going to say is....||
I don't want to have the debate again so I'm just going to say good for him. I have been following him pretty closely since going to zona and I'm excited to watch the pac 12 championship this weekend. It should be a great game and I will always cheer for RR, much like I will always wish nothing but the best for Coach Hoke. I just hope his future is elsewhere.
|44 weeks 4 days ago||I think that went over your head...||
I think he means the women on "the view"show when he said "I didn't think THE women watch football. Not women in general, just those women. Plus I think it was a joke.
|44 weeks 4 days ago||I think||
Anyone who isn't even a little worried hasn't been paying attention to what has taken place at UM over the past 5 years. Rarely have things taken the paths that most people would have predicted and choices that seemed clearly bad ideas by most people were made anyway.
|45 weeks 2 days ago||I guess....||
I guess we know whose fault it is when our team doesn't have the proper numbers on the field.
|45 weeks 3 days ago||Agree...||
I really liked the guys comment above you with the exception of the inclusion of Lewis. I agree completely that Funchess has been dogging it for sometime, but Lewis has played well most of the year and if anything that okay showed me how badly he still wants to make plays. Other than that I think the guy had some good insight.
|45 weeks 3 days ago||I'm with you guys...||
up until a few short years ago I lived and breathed UM football. Even through the RR era I used to suffer great bouts of depression each time UM lossed a game. There wasn't anything that could drag me out of the abyss i'd find myself in after a UM loss except for my team to win. As you can imagine, that meant I was stuck there for extended periods for some of those years.
I lost something when RR was let go. Not because he was let go because by the end I was feeling like it was probably for the best, but because of the way he was treated and subsequently let go. I regained some of that with the 11-2 season with a BCS win but with each pasing game since the pain diminished.
NOw, three years later I find myself simply turing off the TV following the games and just thinking "Whatever". What's another loss? They used to be such infrequent occurances that they hurt but like so many other things, the more you're exposed to something the more desensitized you become. It sucks that I'm desensitized to losing, but there you go.
I'll end by saying the silver liniing is we're hopefully about to embark on a new chapter of UM football with a great new staff, so the eternal optimist in me is looking forward with anticipation from this point on.
|45 weeks 3 days ago||Yep...||
While he was calling these two timeouts I thought for a minute what was going through his mind. I figured he was thinking "If I just burn my timeouts early, no one can complain about me not using them late in the game...Can I get a Time out please ref? Hell, just make it two."
|45 weeks 4 days ago||Lol..,||
I'd say putting up with what we have for the past three years while still rooting for this team would suggest we are many things (particularly sadists) but fickle isn't one of them. In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya, "you keep using that word....I do not think it means what you think it means."
|45 weeks 4 days ago||!!!||
Your use of exclamation points and defence of indefensible result from BH make me wonder if you are one David Brandon, disgraced ex-AD of UM. I can't think of anyone else would do this.
|45 weeks 6 days ago||Someone may have pointed this out...||
but I think the reason for panic is the past years of football have ruined us. We forget that teams failing to show progress during the season is the exception and not the norm that it has beens shown to be in the case of the football team. I have every confidence That JB will have this team humming before long. He's no BH when it comes to player development.
|46 weeks 1 day ago||None of that matters||
Because come February coach Cal will have a meeting with his players and implement some new, super secret strategy that will win them the tournament. I can't say for sure, but it will probably involve him showing a certain player game tape of LeBron James and telling said player to "play like that". Of course that's just speculation on my part.
|46 weeks 3 days ago||Going out on a limb here....||
but is that because you get those smart kids to do your home work for you?? root/route. j/k
|46 weeks 3 days ago||lol....||
So full of win I can't stand it!
|47 weeks 2 days ago||I could cry...||
When I look at that list and see Barrett at the top I could cry. That is what good coaching and player development can do. Red shirt freshman leading the league...smh
|47 weeks 3 days ago||That Mario Kart Banana Peel....||
|47 weeks 3 days ago||But that wasn't||
But that wasn't Brimley's point. He wasn't questioning why people want BH fired, it's why people continue to make personal attacks against a coach who is clearly a genuinely good man and undeserving of those attacks. Be critical of his coaching all you want, but his character should be off limits IMHE.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I know...||
I have been away hunting most of last week so I didn't hear why Jake Butt didn't play against Indiana. While watching the game one of the announcers says it was a suspension for not giving enough effort in a previous game....I couldn't believe it. Not that someone got sat down for not giving enough effort, but that it was Jake Butt and not DF....
I love all the players on this team and want nothing but the best for them in their futures, but he has really been f*ing the dog a lot on the field lately IMHE.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||Agree 100%||
I don't want him retained at seasons end (not even close), but the guy is a class act as far as I'm concerned. A genuinely nice man who cares about his players...If he could just coach we'd be all set. Regardless how this all plays out I will always consider Brady Hoke a good person and wish him nothing but the best.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I am far from an NFL scout...||
I have proven in the past I am not a great predictor of whether a guy should go to the NFL or not (well, none of the guys I thought should have stayed for an extra year actually panned out in the NFL, so maybe I'm not THAT bad), but I think it's clear DF needs another year to try and round into a WR.
The guy only ctaches about 50% of the balls that are thrown right at him. I'm not talking about targets, I'm talking about ctahcable balls. Braylon was one thing, where he would always drop one ball he should have caught per game...DF is something entirely different. If I'm an NFL scout there is no way I draft a guy to play WR who hasn't shown an ability to catch a ball on any kind of consistent basis.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I should clarify....||
that your post was pretty innocuous and it was more of "last straw" than anything, so I apologize. I think that there are probably a few people that really do want UM to fail on every level to insure Hoke gets fired, but I don't feel that is the majority of those of us who sit on that side of the fence.
First and foremost I want this team to succeed and couldn't care less about who is the coach on the sidelines. It just seems evident to me that BH isn't a guy who can get this program to where we all want it to be. I agree that the O-line seems to be progressing and I, for one, am very happy about that. I still think BH should be fired though.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||But that wasn't my point...||
You were implying that UM fans won't be happy to know that a certain position group is making some progress because it doesn't further their agenda. I believe (as do many others from what I've read) that BH's fate should already be sealed regardless what transpires from this point forward.
That doesn't mean that we want everything related to the program to regress just so that happens. I can think a position group or two could show progress, be happy for them and still believe that BH should be fired IMHE.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I want him gone....||
But since you asked I'll try and give a real answer:
This assumes UM wins out. If that happens I think BH should still be fired if JH has an interest in coming to UM. I guess not even just JH but any top notch option (Stoops, Mullen, Miles, whomever they would be deemed to be).
If there isn't a clear upgrade that is a long-temr solution who is willing to come I think you could argue BH should be retained. He has shown he is a great recruiter, he loves UM and is a good ambassador for the university (if his coaching track record is ignored), he has a terrific graduation rate, genuinely cares about his players, and you can always hope that things will get better as the players experience increases (though evidence suggests otherwise at this point).
If UM settles for a coach that is less than a sure thing and we get BH 2.0 we could be looking at doing this entire thing over agin in 4 years. To that I would say bite the bullet and ride it out with him until that clear upgrade wants to come. It could also keep the recruiting class as close to in tact as it could be.
Having said all that, that's just the best defense I could come up with but even I'm not sure I can buy it.....I pray some top notch coach comes and rescues us from this abyss.
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I think you mean....||
|47 weeks 3 days ago||I'm getting a little sick of this stuff...||
I have to say I'm getting a little sick of comments like the one Magnus made at TTB. I'm sure there is a very small group of people who want Hoke to be fired so badly that they don't want to see success of any kind out of this football team until he is gone. For most of us though, the fact that the o-line is looking better is a nice surprise.
Some of that might be due to the belief that after the MSU game it really didn't matter how things play out down the stretch BH is gone, but even if it weren't the case I am always happy to see UM players showing they've progressed.
So in short, please stop trying to imply that all but a few "real" fans want this team to fail just so BH can be fired. The fact is all of us would much rather have seen BH be a success at UM but the last 4 years have shown us that won't be the case. Maybe we're just smart enough to see that before one of the resident football geniuses on the board.
|48 weeks 2 days ago||DB...||
DB had experience running a below average pizza outfit. There is a big difference between making crappy pizza and running an AD the size of UM 's and I'd put forth that he did a terrible job of it from the get go. The facilities thing was something that has been in the works for ages, he just oversaw it. His biggest decision was hiring the football coach, which was a ridiculous hire. Then factor in all the insane things he did after that and he proved to be a person who had no business running an AD.
My adivce would be don't go after some corporate CEO who has no experience running an AD. Pick one of the myriad AD's out there who have already proven they know what it takes to run a successful AD and get them to jump on board., With the sheer size of the UM AD I would bet that almost all AD's of other schools would jump at the chance. Let's leave the CEO's where they are and go after a proven AD.
|48 weeks 3 days ago||In that Drake Johnson TD run...||
He broke more tackles in that run than D Smith and D Green have broken in their years combined between them.
|48 weeks 3 days ago||Happy Birthday Coach||
Honestly, I hope Hoke doesn't think that people have any ill will toward him (well, some might but most don't anyway). To me he seems like a great human being who definitely loves the university and is doing his absolute best in his position. I hope he has a great birthday and life in general, I just hope his days as UM head coach are numbered. I certainly don't harbour any ill will toward a guy who is only guilty of taking his dream job when offered. Have a great day coach and hopefully you can get this team bowl eligible by the end of the season.
|48 weeks 6 days ago||As I sit here||
As I sit here in my tree stand waiting for the ten point buck I've been seeing on my trail cam to show his beautiful face, I can't think of a better way to pass the time than dancing on that clowns grave.
|48 weeks 6 days ago||Give it up...||
people said the same damn thing about the B1G. The spread can't work. This nonsense needs to die. Meyer did pretty well in the SEC with it...A&M, Auburn...do I need to go on? The reason he failed here had nothing to do with the style of offense he runs.
|49 weeks 2 days ago||Nice try Dave||
Now get the hell out of here!
|49 weeks 3 days ago||It isn't the right metaphor anyway||
The little brother thing wasn't the right metaphor anyway. I love Mike Hart but the relationship between UM and MSU is much closer to that of jilted ex-lovers than siblings with an inferiority comes.
|49 weeks 4 days ago||And...||
A second home game to MSU &OSU in football. Honestly, what has this dingbat done to earn more time as AD?
|49 weeks 6 days ago||My question is....||
do they not sell condums in LA? WTF is the problem with them that they have almost as high incidents of STD's as the adult film stars when the rest of the population has about a thhird as much?
|50 weeks 6 hours ago||No it isn't....||
no one has had subs yet!
|50 weeks 8 hours ago||Okay Brady....||
The jig is up, now get the heck outta here.
If you can't see the difference between someone saying a person is incompetent and someone saying a person is an evil person who would actively try and hurt his players either your undertsanding of the english language isn't up to scratch or your are just looking for a fight. I don't know which it is honestly...
|50 weeks 8 hours ago||smh...||
itchy trigger finger.
|50 weeks 14 hours ago||What you guys are ignoring....||
is the fact that it is MSU. Of course he has a less than stellar record against top sec teams, because he took over a perrenial bottom feeder. It takes time to build a program and Mullen has done that. Looking for flaws with Mullen is like looking for silver liniings with UM and Hoke. If you look hard enough you'll find something, but they aren't things that should change your opinion of them.
|50 weeks 14 hours ago||I've heard this a number of times....||
but from everything I have read and heard on this blog UM basically uses the NCAA clearing house as their standard for accetance into the university. There are only a very small minority who have higher standards than that, Stanford being one of them. From everything I have read the criterea for acepting athletes at UM is the same as 90 % of the other schools which is get through the NCAA clearing house. In other words, he won't have a harder time here.
To your other point, there is no reason UM can't make the next HC the highest paid in the country. If they try and the top coaches still don't want to come here than we're really in for a long haul.
|50 weeks 14 hours ago||Honest question....||
who ever said that the football world passed either ND or Ala. by other than their rival fan bases? Even during their down years they almost always started the season in the top 25 simply because they were who they were. Every year pundits claimed this would be the year they'd right the ship. It was only rivals who thought they were down for good.
I agree with Don on this 100%
|50 weeks 1 day ago||Seeing that picture...||
Loking at that picture in the post brings to mind tweedle-dee and tweedle-dumb. Honestly, as a person I do like Brady Hoke, he seems like a very nice man and I wish him nothing but the best once he leaves. DB on the other hand I would like to give a swift kick in the ass. That is one condecending jerk and the smile in that picture makes me want to give him a slap!
|50 weeks 1 day ago||lol...||
"a guy who is in so far over his head that he needs a periscope to see hell."
That is comedy gold right there. Still laughing.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||lol....||
"They’ll run the football if you let them run the football and they’re going to take shots and they’re going to complete passes if you let them complete passes, and that’s I guess what a good offense does.”
Poor Greg Mattison can't even say for sure what a good offense does after practicing so many years with the mess here at UM.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||It isn't about not agreeing with it...||
it's about the fact that his justification makes zero sense whatsoever so the presence of an alterior motive is not a leap, it's the logical conclusion.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||That's true...||
But DB didn't play basketball and (this might be a stretch) probably knows he would have little to add to the conversation when other sports are performing film sessions. I think his bench days on the football team coupled with the fact that he hired BH gives him (in his mind) the expertise required to help the coaching staff during those sessions.
|50 weeks 1 day ago||My Hypothesis....||
Like others have said, Sam Webb is pretty plugged in where UM is concerned most of the time but there have been times where he has been wrong, and this is just another of those times.
For me there are only two reasons this could be the case when you're talking about someone like Sam Webb:
1) He is getting some information that is different from every other sources that has been mentioned and Jim would actually coach under DB. At the same time he is also missing the fact that there is plenty of time for UM to hire a new AD and contact JH prior to the 49ers season ending and the feeding frenzy ensuing.
2) Sam Webb is smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds him and is, with some prompting from the inside, going to bat for DB and in so doing trying to quell the storm that surrounds him right now.
He could be doing this for selfless reasons i.e. he genuinely likes DB and wants him to stay on or for selfish reasons like wanting to keep his contacts within the AD. Either way I think I know which scenario I believe is playing out here.
|50 weeks 2 days ago||Honestly....||
as I said in another thread I just don't know what think, believe or hope for anymore. A big part of me would simply take anyone other than the two morans in charge right now but clearly that's just my frustration talking. I think they should just concerntrate on getting rid of DB right now. Once he's gone and they hire a suitable replacement I'd be happy to just let him evealuate and take things from there. Obviously I'd love Long and Harbaugh, but right now I just want to believe that DB is gone and I'll worry about the rest after that happens.
|50 weeks 2 days ago||At this point....||
I've lost all hope that anything will change. Every year I get tell myself not to get my hopes up and every year I find myself getting caught up in all the hype and optimism, only to get disappointed in the end. I have a sinking feeling that is what is happening here as well. My gut tells me if anything was going to happen it would have happened already and the further removed we get from the Shane Morris incident the less likely it is that anything will change in the AD. If DB is in place after this year there's really no point in firing BH because no one else worth their salt is going to come coach under this clown.
For the first time in the years I have rooted for UM I am in wait and see mode because I have been let down too often to do anything else.
|50 weeks 2 days ago||Dude....||
That was supposed to be this year. Everyone thought this was the year we were going to be able to do that. Now we push it back another year, then another year...10-2 ain't happening again with Hoke as HC. The players we have will continue failing to progress in any meaningful way and we will flounder yet again. This staff is simply terrible (with a couple notable exceptions).
|50 weeks 3 days ago||Really?||
Getting rid of Brandon is about a lot more than W's at least for me. Plus, why wait? He has given more than enough reason to be terminated in the past 5 years, there's no need to give him more opportunity to damage the program.
|50 weeks 3 days ago||If that...||
If that DB stays I go....Honestly, there isn't one single thing or a plethora of things the jackass could do that would save his job. I don't care who he'd hire or what he'd do, he needs to go....NOW!
|50 weeks 3 days ago||I can't remember....||
I can't even remember the last time we won a game we should have lost....Maybe when RR beat Wisconsin? Has Hoke ever pulled an upset? I mean, I know after the game statistics made it look like we won some games we should have lost, but have we actually gone in as an underdog since Hoke came and pulled off an upset? I can't remember one.
|50 weeks 3 days ago||You just did it again...||
It's almost laughable. What the above poster did that none of you attempted is provided real statistics that showed Gardner has been as good as Henne. You then go on to say, without so much as looking at any statistics, that saying Gardner is as good as Henne is ridiculous and it doesn't pass the eyeball test. What eyeball test? The one people are talking about here (the racism one)? If you don't want to seem racist maybe you should provide some support rather than just throwing out a hypothesis that is based on nothing and can be construed as racist.
|50 weeks 3 days ago||I keep having nightmares..||
I keep having this reccurring nightmare that this clown weathers this storm. Honestly, I think I'll vomit if he's still here next year. I could live with Hoke if he somehow wins out (but that would be the only way) but DB has to go.
|50 weeks 3 days ago||Yes....||
It stems from the picture of a guy holding a sign calling people "morans".
|51 weeks 1 hour ago||Yeah...||
Well outside ND, who have we played this year with a pulse?
|51 weeks 1 day ago||Honestly....||
The new guy could be Donald freaking Duck and I'd still be happier than I am right now. Just get rid of this moran already!
|51 weeks 1 day ago||if he hasn't played this season...||
and isn't due back until January I think the red shirt is implied.
|51 weeks 1 day ago||lol...||
as garbage as his pizza was, it's still to good of a severence package for this clown. If anything he should be refunding his salary to the university if there was any justice in the world. Oh, and nice avatart btw.
|51 weeks 1 day ago||Oh come on...||
I think you need to add on another year or two now that the lack of O-Line camps have come to light. Seriuosly, that should be buying coaches another year or two for sure.../s
|51 weeks 1 day ago||Please, please please...||
in the name of all that is good and holy in the world let this come to pass! Also, please let the next guy not be an attention seeking whore like DB. Being back in the shadows is a good thing for an AD
|51 weeks 1 day ago||lmao....||
that was well played. I love when people mix up common sayings up like that. I wish i could plus you more!
|51 weeks 1 day ago||IF....||
If this team shows improvement from this point through the end of the season I could live with Hoke coming back (I might throw-up in my mouth a little, but I'd live). Brandon should be gone regardless.
As for the rest of the staff, I think Nuss should get to decide what happens on offense and Matt decide what happens on defense and Hoke just rubber stamp everything.
I'm sorry. I know BH is a nice guy but he is a complete buffoon. He needs to have as little to do with everything (other than coaching the dline) as possible if this ship is going to get righted.
I want to see what Nuss can do with coaches he believes are good at their job. The defensive staff I'm pretty ambivalent about at this point. If they stay fine, if they go fine. I wold like to see Manning stay on though.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||Wow...||
this is what competent (actually excellent) coaching feels like. If only we could get someone on the football staff that would yield results such that we would expecting year to year jumps in talent the way we do in BBall. It used to be the opposite and BBall was where recruits went to regress. I guess that give us hope at any rate.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||lol....||
That might hold up if every linemen in the country was underdeveloped but spoiler alert....that's not the case. That was one of the lamest excuses in a long line of lame excuses from BH.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||That doesn't help much...||
why do you have to be big to play free safety?
|51 weeks 2 days ago||On the practice squad....||
but as a OG not a DL.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||I'm not a football genius...||
I want to state this going in so if my idea is bad people may take some mercy on me. It seems like a common opinion that BC struggles in man coverage but we have seen that he is very good in zone and is an able tackler as well. He has good speed and is a bit of a ball hawk when playing zone. With this in mind and our struggles at the safety position, couldn't we push him to safety where we are in need of someone to go along with Wilson?
Wilson has played some strong safety and if BC played FS he wouldn't be used so much in run support so he could then utilize he zone and ball hawking prowess in a centerfield role.
I mean, as I said I'm no genius so there is something that obviously makes this option impossible, but could some explain to me that would be because I don't know enough to figure it out.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||I don't know...||
WHO DOES NUMBER 2 WORK FOR???
|51 weeks 2 days ago||I think...||
During the fake punt Penn State should have run the play that was front paged a week or so ago where the team playing Miam (YTM) fell to the ground as if he were dead. That would have drawn less attention than the guy in motion did...truly had to smh when I was watching that fake attempt.
|51 weeks 2 days ago||Awe dude...||
I love the blue pants! I think this is the first time I have disagreed with anything you've posted. The jersey's on the other hand are another story.
|51 weeks 3 days ago||Happy Thanksgiving my friends||
Deep fryer is heating up and the turkey is ready to go in. Have a good one!
|51 weeks 5 days ago||This is tough to watch...||
I'm looking forward to watching the Arizona/USC game later tonight. I do hope we turn it around though. Let's go Blue!
|51 weeks 5 days ago||No surprise||
Fred Jackson is one of many terrible coaches on this staff. You have to wonder about the last guy he coached that actually got better as his career progressed.
|51 weeks 6 days ago||But that's not really the point...||
it doesn't matter that what he's doing isn't effecting you, the point is it certainly seems as if he's trying. As many posters have previously stated, when RR was under fire there was no movement to involve former players to quell the storm. The AD just let things unwind because it suited what they wanted to do all along, which was fire RR.
Fast forward four years and what's the difference? Well now we have a team that has been going backwards for four years so that is certainly different. The other difference is this coach was hired by this AD. Firing Hoke would have been admitting he failed and this DB can't handle that. So what does he do, organizes former players and coaches current players on what to say and do to try and protect him, and in so doing try to buy some symapthy from the regents and president.
It doesn't really matter that you aren't effected by this, the intent is certainly there, and that's what is rubbing people the wrong way especially given that this "support" was nowhere to be found for either the players or the coaching staff the last time around.
|1 year 7 hours ago||I don't think you get how protests work....||
I don't mean any offense as I enjoy you as a poster, but I don't think you understand how protests work. If you dislike something enough to launch a protest, yuo don't do it while sitting in the basement of your house. You do it out in the open for all the world to see. That's how change comes about. It isn't doing anyone a damn bit of good typing on their keyboards or jumping up and down screaming in their basements. It's only when they let the higher ups know how disgruntled they are that things might change, and to do that it has to happen in a forum like this.
|1 year 9 hours ago||I think the thing that bothered me most...||
I wanted RR to have another year but understood that after the bowl game it wasn't going to happen. For me he had always been a coach I loved to watc, and the fact that we had him and let him go left a bad taste in my mouth. I thought he was badly mistreated and felt sorry for him when his time to leave ultimately came.
I felt bad when the timing of the firing left he and his staff little to no chance to find a job for the upcoming year. This is just another reason I hate DB. His process didn;t just screw UM (which I think we deserved given everything that happened) but it screwed that coaching staff out of employment.
The final staw for me was when whichever station he worked for thought it would be a good idea to get an interview with BH and have RR conduct that interview. That was a disgrace IMHE and one I won't forget. I think BH and RR both conducted themselves with class during that interview, but whoever was responsible for setting that up should have got a kick to the nads.
The culmination of all these things has made it easy for me to have a soft spot for RR following his departure from UM and honestly, I look much more forward to watching his Arizona team play nowdays than I do my favorite Wolverines. Hopefully the next hire will bring some excitment back to UM football.
|1 year 9 hours ago||Absolutely...||
and more than likely they are the ones saying Hoke deserves another year to get things going. The hypocracy of that faction is beyond belief.
|1 year 9 hours ago||Don't take it too hard....||
it's just that you're a bear and deductive reasoning isn't in your DNA....It'll be alright.
|1 year 9 hours ago||Herein lies my problem...||
I want UM to win more than anything else related to football. To me it doesn't matter who coaches so long as the product on and off the field is one UM can be proud of. For me though, BH has proven he can only get part of that done as the on-field product is nearly unwatchable. I will root for this team every game they play and hope that we win out. The problem I see is if we do that and finish the year 8-4 or even 7-5 DB will say "look at the turn around BH made, here...have a 5 year extension".
With RR he finished 7-6 but was 2-6 in his last 8 games. If BH finished 7-6 but goes 5-2 in his last 7 will DB really move on? I sure hope that douchebag DB is gone and doesn't get the chance to make the decision because I have absolutely no faith in him making the right one.
|1 year 13 hours ago||This point can't be overstated...||
Whomever goes to this event has to be a well spoken individual who is well aware of ALL the issues fans have with DB. The second this president gets even the slightest inclination that this is about wins and losses he will stop taking anything else people say on the subject seriously. The wins and losses are meerly a symptom of the larger issue and that needs to be clear when addressing the president.
|1 year 1 day ago||I think you're missing the point...||
I don't think anyone involved is interested in sending a message to DB, he already knows most fans hate him and isn't bothered in the least. The point is to let everyone ELSE know how hated DB is by the fans.
DB isn't going to resign or fire himself for being a complete douche, people want the ones with the power to do that to understand how unhappy things are right now so whether money is made or not in this case is irrelevant.
|1 year 1 day ago||Seriously!||
I love that lil' dude. I'm with Ace: this guy needs infinite eligibility. He and A Dakich should both get it and would be an amazing team IMHE.
|1 year 3 days ago||I'm at a loss||
If the culture you want to create is one of losing, dishonestly and incompetence than sure, give him another year. Honestly, if this guy was Rich Rod he would have been run out of town ages ago. The double standard is laughable.
|1 year 4 days ago||Anyone have a stream for the game?||
|1 year 6 days ago||Fred Jackson||
Should be the first to go.
|1 year 1 week ago||I'm not entirely sure..||
I'm not entirely sure about there not being an advantage to letting him go now. My memory is foggy here so forgive me, but when Fickell took over at OSU and Meyer was hired prior to the end of the season didn't the NCAA give OSU some sort of allowance that made it possible for Fickell to coach the team while Meyer jetted around the country recruiting?
|1 year 1 week ago||I think you're leaving something out though...||
at this point it is pretty clear to most that DB is pulling the strings. There is no chance (in my opinion) given what we've seen from DB that he didn't spoon feed Hoke exactly what to say (or perhaps better, not say) during his press conference. If Brady did anything it was under the direct commands of DB, his boss. I want BH gone for what has transpired on the field, but DB gets my anger for what has been going on with the whole concussion debacle.
|1 year 1 week ago||As a die hard fan....||
I have been a die hard fan for the better part of 30 years but given what has transpired over the past few years I wouldn't judge anyone for looking away at a time like this.
For me though, I just can't do it. I still have to plan my Saturday's around watching the game, i just can't help myself. One thing I will say is I share the sentiment of many others who have become emotionally detached at this point. I watch the games because I can't bring myself not to watch them, but I go in expecting poor results so when that happens, I'm not disappointed.
It used to be that when UM lost I would be in a funk for days, probably until they won their next game which as you can imagine, when it was a bowl game that funk lasted a long time. Now I just shut the tv off and go about my business. I can tell if this whole thing has been therapuetic or soul crushing at this point. Maybe this is the way most fans usually feel, but it's never been my experience where UM is concerned. I hope one day it will come back!
|1 year 1 week ago||I just didn't execute....||
|1 year 1 week ago||Wow....||
mea culpa....The content on this site has been so hectic of late I missed all of this. Too focused on the fiasco i guess. Anyway, apologoes to everyone and mods....please delete.
|1 year 1 week ago||As always...||
well said. Since I can't say it better I'll simply add this:
It seems like Todd Howard has taken a page out of the Dave Brandon/Brady Hoke playbook in that he treats fans like something they scraped off the bottom of their shoe. The condesending tone these people use when speaking about the fans makes me wonder wny any of us bother.
One other thing I'll note: It isn't the fans who are the priviledged ones. As paying customers we have a right. It is the athletic teams, athletic department and all it's employees and coaches who are the priviledged ones. They get to run around and make money off playing and coaching sports while we pay to see the product on the field.
So if some of us get a little upset with things like cost of tickets, game experience, the feeling of being a part of something, winning games, feeling pride in the institution take a big hit I don't think some condesending rant is going to make things better...maybe that's just me though.
|1 year 1 week ago||Couldn't resist||
"If his DB keeps giving up long pass plays and is constantly screwing up by being in the wrong position"....He'd be Todd Howard.
|1 year 1 week ago||I can tell you this...||
If this were the case I would be happier than a kid at Christmas. I'm not one to enjoy anyone losing their job, especially in economic times such as these, but let's face it, DB has been overcompensated for the job he's done. As many posters have already outlined the many issues most of us have with Brandon I won't bother wasting everyones time but suffice it to say he is deserving of this fate and I hope beyond hope this comes to fruition. The problem is the past couple of years have made me believe that (at least where football is concerned) we can't have nice things so I'm having a hard time getting excited just yet. Please, please be right!
|1 year 1 week ago||Man...||
GMAT must be thanking his lucky stars he's not OC<HC or the AD right now. I bet he was never so happy to have such a short press conference.
|1 year 1 week ago||If it's not....||
If it's not a new AD I'm not interested, so don't wake me up.
|1 year 1 week ago||Well jeepers...||
They have to at least look like they're doing something for their pay cheques....
|1 year 1 week ago||Honestly....||
I know the press (with the exception of the blog staff) take incompetence to new levels, but who would take the time to go to a press conference in which they didn't know who they would be addressing? I mean if this is common practice no damn wonder the questions are so ridiculous, they don't even know who they're going to be asking questions of...
I can see in their heads now: sitting in a room adorned with UM logo's etc thinking "damn I hope it's brad pitt and angelina this time, I've tried every place else....Nope, just some old, bald guy in a Michigan shirt....Oh well, I'll try again tomorrow." WTF?
|1 year 1 week ago||Who are you....||
The new AD? HOnestly, you speak with such authority on this you must be someone who will actually make the decision. You know who fits the criterea you just mentioned to a tee? Brady Hoke, that's who. A lower level head coach (coached in the MAC and MWC) Successful in those stops (won coach of the year in each of them). Let's be clear, you don't know the formula any better than anyone else.
The other posters are being realistic while your plugging your ears, spinning around singing "la, la, la, I can't heear you". You can keep your head in the clouds if you want, but the bottom line is there is a pretty good chance that there isn't a really good quality HC out there that has the experience you say is essential and willing to leave his current job for this one.
This is why people are throwing coordinators names out there. Because in the absence of an HC with a proven track record of success, the next set of candidates should be highly successful coordinators. You don't simply write them off the list because they aren't HC's.
In your world you do that and move to the unsucessful HC's as the next potential candidates to fill the job....that's some brilliant strategy. Remind me not to call you next time I'm in need of a head hunter for a position I need filled.
|1 year 1 week ago||Damn...||
If I weren't already on casll for the week I would be buying a palne ticket right now to fly to Michigan and attend this. Honestly, good for any of you who will be attending this very worthwhile cause. Hopefully it will yield some results! Fire this clown!
|1 year 1 week ago||Please, please please...||
Let this regents meeting be about firing this f'ing clown. Honestly, at this point I don't even care what happens to BH it's DB that I want gone today, we can worry about Hoke later. Someone get that petition to the regents so they can go over that too.
|1 year 1 week ago||I agree with you...||
I think the most plausible explanation is that DB thought he could bully the medical staff into saying he didn't have a concussion. I think that it iwhy it took him so long to release a statement, because he didn't mind throwing BH out there to lie to the press, but there was no way he was going to do that until he knew what the medical staff was going to say. Once he found he couldn't strong-arm them into "toeing the party line" he knew the jig was up and tried to make excuses.
I said this would happen at the beginning. As a doctor I know the oathes we take and most (and I stress most) take those seriously. We also know that we can take our expertise anywhere in the world and have no trouble finding a job. Dave Brandon and Brady Hoke on the other hand, don't have a hope in hell of getting hired again at their chosen profession if it is shown that they are incompetenet at their job, so doing whatever it takes to keep it isn't surprising. I knew that if asked, the medical staff would tell this clown where to shove it. Well done people. Leave these two jokers to flap in the wind.
|1 year 1 week ago||Add to this farce....||
that Morris was making his first start over a healthy Gardner and was struggling mightily in doing so and what do you think the chances are that he would willingly come out of the game? He doesn't want to give up the starting QB position. This is absolute lunacy.
Also, he said in the post game presser that the medical staff cleared him to play, but he didn't know if he had a concussion. Well how could they clear him to go back in without assessing him for a concussion? What sort of medical staff would look at that guy and not at least assess him for a concussion? The ineptitude of this program is almost comical if it wasn't so sad!!!
|1 year 1 week ago||If they won't do it.....||
Someone needs to get on the kickstarter asap. Lets get this guy outta here now.
|1 year 1 week ago||People need to let this fear go....||
The program is already on the fast track to nowhere with these guys in charge. The quicker a change is made the quicker the rebuilding can start.
Also, I don't think a coaching change is necessarily a sure thing to set us back. Honestly, look at penn st. They hired the right coach and things turned around almost instantly after O'Brien took the helm. Make the right hire and add to that the fact that (at least currently) we have a roster full of talent with no sanctions and this could turn around in a hurry. We just need the right guy for the job. Now if DB is still in charge when that search happens I have little faith that will be the case.
|1 year 1 week ago||I think 100%....||
That it was a misunderstanding or a mistake. I would never believe that BH would intentionally put a person health at risk. The problem is the mistake (potentially) happened and that's his fault. As the coach you have to know these things, you can't guess or assume. If there is doubt you err of the side of caution and get the player out. Hell, for me it would just have been a good excuse to get Shane out of the game, he was playing terrible anyway. The fact that (at least it appears to me) no assessment took place to determine whether SM had a concussion or not is an indictment on this coaching staff. The fact that they didn't just come out and say right away that "we should have done so but weren't aware that a concussion was even a possibility" makes everything they have said since seem like a cover-up.
|1 year 1 week ago||This isn't an attack on his character...||
and I don't even think SM has a concussion (though that is just based on what I could see) but the fact is he should definitely have been assessed for one after the hit to the head he took. If you can't see that then I don't know what can be done for you. The fact that one wasn't done is the indictment here, not whether BH is or isn't being honest.
|1 year 1 week ago||Agreed...||
That's what is being missed here. When Hoke said he didn't know, that tells me he was never assessed for one. If he had Hoke would know that he didn't have a concussion because he was cleared to go back in. If the answer was no, he would know he had a concussion. The only way you can be unsure is if he was never assessed for a concussion and that, in this case, is negligence IMHE. Every hit to the head should be followed by an evaluation for a concussion.
|1 year 1 week ago||Magnus...||
are you really BH? That sounded like a BH answer....
Also, and this is only from what I could see on TV and hear the analysts saying, the trainers were only looking at the leg. Again, they didn't focus soley on what was happeneing with Morris obviously, but all the treatment I saw was focused on his leg. As a Doctor I don't believe they had time to complete an assessment for a concussion in the time prior to him being reinserted.
Again though, from what I saw I don't believe he had a concussion, but after a hit like that he should have been evaluated for one.
|1 year 1 week ago||I agree with you...||
in that I don't think he was concussed, but after a hit to the head he should have been assessed, plain and simple. You're right that there are multiple collisions going on every play, but very few are as violent as hits on qb's because most times they aren't even aware they are going to get hit. A hit to the head should be assessed every time just like in hockey.
|1 year 1 week ago||It's not the popular opinion....||
but having watched the play a few times in slow motion and watching SM following benig removed from the game I'm inclined to think there wasn't a concussion. Now that doesn't mean he shouldn't have been taken out of the game and assessed for one, because he should have. What I saw was what looked like SM buckling under the pain in his leg, falling over and grabbing on his OL to take weight off his leg.
I think there after a hit like that he should have been removed and asessed for a concussion, but I do think the finding would be that he didn't have one. He was clearly injured, but I don't think it was his head.
|1 year 1 week ago||Huh....||
You don't fool me Brady, I know that's you.
|1 year 1 week ago||Umkay||
I mean, I know he wears a wizard hat, but he's not really a magician, you do realize that right? This is Arizona we're talking about here. If he gets them to the point where he is consistently beating those teams and winning the Pac 12 I would say that makes him....let's see...the best college coach of all time.
If he can manage to beat any of those teams each year he's there while staying in the 8-9 win territory that would be considered a huge success in Arizona. If he gets the program to a better place than that he should be annually winning coach of the year.
Look, I know lots of the people on here hated RR, but if any of you are honestly still claiming BH is a better coach than RR you are either lying to yourself or lying to everyone else. It's as plain as the nose on Hoke's face, RR is the better coach and it isn't even close. Imagine how Arizona would be doing right now if the hired BH?
|1 year 1 week ago||What I would want to know....||
Is how was he assessed for a concussion and subsequently cleared of having one, quickly enough for him to be reinserted when Devin's helmet came off. He clearly states in that release that it isn't the coaches decision to reinsert an injured player, but that of the medical staff. So how did they assess Morris for a consussion AND an issue with his leg, and get that information to Hoke in time to put him in the game when Gardner's helmet got knowed off. That would have to be the sequence of events because Hoke evidently doesn't have the authority to put a player back into the game after injury until cleared by the medical staff.
Until now I didn't think this issue was quite as big as many people, but now he (with the help of the university) is outright lying and that pisses me off even more. I would bet that the medical staff have more in the way of ethics than the rest of the athletic department so maybe someone should get them on the record to see if they really did assess Morris for a concussion. I don't think loyalty to UM will be enough to trump losing their medical license (or other disciplinary action) if they were found to be lying. I mean, they can get a job anywhere but Hoke has tons to lose. No one is going to hire this guy to coach football ever again, so if he loses this job, that's it for him.
|1 year 1 week ago||I disagree...||
If we don't make a bowl game (which is a real possibility at this point) I think he is fired as soon as the season ends. If by some miracle we make one, he probably gets the bowl game and then he gets his walking papers. If he doesn't get fired at all....I may have to give up on football for next year.
|1 year 1 week ago||And USC the year before||
Obviously the guy posting doesn't know what he's talking about.
|1 year 1 week ago||The biggest hole in this theory...||
for me the biggest hole in this theory is that "it makes sense". As long as DB is athletic director it's pointless to imagine anything that makes sense will occur. So, until UM gets a new AD I htink it would be more worthwhile to look at what possibilities seem to make the least sense and would piss off the fanbase the most when considering what is most likely to happen.
|1 year 1 week ago||Well....||
Carlosspiceywiener has a kickstarter going for his golden toilet so he can read that while on his throne here in AA. This is seeming more likely by the minute!
|1 year 2 weeks ago||I've said this before....||
but literally literally nothing sports related would make me happier than for this team to run the table in the B1G and end up 10-2, win the B1G Championship and a bowl game and BH keeps his job. I'm also one of the people who would rather we had a better coach, but the most important thing to me is UM winning, not me having my preference at HC.
I think everyone should try hard to remember none of this is personal, and we should't take it that way. None of these coaches want us to be losing and what makes it easier to support them is, aside from everything else, they are awesome human beings. So I agree iwth the OP, let's get back on the bandwagon. No amount of grumbling is going to change the outcome anyway so lets just enjoy the fact that if nothing else, we have great men at the coaching posiitions. The rest will all look after itself.
Now if anyone wants to moan about Brandon, be my quest, I have no silver lining where that man is concerned.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Right now...||
I can't imagine there is anything joyless about a victory. In the times of yesteryear when winning was a given I can see being critical of a victory, but not now when they seem so few and far between. The losses have lost there sting to some degree, but that has only made the few mins that much more enjoyable when they happen, at least for me.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||I disagree with all of you...||
I said this in a previous thread, but that throw was slightly less than perfect, yes, but still a very catchable pass. The problem with that pass goes back a couple of series when Gardner left DF out to dry by leading him right into an oncoming safety and he got blasted. If that hadn't happened I think DF stretches out to get that pass without hesitation. But because of that pass DF didn't have the confidence in DG and wasn't certain he wasn't going to open himself up to another huge hit. I watched the replay a number of times nad that was definitely in DF's wheelhouse. It should have been caught, but I don't fault him for not extending for it given what happened earlier in the game and left him on the sidelines.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Funchess miss||
That drop DF had was a direct result of that throw you pictured above. When you have a QB that hung you out to drop a few series earlier, you tend to be a little apprehensive going over the middle and laying out for balls. I was angry at the time, but it wasn't long before I remembered that hit he took going over the middle on the earlier throw. If Gardner doesn't make that pass and lead him right into the defender, he probably stretches out with both hands on that slant and makes the catch.
On the other throw you pictured I actually think DG was throwing there intentionally (which may be giving his accuracy a little too mch credit). I think this because (if this is the play I think it is) there is a defender just outside of the screen coming in for the kill shot on DF and if he leads him on this throw the same result will occur. This throw forces DF to slow down and reach in the opposite direction of the hit and thus cushions the blow. Either way he shouldn't have thrown it as he was triple covered, but at least the location of the throw made sense to me at the time.
This just plain hurts. I don't know what hurts more, the current state of our program or the fact that all these losses don't hurt like they used to. I hate that these are becoming the norm and thus a part of everyday life. As Brian said, there was a time that a UM loss had me down in the dumps until they won again. Now I simply turn off the tv and carry on with my night. Honestly...it hurts that the losses don't hurt...this is depressing.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||That would be nice...||
I really like Brady as a person and respect him for the father figure he has become for these young men. He has a lot of traits you want associated with a program like Michigan, but not of the head coaching variety.
If he loves UM as much as he says he does perhaps he stays on as dline coach and allows UM to hire an new HC. He's probably under contract for at least another year after this one anyway, so get something out of him for it. That may keep recruits and current players from bailing and allow for some continuity within the program while also addressing the need of a new HC.
Of course all that would be contingent on the new HC not wanting to bring in his own guys. If he did, maybe Brady could be recruiting coordinator.
/s, but it would be nice.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Plus a bloody billion!||
Hindsight being what it is and all that. Given the choice of BH or a DC of RR's choosing (whihc we all knew would have been Casteel) I would take that every day of the week. Sorry Brady, you're a great guy but a crap coach.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Over...||
what's over? Is he getting fired tonight? Next week? At the end of the season? I don't even have enoough faith in DB to get rid of Hoke even if we lost all our remaining games.
What else could be over? The season? No, we have like 9 more games to suffer through this coaching incompetence, so that's not over either. If you mean a shot at the B1G than granted, he probably knows that's over.
I do feel bad for Hoke because he is obviously a nice human being and he has a lot of very admirable characteristics. I would love to have him stay on as like the d-line coach or something. He can recruit like crazy and really seems to know how to relate to young men and their families. He simply isn't (and never has been) a great or even good HC.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Dave...||
I hope you have been drowning your sorrows in a lot of liquor because any sane person who couldn't detect the sarcasm in that post needs serious, serious help.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||yes...||
because people have to hate and fear you to be a good head coach. I find it funny that some around here think there is only one way to be successful at something. You don't have to be Nick Saban to win at football. I have coached numerous sports and I don't believe any of my players either hated or feared me (I could be wrong, but I don't think they did) and not to tto my own horn but I have had pretty good succcess coaching.
I've alsoplayed sports my whole life and for some pretty successful teams. The teams that I played on that enjoyed the most success were for a coach that knew his limitations and frequently asked us (the players) for input in gameplanning and practicing etc. He was a very nice man who made us laugh on a regular basis, pretty much a class clown type of guy. None of us feared him and still we won the provincial championships three years in a row under him.
Brady Hoke is a good guyand I'm getting sick of people who can't separate personal things from coaching issues. I have issues with some things he's done and have openly questioned many things he's done. As an adult though I can disagree with someone and not make personal attacks or try and make everything that person does a problem.
If you don't like his play calling fine, bring that up. If you think he has made questionable hires or shouldn;t have shuffled the coaches, ok. When you start making his english a talking point or the fact that he's a nice guy...many people are going to stop taking anything you say seriously because at that point, it becomes evident that you're just trying to find anything to further your narrative.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||not that more pressure wouldn't be great...||
but I really think other teams are going primarily with short drops to nullify that. When watching the games it sure seems like the passes are getting out awfully quick and when that happens it's just tough to get pressure. When guys are playing man and can't get a jam at the line with the receiver running a slant it's pretty much just pitch and catch. I don't know anyone who could get pressure in these circumstances. The corners need to interrupt the routes a little IMHE.
|1 year 2 weeks ago||Again....I'm usually critical of Hoke....||
But this seems silly. If this is a direct qoute and in context I take it to mean the CB's felt embarrased by the way they played not "they got embarrassed out there". There is a difference between someone being embarrased by something and someone being an embarrassment. to a team (or any other entity). I think in this case Hoke was just saying the guys felt bad about the way they played, and they should have.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||Yeah....||
put me in the camp of those who thinks this is a good thing personally. It puts a year between Green/Smith and Isaac and allows him to get acclimated to the University a bit. I don't see a huge downside here unless DG and DS forget that in football, like with women, you want to hit the hole.
|1 year 3 weeks ago||I thought KLS...||
Was destined for WDE. Surely with the size of DR he will be either SDE or DT.I mean I'm not expert, but he seems too big to be a WDE.