also duty-free guys falling over and grabbing their shins
|1 week 1 day ago||Jumped Out||
QB (Gardner), 3rd string QB (Speight),
DL: Charlton, Poggi, Ojemudia, Pipkins, Clark, Henry, Mone,
OL: Cole, Glasgow
Welp... 7 defensive linemen; OL sounds just great.
|35 weeks 6 days ago||UConn, Cincinnati, and USF||
UConn, Cincinnati, and USF are the only legacy Big East schools left in the American Athletic Conference. In a post-BCS world with conference expansion on hold for now, it's not a place I'd want to be.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||South of the Golf Course||
No alumni are ever going go back and feel like this piece of land is "on campus" or even like main street. It's south of the golf course next to a parking lot and to me sounds more like "down by briarwood mall". It's not a walkable area, so any development is not going to have the character you're looking for.
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Math - Part 2||
$9 million / 16.7 acres = 540k / acre. Here's a vacant parcel on the main st side next to the golf course listed for 667k / acre. It's for residential development instead of commercial / mixed use, and it's 1.45 acres not 16.7. I have no real estate background but it seems like $9 mil is reasonable based off of that...
|36 weeks 6 days ago||Math||
The appraised value was 3.1 million and the taxes were 180k (~ 6%, Ann Arbor residents, does this sound accurate?). U-M is offering 12.7 mil. The city would have to match that bid in order to keep it from U-M. In my opinion that means they'd need to sell it to some tax paying user for at least $9mil to make sense financially (lose 3.7 mil and get paid back in tax revenues of 540k per year, ~7yr simple payback period).
|1 year 11 weeks ago||Defense: Back 7||
Jake Ryan, Desmond Morgan, Tom Gordon, Courtney Avery, (and Jordan Kovacs), all ranked 600+ in their classes. 5 of of 8 starters in the back 7 (nickel).
Major overachievers as a group.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Samir: Hmm... well, why don't||
Samir: Hmm... well, why don't you just go by Mike instead of Michael?
Michael Bolton: No way! Why should I change? He's the one who sucks.
|1 year 12 weeks ago||Reference: http://mgoblog.com||
UFR Michigan Defensive Formation # of Plays Charted - 2011 Season
|1 year 15 weeks ago||N||
|1 year 16 weeks ago||Best data set on NFL Draftees:|
|1 year 16 weeks ago||Strategic? Implications...||
Mathlete argues the opposite of this logic that either he or Brian has put forth in the past: "even though the expected return is higher, the (kick) receiving team should not take touchbacks because the variance of the return is lower (zero)".
The offense should be interested in high variance, big play opportunities. The defense should be interested in limiting those opportunities, even if that means sacrificing a modest amount of field position on average.
Also, we don't have data for hang time. I'll bet if you did and you could eliminate shorter punts that did not have superior hang time, the results would look different.
Also to assume a "law of large numbers" approach when you only punt ~40-60 times per season and not account for who you're kicking to seems foolish. Look at the separation in Punt Return Yards (Average):
|1 year 21 weeks ago||A major college football||
A major college football rivalry in the other division of its conference commanding all of the attention? Nebraska has never heard of such a thing.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||They should've signed Quin||
They should've signed Quin Blanding.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Well those are the only||
Well those are the only scholarship & non-true freshmen WRs this season.
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Chris Bryant||
No mention of Chris Bryant, he's about 6.5 months off his broken leg. Anyone know if he's participating in spring practice?
|1 year 22 weeks ago||EDIT Request: "Tigers Release||
EDIT Request: "Tigers Release B. Boesch"
Before this turns into a OMG-what-happened-to-Kyle-Bosch-and-why-did-the-OP-spell-his-name-wrong?-thread
|1 year 22 weeks ago||Fail||
And another EA Fail:
"With the victory, Robinson becomes the third Michigan Wolverine to appear on the cover of an NCAA Football title after former Heisman Trophy Winners Desmond Howard (NCAA Football 99) and Charles Woodson (NCAA Football 2006)."
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Wheat Thins > Lil' Wheat||
Wheat Thins > Lil' Wheat
|1 year 23 weeks ago||Spring Game?||
With Fitz injured and Derrick Green/Deveon Smith both not yet on campus, the RB position for the Spring Game is kind of a punt, no?
More Rawls/Hayes (Johnson/Norfleet?)
|1 year 24 weeks ago||Trolling argument: "If the||
Trolling argument: "If the WDE is an "OLB" coached by the OLB coach Roy Manning, then we have 4 LBs on the field, which is a 3-4 defense."
Questions about switching to a 3-4 defense kept coming up last year (because of DL depth issue), and Brian and Co. explained at length over and over again how a 4-3 under is basically the same thing. So no we're not "switching" to a different defensive scheme.
|1 year 24 weeks ago||"I presume this means Hoke||
"I presume this means Hoke will continue with the nose tackles, Mattison will take the SDEs and 3techs, and Manning will be in charge of both the SAMs and WDEs."
So basically you're saying we're switching to a 3-4 defense then? /trolling
|1 year 25 weeks ago||Aren't the Canadiens kind of||
Aren't the Canadiens kind of the Notre Dame of the NHL? (Except for the part where Notre Dame was in the Championship game this year)
|1 year 26 weeks ago||Thx DB||
Obviously the 2015 home opener @ Utah deserves the credit for this.
|1 year 27 weeks ago||On that note||
Michigan Top 22 "Avg-Avg" = 3.86
OSU Top 22 "Avg-Avg" = 3.83
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Chris Spielman||
Always seemed like a decent guy. Awesome career. Wound up with the Lions. In one of the Michigan v OSU documentaries he says he told his Dad he wanted to go to Michigan (grew up in Ohio) and his Dad said something like "if you go there, don't come back" so he went to OSU.
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Second That||
But it is the offseason, so what else should we talk about? Hockey's Back? Derrick Green again? Harbowl?
|1 year 29 weeks ago||Location||
I don't know if this is possible, but I recommend putting a hyperlink to the Sticky thread on these pages at the top and/or next to the submit button/text box:
And perhaps what pops up when you go to compose a comment in a thread.
I've found this via "Useful Stuff" but I think its a bit confusing and needs to be dumbed down/put in a better context:
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Can I Get A Source For That?|
|1 year 30 weeks ago||The Junior in High School is||
The Junior in High School is always more exciting than the Freshman on our roster that just spent the season redshirting (no matter how highly they were rated).
|1 year 30 weeks ago||Request||
Awesome work Seth. One request:
Could you take a look at the number of Solid Starters you would project based on the roster for 2011 & 2012 (fill in these blanks):
I'd really like to know (1) what the expected change was from 2011 to 2012 (since everyone says it was so terrible), and (2) what the expected change is from 2012 to 2013.
Also one comment: Our 2013 projection if Lewan doesn't come back is 1.87. /shudder. Wooo!
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Early Signing Period||
Best argument for an early signing period is this situation, and kids enrolling early more and more. A school should be committed to a kid at least some period before he enrolls. This doesn't work if signing day isn't until February.
|1 year 31 weeks ago||I think he was starting to do||
I think he was starting to do some interviews & then Tremendous popped up. Brian & Ace (IMO wisely) probably figured the same set of kids didn't need ANOTHER guy harassing them about their recruitment (esp. when all the Tremendous info was freely available).
|1 year 31 weeks ago||On top of the 2012 & 13 DL||
On top of the 2012 & 13 DL classes, landing Hand, McDowell, and Mone would pretty much be the most awesome thing ever. I can only think about our opponents thinking, "uh, not fair".
|1 year 31 weeks ago||Kovacs||
Please stay healthy Tom Gordon. I don't want two new safeties on the field at once.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Speed RBs:||
Name, Height, Weight
Denard Robinson, 6'0", 197
Jahvid Best, 5'10", 199
Reggie Bush, 6'0", 203
CJ Spiller, 5'11", 200
Chris Johnson, 5'11", 191
Lesean McCoy, 5'11", 208
Jamaal Charles, 5'11, 199
Everybody else listed seems to be in the 215-230 range, and consistently under 6'0", with a few monsterback exceptions:
I did read that one scout's opinion, but think a defensive position is silly. Depends on what you think is easier to learn/fits his skill set better: route running & catching, or pass blocking. I think he'll find success as "the Vincent Smith of the NFL".
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Cass Tech||
Coach Wilcher and Company are right down the street aren't they? Hey, can't be any shadier than paying to send a bunch of Catholic high schoolers to play a game in Ireland...
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Others||
With Sims, Bell, and Gholston gone, what impact does that have on Bullough & Dennard? MSU is really lucky that they seem to have held on to Narduzzi, because if he left too it could be completely back breaking to this team.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Dave Brandon will stop with||
Dave Brandon will stop with the alternate jerseys once you buy a regular jersey every time they don't change.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||9-3||
Knock-on-wood, should be good: CMU, Akron, UCONN, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa
Win 3 of 6 against: ND, PSU, MSU, NEB, NW, OSU
|1 year 32 weeks ago||That is Chris Fox who is not||
That is Chris Fox who is not playing due to a torn ACL in his last game.
|1 year 32 weeks ago||Not Worthless||
I think there are still cross promotional synergies to dealing with ESPN if you can cut a fair deal with them.
You saw what they can do when they lowballed the NHL offer and it went to Versus/NBC. Virtually no hockey highlights/coverage on sportscenter or otherwise, other than Barry Melrose (probably because he's got a big ESPN contract or something).
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Big 12||
Just "big 12" country, but OK and NE have zero rivals 100 kids the last 4 years
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Empire Building||
The goal may not be "make money", and the university may be "non-profit", but across higher education in the US there is a trend (which everyone can decide for themselves if it is or is not disturbing) of an arms race/empire building for overall prestige.
I think this drives a lot of the
1. make more football money
2. find a way to spend football money, ex. - large amounts of funding going to non revenue sports
3. ... 4. Profit!
Dave Brandon may have influence, but he does not control Jim Delany or the decision to do things like add Rutgers and Maryland to the Big 10.
Really I wonder if undergraduate education has its priorities in the right place when tuition keeps going up at the rate it does and so many grads aren't satisfied with their career prep.
I was a Ross grad w/ an econ minor, but this "Dirty Secret of Economics" article hit pretty close to home and made me think of a bunch of my friends who didn't have a passion for something, just wanted to be able to get a job after college.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||These do a much better job of||
These do a much better job of representing current rosters, but they're not broken out by position group:
|1 year 34 weeks ago||I originally pulled this data||
I originally pulled this data to examine skill position recruiting and recent history and then I expanded it. Looks like I didn't expand it far enough to compare to current rosters, especially for OL. It was more about who has been pulling in top recruits most recently.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||Well...||
My bad, underlying data doesn't match what I did with it for current OL quality.
You'd need to include older classes '08 and '09, and weight upperclassmen heavier like the Mathlete does. I only pulled the most recent 4, because I was really only concerned with Hoke/recent history (I know '10 was Rodriguez and '11 was split) + wanted a reasonable amount of years.
Also since OL starts 5 guys, having a lot of 4* depth is probably more important than a couple top rated prospects. Landing 1 of the top 12 WR or 1 of the top 11 RB "should" have a greater impact than 1 of the top 13 OL.
|1 year 34 weeks ago||US Population (2011 Estimates||
US Population (2011 Estimates from Wikipedia) vs % of Rivals Top 100 by region
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Why care about competitive balance?||
Who I want to see us play:
Michigan, OSU, PSU, MSU, NEB, Wisco, +1 (Doesn't matter, let's say Iowa)
Other Division aka Everybody Else:
Minnesota, NW, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers
As long as OSU isn't in a cakewalk division that also doesn't include us, I couldn't care less if the other side has an easier "road to the rose bowl". If they beat the winner of the "tougher" division in the Big10 Championship game, so be it.
|1 year 35 weeks ago||Socialism?||
What's socialist about collusive organizations extracting monopoly rents?
|1 year 36 weeks ago||Because if there's one thing||
Because if there's one thing the city of Detroit has been saying lately it's "hmmmm, how on earth do we spend all these extra tax dollars that keep piling up in our treasury?"
|1 year 36 weeks ago||Preach!||
Petrino was making $3.7 (million per year), Les Miles was making $3.9 but got a raise to stay at LSU. Bielema was making $1.8 and got a raise to $2.6 at the end of the 2011 season. (Hoke makes $3.0, Urban Meyer $4.3 FWIW.)
|1 year 36 weeks ago||Silver Lining?||
That actually makes for a pretty simple East & West:
Added benefit: still conflicts with our fight song (Champions of the West).
Ohio State's track record over the last 10 years is not "symmetrical" with anyone in the conference, but Nebraska & Wisconsin is (IMO) the best "offset" to Michigan & OSU. (One could argue Penn State, I guess).
Iowa & NW, PSU & MSU: You can't definitively say this slants one way or the other consistently. PSU & MSU may not like being in the same division as OSU & Michigan, but tough luck.
Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois & Rutgers, Maryland, and 2 "Others' (GT, UVA, UNC, etc.)
I don't think anyone would cry tears for having one of these groups over the other.
Final Note: Looking at the SEC, the competitive balance can dramatically shift in a hurry depending on how high Florida/Georgia are vs Alabama/LSU, with Auburn, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Texas A&M making cameo appearances to argue "depth".
|1 year 37 weeks ago||Excluding class size:||
I don't have a problem with the way Ace presents it, here's an alternate ignoring current class size to get a sense of where Rutgers/Maryland stack up:
|1 year 39 weeks ago||Admission: I'm that guy||
$200/season is a very low price to pay to have the option to go to every home game, even if you don't use it. Plus for the many (not all) students who aren't paying their own way, this is a rounding error to put on their parents tab next to tuition/rent and living expenses.
Hell we know that ND/MSU/OSU games can cost that much per game. Why wouldn't you buy them?
I recently graduated and live in Chicago and I had my little sister who is still a student find a pair of kids who weren't going to buy them get them for me. So I bought the whole season and will only make it to 3 games this year. I don't bother with the hassle of reselling the others, because even without doing that it is still cheaper than stubhub-ing the big games that I want to go to.
Even when a student knows they only want to go to a big game or two, no one wants to be the person at the pregame: "hey everybody let's go" Reply: "I can't I didn't buy tickets this year".
(1) Make the face value equivalent to other sections (ex. annual seat donation charges/whatever)
(2) Eliminate validation charges
(3) Offer more single game tickets and set the face values TO THE MARKET (hint: not $65 UMASS & $75 MSU).
(4) I like the idea of losing priviledge to buy if you didn't attend 6 or 7 out of 8 the previous season
(5) General admission would help
|1 year 40 weeks ago||DTs 2013?||
"...at this point I don't think you're going to see the Pip/Washington combo in 2013."
So you expect Washington/Black, with some Pipkins and Ash in the rotation? Or do you expect others in the class of 2012 (Godin/Henry/Wormley) to beat out Pipkins for time at 3-tech? (I assume Kenny Wilkins is not a factor at this point, until proven otherwise.)
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Coach Funk||
What are our thoughts on Coach Funk at this point in the season? With our recruiting hauls & last season we've been pretty bullish in the past. Anyone rethinking that, or is he blameless here?
Good time to go back and look at this I suppose:
|1 year 41 weeks ago||ISO #1||
Is most like diagram #3 here:
Only the D-Line is shifted "under", so the blocking would have to adjust. I don't think our line has enough experience running ISO against different defensive looks to know how to block it.
Also, I don't think Nebraska is respecting contain on the strong side. Toss/stretch right looks like a pretty safe bet for at least 5 yards if not more.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Option||
I don't think we actually have that "option" in our offense. It looks like it was an attempt to get a gift from the Nebraska defense by running the exact same look that sprang Venric Mark for 80 yds last week. (Only Michigan lined up with twins play side instead of back side).
Unfortunately, Nebraska probably took a look at that on tape and got it fixed on there end. They would be stupid not to. Bo Pelini is competent. Aw shucks.
|1 year 41 weeks ago||Ryan||
Does anyone know why Jake Ryan wasn't on the field for the last drive?
|1 year 42 weeks ago||If by just fine you mean||
If by just fine you mean having the same problem that we're complaining about now.
The interior OL may not get worse, but it will still probably be a weak point and is unlikely to be a whole lot better until 2014 when these young guys develop.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||The joke... you missed||
The joke... you missed it.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Some impressive speed by||
Some impressive speed by Micah Hyde tracking down Venric Mark on that breakaway run.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Special Teams Key||
Special Teams Key Matchup: Brady Hoke vs Heiko Spread Punt Formation Presser Questions
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Mostly the same...||
We're a pretty different team at this point. The only guys that are the same are Kovacs, Demens, Roh, and Floyd (who started until he got hurt before the 2010 Illinois game). And they were all much younger (obviously). Avery has been passed (for his every down spot) by Countess AND Taylor, two sophomores who weren't on the roster at that point. C. Gordon has been passed by Ryan who was redshirting. T. Gordon was a RS Freshman who was only seeing limited time. Black was still a depth player.
Granted there's talent here that we no longer have (Martin, RVB), but I'm just saying the personel is different now. No Ryan, Morgan, Clark, Beyer, Taylor, Pipkins; Campbell was lost in the wilderness (due to both youth and coaching), Q. Wash as a RS FR was just switching from OL to DL.
Just saying its different now, but trust me, I'm not defending an RPS (+7,-21). Glad I can laugh about it now, wow times have changed.
Substitution notes, Illinois 2010 (67-65 game): The secondary was Vinopal, Rogers, Avery, and Kovacs the whole way. Fitz and Ezeh seemed to get equal time at the OLB/DE spot, with Cam Gordon getting maybe 80% of the time at spur. Thomas got some snaps. Demens and Mouton went the whole way at MLB. On the line Martin, RVB, and Roh started; Patterson, Black, and Banks spotted them periodically.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||I hadn't refreshed the||
I hadn't refreshed the comments after I read the original post. None of the replies to your first comment were showing up yet. I was about to go in and edit it, but you replied first. Sorry to be redundant.
|1 year 42 weeks ago||Apples & Oranges||
Your offense is going to "leave points on the field" due to should've been executed errors 9 out of 10 weeks. You can use that "should've been" 22-30 points, but you have to compare it to "should've been" point totals in other games too. Also there were definitely a few Maxwell deep balls that "should've been" points if they were just on target.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||On the second to last drive||
On the second to last drive we were on the MSU 25 yd line, Denard gets TFL'ed, a false start, and a holding penalty take us out of field goal range. I was going nuts. ND was also like that where we gave up points because the offense went backwards. Hopefully we can get more disciplined on that in the future so that it doesn't cost us another one.
|1 year 43 weeks ago||45 - 0 353 Rushing Yards||
45 - 0
353 Rushing Yards
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Brady Hoke Rainbow||
Not ROYGBIV, -OY-BIV.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Am I the only one who's||
Am I the only one who's mildly annoyed that we're playing a night game on Halloweekend? Oh well, I guess you can file this with all the other comments from people whining about noon vs 3:30 games (which is a fight that I don't have a dog in).
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Disagree||
I just read that Freep article. Coach obviously wants to send as many kids to college on scholarship as possible. Cass Tech has a lot of prospects, including some Michigan won't have room for (esp. if Hoke continues pulling in classes ranked in the top 5). Building a relationship with every school is on his agenda. What's he supposed to say, that he's diappointed D. Finley isn't going to Michigan when he didn't get a scholarship offer? That kids like Deon Drake, Kenton Gibbs, etc. should walk on at Michigan and take out student loans (if they can get accepted academically)?
Also read carefully because that second quote in the article is from Finley not Coach Wilcher:
"It's not like that," Finley said. "It's never been like that. Most of our best guys do end up at U-M, but I believe this can change things. I feel like me going to MSU might open up some doors. More guys might look at MSU, and MSU might recruit more of our guys."
Obviously kids within a year of each other might have interest in playing in college together, but generally I think these "pipelines" are more recruiting spin than anything else. I mean, Farmington Hills Harrison was supposed to be an MSU pipeline, but that didn't stop Funchess and Ojemudia from coming to Michigan (thank goodness).
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Geez||
All I know is I'm sick of people saying Bellomy "can't play quarterback at Michigan" for whatever reason, and that we HAVE to move Gardner back to QB next year or we're DOOMED. (I don't mean necessarily in this thread, but I hear this sentiment from a lot of fans in person during the game.)
Give the kid a chance. He wasn't Aaron Rodgers out there, but I thought he played pretty well especially for a redshirt freshman.
I think the competition between him and Devin over the offseason will be fierce and too close to call. Either will need to improve his play in order to win the job and for Michigan to be sucessful.
"I had assumed that as a Purdue commit, Bellomy didn't have many other options prior to his senior year (he committed in June), but that's not the case. According to Scout, Boise State, Colorado, Michigan State, Minnesota, and South Florida had all offered scholarships, along with a host of MAC/CUSA-level offers.
That's no murderer's row, but Boise State and Michigan State have recent history of QB success, and have done so by developing under-the-radar recruits."
|1 year 44 weeks ago||Good thread idea...||
But I'm confused. You list heights and weights, and then assert none of these guys have "speed" or "freak athletic ability". That sounds pretty subjective unless you're trying to say that big = slow, which is not necessarily the case. You could pull the "fake" 40 times if you want, but we all know those are suspect data..
Being both big AND fast is what makes you elite. Generally speaking, our recruiting ranks are saying that's what these kids are.
For instance, here's Bama's depth chart:
Only 2 DBs in all of the 2-deep are less than 6'0", and they're both listed at 5'11".
The "smallest" linebacker is CJ Mosley @ 6'2", 232. (Of course upperclassmen should generally be heavier as they add good weight in college).
|1 year 44 weeks ago||LOL||
Well at least one person agrees with you.
|1 year 44 weeks ago||2013 Replacing Roh||
Anyone think with Roh graduating and Clark/Beyer/Ojemudia all looking like they deserve to see the field that one of those guys bulks up and makes the same type of position switch Roh did? (Probably not Ojemudia). Or do we think Heitzman/Strobel/Wormley will emerge next season? I was bullish on Wormley, but I'm afriad the injury could delay him another year.
EDIT: Also throughly pleased with Tom Gordon's development.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Polls||
You can justify either Notre Dame at #6 or Michigan Unranked, but after watching that game, it's awfully tough to justify both of those spots at the same time.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Darboh||
Since we've burned his redshirt, I'd like to see Darboh get into the rotation at WR a little more. Regardless of your opinion (+ or -) on Roundtree, we lose him next year; if Gardner wins the QB job over Bellomy, we're looking at a big ? on the outside.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||No Relation?||
No relation to Marcus Lattimore, correct? Considering he's from Ohio not South Carolina?
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Impossible||
Impossible to stop, yeah in a way. They will get theirs. The offense will definitely be in the top 15 at the end of the year. But they only beat Maryland 31-21 last week. They're not going to score 70 every week.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||I'm wrong||
You're right, Booker is at #110. 47 is his jersey number. Fail.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||#21 is the Desmond Howard||
#21 is the Desmond Howard legends jersey.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||LBs||
Dante Booker, St. Vincent-St. Mary's in Akron, OH = #47, #2 OLB (offered)
Nyles Morgan, teammate of Laquon Treadwell at Crete-Monee HS in IL, = #50, #4 MLB. (No offer yet)
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Thanks||
Thanks to both of you. Sounds reasonable. Went down the rabbit hole on this and found this from a wikipedia source:
"The most significant effects of concussion are loss of awareness and traumatic amnesia [31, 32]. Opinions are not uniform. For example, a questionnaire was recently sent to physicians at 105 emergency surgery, neurological and neurosurgery departments in Austria. Retrograde amnesia was given as the main criterion for concussion by 88, loss of consciousness by 86 and post-traumatic amnesia (PTA) by 81% .
Definitions are generally qualified by the statement that the loss of consciousness can occur in the absence of any gross or microscopic cerebral damage ."
Anywho, I generally agree LOC probably means concussion and he probably shouldn't have been back in there after 1 play off. Reluctant to call out individuals without knowing the behind the scenes story though. Also, I don't have a problem with what Dantonio said in the PR; seemed reasonable and generally in line with coachspeak on all injuries.
|1 year 45 weeks ago||Serious Question||
I am not trying to troll anyone here, I honestly want opinions. I read the whole thread and I appreciate the takes here of many, including Section1, bronxblue, and also hart20. However there are some comments that are pretty high and mighty.
For those of you who are so adamant on the "if unconscious, then concussion" thing:
(1) could you please direct me (link) to a credible source stating that they're unequivocally linked? (I know there was a bunch of so-and-so-I-know-who-is-a-doctor earlier in this thread, but bear with me).
(2) what are your feelings about boxing and MMA wherein the entire point of the competition is to try and knock your opponent unconcious or cause other material bodily damage. Is that okay because they know what they signed up for? Or just because after they get "knocked out/concussed" they don't "go back in" because the fight is over (dubious, I think repeated trauma is pretty common). Should these sports be banned?
(3) There are various (incongrous) assertions in this thread (ex. - (a) blame the sideline doctors, (b) blame Dantonio, no one listens to the sideline doctors, etc...). I was under the impression that baseline testing was standard procedure and if you pass you can play. It's not just some MSU policy. If people aren't satisfied with that process, blame the process and advocate that stricter standards need to be implemented at the Big 10 or NCAA level. "Saying this is the process, but MSU should have done more,what scumbags!" seems like people are just finding an excuse to throw some vitriol at a rival.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Tempo||
Still hard to believe there were only 7 drives in the 2nd half, 3 of them ours, and 2 of Notre Dame's were 3 & out/4 & out.
|1 year 46 weeks ago||Agreed||
Not a great win, but then again I might take Vandy over Cal heads up. It seemed okay looking at how tough they played South Carolina (losing 13-17), but Georgia really took the shine off of it (rolling them 48-3).
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Mean Reversion||
Well at least now we know if our turnover +/- is going to mean revert or not.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Hagerup||
Didn't Hoke make a presser comment that Hagerup was outkicking his coverage too much? Drive punting for distance as opposed to hang time, that is. I used to say what's wrong with the NFL style until I learned that the rules are different. Now I lean spread punt, but I think the punter is important too.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Shrug||
I really just take issue with "have their pick of any job". That's a whiny exaggeration. Varies widely by employer/industry. Agree that decision criteria can be subjective/irrational or based heavily on experiences outside the classroom.
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Mgolicious||
Unrelated, but LOL at Mgolicious. No politics?
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Imagine||
I know it never really was an option given the state of our program at the time, but I can only imagine how I'd be feeling if Denard had been able to redshirt back in '09 and was currently a RS Junior. Of course, domino effect and then Gardner may not even be here, but hey I can dream can't I?
|1 year 47 weeks ago||Um||
"I would also be irritated that these athletes essentially have their pick of any job they want upon graduation due to their status while I stress out over interviews and applications and resumes."
As a recent grad, I for one do not agree with this at all. Many employers couldn't care less what you used to do on Saturdays. Really depends on the job I suppose.
Also when I was a student "at a D-1 school", what irritated me A LOT more than any of those was when Michigan lost a football game.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Refs||
Another advantage of running the option (at levels above high school) is:
Just like the defense is not used to seeing it, the refs are not used to seeing it. A bunch of these funky illegal motion & OL downfield things are unique and thus probably not something refs are normally accustomed looking for/calling.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Third That||
Arena is great if you're looking to really watch games. Also their wings are phenominal. Newer bar: The Packard Pub has a good TVs setup, but I've only been there once so I can't speak to food or postgame environment.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||Why?||
"The covered-up guy goes on a magical journey to nowhere, but he's at least occupied JT Floyd."
On the second play:
Why does Floyd follow him if we know he is ineligible? Can he still receive a backwards pass/lateral? If so then I'm thinking he has to honor the "music city miracle" fake.
We definitely get RPS'ed and out executed all day. Think of it this way: 11 vs 11 (because the QB is a threat to run), and you draw it up so you can get a block or coverage responsibilities on everyone except the backside linebacker (look at Tom Gordon in PP2). If it's run either some of your 10 blocked guys have to not get blocked, or TG has to come all the way across the field to make a tackle. Option Pass is a "constraint play" to help your WR/RBs make their downfield one on one blocks all day. Ugh.
|1 year 48 weeks ago||THE BRAND||
The brand, the brand, the brand. None of this "the...state" crap. We are "Pure Michigan".
|1 year 48 weeks ago||I be like dang||
I be like dang
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Six freshmen (RS) at once?||
Uh lemme guess, can somebody confirm?:
Bolden, Ross, Pipkins, Ojemudia, Wilson, Heitzman(RS)
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Wisconsin||
Wisconsin's chant is "Fuck you, eat shit". I don't think "you suck" is classless at all.
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Agree||
I don't think it's the D-line's fault, our whole defense (including the secondary) looks soft against the run. Use this hypothetical: what would Alabama's defense look like against Air Force's option run attack?
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Top Pick||
Disclaimer: I'm (also) probably wrong about this.
Lewan did not look much like a top 15 pick out there. He's still a really good tackle and a major key to future offensive success, but IMO the hype train may have gotten a little ahead of itself on that. Yes I know that Mel Kiper said so, but still part of me thinks people see #77 in a Michigan helmet and think OMG Jake Long 2.0!!!
|1 year 49 weeks ago||Dear Laquon Treadwell||
Please take notice that we have an offensive coordinator that absolutely loves to throw the deep ball.
|1 year 50 weeks ago||How about TE Mike||
How about TE Mike Kwiatkowski?
|1 year 50 weeks ago||Sprocle Quiz||
NCAA QBs (Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12, SEC & ND)
I built this so it's not really fair, but even after punching in all the answers to set it up when I came back to it 20 minutes later I was 12/12 on the B1G and got 23/49 overall.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||As a 2010 grad||
I remember a few people who stopped going to games in 2007 after THE HORROR, but a TON of people stopped going to games in 2008. Honestly I think three years of losing changed the pregame culture on campus for undergrads. And I think that's sad. I don't think it turns around overnight, but hopefully its better this fall.
I'll bet the big house will be packed for the opener this year against Alabama... wait... nevermind.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Co-Sign||
Recent grad here also.
Now that people aren't students it's really easy to say, "Yeah let's make the students' tickets General Admission!"
Actually I think that would have the opposite effect, more students would say "crap I'm already late, why would I go sit in the last row when I can keep drinking here and watch the game on my 60" big screen with 18 million camera angles and instant replay (via DVR) whenever I want it? I'm just not going."
G&A tickets might get the first 50% in the door earlier, but it would probably leave the top sections empty the WHOLE GAME.
|1 year 51 weeks ago||Agreed. http://mgoblog.com/co||
General Excitement Level: AAAAIIEEEE! Man... this offense is McGuffie'sjam, man, and the Church Of Barwis will excommunicate anyone who doubts his his's ability to get up to 200-some pounds without compromising his lightning quicks. Steve Slaton says what.
|2 years 3 days ago||MgoMeme?||
Can we formally accept:
as a new mgomeme? I laugh everytime I read that on here. Not to say it isn't true, but it just gets me every time somebody pulls that statement out again. Sorry hart20, I don't mean to be a jerk. Just had to ask.
|2 years 4 days ago||Okay I'll Bite||
I thought this was a super post, but if you want suggestions on things you could do differently (just spit balling here).
Total Season Count of Plays (ex. 16 plays of "other" to focus the discussion)
% By Formation (Reads: Given the opponent is in a 4 receiver set, we play nickel 72% of the time. Interesting: note there really is not a significant difference between 3 and 4 receiver sets.)
For Game by Game analysis I would do an XY Scatter of (X = % of Plays Opponent was in a 3 or 4 receiver set, Y = % of those plays Michigan was in Nickel) in order to see if we played anybody significantly differently than our 70% average, or if its completely explained by how many 3 and 4 receiver set plays the opponent ran.
|2 years 6 days ago||40 yds||
At the 40ydish mark roughly seven of the finalists in the 100m dash are stride for stride (including Usain Bolt): http://www.sbnation.com/london-olympics-2012/2012/8/5/3221941/usain-bolt-100m-video-2012-olympics
This makes me think it seems plausible that there could be a few dozen track guys out there (possibly including guys like Denard & Chris Johnson) that could more or less keep pace for 40 yds. It also makes me think that there probably isn't anyone out there on earth who is significantly (more than half a step) going to beat these guys over 40yds. But as you can see, the 100 is all about the last 60m.
Also, Odoms beat Denard, so there's that too: http://mgoblog.com/content/nebraska-postgame-presser-transcript-players
|2 years 1 week ago||RR to Bama...||
Where does Saban go then, WVU? Miami (YTM)? Another year with the Phins? Wow dominoes...
(These links help a lot)
|2 years 7 weeks ago||Obligatory||
"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."
- Steve Spurrier
|2 years 9 weeks ago||Second That||
I second the idea to replace "Muesday". I have no idea why, but it just doesn't appeal to me either (sorry nothing personal).
How about "Point of Information:" / "Point of Order:"? (As in parlimentary procedure w/ a Hoke reference).
Content of the posts is great though. Keep up the good work Seth.
|2 years 10 weeks ago||I think it's just something||
I think it's just something receivers have to get used to. If your QB gets hurt and you switch from a lefty to a righty mid season or mid game, then it could possibly be a minor issue.
'For a receiver, catching a left-hander’s passes can be tricky. “I’ve had receivers complain that catching a ball from a lefty is different because the spin is different,” Lorenzen said. “If you throw a deep ball, it falls differently.” '
|2 years 10 weeks ago||Why lefties in baseball||
In a same hand dominant match up (ex. - righty batter vs righty pitcher), a curveball/slider will break away from the batter. This makes it more difficult to hit because (1) it is naturally easier to be a "pull hitter" (ex - righty hitting to left field) (2) breaking balls move slower, and if the pitch is outside you also have to wait longer anyway to "let it get back" in your swing in order to hit well to the opposite field.
For a different hand dominant match up (ex. righty batter vs lefty pitcher), the curve/slider will break into the hitter, so even if you are fooled and a little bit out in front of the ball (because it's moving slower) you actually want to be a little bit out in front of the ball (because it is further inside than you thought). It follows that this makes it easier for the hitter then in different handedness matchups.
(Of course the pitcher can try to get a called strike that a guy doesn't swing at on a "backdoor" curveball [starts outside and breaks over the plate] but generally this is tougher for the pitcher than getting the batter to "chase" a curve ball that starts over the plate and breaks outside.)
It then follows that you need lefty pitchers to get lefty hitters out (obviously more important in the bullpen, because a starter is going to pitch through the whole lineup).
/we now return to our regularly scheduled Michigan Football broadcast.
|2 years 13 weeks ago||Old big 12 north?||
No disrespect, but if you look at the division Nebraska used to play in, I don't know why anyone would think the big ten is easier.
Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State
|2 years 13 weeks ago||More Conference Games?||
I would be okay going to 16 team conferences if it meant overhauling the schedule & playing 10 or 11 conference games (and all 7 other teams in your division).
|2 years 13 weeks ago||David Harris||
Injuries yes, but everybody thought "we had everybody back" because of Henne, Hart and Long.
A lot of people overlooked the fact that we lost: David Harris, Alan Branch, LaMarr Woodley, Leon Hall, Prescott Burgess on Defense and Breaston and Bihl on Offense. There's seven key starters lost even before injuries.
|2 years 13 weeks ago||Isaac Upshot||
What are the odds the coaches are now "done" at RB (Levenberrry/LB style)?
Odds this means we have room for taking 2 more WRs?
Treadwell, Stringfellow, Allen on the board with interest and more offers still going out now. Thoughts?
|2 years 14 weeks ago||Offers?||
I assume "stolen" means any guy they had an offer out to, which... well, good luck with that. Nobody's anywhere close to batting 100% when top kids have like 10 to 20 offers.
|2 years 14 weeks ago||Strenuous Objections?||
|2 years 14 weeks ago||Receiver Names||
Keeping the name roll going:
Cson'te, Jaron, Amara, and Jehu
|2 years 14 weeks ago||I'd be interested to know how||
I'd be interested to know how many non-student season ticket holders personally attend all 8 home games. Anecdotally from personal experience I think they are sold/given/shared a lot. Probably easier to get there on time if you're not going to your 3rd or 4th cupcake of the year and know that somebody better is next weekend.
I think it's actually much harder to scalp student tickets because (1) for meh games the $40 validation cost to sell it to a non-student may be above market value for the ticket (2) "you can't put them on stubhub" (not sure how true that is, never tried).
This is obviously by design because if you're a student, Brandon doesn't want you using your option for cheap student seats just to net a scalping profit for the whole year, so barriers are put up to make them harder to scalp. He'd rather sell an additional ticket to a grad for much more.
Another part of the dynamic is the bundling of a whole season and leaving prices WAY closer together than market value. I personally saw UTL tickets going for $350-400, and back in undergrad EMU/Toledo/Delaware State tickets that you couldn't get $20 for.
The real solution (IMO) is just make all the games good ones and people will show up. The big 5 conferences should cut the fat and play zero cupcake games. This necessitates an overhaul of the post-season so that non-conference losses don't hurt your chances or requires a system that coordinates your entire conference's non-conference schedule eliminating individual scheduling freedom. But in the end this would raise the week-in/week-out quality of regular season play. (Cue that devalues regular season/every game counts objection here.) But I would rather play a meaningless game against Alabama than a game that wrecks our chances if we lose against (insert MAC school).
|2 years 14 weeks ago||Attendance Points||
Be careful with this idea. It's kind of self reinforcing. I don't care how big of a fan you are, if you have tickets in the 95th row sometimes you'd just rather watch a crappy weather EMU game on TV. I personally don't think you should punish someone for that. But if you're in row 5, you're probably more likely to show up on time for it anyway.
(Yes I know - at least I think - that's not the type of late/no show most of you are angry about, but if they each counted against me the same in a points system, that's not the fairest way to go about it IMO.)
Also you'd be incentivizing the kids who really are too drunk to be there to show up anyway. I would not be surprised to see a bunch of people show up and leave at half time, or send a batch of tickets with one person to get them all scanned.
Also what about scalping tickets? If I pay to get my ticket validated and sell it for a huge markup to a crazy OSU fan who is there an hour before kickoff, is that good/behavior to be rewarded?
At least the part about tracking the data for a few years before implementing a system is very logical, so plus one for that.
- undergrad class of 2010
|2 years 15 weeks ago||Different reference||
Bob Knight is not here to get his a-- beat on Monday.
|2 years 17 weeks ago||Conley||
Putting it in perspective:
Corner Position Rankings:
4. C. Burrows
5. K. Fuller
6. G. Conley
11. J. Lewis
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Every Loss Counts||
While big non-conference games may matter more to voters, the computers penalized the Big 10 last year mostly because of losses like:
Indiana vs Ball State, Indiana vs Virginia, Indiana @ North Texas, Purdue @ Rice, Minnesota vs New Mexico State, Minnesota vs North Dakota State, and Northwestern @ Army
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Tommy Rees: Lacks||
Tommy Rees: Lacks accuracy
Andrew Hendrix: Accuracy issues
Everett Golson: Biggest accuracy issues
Gunner Kiel; Freshman; Lacks understanding of the offense
Denard Robinson: Accuracy issues, especially when throwing off of back foot
Every-college-QB-not-a-lock-to-be-a-1st-round-NFL-draft-pick: Accuracy issues.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Wait, are we assuming Tressel||
Wait, are we assuming Tressel @ OSU or Tressel in some hypothetical future job?
If my kid wanted to go to OSU I'd probably have to go all Chris Spielman's Dad on him:
"You can go play football at whatever school you want. But if you go to OSU then don't come home. Ever."
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Linebackers Question||
Is there anyone who can give me some specific-type warnings to help manage down my expectations on these young linebackers (Ryan/Morgan/Bolden, etc.)? I remember feeling the same way I do now about Kenny Demens a couple seasons back (how he was going to be all-world) and now feeling like his ceiling may be a bit lower than we were hoping. I know we've got great coaches, but I feel like my optimism may be getting a touch carried away with all the hype.
|2 years 18 weeks ago||Call me an optimist, but I||
Call me an optimist, but I think Roh and Black each moving inside a slot definitely reduces the "rebuilding" aspect of this year's D line. Both have seen a lot of playing time in their careers. Also everyone seems to be pretty bullish on our edge players (Clark, Beyer, Ryan, C. Gordon). The only riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma is Will Campbell (and depth inside). Maybe against a real manball inside running team they would be undersized, but Michigan's offense is not really that.
Also, most of the plays with the 2s feature some walk ons on the o-line so I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them getting beat. But we already know depth there is bad, especially without incoming freshmen.
|2 years 19 weeks ago||If there are 5 choices and||
If there are 5 choices and you randomly guess, doesn't probability say you should expect to get 10 questions correct?
Am I missing something here?
|2 years 20 weeks ago||Oh noes||
"but you can't really redshirt a 5-star DT when you just graduated most of your defensive line, right?"
No way man, we should totally redshirt Pipkins.
|2 years 23 weeks ago||Shallman/Houma||
What are everybody's thoughts on Houma (and Shallman) playing snaps at both FB and TE? Since everyone is in love with the Patriots TEs/offense, I'll point out this is analogous to Aaron Hernandez getting snaps at running back (which happened).
I think there's a fair amount of depth there without a third in this class. That doesn't mean the coaches wouldn't take one, but I don't think they'd reach for one if they miss their top few remaining targets (with so few spots left and so much high profile interest).
/My two cents
|2 years 23 weeks ago||LT vs RT||
I believe I've heard LTs don't always switch to RT for a lefty QB because it's about the match up with the top DE who is more accustomed to playing on a right handed QBs blind side. (Granted the DE can move around more easily if the coach wants to, but then he's technically "playing out of position" too [unless it's an SDE/WDE defense]).
Further I think I heard one other Left-vs-Right factor is that Logan is left handed, which means at LT his dominant hand would be to the outside, which is probably a bonus (debatable whether that is significant, plenty of right handed LTs).
|2 years 23 weeks ago||Mattison||
Kind of like how Greg Mattison is the reason why Ray Lewis and the Ravens' Defense is so good?
|2 years 24 weeks ago||Yeah I'm not sold. They||
Yeah I'm not sold. They suggest to tell these kids:
(1) You won't play as much college ball outside the Big 10, so you won't get at bats against top college competition
(2) We're moving your season to the summer, so now your college and summer seasons overlap so you have to choose one and can't do both like everybody else
If you weren't getting inferior talent before (you were), doing this will make sure that you do get inferior talent in the future.
The fall ball idea might not be as bad, but I don't know much about the details of college baseball.
|2 years 24 weeks ago||From the Walter Football Link||
Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State - V
|2 years 25 weeks ago||Land of Giants||
Is it just me or are our 2012/2013 classes exceptionally tall:
Shane Morris – 6’3”
Wyatt Shallman – 6’3”
Jaron Dukes – 6’5”
Amara Darboh – 6’2”
Jehu Chesson – 6’3”
AJ Williams – 6’6”
Devin Funchess – 6’5”
Jake Butt – 6’6”
Khalid Hill – 6’2”
8 Offensive linemen, from which we are worried none may be short enough (and stay short enough/not grow) to play center (6’4”).
Ty Issac – 6’3”
Laquon Treadwell – 6’3”
Good luck little DBs.
|2 years 26 weeks ago||Not to threadjack but...||
Can someone please explain what traits "project to center", and why of our 8 lineman (2012/13) only 1 or 2 of them maybe fit that description?
I understand the basics of why tackles are different, but I always thought a center was just a Guard who snaps.
Feel free to start up discussion in a different thread, I don't have enough points to make one.
|2 years 28 weeks ago||22 Spots||
22 Positions on the field O & D (excl. P/K).
Less 1 LB, less 1 Safety. Plus 2 offensive skilled players (RB/WR/TE).
That gets you Brian's projected needs.
Fairly balanced. In theory you'd be a few lower since 22*4 = 88 and that doesn't leave any room for 5th years or P/K. But overall not bad.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Other song||
Did anybody else hear this at the Sugar Bowl? (Picked it up from some undergrads.)
Sorry I don't have audio, but it was to the tune of "the ants go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah."
He doesn't have to tie his shoes,
He gets the ball we never lose,
He takes the snap and runs for six,
Who the F*** is Michael Vick?
Denard, Denard, Denard, Denard,
|2 years 30 weeks ago||PS - Dave Brandon||
Expect that guy to use the same tired "party line" talking points in public while being much more thoughtful in private. There will come a day when his public opinion seemingly flip-flops in an instant, because he was waiting for the opportune moment to reveal how he really felt (or the opportune moment to start telling you the opposite lie).
The dude is like Mitt Romney's ugly cousin. Think about it.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||From the RVB article:||
"Everyone else, besides the people close to you, will say, 'Oh, you hurt your foot. You probably shouldn’t even give it a try. Maybe it’s a sign,'" Van Bergen said Friday shortly after a six-hour workout at Barwis Methods. "Whereas our attitude, and Mike’s attitude, is, 'We’ll get over this foot thing, bench the house and, when you get a chance to run, we’ll show them what you can do."
Epic. Will miss both of those guys for quite some time.
|2 years 30 weeks ago||Yeah #3||
This data is all great, but such a teaser.
I can't look at those scatters without going,
A. "hmm I wonder where Michigan/OSU/ND/Sparty's dots are in there?"
B. "hmm I wonder who that outlier is?"
|2 years 31 weeks ago||Coach Jackson is that you?||
Coach Jackson is that you?
|2 years 31 weeks ago||Receivers||
It's a position where
(1) We need depth
(2) You naturally see guys rotate in for snaps behind starters
(3) "Easier" to learn/transition and you historically see a more guys make an impact as freshmen (S. Watkins, J. Jones). This characteristic is what separates it from D Line.
Next comes Pipkins/Bolden.
|2 years 33 weeks ago||Hate the Schedulers||
I also bought from the University. I feel stupid for wasting money, I am only mad at myself.
If - more generally - you're angry because we're not selling out, then blame the bowl system for negotiating a deal to put BCS bowls on week nights. It is probably a better financial deal and very logical/rational (ignoring whose pockets the money eventually winds up in) to do this, because the increased TV ad revenues from having one featured game per night outweighs having to sell tickets on the cheap.
Way more people would be going if they had not already taken the week prior (from Christmas to New Years) off of work.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Good Stuff||
Good Stuff & the commenters too.
IMO, thinking about it this way also makes it clearer as to why the initial reaction is to flip the D-Line when the offense shifts it's strength (something a lot of people complained about early in the season). Plus kids learning a new scheme in general.
I think with experience, the need to flip-flop your linemen when a TE switches sides after lining up goes away. You can just shift down.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Useful, but perspective||
I know it's a different situation w/ the bowl ban & new coach, but just looking at our starters... if you take away all our juniors & RS sophmores here's all you've got left:
and that's it (I guess you could count Hopkins & Dileo but that'd be a stretch IMO).
It's college football, almost everyone on the field at every program is at least an RS sophmore.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Pick your personal (other) top five||
(1. Michigan, honestly the best)
3. Penn State
4. Texas (Best road unis)
5. MSU (NOT pro combat)
Obviously, I like a simple, clean look. The "experts" in the article referred to this as "boring".
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Thanks for the reply. And I||
Thanks for the reply. And I agree with below, happy holidays and keep up the great work Ace!
|2 years 34 weeks ago||So 4 spots left...||
Would the coaches take 2 more OL if Kozan commits and Garnett/Diamond were the "any position best available" for the last spot late in the game?
To me it sounds more and more like Wright (or maybe Reeves), Grant, Kozan, Garnett.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Something Like This||
I agree with your hypothesis Ziff.
It sounds to me like there was a chaotic argument at half time about whether or not Threet was/wasn't hurt and could/couldn't go in the second half. If you stop and think about it, this would involve multiple coaches and multiple trainers. It may have started out on the sideline in the first half or in the tunnel on the way in. It is very possible that even being right there, Bacon would have only heard/seen parts of it.
1. Assistant 1 of the opinion Threet CAN play declares "he's not injured".
(Why would someone bother to say that aloud if it wasn't in question? I guess if he was crying for no reason, but to me the "is he injured?" debate makes more sense.)
2. Assistant 2 of the opinion Threet CAN NOT play goes to Sheridan and tells him to get ready to start the second half (Assistant 2 does not make the final call so Threet winds up giving it a shot. It ends badly, Sheridan comes in.)
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Love it||
DL, DE, DE, DE, DB
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Since the "Annual Christmas||
Since the "Annual Christmas Vacation Warning" yesterday there have been six posts in about 30 hours. I approve.
|2 years 34 weeks ago||What Have You Done For Me Lately?||
Remember these kids are 17. 1st and 2nd round draft picks at QB, last 6 years:
The only people to double up on this list are USC (Pete Carroll gone) and ND (Charlie Weiss gone, and Quinn was recruited by Willingham).
Cam Newton – Auburn
Jake Locker – Washington
Blaine Gabbert – Missouri
Christian Ponder – Florida State
Andy Dalton – TCU
Colin Kaepernick – Nevada
Sam Bradford – Oklahoma
Tim Tebow – Florida
Jimmy Clausen – Notre Dame
Matt Stafford – Georgia
Mark Sanchez – USC
Josh Freeman – Kansas State
Pat White – West Virginia
Matt Ryan – Boston College
Joe Flacco – Delaware
Brian Brohm – Louisville
Chad Henne – Michigan
JaMarcus Russell – LSU
Brady Quinn – Notre Dame
Kevin Kolb – Houston
John Beck – BYU
Drew Stanton – Michigan State
Vince Young – Texas
Matt Leinart – USC
Jay Cutler – Vanderbilt
Kellen Clemens – Oregon
Tavaris Jackson – Alabama State
|2 years 34 weeks ago||Down 15||
I think I agree, but one other tidbit to add on Down 15:
You take the uncertainty out of it for you, but you also take the uncertainty out of it for your opponent.
They may call their offense on the ensuing possesion much differently if they are up 7, 8, or 9. Especially depending on the coach, time, and timeouts left.
This is a very good cheat sheet to start from, but I think there is always wiggle room for contingencies. Eg., easier to justify "pinning them deep" if you are shutting them out in the 4th quarter rather than if it's a 50 - 51 barn burner.
What's annoying is when coaches reject this kind of logic as a starting point, and use some other bs justification on it's own.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Already Not Equal||
Why is the exact amount of tuition and on campus room & board at your particular institution considered a level playing field? Just because it's zero cash exchanging hands doesn't mean that they're all worth the same.
A degree from Michigan is ALREADY worth WAY more than a degree from EMU (both explicitly defined as what regular students have to pay, and implicitly defined as the increase in your human capital/future earnings potential).
Adding an additional $2,000/ year in living expenses for playing at Michigan is not going to change that "wealth gap" dynamic one bit.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||If this is all true...||
Which it likely may be, but it really is hard to get a concrete sense of it without "showing us the books".
But anyway, if this is true the one person you can expect to be totally in favor of shaking things up will be our new AD overlord, Dave Brandon.
Say what you will about his other shortcomings, but I don't think anyone can dispute that he is well equipped to make sure we are not wasting serious opportunities to generate revenue.
|2 years 35 weeks ago||Reminds me of||
"I think after 20 years we can allow ourselves to stop thinking about what Thomas Wayne would have done."
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Morgan yeah, but Demens too???||
"I wouldn't be surprised to see both current MLB starters see their positions come under threat."
Uh just curious, who are the multiple players you would not be surprised to step up and challenge for MLB spots? Beyer/Ryan moving inside, MOAR freshmen, something else I'm forgetting?
I get that Demens hasn't played like a superstar, but as long as he stays ahead of Morgan I don't see him losing his spot.
Here's to hoping Mattison learns as much from this game as he seemingly did from the WTF call in the 4th Quarter vs Notre Dame.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Charlie Weis||
The Patriots defense won them those Super Bowls. Charlie Weis gets too much credit for the super QB that Brady turned into after Weis left:
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Great Comment||
Agree with what you said about Delany caring about keeping "the rich" rich.
Post BCS (2013 or 2015 w/ extension?), I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a 4 team playoff that only includes the Conference Champs of:
SEC, BIG10, PAC12, BIG12 (maybe include ACC and use rankings to drop #5)
Also for non-winners in these conferences, I'll bet you could drum up better ratings for bad bowl games if your post season "bowl" was a SEC vs BIG10 and PAC12 vs BIG 12 "challenge" basketball style (rotate the match ups each year). That way, more college football fanatics tune in to watch Northwestern v Texas A&M. They could even make this post season "interleague play" home & homes.
If they don't do something like the above, I guarantee similar proposals will be raised behind closed doors by conference commissioners, if only to intimidate all the "middlemen" that can potentially be cut out (NCAA, neutral site bowls, non-AQ conferences).
I mean look at the Longhorn Network fergodsakes, this is all about identifying what everybody is getting right now $$$, and figuring out who you can take it away from to have even more for yourself.
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Pro Sports||
I understand the Fewer Teams, More Games makes a big difference, but does anyone in the MLB or NFL honestly "feel shafted" when they miss the playoffs? (I'm not even gonna address NHL/NBA where 50% of the teams are in.)
That's why I prefer:
Playoff of only conference champions, no at-large bids. Pretty sure it's impossible to go undefeated and lose your conference. Everyone controls their own destiny.
If you don't like straight up 8 team playoff, you could do 2 byes and a play-in round.
This has the other benefit of making Conference Championship games ALWAYS matter.
Who cares if LSU "is better" than Georgia if they lose to Georgia!?
Who cares if Alabama is the 2nd best team in the country if they already lost to LSU!?
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Constructive Suggestion||
I think what might be nice for everyone is if we could have ONE sticky thread per recruit. Either the OP or a Mod would continue to edit the post or diary to include all videos/articles/tweets in chronological order. Comments would be reserved for general board commentary/breaking new updates for those without edit access (these updates would then be incorporated right at the top).
I don't know if Drupal is really optimal for this though...
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Honestly one they might take||
Honestly one they might take to that I still find quite derogatory:
"Home of Joe the Plumber"
More tongue in cheek ideas:
"Rust Belt, USA"
"Jim Tressel was here"
"Best High School Football In America"...
...except for Texas...
...okay and maybe California, Georgia and Alabama too, crap!
"Fox News Republicans"
|2 years 36 weeks ago||Wasn't that Jim Mora Sr.?||
Wasn't that Jim Mora Sr.?
|2 years 36 weeks ago||I prefer the||
I prefer the no-second-chances-for-anyone playoff.
1. 5 conference champs:
SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, ACC
2. Get BSU/TCU/WVU in the Big 12 so they can have a conference championship game again.
3. Top 2 non-AQs have a "play-in" game to determine who gets the 6 seed.
4. Top two in the Harris/AP/Coaches (excluding the coaches in the freaking playoff!) get first round byes. Rankings determine home field until the championship game.
Have everyone from the Big 5 conferences to a rotating Big 10/ACC challenge style post season matchup, where the odd man out (5th conference deemed to be the weakest in that particular year, not sure what metric) is doomed to a "best of the rest" matchup post season.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Naw||
It's just a convenient nickname for someone who is about to be Hoke-d.
We are the Hoke-rs, and they are the Hokies.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Happy for us and RR||
When you hear your ex-girlfriend started dating somebody new (even when you decided to break up with her, it kind of hits your self esteem a little bit...
unless you're already dating a new smokeshow. In which case, you're probably pretty happy for your ex-gf if she's a decent person.
Big collection of RR to AZ coverage:
|2 years 37 weeks ago||"Michigan football team's||
"Michigan football team's Mike Martin says intensified film study is behind third-down success rate"
As important as this is, I think it understates a more important factor.
"Michigan football team's Mike Martin --- is behind third-down success rate"
There, fixed that headline for them.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Does Ryan Mallett count?||
Does Ryan Mallett count?
Tebow obviously does count in the win column but not in the "passing attack" sense that you meant.
But yeah, I agree with your point.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Shout out to Matt Markey||
At the Toledo Blade who ranked us #13.
(Ahead of Georgia, South Carolina, MSU, and Wisconsin)
Boo, hiss to Ray Fittipado (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) and Chadd Cripe (Idaho Statesman) for ranking us #19.
(Behind TCU and Baylor).
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Why cap payments?||
Not saying I agree with the idea in the first place. But why does any pro sport cap salaries? Because otherwise they get out of control and teams start losing money.
Funny thing about sports and markets in general, they combine two "ultimate goals":
Markets = "maximize shareholder value"
Sports = "win at all costs"
Usually pursuing winning makes you the most money, but definitely not always (LA Clippers theory). So how do you reconcile these two pursuits?
|2 years 37 weeks ago||User Submitted Idea||
For the OSU win odds chart, can you please plot a couple extra data points at the end of the game?
I know these go against the "result of the play" method but I'm dying to see what would show.
1st and Goal at OSU 4 Denard Robinson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the OhSt 5.
2nd and Goal at OSU 5 Timeout OHIO STATE, clock 2:41.
2nd and Goal at OSU 5 Fitzgerald Toussaint rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 1.*
3rd and Goal at OSU 1 MICHIGAN penalty 10 yard Holding accepted.
3rd and Goal at OSU 11 MICHIGAN penalty 15 yard Personal Foul accepted.
*Add a play here for “Fitz TD”. Then “undo” it to the actual result of the replay overturn call.
2nd and 10 at OSU 20 Braxton Miller rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 24.
3rd and 6 at OSU 24 Timeout OHIO STATE, clock 1:48.
3rd and 6 at OSU 24 Braxton Miller pass incomplete to DeVier Posey.*
4th and 6 at OSU 24 Braxton Miller rush for 7 yards to the OhSt 31 for a 1ST down.
*Add a play here (and this is fudging a little bit more) for OMG Posey is behind the defense and a 60yd bomb is in the air and he should score on this play. Then “undo” it to the actual result of incomplete, wow we’re lucky that Miller missed that throw.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Whoops||
Guess I'm just seeing things then.
Good extra info, thanks.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Caveat||
On second thought:
Purdue, Minnesota, and Indiana have 8 of the 13 B1G non-conference losses, which kills us in the computers for the BCS. It wouldn't hurt if they were a little better.
All 13 B1G Losses:
Minnesota @ USC: 17-19
Penn State vs Alabama: 11-27
Purdue vs ND: 10-38
MSU @ ND: 13-31
Iowa @ Iowa State: 41-44 OT (Acceptable due to ISU's win over OK State)
Indiana vs Virginia: 31-34 *Suspect "acceptable loss"
OSU @ Miami: 6-24 *Suspect "acceptable loss"
Minnesota vs New Mexico State: 21-28
Minnesota vs North Dakota State: 24-37
Indiana vs Ball State: 20-27
Indiana vs North Texas: 21-24
Purdue @ Rice: 22-24
Northwestern @ Army: 14-21
We as a conference should not be losing those six games. (Unless you're one of those wackos that roots for Non-AQ parity.)
This also is demonstrative of how in the computers, your conference is only as strong as your weakest few links, and it doesn't matter if you have "quality" non-conference wins by your stronger teams either this year or in recent bowl history.
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Well since you asked, I||
Well since you asked, I like:
Biggest 1: (us)
Big 4: OSU, Wisco, PSU, Neb
Parity 3 (one or two is always good): Iowa, MSU, Illinois
Little 4: NW, IU, Purdue, Minnesota
|2 years 37 weeks ago||Coach is an OSU fan?||
Seeing as Pickerington is basically in Columbus, I find it kind of amusing that his coach was more... proactive shall we say? in telling Jake about his Indiana offer than ours.
That's probably just the nature of recruiting Ohio talent, but it still makes me chuckle.
Congrats Jake on both offers, good luck with your senior year and in finding the school that's right for you.
|2 years 38 weeks ago||Brandon on Ads in the Big House||
And I would say we do much less in the corporate sponsor area than virtually any other college program that I know of. And certainly in the Big Ten.
“And the reason we do much less — we are pretty much the same as everybody with hockey; we’re the same as everybody with basketball. But the thing that distinguishes us as particularly different is we don’t allow advertising in Michigan Stadium. And that’s at a cost.
“In fact, based on what happens at Ohio State and Penn State and the bigger venues in our conference, if we were to decide to display advertising opportunities or commercial advertising opportunities on those video boards in Michigan Stadium, it would probably generate somewhere between five and six million dollars of incremental general. Which, for a $125 million business would be huge.
“So there’s a part of me that would like to do that. But there’s another part of me that knows I’d need police protection to get back and forth to work. Because, I’m a big believer, Sam Walton said, ‘If you don’t know what to do, ask your customer.’ And every bit of customer research that we’ve done with our fan base at Michigan Stadium tells us, ‘We’ll pretty much put up with everything but please don’t play commercials and please don’t commercialize the place.’
“So I’ve made a silent deal with out ticket holders and that is, I won’t put advertising in there and I’ll walk away from those revenue streams, but I’ve got to keep increasing your ticket prices. Because I have to be competitive.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||If I recall somebody||
If I recall somebody (fraternity/sorority) did it for St. Patrick's Day, don't know if it was 2009 or 2010. The following fall it was like everybody had them for pregame.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||Houston plays Tulsa on||
Houston plays Tulsa on Friday.
Tulsa is 8-3 with losses to Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Boise State.
One can argue that:
(1) They are the best team on Houston's schedule
(2) They would be undefeated right now if they swapped schedules with Houston
Don't sleep on that game. I wish it was on TV.
EDIT: Another random thought - on top of losing the way they did to us, be thankful to ND for that South Florida screw up. A two loss ND team with the potential to beat Stanford in it's last regular season game and leapfrog us would both annoy me and make me nervous.
|2 years 39 weeks ago||As far as the original||
As far as the original comment:
IMO, anyone who can't admit that an 8-3 Notre Dame team that soundly beat MSU doesn't deserve to be ranked #23 (it's only 23 fergodsakes), is showing their fanhood bias. (not that there's anything wrong with that).
As for Texas, they are 25 in the BCS, but humans are not voting for them. They got zero votes in the AP poll and ONE vote in the coaches poll (...Mack Brown?).
Can anyone explain why the computers love the Big 12 so much?
OK State @ 2
OK @ 6
Kansas State @ 5!!!
Texas (with 4 losses) dragged into the top 25 with basically no human support
|2 years 39 weeks ago||I have to disagree with you||
I have to disagree with you on jumping a 2 loss OK State, Oklahoma, Oregon, or Stanford. Those teams have been in the Top 10 all year, I don't see us passing any of them if they both have 2 or fewer losses, even if it's the last game of the year (esp. if the loss comes at the hands of one of the others aka OK vs OK State).
How I see it:
Things to root for / going on right now:
1. Beat Ohio
2. Oklahoma to lose two of three to Baylor (now), Iowa State, & Oklahoma State (which would give them three losses). Also... it would help if K State loses to Texas (now) or Iowa State, since they are also a two loss Big 12 team ahead of us if Oklahoma falls.
3. Oregon to lose to USC (now) & Oregon State (which would give them three losses).
4. Stanford to lose to Cal (tonight) & Notre Dame (which would give them three losses).
5. In Theory:
Houston could lose to Tulsa next Friday (BTW, Tulsa is 8-3 with losses against OK, OK State, and Boise State; So VERY possible IMO.)
If TCU wins out, they win their conference (not Boise. If they do not creep into the top 16 in the BCS rankings (not top 12, thanks Big East) and Houston fell, then there would be no non-AQ conference automatic bid. And since at-large bids are mostly about the $$$, it's likely none would be chosen voluntarily.
6. Va Tech to beat Clemson, so the ACC at large has 3 losses instead of 2 and we can breathe a little easier. Although I still think we'd be chosen first over a 2 loss ACC team.