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- Found it too far away from family & friends; he may be more comfortable closer to his home
- Enrolled early but was red-shirted; he may feel he has a better chance of seeing the field as a starter at WVU
- Did not like Ann Arbor; the student body, politics, & values too liberal for him
- Found it too difficult to major in engineering and play football; no internal assistance in helping him do both?
- Restored UofM's football program to an elite status
- Won a Superbowl
|3 weeks 1 day ago||I'll bet they both...||
...run excellent practices but the players still won't be able to execute on game day.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Spot on, JayMo4, with this comment...||
..."None of Beilein's teams have been particularly good at defense, rebounding, or post play".
Also, agree that a high PPP masks these shortcomings. Looks like that won't happen this year. Enjoyed your well thought-out comments throughout this thread. Keep them coming.
|5 weeks 5 days ago||The main reason Harbaugh comes is...||
...the opportunity to create a lasting legacy - the coach who restored UofM to its rightful place as an elite football program. He can build on the traditional tenents of Bo Schembechler and add a few of his own (maybe actively suppporting the needs of players who want to major in something other than programs like Kinesiology). Harbaugh is at the age where he is likely thinking, at least to some extent, about that aspect of his life - what does he leave behind?
Most of you young people on this board probably don't think along these lines, but I can guarantee you his father is at an age where he does. His father's legacy will be, in large part, determined by the success of his two sons, not so much the success he personally had as a coach. I would not be surprised if Jim's father has counseled him along these lines; you have an opportunity to rebuild UofM or to win a Superbowl; which is more important and long-lasting?
|6 weeks 12 hours ago||Harbaugh playing out the season at SF..||
..is markedly similar to waiting until after the OSU game to let go of Brady Hoke. Harbaugh made a commitment to his players, coaches, and organization to stay through the last game and UofM (Hackett) honored a pledge to wait until after the season to review Hoke's performance. They are simply fulfilling their respective commitments.
|6 weeks 2 days ago||Graduated in 1966, pre-Bo, and we were shut out in...||
...our first three Big 10 games in 1962 (28-0, 37-0, and 17-0) but it was still "great to be a Michigan Wolverine". I'd never been to a Michigan game before that and I just loved going to the games and everything that went with it. Losing made winning the Big 10 and Rose Bowl a couple of years later that much more special.
|6 weeks 3 days ago||Maybe, just maybe, WVU is a better place...||
...for Michael Ferns. Some possibilities, after a year at UofM:
One of my sons went to UofM and loved it. Another did not like UofM/Ann Arbor and graduated from PSU.
|7 weeks 14 hours ago||Gary Moeller went 6-24-3 at Illinois..||
...before he came back to Michigan.. How'd that turn out?
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Locals say Ohio State's Tom Herman is coming to Wisconsin..||
sorry about the double click
|7 weeks 2 days ago||Locals say Ohio State's Tom Herman is coming to Wisconsin..||
...because all UW needs to become elite is to improve their QB talent/play. Given Herman's success at recruiting and developing QBs at Ohio State, it's a great fit.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||People here don't think Michigan is a better job||
And given what's happened in Ann Arbor during the last 7-8 years, they could be right.
Also, Wisconsin has a well-established football identity (Big, NFL caliber, O-line, elite RB, etc.). Michigan doesn't really have one at this point.
|7 weeks 2 days ago||The first & foremost qualification is the ability of the Head...||
...Coach to put together a first rate coaching staff. If the HC can't do that, he'll fail, even if he get's a "10" on all of the other 8 criteria. For example, because of the multiplier effect and their responsibilities, those staff coaches will interact with players 10 times as much as any HC.
If you look at the coaching tree of Bo Schembechler and Hayden Fry, you'll see two coaches who knew how to do that. There are many other successful HCs who fit that mold as well.
|7 weeks 3 days ago||And 50 years ago, UofM was...||
... getting ready to knock off the #1 team in the country, Wichita State, the first time any UofM team had done so. UofM would go on to lose to John Wooten's UCLA Bruins in the 1965 NCAA final. Youn knew UofM was in trouble when Gail Goodrich was "fouled" on his first driving layup. That would not have been called in the Big 10. Three UofM players would utlimately foul out in that game, something that pretty much never happens.
It would have been fun to see that team (Cazzie Russell, Bill Buntin, Oliver Darden, Larry Tregoning, and George Pomey) match up against the 1989 team.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||A better question is...||
...will the results of the OSU-WI game finally convince some of the bloggers here that a Spread offense can be really good in the BIG and that a Manball offense might be considered a dinosaur?
|7 weeks 4 days ago||It hurts UofM big time...||
...in recruiting, but will have little or no impact on the HC search. Urban Meyer now has another big star to put on his bulletin board while we continue to fade like a burned out comet. Ugh.
If a coach is considering an offer from UofM, they will pay little attention to OSU's accomplishment. We already pale in comparison (when one looks at the last 10-15 years), which is all that matters, historically.
|7 weeks 5 days ago||There are multiple instances, Brodie, where Carr welcomed ...||
...Hoke with open arms. Here are a couple of references:
"Brady Hoke is a great choice for Michigan," Carr wrote in a text message.
I think from what I know of Brady, which is substantial, (because) we coached together for eight years, he's a guy with tremendous passion and love for Michigan, and for Michigan football and for the guys that play the game," Carr said. "He will take great pride in the way he represents the university and the type of program he is building."
"But I'm so happy for Brady and his staff and the players. Michigan football is where we want to be."
|7 weeks 6 days ago||You've got it backwards, Bagheera...||
.. to cherry pick data to support a conclusion. A real scientist collects data, analyzes it, and then comes to a conclusion.
|8 weeks 6 hours ago||Harbaugh's Legacy||
Which do you think is the most meaningful and long-lasting:
I agree. That's what I think gives us the best chance of getting him.
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Please, Brodie||
"It speaks to integrity that values the well being of your players, who were all poor fits for RR's O, over wins and losses."
Are you saying the reason RR lost was because he inherited a whole roster of football players who couldn't play in a spread offense?
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Well, jmblue, I disagree...||
... and so does John U. Bacon. I never heard Carr give one iota of support to RR. When I contrast that with how visibly supportive he was of Hoke, I have to conclude that JUB, and not your "reliable source", was correct .
|8 weeks 7 hours ago||Thanks for the update on DeBord, Bagheera||
However, I think Debord being hired supports the conjecture that Carr still has a big influence at Michigan. Debord was Carr's guy. So was Hoke. DeBord comes in after RR leaves. I'm sure DeBord never listens to Carr and vice-versa.
You should care about how a new coach, especially Miles, is received by Carr. If Carr's opinion doesn't matter because he doesn't work here anymore, why are his comments about Harbaugh worthy of head-lined articles in the Detroit News and Free Press?
|8 weeks 11 hours ago||No Carr Illuminati?||
Maybe, but why is Mike DeBord the #2 football man in the Athletic Department? How long has he been in the Department? What was his role during the RR years? Was Carr a true "Michigan Man" in how he encouraged his kids to transfer and failed to support the new coach? If Les Miles gets the job, will Carr give him the RR treatment or the Hoke welcome? Sorry, but those are questions and concerns that bother me.
|8 weeks 3 days ago||RR was a big winner before he came to Michigan...||
...and he's proven to be a big winner afterwards. Hoke was never a proven winner before he came to Michigan and, except for the big first year, has verified that he is a mediocre 0.500 head coach.
Neither succeeded at Michigan but the big difference is that one guy was treated like shit, for the most part, virtually guaranteeing he would not succeed, while the other guy was treated like a savior and failed miserably.
It's important to acknowledge those facts, but some bloggers here want to simply say they both failed at Michigan and move on. That's not acceptable. You have to look at why they were not successful.
Disliking someone's roots, accent, use of profanity, wife, music, and intensity are not valid reasons for undermining that person or their program but that's what happened here.
I would like to think this university would accept and embrace that type of diversity, but it did not.
Maybe we get a second chance.
|8 weeks 6 days ago||The players are there||
There is no doubt in my mind that UofM has the players. This game showed they can compete, and win, against a top 10 team, IF the game plan encourages them to be aggressive on both offense and defense. There were some outstanding performances out there by Uof M players. I think the returning players will do very well next year, if the new coaching staff is as talented as the players.
|9 weeks 3 days ago||I bet they're really missing Bobby Knight now||
I bet the Indiana basketball fans are really missing Bobby Knight now. 11 Big 10 titles, 3 NCAA championships, 5 National Coach of the Year awards, a 662-239 record at Indiana, plus a near-perfect player graduation rate. record at Indiana
|9 weeks 5 days ago||Now, Hackett worries me||
I was kind of taken aback by Hackett's comments re Hoke before the Maryland game. I was very disappointed that he held out the possibility that Hoke would return as HC. If he didn't believe that, why say it? He could have said nothing. Now, I'm worried about Hackett's judgement and ability to conduct a search for a HC or AD. Hope it turns out there is no cause for alarm. Could we ever be lucky enough to land another Crisler - the right man at the right time?
|11 weeks 1 day ago||Everyone here thinks Wisconsin is a better HC job||
I live in northern Wisconsin and everyone here thinks the HC job at Wisconsin is better than the one at UofM. And, they know Madison is a better place to live than Ann Arbor. Of course, you first have to listen to them talk about the Packers before they will even address college football. That's just the way it is. A different perspective.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||That's exactly my point, True Blue Grit||
To reiterate what I said originally - "the 'best' AD for today is the one who matches up 'best' with the current needs of the school and its athletic department."
I don't know why many people on this board seem to insist that previous AD experience is necessary. I do know that whoever decided to hire Don Canham was the real visionary and is the person(s) primarily responsible for all of the good things that followed.
|12 weeks 1 day ago||Don Canham was to the AD position that Bo was to the...||
... football HC position.
Now, take a look at Canham's incoming resume and the key characteristic of his style. He had no previous AD experience and brought a business / marketing ("corporate"?) mentality to the AD position. So, maybe the "best" AD for today is the one who matches up "best" with the current needs of the school and its athletic department.
|12 weeks 2 days ago||Let me help you get it straight, DoubleB||
As the previous posters stated, and as most everone agrees, there were no experienced players, none, on UofM's 2008 offense (except for Schilling). So, there was nothing for RR to build on or carry over.
On the other hand, in 2011, the offense, headed by Denard, had plenty of plenty of players with experience running the read option. That means there was an opportunity to build on and utilize that skill set during a transition to "Manball".
Does that help?
|12 weeks 6 days ago||Hackett will begin the search for a new coach, fire Hoke just...||
...before the OSU game (or let Hoke announce it will be his last game), and then hire the new coach. Depending on how all of that goes down, UofM will either remove the "interim" from Hackett's title or begin a search for a new AD. That's my prediction.
Re everyone's obsession with the need to hire an AD with previous AD experience, what about Don Canham? He was arguably UofM's best AD and he had no preious AD experience.