that's unfortunate, but at least the interest is there on both sides
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|5 days 1 hour ago||Why don't people get fired or...?||
Craig James, Ron Franklin, Jay Mariotti, Rob Dibble, Jason Whitlock...
Holtz didn't get fired because he was the right kind of awful, creating buzz without backlash. Awful's not so bad from the network's perspective; what they can't have in that spot is bland...which it's kind of degenerated into, now that the shtick's gotten old (Corso's probably getting to that point too and I won't be surprised if he also doesn't get renewed the next time his contract is up).
|5 days 23 hours ago||Quality of coaching aside...||
...the point of the D-league is personal development and showcasing. The goal isn't winning a championship, it's landing a ten-day contract. A demanding coach can make some progress with the teamplay aspects, just like a good AAU coach can, but the environment doesn't foster it.
|5 days 23 hours ago||You're probably right, and||
You're probably right, and that's sad.
But to me the real chasm in life is between having a net under you, vs. always being a crisis away from catastrophe. Knowing you can fix your car if it breaks down, knowing you'll be able to make your rent/mortgage at the end of the month and that the food money won't run out--that's the truly life-changing experience, no matter how much money you make the rest of your life.
It makes complete sense to me that someone that's been on the wrong side of that line would want to optimize the chance at the first million or two, instead of the $30 million. These long-term rational-choice exercises are a luxury that comes with comfort. Most of us here are pretty comfortable; it's easy to forget that some of the players we're talking about aren't.
|6 days 11 min ago||That comment got me thinking...||
In the NBA, teams like the Mavs have a coach hired specifically for each player...
There was an interesting article in the print SI a few weeks ago on Jeff Teague, how the basketball his father taught him when he was young got transformed in AAU ball, where he learned the importance of showcasing his own talents and "consciously morphed into an Iversonian gunner." When the new staff took over in Atlanta, Teague would get pissed when teammates made cuts or set screens because it was just somebody in his way. You can see the results after they finally got through to him.
I think the primary need of a lot of NBA prospects these days isn't personal skill development, it's learning to play with the other four guys on the floor. Teague was unusual because he'd learned it the other way first, but some of these guys have spent their entire careers in environments where the only expectation is that they'll show off their stuff.
You can't learn that riding the pines in the NBA no matter how much attention you get from your individual coach. The only way to learn it is to play, for coaches and with teammates that demand that you play as a team.
(And in passing it occurs to me that maybe this is one of the drawbacks of being a one-sport athlete; maybe it's an advantage to have spent some time playing a sport that wasn't quite as perfect a match to your abilities, to not be the star three months of the year?)
|6 days 22 hours ago||This sort of depends on where you're coming from.||
In a comfortable middle-class household that's true. For a child of a single parent making, say, $15/hr., $1.2 million is pretty close to the parent's lifetime income. Even after taxes and agent cut we're still talking about a couple of decades of income at least. If your family's barely treading water, or worse, that can be life-changing.
|1 week 18 hours ago||See a non-media college game sometime.||
There's no such thing in D1 any more, but drive over to Hope or Calvin during basketball season and see how fast two 20-minute halves fly by when there aren't any media timeouts.
D3 is all I watch in person these days. And high school. Coaches' timeouts don't bother me at all--they happen when the game flow demands them. But there's something about having the flow stopped by an outside force that irritates me, to the point that I've stopped going to D1 games altogether.
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|1 week 18 hours ago||Absolutely right.||
Linc Darner's record:
He's won the conference 6 times, won the conference tournament 6 times, gone to the NCAAs 7 times. And since year 2 he's won 80% of his games.
Green Bay's a good job, they interviewed quality coaches, they chose one. Everybody moves on.
|1 week 18 hours ago||Looking at the same drafts I quoted for Dekker...||
I think that's probably about right. Johnson's size will get him drafted somewhere, it's the Harrison twins that are the question. You can count me among the people that don't think anyone's going to use a pick on Aaron.
|1 week 18 hours ago||You expected higher than that, even?||
I mean, that's eight of nine mocks that have him going in the top 18. Some have him ahead of Kaminsky.
Of course he's coming out. He was already easily first round before the tournament; now he's moved up another 5-10 slots.
To answer your question, I just noted that one of the CBS guys hasn't updated his mock since the end of January (and of course that's the one that has Dekker the lowest). Of the others, 7 are current and one was done after the regionals but before last weekend.
|1 week 21 hours ago||Other than Harris...||
...have they ever had a player faced with the choice before?
Here's a list of their first-rounders since 1990:
Dekker's borderline lottery; they've only had one junior rank as high, ever, and he came out. Kaminsky last year was "25 to 45".
What they don't ever have happen, except for Rashard Griffith, is for someone to come out before he's ready. Nobody comes out and goes undrafted, as is about to happen at Kentucky. But you can't expect a lottery pick to stay in school.
|1 week 22 hours ago||A random selection of mocks...||
I don't vouch for any of these individually, but there seems to be a consensus here.
It's not just the tournament; he's been moving up these lists since last summer. I'm surprised there was anyone that thought he might come back.
|1 week 1 day ago||No, there wouldn't be any push-back on that one.||
I can certainly see how giving each team five timeouts per game instead of the current five timeouts per game is a no-brainer and will improve the game right away.
|1 week 3 days ago||Not sure why people want a lane-clogging big.||
Beilein's offense runs best with bigs who can shoot and can pull the other teams rim protectors out of the lane.
A 20-year-old Arvydas Sabonis probably means a championship.
Bird would work, too.
|1 week 4 days ago||All-time college football winning percentages...||
...as of the end of the 1941 season:
Army was 13th, Ohio St. was 29th.
|1 week 4 days ago||Wisconsin.||
But I still can't win--I had Virginia on the other side.
|1 week 4 days ago||A lot of really good players grew up in Wisconsin.||
Off the top of my head:
Maybe Porter doesn't belong on the list because he wasn't heavily recruited by any means, but he's exactly the kind of player Ryan looks for (he played for Bennett, after all).
I'm sure I'm missing some people.
Dekker's a good player but he isn't historically unique--except that he went to UW instead of leaving the state or going to Marquette like everyone else.
|1 week 5 days ago||Fans are never happy.||
I remember people being pissed about the one-loss seasons in the 70s.
|1 week 5 days ago||I think what I'm really trying to say is this||
I basically agree with your assessment of Calipari. He's never been known as a teacher of the game, his game management isn't that great, the only schematic advance he's got to his name is that 1-4 iso play you're describing that's been a staple of AAU offenses since forever. From a pure basketball standpoint you could count on one hand the number of coaches in the tournament I'd put him ahead of (and yes my hand has room for Rick Barnes).
So maybe it's worth thinking through why the best talent in the country keeps coming to play for him. It's not bribery. I can see how people might have interpreted some of what I've written on this thread that way, and I should have been more careful.
He comes highly recommended by people that are likely to have a hand in the future income of a top prospect. He offers a comfortable one-and-done year (or two, if necessary). He's not particularly demanding, nobody's checking to see if you showed up for your 8am class, he won't do anything that might embarrass you and threaten your future career, he can be counted on not to ask any questions if you need some extra assistance with your eligibility like Rose or have some unusual personal requirements like Camby. He understands a player's need for media exposure, won't get too upset if you piss away a possession trying to get yourself on that night's Top Ten.
He's trustworthy, from their perspective, like few other coaches are, so the Worldwides of the basketball world are happy to refer future stars to his care for a year. The player knows he'll be taken care of in return, won't drop too far in the draft if he gets hurt for example (Nerlens).
It's successful. It wins. It's self-perpetuating. The looking-the-other-way part can be problematic in the long run but nobody much cares at the time.
The question is: is it a reason to put somebody in the Hall of Fame?
And it probably is. It's the essence of college basketball now. Calipari to the Hall, Ryan and Beilein to a museum--I'm grudgingly learning to accept that that's where we've come to.
|1 week 5 days ago||I'm absolutely certain he's||
I'm absolutely certain he's got the basketball knowledge to make it work. I just don't know if he'd put up with it for a whole season--I think he much prefers what he does now.
|1 week 5 days ago||It's funny...||
I've never found Wisconsin basketball particularly ugly. It's basketball the way I was taught it, something there isn't a lot left of these days. Every pass, every pick, every boxout I find myself remembering some coach back in high school or grade school, thinking "yep, that's the way he said it should be done."
It's Kentucky I find ugly, despite all the talent. It's all iso and dribble-drive and throwing the ball at the hoop; when they try to run some stuff it's so clunky. There's something unnaturally self-conscious about the way they set an off-ball screen, like it's something none of them had ever been asked to do before.
It's hard to watch. And I think it was harder this year, because I've had the painful experience of watching my own former high school transition from one to the other. They hired an AAU guy as head coach and the focus now is on advancing potential careers by enhancing stats and creating highlight-reel moments.
But that's what people seem to like--if I hate it, well, too bad for me. It's what the media like, for sure, and understandably so. A solid 35-second defensive stand doesn't do much for Sportscenter after all.
|1 week 5 days ago||It's a really interesting thought experiment||
and I'm not quite sure what would happen if you gave Ryan UK's roster. He has certain expectations about how players should practice and prepare (and play for that matter) and he's carefully managed his program to make sure he always has players who will perpetuate that environment.
I don't know what happens if you toss a lot of freshman McDonald's all-Americans into that. Do they buy in? Do they walk? Does he?
And not just any freshmen, but the particular group of freshmen that in real life chose to play for the guy that "throws the ball out and hopes," instead of plausible alternatives like Krzyszewski. I think it would be a disaster.
Give Ryan Duke's roster and he's probably unbeatable. Force Kentucky's roster on him and you've probably got his resignation by the end of the week.
|1 week 5 days ago||"Worldwide"???||
Please tell me your screen name is an attempt at irony, because damnit I haven't laughed so hard at anything on this board in at least two years.
I really wish it was your first post, so I'd know you made it up just for this topic. But no....
|1 week 5 days ago||Well, no.||
I don't know anything about Saban or Meyer's programs. But we know quite a bit about who's on Calipari's rolodex, and that network has moved with him from job to job.
And as I've said frequently elsewhere, even on this thread, it's quite possible that the network's now able to stand down as far as immediate stuff is concerned because it can be safely left to the locals at UK, where improper benefits have been a very poorly kept secret for longer than I've been alive. Nobody really knows whether they need to do it or not, because nobody around here can remember a time when they weren't.
|1 week 5 days ago||To be fair...||
...it's not clear how much of that is due to Calipari's fixers and bagmen and how much of it is simply the infrastructure UK already had in place before he got there.
|1 week 5 days ago||Point taken.||
I think you can make a legit argument that it would be an insult to Ryan to put him in the HOF and lump him with those guys.
|1 week 5 days ago||They'll just change the plaque again.||
Coach John Calipari
|1 week 5 days ago||If William Wesley doesn't get inducted someday...||
...the basketball HOF really is a joke.
|1 week 5 days ago||Damn straight.||
And 50% of a college coach's job is to get the bagmen.
Although in this case I think the bagmen are running the show and the coach is along for the ride.
|1 week 5 days ago||Agreed.||
He didn't personally deliver the whores to Camby's hotel rooms; he didn't personally take Rose's board exams. Isn't that enough to completely exonerate him?