WTKA Roundtable: It Was 75-2 After All

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Things discussed:

  • Guys who picked 31-17 admit it was closer to 75-2 than 33-17. The offense moving the ball in particular was wonderful.
  • Don’t get too excited: Florida’s coaching is atrocious.
  • The 3-3-5 created holes for linebackers and confused Florida by not letting them know where the fourth DL is going to be (example: first play of the 4th Q).
  • Michigan’s personnel is really well-suited to this.
  • Amazing that the 3-3-5 plans never escaped the submarine.
  • Around the nation: Ohio State’s dudes are just guys, JK Dobbins just took Mike Weber’s job.
  • Purdue! Brohm is the most Tilleresque play they could have made and that’s what they should do. Craig thinks the season got harder.
  • Predictions for Cincy: 75-2.
  • “You can go to a Michigan football event and see up on a large screen an overweight naked man on top of a shark.”

You can catch the entire episode on Michigan Insider's podcast stream on Audioboom.

Segment two is here. Segment three is here.

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Comments

outsidethebox

September 8th, 2017 at 9:07 AM ^

Run a double tight end set

You've got a QB...or maybe you go wildcat with ???

You've got 1 WR

You've got a FB

You've got a RB

Final score: 49-0...no punts...well-rested defense throws a shut-out.

ScruffyTheJanitor

September 8th, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^

that I disagree with more consitantly that is a smart as Ed Feng. He seems nice, super intelligent, and engaged, but he seems to come to very different conclusions than I do when watching football. 

CR

September 8th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^

one of the most genuinely kind and thoughtful persons I have ever met.

He is also pretty damned smart aside from his fancy education (Rice Undergrad in engineering, I think; PHD from Stanford in stochastics or something like that).

But that doesn't mean you have to agree with him. It is fine to dsagree with every single thing he says.

That doesn't say a anything about your humanity---or his.

Thanks for listening to us, as an aside. I can't express how good I feel about anyone who spends their time with us. I feel truly blessed to have this hour per week with Ed and Brian and Sam and Ira. And the people who email me or call me; even those who think I am a routine idiot. I have become friends with a few of these folks and, at my age, friends and family are most of what there is.

So, thanks.

 

LeCheezus

September 8th, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^

I'm assuming this is Craig Ross, and I'd like to say that I enjoy your contributions to the show.  Somebody has to be the old wise man to balance out the group.  Can we call you Craig "Get off my lawn" Ross, in the most endearing way possible?

bluewave720

September 8th, 2017 at 7:27 PM ^

Craig, listening to you and the guys is great.  I love the podcast.  Sometimes it's hard to hear your voice specifically, like you are sitting too far from the mic.  

Also, I own your book "The Obscene Diaries of a Michigan Fan," and thought it was a great read. 

Mack Tandonio

September 8th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^

I agree with Feng to an extent. Brian can play the "what if" game regarding our missed opportunities but that can go both ways. Take away the strip sack and two fumbles on their side of the field and how does that change the game? I don't like all the hypothetical debate. You are what you do on the field, and right now we're a team that misses opportunities and spots our opponents points. That hurt us a lot last year.

Gulogulo37

September 8th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^

Good point.

From what it seems his numbers say and anyone says about his numbers, Ed does stats really well. Having said that, I feel like he relies on them too much and doesn't have more in-depth knowledge of the game compared to Brian or Craig Ross. That's what got him into trouble this episode. His numbers were fine, a fairly close win for Michigan. That made sense on paper, but then it seemed like he was on a mission to fit the actual results of the game into what he had predicted. A big reason for this is Sam sort of painted him in a corner (not in any malicious way) by mentioning off the bat how Ed was wrong and Brian was closer to being right.

wahooverine

September 8th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^

Brian is more right.  Numbers are abstract and there is noise within them.  Ed just compares numbers to other numbers to draw a conclusion without thoughtful interpretation of what actually happened on the ground.  For instance, Ed just points out 2.8 line yds per rush as an argument why Michigans offense, particuarly the line, was bad.  But he doesn't understand that that number is affected by what the UF front seven was doing (aggresively attacking our OL and gaps at the point of attack)  which Michigan countered with offset draws and designed cutbucks leading to chunk gains. 

LSA91

September 8th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^

I think the caller was right - Quinn Nordin is not the first Michigan kicker to make 2 50+ yard field goals in a single game.

"In September 1973, Lantry broke the Michigan record for longest field goal twice in the same quarter of a single football game. Nine seconds into the second quarter of a 47–10 win over Stanford, Lantry kicked a 50-yard field goal to break the school record. In the waning moments of the quarter, Lantry broke his own record by kicking a 51-yard field goal."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lantry#1973_season (includes a source to a contempory newspaper, for anyone who has archive access).

ETA: There's a thread about this on the board. Apparently, some of the more careful people either say that Nordin tied the record for number of 50 yard goals in a single game or they say that he's got the record for number of field goals for a first year kicker.