MGoPodcast 9.0: Preview 2017 Part II: Dudes In Need of Prospecting Names
58 minutes
the four horses [Aaron Bills/University of Michigan]
This is Part 2/3. Instead of making you listen to 3.5 hours straight we’re splitting this one up into three parts. That was decided after it was recorded.
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Defensive End
starts at 1:00
SOME DUDES. Rashan Gary is more agile than all of the cornerbacks, works out like a walk-on. Winovich was barely behind: Taco, Bosa, everyone but Don Brown’s last DE. Kemp is getting talked about the right way. Talking about Paye right with Vilain. Can be creative.
Defensive Tackle
starts at 10:55
Hurst is a lethal first step attached to a football player: triple-digit offensive linemen exploded into tiny pieces. Mone is a tank; probably not going to be worse than okay. Ace is not just talking up Aubrey Solomon because he took him in draftageddon it’s because he Ryan Glasgow’d Bredeson. We’d really like to see Mr. Dwumfour’s “Hurst-like first step.” Would love Lawrence Marshall to be a Godin but skepticism. Jeter stock up, Hudson stock down from our Willie Henry-level excitement. Paiea a better guard prospect we think.
Linebackers
starts at 22:20
Blitz City TFL Pool starts now. Michigan passed up two of last year’s best LBs for Devin Bush, who looks like that was a good idea. McCray developed into an NFL draft pick last year. Three words to describe Khaleke Hudson game. Don Brown: “violence, aggression, hammerhead.” Ace: “violent, violent, violent.” Brian: “shares a birthday.” Wrobo is fine if he’s Desmond Morgan. Then…freshmen. SAMs: more of a role this year for Furbush vs MSU-Wisconsin-Air Force. Uche is a situational Brown weapon.
Cornerback
starts at 39:04
Recorded before Washington announced his transfer. Hill and Long are winning the jobs but not at all cleanly. Watson can jam, and tackle after he gives up a slant. Ambry Thomas needs weight, Ben St-Juste looks like a Canadian.
Safety
starts at 43:42
Kinnel looked like Jordan Kovacs with free safety talent. Metellus is a savant. Both guys won jobs by default/beating Jordan Glasgow, who’s probably better at viper. Two true freshmen: Woods is a centerfielder and needs a better nickname. JKP…is he even a safety yet?
Defense Overall
starts at 47:40
Don Brown Year 2 bump = Top 10 defense? Top 5? Impressed how together they were in spring.
Special Teams
starts at 48:48
Quinn Nordin’s 48-yard field goal defies hyperbole. He attempted 3 kicks last year. Michigan has brought in a kicker expert—the walk-on crew can handle short range if Nordin isn’t the greatest kicker in Michigan history. Brad Robbins is Kornblue’s #1 punter with the right recruiting story. Cheeseman has great levers. Holder of the Year Garrett Moores returns. Peppers’ ability as a fair-catcher is hard to understate. Shield punting kryptonite these guys.
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MUSIC:
- “B.O.B.”—OutKast
- “Across 110th Street”
THE USUAL LINKS
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:08 AM ^
Need to label that picture the 4-Horsemen of the Apocalypse....because Hell's coming when they're unleashed.
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
Look at Hurst and Mone, and you're like--those dudes are 300+, no problem. But Gary is just another kind of 300ish. It's pretty incredible.
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^
No that was Notre Dame's backfield. These are the dudes who get under them and take 'em for a ride.
August 22nd, 2017 at 12:13 PM ^
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
Written preview going next week. Brian was writing some of it while I was driving us to and from Chicago, and if the number of times he started chuckling to himself is any indication it's gonna be good.
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
August 22nd, 2017 at 12:55 PM ^
August 22nd, 2017 at 1:47 PM ^
The MGoBlog pool should be on which of our receivers will flip to defense, because we're like nine deep there and can't even field a reliable third corner yet. Drake Harris is more like a salvage project; I can see another 1-2 folks getting the two-way trial among Black, DPJ, Martin, Crawford and Perry. There's room on that side of the ball, and a lot of these guys will have ample room in their brains even after they've polished up their routes.
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:24 AM ^
MAIZE PANTS FTW
Again, I still like the all-white. I just prefer the maize pants.
August 22nd, 2017 at 10:37 AM ^
I've been a big fan of the new jerseys since Harbaugh took the helm in general but those whites with the maize pants. Oh man, those are beauties!
August 22nd, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
From an SDE that literally has the speed & agility to cover spread-to-pass slot receivers? Good luck with that.
If a RT/TE double can't keep Gary out of the backfield, I'd say tuck the ball and brace for impact because you're sure as hell not going to scramble your way out of trouble.
August 22nd, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^
Yea, the defense is going to be very good. It's just a question of how good it can be with so much inexperience.
A lot of people might make a big deal about how few starters are returning. That's a bit overstated, however, because we all know that Gary is going to be a beast. And Mo Hurst is like returning a starter. So with McCray there's at least 3 guys we can consider returning starters. And Winovich & Mone should do nicely as well to round out the strongest unit on the team.
My concerns, however, would be in the back 7, with 6 new starters. There might be a lot of talent and high hopes that the new guys could step in and have an elite defense again, but that's not very realistic. Even though there will be a lot of talent in that inexperience, all it takes is 2 or 3 weak spots where the youthfulness shows that will provide a chink in the armor.
...unless the front 4 do a great don't and don't allow any potential chink in the armor to be exposed. I want to see how the secondary looks. Florida's passing game won't provide a significant threat. They might not get heavily tested until Happy Valley, and by then maybe the secondary will have gelled nicely.
August 22nd, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^
Yea, the defense is going to be very good. It's just a question of how good it can be with so much inexperience.
A lot of people might make a big deal about how few starters are returning. That's a bit overstated, however, because we all know that Gary is going to be a beast. And Mo Hurst is like returning a starter. So with McCray there's at least 3 guys we can consider returning starters. And Winovich & Mone should do nicely as well to round out the strongest unit on the team.
My concerns, however, would be in the back 7, with 6 new starters. There might be a lot of talent and high hopes that the new guys could step in and have an elite defense again, but that's not very realistic. Even though there will be a lot of talent in that inexperience, all it takes is 2 or 3 weak spots where the youthfulness shows that will provide a chink in the armor.
...unless the front 4 do a great don't and don't allow any potential chink in the armor to be exposed. I want to see how the secondary looks. Florida's passing game won't provide a significant threat. They might not get heavily tested until Happy Valley, and by then maybe the secondary will have gelled nicely.
August 23rd, 2017 at 12:53 PM ^
August 23rd, 2017 at 7:08 PM ^
I don't know. Let's play the game and find out!
Oklahoma will do some good things offensively, but other than that Ohio State's defense won't be challenged until the back half of the schedule. I would expect the defense to be top 5. The front 7 will be a beast. Plus, I've heard somewhere (cough) that the D-Line is better than Tampa's was.
August 24th, 2017 at 8:18 AM ^
I was asking about Michigan.
August 23rd, 2017 at 2:25 PM ^
Little feedback for Brian in general(WTKA and his own podcast) and Ace on the pod:
Learn a lesson from Billy Football on Pardon My Take and TALK INTO THE FUCKING MIC! Pardon the language there, but its a PMT ongoing joke.
I have to turn my car radio way up because I can't hear and then out of nowhere Brian will start a really loud sentence and it will blow my ears out. Brians volume is super quiet on the WTKA pods at times too and the same thing happens.
August 23rd, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^
DL can go a long way towards mitigating any early deficiencies in back end. Constant pressure and sacks makes it hard to throw to even wide open guys.
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