At press time, Harbaugh had sent Michigan’s athletic department an envelope containing a heavily annotated seating chart, a list of the 63,000 seat views he had found unsatisfactory, and a glowing 70-page report on section 25, row 12, seat 9, which he claimed is “exactly what the great sport of football is all about.”
Gedeon chose Michigan over offers from Boston College, Duke, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Pitt, Purdue, Stanford, Tennessee, and Virginia.
Gedeon earned first-team all-state honors last season with 120 tackles to go along with over 1,400 rushing yards and 27 total touchdowns. As a sophomore, he was a third-team all-state member after amassing 105 tackles, five sacks, 500 rushing yards, 300 passing yards, and 300 receiving yards.
FAKE 40 TIME
There's also a sophomore highlight reel from 247Sports; though it doesn't have any defensive plays, you can see Gedeon lining up at tight end, H-back, wide receiver, kick returner, and even quarterback.
I'm really excited to have him, because he'll be a great LB here at Michigan. It's just weird to think we actually have enough depth to properly develop him, now. No more, "Will he be okay if he gets forced on as a freshman" worries.
I am back from vacation, and so are the recruiting rankings. In this update, we see Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Penn State all edge closer to Michigan, which still is well ahead of the field despite not picking up a commit in forever, you guys.
Let's look at where we could end up (under the assumption we take 24 guys):
Conservatively: None of our 3 stars get another star, none of our 4 stars get another star, and our last 7 commits are 5 four stars and 2 three stars. That would give us 18 4* and 6 3* commits, for an average of 3.75 stars.
Realistic Best Case Scenario: Shane and a linemen get a 5th star, so does one 3 star guy (likely Conley or Smith). We fill our last 7 slots with a 5 star and four 4 stars. That leaves us with 3 5*, 18 4* and 3 3* commits, for an average of 4.00 stars.
Likely scenario is somewhere between the two, with an average of around 3.85 or so. Very, very good.
Ace (or other recruiting ninjas), has an Ohio State offer lost the import it held under Tressel? It used to be (seem) like they gave out 40ish offers a year to land 25 players. To me, an OSU offer meant the kid was damn good (especially defenders) and a very likely Buckeye. Now, it seems like every highly rated guy in the country sports an OSU offer.
Is there a real philosophy shift under Meyer, or am I nuts?
I didn't follow recruiting as closely when Tressel was in charge, but it certainly seems like Meyer is throwing a lot more offers out there. I should be doing a podcast in the near future with Alex from 11 Warriors (Ohio State) and Jeff from Black Shoe Diaries (Penn State), and I'll ask Alex about the shift in philosophy.
Alex can speak to this way more than I can, but as an OSU fan that's "tapped in," so to speak, I can offer this: Urban has a very different philosophy than JT. He has a much more national approach, which will inevitably lead to a higher number of offers. Additionally, unlike JT, his staff hands out what can be characterized as "non-committable" offers. Aaron Bailey (high-rated QB prospect) is a good example. He was offered with the caveat that Urban and his staff wanted to see him throw at camp before he commits. This is a pretty standard practice nationally, but one that JT rarely used.
I speak for most Buckeye fans when I say that we expect higher-rated classes under Urban, but one that will feature Ohio a tad bit less--which will ultimately allow Michigan to nab more Ohio talent.
In the old Hollywood Squares game show, when a contestant made a dumb move, the MC out of politeness did not say "Boy, that was a dumb move". Instead he would say "Interesting strategy, this may work out".
What I've actually found interesting so far, and maybe this is just because it's early in the recruiting season still for teams not named Texas, Michigan, or Florida, is that even though he's put out more national offers, the class still has a decidedly Ohio flavor to it with 5/8 guys being from Ohio. Of course it could still end up completely different if they get more national guys and stop getting the Ohio guys, but they'll probably still get Shelton Gibson, Caleb Day, Courtney Love, and probably Donovan Munger. That doesn't seem all that off to me from what they might normally see.
A small word of warning - your post is an echo of what Michigan fans were saying at this point in 2008. The result is that we missed out on talent from Michigan and Ohio. This benefited MSU and, to a lesser extent, OSU.
I am not trying to provoke an argument as to the comparative merit of Meyer or Rich Rodriguez. (There are a number of significant differences). However, Meyer's change in recruiting seems to mirror the one that RR tried to impliment at Michigan. It will be interesting to see how it works out.
“Your satisfaction lies in your illusions/ But your delusions are yours and not mine”
It use to be, if you were a top guy from Ohio ... you were offered and went to Ohio State. Period. That's basically how it was, while he was there ... and yea, he would lose out on a guy here and there, but for the most part, they got who they wanted from Ohio. Now, it seems, Urban offers and goes all out nationally, while the top guys from Ohio are told nay or yay, and for some reason, Urban has been telling a bunch of top Ohio kids nay in 2013; McCray, Butt, Taco, etc ... and it could easily come back to bite him in the ass. It should.
Not hating here, but I don't think UFM wanted Butt, Taco, or McCray. They never got much interest even from the old staff. And you are correct, it very well could bite us in the ass. Early returns, though, are that we'll be fine. Tressel normally went 60-70% Ohioans in his classes and that's what Urban has so far. I think he'll end up being in the 60% range annually (just my opinion), but the Ohioans he's going to take are going to be national level kids. Marshall, Burrows, Price, Lisle, and Thompson all have high-level national offers and are ranked in the Rivals 150. The biggest difference will be the fringe Ohio players that Tressel would take on a yearly basis. I don't think Urban will settle for a kid who may not be OSU talent level just because he's from Ohio.
There are more OSU offers going out, but that doesn't mean they are going out to lesser caliber players. Especially with a more national focus it seems, there will just be more offers from OSU. In this case, you cam rest assured Gedeon had a very 'commitable' offer from OSU.
Meyer is recruiting more nationally than Tressel did. Tressel offered fewer guys, because a higher percentage of the guys he offered were in-staters who were likely to commit. Meyer is offering a lot of guys from CA, FL, MD, etc. where guys are predisposed to being Buckeyes, and OSU is no better than the other top-flight schools they've been offered by.
I'm not saying one method is better than another, and it's possible that Tressel's method would have changed when Hoke was hired anyway, due to his ties in (and emphasis on) Ohio.
EDIT: I guess my point in all of that was that an OSU offer is no less impressive now than it was before, just because more of them are committing elsewhere. OSU is recruiting very well, so if Urban Meyer wants a guy, it almost certainly means he's really good.
As a knowledgeable Buck sort, have you also noticed a shift in the type of personnel that Urban is going after? I don't expect it to be the monster shift we had going from Carr to Rodriguez to Hoke, but does it seem like he wants a different style of player?
FWIW - Urban missing on a few Ohio guys might not be the disaster that we Wolverines wish it to be. It strikes me that he has awfully good recruiting connections outside of Ohio. I'll be interested to see how this all plays out . . .
will start for 2 or 3 yrs here. As for Urban... he is reminding me more and more of RR, national recruiting "his" type players... everyone is forgeting Meyer runs a "spread".... typical Ohio boys might not fit as well. Anyway... all the better for Hoke.... Smash Mouth football baby!!!