Rivals has him listed as weakside DE, fwiw.
there would have to be some to wash away
According to 24/7's Steve Wiltfong, Michigan has picked up their third commitment in the class of 2013 in Detroit Crockett TE Khalid Hill. Hill received his offer from the Wolverines today and also had one from Central Michigan. Informative update coming soon.
Rivals has him listed as weakside DE, fwiw.
Very glad to have you and welcome to the Michigan Family!
Scouts has him listed as a TE/DE.
I don't think he'll be a traditional Tight End. I think he'll fill more of an H-Back role.
Commence baseless speculation about Shallman not coming to Michigan if Hill was offered as an H-back...
I'm always glad to have new commits, but am baffled at how we take this guy right now -- this early in the process, but oh well... I'd much rather we use the first half of the year trying to get all the top guys, than as the year goes on, slowly bring lower ranked guys in. Oh, and before you say; the coaches don't care about rankings, I totally agree, but his offer list didn't scream - get him now or fear Central Michigan will land him, that's all.
People said something similar a year ago with Pipkins. He was a three star, and everyone wanted Day or Schutt or other guys. Just because the sites and other programs haven't figured him out, doesn't mean our coaches haven't.
Our coaches saw him in person, I'm not concerned.
But I look at offers, more than stars - especially this early.
I know people jump up and down throughout the year - like Pipkins and Joe Bolden, I get that, but his offer list, or lack there of, and his size, confuses me. I know it's still early.
its still early so I wouldn't judge the kids offer sheet at this stage. Think about Standifer last yr when we offered him and who he held offers from.....
But I get your point. Heck, Shane Morris doesn't have an awesome offer list, but the guy has so much buzz about him, and who knows, maybe the offers aren't coming due to so many programs knowing on how strong his Michigan verbal is, which makes sense. The buzz about Shane Morris is for real, just as the offer sheets of such guys as Jaylon Smith and LTT, they're legit because of their offer sheets. Offers are huge.
I often look at who offers a guy before anything.
I'm sure they saw something in the kid to hand out an offer. They've handed out really high quality offers this year (if you look at the other 65 odd offers, they are out to very highly rated atheletes)
Also - great to pick up a local kid.
If you see talent you want to get, you want to get it. It doesn't matter when it is in the process or how many offers he has. There's no point in slow playing a kid just to let him accumulate offers. They want him. It's the same reason they offered Shaq Wiggens when he was still an unkown, and LTT before he blew up.
And talent isn't always shown in offer lists. Desmond Morgan was a nobody when Michigan moved in on him. I think NW was his only AQ offer. And he wound up starting as a true freshman. Remember, we only have a vicarious relationship with these players, by way of stars and offers.
The coaches actually see these kids play up close, and know what to look for. Always, always trust the coaches.
Plus, not that it actually has anything to do with Hill, but internally I feel better that our last Crockett player was Brandon Graham.
Why are people always confused when Hoke and Co. offer a kid that isn't recruiting site or Saban/Urban approved? The kid went beast mode at their camp as a TE. They need help at the TE position, they liked the kid , and offered him. Haven't Hoke and Co. earned the benefit of the doubt by now? I mean they did win a BCS bowl in their first year of a transition correct?
That there have been numerous past recruits who, at the time of commitment, you weren't familiar with because they hadn't dominated one of the major site's top whatever lists.
There was a round of "Who?" when Stacey committed... then we were disappointed he didn't stick; ditto P. Brown... then we were bummed he opted for Oregon (after he blew up in the rankings).. etc., etc.
I know "trust the coaches" gets annoyingly overused, but our fan base is an informed one - you gotta know good coaching staffs don't overly depend on recruiting services.
I've been following recruiting for awhile now, and like I said, I look at buzz and offers this early in the process, and here, I don't see either. Now I have admitted myself - yes, he could end up better than I expect, and I guess we'll see how it unfolds. I am not upset by this, I am just confused.
EDIT: and I am still happy we landed Mr. #3 :)
I for one dont mind the Texas way of recruiting, they have their class 95% by Signing Day and only are in on a few big fish.
This year Michigan didnt have such a great record with their big fish however, if Hoke and Co. can replicate their success this upcoming year then we will start landing our share of NSD "Hat Pickum" presser's and have a nice solid class behind them.
With "big fish". Guys like Kalis and Pipkins were higher rated than anyone outside of Garnett that we were in on the week of signing day. But because they didn't wait, you don't see them as big fish. I think a lot of people would rather have a 4* surprise them on signing day than have a 5* QB make a commitment a year in advance.
The difference being that Texas can do that with mainly local five stars and some four stars. Michigan can't.
AWESOME! I LOOOVE getting those TOUGH Detroit kids!!! Go Blue!
Caught you (and everybody) off guard, didn't it Ace?
Both have come up a little short on this ... snap out of it!!
hurriedly writing Hello post
he announced his offer and his committment at the same time, so it was a pretty quick run down. TomVH retweeted him announcing both
He got his offer today and I hadn't got the chance to interview him, so yes, this did catch me by surprise. Wiltfong appeared to be the only guy who saw this coming and he picked up on it today, from what I can tell.
Fair point. But again, outside of a handful of top 100 type of guys, there aren't a ton of kids with insane offer lists just yet.
Besides, at this stage, offer lists are partly dependent on the school the kid goes to (i.e., some programs are better known, some coaches are better about circulating the tapes, etc.).
(side note: people are quite touchy with the flamebait category)
Thanks for the back and forth, and I still agree with what you're saying, we just disagree on a few very small tidbits, but that's okay. I use to just look at stars, but found that is a pretty bad way to judge a recruit, so I started looking at offers, who offered, how many top programs offer, etc .. in judging a prospect. If you're from the Midwest, and you have offers from Alabama, USC, and Texas, amongst your slew of Mac and Big Ten offers, I am going to go out on a limb and say that's a kid I want, just on offers alone, I could care less what their star rankings are. We all have our ways of judging talent, I understand that. It's early - like I said, and I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out. GO BLUE!
Aaron Hernandez is listed as 6'1". Dallas Clark at 6'3".
This guy was a camp MVP at TE, and Hoke/Co felt he is solid enough to offer, so why ask why? Plus he's apparently all in for GOing BLUE!
Not sure why you got negged there.
I just read the scout.com link - http://michigan.scout.com/2/1156247.html ... I like how they're going to use him, a HB/TE combo would work nicely. He has an entire senior season to show us what he can do, so time is on his side.
So...according to twitter he has a twin.
Aaaand according to his varsity jacket, he's the "Big Twin" hahaha I wish I had a twin to rag on. [EDIT: Apparently Ace got that part]
The kid looks mean. I'm excited that our staff feels good about this guy.
Yea, he's only 6'2", 225 right now, but he is also a HS junior. He has plenty of time to grow another inch or two and pack on the pounds.
I would say the great thing about having someone like Khalid in the fold is that they have a good one wrapped up and can now focus on a few select prospects. They can pay more attention to guys like Breneman and Matuska than if their attentions were divided.
I read this an instantly thought "THE H-BACK IS BACK!!!"
He reminds me of Aaron Shea.
I've heard some say Aaron Hernandez who is 6'2, 240...Hernandez has very good speed and elusiveness. I think Hemingway reminded me more of Hernandez than this kid.
He does play for a good program which is a plus and he had a D1 QB (Who early on, people thought may get B1G offers) to help his progress along as a WR.
Excellent News. Welcome Aboard Khalid!
Anybody know where I can pick up that Detroit Football t shirt? I would love one.
Welcome Khalid Hill.And also a hello to Dan Gibbs.Its great to be a Michigan Wolverine!
Yes, please. We'll take a player like that all day.
Welcome to the family, young man.
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Woot! Let's get this class rolling.
As a DE he reminds me of Brandon Grahm. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
I count 15 scholarships available for next year. I doubt that we will get to 20-22 as that will mean 5-7 early departures. That seems a bit high and does not bode well for being "all in for Michigan." And yes, I know that is a Rich Rod slogan.
There are 15 players who's eligibility runs out but you forgot to consider that we'll only have 83 players on scholarship this year for a total of 17. 3-5 players is pretty standar attrition.
Great name, great looking game. He doesn't look that big, but he's got a unique way of moving. Absolutely on the seam routes, just as his coach said.
I've seen this kid play for the last two years and he definitely has the talent to be a contributor at Michigan. The kid isn't 6'2". He was around that height as a sophomore. He is probably a shade over 6'3". I saw his father at a few games and he's around 6'4". I think he can easily add 30 more pounds to his 235 frame. He blocks, has soft hands, and is deceptively quick. I wish him the best when gets there in 2013.