for keeping the 'quickly' portion at the end. I told you I was gonna look for it.
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This week's Thursday Recruitin' looks at receiver recruiting in the wake of Darryl Stonum's dismissal, looks at the final updated rankings from three recruiting services, rounds up last weekend's visits, and much more. Usual request: please contact me via email or Twitter (or leave a comment) with any suggestions, tips, or links you think should show up in the next recruiting roundup.
After Darryl Stonum was kicked off the team this week amidst rumors of multiple in-home (Cal commit Jordan Payton [$]) or official (uncommitted Monty Madaris) visits from four-star receivers, it appeared that Michigan would try to immediately fill the void left by Stonum with a third wideout in the 2012 class. Now the picture is far murkier. Tremendous posted late last night that Michigan coaches would no longer visit Payton today, and he would instead take a visit to Washington, where his primary recruiter at Cal, Tosh Lupui, now coaches after a surprising decision to change jobs. Tremendous seems to believe Michigan still has a shot with Payton, but it doesn't look good—Payton had an interview with Scout on Tuesday in which he stated interest in UW and UCLA, but never once mentioned Michigan ($).
Meanwhile, Monty Madaris was initially slated to take a visit to Ann Arbor this weekend, but instead he's decided to travel to Michigan State, now one of his two finalists along with Cincinnati. Madaris, depending on where you look, will either decide this weekend or next, and either way the chances appear slim that the Wolverines will be a major factor. Four-star former Arizona State commit Kenny Lawler, who had previously mentioned interest in Michigan, also looks to be off the board as he narrowed his focus to Oregon State and Washington State this week ($, info in header).
So, will Michigan take a third receiver in the class? I think it would be a good idea, especially if they can find a bona-fide deep threat—a specialty the team sorely lacks without Stonum—but right now there are no obvious candidates on the board unless you're one of the few, stubborn holdouts hoping for Stefon Diggs or Dorial Green-Beckham (not happening, people).
There are other positions Michigan is looking to fill, however, and prospects look brighter along the O-line and even at tight end. Josh Garnett visited Stanford last weekend, and the blue-chip lineman says things are still even at the top between Michigan and the Cardinal ($, info in header). Potential money quote:
"It's pretty much even, really, he said. "It didn't move Stanford ahead at all, actually. A lot of people think it didn't at all. It's going to be tough to pick just one, but with those schools, there's no wrong choice."
That's not a particularly glowing quote after a final official visit to one of your finalists. If you're of the belief that Michigan held a slight edge in Garnett's recruitment heading into last weekend—and that opinion is becoming more popular among experts as time passes—then that quote would indicate that the Wolverines still hold a slight lead. At worst, it appears to be a coin-flip proposition, and he plans to announce his decision on January 26th, so we'll find out relatively soon. If Michigan can't bring in Garnett, they still have a very good shot at four-star OL Alex Kozan, who has the Wolverines in his final three along with Iowa and Auburn ($, info in header). Michigan had an in-home visit with Kozan on Monday, and he's looking to wrap up his recruitment soon.
The Wolverines hosted a few visitors themselves last week, including tight end Sam Grant, who now has Michigan in his final four with Arkansas, Boston College, and Oklahoma ($, info in header). Grant initially wanted to get his recruitment over with as soon as possible, but he's now saying he'll take his time to weigh his options, and all four of his finalists have visited or will visit with him at his home this week.
Four-star corner and tenuous Penn State commit Armani Reeves enjoyed his official visit to Michigan ($, info in header), and the coaches will be in-home with him on Saturday. He still has a visit to Ohio State set up, as well as a tentative visit scheduled to Penn State after he gets to know the new coaching staff, but the Wolverines appear to be in very good position to land his commitment should he choose to decommit from the Nittany Lions.
Also visiting was Jordan Diamond, and the behemoth offensive lineman not only enjoyed his visit ($, info in header), but allayed concerns that the large number of incoming recruits along the O-line would be a negative factor for Michigan:
“They said I’m still a tackle, but wherever they want me at (along the offensive line) I’ll do,” he stated. "I can play both tackles. Yeah, they’ve recruited a lot of linemen, but I’m a competitior [sic] and I’m willing to try to beat anybody out because that’s how it’s going to be wherever I go.”
There are a couple of Happy Trails to report to go along with Payton and Madaris. Four-star corner Kenny Crawley, a former Tennessee commit who briefly popped back up on the radar, will decide on the 25th and currently has Colorado, Georgia, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Maryland, and Michigan State atop his list ($). Four-star linebacker David Perkins, who Michigan considered as a running back recruit, committed to Ohio State this week ($, info in header).
Rivals released their updated Rivals100 and Rivals250 lists this week, and Ondre Pipkins shot up from #59 to #14 overall, picking up his coveted fifth star in the process on the heels of an outstanding week at the Army All-America Game. Touch the Banner has full breakdowns of the movement of Michigan commits—the most notable are a 29-spot drop to #78 for Erik Magnuson and a 41-spot rise to #111 by Joe Bolden, as all the other moves are relatively minor.
ESPN also just released their updated ESPNU 150, and there's an obvious emphasis on players who participated in the Under Armour All-America Game, which of course is televised on (wait for it...) ESPN. Terry Richardson is Michigan's highest-ranked recruit, coming in at #68. Royce Jenkins-Stone is #113, Kyle Kalis is #132, and Joe Bolden is #142. Pipkins's absence is highly perplexing.
"Defensively, the only player in my 50 years of coaching I'd compare him to is Lamarr Woodley (Saginaw High)," [Harrison head coach John] Herrington said. "We played Saginaw in the playoffs (in 2001, Harrison defeated Saginaw 31-14 in Division 3 semifinals) and Woodley was pretty good. Mario can't be blocked. He burst onto the scene his junior year. We played him just on offense his sophomore year. Don't ask me why. I remember against Novi, that first game his junior year, we said, 'Oh my!' He's got great speed, sure, but he's so quick off the ball. He can play pretty well in space, but it'll take awhile (to adjust)."
The adjustment Herrington is referring to is Ojemudia's transition from defensive end to outside linebacker, which appears inevitable due to his 215-pound frame. Other players of note in the Blue Chip list: Richardson (#2), James Ross (#3), RJS (#4), Aaron Burbridge (MSU commit, #5), Matt Godin (#6), Devin Funchess (#7), Ben Braden (#10), and Drake Johnson (#13).
Kyle Kalis was named to the Parade All-American team this week, and he also had quite the interview with Tremendous. Apparently, he was not to keen on speaking with Urban Meyer, and these comments set off a bit of a firestorm from trolling Buckeye fans:
Tremendous: Speaking of phone calls, did you decide to answer it when Urb hit you up a few weeks ago?
Kyle: Well, it happened like this: I heard the phone ring one night and I saw it was a 614 number and knew who it was right away because it was right after a speech he gave. Before I had a chance to stop my mom, she had picked it up, so I had to talk to him.
Tremendous: What did you guys talk about?
Kyle: It was really awkward.
Tremendous (laughing at AWKWARD URB): What do you mean?
Kyle: I was half listening, pretty much saying "uh-huh" the entire conversation. I was being respectful but in the back of my mind I just wanted it to end.
Quickly: Touch the Banner interviews Matt Godin; Drake Johnson and Godin will appear in the MHSAA's East vs. West All-Star Game on June 30th; and Chantel Jennings profiles Amara Darboh over at Wolverine Nation ($).
Holy moley this is getting long, so 2013 updates will come fast and furious.
Shane Morris interviewed with ESPNHS about participating in last year's Elite11 regional camp as they look ahead to the quarterbacks who will comprise this year's Elite11. The video feature can be found at MGoVideo.
Blue-chip RB Ty Isaac discusses his unofficial visit to Michigan last weekend with both Sam Webb ($) and TomVH ($). He told Webb that Michigan will definitely be in his final list when he decides to narrow things down, no matter the length of said list—that's obviously great news for Michigan, who could really use a dynamic running back recruit.
The other big-time junior to visit last weekend was Woodbridge (VA) Hylton LB E.J. Levenberry, who now has Michigan in a list of schools he's seriously considering along with Ohio State, FSU, Oklahoma, Florida, Notre Dame, Tennessee, and Auburn ($).
Quickly: Michigan offered Fort Wayne (IN) Bishop Luers LB Jaylon Smith ($, info in header); Jerry Montgomery paid a visit to four-star Richmond (VA) safety Tim Harris, who expects on offer soon ($, info in header); Tremendous talked with four-star LB Peter Kalambayi, who has Michigan in his top four; Baltimore DT Henry Poggi is looking at a potential visit for a Michigan basketball game ($); top-ranked Ohio DB Cameron Burrows will announce his choice today, and all signs point to Ohio State ($, info in header); and five-star QB/ATH Jalin Marshall will announce on the 31st, choosing between Notre Dame, Ohio State, Cincinnati, Tennessee, and Alabama ($, info in header).
for keeping the 'quickly' portion at the end. I told you I was gonna look for it.
Holy moley this is getting long
Like that's a bad thing...
Holy moley this is getting long
That's what she said.
I phrased it this way last time, I believe: there have been rumors of Payton being somewhat of an attention seeker in the recruiting world. Where he decides to go will be a good test of that theory.
Michigan coaches didn't want to waste their time and effort to see Payton as they knew Payton still wasn't on board with the distance factor. He'll stay out west.
Do you have a source for this information or is it an educated guess? If it's a guess it would be helpful if you started your thought with "I think", otherwise link please.
hey ace, I know it was mentioned last week but have you considered going to two posts a week? I thought it sounded like a great Idea and I believe thats how it was last off season or maybe tim and tom had seperate things. I don't remember. either way great work so far!
"This isn't sour grapes, but I feel like we dodged a bullet with Kalis."
Yeah, you really dodged a bullet, it's a good thing you didn't get a college ready, talented lineman that wants nothing more than to bury his oppenents. I'm glad to hear you don't want guys like that Ohio fan.
Don't forget, he'll give you his address, why don't you go tell him what you think....
uh, tremendous, but wow, it needs some posting board modding. I could feel my IQ dropping reading those Ohio fans drooling over their keyboards.
I moderated comments after letting that post ride for a bit. I guess I figured it really illustrates their fan base well and I'd let them hang themselves on their own rope.
Anyone else kind of disgusted that OSU has come out of this summer's shenanigans actually better off than they were before the sh*t hit the fan?
St. Tress was going to retire in 3-4 years anyway, so his reign of terror was soon to end, but if he had stayed Meyer would have been "off the board" as he would have taken a high profile job somewhere else (probably Texas) and not been available to "rescue" OSU's program. With Meyer's hiring, OSU's recruiting has absolutely gone nuts as they have landed nothing but 4 and 5 star guys and seem to be in the final lists of numerous elite guys yet to commit.
I consider all of this proof that God hates Michigan.
They did everything wrong and still ended up with exactly what they wanted. It is a little hard to swallow. On the other hand, I'm very excited with our program at the moment.
Next year's GAME is so huge it's ridiculous. If Brady can go into Columbus, and win, in Urb's first year... On top of it, Ohio doesn't go to a bowl, and we roll to Ann Arbor the following season with a 2 year win streak, my God it's going to be incredible....
and of course you will get the standard replies filled with false Bravado, about how this is Michigan fergodsakes, and we have a great recruiting class of our own, and you should expect Ohio to be good, etc.
I understand all that but it still galls me that after 10 years of cheating and dominating us they basically suffered one down season and that is it. They will go right back to reeling in top 5 classes and dominating the Big 10 (or at least their division).
Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about our future and think we can match up with Ohio most years, but it just seems like there should have been more pain to go along with their years of gain.
is that with the added year of probation, over the bowl ban, will possibly be their downfall. My reasoning is that a leopard can't change his stripes...or is that a tiger can't change his spots....bygones... But I think Urb will keep it clean for a few years, maybe go .500 against us in The Game, but will return to his old tricks and either get caught, or "retire" again using some lame excuse of health reasons. Really, Coach? You think that the ohio pressure cooker is going to be LESS intense than the one you had at Florida? ohio fans are so quick to put him on a damn pedestal when he hasn't coached one damn game yet in the B1G. I think that in a few years, we may be reading the Cbus version of Three and Out.
Urb will find that the spread isnt going to work and will have to retire again because of health/family reasons or he'll just get tired of being crapped on from Ohio fans
I know no one likes to hear this, but good programs are going to e good. Alabama cheated, they weren't down long. USC had a bad coach, they weren't down long, now they cheated and won't be down long. We hired a bad coach, we weren't down long.
Had Tressel stayed, they would have gotten a good coach whenever he retired. They are a good program, we are a good program, which is why we hate each other so much. It's also why it's so exciting.
I was still expecting OSU to end up with another Earl Bruce/John Cooper level coach. Those guys coached at OSU for 20 years and while OSU was still "good" during those years they were rarely "great." It's actually pretty hard for schools to get a great coach to come in after the one leaving office has had great success (and St. Tress had a lot of success) but OSU has actually upgraded their coaching situation IMO.
Btw, USC was pretty "meh" for two decades (the 80's and 90's) before Slippery Pete rode into town. They only had one 10+ win season and several losing seasons during that period. Bama wasn't as bad as that but they were wildly inconsistent for a long time during the period from Bryant to Saban with only Gene Stallings upholding the expected level of play. Traditionally good programs can (and often do) go through exetended down spells. I was really hoping this might be the start of one for OSU.
And what is the likely breakdown? I would guess
2 RB/ 1 RB + 1 FB
that's about 5 or 6 too many.
Our class will be 16 next year??
Wow - that is SMALL
...it was getting long...
Our class is going to start out at 19, depending on if anyone else leaves.
I count 15 before more attrition. What am I doing wrong?
OK then, your 19 number assumes we don't take anymore guys in this recruiting class, and my 15 assumes we sign the full 28. Yours is pretty misleading considering we'll almost certainly take a few more, even if we don't quite get to 28.
You're right. I didn't count any guys who haven't committed. And from what I'm hearing, we probably won't take a full 28. At least not unless we throw out some more offers.
With Shane I think they only take 1 QB.
Also, based on the trench mentality of the coaches I would guess they take 4 O linemen or more in every class. Or maybe one more TE with the potential to become a tackle.
Other than that I would agree that list seems pretty reasonable.
Since we didn't take a QB this year - we should take two next year (if Devin doesn't get his RS) and we have injuries we'll be in trouble.
4 OL seems way much particularly if AJ Williams switches and we take 2 more. I'd guess 2 or 3
My guess is that they make recruit additional bodies on the defensive line
that they will take 2 QB's, because we are not taking any this year. We will be hurting for depth as it is not taking one this year, so hopefully we will take 2 next. The issue is obviously who else would want to come in here, when a 5 star is also coming in...
First time I read the Kalis interview and......WOW! I love that nastiness he has and his attitude. Can't wait to see O-Lines with that mean streak of yesteryear.