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Revision of Presenting the 2013 Offer List from January 12th, 2013 at 4:21 PM

By wlubd — September 16th, 2011 at 10:02 AM — 48 comments

Below is a list of all the scholarship offers handed out to class of 2013 recruits.

A few points to make about the chart:

1. It isn't meant to be a comprehensive recruiting board. It isn't going to keep people posted on where we stand with each kid or which are most likely to commit. It's just here to track offers so make sure to keep up with the recruiting posts Ace or some of the other posters make to keep fully on top of recruiting.

2. Heights and Weights come from Scout. I'm not sure if they're the most accurate or not but from what I've seen in keeping up the 2012 board they seem to have the least egregious errors. I pull 40 times from any of the recruiting sites. In any case, take the measurables with a couple extra grains of salt since these guys are still juniors in high school.

3. Players are listed alphabetically except for our commits which I'm going to put at the top of each position list. This will make it easier on those just looking to peruse the Michigan commits so that they don't need to sort through 200 names to find what they're looking for.                                                                                    

Targets Ht. Wt. 40 High School Scout Rank Rivals Rank Commit
Quarterbacks
Shane Morris 6'3" 190 4.63 De La Salle Collegiate HS, Warren, MI 5 Star 4 Star MICH
Shane Cockerille 6'1" 195 4.7 Gilman School, Baltimore, MD 3 Star 3 Star Maryland
Riley Ferguson 6'2" 190 4.8 Butler HS, Matthews, NC 3 Star 3 Star Texas
Kevin Olsen 6'3" 189   Wayne Hills HS, Wayne, NJ 4 Star 4 Star Miami
Running Backs
Wyatt Shallman 6'3" 245 4.95 Detroit Catholic Central HS, Novi, MI 4 Star 4 Star MICH
DeVeon Smith 5'11" 210   Howland HS, Warren, OH 4 Star 3 Star MICH
Justin Davis 6'1" 195   Lincoln HS, Stockton, CA 5 Star 4 Star USC
Keith Ford 5'11" 195   Cypress Ranch HS, Cypress, TX 5 Star 4 Star OU
Derrick Green 5'11" 220 4.31 Hermitage HS, Richmond, VA 4 Star 4 Star  
Kyle Hicks 5'10" 185   Martin HS, Arlington, TX 4 Star 4 Star Texas
Ty Isaac 6'2" 220   Joliet Catholic Academy, Joliet, IL 5 Star 4 Star USC
JoJo Kemp 5'10" 190   Deland HS, Deland, FL 4 Star 3 Star USF
Jordan Wilkins 6'0" 205   St. Benedict at Auburndale HS, Cordova, TN 3 Star 4 Star Auburn
Wide Receivers
Jaron Dukes 6'4" 200 4.6 Marion-Franklin HS, Columbus, OH 4 Star 3 Star MICH
Csont'e York 6'3" 190 4.52 Chandler Park Academy, Harper Woods, MI 3 Star 3 Star MICH
Da'Mario Jones 6'2" 185 4.4 John Glenn HS, Westland, MI NR NR MICH
Devon Allen 6'1" 190 4.5 Brophy College Prep, Phoenix, AZ 4 Star 4 Star  
Marcell Ateman 6'4" 190 4.5 Wylie East HS, Wylie, TX 3 Star 4 Star Ok. St.
Alvin Bailey 5'11" 175 4.7 Armwood HS, Seffner, FL 3 Star 4 Star  
Richard Benjamin 6'1" 180   Middleton HS, Tampa, FL 3 Star 3 Star UCF
Zach Bradshaw 6'3" 205 4.6 Damascus HS, Damascus, MD 3 Star 3 Star PSU
Shelby Christy 6'3" 190   Dutchtown HS, Geismar, LA 3 Star 3 Star Miss St
Jordan Cunningham 6'3" 175 4.5 University School, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 3 Star 4 Star  
Darrell Daniels 6'3" 210 4.5 Freedom HS, Oakley, CA 4 Star 4 Star U Wash.
Robert Foster 6'2" 190 4.49 Central Valley HS, Monaca, PA 5 Star 4 Star Alabama
Kevin Gladney 6'2" 185   Firestone SHS, Akron, OH 3 Star 3 Star Nebraska
Paul Harris 6'4" 190 4.60 Frederick Douglass HS, Upper Marlboro, MD 3 Star 4 Star Tenn
Kyle LaPorte 5'10" 175   Piscataway HS, Piscataway, NJ 2 Star 3 Star  
Sebastian LaRue 6'0" 185   Santa Monica HS, Santa Monica, CA 4 Star 4 Star  
Uriah LeMay 6'2" 188 4.54 Butler HS, Matthews, NC 3 Star 4 Star Georgia
Eldridge Massington 6'3" 205 4.5 West Mesquite HS, Mesquite, TX 4 Star 4 Star USC
Eric Moate 5'11" 170   Spoto HS, Tampa, FL NR NR  
Marquez North 6'3" 210 4.48 Mallard Creek HS, Charlotte, NC 4 Star 4 Star  
Jake Oliver 6'3" 185 4.59 Jesuit College Prep School, Dallas, TX 4 Star 4 Star Texas
James Onwualu 6'1" 185 4.75 Cretin-Derham Hall HS, St. Paul, MN 3 Star 3 Star Notre Dame
James Quick 6'1" 175 4.41 Trinity HS, Louisville, KY 5 Star 4 Star  
Demore'ea Stringfellow 6'3" 195   Rancho Verde HS, Moreno Valley, CA 3 Star 4 Star U Wash
Laquon Treadwell 6'3" 190   Crete-Monee HS, Crete, IL 4 Star 4 Star  
Rob Wheelwright 6'2" 170 5.1 Walnut Ridge HS, Columbus, OH 4 Star 3 Star Wisc
Tight Ends
Jake Butt 6'6" 220   Pickerington North HS, Pickerington, OH 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Khalid Hill 6'3" 235 5.11 Crockett Technical HS, Detroit, MI 3 Star 3 Star MICH
Adam Breneman 6'5" 220   Cedar Cliff HS, Camp Hill, PA 5 Star 4 Star PSU
Standish Dobard 6'5" 230 4.72 Edna Karr Magnet School, New Orleans, LA 4 Star 4 Star Miami
Jacob Matuska 6'4" 220 4.7 Bishop Hartley HS, Columbus, OH 3 Star 3 Star ND
Scott Orndoff 6'5" 240   Seton La Salle HS, Pittsburgh, PA 3 Star 3 Star Pitt
Durham Smythe 6'6" 230 4.8 Belton HS, Belton, TX 3 Star 3 Star Texas
Offensive Linemen
Kyle Bosch 6'5" 280   St. Francis HS, Wheaton, IL 4 Star 4 Star MICH
David Dawson 6'4" 290 5.4 Cass Technical School, Detroit, MI 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Chris Fox 6'5" 285 5.5 Ponderosa HS, Parker, CO 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Patrick Kugler 6'4" 270 5.1 North Allegheny SHS, Wexford, PA 5 Star 4 Star MICH
Logan Tuley-Tillman 6'7" 301   Manual HS, Peoria, IL 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Dan Samuelson 6'5" 275 5.3 Plymouth, IN 4 Star 3 Star MICH
Cameron Hunt 6'4" 267 5.4 Corona, CA 4 Star 4 Star CAL
Hunter Bivin 6'7" 287   Apollo HS, Owensboro, KY 4 Star 4 Star ND
Steven Elmer 6'6" 297 5.15 Midland HS, Midland, MI 4 Star 4 Star ND
Tim Gardner 6'5" 320   Lawrence Central HS, Indianapolis, IN 2 Star 3 Star OSU
J.J. Gustafson 6'6" 270   Jesuit College Prep School, Dallas, TX 4 Star 3 Star TAMU
Kenny Lacy 6'6" 270   Mountain Pointe, Phoenix, AZ 4 Star 4 Star UCLA
Marcell Lazard 6'5" 280   Bloomfield HS, Bloomfield, NJ 3 Star 3 Star WVU
Evan Lisle 6'6" 275   Centerville HS, Centerville, OH 4 Star 4 Star OSU
Brendan Mahon 6'5" 300   Randolf HS, Randolf, NJ 3 Star 4 Star PSU
Mike McGlinchey 6'7" 265 5.0 William Penn Charter School, Philadelphia, PA 4 Star 3 Star ND
Colin McGovern 6'6" 280   Lincoln-Way West HS, New Lenox, IL 4 Star 3 Star ND
John Montelus 6'5" 295   Everett HS, Everett, MA 4 Star 4 Star ND
Ethan Pocic 6'6" 280   Lemont HS, Lemont, IL 4 Star 4 Star LSU
Jake Raulerson 6'5" 250 4.9 Celina HS, Celina, TX 4 Star 4 Star Texas
Laremy Tunsil 6'6" 282   Columbia HS, Lake City, FL 5 Star 5 Star  
Ishmael Wilson 6'5" 275 5.0 Bishop Dunne HS, Dallas, TX 4 Star 4 Star TAMU
Defensive Ends
Taco Charlton 6'6" 235 4.8 Pickerington Central HS, Pickerington, OH 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Jonathan Allen 6'3" 225 4.5 Stone Bridge HS, Ashburn, VA 4 Star 4 Star Alabama
Josh Augusta 6'5" 260   Peoria HS, Peoria, IL 3 Star 3 Star  
Joey Bosa 6'5" 262   St. Thomas Aquinas HS, Fort Lauderdale, FL 5 Star 4 Star OSU
Tashawn Bower 6'5" 228 4.8 Immaculata HS, Somerville, NJ 4 Star 4 Star Auburn
Reginald Carter 6'2" 230 4.95 South Gwinnett HS, Snellville, GA 3 Star 3 Star Georgia
Elijah Daniel 6'3" 230 4.7 Avon HS, Avon, IN 4 Star 4 Star Clemson
Dajuan Drennon 6'4" 230 4.7 Timber Creek HS, Sicklerville, NJ 3 Star 3 Star UNC
Jason Hatcher 6'3" 230 4.7 Trinity HS, Louisville, KY 4 Star 4 Star USC
Christian Lacouture 6'4" 240   A&M Consolidated HS, College Station, TX 4 Star 3 Star Nebraska
Joe Mathis 6'4" 250 4.69 Upland HS, Upland, CA 4 Star 4 Star  
Alquadin Muhammad 6'4" 230 4.65 Don Bosco Prep, Ramsey, NJ 4 Star 4 Star  
Wyatt Teller 6'5" 253 5.0 Liberty HS, Bealeton, VA 3 Star 4 Star Va Tech
Defensive Tackles
Maurice Hurst Jr. 6'2" 290 4.88 Xaverian Brothers HS, Westwood, MA 4 Star 3 Star MICH
Henry Poggi 6'4" 260 4.7 Gilman School, Baltimore, MD 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Montravius Adams 6'3" 285   Dooly County HS, Vienna, GA 5 Star 4 Star  
Rod Crayton 6'1" 285   Dadeville HS, Dadeville, AL 3 Star 4 Star  
Jay Ellison 6'1" 278 5.21 Harris County HS, Hamilton, GA 3 Star 3 Star  
Michael Hill 6'2" 315   Pendleton HS, Pendleton, SC 4 Star 4 Star OSU
Darius Latham 6'5" 285   North Central HS, Indianapolis, IN 4 Star 4 Star Indiana
Justin Manning 6'2" 275 5.0 Kimball HS, Dallas, TX 5 Star 4 Star TAMU
Scott Pagano 6'3" 280 5.31 Moanalua HS, Honolulu, HI 4 Star 3 Star Clemson
Billy Price 6'4" 265 5.01 Fitch HS, Austintown, OH 4 Star 4 Star OSU
Elijah Qualls 6'2" 260   Casa Grande HS, Petaluma, CA 4 Star 3 Star Wash
Eddie Vanderdoes 6'4" 285 4.9 Placer HS, Auburn, CA 5 Star 4 Star USC
Hardreck Walker 6'2" 282   Westfield HS, Houston, TX 4 Star 3 Star TAMU
Greg Webb 6'3" 290   Timber Creek HS, Sicklerville, NJ 4 Star 4 Star PSU
Linebackers
Ben Gedeon 6'2" 200   Hudson HS, Hudson, OH 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Michael McCray 6'2" 220 4.6 Trotwood-Madison HS, Trotwood, OH 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Alex Anzalone 6'3" 220   Wyomissing Area SHS, Wyomissing, PA 4 Star 4 Star ND
Larenz Bryant 6'2" 205 4.63 Zebulon B. Vance HS, Charlotte, NC 4 Star 4 Star South Carolina
Michael Hutchings 6'1" 210   De La Salle HS, Concord, CA 5 Star 4 Star USC
Shane Jones 6'1" 215   Moeller HS, Cincinnati, OH 3 Star 4 Star MSU
Peter Kalambayi 6'2" 235 4.5 Butler HS, Matthews, NC 4 Star 4 Star Stanford
E.J. Levenberry Jr. 6'3" 220   C.D. Hylton HS, Woodbridge, VA 4 Star 4 Star FSU
Yannick Ngakoue 6'2" 225   Friendship Charter School, Washington, DC 3 Star 4 Star Maryland
Dorian O'Daniel 6'2" 205 4.6 Our Lady of Good Counsel HS, Olney, MD 4 Star 4 Star Clem
Jon Reschke 6'2" 229   Brother Rice HS, Bloomfield, MI 4 Star 4 Star MSU
Matt Rolin 6'4" 205 4.6 Briar Woods HS, Ashburn, VA 4 Star 3 Star South Carolina
Jaylon Smith 6'3" 225 4.55 Bishop Luers HS, Fort Wayne, IN 5 Star 4 Star ND
Cornerbacks
Ross Douglas 5'10" 180 4.5 Avon HS, Avon, OH 3 Star 4 Star MICH
Jourdan Lewis 5'9" 160 4.4 Cass Technical School, Detroit, MI 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Channing Stribling 6'2" 165 4.6 Butler HS, Matthews, NC 3 Star 2 Star MICH
Nadir Barnwell  5'11" 188 4.4 Piscataway Twp. HS, Piscataway, NJ 4 Star 4 Star Rutgers
Tre Bell 5'11" 170   St. Peter's Prep, Jersey City, NJ 3 Star 3 Star Florida
Cameron Burrows 6'2" 195 4.46 Trotwood-Madison HS, Trotwood, OH 4 Star 5 Star OSU
Devin Butler 6'1" 170   Gonzaga College HS, Washington, DC 3 Star 3 Star ND
Gareon Conley 6'2" 170 4.5 Washington HS, Massillon, OH 4 Star 3 Star OSU
Antwuan Davis 6'1" 171 4.4 Bastrop HS, Bastrop, TX 4 Star 4 Star Texas
Kendall Fuller 6'0" 185 4.5 Our Lady of Good Counsel HS, Olney, MD 5 Star 5 Star Va Tech
Vernon Hargreaves III 5'11" 181 4.45 Wharton HS, Tampa, FL 5 Star 5 Star Florida
Tim Harris 6'2" 169 4.62 Varina HS, Richmond, VA 3 Star 4 Star Virginia
Chris Hawkins 6'0" 170   Rancho Cucamonga HS, Rancho Cucamonga, CA 4 Star 4 Star USC
Cole Luke 6'0" 165 4.45 Hamilton HS, Chandler, AZ 4 Star 4 Star ND
John Ross 5'11" 175   Jordan HS, Long Beach, CA 4 Star 4 Star Wash  
Maurice Smith 5'11" 178   Dulles HS, Sugar Land, TX 4 Star 3 Star Alabama
Cameron Walker 5'11" 180   Loyola HS, Los Angeles, CA 3 Star 3 Star Cal
Ryan White 5'9" 175 4.96 Trinity HS, Louisville, KY 4 Star 3 Star L'Ville
Shaquille Wiggins 5'10" 160 4.49 Sandy Creek HS, Tyrone, GA 4 Star 3 Star UGA
Priest Willis 6'2" 190 4.4 Marcos De Niza HS, Tempe, AZ 4 Star 4 Star  
Eli Woodard 6'1" 180 4.4 Eastern HS, Voorhees, NJ 4 Star 4 Star OSU
Safeties
Delano Hill 6'0" 198 4.44 Cass Technical School, Detroit, MI 4 Star 4 Star MICH
Dymonte Thomas 6'1" 180 4.53 Marlington HS, Alliance, OH 5 Star 4 Star MICH
Su'a Cravens 6'1" 205   Vista Murrieta HS, Murrieta, CA 5 Star 5 Star USC
Tray Matthews 6'1" 191 4.53 Newnan HS, Newnan, GA 4 Star 4 Star UGA
Leon McQuay III 6'1" 175 4.57 Armwood HS, Seffner, FL 4 Star 4 Star USC
Long Snappers
Scott Sypniewski 6'1" 230   Ottawa Township HS, Ottawa, IL 2 Star 2 Star MICH

Michigan has made 132 offers.  

  • 4 QBs
  • 9 RBs
  • 25 WRs
  • 7 TEs
  • 22 OL 
  • 13 DEs
  • 14 DTs
  • 12 LBs
  • 21 CBs
  • 4 Ss 
  • 1 LS

Latest Revision: 01/12/13

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:35 AM
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Taco

First, Bud, thanks for doing this!

Second, do you have an educated guess you can share as to where Taco might end up being rated?  I am in the "I Am A Dope" category when it comes to guessing next-level potential for kids and always appreciate a little help from someone with some actual talent for it.

I do rate him very highly for his excellent nickname, of course.

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:42 AM
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Not sure where Charlton will

Not sure where Charlton will end up rated. He's one of those kids who will get a lot of offers based on his future potential (he's raw; only played for a couple years). Those kids also usually have a lot of variance in where they're ranked.

I'd say he's a high 3*/low 4* type similar to how Ojemudia is rated in 2012.

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:38 AM
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Awesome

I figured this was coming soon. Thanks for all your super obsessive work, wlubd!

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:38 AM
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Taco...

Seen this kid play.  He is probably in the low 4* category with his play last year, but this is they type of kid that could blow up.  

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:41 AM
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What amazes me

is that only 3 of them are from Michigan.

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September 16th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
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We're recruiting nationally now?!

Dantonio's gonna be pissed.

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
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Peter Kalambay

I was at this kid's game last week and thought to myself he'd be a great fit at UM.  He makes you take notice when he's on the field.

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September 16th, 2011 at 10:53 AM
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Great summary thanks

I was surprised to see Wyatt Shallman's 40 time at 4.95.  I've read elsewhere he was more in the 4.7 range.  If it is 4.95, that's more DE speed than RB.  But generally, I'd like to see us getting some more offers out to elite running backs.  I'm sure the coaches are working on it when time allows. 

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:17 AM
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I really don't think Shallman

I really don't think Shallman is a future tailback at Michigan, at least not a feature back.  He's too slow, whether he runs a 4.7 or a 4.95.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:28 AM
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If the 4.95 is legit, as in

If the 4.95 is legit, as in it's laser-timed, then I wouldn't worry about it too much.  Any kid who weighs 255lbs won't be running much under 4.95 before his junior season unless he's a total freak.  Brionte Dunn runs about a 4.7 and he's a year older and weighs 40 pounds less. 

I'd expect Shallman to run in the 4.8 range as a senior, and that's plenty fast for a guy that size.  Ron Dayne and Jerome Bettis weren't outrunning DBs, Shallman doesn't need to either.

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Dayne and Bettis both ran

Dayne and Bettis both ran around 4.5 at the combine. Hopefully shallman can make more of a climb than 4.8.

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September 16th, 2011 at 7:53 PM
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First of all - what is

First of all - what is "around" 4.5? 4.6? Either way, we're not talking about what Shallman will run after college, we're talking about what he'll run before college, as a recruit. I don't expect Wyatt Shallman to run as a 17 year old what Ron Dayne ran at the NFL combine.

EDIT:  According to this website:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=60641&draftyear=2000&genpos=RB

it says that Ron Dayne ran a 4.65 pre-draft.  I'm not sure if that's pro day or combine, but that's what is listed.  I can't find any definitive from Bettis but most of the stuff I've seen show him closer to the 4.5 you suggest. 

Either way, these are times taken just months before those guys were taken 11th and 10th, respectively in the NFL draft.  Shallman right now is a 255lb 16 year old.  To put things into persepctive a little, here are some NFL combine times for RBs you might find interesting:

Allen Bradford, USC - 4.58
Knowshon Moreno, UGA - 4.62
Javon Ringer, MSU - 4.60
Beanie Wells, OSU - 4.59

Those are all good college running backs who are much smaller than Shallman who ran in the 4.6 range after college.  If Shallman is running a 4.7 as an upperclassman he'll be very good and if he's running a 4.6 then he'll be a first round draft pick.  So if he's running a 4.8 or so by the time he shows up I'm cool with that.

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September 16th, 2011 at 9:51 PM
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I would love to see him go

I would love to see him go 4.7. Also, dayne and Bettis were freaks so no worries if you don't match up to them.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:05 AM
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so are we going to go after

so are we going to go after another QB besides shane?  

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:24 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if we

Wouldn't surprise me if we did since we're almost certainly not taking one in 2012.

If we don't, 2013 depth would consist of:

Devin Gardner (Sr. (or RJr.))
Russell Bellomy (RSo.)
Shane Morris (Fr.)

Landing a decent QB in the same class as a 5* kid is easier said then done of course.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
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Another great name: E.J.

Another great name: E.J. Levenberry, Jr.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:06 AM
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If we only land E.J.

If we only land E.J. Levenberry Jr. and Reginald Carter, I will consider this class a success.

Thanks for putting this together, wlubd.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:16 AM
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Reginald Carter just tore his

Reginald Carter just tore his ACL a week or two ago, so we'll see how his recovery goes.

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:22 PM
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Man, that sucks. Hope his

Man, that sucks. Hope his recovery goes well.

But, if it doesn't, hopefully we can still bring him on as an assistant or a waterboy or something. Imagine how great it would be to say, "'Ello, Reginald, 'ol chap. Care to give me a swig of the ol' H2O?"

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:32 AM
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Bravo

I had just started building this today myself.  I listened to the Recruiting Round Up this morning and knew it was time.

I guess great minds think alike.  You beat me to it.

+1

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:39 AM
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LOL. Definitely on the same

LOL. Definitely on the same page.

Also while you're here, thank you for drawing up the table in the 2012 list. Made things a lot easier for me doing this since I only had to c&p that post and go from there. Would have been lost trying to do that from scratch.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:46 AM
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We still don't know how many

We still don't know how many WRs we'll take in this class, so if we take 2, we'll be looking at 1-2 in the next class.  We have a couple offers out to receivers and a couple more that we're high on (Treadwell comes to mind).  It's really not good or all that important to throw out many offers before the previous class signs, except to the guys you want no matter what. 

EDIT:  Also keep in mind that the likelihood of a guy committing affects how many other guys at his position get offers.  For example, if the coaches like Shallman, think it's likely that he'll commit, and only plan on taking one or two running backs, then there's not much of a need to offer more guys.  RB is still a big ? in 2012, and once that gets resolved one way or another we'll have a better read on who we should offer for 2013.  If Dunn or Garmon go blue, then we might not need to offer more than just Shallman.

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:35 PM
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I think you should wait until

I think you should wait until NSD to find out whether positions are being neglected or not.  Rodriguez offered lots of linemen, but he didn't pull them in (for whatever reason).  Meanwhile, Hoke offered 7 safeties in the class of 2012 so far, and 2 of them have committed.

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September 16th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
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A couple points to retort

A couple points to retort that:

Our offense has been good and our defense bad the last couple years. Maybe we need more help on defense? Also, more of our attrition has been on defense - Turner, Dorsey, CC, Vinopal, Kellen Jones, LaLota, Talbott, I'm sure there are more. Right now, our D is behind the O in both quantity and quality. I'm glad he's focusing on the D.

Also, both our HC and our top recruiter (Mattison) are defensive guys. It's not a surprise that those guys both prefer and appeal to defensive recruits. Most teams are stronger on one side of the ball than the other. I would expect that to be defense for us under Hoke.

All that said, we have commitments from 5 OL and 2 TE in this class already, plus a much needed FB, most of whom are highly rated a sought after. And be patients, it sounds like this class will have one, maybe two more defensive commits and the rest will be offense. Bringing in 11-12 offensive commits in one class is hardly neglect.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:37 AM
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Elmer

Has there been an update on Elmer lately?  Where are we with him?

 

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:54 AM
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After the night game Michigan

After the night game Michigan is in good standing with Elmer, it seems his top 3 are Michigan, ND and I think Wisconsin.  MSU has slipped down a notch below those 3 and doesn't seem to be recruiting him as hard as the others listed have.  3 soild academic schools with good football history he is choosing from though.

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:31 PM
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Recent indications are that

Recent indications are that U-M is probably #1 on that list.

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
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Nice to hear, I wasn't sure

Nice to hear, I wasn't sure if that was just post game euphoria or a true lead for Michigan.

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September 16th, 2011 at 1:05 PM
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I heard that before the ND

I heard that before the ND game, so take it FWIW.

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:34 PM
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Hmmmm

Was it Elmer's father who said that he compiled some weighted data, crunched the numbers using a formula he devised, and Michigan kept coming out on top? I am pretty sure I read that in one of his earlier interviews...

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September 16th, 2011 at 12:59 PM
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From a few years ago

Jelani Jenkin's family did that. But yes, I read that about Mr. Elmer too.

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September 17th, 2011 at 4:32 AM
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Well I'll give this a shot......

Never posted a link here, but this is a non-paywalled 247 article that says Elmer has a leader.  It also sounds like he may be looking to end this sooner rather than later.  Elmer doesn't state who the leader is, but you can probably figure it out, with all the other info out there.

 

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Article/Elmer-Has-Silent-Leader-40273

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September 18th, 2011 at 8:20 AM
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ND

I saw on twitter that he supposedly committed to ND on Saturday. still waiting on the official announcement from one of our guys.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:58 AM
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LaQuon Treadwell is who

Laquon Treadwell is who you're thinking of and he doesn't have an offer....yet.

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September 16th, 2011 at 1:04 PM
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any word on Tristan Nickelson ?

Has anyone heard any scuttlebutt regarding Tristan Nickelson? I know it's tough to steal a kid like that from Texas, but he sure is an intriguing prospect.

 

Big thanks to wlubd for putting this all together for us. It makes life so much easier . . . .

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September 16th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
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I don't care if he's a 2* --

I don't care if he's a 2* -- Taco must be ours.

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September 16th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
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the Lines takes time to

the Lines takes time to develop phsyically, skill positions you can get guys who can step into the 2 deep as freshmen more easily.  so yeah we might be light at WR in 13 but if we get 1 this year and 2 next year i'm not too worried.  they will only have 5-6 scholies on the roster i'm guessing going forward.

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September 16th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
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^^^

^^^This.

Stud WRs step in more frequently than OL or DL. I'm with you brotha.

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September 16th, 2011 at 4:05 PM
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What about

Jeremy Clark?

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September 16th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
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posted from iPhone

I left Clark on the 2012 list since he is a 2012 kid, just with a promise of a scholarship in 2013. Truthfully it would be most accurate not to include him in either list since he'd initially be a preferred walk-on. Just my 2 cents.

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September 17th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
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Okay

Makes sense. Just wondering where he was. Thanks.

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September 16th, 2011 at 7:08 PM
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Shallman can't be that slow I

Shallman can't be that slow I can't see a 4* RB run that slow really I'm hoping he's not that slow

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September 16th, 2011 at 8:32 PM
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There is a lot of top end

There is a lot of top end talent on this list.  Heard somewhere that Michael Hutchings listed us as his leader a while back.  Could definitley be wrong about that though. 

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September 17th, 2011 at 6:27 AM
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We were his early leader, but

We were his early leader, but I don't think that's the case anymore.

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September 16th, 2011 at 11:22 PM
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Great to have this list

With the jumpstart in verbal commits Hoke & Co. have on 2013, I have definitely been curious about the other offers.  Can't wait for the rest of the intial rankings to come out.  Saw commentaries on ESPN Recruiting today about a potential early signing period.  I think this could be extremely beneficial to U of M recruiting to sign future kids early, and not have to worry about verbal commitments changing at a later point in time.

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