He walked out today. It's a classic!
"You just couldn't let it go, could you Shannon?"
He walked out today. It's a classic!
"You just couldn't let it go, could you Shannon?"
Zook handled that about as calmly as you could, good for him.
Shannon sounded scared as hell to even ask the question. She should've just said: "From a football perspective...WHY AREN'T YOU FIRED YET?!? ....from a football perspective, I mean"
B1G is having a Coaches cleanup party. Let's see who will be the last Coach standing.
I think the reporter was really dumb to ask that question. He just stated very clearly what the press conference was about and then the first question was completely silly.
Reporters don't typically let the subjects dictate what's allowed in an interview/press conference. When you're a coach on the hot seat, you more or less have to deal with these kind of questions, and Zook can try to change that, but the reporter's right to ask the question. She at least tried to frame it as a football question rather than the straight-out job security question.
before they kick him out.
He told them he would walk out if they asked about his job security.
They asked, he walked.
I think Zook's coaching career is near an end.
Is this the entire back story?
EDIT: Never mind, I'm dumb and didn't notice that the second sentence was the link.
...Zook was honest. He said he would leave, and he did. He neither punted nor used a timeout to do it either.
I don't know how you can make fun of him about this when it's very similar to what happened to RichRod here. I almost feel bad for him. If they do go separate ways, who will Illinois even get to replace him?
John Gruden... of course.
You also forgot to mention Tony Dungy
I hear Urban Meyer is looking for houses in Urbana, near Meijer.
The terrible pun in your comment is what makes it awesome. Nicely done.
He's anxious to get win #410; feels he still has a few good years in him.
At Illinois, 410 would take him a few good years.
I'm guessing they'll go the coordinator route. Honestly I think Koenning might be given a chance.
I remember thinking this very thing while watching the game. His defense seemed really well-coached and played impressively for much of the game, and he generally seems to have his act together in a way that's miles above the Zooker. I bet he'd be a really good candidate.
To stay at Illinois!
I look forward to him and Mason covering the Minnesota-Illinois game as commentators. When both teams are 0-7 and lost a directional Dakota school.
I think I read that Mason just took the New Mexico job... so you might have to wati an extra year or two for your dream scenario.
Technically, aren't they all directionional?
"From a football perspective: why do you keep skiing on water? Strictly speaking of football....and skiing on water...as it relates to football."
He communicates the same way I do to my wife. I say "don't do this or I'll do that" and it almost always works that she will do it. Then I have to carry out whatever it was I told her I would do.
Now to figure out how to make it work to attain my actual desires.
feel bad for the guy. But If he get's let go it's justfiable.
He could only say it so bluntly, but someone had to go and be that person.
I remember way back in the day when they taught journalism students that they were not supposed to be part of the story.
Oh, but Shannon just couldn't pass up that opportunity
And putting "from a football perspective" in front of a question, does not change the question:
"From a football perspective.... when will you be fired?"
"From a football perspective, when did you stop wetting the bed?"
"From a football perspective, why do you like to choke kittens?"
Nothing wrong here, he told them what he would do and he did it. He shouldn't have even made a comment. Should have smiled a big Costanza smile and said "Welp that's all for me folks!"
Also, I can't understand how this is like what happened here with RR at all. Zook has been terrible in IL for a number of years (see: more than 3).
Zooker has also taken them to the Rose bowl, and significantly improved the program from what it was before he got there.
Yeah they're going to back to back bowls for the first time since the late 1970s/early 1980s. Zooks leaving the program in better shape than they found it. He at least deserves to retire.
I also thing the Illinois AD is a moron if he goes HC hunting the same year PSU and tOSU are.
Their coach most of that time was John Mackovic. Mackovic was another guy who brought in a lot of talent but didn't know how to use it all that well.
I didn't realize that. He should be able to tell the whole room to fuck off if that is the case. He has always been a pretty good recruiter.
Let's not get carried away here. Zook has recorded two winning seasons in his first six years on the job (he should get #3 this year, but not by much). His 2007 team only made the Rose Bowl because OSU went to the title game and Illinois won a multi-team tiebreaker after that. He followed up that Rose appearance with back-to-back horrendous seasons. Illinois fans have thrown in the towel on him. The only time Illinois can sell out its 60K stadium is when "archrival" Michigan comes to town. And his recruiting has now fallen off a cliff; Illinois ranks dead last in Ace's B10 chart. Recruiting was the one thing he used to be doing well, but he's not delivering there anymore . . . so what's the point of keeping him around?
Zook could have mentioned the "jerk store" for good measure.
Someone start the RR to Ill thread.
It won't happen, but honestly I think RR would have fit in much better at Illinois than here. Illinois consitently brings in decent recruiting classes, and RR wouldn't have been subject to so much scrutiny there. He could have taken players like Juice Williams and Arrelious Benn and turned Illinois into a dangerous team.
But there's no way RR would have left WVU for Illinois. There are very few schools you leave your alma mater for when it is a school similar to what WVU is, and Illinois is not one of them.
honestly I think RR would have fit in much better at Illinois than here. Illinois consitently brings in decent recruiting classes,
Not as classic as when John L. Smith smacked himself at one of his final press conferences but still pretty good.
Good for him. That's the only way you can really handle that.
No, he said this in 2007 when he needed Michigan to beat OSU in order to go to the Rose Bowl. He hates Michigan more than he likes his own team.
I don't know what he said today, but I'm just pointing out that his point of view is totally out of whack and, regardless of situation this year, he would root for Michigan to lose their next two games, even if that meant his team could not win the division.
Illinois actually won the Big Ten in 2001.
At least he didn't start singing.
Laces OUT, SHANNON!!!
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Well, he warned, she didn't listen.
Isn't he "the man"....it was her doing her job in spite of him telling her not to.
He took his ball and went home. Waaaah.
I couldn't have said that better myself.
of the media in a different city...
You have to ask that question... and if he walks out, he walks out...and it looks bad on him.
It's not about "Shannon" trying to make herself part of the story, it's about giving people information that they want to know.
What's the focus of Illinios Fooball right now for fans reading a newspaper or watching a TV??... and you have to include casual fans as well...not just people like us that live and die this stuff.
TV and newspapers are still a business...there are not enough people like us that care about a lone play or player enough to get people's attention. They, a majority, care about the overall general idea of Illinois football and where it and if Ron Zook is the man to lead them.
And the question on a lot of people's minds is if can he lead Illinois to wins.
Clearly he is not confident in himself to do that... and that's obvious by him walking out rather than facing what he needs to face as the head of a major college football program.
Zook clearly knew that's a hot topic... Something a lot of people care about and want to know about... that's why he mentioned it. Those paying for season tickets deserve to know the direction of the program and deserve to know about Zook and his ability to do the job.
He needs to answer the question, even if it's just a "I really only want to talk about the kids who are busting their butts for me."
Walking out only makes him look weaker, like he can't handle the job, or doesn't care enough to do the requirements.
He needs to man up and answer to his losses.
really? wow. answer this... did her question illicit news or create a reality tv moment? it's pathetic really. And i know you people are just pawns or tools of our society but have some self respect.
Zook did... by acting lke a moron and walking out. It's his job to talk with the media and answer those questions.
He could have brushed it off or answered it in a different way. ZOOK WALKED OUT. He created the drama..
Coaches are asked all the time about job status and it's never talked about unless the coach blows up and walks out. FACT
Coaches are paid a lot of money to represent the university and that means stepping up to the plate and taking the heat that comes with all the money and glory.
So Much Lloyd Brady.
kinda like how my 4 year old reacts to getting a timeout after i told him he'd get one if he didn't pick up his legos. it's my fault for following up with what i said i'd do.
Solid back slap to the player taking the podium after him. "A player's coach".
What a difference the last four games have made. After the first 6-0 start in, like 50 years, the Fightin' Illini find themselves at 6-4, fourteen pt underdogs to visiting Wiscy this Saturday.
I like it when coaches have the balls to stand up to the media and in effect give em the bird.
..good coach, hope he sticks around
I LOVE that final look around the room before he walks out the door. Ron Zook walks tall.