December 28th, 2010 at 9:56 PM ^
Well, it's not like RR has recruited the state of Michigan hard.
December 28th, 2010 at 9:56 PM ^
December 28th, 2010 at 10:03 PM ^
This entire situation and program is a complete mess. UM used to be a football factory and now we get excited about a 3 star recruit (I know stars mean little). However, this is the type of athlete that RR and staff recruit and we better get used to it.
I don't know, it might be time to move on. I think it is a no win situation for Michigan. Fire RR and have the worst recruiting class in the history of the program or keep RR and lose out on a few elite players and add more fuel to the fire. Either way and people will bitch.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:43 PM ^
Worst class in history? On the contrary.... the lifelong M fan recruits will decommit from other places, and everyone will want to join the Michigan of old. Why is this so hard to see? If Harbaugh comes.... count on Zettel, DePriest, maybe Lawrence Thomas. Who else were lifelong maize and blue???
December 28th, 2010 at 11:11 PM ^
People should stop and consider that perhaps a coaching change might be good for recruiting for this class. Especially for defense. Who really knows what the effect would be?
After all, isn't it Rodriguez' recruiting and development program to date at least partially to blame for the state of the defense? Assuming that more of him recruiting will improve things is little more than a hope.
Whether or not we'll ever all agree on here that it is time bring in a new coach, the situation points to it happening. Folks should just cool it if there is a change and remember that whoever is brought in is no amateur. He'll have his own list of players and he might be able to turn guys that had previously not wanted to come to Michigan.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:17 PM ^
Are you ever going to change that signature? Or are you just going to keep looking stupid?
December 28th, 2010 at 11:25 PM ^
The perception that we're getting poorer recruting classes under RR than we got under Carr is delusional. It just isn't true. Our classes were always made up of mostly three star guys, just like nearly every other schools class every year. What will people say if RR is retained and Kris Frost and Dee Hart both sign LOI and have received fifth stars from Rivals, because Rivals already have Hart as the highest rated four star and they write half of their articles about Frost?
And you've already stated that it doesn't matter, so I don't understand why you made the post. But, just to emphasize the irrelevance of the star system, I would sure hate having three star prospects Ryan Kerrigan, and JJ Watt, and Mike Hart, and Sam Bradford on my team. They surely aren't good enough.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:31 AM ^
Do you actually believe what you just wrote or are you just in serious denial?
"mostly three stars"? No. From rivals:
2002: 1 5*, 10 4*, 8 3*
2003: 2 5*, 11 4*, 3 3*, 1 2*
2004 : I could go on, but you should get the point: you are delusional.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:11 AM ^
2005: 1 5*, 10 4*, 11 3*, 1 2*
2006: 2 5*, 9 4*, 7 3*, 1 2*
2007: 2 5*, 5 4*, 12 3*, 1 2*
2008: 17 4*, 6 3*, 1 2*
2009: 1 5*, 13 4*, 6 3*, 2 2*,
2010: 6 4*, 20 3*, 1 2*
2011:4 4*, 9 3*, 1 2* (so far)
Lloyd to RichRod doesn't look much different to me.
Just to throw more fuel on the fire, Stanford:
2005: 5 4*, 5 3*, 7 2*
2006: 10 3*, 7 2*
2007: 1 4*, 10 3*, 8 2*
2008: 2 4*, 8 3*, 7 2*
2009: 8 4*, 12 3*, 2 2*
2010: 5 4*, 15 3*, 2 2*
2011: 8 4*, 12 3*, 2 2*
December 28th, 2010 at 10:28 PM ^
like coal in my Christmas stocking. Damn...
December 28th, 2010 at 10:33 PM ^
December 28th, 2010 at 10:35 PM ^
he's not in our division i guess.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:47 PM ^
When Brady Hoke is named the new coach AZ will decommit to us from PSU in a heartbeat.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:10 PM ^
I hope not! Though, SF will be making a hard pitch for JH, he's their number 1 target! But hopefully DB will keep RR if JH is headed off to SF!
December 28th, 2010 at 10:48 PM ^
On why he chose PSU over the other schools: “I feel like they could push me to the next level the best.”- Anthony Zettel
Anyone else troubled by this comment?
December 28th, 2010 at 11:15 PM ^
Yes, it's troubling.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:44 PM ^
I think it's very telling.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:52 PM ^
Isn't that the same thing TP said about going to tOSU
December 29th, 2010 at 12:05 AM ^
I heard that he just earned his blue star on eBay! Good for him!
December 28th, 2010 at 11:52 PM ^
I'm troubled that we're losing mojo in-state. We've never landed ALL of the best in-state guys and sexy climes are always going to exert a strong pull on Midwestern players with options. But losing a guy like that to another team in the conference, yeah, not a positive development.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:26 AM ^
Brandon Graham and Lamar Woodley would like a word, AZ.
Guys like Tamba Hali, Maurice Evans and Aaron Maybin aren't exactly tearing it up.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:21 AM ^
This is disturbing. We have been hearing for quite some time that the PSU coaching staff is in disarray and that there is a huge power vacuum. The team basically floundered this year until by a stroke of luck they decided to start McGroin, and even then it still was not beautiful. To top it off, the day before he commits there is a rumor circulating (for the umpteenth time) that JoePa will need to retire at the end of this season for health reasons. Disturbing indeed, although I too am happy he did not choose Sparty. My dipshit co-worker Sparty fans who don't follow recruiting might nonetheless have seen a Freep blurb that lifelong Blue fan Zettel went green, and made yet another comment about their inevitable ascendancy.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^
At least it's not Michigan Ski-Mask university or "[(THE)] Ohio Stattoo University.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ^
Here's to hoping that Anthony Zettel has "buyer's remorse" and goes Maize and Blue before signing day...
December 28th, 2010 at 11:07 PM ^
Future Michigan Men who are clearly committed to wearing the winged helmet:
B. Beyer, G. Brown, D. Crawford, J. Fisher, D. Hart, J. Hayes, D. Hollowell, K. Jones, J. Miller, T. Posado, C. Rock.
And a special shout out to those who committed in recent weeks despite this other nonsense: B. Countess, D. Morgan, M. Goudis.
Go Blue.
(Note to the haters: yeah, I know some are looking around, but they're still committed, so they get the love.)
December 28th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ^
At least we have Chris Rock
December 28th, 2010 at 11:18 PM ^
Sigh. This doesn't look good for Rodriguez at all.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:47 PM ^
"They come and they go Hobbes, they come and they go."
December 28th, 2010 at 11:31 PM ^
This thing ain't done yet. RR stays, he comes home.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
SNAKE OIL!
December 28th, 2010 at 11:35 PM ^
Not sure if this warrants a separate thread - (to err on the side of caution I'll ask here)
I saw his commitment to Texas as a Soft Verbal - do we have any chance with him? Could use a solid OL like him.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:14 AM ^
He's looking at Auburn
December 29th, 2010 at 7:45 PM ^
This kid would be awesome for our OL in 2 years.
Onward anyways.
Thanks Bach
December 29th, 2010 at 7:45 PM ^
This kid would be awesome for our OL in 2 years.
Onward anyways.
Thanks Bach
December 28th, 2010 at 11:39 PM ^
I agree. Nothing is official until February. RR snaked Dorsey at the last minute last yr (yes i know it didnt work out but not the point) so theres no reason why it cant happen with AZ. Might be a long shot, but if RR is back in '11 it is very possible.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:23 AM ^
Hope he has a great career.
Wish he would have chosen Michigan though.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:24 AM ^
He has a stuffed beaver phobia
December 29th, 2010 at 3:45 AM ^
If Silverlocks leaves, we land AZ??
Not a bad deal IMO
December 29th, 2010 at 8:07 AM ^
Not going to lie but this sucks. Oh well time to move on to the next recruit.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:26 AM ^
He obviously does not want his parents to see him play football. No easy way to get from West Branch to Happy Valley.
I think I could get to Europe faster.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:26 AM ^
Can future Big Ten Calss Ranking include a breakdown of Stanford recruits? Probably will be mute since this is a so called dead period and our coaches fate will likely be determined before anymore updates. It just makes me sick to read these posts and sense things slipping away while the AD sits up in his office 'evaluating.' I mean sheesh, if it's Harbaugh, make it official.
I'm a glass half full kinda guy. I hate that the consensus is pretty much Coach Rod out, but Our D Line needs seeerious depth. Not gonna get excited about anymore youth in the secondary than there already is. But maybe seeing some top notch commits in the front 7 will help me enjoy the bowl game and ignore the sour feeling that the spread will likely be gone next season even though the NC game has featured at least one spread team in each of the last 6 year (both this year) and our's is just starting to look good. Gosh the more I write, the more I hate Dave Brandon!
December 29th, 2010 at 11:15 AM ^
While there have been a number of spread offenses in the BCS title game lately, I think a bigger common denominator is that almost all of the teams in the BCS title games have very good defenses (Auburn possibly being an exception this year).
December 29th, 2010 at 9:07 AM ^
"NUTS!"
December 29th, 2010 at 9:11 AM ^
how AZ would be used at UM vs PSU? There was a comment on an earlier thread referring to an alleged statement by one of Zettel's HS coaches that PSU would be better suited to AZ's talents on defense, but there was no explanation in detail. In addition, Zettel apparently made a statement during or after his announcement that he thought that PSU coaches would push him more effectively to the next level.
Does all of this have to do with our defensive scheme and how it uses DL (essentially what the coach is alleged to have said), or is Zettel's comment about pushing him to the next level simply a reflection that he doesn't like our current defensive coaches on a personal level?
If yes, does Zettel's decision mean that he thinks RR is coming back? As others have pointed out, if his problem was solely with RR and his staff, why wouldn't he have waited just four more days?
Maybe this all came down to Zettel just liking everything about PSU—the campus, the location, the academics, the stadium, etc. etc.—better than Michigan. It does happen.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:15 AM ^
For Michigan to lose an in-state 4 star talent who has been a big UM fan and has visited the team many times is just a fail.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:18 PM ^
We should have had the inside track for this guy, but we will probably continue to lose more than our customary share of blue chips until we win consistently again. There is no quick fix.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:07 PM ^
Committed to Purdue until signing day, then went blue.
All we need is a little more...
SNAKE OIL!!
December 31st, 2010 at 8:19 PM ^
17 or 18 year olds change minds so frequently. But cant understand the reasoning behind this. Way to take full advantage of witnessing numerous practices, games, Big Chill. Grow up a UM fan only to go to school to PSU. Boourns but it is what it is. Looking forward to seeing Zettel in psu colours and if his potential can be reached there.