even though you felt it coming, it still hurts....
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
even though you felt it coming, it still hurts....
Just got through that whole show about a month ago. Great reference.
it's all in the game
What show would that be? Come on, fill us in.
"Sheeeeeeeeeiiittt" was made famous by the character Clay Davis.
Best show ever on TV. Buy the DVDs and you won't regret it.
His username is that of Herc's confidential informant. I think he knows what show it is
We couldn't afford as much as auburn.
Get off it. He's an 18 year old kid, no reason to get all butthurt because he didn't pick UM. Best of luck to him.
Agreed. Getting him would have been great but if he wanted to go somewhere else then so be it. There's other QBs out there. This isn't the end of the world. I'll still feel like shit the rest of the day...
will ease this feeling of shit.
Shouldn't this read "There are" or extremely informally, "There're"?
Using "is" represents improper subject-verb agreement because the subject is plural.
There are sober kids. (plural subject)
There is a sober kid. (singular subject)
The verb's form is dependent upon whether the subject is singular or plural.
Relax, he's 18, not 8. I think the joke is less about Pike than it is about Auburn. He'll be ok.
I'm just going to start negging every post I see that uses the term 'butthurt.'
Meta-negged for use of the word "butthurt."
And yes, I did neg my previous comment, as well as your reply, for use of the term "butthurt." And will be negging this comment as well. For consistency sake.
Fair enough good sir. This is not an issue that will cause me to get all......never mind.
To be clear, if I am to say "my butt hurt" in a future post, will I be automatically negged? Inquiring minds want to know . . . Thanks in advance.
Relax. The joke is on Auburn, not Pike. Mayyyybe you get off it.
EDIT: Butthurt....testing your skills Foote Fetish
Amare Stoudamire was supposed to have a great game last night, but hurt himself during pre-game warmups...
Not sure I'd characterize it that way... We just aren't willing to pay.
Eh it just bugs me when people have the kneejerk reaction of "Oh, they didn't commit to UM? They have been paid!". It's along the same lines of thinking of "well we didn't need him anyways!"
Yes, I agree it sucks we didn't get him, but we're going to lose out on some commits, that doesn't mean there's some kind of conspiracy going on.
Have you watched any news surrounding Cam Newton and Auburn the past 6 months?
Yes, and given the scrutiny, they would be beyond ignorant to attempt to pay a player, especially another highly touted QB prospect with the NCAA's attention.
very soon there is an article on rivals about his decision
I hope but it sounds like ND is in the drivers seat for him.
What I've been hearing as well. If ND wants him, he's there for the taking. ND might want Kiel more then Mauk though, in which case we're probably Mauk's leader.
Becomes a question then of which do you want more out of those two? Or do you get a lower-rated QB and develop him while going for Morris next year?
So what your saying is we will be getting Notre Dame's leftovers?
Hopefully we get back to the days of being able to pick and choose which guys we would rather have.
Not what I'm saying necessarily. Kiel is an Indiana kid, while Mauk is the brother of Ben Mauk who played for BK at Cincinnati. ND was/is probably always going to be ahead of us for both of them. The other factor is that Pike was the top target on our board and up until his Auburn visit, we appeared to be his leader. We missed, and that sucks so we have to take talent where we can get it. If that means cleaning up ND's scraps then so be it.
Although from a cynical point of view you could argue that, I wouldn't consider either of those guys as 'leftovers'.
They're both top-10 QBs and I'd be glad to have either. Probably prefer Kiel IMO but Mauk can ball, too.
who is saying that Michigan doesn't rate Mauk better than Kiel?? Your post is almost saying you think ND evaluates better? If Michigan wanted Kiel, we would be talking about him now. Mauk is our next guy after pike...
I have no idea who the coaching staff rates higher and don't claim to have such knowledge. The impression I've gotten from recruiting sites is that Kiel is better. Personally I think that's also the case.
But if the coaches want to go after Mauk now the fine. They're the coaching staff, I trust their judgment far more then my own when it comes to this.
But apparently ND is the frontrunner for Kiel, as well, so I'm not sure Mauk goes there.
Do they have room for 2 QBs? Where is Irish when we actually need him.
They won't take 2 QBs, especially ones as highly rated as Mauk and Kiel. That said, we're in a much better position for Mauk then we are for Kiel (I've heard OU is Kiel's leader). If they take Kiel, we should be in driver's seat for Mauk. If they take Mauk, then we probably miss on all the big QB recruits we go after.
no, no way we take 2, ND wants Kiel, but Mauk is much more likely.
Kiel is supposed to be 50-50 ND and OU, it doesn't appear the staff will let Mauk commit until Kiel's intentions are sure. Mauk will likely be committing in the next few weeks so draw what conclusion you can.
7th all time leading passer in ND history, it's not surprising if ND leads for him.
Do the Kiel's have an issue with giving their male children normal names? Blair? Gunner (that's probably a nickname, though, right)?
Have you got a link available?
Not a HUGE loss since we have Gardner as the long term future, but Zeke will regret Auburn when they get the sledgehammer from the NCAA.
He could stil change his mind, signing day is very very far away and Auburn can potentially get put on sanctions by then.
Three reasons that Pike's choice doesn't make much sense:
says that Auburn is gonna get sanctioned (prison-raped) by the powers that be.
pretty damn clear that Auburn is a "players' team" that pays, as opposed to an actual "school" team that expects one to stay 4 years and go to classes.
Lets go Hoke!
If Zeke feels more comfortable at Auburn then so be it. I'm confident in the recruiting abilities of Hoke and Co. so far.
I'm right there with you. One recruit isn't going to make or break this recruiting class. I'm confident that Hoke and Co. are working their tails off to get us the best recruits possible. BTW, I spoke to DG on Monday in class about Pike and he said he hoped Pike would commit here.
from bowl games
Hope you like being banned from bowl games
I wonder what happened on his Auburn visit that made him decide so quickly?
Probably a fist full of 1000 dollar bills...
maybe he got one of those "special" dorm tours from an Auburn cheerleader
does this mean no mega class 2012? :(
still have very high hopes for a great class though
on to the next one
I'd love Maty Mauk, if he goes to Notre Dame I'm gonna be even more pissed than Pike going to Auburn since we'll have to play against him. Not to mention he threw 69 touchdowns last year.
then we can just steal Gunner Kiel i wonder what he would think of Notre Dame accepting a top QB before him
I haven't heard anything regrading Kiel's interest in Michigan other than he has an offer. I hope I just missed something because he would be a nice pickup.
People need to stop emphasizing Mauk's stats. We all know they're ridiculously inflated, it's a product of the system they run.
Mauk would be fine although my concern with him is that we're essentially getting Tate Forcier 2.0. And look how that worked out. Not going to say I don't want him, he's a good player, but I'd be happier with Gunner Kiel or Shane Morris in 2013 as opposed to Mauk.
I want Gunner Kiel just so I can keep making references to Gunner Stahl..
"Lets go shake their haaaands"
--"You lost it for me Gunner"
--"You lost it for yourself"
I mean this in the nicest way possible....FUCK Auburn! :) all better now.
Good luck to him then
Is it official? I can't find it anywhere besides an auburn guy saying so...
Twitter dude. It's all over it. And the Auburn guy saying it is their Rivals writer who was at the announcement. Pretty sure he isn't lying...
From TomVH's twitter: QB Zeke Pike to Auburn. I believe that Michigan was probably his leader before this last trip to Auburn, which obviously changed things.
He seemed like an enthusiastic kid. But I'm not that worried. QB is hardly a position of need. Even if we don't get someone else, it just means an extra scholarship for some other great player who wants to come here that we didn't think we'd have room for. Good luck to him at Auburn. And NEXT!
never mind tom just tweeted it....sucks
I knew it was coming but i didn't want to believe it.
I still have this vague and unexplainable sense that tomorrow will still happen.!.
Looks like we're gonna be putting our eggs in the Shane Morris basket. Bet he's actually pretty happy with this. Would have been awsome to get Pike, but if there's one position that we can miss on an elite prospect this year, it's QB. Not so much next year. After we start winning, it will be easier to convince them to come.
Where is that guy who told me to eat ass
I didn't but in his absentia how about "Eat Ass"? There, now you are done looking.
I really think its a year to soon to really land a elite. get a good 4* and then go hard next year.
Its never to soon to land elite prospects.
Cam left some spare change at the dorm room he will be staying at. Good luck Zeke. Hope your career with the tigers works out. Yeah, right. !
I don't think Cam ever complained about anything.
Ehh Fuck Auburn and anyone who plays for them, hell anyone who plays for any other team other than Michigan. If youre not with us, you're against us.
Not getting him isn't that big of a deal, however, if he persuades this mega class he spoke of, then it sucks.
is going to get a Super-MEGA-Class and challenge the Klingons for interstellar domination.
Who ever negged you is a moron, that was a great quote from a great movie. Most certainly brightened my day after this dong punch.
I'm hearing 12 million over 4 years from my sources around Auburn.
DR is a junior ... DG will have a few more years. We will still will add a solid QB this year. Then we close the S. Morris deal next year. He will take the helm in a few years. NO worries.
the presence of Denard and Devin might be exactly the problem and that might affect the recruiting of other "elite" quarterbacks. If you have the ego that most of these kids have, telling them they're going to sit for a year is a big deal. At Michigan there's a pretty good chance right now, that any quarterback who commits now can look at three years of sitting unless Devin goes to the NFL after the 2013 season.
I don't buy in to the depth issue in this case. Everywhere you go, a QB is going to have to compete for a spot. And it isn't like Auburn doesn't have Qbs either. They apparently sucked in spring practice but they're bringing in Kiehl Frazier (a consensus top 100 guy who we also offered). He's closer in classes to Pike then DG is. Just saying that the PT argument doesn't really hold up IMO. If you're a QB and you want to go to a top school, you'll have to compete for playing time, no matter what the situation is.
an 18 year old kid going to a school that consistently brings in top qbs, who knows he might switch down the road.
Umm I guess he forgot to look at tom Brady then
It sucks but that's recruiting for you. Good luck to Pike, no matter what happens to Auburn. Bring on the next elite QB, whether it be Kiel or Mauk or whoever. It's a long time until next February and this isn't the first recruit that we may lose out on (I say it this way because he could end up changing his mind).
I consider choosing Auburn a character flaw.
I find it baffling that a kid can have Michigan and Auburn as his final two. They're drastically different schools and it just seems like if you settle on Auburn you may not have been a great fit at Michigan anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of recruits about whom that's not true, but that's my gut reaction. Hopefully we'll get a top guy who fully appreciates what UM has to offer and wouldn't dream of going to the dirtiest of dirty SEC schools.
This decision does cause me to look at the chucking the ball at 7on7 official a little more critically now....could it be a character issue? At any rate, why do we need to wish a kid well who doesn't want to play for Michigan? I'd rather just be indifferent about them.
I hate Auburn first Kris Frost, now Zeke. And Rivals has an article about Jordan Diamond saying how much he likes Auburn now too. In the long run our QB situation looks good for the next 4 years. I'm more bummed out on some of the guys he could of brought to Michigan with him
I posted a tweet about Pike and how Auburn MIGHT be a little dirty and like 7 AU fans RT'd me and the Aubrun blog. Score. They didnt like my comment.
I wont bash the kid cause I dont know him but did anyone else find it weird he announced on 4-20?
Kid wanted to commit. Just like it's not significant that today is Hitler's birthday... or IS IT???
I hate to point out the obvious here being new and all but everything i have read says that both Mauk and Kiel are early ND leans. I realize the thought process might be that if one commits to ND before the other then whoevers left goes to UM or somewhere else. Also Mauk looks like he might fit at Mizzou due to him being in that 5 wide set in HS. So, if thats the case why worry about QB this year. Why not go and get a bunch of really good offensive lineman for DR/DG to stand behind the next couple of years and worry about the QB next year i.e. Shane Morris. Also, a couple of big DTs wouldnt hurt either...never does GO BLUE!
Edit: Mauk for those who dont know also has Mizzou as one of the schools he is considering, just sayin.
Because you need depth. You should take a QB every year, kids transfer, injuries, etc...
I don't really care. If Devin gets his medical redshirt, then they'd only be one year appart. Rather get a solid guy this year for depth and the kid from Warren next year.
Worst Case: Pike stays with Auburn and I wish the kid the best of luck.
Best Case: Auburn gets hammered for violations as NCAA digs up major dirt. Pike wises up and decides to go back to his original favorite. I can dream, can't I?
I would completely understand if he went somewhere other then the home of scam newton! They paid a heavy price just for one qb, imagine how much they paid for a qb and co.
Fuck Auburn and roll damn tide is all have to say about that.
afore all is said and done.
i'm not saying, i'm just sayin.
afore all is said and done.
i'm not saying, i'm just sayin.
Appleby this year and SHAAAAANE, SHAAAAAANE next year?
he never signs his LOI for UA.
The sh!t will hit the fan before national signing day.
Tough to understand the logic behind this kid's choice. With Auburn getting Frazier, a 5 star system-fitting QB last year, when does this kid think he's gonna play? Not to mention the decent chance that sanctions are coming their way. Yeah we have Devin but he's no sure thing especially with the redshirt situation. The timeline is also puzzling. What happened to end of summer? Was Auburn really that amazing?? Ah the power of green...
Surely this cannot be true because some dumpling said Pike to Michigan yesterday!!!
The NCAA smartens up and punishes Auburn, he'll decommitt and come to us.
to auburn (per his comment), I will have to start questioning God's advice between this and telling the Vest to stay quiet. Maybe there is some static on the line.....
People saying "God told me." are basically trying to explain decisions made with their heart rather than their head. Zeke wanted to go to Auburn, I wish him the best, but "God told me." irritates me to no end. Just fess up and say you made an emotional decision.
Personally, I wasn't too big on Zeke. Just not a warm fuzzy over him. Apparently the coaches liked him, but I watched the film close, and I thought Appleby looked much better.
Good luck to him, but I think we'll do better.
was a quote from the Auburn WR coach immediately after Pike committed. Pike offered this quote to illustrate the firmness of his commitment to Auburn. Sounds disturbingly similar to Tom Cruise's situation in "The Firm."
"A young quarterback joins a prestigous college football program only to discover that it has a sinister dark side."
Is Auburn WR coach Trooper Taylor? Doesn't he have some issues with the NCAA? Good luck Zeke.
If the hammer falls before February there's gonna be more than one blue chip player looking for a place to play.
I'm an ESPN Insider, so a post in rumors regarding Pike's commitment caught my eye. Direct quote:
"Frazier was handpicked by offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn, who has known the Springdale, Ark., product since he was in the eighth grade. (Frazier ran Malzahn's offense in high school.) He's a dual-threat talent who seems to be the perfect fit for Malzahn's system."
Okay, if I'm Pike, just reading those words should give me second thoughts about my commitment (granted, this wasn't published until after he committed). I'd be very concerned about Frazier's seemingly preferred status. I know Pike thinks he can compete, but give Frazier a year at redshirt in a system he already knows perfectly, and there might not be much room for competition. Hopefully he'll rethink his decision at some point this year (NCAA sanctions would be great anytime now).
Actual link here for those who can see it: http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/rumors/_/date/20110420#7332
So he should have come to um to sit behind redshirt freshman qb Gardner? Can't be both.
At least at UM he knows that they're trying to switch to a pro-style offense and, should he prove himself more capable of running one than Gardner (which is possible if we're talking exclusively pro-style) he'd have a shot at starting. I honestly think his odds would be better here, but I'm also biased.
At least Michigan will avoid 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for balls zipping at the ref.
See ya, Pike.
Contract Details have been released. The contract is 3 years at 250k a year with an option for a fourth year.
Well, I completed the dreaded talk with my 5 year old son Zeke and told him Zeke Pike is not going to Michigan. He told me it will be OK and that I was actually more upset than him.
I don't know how much of a loss this is for us...just surprised he's going there with everything I've heard about Frazier. They must have one hell of a sales pitch at Auburn...or something.
I wish the kid luck. I really wanted him but now that he has chosen Auburn my interest in Pike has peaked.
Its not crucial that this class have a quaterback. hopefully after this season we will have more momentum recruiting if we perform well. load up on D line and oline. Mauk looks like a system qb or his comp was poor. hes never pressured in the vids i see. meh. Zeke is too bad you think you can run in college cuz that spread at Auburn is not going to work out that well for ya. Gunner, forget about that one. aint happening. if we cant get the big dawgs dont bother. unless hes the ultimate sleeper. Definetly dont take a QB just to take a QB. GO BLUE
Given that there are only two scholarship Qb's and one frosh incoming not taking a QB this year would be Alabama dumb.