Would like to see the general thought on the entire starting lineup from fellow MGoBloggers.
Would like to see the general thought on the entire starting lineup from fellow MGoBloggers.
Well, apparently, Braden won't be starting at guard. So my only changes would be Bryant at G, and I still think Wilson starts at S.
Did I miss something? Braden won't be starting at guard?
EDIT: I just read Heiko's notes in the thread below this one. Wow, strange.
Didn't we see Glasgow going with the 1's at guard in the scrimmage?
Reportedly because Bryant sat out of the scrimmage.
Bryant at guard should be nice for the run game. I remember people were saying Bryant was probably our best run blocker last year.
Gallon (and Dileo, to a lesser extent) both have the experience, although I think we all collectively agree that Gallon seemed to regress a bit last year with PR decision making. I wouldn't mind seeing Norfleet lock down both return jobs, though.
I agree. Norfleet is the real speedster on this team right now, and he looked awful close to taking a few to the house this past year.
He seems to have issues on islands in regards to keeping up with fast receivers. He is a good football player and backing him up and allowing him to play with his back to the endzone with make him an even better player!
I think ultimately Justice Hayes will land at Slot Receiver, and please for the love of God let this offensive line be better.
The LG and C positions are starting to worry me with Braden not practicing at guard and Miller and Graham Glasgow STILL are fighting for the starting spot. Let's just hope this is because both are doing so well it is a stalemate....
Hayes will be a RS Soph and likely have a role this season in the backfield. IMO, he's also probably the #3 RB coming into the season (behind Fitz and Green). UM needs to bodies much more at RB than they do at WR (everyone keeps bringin gup Slot, but Slot isn't a necessary position outside maybe a couple guys in this offense).
Hayes will be fine at RB and stay there.
Yea I don't understand all the slot talk either. We have Dileo, the recently moved Norfleet and Gallon who can lineup in the slot when we want to go big. Not a real need in the slot receiver spot.
For slot has to be because of speed/agility and open space. Seems as if the staff wants Fitz and Green to garner the workload.
Hayes is probably the best bet as a true 3rd down back (though I think FItz is underrated in this regard). You don't move your third string RB to WR to be a...3rd string WR. They've worked on bulking Hayes up, and in his third year he is simply a better fit at RB right now. Hayes likely won't take a huge workload at either position, but he's much more valuable in the backfield right now than he would be at WR or especailly if he only could play the slot.
Michigan right now, has Dileo that could take snaps in the slot as an underneath guy. Norfleet if they want to just get the ball in the hands of a playmaker. Chesson if they want a Breaston type slot. Gallon if they want an all around guy. Or even Darboh, Jackson, or Reynolds if they want a bigger Slot type that can use his body as a possession guy (think Avant) or they could split out Funchess. Hayes is fine at RB, and of much more use because he provides something that the rest of the unit isn't as accomplished in.
Man, reading your much larger breakdown than mine has me really excited about the versatility and weapons we have on offense. This offense is going to be dangerous if Devin is anything close to what we expect him to be.
If the O-line can run block and keep Devin clean.
They can't be worse than last year. /knocks on wood
But if they're basically static, that's not a good sign for what we can get out of Devin. His potential is through the roof, it would be a shame if he couldn't really let loose because of the pieces around him. I think by mid season the line should be in decent shape, with the huge caviat at center. If Bryant and Lewan stay healthy, and Kalis can pull... look out.
/furiously knocking wood
Not sure how good his blocking is, but he's shown good ability to slip out of the backfield for a dumpoff pass. I think he's going to get his touches this year, maybe lock down the Vincent Smith role if his blocking is reliable.
I think that's why they like him as a slot guy at some point. For me, the 3rd down back will be Fitz I think..
The few carries Hayes got last year were zone stretch plays. He's one of the few back that can effectively threaten the edge without first having the threaten between the tackles.
I agree that too many people are forgetting about his potential as a running back. I don't think he's feature-back material, but if you remove him (and Norfleet, who's already switched) from the equation in the backfield, you're left with a bunch of bowling ball types at running back (Rawls, Green, Smith, etc.). That doesn't leave much play calling flexibility if you want to call screens, draws, wheel routes, etc.
I think Glasgow is going to play. It's a indirect competition between Braden and Miller as worst of the OL contenders. Glasgow will plug in for that guy. My guess is Glasgow is the starting center and Braden is left in for upside potential, hoping he comes into better form with more experience.
It's hard to tell because of the close angles but Miller looked to be standing around a lot at the end of plays and his body language looked like he was frustrated.
I also think Jarrod WIlson is still the starter at the safety spot opposite Thomas Gordon.
I'm not totally sold on Heitzman or Cam Gordon either, but those guys will rotate so much it doesn't matter too much who the nominal starter is.
EDIT: Apparently Braden isn't going to be a guard according to Heiko. I still think what I said stands though, Glasgow will start at either LG or C, depending on where he's needed most.
Glasgow either starts at center or is a Bryant's back up at LG. Bryant has locked down that sport according to Heiko
Is millers main weakness? I just wonder if he can play guard? Does he struggle making the adjustments or calls a s center? Or is it just "not getting the job done" in any aspect?
Assignments are a problem sometimes (or were in the spring), but the biggest weakness I've read about him is...well...weakness. At 6'4" he's only 290 lbs.
Yeah. Molk was around 300 and only 6'. Miller needs to bulk up more.
More Molk. Molk does an o line good.
Miller at Guard? Come on Leon Hall, maybe you should stick to the DB world! Hmmkay!?!
Eamus...you know this staff surprised us last year on the line....
The one question would be Funchess at TE. I love the kid ... just wondering how he's doing with his blocking relative to some of the other TE's, particularly Khalid Hill or Jake Butt?
Honest question ... I just don't know ... I haven't seen Funchess' name come up much this fall.
Think that has to do with him being a relatively known commodity. I'm guessing They run some sets with Funchess in a H-back adn Butt or Williams in tight.
I can't wait to see this interior line take on Louis Nix! Especially given that Al Borges is so good at game planning around mismatches!
Have to stay off tackle...run screens, draws, etc. Hopefully has a better plan than 2nd half of Ohio. Stay outside!
If Avery is moved to safety it will almost certainly be as a FS. Avery won't be someone the coaching staff is going to want to bring down in the box against the run, he'll almost certainly be the back tasked with playing deep.
G: Mental toughness
DT: Work ethic
S: Big play ability
Oh so we are doing the BYU jersey thing now too?
Imagine Shane, Bellomy and Cleary wearing Gardner jerseys
I'll take the over...
I wouldn't fret too much over the O-Line situation... The first couple games should be tough chemistry-wise, but there is some serious raw talent in Bryant and Kalis... Should be interesting to see how Miller progresses at the center. Don't forget about the senior leadership in Schofield and Lewan either... Should be a solid line by the end of the season.
As for the rest of the team, defense is going to be really good, passing game will be solid all season with Gardner's arm and his numerous weapons around him, and the run game should progress with the o-line.
Instead of arguing about the line, let's just realize this is the best lineup Michigan has trotted out since the 2008 Citrus Bowl. That's worth a lot in my book. It remains to be seen if this team can match or beat the results from 2011, but I'm confident that no game this season is unwinnable and we should be solid favorites in 10 games. The defense is going to be really good and the offense has a good shot to be a top 30 unit as well. Life is pretty good for August 18th.
Braden will win out and Kenny Allen will be the punter.
Is Pipkins projected to start, or just expected to be a solid contributor?
Solid contributor, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was starting by the end of the year.
Mattison rotates his D-Linemen so much that even if Pipkins isn't starting, we'll still be seeing a whole lot of him.
We need to see how this week of practice unfolds. Remember last year? Barnum was the C, Devin was either the #1 or #6 WR depending on who you asked, Nathan Brink was a starter, and Rawls was pushing Fitz. THIS is the week of practice where things sort themselves out and even then it can bleed into the season. Let's wait until we hear about what happened at the scrimmage and practice on Monday and Tuesday and I think we'll all have a much better idea.
I've got Spike at PG(Walton will push him hard, but he's got to learn the offense and devensive scheme)
Nik at SG(See notes above, insert Z. Irvin)
This is where it gets interesting. I'd like to put GR3 at SF to maximize his draftable skills(I dont think he's a PF in the NBA). But Caris is like 6-7 or 6-8 now. He's kind of a natural SF but he might be able to check a PF in a pinch as well. Having GR3 at PF really gives us a quickness advantage and spreads the floor though.
From a rebounding perspective, it would really be great if McGary's jumper carried over from the tournament. Then we could afford, spacing-wise, to put another big with McGary(Morgan or Horford). Obviously it's not going to matter what we do against UMass Lowell, but I look forward to seeing how that developes.
I have to wonder if Wormley and/or Henry aren't making strong cases at DT, which for some reason to me sounds more reasonable than Clark-Q-Black-Heitzman. I am beginning to wonder if we will see Clark-Q-Henry-Black with Heitzman, Pipkins, Wormley, and Charlton subbing in, especially in the OOC games.
As for the OL, I think the interior will be Bryant-Miller-Kalis. It looked like Miller was playing all the center snaps from he scrimmage. Glasgow will probably be first off the bench at guard UNLESS Braden makes a push at RT and Schofield is able to move over. Being that the season is 2 weeks away, I don't see that happening and I think Braden is a reserve guard working toward being a starting tackle next year.
but have been specifically hoping for it. I would much rather see Black at SDE that DT, he just isn't nig enough and he has the quickness that he could cause problems at SDE IMHE. Again, I don't really expect that to happen as all reports are he is staying at DT, but I have been hoping for it. Then again, I know very little about the intricacies of football and will obviously trust the coaches to make the right decision.
Norfleet at starting running back. Norfleet will lead the early Heisman polls after running for 250 yards and 4 TDs against CMU. Gardner does not attempt a pass the whole game.