It's not going to happen, but I would like Douglass to be relegated to the bench and turned into a sub at either guard position.
Your projected michigan basketball 2011-2012 lineup
Douglas is our best defender - something that often goes unnoticed.
True, but he's a big liability athletically and on the offensive end. Defensive prowess often improves with age, so if a guy like Hardaway can turn into a solid defender, then that would be swell.
How's that? They asked the Duke PG on Mike & Mike this morning how come Michigan was so hard to defend and he said because they play basically 4 guards. Sure, size hurt them in some respects but it also forced teams to play small against them.
The main thing that held them back was lack of experience. As Hardaway and Morgan grew more comfortable and Smotrycz starting playing the 5, they improved. Whatever lineup JB settles on is fine by me but I don't think that necessarily means a conventional lineup.
There's also a reason why most of the past NCAA tourney champs have size on their starting roster and not mostly guards.
...and there's a reason that Villanova is "pretty good" every year, but not "really good."
Its the fact that the power forward played by Novak can shoot threes. If Smotryz can pick up his defense enough to play the 4 and Horford can be a reliable backup for Morgan, Novak then still plays some 4 but also moves over to take some of the guard and small forward minutes.
Pretty hard to be a liability athletically and be the best defender at the guard spot. Kind of a contradiction.
Stu averaged 7 ppg and shot 36% from 3 last year. Not exactly setting the world on fire, but certainly not a "huge offensive liability" either. Defenses have to account for him when he's on the floor.
If defenses have to account for Douglass they do a pretty good job of it because most games you barely notice he is on the floor, except for his turnovers. Also, he might be one of the best defenders this past year on a team full of freshman, but that should change next year. I see him as a bit role player next year with Burke helping out with the ballhandling and subbing for Morris.
I would bet you any amount of money in the world that, whether you like it or not, he'll be more than just a "bit role player" next year.
Belien has said Stu's one of the best athletes on the team. 6'2' and throwing down 2 handed dunks is not what poor athletes do. Stu also best perimeter defender on team, much of which comes from being able to move his feet well.
Another example of Stu's athleticism; I think it was the Duke game but maybe Tennessee, where Stu out ran a couple of guards for a loose ball, took a couple dribbles with guards unsuccesfully chasing him and layed in a contested layup. Helluva athletic play. Go Stu!
I'm not sure Douglass is a safe bet to start next season. He came off the bench for the first 24 games of this season. It was only when Smotrycz hit the freshman wall (and hard at that) that Stu entered the lineup. If Smotyrcz can put on some muscle and develop his game over the summer, he could reclaim his old job. Beilein would ideally like someone his size at the 4. The other variable is whether Morris and Hardaway can improve enough defensively to check the opponent's top guard.
It might happen sooner than you think. I wouldn't be surprised at all if JB decided to go with a lineup similar to the one we saw at the beginning of last season, with Morgan, Smot, and Hardaway in the front court, Morris and Novak in the back, and Stu as the 6th man.
Too early to speculate. Lot can happen and Burke and Brundidge are gonna have to fight their way into the lineup. If I could I would neg you for adding the "Akunne may get 5 minutes" line. Not gonna happen.
cool when people neg other people just because they disagree...
then again it's not gonna happen.
with Jordan Morgan, actually.
unless it's a blowout. he's a walk-on albiet a transfer from USF.
At this point I might put Vogrich ahead of Brundridge because we have not seem him play. Vogrich used to scare me because he was a defensive liability, but I think he improved drastically this year. It is safe to say that at this point Vogrich is a better shooter than Brundridge, but I think CB is the better driver.
I just doubt that a senior captain SG is going to be sent to the bench for either of those freshmen.
Didn't they say that when the Fab Five came to town?
Yeah, but that's why the Fab Five thing was so wild - because the freshmen actually took over. The Fab Five is not the norm. That was 20 years ago.
....Burke or Brundidge are the #1 (Webber), #4 (Juwan), or #9 (Jalen) overall player in the nation.
Stu is a returning starter on a 2nd round tourney team. The guys the Fab Five replaced lost in the first round...of the NIT.
The dude just needs to develop consistency. Maybe he'll make that senior year jump. Here and there, we've seen him put up some killer moves.
I mean, I certainly hope he improves. But improvement from junior to senior year doesn't seem to be as big as from freshman to sophomore year. When they're juniors, I think most kids are who they are.
Stu is a guy that can certainly frustrate us. I think he will likely start next year and just end up with a reduced role. It took Hardaway a while this year to become the contributor that he ended up being, and I think he was a fairly precocious freshman. Darius Morris the year before ended up playing 23 minutes a game and couldn't score worth a lick. Smotrycz obviously had his growing pains. So, maybe Burke and Brundidge come in and play so well that they cut into Stu's minutes immediately, but I doubt it. You put Stu in a role with less pressure, and I think he will be just fine. I just don't feel comfortable depending on him 35 minutes a game to play lockdown D AND reliably knock down 3s, I just dont' think he's good enough for that.
but they dont' know the system as well as Douglass. JB's system is very complicated that it takes half a year or a year to full get the system. For some player, it's 2 years.
Darius Morris didn't get the system in his freshman year and he got better because he knows the system a lot better. I'm hoping that Burke and Brundidge can pick up the system pretty quickly or they won't see time on the court as much as most people wanted them to have.
It should be easier for them since JB finally has a few classes of his guys who have grown up on his system. It wasn't like that for Stu and Zack and really Darius either. They didn't have a group of upperclassman to help teach and lead. I agree with you though on the time it takes to learn the system and Stu's advantages. Still he might end up coming off the bench as the backup PG because of his command of the offense.
whatever the lineup is, it will most likely change
Belein proved that he knows what to do adjusts wise as a season goes on. Next year will be very interesting to see what he does. We still have a long way to go to be a chalk for sweet 16 next year
It's easy to follow your logic. I can't recall a returning co-captain being relegated to the bench, although Mark Hughes was named a team captain but never actually was a full time starter.
It's obvious we need another big on the floor, even if it's only to allow us to play a low-high post, and Smot definitely would be able to pull a defender away from the defensive boards due to the fact they have to respect his outside shot.
I'm certain Beilien will do some alternating in the preseason, if for no other reason than to have measurables in terms of comparisons. Going forward, i think Evan has already proven he's more vital to the team's success right now than is Stu, with the only question mark being team chemistry. We've al learned how important this is, and I can't recall quickly a M bb team w/better chemistry than this team developed over the course of the season.
When one looks at the team, it's seems almost transparent that a athletic, rebounding big to complement Jordan could propel this team to another level. However, and this is mere reiteration on the above point, it would have to be someone of the caliber of a Morris, Hardaway, etc., someone w/excellent skills but with a total understanding of his role in the overall plan that Coach B. has instilled so well this year.
Future looks bright to this fan. As Brian pointed so well, there are no moral victories for us at this point, and imo OSU was the only opponent that proved they were truly superior to the point we just couldn't beat them without playing our perfect game over the course of the past three to four weeks.
Being a team captain doesn't guarantee playing time. Freddie Hunter was the captain of the '92 team and rode the pine. But we should be clear here: the Douglass debate is not about him playing or not playing, but about him starting or being the 6th man. Either way he will be on the floor a fair amount.
The season lasts 4 months and 30 games. It will evolve and change based on matchups, conditioning, performance and, god forbid injury. UM was fairly fortunate this season with injuries. Good news is there should be 10 guys ready to play in march.
1. Douglass isn't going anywhere. He played 75% of the minutes this season and will probably stay above 70% next year. He's the best on-the-ball defender, allowing Morris to get rest on D. Douglass also shoots 36% from 3, and I think that number will rise again next year when he again improves shot selection.
2. Novak will primarily stay at the 4. His big advantage is ability to stretch the defensive with a big man guarding him. He creates a lot of the lanes for Morris. He's actually quite a good defensive rebounder (better than Jordan Morgan statistically).
3. I like Trey Burke, but I think he'll only get less than 10 minutes/game. I think his biggest problem will be on defense.
Stu shot the 3 better than Nolan Smith this year
You can espouse your opinion of his skills all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that he'll get tons of minutes in Beilein's system. Maybe not 30+ minutes per game as in the past two years but still a lot.
36% really isn't bad. Plus, his percentage made a pretty big jump between his Sophomore and Junior year so maybe next season he can make another one. He hot some big shots this year (the last second 3 in East Lansing to ice that game comes to mind), had some pretty big games (like his 19 points off the bench against Harvard - we don't win that game without him), and is the team's best perimeter defender. He's not going anywhere.
If Douglass is going to log as many minutes as you say I do not see that as a good thing for the team. This year he might have been the best on the ball defender, that does not mean next he is going to be and others will not step up their defense. Douglass is the logical canidate to take a huge hit in minutes. He will not be the only ball handler besiders Morris. Also, he is almost invisible offensively (when he is not turning the ball over) and taking him out of the line up they can go bigger. Which means that Smotryz plays the 4 and Novak goes to the 3. They got killed on the boards on sunday and many other games, so now that all the big men are a year older they can have nice rotation at the 4 and 5 spots. This years line up worked for the most part, but it should not be the line up going forward.
I think Vogrich is going to be our most dangerous weapon on the team next year. With Hardaways continued offensive improvement along with Morris and Brundridge's ability to penetrate, Vogrich is going to be left open a lot of threes.
I think Trey Burkes ability to hit threes will put a lot of pressure on Stu Douglass. I cant say im the biggest Douglass fan because of his ineptitude in the offense for much of the season and his career. He plays 30 minutes a game and can only provide 7 points a game as a Junior, three years in this offense? Plus only shooting .358% from beyond the arc isnt going to help his case.
Im excited to see more athleticism on this Michigan team. It will provide more fast breaks and more open threes with the drive and kickout.
I like Burke's game too, but he'll big a big drop off from Douglass defensively.
Where do you get that trey cant play defense ? He shut down Corey Joseph as a Junior. Thats saying more than enough for his defense. He also said himself he loves playing defense.
Agreed. Playing defense in high school is just like guarding Nolan Smith, Seth Curry, and Kyrie Irving.
Im just sayin hes a good defender. alot of guys on this blog talk as if he has no defense whats so ever. And Corey Joseph was well known in high school as an eletric scorer. It counts for somethin.
And I'm just saying that when you are guarding some of the best guards in the nation, at a collegiate level, it is a lot different than playing good defense against one guy as a junior in high school. It does count for somethin....just not much.
most of his minutes at the 4. He'll play some SF if Smotrycz and Morgan are playing together(assuming that Horford develops).
Why the Douglass hate?
I'll bet you a dollar Douglass starts and Novak plays the 4.
No Douglass hate, just stating the facts. He is a career 34% shooter from behind the arc. When we need him the most to contribute he rarely does (exception of the MSU shot). Looks great against inferior competition but look at his numbers vs the big boys like osu,wisconsin,msu,ku,purdue,duke,illinois. He doesnt step up in the biggest moments.
I believe he does start only because he is a senior who has four yrs under the system. Experience goes a long way but doesnt mean your exempt from being pushed aside if someone else is out preforming you. If Trey and/or Carl continue to improve throughout the season dont be surprised if John goes with either one of them over Stu.
that Douglass had a big game against Duke, UConn and to name a few before this season.
He's the best perimeter defender and you're saying he doesn't step up when we need him most? He's stepped up and run the offense when Morris was in foul trouble or letting frustration get to him. He's had several big games in his career. I'm excited about the freshmen coming in but the idea that either can walk in and be the defender or have the command of the offense that Douglass does seems a little optimistic.
34% is good for the top 13 all time at Michigan. Not exactly a negative if you meant it as one. I also remember the UConn game three years ago when he almost single handedly willed us to a win on the road.
"Four Michigan players are currently in the Top 13 in career 3-point percentage: Evan Smotrycz (8th, 38.1 percent); Hardaway Jr. (9th, 36.7 percent); Novak (12th, 34.7 percent) and Douglass (13th, 34.1 percent)."
This is really the only thing I disagree with here. Even if Novak's numbers go down--which I highly doubt will be the case if he is moved to the 3 where he no longer has to use so much energy on D--he is still the captain. Same with Stu. CJ Lee and David Merritt were solid but not amazing players that were still essential leaders. I don't think there is any doubt Zach and Stu will be the captains.
why so much love?
I really have no interest in belittling Stu but some here work oh so hard to make him a better and smarter player than he is. He certainly works hard, but he is what he is--which means he's limited offensively--not only from the 3 (where he was supposed to excel) but he was miserable at the foul line--he cannot run the offense for more than brief periods of time (both Tennessee and Duke aggressively attacked him whenever Morris was out)--he makes questionable decisions with the ball, particularly when he drives baseline, goes up in the air and then frantically searches for someone to dump the ball to. I disagree that he understands the offense better than Morris (and he can't run the pick-and-roll), and finally I have no idea how anyone can believe he's our best on-ball defender--point guards regularly ate us up (Taylor and Lucas come immediately to mind)--though tn his defense we faced many good ones.
And having said this, I like Stu just fine. But he ain't no Novak. He was our best fit this year for a variety of reasons--largely because Smotrych wasn't ready. But to move to the next level, someone will need to step up and take some of his time--whether it is one of the frosh, Vogrich or a second big man. I want to love Stu--but preferrably in the way I loved Rob Pelinka.
I cringed every time Stu took the ball up the court this season. He got clean picked more times than I want to remember, which rarely happens in the college game. He's a liability on offense, and I don't think he's any better than Morris or Novak defensively.
than just stats. He's their best on the ball defender and knows the system. He doesn't turn the ball over and can play both PG and SG.
Novak will play the four because that's his best position and that's where he's most productive.
Michigan played a lot better when Stu was inserted into the starting lineup and move Novak to the 4. I expect that to continue to happen next year.
I don't agree that Novak is most productive at the 4. He was absolutely shooting the lights out when he was playing the 3. After the switch his 3-point percentage dropped by quite a bit over the rest of the regular season. Only in the two tourney games did he finally seem to regain his stroke.
The lineup switch for Michigan was all about Smotrycz hitting the wall/not playing well at the 4, NOT Novak's failings at the 3. As good as Novak is FOR HIS SIZE as a rebounder, bigger guys are better AND necessary against the teams we play against. We can always break the small lineup out and be very effective, but we're not a championship level team with Novak guarding Mbakwe one on one. And why should we do that to the poor kid? He can guard small forwards and help out on the boards just as easily from the 3.
I don't know why people are granting Douglass "best on the ball defender," but I'll give you that.
Our team, as a whole, doesn't turn the ball over frequently. That's built in to the system. Douglass turns the ball over a lot, relatively. He gets picked more than any other player when he's handling the ball, and he makes awful decisions on driving the lane where he gets blocked, heaves up a terrible shot, or puts himself in an impossible situation to salvage a pass.
Everyone coming back next year knows the system.
We'll have plenty of talent that can play the one next season.
I don't dislike Stu, but I agree with what Magnus said about him on his blog: he thinks he's better than he is. I'd like to see his minutes scaled back considerably next season as we graduate to the next level as a team.
Douglass's turnover rate is lower than Morris's.
And I know that Morris handles the ball more than Stu, but it isn't like Stu is just a spot up shooter like Vogrich. He handles the ball a lot.
His turnover rate is lower, but I'm guessing opposing teams don't exactly game plan to stop Stu Douglass. He might be our defensive "stopper" but I doubt other teams are putting their defensive stopper on him.
Well now, I don't think that's a very fair criticism. You're basically criticizing him for not being our best player. He's a role player. Every team has a few. You can't play five high-usage guys at the same time.
No, you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm saying things need to be looked at in context. Morris may have a higher turnover rate, but he's a) handling the ball more and b) probably being checked by the opposition's best or second-best defender.
I'm not a very good basketball player. If I'm playing against eighth graders, I sure as hell better not get my pocket picked. But if I'm playing a pickup game against a very good defender, then it's more excusable to get the ball stolen once in awhile.
So if Douglass's turnover rate were as high as Morris's, that would indeed be a very bad thing. But just pointing out that Stu's rate is lower doesn't really tell us much.
OK, I see what you're saying. I agree about the turnover rate - we don't really ask that much of Stu when it comes to ballhandling beyond occasionally bringing it up the court.
But what team where you watching this year when stating that he does not turn the ball over? He had 2 turnovers sunday in the first 2 minutes of the game. He barely gets the ball up court against pressure all the time. I cringe every time he drives baseline and gets up in the air with no place to go. He is what he is! A limted player that is trying his best, but clearly not a Big Ten caliber player.
Again with Novak at the 4. Yes, it worked ok this year, but I thought the idea was to get better. Duke outboarded Michigan 2-1 sunday, besides the numerous easy lobs inside for bunnys. If Novak was able to get that last rebound before it went out of bounds sunday, we might be talking about playing Arizona and not about next year right now. God love him and he has a place in the line up, but Michigan has to go bigger next year.
"Look at how our lineup changed throughout the season."
Yes, we got much better when Stu started and Smot came off the bench.
It's easy to pick on Stu but when he was a starter, the team as a whole played better. You can look at individual numbers all you want but what matters is the end is wins. The run we made at the end of the year came when Stu started. Now I totally agree that Smot played very well but he did that coming off the bench and I think he felt more comfortable with it. What I wanna see is how the incoming freshman will contribute. Trey Burke could be very helpful giving Morris just enough minutes to rest to finish strong or whenever he gets in foul trouble just like he did in the first half vs. Duke and Burndidge could just be another scorer off the bench for JB with Vogrich and Smot. But first the freshman will have to be committed to the defensive end first and learn the complex offense JB runs so we'll see how that all shapes out. But next year looks very very promising for this Wolverines team. Can't wait.
the team improved as hardaway became a legit scorer, which happened around the time stu began starting again. hardaway was the key, not stu.
i will be surprised if smot doesn't start again next year. i'm sure beilein wants this to happen, otherwise he wouldn't have done it in the first place. if smot improves just marginally in the offseason, his minutes will be much more important than stu's. i also think it possible that vogrich's game improves this summer and surpasses stu.
and if the frosh guards show that they deserve some minutes, all the better. it will mean we have real good depth. especially if horford makes a leap as well.
The turnaround started before Stu entered the lineup. The turning point of the season - MSU in East Lansing - was game #21. Douglass became a starter four games later.
I don't really have a problem with Douglass, but if you start him, you basically have to go small (because Morris/Hardaway/Novak aren't going to lose their spots), and I think our ceiling is limited with Morgan as our only starter above 6'5".
It's not that easy to just pluck one guy out and disregard the rest of the players, how they are able to spread the floor, set picks, make the right pass. Hardaway definitely improved but it was within the flow of the entire offense.
Well yeah, but you don't see just anyone drop 30 one night (at Iowa) and 20 in the second half of another (MSU at Crisler) and go on a one-man 13-point run down the stretch of another (at PSU). When Hardaway found his bearings in this offense, we got the reliable second scorer we needed - and he ended up becoming a go-to guy in his own right.
Max Bielfeldt is going to choose Michigan. Anyone see him being able to see the floor?
Doesn't seem like there's enough minutes
Not every frosh is as good as Hardaway. I wouldn't be surprised if Burke and Brundidge take a year to learn what to do. I think Beilein prefers knowledge over athleticism many times, so it will be hard to unseat this years players who have already gelled.
I wish we could just play the freshmen sparingly and redshirt them Well need them when Novak and Douglas graduate, but next year they are a luxury.
is very, very uncommon. You don't see it unless they are injured like Jordan Morgan or they have too much depth that a player needs to hit the weightroom to get stronger and bigger like McLimans.
Brundidge and Burke won't redshirt next season.
PG- Darius (30), Burke (10)
SG- Novak (13), Stu (17), Brundidge (10)
W- Hardaway (30), Vogrich (10)
PF- Smot (25), Novak (15)
C- Morgan (25), Horford (15)
I took Stu and Zach's numbers down at SG bc i think Brundidge will find his way on the court, whether it's at the two or three, for about 10 minutes. This obviously can change a little based on how good the freshmen are.
- I think Horford's gonna break out a little over the summer.
- I think Smot is gonna make a pretty big jump too. He'll be a really efficient 25 minutes.
- First players listed at each position are starters.
pretty much here. but i bet morris gets closer to 35 min per game, leaving about 15 min max for the frosh guards to split; probably closer to 10 min.
I think this is as good an estimate as any. I think Morris will get 35 minutes per game in important games, but I expect there will be times we will blow out opponents, so Burke will get more PT. That's where the approximate 30 min/g will come from.
I agree for the most part, but I have a hard time seeing Novak only playing 28 minutes a game.
That's the exact lineup I was going to go with. Stu probably won't start, but he's going to his minutes. He's too valuable of a defender to ride the bench all game.
...Coach Alexander can work his magic with McLimans.
I'd like to see Smotrcyz/Horford at the 4 and Morgan/McLimans at the 5.
Novak is interesting b/c he doesn't have enough handle to play 2, so he's likely a 3, but then who starts? I don't see how you can bring either he or THJ off the bench.
It's easy to see why Coach Beilein said there's going to be a lot of competition for PT next year.
know that people were so down on Douglass and Novak. I can see where some of you coming from, but it isn't as simple as this guy is more athletic than that guy so start him. Not only are Stu and Douglass going into their fourth year starting, but they are guys that fit the system.
If being athletic was that important in this offense, then logic would say last year's team would have been much better. I too would like us to go a bit bigger, but that's not this offense. I think the best scanerio for us next year with so many guys that can play would get to the point where we can have a small ball lineup (ie this years lineup) and then also have a more protypical big ten lineup (ie Smot and Morgan manning down the 4 and 5).
Say what you want about Douglass, Novak will starting. I think the team chemistry is being underrated a bit. This year's lineup (and Smot near the end of season) proved they know how to make each other better, and not sure you want to mess with that. Maybe gradually sprinkle in new contributors (hopefully) like Brundide and Horford as the season goes on.
My thing is I really don't think Novak should be a starting forward. He's a guard, and THJ and Morris are both better than him. Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing McLimans starting where Novak normally would, and put his 6' 10" frame in the paint with Morgan, and THJ, Morris, and Smotz around the perimeter, with Morris and THJ having driving ability. Novak, Stu, Horford, Carlton coming off the bench would be pretty solid. But that's just me, don't expect everyone to agree with me.
I honestly do not know where all this talk about Haraway and all of his 6' 3" glory is playing the SF position? I know we play smaller than most, but that is just crazy. I don't even want Novac at the SF. Kid is great, but with the log jam at guard, Novac really should be a bench player, and let the starting SF be someone with size like McLimans. This team really needs to have some size on it. You don't need to have a true blue center (Duke doesn't), but seriously running out there 4 guards and 1 post presence in Morgan isn't going to get us into the Final Four odds are, unless our shooters go on a hot streak, which is the problem with this team. When shooters go cold you need a post presence to put some points on the board until the shooters can get the their mojo back.
Hardaway is listed at 6'5'' which would make him an ideal size to play SF. Much more ideal than a 6'10'' McLimans.
What the heck makes you think McLimans has the skill necessary to play the 3? Hardaway HAS been playing the 3 all season, he's a solid 6 foot 5, and he's been perfect at the position. McLimans will be lucky to play 5 minutes a game next year.
McLimans handle or shoot the ball? And how many 6'9"/6'10" "3s" are there in college basketball? I think McLimans still has a chance to contribute to this team--he's athletic and young--but it's likely to be more on the defensive end. And when did THJ shrink 2 inches?
I don't think there is very much criticism of Stu here. I think a lot of people expect at least one freshman to be able to contribute more than Stu.
For example, Smotrycz started putting up 10-15 points/game at the end of the season, which was more than Stu's average. He can play a big guy, but he can also shoot the 3. Stu is a better defender. I'd say they both have their perks and are better in certain situations. However, if Smotrycz has a good offseason and improves as a defender (not taking so many stupid blocks) the advantage that Stu has might dissipate and the only time that he would be the better play to have in the lineup would be when we are defending a close lead at the end of the game.
The same arguments can be made for a lot of the young players.
Why do you get to presume that those who disagree with you got on the (band)wagon late? And, of course, it presupposes that you were prescient.
It is always convenient to stress the (usually subjective) intangibles when you don't have statistics to support your position. You'll notice, no one is questioning the intangibles Novak brings (to the court) that don't show up in boxscore. And while I believe that Stu does contribute intangibles, most of them likely are in the locker room and in practice, and don't require he actually play many minutes. Sort of like Dave Merritt.
Finally, the comments about Stu on this thread started with those over-stating his value--others simply responded to give IMHO a more nuanced assessment.
I think we'll have two main lineups: Morris, Novak, Hardaway, Smotrycz, and Morgan; and Morris/Douglass/Hardaway, Novak, Hardaway, Douglass/Vogrich, Morgan/Smotrycz. Basically, the main lineup with be the former. Two big guys for the pick and rolls to the basket. Smotricz can shoot a 3 if necessary. It's about a 6" increase in size from Douglass to Smotrycz, so that should help us out most of the time. The latter will be our shooting lineup. A lot more 3s than pick and rolls. It can be used against smaller lineups, when we are down, or when we are playing Minnesota. I think we'll be changing between these lineups just like we change defenses.
All this entire discussion shows us is that Beilein should have a lot of flexibility next year with a lot of players around that can do a variety of different things. Given his experience and talent as a coach, we should expect that he will have a few different line-ups and combinations that he uses depending upon who we play against and how we match up and if we get into foul trouble and who is playing better or worse or hustling on defense, etc.
These are all problems to have, and I'm sure Coach has the experience and intelligence to figure it out and put people into positions and playing time and combinations where they can be the most successful.
I don't hate Douglass, I like him as a player and I got psyched as all hell on that dunk too.
HOWEVA - I think we need to start either Metrics or Horford next year (probably Metrics) and that means one of the guards needs to be relegated to the bench. It's not going to be Morris or Hardaway, that we know. So that leaves Stu and Novak. At the beginning of the year when Metrics was starting, Stu was the one coming off the bench, and I think if you asked anyone who watched a UM basketball game this year who should start between Novak and Stu, they'd say Novak all day long.
They both can shoot the three - but Novak took the charges, Novak guarded the guy no one else wanted to, Novak got the rebounds and Novak was the leader. Stu will play next year, but he'll get a lot fewer minutes than this year. Stu got a lot of minutes the last couple years because he was one of the only guards we had with any experience. That will not be the case next year.
If guys like Vogrich, Burke and/or Brundidge end up looking like solid contributors, Stu's minutes might decrease a lot.
It's really more simple that any of this:
Step 1: Maximize our synergy
Step 2: shift some paradigms
Step 3: DUH, WINNING!!!!!!