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This is Your Only Penn State Thread

This is your Penn State Thread for the next couple of days. The following items should not be posted in a new thread anymore and will be deleted:

1. Any media personality's opinion on the scandal

2. An article about the scandal

3. "WTF this is whack" reactions

4. Basically anything else about the controversy

Here's the deal--Paterno is out at the end of the year. Everyone else is getting fired or "resigning." The accusations are appalling and now that there are rumors of Federal involvement, the sledgehammer that is the criminal justice system is going to exact very angry revenge in the coming months.

As I type this, 40% of board topics are about this topic. The obvious lessons are to never forget and always do the right thing--even when it is incredibly hard. Please do so in your personal life going forward.

I'm not doing this to be a jerk. We just need to try and control the chaos.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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November 9th, 2011 at 9:56 PM | At Last... (Score:1)
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.....a condensation (hopefully) of the collective thoughts of the board. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 9th, 2011 at 9:57 PM | Thank you (Score:2 Normal)
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.

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November 9th, 2011 at 9:59 PM | much needed...forgot that we (Score:4 Normal)
coldnjl
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much needed...forgot that we have a game on Saturday for a minute there

November 9th, 2011 at 10:01 PM | The Act 2.0? (Score:1)
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The Act 2.0?

"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:02 PM | A perfect example ... (Score:2 Normal)
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why the mods on this blog are SO important!  Thank you and ...

Go Blue!

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:25 PM | this might work for the 10 (Score:5 Normal)
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this might work for the 10 hours it takes the thread to move toward the bottom of the first page of results under MGoBoard on the front page. after that, it's not going to. if they really want it all here, they need to (a) sticky this thread to the top of the MGoBoard *on the front page* and (b) make subthreads collapsible so you can actually figure out what the hell entries in long discussions are responding to.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:40 PM | It won't show up under "Hot" either (Score:1)
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without all the "Jibber Jabber" (-Mr. T) filling up 3 pages but we'll know it's here and that's all that matters.

 

"that's why you don't go to Ohio State, Lawrence"

November 9th, 2011 at 10:02 PM | I heard psu is doing well (Score:2 Funny)
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8-1...why the thread?

UM vs osu 2011 bring your keys and make noise (get it keys!)

November 9th, 2011 at 10:18 PM | It's a good thing we don't play them this year (Score:2)
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The defense is good - only giving up 12 points per game.

Crunch. Zip. Live to fight another day.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:12 PM |   One thing I’ve wondered (Score:5 Normal)
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One thing I’ve wondered and I think I’ve seen only one other poster mention is the glaring absence of one figure throughout the narrative: Sandusky’s wife. I’m curious what she was thinking throughout this whole bizarre saga.

Got a quarter?

November 9th, 2011 at 10:15 PM | Chaos? Wow, that certainly seems out of touch (Score:2 Normal)
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with what is happening on this blog and thoughout the country.  Oh well, thanks for limiting free expression -- the "institutional control stuff" is kind of addictive, isn't it?

Your opinion has no value.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:26 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:2 Normal)
HennesTattoo
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I will go about the rest of my time on this thread assuming you were joking with this post.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:28 PM | This board is not for "free (Score:3 Normal)
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This board is not for "free expression." It is Brian's board and he appoints moderators to keep it clean. It is a Michigan athletic fan blog. If you truly feel you have a great insight that needs to be heard there are probably better public forums for you. Sorry for going off but people claiming free speech in privately owned venues bothers me.
Of course this scandal is deeply disturbing but this is not the only place it can be discussed and maintaining a single thread allows discussion of Michigan athletics, the purpose of this site, to prevail.

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

November 9th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | I'm a little behind on (Score:1 Normal)
bronxblue
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I'm a little behind on updating the software on my sarcasm meter.  I am going to presume this little rant was written in jest; otherwise you might want to check on "free expression" with other blogs that you find more acceptable.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:18 PM | I'm not sure if there is a (Score:5 Normal)
WestMichiganMan
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I'm not sure if there is a real answer to this, but if Joe Paterno is unfit to remain the head coach after this year, what makes him fit to remain the head coach for the completion of this season? What changes between now and January 3?

November 9th, 2011 at 10:52 PM | Dammit, I've got a new (Score:0 Trolling)
November 9th, 2011 at 10:21 PM |   I'd like to start a new (Score:5 Normal)
papabear16
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I'd like to start a new thread to make one, PSA-type point.  But I'll make it here first.  Mods, you tell me how you want it done...

Abuse Victims Are Not Damaged Goods

There is one troubling statement I have seen in a number of sportswriter opinion pieces which I feel needs to be addressed.  These writers have made statements like, "These kids will never be able to love," or "These kids will never be able to trust anyone again," or "These kids' lives have been ruined."  I'm sure the writers are trying to convey the enormity of these crimes, to sypathize as best they can, but unintentionally, they send the message to anyone reading those articles (including, likely, many silent victims of these crimes) that there is no hope for a normal life after something like this.  And that is not true.

Recovery is hard.  Recovery is long.  But it can happen.  Victims can learn to love, can learn to trust, can learn to be wonderful members of our society.  I have personally worked with people who started off as "sexual abuse victims" and now consider themselves to be "someone who was abused as a child."  I'm sure I'm saying this inartfully, so let me try again.  While sexual absue will always be something that happened to these victims, it need not be the thing that defines their lives.

I think this is something we should all keep in mind as we talk about this case with the children - and the adults - in our lives.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:25 PM | I'm sorry, how is this (Score:-1 Trolling)
November 9th, 2011 at 10:23 PM | I find this bizarre (Score:2 Normal)
ccdevi
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why do you feel the need to effectively sensor the board?

If people don't want to talk about it, it will go away, if they do, why stop it? 

Not to mention that while its not directly Michigan related, its a monster college football story, maybe the biggest of all time, involving a Big 10 rival no less. 

Strange decision imo.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:26 PM | This isn't about censoring the board. (Score:2 Normal)
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It's about keeping it clean.  we can't have 500 threads started about the same topic.  It prevents other relevant news from coming thru.  We're better off with single daily thread to cover all new opinions (any real unexpected news can get its own thread).

 

"Michigan isn't going to lose a game" - Fielding Yost, 1901

November 9th, 2011 at 10:34 PM | Pretty sure (Score:2 Normal)
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censorship only applies to the government. Brian, and by extension, the people he appoints to do his bidding, can do whatever he wants on his board. Nobody is stopping you from talking about the Penn State issue. They are only saying that all posting about it should be done in this thread.

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:16 PM | This isn't censoring - it is (Score:1 Overrated)
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This isn't censoring - it is consolidating.  While it is horrific what happened with PSU, the board doesn't need 30 posts with everyone saying "my opinion is y" or some offshoot of an already-discussed topic.  Post your thoughts here, then everyone can see them and respond.  I'm actually a fan of these style of posts - I love the morning/afternoon/evening game threads for this reason alone.  I know, different context, but it keeps all the thoughts in one area.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:31 PM | To be fair, (Score:2 Normal)
HouseThatYostBuilt
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this is the biggest story in college football since...I don't know when. Not to mention it's an evolving story. I think this ban on new PSU threads is premature.

GBOD

November 9th, 2011 at 10:47 PM | 100% agree (Score:1 Offtopic)
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This place has been bizarrely black-and-white, conformist, and closely monitored since the scandal broke. I'm not sure what they're so afraid of.

RIP my avatar, June 14, 1998 - October 26, 2012.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:48 PM | also (Score:0 Normal)
November 9th, 2011 at 10:38 PM | Then feel free to bump any (Score:3 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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Then feel free to bump any one of the other 50 threads that your potential comment might fit in.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:41 PM | I would think this would (Score:2)
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I would think this would warrant a new thread, but I guess here goes: Penn State Board of Trustees just scheduled a 10pm news conference for tonight.  I don't know if it will be covered on any live TV (any help?).

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

November 9th, 2011 at 10:51 PM | ESPN just said they're going (Score:1)
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to cover it. 

How sad is it that I'm actually watching Miami (not that Miami) at Temple?

November 9th, 2011 at 11:06 PM | Even sadder was the fact that (Score:2)
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Even sadder was the fact that I was watching Arizona-Duquesne.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:48 PM | Thanks.  This was needed. I (Score:1 Normal)
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Thanks.  This was needed.

I will stick to my argument that Paterno probably knew less than some think, that he failings are more of omission than commission or even admission, but that he still failed everyone immeasurably.  I don't think that should wholly tarnish his legacy at Penn St. both on and off the field, but as Six Zero pointed out so well in his post, his era at PSU will never be viewed the same.

November 9th, 2011 at 10:50 PM | PSU President to resign (Score:2 Normal)
Jarred
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The Penn State Rivals site is reporting that PSU President Spanier has submitted his letter of resignation.

 

http://bwi.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1291185

November 9th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Too lazy to start thread, but (Score:1)
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Too lazy to start thread, but Joe Pa won't coach any more games this season. 

November 9th, 2011 at 10:54 PM | Joe Pa has been fired per (Score:2)
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Joe Pa has been fired per nearly everybody on twitter. I think that deserves one more thread.

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Go Blue!

 

November 9th, 2011 at 10:57 PM | Wow (Score:1)
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just saw that on Darren Rovel's Twitter accout. What a surreal week.

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November 9th, 2011 at 10:57 PM | Bradley taking over, as (Score:1)
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Bradley taking over, as expected. Good for him. I wonder if PSU lets him walk after this season or not, he was always rumored to be the successor when Joe Pa would retire. 

November 10th, 2011 at 12:45 AM | I really have a hard time (Score:1)
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I really have a hard time believing that Bradley wasn't fairly aware of the Penn State football team harboring a child rapist just the same as Paterno.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:07 PM | If it ever starts, you can (Score:2)
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If the feed ever starts, you can apparently watch the Board's presser here: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livenow?id=8425797

November 9th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Do they tear down the PSU facilities? (Score:2 Normal)
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How could a player go back into those showers? How would a recruit view those facilities on a visit? Seems liked a damned area that could not be scrubbed enough to be clean. I would feel so dirty just being there. God knows how McCreary was able to look at that place again over the last 9 years without serious flashbacks. He is more cold blooded than I am.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:14 PM | And there it is. (Score:2)
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And there it is.

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
November 9th, 2011 at 11:15 PM | It's official. Mr. Paterno is (Score:2)
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It's official. Mr. Paterno is done at Penn State.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:20 PM | Might Have Known Earlier Today... (Score:1)
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....for as I was driving to Jimmy John's for some refreshment, they said that an AP reporter tweeted that Joe  Paterno left the football office with an almost ashen look. He might have known about  noon-ish today. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:16 PM | Spanier out Paterno (Score:2)
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Spanier out

Paterno out

McQuery in?

"the Spirit of Michigan...is based on a deathless loyalty to Michigan and all her ways....and a conviction that nowhere is there a better university, in any way, than this Michigan of ours" - Fielding Yost
November 9th, 2011 at 11:21 PM | That's sort of the part I (Score:1)
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That's sort of the part I don't get.  McQueary failed those kids in the same way Paterno did.  I'm not sure what would prevent the Board from deciding to fire McQueary, as well.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:23 PM | Who would have thought that (Score:1)
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Who would have thought that over the past 2 years, both OSU and PSU, two of the more stable programs in CFB, would undergo massive, unexpected upheaval due to off-the-field issues.  And yes, tattoos and payments to players are a massive difference than what happened with Sandusky, but it still shocks me how in a 12-month period so muc has changed in the conference and in CFB.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:32 PM | The national reporters want (Score:1)
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The national reporters want facts and the local media is angry they fired Paterno before he got his swan song.  With such a slack-jawed local media, its not a surprise that they allowed the program to go unchecked for so long.

 


 
November 9th, 2011 at 11:31 PM | The local media might fuck (Score:3 Normal)
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The local media might fuck around and incite a riot all by themselves.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:34 PM | A reporter just mentioned a riot (Score:1)
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A reporter just mentioned a riot going on during the press conference, asking if he knew there was a riot going on right now.

November 9th, 2011 at 11:41 PM | the angry reporters sounded like students to me (Score:1)
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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/police_in_riot_gear_d...

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November 9th, 2011 at 11:47 PM | Never (Score:1)
triangle_M
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have I seen (heard) such a gaggle of idiot reporters in my life.  I hope those fuckers like the middle of Pennslyvania, because they shouldn't ever get a job outside of that region.  Weird

 

Edit:  So according to some actual reporters there, the idiots asking the belligerent questions were students (wearing PSU t shirts).

 


 
November 9th, 2011 at 11:37 PM | If something doesn't get (Score:1)
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If something doesn't get burned to the ground tonight, it will be a minor miracle.

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