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November 15th, 2012 at 9:37 PM
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You would do what to the person telling you we would be #1 in Pass Defense w/o Countess

Statistics are funny things and always need to be taken in context, but there is no-effing-way I would ever believe we would be this late in the year with the #1 Pass Defense without Countess playing more than a few series. It is actually inconceivable.  Yes the Big Ten is down, but they still do drop back and pass the ball. Absolutely incredible job by Mallory getting this group to play with confidence and technique. There are not enough points to minus from Gibson to add to Mallory, tip of the hat. 

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:39 PM | High-five? (Score:5 Normal)
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High-five?

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:51 PM | AWW YISSS (Score:3 Normal)
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Epic High Five

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November 16th, 2012 at 9:11 AM | Middle Five (Score:1)
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Waist high or not at all...

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:52 PM | Low-five (Score:5 Normal)
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Low-five

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:41 PM | 0 points for this guy?  My 3 (Score:5 Informative)
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0 points for this guy?  My 3 year old's favorite thing is the down-low too slow low five.  Let's show some respect...

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:40 PM | It's better than I thought, (Score:3 Normal)
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It's better than I thought, but the two big reasons are 1. Lack of quality opponent QBs, and 2. Lots of PI calls.

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November 15th, 2012 at 11:10 PM | PI calls? Doesn't that hurt a (Score:2 Normal)
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PI calls? Doesn't that hurt a defense, or is pass D only measured in yards without anything else?

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November 15th, 2012 at 11:19 PM | QBs (Score:5 Normal)
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On that note, I would have been a lot more dismissive of the person who told me Taylor Martinez would be the best passer in the Big Ten at some point in his career.

Yikes.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:42 PM | I would (Score:3 Normal)
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make them a chocolate malt...

"Only three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad" -Bo Schembechler

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:28 PM | Wow. (Score:5 Normal)
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If you'd make someone a chocolate malt just for telling you a statistic, then I can only imagine what you would do for a Klondike bar.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:06 PM | You're title is making my (Score:5 Normal)
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You're title is making my brain hurt.

But I would tell that person to tell me what our run defense is, our total defense, rank and are we going to the Rose Bowl?

You know, Dude, I myself dabbled in pacifism once. Not in 'Nam of course.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:35 PM | Your improper use of "you're" (Score:3 Normal)
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Your improper use of "you're" is making my brain hurt.  You should probably try to figure out contractions before criticizing others.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:43 PM | BIG TENNNN (Score:5 Normal)
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BIG TENNNN

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:44 PM | I would tell you that (Score:5 Normal)
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The Big Ten is terrible.

Yep, that's Simba made out of a pineapple.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:45 PM | tell him that stat is over (Score:5 Normal)
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tell him that stat is over misleading and not to buy into it.

Vice.com

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:47 PM | On a side note, I wonder how (Score:5 Normal)
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On a side note, I wonder how much time Raymon Taylor would have gotten this year if Countess was still around. Taylor has evolved into the best corner on this defense, at least from Michigan State's point of view (targeting floyd almost exclusively). 

Go Blue!

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:49 PM | Debbie Downer here (Score:1 Normal)
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We Still have to play 2 very good throwing teams and after last week I am not sure this ends great  Yes the glass will still be 70% full. No Countess you are right no way we ever sniff this side of 50.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | I wouldn't call Iowa a good throwing team... (Score:2 Normal)
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they're averaging 5.6YPA and Vandenberg has only five TD's against six INT's through the air.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | Ohio State and Iowa? They (Score:3 Normal)
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Ohio State and Iowa? They probably rank #4 and #3 for worst passing teams we play respectively. 

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:02 PM | OSU is tied (with M) for 98th (Score:2 Normal)
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OSU is tied (with M) for 98th ranked pass offense, but is averaging 7.8YPA which is definitely respectable.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:51 PM | Not to take anything away (Score:4 Normal)
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Not to take anything away from are secondary because they have done a tremendous job but lack of quality QB play in the Big Ten is a large reason. Look at these B1G numbers.

Passing Yards By Team D1

26. Indiana

40. Penn State

64. Purdue

73. Michigan State

80. Nebraska

96. Iowa

100(Tied). Michigan

100(Tied). Ohio State

102. Minnesota

108. Illinois

112. Wisconsin

114. Northwestern 

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | If you would have told me (Score:3 Normal)
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Indiana would have the #26 passing yardage in D1 at this point, I would have been really shocked!  Wow.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:45 PM | The coach is Kevin Wilson, (Score:5 Normal)
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The coach is Kevin Wilson, who created quite an effective passing attack as OC at Oklahoma.

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November 16th, 2012 at 7:48 AM | +1 to you (Score:2)
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But they were 84th last year in passing offense, had a 1-11 record, had a new coach and lost a bunch of players. I know it's the Big Tennn but it's a pretty surprising turnaround so quickly and without a lot of great players.

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November 16th, 2012 at 10:57 AM | Greg Mattison (Score:1)
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says its possible to turn like that around.

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:53 PM | I would probably moderate -1 (Score:5 Normal)
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I would probably moderate -1 (trolling).

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:55 PM | Our secondary doesn't have a (Score:0 Redundant)
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Our secondary doesn't have a lot of speed, and we lack big playmakers..  We haven't face a decent passing QB all year..

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:44 PM | Umm... what? Bama's boy was (Score:2)
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Umm... what? Bama's boy was in the Heisman hunt.  We're just lucky we didn't have to try to stop McLovin.  That is an impossibility.

Hail.

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November 16th, 2012 at 11:23 AM | SEC Bias aside (Score:1)
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Bama didn't HAVE to pass to beat us and therefore did it just enought to keep us honest on D.

I am very impressed with the D this year but feel is is due to scheme and technique to a greater part than individual talent. 

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November 15th, 2012 at 9:57 PM | Imagine Next Year... (Score:3 Normal)
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...when Countess is back and Taylor is a second year starter. Rock solid!

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | T Y son of Detroit (Score:0)
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I stand corrected.....Again

"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed"           D C  Coach Mattison

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | What I Would Say... (Score:4 Normal)
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Two of the more significant contributions among all defensive statistics for 2011 are that Countess accounted for 5% of total tackles and 17% of pass breakups, both of which are significant and definitely confirm that he is a presence in the secondary. 

Consider as well the offenses we have seen this year, several of which are not generally known for their effective passing  games. On average, teams last year were 17 of 28 against us, but this year, the average is 14 of 25. They are throwing less, but with a second year in Mattison's defense in progress, when they are throwing, we are giving up 22% fewer yards per game on average, and we are on track  to give up 28% fewer total yards. So, there are the generally anemic passing games, but what there is of a passing game, we are defending it better. 

Mallory deserves a lot of credit for getting the secondary to the level that they are at, but I can't help but think sometimes how much better these already stellar pass defense stats would be with Countess out there....

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:08 PM | That's great but (Score:4 Normal)
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That's great but if you watch the games you can tell that our pass defense isn't that great. So many B1G QBs have missed huge opportunities to make big plays in the passing game. Our secondary has gotten beat repeatedly but the QBs are just missing.

So what would I say? I would say thank you to the B1G QBs for being absolutely terrible at hitting wide open WR.

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November 16th, 2012 at 2:05 AM | and (Score:1)
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Did we even stop the backup QB for NW? Like our D but we aren't the best at anything.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:09 PM | ? (Score:2)
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#1...Blake Countess...does Braylon know?

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Touchdown Billy Taylor!

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:12 PM | I would have told him to shut (Score:5 Funny)
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I would have told him to shut his fucking face, Uncle fucker.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | Why would you do that?  (Score:5 Normal)
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Why would you do that?  Unless he's a cock-sucking, ass-licking uncle fucker. 

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:23 PM | ...the hell...? (Score:4 Normal)
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...the hell...?

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vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:25 PM | You fuck your uncle, yes it's (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Joined: 11/13/2009
MGoPoints: 17719

You fuck your uncle, yes it's true.  Nobody fucks uncles quite like you.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:36 PM | NSFW for language but thats (Score:5 Normal)
BeileinBuddy
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Joined: 11/11/2009
MGoPoints: 758

NSFW for language but thats implied

 

North Campus' resident Sport Management major
Michigan Concrete Canoe Team - http://umich.edu/~concanoe

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November 16th, 2012 at 3:53 AM | Can't believe they cut the (Score:3 Normal)
turtleboy
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Joined: 04/22/2011
MGoPoints: 3216

Can't believe they cut the ending: Suck my balls.

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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November 16th, 2012 at 4:20 AM | Was that from the movie they made? (Score:1)
Maizenblueball
Joined: 12/08/2011
MGoPoints: 487

Or was that from the tv show?...I'm assuming it was from the movie, due to all the F-bombs.  It's been so long since I watched that South Park movie, that I can't remember where this scene came from.

Chuck Norris wears Brady Hoke pajamas.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:48 PM | We've (Score:2)
Soulfire21
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Joined: 03/18/2010
MGoPoints: 3149

Been over this, all of the teams we've played do not have good passing offenses.  Now, that's not to discredit a good defense, but it is to be realistic.

EDIT:  BIG TENNNNN!  [had to]

HAIL.

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:47 PM | What do you want? (Score:0 Flamebait)
YoOoBoMoLloRoHo
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Joined: 11/01/2012
MGoPoints: 1002

Since you're the one telling me that we're #1, I'll just ask you to name your gift. I don't believe it, but I'll accept it as the only good news of this stinkin' day.

(PS - Please don't reply like my wife by stating a bunch of innuendo and suggestions and then yell at me for not buying something completely different because I should have anticipated your real request.)

"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak.  But it takes everybody."  - Charles Woodson

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November 15th, 2012 at 10:53 PM | I'm not sure.  But to be (Score:2)
snarling wolverine
Joined: 12/14/2011
MGoPoints: 4703

I'm not sure.  But to be honest, our pass D looked pretty shaky last week.  

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November 15th, 2012 at 11:05 PM | But who is (Score:1)
Greg McMurtry
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Joined: 02/25/2009
MGoPoints: 4040

#1 in opponent passer rating and YPA?

...confidence is the stain they can't wipe off...

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November 15th, 2012 at 11:24 PM | Pass Efficiency (Score:4 Normal)
Soulfire21
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Joined: 03/18/2010
MGoPoints: 3149

Pass Efficiency Defense and Opponent YPA

Opponent adjustments: Success Rate and PPP combine to form S&P, an OPS-like measure for football. Then each team's S&P output for a given category (Rushing/Passing on either Standard Downs or Passing Downs) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents and their opponents' opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones.

Pass Efficiency Defense
Raw Data:
No. 1 FLORIDA STATE
No. 36 MICHIGAN

Opponent Adjusted:
No. 1 ALABAMA
No. 27 MICHIGAN

I could only find raw data for opponent YPA

Opponent YPA
Raw Data:
No. 1 FLORIDA STATE (5.2 YPA)
No. 18 MICHIGAN (6.0 YPA)

HAIL.

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November 15th, 2012 at 11:37 PM | Depends (Score:3 Normal)
M-Wolverine
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Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 38878

Is the person telling me Mattison?

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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November 16th, 2012 at 12:21 AM | excited to get Countess back next year (Score:2 Normal)
funandgun
Joined: 09/27/2010
MGoPoints: 87

I had forgotten about him being out.  If he fully recovers, he will give us a huge boost in the secondary. 

"You have to beat the best to be the best"

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November 16th, 2012 at 5:56 AM | Tattoo "BIG TEHNNNNN!!!!" to (Score:3 Normal)
Seth
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Joined: 10/14/2008
MGoPoints: 48336

Tattoo "BIG TEHNNNNN!!!!" to their foreheads because they obviously think Big Ten QBs and receivers are going to Suuuuuuck.

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