somehow we're only 124th
You say walk on like it's a bad thing
Who are you and what are you upset about? Did you mean to post this somewhere else? Is this in reference to a particular article or topic?
Or are you just spouting to spout.
Not a specific topic but it shows up from time and it's stupid. Sorry for the rant.
Perhaps the OP just watched Rudy.
Boooooo. Rudy sucks!
im guessing he is talking about Kovacs.
Or Moundros? Really though, MGoBoard should be left for more informational posts. Posts like these should be posted in Diaries, where there is a character or word minimum to mitigate people just spewing random thoughts onto the internet.
he is Kovacs...
Not sure why you are so mad. If it really matters the scouting services didn't make the player a walk-on, the 120ish D1 football teams did by not offering him a scholarship.
In fairness, the fact that he walked on here does not necessarily mean that no school offered him a scholarship. We've had guys turn down MAC scholarships to walk on here before.
yeah thats why I said 120ish and limited my remark to D1 teams
How are MAC schools not 120ish?
was referring to DII and FCS schools with that part of my comment not MAC schools. For MAC schools see the "120ish" portion of the comment.
anything else I need to clarify from those 25 words?
i think a guy named griese was a walk on. but he was probably promised a scholarship at later year if he earned it. i would bet my life he was offered several D1 scholarships from good programs.
I can honestly say that I have no idea, maybe someone like Magnus or ToB would know? Unless you are just mocking me, I can't really tell.
Brady is that you? I believe Tom Brady yeah that Tom Brady was a walk on. Go figure
informative link: not about Tom Brady
i think a guy named griese was a walk on.
It's the meme that won't die. Once again, Griese was a regular recruit who committed after we'd run out of scholarships. Moeller promised him one as soon as one opened up, and one did that fall.
I agree with regard to Kovacs, but Moundros starting pushes my panic buttons because this is his first year playing defense.
...Kovacs over former ND 4 star commit Harrison Smith who will start for ND this year...just sayin.
Of course we are pissed that guys like Turner, Williams, Emilien are big time recruits and not panning out. Nobody blames Kovacs for that.
It doesn't sound horrible for Emelien so far from the trickle of news we get out of camp. Wait a couple weeks before you deem the kid a failure.
This is only Emilien's second year on campus and he was still recovering from a knee injury last year. I think it's a little early to label him a bust.
85 scholarships to give out, it kind of is. Its great for the player, but more often than not it really doesn't bode well for the team.
I think that people make the assumption walkons rarely turn out to be very good starters. Had a classmate who played O line for Purdue tell me that some of the teams best players are walkons/former.
Anyway you look at it, Kovacs and Moundros are high effort/talented/ and overall good football players.
MGoShoe got it. Not that we don't like Kovacs but the assumption that because he or Moundros starts we are doomed.
i don't begrudge any walk on working their tail off to earn a starting spot. however, it's possible that we could have 3 walk ons (or former walk ons) starting on D. that's disturbing to me. add to the fact the several highly rated players who have failed or yet to prove themselves ahead of these walk ons is also disturbing to me. there' s no getting around the fact that the coaches have misfired on their player analyses or have yet to "coach up" the talent they have. they better coach em up this year.
I was really ticked a couple of years ago when Blair White from MSU was carving up our secondary. A WALK-ON? But it turns out he was a good player. You just never know. Don't forget that Rich Rod was a walk-on, so I imagine he's not afraid to start one.
Just so I'm clear on this, you're not mad that the defense is expected to struggle, instead you're mad that people are expecting the defense to struggle because there is a walk-on (who has earned a scholarship, as noted) starting? I think I see your point of view, but there's a subtle difference and I'm not entirely sure that I understand. I think your point about a walk-on outworking scholarship players is valid, but I think you should remember that he's won a starting job at a position of particularly shallow depth. If a walk-on had beaten out all of your scholarship RBs or WRs, I think that would be a hell of a lot more concerning.
I'm definitely more upset that our highly rated players haven't panned out.
However, this "He doesn't suck just because he's a walk-on" crap is a bit ridiculous. The bottom line is that our defense was horrible last year and probably will be again this year. It's not entirely coincidental that Kovacs (a starter) is a former walk-on and the defense sucks overall. Better, more athletic safeties would be able to make plays that Kovacs can't.
Good for Kovacs. He works hard, he's pretty good for a former walk-on, and I want him to be as successful as possible. However, that doesn't change the fact that I want someone just as fundamentally sound but more athletic to beat him out ASAP.
the coaching up of those more athletic players on the roster. RR's job security is dependent on the GERG. i hope he's up to the task.
I can't decide if Kovacs is a born again walk-on or a recovering walk-on. Either way, I have a dream that starters on our D are judged not by the # of stars on their profile but on their conduct on the gridiron. I hold these truths to be self evident.
he get's a pass on the freshman mistakes (being out of position on Darius Willis' 85 yard TD run)...but not on the lack of speed to catch his fellow freshman.
I think it's funny that a lot of people hold Vladimir Emilien's lack of speed responsibile for Carlos Brown's long TD run in the 2009 spring game . . . but they gloss over the fact that Kovacs had a good angle on Darius Willis and went from about 1 yard behind him to about 6 yards behind. Willis is no slouch in the speed department, but Kovacs had an angle and still got torched. I can't blame Michigan fans if they're not excited about having that kind of speed at safety for the next three years.
Kovacs has a role on this team, but I hope we have a better answer at safety.
I hope he turns into such a beast that they make a movie about his career.
Vlad or Mike, please step it up and win the spot.
Vlad is playing free safety, and Mike Williams is playing Spur.
Kovacs is playing Bandit.
Shag your mom or something? You seem to be upset by the mere mention of him.
I have a hard time believing anyone on this blog is very sincere with all this Kovacs love. Rather I think it is people just trying to convince themselves things aren't that bad.
No one here dislikes Kovaks, it is the fact that he is potentially going to start (a former walk-on) on the U of M defense. For anyone who follows football this is cause for concern. Kovacs simply doesn't have the athletic ability to perform the way UM need him to. Is there theie best option as of now? Perhaps. Is this cause for concern? Definitely.
If anyone can sit here and say that they are thrilled we have Kovacs as our clear starting Bandit for this season instead of say, someone far more athletic, I would say they are borderline insane.
I love Kovacs but I would prefer to have a better option at his position. Sorry.
it seemed this was as good a spot as any to post this - we have a very good set of walk-ons making some noise on offense as well. really pushing the team to be better by playing great in practice while some of the scholarship guys have been banged up... definitely worth noting