Yesterday's ESPNrecruiting chat

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
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Yesterday's ESPNrecruiting chat

So on WolverineNations' recruiting chat yesterday, there were more than a few people who tried comparing Treadwell to the Diamond situation yesterday.  Tom vehemently denied this twice, his last response looking like this:

Bobby (Detroit)



 

The Treadwell/Diamond comparison isn't too bad looking at it from a high level, you hear the "oh he's almost a lock for UM" for so long, then boom. hopefully a boom in the other direction though this time.

Tom VanHaaren
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Yeah, but a closer view I'm telling you is not the same. Trust me. 

 

 

Cryptic TomVH?

My 2 cents is that Treadwell knows he wants to commit but is playing the numbers game.  He wants to take visits but he can't once he commits.  He knows there are 2 open spots and no rush to commit unless one fills up.

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:04 PM | Seatbelts remain fastened. (Score:0 Redundant)
July 10th, 2012 at 2:06 PM | That's intriguing (Score:0 Normal)
July 10th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | I believe (Score:1 Normal)
pkatz
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you are confusing the details with the Garnett recruitment, not Diamond 

July 10th, 2012 at 2:09 PM | Diamond committed to Auburn, (Score:2 Normal)
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Diamond committed to Auburn, it is Garnett that is going to Stanford.

“What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve and those who stay will be champions.” - Bo 

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | Stanford? LOL. Tom doesn't (Score:-1 Flamebait)
July 10th, 2012 at 2:25 PM | "Tom doesn't know more than (Score:5 Normal)
Magnus
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"Tom doesn't know more than he's telling."

It's very impressive that you know exactly what's inside TomVH's head.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

July 10th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | Since Twitter is the conduit (Score:5 Normal)
jg2112
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Since Twitter is the conduit to a person's mind, Tom is thinking about babbies, cake, and Shane Morris.

Not in that order.

July 10th, 2012 at 3:57 PM | Being TomVH??? (Score:5 Normal)
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Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica

July 10th, 2012 at 3:31 PM | BrainVH (Score:4 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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It can't be too much different than this.  Magnus, do I win something?

Brain VH

 

July 10th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | I'll give you a shoulder rub. (Score:4 Normal)
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I'll give you a shoulder rub.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

July 10th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | You are all correct (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm an idiot.

 

Silver lining, I don't know THAT much about 18 years olds??

 

Samsonite!  WAYY Off!!

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:07 PM | Treadwell has also been told by the coaches (Score:2 Normal)
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that a spot will be held for him.  

So if you are a 17 year old stud football player, and have a spot reserved for you at the university you are almost set on verballing to, wouldn't you take a few visits to other schools and enjoy the opportunity to get wined and dined (eh, maybe no wine)?

July 10th, 2012 at 2:17 PM | Are you sure the coaches told (Score:1 Normal)
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Are you sure the coaches told him a spot will be held for him? If so, can you link that please?

July 10th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | I remember in one of the (Score:2 Normal)
greenwood
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I remember in one of the recruiting updates, Treadwell has said that the coaches said they will hold a spot for him. If that security is still in place, maybe he knows he won't miss out on a spot and will take the remainder of his visits.

July 10th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | Can you link that one for me (Score:1 Normal)
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Can you link that one for me please? If that were the case, I wonder why the coaches continue to send out offers to wide receivers and host them on summer visits.

July 10th, 2012 at 3:45 PM | Link? (Score:4 Normal)
LSA Aught One
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Link:

http://mgoblog.com/content/friday-recruitin-accelerates-timetable

July 10th, 2012 at 2:29 PM | The irony of this post is (Score:5 Normal)
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The irony of this post is appalling.  You made a factual statement above regarding something you can't possibly know, and then you criticize someone else for making a similarly presumptuous comment.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

July 10th, 2012 at 2:34 PM | Yawn. (Score:-1 Overrated)
July 10th, 2012 at 4:56 PM | similarly yawn inducing: the (Score:5 Normal)
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similarly yawn inducing: the highly-predictable, highly-sensative anti-magnus brigade that shows up after every one of his posts

shrim

July 10th, 2012 at 2:38 PM | Why do you constantly feel (Score:0 Normal)
July 10th, 2012 at 3:27 PM | I don't like reading B.S. (Score:4 Normal)
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I don't like reading B.S.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

July 10th, 2012 at 2:35 PM | Not sure, but see the comment in the body of the link (Score:1)
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that was attributed to Treadwell regarding the "saved" receiver spot...

http://mgoblog.com/category/tags/thaddeus-snodgrass-0

 

July 10th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | Exactly (Score:5 Normal)
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Who could resist a trip to... Norman, Oklahoma.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

July 10th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | OR... (Score:2 Normal)
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Stillwater?!

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:31 PM | On Gameday???? Not too many (Score:2 Normal)
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On Gameday???? Not too many I'd think, both are pretty good college towns with fantastic crowds and gameday experiences even given the unexciting surroundings of the rest of the state.  

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

July 10th, 2012 at 2:42 PM | Stillwater is a pretty cool (Score:2)
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Stillwater is a pretty cool college town, actually.

July 10th, 2012 at 2:50 PM | I was going to say "for the girls" (Score:3 Normal)
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But yeah, the googlesphere isn't exactly a great selling point. I mean you can always find some...

http://s2.guyism.com/up/2011/11/sexy-Oklahoma-State-girl.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/gENxVTfXsZ8QPEGIjRSh8nCrmWEoRc5J3Ta9zlyVrEG559tsdEfomJfnAy6qvjRmZWzzgwQM83TkQCZIAXgeNPspfLOUcWrJ/oklahoma_girls.jpg

But it's not exactly pages of pages like Arizona State or something...

Maybe he saw this and thought it was the norm-

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4R0zvrVAoXw/TsX4l1gJ-hI/AAAAAAAAAdo/72tfK7e_K-8/s1600/oklahoma-state-university-cowboys-cheerleaders-38.jpg

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July 10th, 2012 at 4:15 PM | As a guy who has spent a (Score:1)
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As a guy who has spent a little time in Stillwater I would say there are some pretty darn looking good women there. If I was a star athlete I wouldn't mind taking a visit there to enjoy the "talent".

Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.

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July 10th, 2012 at 5:53 PM | Agreed, there are a lot of (Score:1)
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Agreed, there are a lot of really nice looking young women in that town and they all like to hit the town as dolled up as anything.  It's a great place to go girl-watching, not as good for picking up, I usually had to pretend I was a student there in order to get anywhere.

Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought.  It always defeats order because it is better organized. 

July 10th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | That 3rd picture... (Score:1)
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Hilarious.

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July 10th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | In Oklahoma, not Arizona, (Score:1)
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In Oklahoma, not Arizona, what does it matter?

 

July 10th, 2012 at 3:37 PM | I've never gotten this thought process... (Score:4 Normal)
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It's not like Ann Arbor is Southern Cal, Clearwater, Charlotte or Annapolis...I lived there for 14 years. It's a college town that's a half hour away from a struggling major city.

UofM is UofMn, and Ann Arbor is nice...but it's not for everyone and it's not the best thing ever. The fact that people talk down on other college towns has always made me scratch my head. Since when did A2 become so amazing that you'd be an idiot not to live there?

There are plenty of reasons to choose Michigan, and Ann Arbor is one of them...but it's not head and shoulders above every other college town no matter who is being the judge.

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July 10th, 2012 at 3:56 PM | I get what you're saying, but (Score:4 Normal)
Needs
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I get what you're saying, but Clearwater?

July 11th, 2012 at 11:55 AM | lol (Score:2 Normal)
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It's a nice beach, no? Clearwater, Tampa, Sand Key, Siesta Key...they've got nice beaches.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

July 10th, 2012 at 2:47 PM | I'm gonna whine and dine (Score:-1 Flamebait)
July 10th, 2012 at 4:36 PM | wined. . . (Score:1)
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in the dancehall sense, my friend. I don't think these kids know Chateau Neuf du Pape from dog poop. 

July 10th, 2012 at 2:14 PM | With two spots, (Score:1 Normal)
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with two spots left, I can't help but wonder why we gave one spot to a long snapper. I know, shouldn't question the coaches. 

July 10th, 2012 at 2:19 PM | Because the coaches have (Score:4 Normal)
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Because the coaches have filled all of the spots needed at each position, and they needed a long snapper because their 2012 candidate was taken away by Michigan State?

You cannot just hand out scholarships to the best available players without also considering current roster spots and future needs, and obviously a long snapper was on the "needs" list for Michigan in the 2013 class.

July 10th, 2012 at 2:20 PM | Agreed (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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Otherwise we would have 14 offensive linemen at this point.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

July 10th, 2012 at 4:17 PM | and 7 LB's (Score:2 Normal)
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and 7 LB's

                                          

July 10th, 2012 at 2:47 PM | Because what makes you think (Score:1 Normal)
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We're going to have more than 2 take at any cost blue chippers commit to us at this point still? We might be lucky with one.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

July 10th, 2012 at 2:24 PM | I don't know why everyone (Score:2 Normal)
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I don't know why everyone always gets so pessimistic.  He stated that Michigan was # 1 then he stated that they were the clear cut leader, but he wanted to take visits to ensure that he was going to Michigan.

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July 10th, 2012 at 2:54 PM | Perhaps, with almost all the (Score:2)
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Perhaps, with almost all the spots filled, those that obsess about recruiting can focus their obsession inordinately on one uncommitted recruit?

July 10th, 2012 at 3:24 PM | Ummmmmm.... Am I the only one (Score:3 Normal)
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Ummmmmm....

Am I the only one who thought Tom's statement was referring to allegations that Diamond wanted more than a full ride to Auburn? I've seen this alluded to numerous times by people more knowledgeable than myself. I know some fans get all upset when somebody brings this up, but the way he phrased it seemed to be about something a little more secretive than just comparing the two guys' timelines.

I mean, I don't see this as Diamond-like anyway. Diamond never really got anywhere near as close to committing as Treadwell is. He extended his recruitment past signing day. He ventured to every imagineable team across the country. Regardless of the benefits discussion, I don't see Treadwell as Diamond-like AT ALL.

July 10th, 2012 at 3:40 PM | Yes, you are the only one who (Score:-1 Normal)
July 10th, 2012 at 3:41 PM | Treadwell (Score:5 Normal)
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is a 17/18 year old kid who is going to make the biggest decision in his life to date.  If he takes a little longer to decide, I am okay with it.  I would rather him be 100% blue when he commits rather than decommit weeks later.

July 10th, 2012 at 4:00 PM | At this point it seems like (Score:5 Normal)
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At this point it seems like Treadwell is 90% Michigan and is just trying to find something he might like better. I mean, he's been up to A2 how many times? None to Oklahoma as far as I know. It's tough to tell what a place is going to be like if you've never visited.

Personally I don't think OU or OSU have what Treadwell's looking for. Not going to find a coach out there like Hoke, not going to find a better/tighter class of recruits, and especially isn't going to find a Shane Morris.

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July 10th, 2012 at 4:26 PM | I'd take the visits (Score:2)
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simply because I've never been to Oklahoma.  I would also visit New Mexico, Oregon and Washington.  After that, I only have to go Alaska to finish the 50.  Of course, I would likely have a better shot of being recruited by Alaska.

July 10th, 2012 at 4:50 PM | Having experienced some (Score:0 Flamebait)
July 10th, 2012 at 5:49 PM | Those are the worst.  I used (Score:1)
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Those are the worst.  I used to sweat off about ten pounds every summer when I lived there.  It'd be pretty tough to get me to go back there in the summer.  That wind just turns the entire state into a hairdryer.

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