Yahoo Sports posts Reggie Bush Documents

yahoo sports has lead the charge, those documents have been up since 2008 it looks like, so I don't think a retraction would be anything to worry about.

Hahaha. Michael Moore could do a documentary on cannibalism and make it seem ok with the slant/manipulation he puts on everything. Hahahaha

controls and awards the Heisman. It would be up to it.

The Heisman isn't sanctioned by the NCAA, so he wouldn't be forced to give it up by them

Edit - beaten to the punch!

that only the Downtown Athletic Club can retract the award itself. They might, but even OJ is still listed as a winner, so it seems unlikely.

The physical trophy can be forfeited in civil situations as a valuable asset (this happened to OJ after the Goldman civil suit). But I don't think Bush committed any wrongs that would give rise to that kind of liability.

sadly I don't think so. Bush's settlement with New Era, the guys he accepted the house from, included some type of gag and the NCAA doesn't have the subpeona power to make them talk to them.

That would be the pot calling the kettle black.

I think the hearings going on now are set up with the intent to show that USC organized all this. If nothing else, USC okayed Bush's 'Internship' with one of the agent groups pursuing him. Even allowing a student athlete into a sports agent's building is probably offense enough.

Also, they don't really have to prove that USC knew about any of it. Simply NOT being aware of it is a pretty bad thing. "Lack of Institutional Control". You need to know who is talking to your students.

Universities are required to stay on top of this stuff and are held responsible even if they didn't know what was going on. The consequences are worse when they know about violations and don't do anything about them, but should the NCAA conclude that Reggie Bush received improper benefits regardless, they will sanction USC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Methodist_University_football_scandal

The "death penalty" was literally the death of the program. The NCAA canceled all the games in the upcoming (1987) season. The program canceled all the 1988 games as well.

You've got the basic idea: players were paid to play (lots, like $25,000 to sign), the NCAA found out and put the team on probation in 1985. SMU continued to do it and got effectively kicked out of the NCAA in 1987.

So, depending on how the NCAA handles this situation, the "death penalty" is a possibility. But, since it seems like they're treating Bush and Mayo as combined violations and not "2 separate violations in 5 years", it's probably off the table.

My guess is that Carroll's resignation bought them a lighter sentence. But if the punishment is anything less than Michigan's for the Webber scandal, because it sure sounds the same

The NCAA has basically said in the past that they'll never give the death penalty again. The know that what happened to SMU was too severe.

I think it would take something substantially worse than this USC business to warrant another death penalty, though hopefully some type of severe sanction will be levied.

The NCAA - completely useless and impotent since 1905.

The "Death Penalty" is too severe and it punishes too many other people such as USC's opponents, the PAC 10, and most importantly--ESPN and the other TV networks.

Besides, two players don't make necessarily make a trend. The basketball program basically had one (albeit huge) violation and the football program is accused of not knowing about Reggie Bush's involvement with agents. There are a lot of top players involved with agents every year, regardless of what comes to light.

The "Death Penalty" would be valid say if a hypothetical school like "Michigan Agricultural College" had a system of widespread paying of recruits to attend school over a couple of year period that was (at least tacitly) approved of by the administration.

Those are my thoughts. USC probably did some bad stuff, but probably not enough to deserve to be guillatined.

They don't have to. Just proof that you didn't have proper control over who was involved with you program is plenty damning.

You'll get the hang of it. Perhaps you'll eventually get to be as snarky as some of the MGoLegends around here.

Someday, Simba, this will all be yours.

I honestly have no desire to give the NCAA the power to sanction without solid evidence. The NCAA is nuts. In short time, North Dakota would be facing the death penalty for being the Fighting Sioux.