My response would be 134 years and the only violation was for stretching to much.
Yahoo Sports: Documents, text messages reveal impermissible benefits to five SEC players
There have been allegations.
CWood comes to mind.
Granted, I'm old, but I lived in Squad freshman year and interacted/partied with several players that had NFL careers...
They had lots of Michigan athletic clothing.
They had some pizza coupons and blimpy coupons.
If they were getting cash payments, they were cheap fu*kers because they kept coming over and eating our Gumby pizza and Touchdown 15 cent wings without pitching in most times. Also, they kept hanging out in our rooms to play Sega, Nintendo, and watch TV.
By no means were they rolling around in $
At the same time as Woodson, he actually got caught and had to sit out the first chunk of the 1998 season for taking money from a wannabe agent (the same stuff as is going on here, which to me is much different from SMU or the Miami/Ok.State allegations where the school itself and boosters are the ones providing benefits).
Woodson was tied to a super shady agent (who had loads of SEC clients as well, including Stephen Davis from Auburn/Redskins) that he signed with immediately after the Rose Bowl. He and others ended up taking the dude to court a few years later, since it turns out agents who will buy your signature while risking your college eligibility don't often have your best financial interests at heart.
Whenever I hear of these improprieties I picture Rick James grinding his muddy boots on the suede couch of the NCAA and laughing manically. Not sure why but its funny.
The distinguishing difference between this and Oklahoma State is that in OSU's case, at least one coach, and however many school employees (re: the grades and tutoring) were involved in the alleged violations.
Here, you have outside agents paying athletes, according to what's alleged, and there isn't evidence at this point that the school was directly involved or had the dreaded "lack of institutional control."
This is sure looking like some very dirty business is going to come out. It should be obvious that we are seeing a tiny part of the tip of a very ugly iceberg.
Tyler Bray - still screwing with UT even when he's no longer on the field.
But seriously, this will lead to absolutely nothing. Unless Nick Saban and Les Miles are on video giving bags of cash to players while hookers pleasure underage recruits, I'm doubting the NCAA even bats an eye. And yeah this is pretty graphic, but at this point the NCAA has shown itself to be one of the most spineless "oversight" organizations in America.
It'll be some minor, 1 game suspension-type stuff. Maybe you'll see a scholarship reduction of 1 or 2 for a year and some lower-level admin or coach will get canned. But I'm not suspecting we'll see any widespread sanction like we saw with PSU or even OSU.
The NCAA isn't spineless, they don't have subpoena power. This is the reason Manziel got .5 game punishment.
Everyone says they don't have subpeona power as if they have to bring sanctions before a court of law. Yes, some players and former associates don't want to talk; so be it. They can still put pressure on institutions to punish coaches and players, and what we saw with Manziel was as much the NCAA settling because they didn't have the resources or desire to truly dig that much deeper. The institutions punished can obviously appeal both internally as well as, I suspect, outside arbiters one federal frounds like anti-trust, but just because people aren't willing to talk doesn't mean the NCAA can't punish people based on evidence that would not meet proper evidentiary thresholds in a court of law.
It's a shame they don't simply have a policy that says if you don't speak, we'll just believe everything we hear. But I doubt the heavyweight member schools would sign off on such a policy.
When all of the Div 1 (yeah, I still call it D1) schools are being investigated at the same time, I guess the NCAA will finally change what they are doing. Until then, I'm watching D3 football, there's no cheating...wait, what's that? Mount Union. Wisconsin Whitewater. Crap. Well, then I'm watching D2 football from now on, wait, what's that? Youngstown State? Really. Crap. I'm watching high school footall from now on, they certainly wouldn't cheat in high school where they teach integrity, honor...what? Seriously? There too? Crap.
Meanwhile at the NCAA:
Cotton, I'm shocked.
And that's fine. The NCAA always looks foolish when it tries to retroactively strip championships – in this case, Alabama's. D.J. Fluker won championships at Alabama the previous two seasons.
It's(sic) looks even worse when it argues that something horrible occurred if a kid such as D.J. Fluker, who grew up poor even before Hurricane Katrina left him homeless and sleeping in a car with four others, actually accepted some of the money that just about everyone was willing to throw at him because they've defined his worth as far greater than just tuition, room and board.
It starts to have a different feel when you see that. I don't know the whole story, so if that's made up well color me fooled.
So, was it against the rules what he did? Sure. Is it morally right that these guys can be homeless while the people making money of them are living like kings and queens, I'm not so sure. Would most of us do the same thing in the same situation? I don't know. I'm lucky enough to never have faced anything like this. But I would hazard a guess that we would be accepting that cash immediately.
...ND 2012 National Champs