Yahoo! Sports’ All-Big Ten Team

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:32 PM
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Yahoo! Sports’ All-Big Ten Team

FIRST TEAM

  • F JaJuan Johnson, Purdue, senior
  • F Jon Leuer, Wisconsin, senior
  • C Jared Sullinger, Ohio State, freshman
  • G E’Twaun Moore, Purdue, senior
  • G Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin, junior

SECOND TEAM

  • F Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota, junior
  • G Talor Battle, Penn State, senior
  • G David Lighty, Ohio State,senior
  • G Kalin Lucas, Michigan State, senior
  • G Darius Morris, Michigan, sophomore

THIRD TEAM

  • F Draymond Green, Michigan State, junior
  • F Christian Watford, Indiana, sophomore
  • G William Buford, Ohio State, junior
  • G Demetri McCamey, Illinois, senior
  • G John Shurna, Northwestern, junior

Player of the year: Jared Sullinger, Ohio State

Coach of the year: Matt Painter, Purdue

Freshman of the year: Aaron Craft, Ohio State

Newcomer of the year: Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota

Defensive player of the year: David Lighty, Ohio State

Sixth man of the year: Brandon Paul, Illinois

Most improved: Jeff Brooks, Penn State

Most underrated: Lewis Jackson, Purdue

  • Can't argue with Morris not being higher than 2nd team.. 
  • Craft as FOY?
 
 
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 Player
Team
GP
M
A
FG%
 
M
A
3PT%
 
M
A
FT%
 
OFF
DEF
REB
 
AST
TO
STL
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 Tim Hardaway Jr.
Michigan
30 
4.5
10.7
41.9
 
2.2
5.9
37.5
 
2.5
3.3
74.7
 
0.8
3.1
3.9
 
1.7
1.3
1.0
0.2
1.8
13.6
 
 Jordan Morgan
Michigan
30 
4.1
6.5
62.2
 
0.0
0.0
 
 
1.3
2.3
57.4
 
2.2
3.4
5.6
 
0.5
1.6
0.6
0.5
3.2
9.4
 
 Aaron Craft
Ohio St.
29 
2.3
4.9
47.5
 
0.8
2.0
38.6
 
1.8
2.3
76.1
 
0.3
2.3
2.7
 
4.6
2.3
2.0
0.1
2.8
7.1
 

I'll give him the nod over Morgan, but over THJ?

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All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:34 PM | Is Sullinger not allowed to (Score:1)
Braylon 5 Hour ...
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Is Sullinger not allowed to win freshman of the year if he wins Player of the Year? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJnKm6ftPu0&feature=related

March 1st, 2011 at 2:43 PM | I'm hoping that's the (Score:1)
wlubd
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I'm hoping that's the rationale because it just seems too dumb of a mistake to make otherwise.

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:43 PM | I am assuming.... (Score:1)
Bosch
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for Yahoo's sake, that they wanted to spread out the accolades. 

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

March 1st, 2011 at 4:12 PM | if by spread out you mean (Score:1)
Maizeforlife
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if by spread out you mean give more players on the same team awards, then yes.  I see it as them just trying to reward OSU as much as possible so it doesn't look like all of their success is the result of a one-and-done player like sullinger. 

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:44 PM | I suppose Yahoo wants Ohio (Score:1)
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I suppose Yahoo wants Ohio State, just like Charlie Sheen, to be bi-winners...

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:37 PM | The fact that Sullinger is (Score:1)
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The fact that Sullinger is the Yahoo POY but not the Freshman of the Year is mind bottling.

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

March 1st, 2011 at 2:39 PM | Yahoo Sports already has a counter-piece up (Score:1)
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=rivals-1194831

 

content from Chris Balas and TheWolverine.com, but still right there.

This is home...

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March 1st, 2011 at 3:19 PM | Thanks for adding this link.... (Score:1)
Bosch
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It specifcally addresses not awarding Sullinger the FOY and questions giving it to Craft over THJ.

All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.

March 1st, 2011 at 2:44 PM | THJ vs Craft (Score:1)
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I would take Craft.  Their Offensive Ratings are almost identical.  Craft plays a more important position and, at least in my opinion, plays better defense.

March 1st, 2011 at 3:17 PM | Hardaway's usage rate is far higher though (Score:1)
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doesn't that have meaningful value?

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

March 1st, 2011 at 2:45 PM | - (Score:1)
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The only reason I can see that THJ got snubbed in favor of Aaron Craft is how THJ played for the first half or so of the season. He wasn't terrible, but his stats weren't eye-popping either. But still...and there must be a rule that POY can't win freshman of the year, otherwise that is just backwards.

I would even consider putting JaJuan Johnson above Sullinger and maybe even Taylor. I guess I haven't watched enough of all three to compare in a fair light though, what are your guys' takes?

 

March 1st, 2011 at 2:48 PM | This list is stupid (Score:1)
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I really don't have a problem with the teams, but how can the player of the year in the conference, who also is a freshman, not be freshman of the year.  It's like in football when the offensive player of the year, who also plays QB, isn't an all conference QB.  Oh, wait...

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March 1st, 2011 at 2:56 PM | I agree.  Seems dumb that a (Score:1)
bronxblue
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I agree.  Seems dumb that a guy could eb the POY but not the freshman as well.  Ah well - nice to see Morris get some love.

March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 PM | Craft vs THJ (Score:1)
Mat
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Craft has far better efficiency, more assists and more steals.  Obviously their roles are very differnet, so a statistical comparison doesn't tell you much.  Shot attempts and steals - Apples and oranges.

Doesn't seem like a great injustice to me.  A supporting player on the #1 team vs a high scorer on a 500 team.  Subjective call, especially since TH has changed from an inefficient volume shooter to a star over the last few games.

March 1st, 2011 at 3:17 PM | Please Review (Score:1)
Ziff72
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I think you might want to revise your "inefficient volume shooter" note.  This was from the Front Page today

Hardaway's stats are now gross. In his last five games he's made 60% of his threes. Okay, that's a hot streak. It's more than that: since January 9th he's pulled his eFG% up from 42% to 52%. In that stretch of 14 games he's made 48% of his threes. Even if you chuck out the last five games in the other nine he's hit 42%. Over essentially half of Michigan's season—the tough half—Hardaway is hitting half his threes.

 

Bonus thought: Shouldn't these lists be for Big Ten play only?   THJ should have made 3rd team.

 

March 1st, 2011 at 3:19 PM | I like how Yahoo protects its (Score:1)
MH20
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I like how Yahoo protects its "featured" writers from having a comments section attached to their posts.  Their lowly blog writers get reamed into the next century, but dudes like Jason King and Dan Wetzel get to write willynilly without getting to see their shit flamed.

Not that it really matters anyway, it's just something I noticed.

P.S.  Frosh of the year must have been awarded based on who has the rosiest cheeks.

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:14 PM | No Most Improved Award for (Score:1)
jmblue
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No Most Improved Award for Morris?  

March 1st, 2011 at 4:27 PM | Yeah, Brooks didn't go from (Score:1)
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Yeah, Brooks didn't go from scoring four points a game to being second team all-B1G (or so yahoo says), and improving to about 15 PPG while leading the B1G in assists.

He should be strongly considered for most improved nationally.

Maize n Brew

March 1st, 2011 at 4:25 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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All conference teams that couldn't take the floor (four guards and a small forward?) annoy me. Do it by position.

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:28 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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And McCamey's lackadaisical ass getting recognized for anything is a joke. He's been benched three times this year. Take Lewis Jackson or Craft as your third PG.

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:35 PM | Since they aren't going strictly by position (Score:1)
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how about THJr for that third-team spot?

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:38 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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I'd take him over Shurna, Watford, and McCamey, sure. Those three have combined for four minutes of respectable defense all year. The dude clearly looked only at scoring. How else could you possibly nominate Watford.

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:47 PM | Hardaway hasn't been great on (Score:1)
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Hardaway hasn't been great on defense, but he's improved a lot. I'm sure that not much thought was put into this list; preseason stars like McCamey are getting on with their name and reputation alone.

Maize n Brew

March 1st, 2011 at 4:54 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Agreed. He's not great, but there is a vast gulf between "not great" and "Watford and Shurna".

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March 1st, 2011 at 4:35 PM | Sorry for volume posting (Score:1)
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I don't have a HUGE issue with Craft getting recognition over Hardaway. Hardaway is a clearly superior scorer and probably has more upside on the whole, but Craft is probably the premier Defensive PG in the conference, and a valuable facilitator on the best team in the

Conference. I think he'll always be a bit of a role player, but he's been very effective, albeit in a different role than THJ.



That said, not just giving it to Sullinger makes my brain hurt.

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