Well, to each their own I suppose.
landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Well, to each their own I suppose.
If I'm going to plan an expensive last minute trip to a bowl game, it better be a big game. This is not. Also a rare late December weekend where the Friday before and the Monday after are work days for many of us.
Plus StubHub drives ticket prices way down.
Everyone is saving money for that stellar home lineup we have next year. App State will be so fun!
PSU under DA LIGHTS BABY!
on the field. I hate to disparage the team but the games were just so hard to watch this year. Travelling to see them play just didn't seem worth it, especially with the work that I have to get done over break.
It's not just this year. I've gone to 3 bowl games, all of which were in places I'd rather not be, and we lost all of them. There's no point.
My Sugar Bowl trip was one of the best 3-day periods of my life. Wish you could've made that one.
Amazing 3 day trip! I'd do that one again in a heart beat!
The Sugar Bowl was awesome - even if we did play awful. We still won, somehow. Living in Tennessee, there is no way I'm flying to Arizona unless it's for the Fiesta Bowl.
Agree so hard. I've been searching for a reason to go back, even if it's only for a day or 2.
Maybe you're just bad luck.
Since you're staying away this year, maybe Michigan will win.
I was also out of the country and saw 0 games in 1997. (Of course, I was out of the country in 2008 and 2009, too, and that doesn't seem to have helped.)
This is my guess as we'll. I live in FL and would have (and have been the last few years) gone to the Gator, Outback, or Capital One. I think there are a lot of alumni in this state that have the same thought
Kansas State just doesn't engender much excitement for me.
for KSU. If they beat Michigan they will gain much more notoriety than Michigan beating KSU. Also, it will help with their recruiting. Up until now KSU has had to rely on JUCO players. I win over Michigan will a lot of attention from good high school players.
I suspect KSU fans will be there in great numbers.
I know the KSU players, expecially the seniors, are really geared up for this game. They've lost the three bowl games they've been to, and seem really focused on making sure this time they win.
Flights there are CRAZY expensive. I would have considered going otherwise.
I have friends in Tempe. Chance we had a shot at it early Nov. Looked at flights then and it was 750.
I would love to go and take my three kids. Too expensive for 5 people. Too far to drive. Bowl season is very unkind to those of us living in most Big 10 states.
Also, you are asking on a blog where there have been multiple threads on why, how, and when they are dropping their season tickets. No way those people are going to support the team at a bowl game, which is way more pricey than any PSD. Maybe they will save their season ticket $$ and attend next year.
I love the Phoenix area and had fun at the Sugar Bowl a couple of years back. Normally a flight to Phoenix is cheap but not around this game. When I went to the Sugar Bowl I was able to use frequent flyer miles and even buying airline tickets was not bad then (<$450).
Also I learned to never buy the University tickets for a bowl game as you can get them much cheaper through other channels. I stupidly bought Sugar Bowl tickets from Michigan and then significantly upgraded my seats for about 1/5th the price I paid for my "official" tickets from Michigan.
Doesn't seem worth the money this year. Someday we'll go no matter what the bowl game. This year we'd rather take our son back to Disney in March.
Just not worth it IMO. Would much rather watch it in the comfort of my own home. Kansas St is not a team I'd fly across the country to see us play. Especially in the Copper Bowl
Not a good bowl game. Neither team is ranked. Highly likely Michigan will be starting a true freshman at QB behind an Oline that has trouble keeping the QB clean. It's not an in-state bowl or really close. It's on Christmas holiday weekend. That should be enough reasons.
Not so sure it's "highly likely" Morris starts. I think people have been reading too much into the injury reports. I think Gardner will end up playing.
Travel all the way to Arizona to see two mediocre teams in a low tier bowl game? With airfare (for most of us) you're probably looking at a trip in the $500-1000 range to see this. Not happenin
Another data point showing that the bowl games are ho-hum and the whole system is overinflated. Nobody gives a crap about two 7-5 teams playing in the desert. Not even us
$500-1000? Ha. No way. You're looking at about $1000-2000 easily once you factor in hotels, transportation, even the cheapo tickets.
I'm surprised how little I care about this thing. I was talking to someone yesterday and they asked me who Michigan was playing. I honestly had to think about it.
After a while, you begin to realize that unless it's the Rose Bowl or one of the other BCS-tier games, or if the matchup is noteworthy or compelling (M-Nebraska in the Alamo, for instance), these things really do not matter. At all. Hell, the MDen hasn't even bothered selling more than about two pieces of bowl crap for the non-BCS games in about ten years. Used to be any old bowl game got the full merchandising, which is why our tree has a whole section of bowl ornaments. Not anymore. The novelty is gone, and full cynicism has set in.
Long story short, no one gives a crap about a bowl sponsored by chicken wings. It doesn't make you a bad fan. It merely makes you a realistic football fan in 2013.
Didn't see a BWW Bowl version of this this year. (Thank God)
To be fair, he said airfare in the $500-1000 range.
I actually was talking about the whole trip. I was figuring $400-500 in airfare plus about $500 for everything else. Bando was probably closer on his estimate
My flight, leaving from Detroit on Thursday night, and leaving Phoenix Sunday at Noon, was about 700 bucks.
I read it as 500-1000 for the trip. Including site fare.
unless it's the Rose Bowl or one of the other BCS-tier games, or if the matchup is noteworthy or compelling
I will watch this year's game, probably a DVR version (spending time in the northwoods with no satellite/cable on game day). But I'm on board with Bando. 2nd tier bowl games mean little to me. I'll cheer while watching the tape-delay version of this game, but I don't have that nervous, gut-wrenching anticipatory feeling compared to past "big" bowl appearances. This year's bowl is the equivalent of our bowl game with Miss. St. a few years back, and I can't honestly remember what bowl game that was. I wish these dreadful bowl games would just go away. The only bonus is extra organized practice time.
As others have said, it's way too expensive. Being a college student, I'm not wasting my money going down to Arizona. Even if it is to watch the Wolverines.
Otherwise I'd go.
If you want to fuck Borges, a bowl trip seems to be the perfect time. You know, being so far away from home and everything.
Bro's in different area codes.
Just be careful he doesn't go all black widow on you! I hear that's how he maintains his healthy appearance and youthful vigor.
I'll be there. We don't play on the west coast very often.
I just moved to Seattle this summer. Moving to the west coast was really healthy for my overall fandom. No more ruined days because we lost. The game's over by noon/3pm. I am still (relatively) sober, and can get over it and go do something productive.
And maybe because of that, I am not emotionally exhausted by the season and am really excited to go see my first bowl game. Got great seats on the 50yd line for a reasonable price and hotels look pretty reasonable too. So, I am leaving tomorrow and driving my way down to Tempe with the wife over the next week. Should be a fun trip!
Trust me, I'd go. But I don't have the money for tickets, flight, hotel, food/drink/gear.
I rather my first Michigan bowl game to be the Rose Bowl, anyways.
Maui with my wife in Feb. and Disney with the kids in April...no budget left for this bowl. At least I don't walk out of Disney World feeling disgusted and angry like I did on the last couple Rose Bowl trips....oh wait.
Better question: why the hell would we?
Past my bedtime.
I live in Dallas and it's too far of a drive for such a mediocre product.
I was going regardless I have friends in the area that I haven't seen in a long time. This would have made the trip justifiable.
Live in Korea
Bulgogi for all my friends...
Cause what if we lose and then explode emotions again?
I'm actually surprised that many sold for that weekend. It's all about expectations. If we were Indiana or another team that didn't make bowl games very often I imagine an even higher percentage of fans would have bought admission.
There's no such thing as an Indiana football fan in December. Only basketball fans.
but fuck that, I'd rather watch from the comforts of my recliner. I went to the '94 Holiday Bowl vs. Colo. St. and the '98 Rose Bowl, both wins, now that the B1G is affiliated with the Holiday Bowl again, I can wait to see U-M after a 9-3 or 10-2 type season here or a more successful season in the Rose Bowl if not in the 4 team playoff any particular year.
I purchased front row tickets for the bowl game after we were announced as participants. I purchased them before our "allotment" was even available. However, had I know WE would be too "unimpressed" with the "product" to bother going, I would have made sure to contribute to our allocated tickets.
We barely lost to one of the best programs in the country (OSU). We beat a team that beat MSU a week later (Notre Dame). Get over it. Go to the OSU boards, they are crowing about how great they are with all of their 5'11" burners and linebackers. We are in GREAT shape. Our OL will be a strength in the next few seasons. OSU won't have B.Miller forever and when they lose him they will be DONE. Urban Meyer brought us Tim Tebow. He has no idea how to produce NFL talent. OSU will continue to have a long line of failed QB's and pretty much every other offensive position. Look up the stats of Buckeyes in today's NFL. They are doing NOTHING. Brian Hartline is the best Buckeye on offense in today's NFL and I just heard about him last week. Urban Meyer will NEVER get an NFL job and continue to disappoint. He left Florida in shambles and lost to the 3 star general Dantonio.
Sorry but miller's backup... Guiton (no idea how to spell his name and don't really care) is possibly better than miller. I hate Osu as much as anyone but to say they're not good or are not going to be good is just moronic. I agree we will see how they do in a few years when it's all meyer's recruits, but in the mean time you don't go 24-1 without talent
Kenny Guiton is a fifth-year senior.
Guiton is a senior. If Miller leaves, they have no experience at QB.
Umm Meyer has lost 1 game in 2 years and WE are in great shape? Ok.
but I already had my flight to Michigan (from Fort Smith, AR) booked to see the Winter Classic and couldn't really change it. If not for the Winter Classic being held at Michigan Stadium, I would've flown out to just about any bowl game. Now we just have to wait and see if the Wolverines B-ball game will be at the same time as the Wolverines hockey game - right before the football game starts.
Flew into Ann Arbor for Christmas with family. Would have gone to the Detroit pizza bowl.
The idea of spending 3 months salary for one measly game is just silly. Yeah, I didn't fare so well in life.....
I did my duty and bought 3 tickets as Christmas presents for my folks and sister who reside in Phoenix. They're getting great seats. I've been to 3 bowl games-all in Florida, but just could not make it out west this year.
I went to the orange bowl in 1999 after making the mistake of not going to the rose bowl the year before.
I enjoyed it, but the next Michigan bowl I'd attend is the national championship or the Rose Bowl.
Otherwise, I'd rather go see a home game at Michigan Stadium then go on the road for a middle tier bowl game.
I actually looked into the possibility this year as I had not been to a bowl in several years now (that sort of stopped once I had kids), but for me, between the expense of getting all of us out there and then the distinct possibility that two small children will not sit through the game anyway made that seem impractical. I would go myself, but my wife actually works that weekend (and probably couldn't get coverage now) and my in-laws will be in Chicago, so no "extended child-minding", if you will - the kids are sadly a bit young for me to give them $20 for a pizza and a two liter as I leave for Arizona.
The pussification of our young most stop. You think it's wrong to give your children $20.00 for a pizza (hell for $20.00 they can get the Supreme with Xtra toppings) + not a 1 litre but 2 litre soda? A little parenting advice...go to the game and lock all doors, bar the windows, throw away the key, but first instruct you children to learn a few survival tricks.
#1) if a fire breaks out instruct them on how to spit like a gattling gun....or excuse me for being rude....pee on demand.
#2)In the advant an earthquake happens just tell them they got the A+ ticket like they give at Disney.
#3) most important, when they deliver the pizza, ask if he is a MSU Grad, then see rule #1
So go enjoy the game and take satisfation you have given your young children a "life Lesson"
I have to fly all you people around so you all can see your families so I can't see mine.
yeah, it's kind of like having a job! Were you looking for sympathy?
Yeah it is a job well not really. No I don't want sympathy. It's a bit of sarcasm....I dont care about seeing my family on December 28. I'll be drunk on a beach. That my "job" pays for.
Fly to Arizona for this game?
I haven't even committed to staying up to watch the second half.
otherwise, we would be there. I love the Tempe/Scottsdale area.
Plane tickets are ridiculous.
This seems to be one of the biggest impediments. I am going to the game, but the flights for my family of 4 are really expensive. Paid around $450 per ticket from NY. Florida would have cost half of that. Almost made me reconsider.
$650 out of DTW. The bad part, too, is that they announce them all Dec 8, and you can't even get tickets in advance...
Lots of reasons I'm not going -- too expensive, too far, mediocre opponent, mediocre bowl, frustrating offense...
If they had ended up in Florida, it would have mitigated the cost and distance issues for me and I probably would have gone.
Going, just waiting for ticket prices to drop.
The season for me ended at halftime of the MSU game. I haven't watched since. Bowl game? Nope
It's obviously your call as to how you spend your time, but to me this seems like something of a fair weather fan reaction, Basically saying I won't watch the team when it has a bad season. I found this season as infuriating as anyone, and perhaps emotionally I wrote it off as a way of dealing with all of the losing, but part of being a real fan of the team is watching th struggle through tough times. Makes the good times all that much better.
Since you're still trolling around a Michigan football forum in late Dec.
To see a headline saying major staff change is coming. It's obviously not. It's easy to open an app on a phone and it doesn't cost anything. Our lousy football team on the other hand...
time to change your sig line.
The folks who call this game meaningless will complain the loudest if we lose.
This is a misrepresentation. Browsing through the comments, I see plenty of folks who do not expect to see a good product on the field and for whom the emotional toll of watching Michigan football grew too high this season. They therefore do not see the expense of going to the bowl game as worth is. I am in that camp. But, this does not mean these folks think the bowl game is meaningless. That's an unfair characterization. A win is always meaningful, to a varying degree depending on the stakes and the opponent. What is meaningful in the comments here is the apparent level of competence to which fans hold Michigan football, the percieved level of competence displayed on the field this year, and the interrelated frustration they felt when watching Michigan football this season.
For these fans, the emotional costs have been too high to justify the expense of going to the bowl game. These fans care - a great deal, it just manifests in a different way. Yet, in a way that should be respected. What you see here is not a fans who claim not to care and then who care once the game starts. That's not what is going on at all. Its much deeper and complex than that.
This can't have been news to the Athletic Department.
It doesn't do much to support the notion that I heard from a wide variety of people that Tempe was a much more desirable location than Jacksonville. If it is, people aren't voting with their wallets.
I understand that the BWW bowl had their choice before the Gator Bowl this year, but why the Big Ten agreed to that arrangement to begin with is unfathomable to me. A 7-5 team is not the easiest thing to sell at bowl season to begin with, and when you look at the historical record of who's played in both bowls, only an idiot would deny that the Gator is a far more prestigious bowl in terms of the game competition it hosts.
Nobody cares about Kansas State, and that's irrespective of the fact that Bill Snyder has done an amazing job there. If the game was against Georgia in the Gator, the amount of interest in that matchup for Michigan fans would dwarf what we're seeing today.
This game will mean far more to Kansas State's program than it will to ours.
Thought I heard Sam Webb say the Michigan athletic department actually preferred this game? If so, that's a real head scratcher.
may offer enough of a change up to drive a higher attendance.
I understand the Florida overdose, but it seems distance/expense are trumping that. And as said, a New Year's Day bowl against a team like Georgia carries more prestige and interest.
Disclaimer, there was no chance I'd go either way. But selfishly I'd rather have a NYD game on TV versus sitting up until 2am.
Yep, he did say that, and I don't doubt that's what people in the AD told him.
From what Sam and Ira both said, the UM athletic department didn't want a bowl game involving the University of Michigan to conflict with an NHL game played in Michigan Stadium.
Apparently David Brandon believes that the overlap between the diehard Red Wings/Maple Leaf fanbase and the Michigan football fanbase is so great that it's impossible to have a game for each group occurring on the same day.
Cold War...can you link?
Yes, he said the athletic department preferred this matchup. It was said on the WTKA morning show, there's no link to an article.
I fly my family to A2 once a year for a game, but even I'm not wasting my time or money on this game.
The late start is not kid friendly either.
Well I'm going.... but I live in AZ so it was a no brainer.
Its hard to justify going to Arizona when we have such a prestigeous bowl game right in our own backyard. And what a matchup. BG/Pitt for all the Pizza! A game for the ages!
I'm actually going. Cheap tickets, make a night of it around Downtown Detroit, do a little gambling before and after.
I have gone to 4 of Motor City/ Pizza bowl games. This might be the best matchup since CMU and Purdue. Prob even better.
I'll be there cheering on my school I'll be attending next fall.
If I'm going to blow a large wad of cash, it's going to be for the Rose Bowl.
Or a hooker.
Hookers aren't as hot as you would assume they would be. (for clarification: I've seen them in Court. Hot messes.)
Bullshit. I saw a call girl on "Mad Men" and she was fine as hell.
And Julia Roberts back in the day. (If you are old enough for "pretty woman")
What are you, one of those uppity Johns who expects a full set of teeth and a clean bill of health from your prostitutes?
Yes. But I'm okay with it if the full set of teeth is hanging on a string around her neck.
If I didn't have two kids under 5, my dad didn't just have quad bypass, and if I hadn't just dropped over 30 g's to sell my old house and purchase my new one, I would love to get away with my wife to Arizona, I bet I could get free tickets right before kickoff. Either way, Go Blue!
Coincidentally, Quad Bypass was the name of the play where John Navarre caught a touchdown against Minnesota.
I hope your dad recovers nicely.
I went to the Outback and Sugar Bowls and had a great time. I'm not going to this one though and candidly never even considered going. As others have mentioned in the thread-I'm far more interested in hearing why non-Arizona residents would be going.....that seems like a more compelling question.
1991 Gator bowl agains Ole Miss. It was awesome. Good guys won, 35-3. Entire offensive line was MVP. There were holes like you wouldn't believe. Seriously, would love to see that again some day.
I remember that game. That was about as dominating a performance as I've seen Michigan turn in at a bowl game. That was pure 100% awesome.
I've been to five:
1986 Rose Bowl - Up 15-0, lose 23-15 to ASU
1997 Rose Bowl - Nuff said
2004 Rose Bowl - If Braylon doesnt drop the TD pass on the first drive I think the game turns out differently
2012 Suger Bowl - Winning ugly personified
2013 Outback Bowl - Fun, fun game. Best loss I've ever watched in person.
I second your comments concerning 2012 and 2013. Only thing I didn't like about 2013 (besides the loss, of course) was hearing all the ESS EEE SEE chants while exiting the stadium.
*1987 Rose Bowl & 1998 Rose Bowl
Ugh. I'm sorry. I hate being "that guy".
Except generally speaking I think you associate the bowl game year with the team year. You are correct, of course, on the date but I think most people put the date with the team.
At least I always have.
For me, Michigan resident, three reasons: 1) My son is a senior in the MMB and it will be his last game, and I can't imagine missing it regardless of where it is. 2) I told my son we would go to any and every bowl game while he was at Michigan, so even if he wasn't in the MMB we would have gone. 3) I would go to any Michigan bowl game, regardless of the location and opponent, if nothing else than solely to support the school and team, as long as I had the means. My frustration or lack thereof, with wins and losses, coaching, etc. is irrelevant to the decision.
Good for you dad - as a fellow father I think that is absolutely FANTASTIC and I would do exactly the same thing if I was lucky enough to have a kid get accepted at Michigan and be talented enough to play in the band.
You must be very proud. I would be.
if they were playing Georgia in the Gator Bowl on New Years Day...Talked to many UM fans who felt the same way ...but this bowl? against WHO? No way...Non new years day bowl games are a downer...sorry just the way many of us feel...Whoever thought sending Michigan to this game against a nobody school was Mistaken,,In fact I dont recall any other bowl game weve ever been in that I could care less about than this year...Team 134 needs to be forgotten and quickly
If someone wants to donate game tickets and plane tickets I'd gladly go. Not in the budget of a broke college kid
I live in GA, have season tickets and have no problem travelling. I just looked at this as time away from work to see a team which has had some piss poor games and that's mostly to blame on the coaches. I see now that Brandon will live or die with Hoke. This is a major risk and one I'm not too keen on. I'll still keep my season tickets and root for them, but I'll be very quick to pull out the bitching about Hoke and company whenever i can. This bowl game just all around sucks. There shouldn't be a bowl game for two 7 and 5 teams to play in.
20 minute drive down the 101 from my house. There are a fair number of alumni in the Valley, pretty much everyone I have talked to are going.
Not to knock KSU, but how many posts have there even been about KSU's football team? Has there been a bowl opponent in the recent history that has engendered this kind of ennui?
I'd say it's also how the regular season went this year.
You clearly haven't been visiting TTB enough. I'm offended.
I'm just lazy. It's too much work now to have to do an additional click to look at the hot chicks, so I don't visit as often.
Luckily, not being lazy is usually on everyone's New Year's Resolution list.
I just went and looked at your previews. Great stuff so far, although if Gardner doesn't play (or even if he has just a few days practicing with the team I will be worried about his effectiveness), you might need to update your review of the QBs.
K-State has that NDSU loss to open the season but after that they won the games they should have and were competitve in their losses to OU, Texas, Ok St, and Baylor. I get what you are saying though but it's the life of two 7-5 teams.
Arizona is a great place to visit but like others have said, flights are expensive, especially during the holidays. Also, the date for the BWW Bowl being so close Christmas it overlaps other holiday commitments for me that are more important.
This has been a tough year as whole for me and Michigan football. I feel like I am getting priced out at every corner and it's not because I cannot afford it but it's I just don't see value in a $95 ticket for Nebraska or $75 for Akron. That's how I feel about the bowl game. $700 for the flight isn't terrible and game tickets are cheap but I'm not paying $2000 for a bowl game to see two unranked, 7-5 teams fight it out for the championship of mediocracy. Again, there is no value.
Visiting some of my wife's family in San Diego. So I will be joining some of them at the Holiday Bowl. I will unfortunately miss BWW Bowl since they are both on at the same time. I will be looking at the scoreboard constantly to see if they show the score. The Holiday Bowl shoul to be a good gamewit Texas Tech vs Arizona State. I'm not sure which I will be rooting for though. I probably cheer for whoever the inlaws do.
Better husband than fan. Shame
read a lot of these comments. I get that it's an expensive trip and the opponent isn't sexy. Still, how can a fan not be invested enough in the farewells to a guy like Lewan or the guts of Gardner who left it all on the field his last game to skip the snark? How can a fan not think of the pledges of a guy like Peppers and not at least pay lip service to the traditions and goals of the program?
I can, but that doesn't put an extra grand in my pocket.
Lip service to the tradition and goals of the program? Tradition is not playing KANSAS STATE in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl for one. That shouldn't be a goal either. And I highly doubt whether Lewan gives half a shit how many sweaty forty year old men are living vicariously through him. I'm not dropping $2,000 and a bunch of vacation days to see Michigan play in a worthless bowl against a lackluster opponent just to make some players feel better. I hate this bullshit: "you're not a fan if you don't spend $1,000 minimum a year at Dave Brandon's MDen and support every single thing about the team without question or complaint." This team and Athletic Department have raised a lot of questions in many people's minds and it's about time they reaped what they've sown.
Holy shit Crootin that was perfect. Fantastic response.
the point. Odd for a person of your apparent standards of excellence.
Actually he got the point and just stuck it in your bottom. Fan isn't an achievement you unlock by dropping so many dollars to support a business.
I would love to go. But it's simply not in the budget for me this year.
I've been to a bowl once in my life. I want to go, but it's hard to make happen.
My only bowl experience was the 78th Rose Bowl in 1992. We lost but it was wonderful!
I am driving from LA, and I got my tix on stubhub, so I don't know if it would count against the UM allotment. Buying tix through mgoblue.com doesn't let you see where the seats are...just the price level. So, for an extra $15, I got tix on stubhub and picked out my seats. Not saying it's a big game, but there are little things the school could do (like let you pick your seats!!!) to increase that ticket count.
...and nothing is better than Scottsdale in the winter...but I personally have no desire to see Michigan play Kansas State in a BWW Bowl Game...so I get the disinterest. It is just not a sexy match-up or bowl.
Team we play, where we play. I will never go to a lower tier bowl game unless it's in my area.
Because we are playing in the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl.
But I might have gone and made into a golf/football get away.
It doesn't surprise me that people aren't going. If you wanted a kick in the soul dong, you can just stay local and watch the Lions. Way cheaper.
I'm going. It's a short 6 hour drive for me. Clearly, I'd rather go to the Rose Bowl, but I'm die hard and I love me some Michigan football.
Crappy Bowl. Crappy Opponent. Crappy Date. Crappy Start Time. The real question is why are 5500 people going? I expected more like 55. After shelling out $4200 for my season tickets, I'll stay at home and watch this embarrassment for free. And if we win, that Crappy Trophy better not see the light of day in Schembechler Hall. Embarrassment to the program. And it only gets worse with the new bowl tie-ins starting next year. Better get this program back to where it belongs. Fast.
Who are we playing and where?
Considering your lack of knowledge about who Michigan is playing, perhaps you should remove the "we" from your question and simply ask where Michigan's team is playing. You are clearly not a part of the equation.
Other than go to the Copper Bowl? I mean at least if the bowl game is in Florida, you've got the ocean...
Scottsdale is full of resorts, golfing, shopping and great restaurants. Camelback Mountain Recreation Area has great hiking. The Grand Canyon is 3 1/2 hours away (maybe a little chilly up there). So yes, their is a lot to do in the Tempe area.
The date of the game is a problem - it's too close to Christmas and we're talking about three weeks' notice to make this trip. If it were on New Year's, it'd probably be easier for people to travel.
I have only been to one bowl game, the Rose Bowl on January 1, 1998. I pretty much can't top that experience.
'98 Rose Bowl was my only bowl game.
I was single then. I'm married now. That pretty much settles it for any future bowl games...
I went to the Y2K Orange Bowl and the 2004 Rose Bowl (2003 season). By far, the best experience of any road game I've ever had was the Rose Bowl, despite losing to USC.
I'm just going to be bunkered down here in Iowa, on the live blog, getting hammered and alienating the house packed with family visiting. I checked air fare just now, and it is $1K R/T from Des Moines to PHX on Southwest...grim. I would have a free place to stay because my sister/bro-in-law have a place in Scottsdale, but I can't squeeze anything out of my budget this late notice (read, lack of strategic planning).
To make up for my lack of participation in the bowl game, I am saving for the Final Four ;)
Honestly, its just not worth the money to go to this game. It sounds bad, but its true. At least from my perspective, any BCS bowl is worth going to and a few others. Going to bowl games costs me a lot of money since I don't live anywhere near them, so I have to pick and choose which ones I want to go to, and this one just isn't one that is worth going to.
Are you...taking a facile survey for an oblivious athletic department?
The team is 7-5, has a losing conference record, finished second to last in our division, and came very close to actually not even qualifying for a bowl game with close scrapes against Akron, UConn, and Northwestern.
Meanwhile, the University is gouging season ticket holders while offering poor schedules with inconsistent efforts on the field.
If you're going to the bowl game, that's awesome. Great weather, should be a good game, and I'm hoping for a dominating M performance to take us into 2014.
However, most teams with the issues this program currently faces don't have fan bases battling to follow them across the country. That's just reality.
as soon as Lewan dumped that Pig. Did anyone else notice that? What was his name? Dr. Othello?
I believe it was Dr. Hamlet III.
For the cost of airfare, hotel, game tickets, plus other entertainment, you could just about buy a season ticket at Michigan Stadium. Perhaps Brandon will take notice of the lessened enthusaism here, even if it hasn't trickled down to Michigan Stadium yet.
Going to bowl games has always been a somewhat expensive proposition in total. What's changed is that the cost of season tickets has risen so dramatically over the past decade that an average fan might start having to make a cold calculation of what he can afford beyond the cost of season tix. For those fans who aren't suite occupants in David Brandon's tax bracket, going to bowl games other than marquee matchups in upper-tier games could drop off the radar.
If you're going to take one and only one vacation, you can currently fly to the Cayman Islands for about a hundred bucks less per person than Phoenix (leaving from Detroit). If we're talking Pasadena or maybe the Orange Bowl or Sugar Bowl that's one thing, but BWW Bowl vs. scuba diving and bikinis? I know where I'd be.
I'm still recovering from the Sugar Bowl. Damn hand grenades and stuff
Too much money to spend, with the kids. Too much money to spend just for myself. Would have gone if in Florida . . . Driveable and Beaches. 2 advantages over Arizona.
to see this matchup. Michigan is mediocre and quite frankly, not that exciting to watch this season. I'm having a hard time adjusting back to manball in general. KSU is mediocre. I hate traveling during the holidays. I'd rather stay home and fall asleep during halftime on my couch. Man, am I a curmudgeon or what?!
I have never gone to a bowl game so I shouldn't talk, but the fact it is not really near anything of interest to me, right after Christmas, and still really expensive for what will be a pretty mediocre experience, kind of makes it difficult for me to justify flying out there.
My wife would go to indulge me if it was the Rose Bowl, but my son would just not enjoy it (he's five). So, cash in spouse points and lots of cash to go by myself, or watch on TV and play Legos with my boy? Easy choice.
Michigan has been in for the past 40 years (since I've been a fan).
but raise you one Bluebonnet bowl, circa 1981. We were preseason #1 and went 8-3. Can you imagine the meltdown had there been the Internet?? Also, Bluebonnet bowl stupid for name alone.
Now they are ~800 each just for flight. It's a week away so they will be high but have always been high. A cheaper flight and I would go. It's not that I just would have to pay a flight for myself but also for another person and talk a couple friends into paying that much to go.
Got to support the team. Taking my 7 year old son. Got hi-fives and fist pumps when I announced the ticket purchase.
BUFFALO HAVE NO WINGS!