WVU vs Oregon in BCS Championship?
October 7th, 2012 at 6:42 AM ^
if they are in defeated of course they get in.... You just wanted to create something on the board..
October 7th, 2012 at 6:43 AM ^
I meant undefeated
October 7th, 2012 at 9:49 AM ^
That helps, but did you really mean to say "Duh"?
October 7th, 2012 at 10:09 AM ^
He meant Unduhfeated...
October 7th, 2012 at 6:47 AM ^
At this point, I have little faith in WVUs defense, they haven't looked very steady in their last couple games. Their offense is great, and will put up a ton of points, but I think their defense is a big liability, and will cost them a game or two. As for Oregon, they've looked very solid so far on both sides of the ball.
As the saying goes, "Offense wins games, defense wins championships".
(Also, screw this 'SEC only-title game'. It was a fluke that it happened once, I'd be shocked if the NCAA would let it happen again—the ratings were terrible and the intrest outside of the south east was completely absent. If it happens this year, I'll eat a lemon.)
October 7th, 2012 at 7:01 AM ^
You want about their defense... As long as they're out scoring their opponents, they will win ball games. It may not be the conventional way, but it doesn't matter how you get it done if you get it done.
October 7th, 2012 at 6:48 AM ^
The SEC is weaker than the experts think. Bama should easily go undefeated and be in the ship against Oregon or West Va. Even if Bama somehow stumbled along the way, the "strength" of having one loss going through an SEC season will still put them in the ship like it did last year.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:02 AM ^
Yes, one of these two teams won't get in. A one loss SEC champ will probably get more love than an undefeated WVU team in particular. An undefeated SEC champ will definitely get more love.
Too early in the season to worry about this, though.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:02 AM ^
Bull. If Bama has 1 loss and Oregon and WVU are both undefeated, they will be in the championship. Both voters and computers would knock them down past 2 if Alabama lost a game.
October 7th, 2012 at 2:21 PM ^
we don't really know what will happen yet as it is too soon in the season.
I personally doubt WVU gets in over a one loss SEC champ - the SEC just has developed too much credibility as a power conference over the last decade. This is not to say that I wouldn't want to see the bloodbath of a WVU-Oregon matchup where the score is 146-146 going into overtime.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:01 AM ^
We've seen two undefeated teams battle it out in the NC game at least twice before - Texas and Alabama in 2010 and Oregon and Aurburn in 2011 (also, there have been a few occasions where one of the teams involved was undeafeted, of course). Even though those games involved SEC teams, the precedent exists. I will add, however, that I think the chances of Alabama going undefeated are probably better than West Virginia's just looking at their remaining schedule and the relative competency of their defenses. I could see WVU losing one (possibly two) of theirs along the way.
Granted, the Week 8 BCS Standings and the rankings come December could look radically different too - that's happened before as well.
October 7th, 2012 at 11:03 AM ^
Alabama is not FSU but that team is still pretty good and Gould not have been upset by NCSU IMO.
Point being any team, even Bama, could be upset.
October 7th, 2012 at 3:53 PM ^
I think everyone was just waiting for FSU to be "upset", because no one thought they were as good as their rankings.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:14 AM ^
After you take bama out, the Sec is pretty weak this year, IMO
October 7th, 2012 at 7:39 AM ^
seen weakness in the cocks!
October 7th, 2012 at 8:02 AM ^
Except they almost lost to Vanderbilt...
October 7th, 2012 at 10:24 AM ^
First game of the year, at Vandy, at night, against a conference opponent (we all know how crazy conference games can be). Granted both teams had all off-season to prepare for that game I think Vandy REALLY wanted that game whereas SC was so so about it being Vandy.
The people here in Nashville were jacked up for that game, much more so than all the games thereafter this year.
If you throw the high and the low out...this game gets the low throw out.
Every team will almost lose to a team they shouldn't along the way, that's the beauty of college football. (I'm sure Michigan fans know this point all too well over the years!)
October 7th, 2012 at 11:19 AM ^
And we almost lost to Air Force. Are we really gonna count off games as "proof" of why teams suck? I mean South Carolina just destroyed Georgia, who is a Top-15 team at worst, but SC sucks because they struggled in 1 game against Vandy?
October 7th, 2012 at 3:55 PM ^
He responded to someone who said they saw no weakness with a weakness they've shown. Great teams have weaknesses, and pointing out a good team's vulnerability doesn't mean you're saying they suck.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:10 AM ^
I believe that is what she said.
/I'm twelve
October 7th, 2012 at 7:34 AM ^
Fla. St. is out after doing their annual choke job.Had a easy route to the ship and blew it.
October 7th, 2012 at 7:39 AM ^
Hey don't forget Rutgers !!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 7th, 2012 at 8:09 AM ^
Fatcats. Nothing says, "I hate my body," like 2000 calories of fried food smothered in marinara and cheese.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:42 AM ^
They have a 0% chance of making the title game
October 7th, 2012 at 8:07 AM ^
You'd see as many people betting the over/under on total points as betting on who would win.
I'll predict Oregon 84-77 in a defensive slugfest, with neither team punting even once.
Which makes me wonder if fewer points will be scored in the NC basketball game.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:09 AM ^
The only team in the SEC that would deserve the 1-loss SEC treatment is Alabama. Georgia was destroyed by an above-average-but-not-great SC team, Florida mucked its way past an overrated LSU team, and neither of those two winners do I see going undefeated. And if WVU and Oregon go undefeated, they'll have wins over highly-regarded USC, Stanford, Oregon St., Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, K St., etc. This isn't a Boise St. situation where they will have played three legit teams all year.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:11 AM ^
If this happened, and Bama or SC was undefeated or had one loss, I could see the South leaving the Union in protest. Wait, I really hope this does happen now.
#civilwarhumor
October 7th, 2012 at 8:12 AM ^
Alabama has a week off and all of a sudden it is assumed that they will lose one? I just don't see Alabama losing before the championship game.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:14 AM ^
Alabama is not losing a game this year. Their defense is simply too good. I do have them beating Oregon in the title game though.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:28 AM ^
South Carolina looks good this year
October 7th, 2012 at 10:25 AM ^
The only game I could see them screwing up is @LSU. At this point LSU doesn't look that great, but playing in Death Valley is never easy.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:52 AM ^
They are @ LSU next week and @Florida the week after. I hope they lose to LSU and beat FLA.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:23 AM ^
If SC loses a game, but beats Bama in the SEC championship, and WVU and Oregon run the table, then maybe the voters go for the two undefeateds.
October 7th, 2012 at 8:58 AM ^
I would not bet 2 dollars on WVU goes undefeated. Oregon looks good.
My prediction: Oregon-Alabama
October 7th, 2012 at 8:59 AM ^
no way.. West Virgina has no defense they basically have to score on every poss.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:06 AM ^
And they do. Their opponents need to score every possession just to keep up.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:21 AM ^
Texas is over rated and WVU would get curbstomped by Oregon or Alabama. Michigan would beat WVU and we are average. If we hadn't played Alabama we would be over rated at 10, because the ND game was so close.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:06 AM ^
Bama has loopholed and cheated its way into becoming a de facto, one-team NFL Development League. I don't see anyone beating them. The SEC has Bama, a step down to South Carolina, and a bunch of teams that aren't appreciably better than the Big Ten, Pac 12, or Big 12.
Oregon should make it to the BCS "Championship" game, and WVU could of Oregon falters, but I don't see both making it.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:14 AM ^
Oregon and WVU both get in ahead of a 1-loss sec team because both comferences are quality enoough. The B1G, ACC and other lesser rans would not. I agree with others that WVU isn't going to go through undefeated. I think things will be more shaken up with either Oregon or Alabama losing even though they both look way better than the rest.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:18 AM ^
Oregon zero loss = in the championship
Alabama zero loss = in the championship
SEC champion zero loss = in the championship
WVA zero loss = championship dependent upon other factors, most notably Oregon. Oregon zero loss trumps WVA zero loss if SEC is the other side of the NC pairing.
Outlier in this discussion is Notre Dame ... undefeated ND is going to get love they don't deserve, given their schedule. Undefeated ND will be in championship just because (sadly) they're ND.
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I like WVA ... I like Geno Smith (seems a smart, humble young man) ... I like the "story" this year with their move to the Big 12 and their desire to prove themselves. Their defense is suspect. The win over Texas was nice because it was gritty ... they hung tough and won.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:26 AM ^
OU looked ordinary but they have been good at home. ND is not going to go undefeated.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:32 AM ^
They are ripe to be beaten. Probably this weekend against Stanford
October 7th, 2012 at 10:49 AM ^
Notre Dame will not go undefeated, and even if they did, they would get destroyed by Alabama in the title game.
October 7th, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^
but I don't think WVU will go unbeaten. They still have to play very capable of beating them teams: TCU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Oklahoma and even Iowa State. WVU's tough games are all ahead of them and to this point it really could be strongly argued WVU has played only one good defensive team yet. That defense held them to 31 points .
TOTAL DEFENSE RANK THROUGH 10-6
Marshall: #105
James Madison: FCS
Maryland: #7
Baylor: #120
Texas: #74 thats with shutout to their credit
Four of five of the best defense WVU will see on their schedule are still ahead of them, I think someone will get them,
October 7th, 2012 at 10:27 AM ^
...is going to beat Alabama?
October 7th, 2012 at 10:49 AM ^
only have a couple what I would call 'tough' games left and probably a couple faux tough games.
@ Missouri
@ Tennessee
Mississippi State
@ LSU
Texas A&M
Western Carolina
Auburn
It will probably take a 3 or 4 turnover performance by Bama for any of these teams to beat them. I wouldn't be shocked if LSU won though, surprised but not shocked.
Then we're left with the SEC title game. South Carolina, Florida and Geogia are the most likely opponent and non of those strike me as Bama killers.
October 7th, 2012 at 12:09 PM ^
Hang on. Bama misses SC, Georgia, AND Florida this year? With the way Arkansas has collapsed and LSU doesn't look like the same team, if Bama loses their conference championship game, why are they automatically in the title game? How is that a difficult schedule? Just because they are in the SEC doesn't mean they should get a free pass. They miss 3 of the 4 best teams! MSU and Tenn are the only other half decent teams they play all year (besides us, hopefully).
October 7th, 2012 at 10:32 AM ^
I don't see anyone going Undefeated this year. The most dominate teams to date seem to be Oregon and Alabama, but both have flaws and tough tests ahead. A one loss team on the climb still with big match-ups and a chance to impress voters..... USC.
October 7th, 2012 at 10:50 AM ^
Alabama has flaws?