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WVU vs Oregon in BCS Championship?
It would be interesting to see what two teams would be selected to play for the BCS Championship if Oregon and WVU finish the season undefeated. Would one of them be left out in favor of a one loss SEC champion? The SEC has four legitimate top 10 teams, and a couple of legit top 20 teams. They have also won the last six national championships. Personally, I would love to see someone beat the SEC champion to win the BCS. However, I think WVU and Oregon would get the nod over a one loss SEC team. What do you think?
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October 7th, 2012 at 6:42 AM | Duh (Score:-1 Trolling)
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if they are in defeated of course they get in.... You just wanted to create something on the board..

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October 7th, 2012 at 6:43 AM | Ooooops (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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I meant undefeated

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:49 AM | That helps, but did you (Score:5 Normal)
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That helps, but did you really mean to say "Duh"?

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:09 AM | He meant Unduhfeated... (Score:5 Normal)
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He meant Unduhfeated...

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October 7th, 2012 at 6:47 AM | At this point, I have little (Score:5 Normal)
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At this point, I have little faith in WVUs defense, they haven't looked very steady in their last couple games.  Their offense is great, and will put up a ton of points, but I think their defense is a big liability, and will cost them a game or two.  As for Oregon, they've looked very solid so far on both sides of the ball.

As the saying goes, "Offense wins games, defense wins championships".

 

(Also, screw this 'SEC only-title game'.  It was a fluke that it happened once, I'd be shocked if the NCAA would let it happen again—the ratings were terrible and the intrest outside of the south east was completely absent.  If it happens this year, I'll eat a lemon.)

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October 7th, 2012 at 6:48 AM | Bama? (Score:4 Normal)
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The SEC is weaker than the experts think. Bama should easily go undefeated and be in the ship against Oregon or West Va. Even if Bama somehow stumbled along the way, the "strength" of having one loss going through an SEC season will still put them in the ship like it did last year.

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:02 AM | I'll bite (Score:4 Normal)
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Yes, one of these two teams won't get in. A one loss SEC champ will probably get more love than an undefeated WVU team in particular. An undefeated SEC champ will definitely get more love.

Too early in the season to worry about this, though.

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:02 AM | Bull. If Bama has 1 loss and (Score:2 Normal)
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Bull. If Bama has 1 loss and Oregon and WVU are both undefeated, they will be in the championship. Both voters and computers would knock them down past 2 if Alabama lost a game.

Ghosts are scary.

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October 7th, 2012 at 2:21 PM | That's the beauty of it (Score:2)
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we don't really know what will happen yet as it is too soon in the season.

I personally doubt WVU gets in over a one loss SEC champ - the SEC just has developed too much credibility as a power conference over the last decade. This is not to say that I wouldn't want to see the bloodbath of a WVU-Oregon matchup where the score is 146-146 going into overtime.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:01 AM | I Don't Know... (Score:2)
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We've seen two undefeated teams battle it out in the NC game at least twice before - Texas and Alabama in 2010 and Oregon and Aurburn in 2011 (also, there have been a few occasions where one of the teams involved was undeafeted, of course). Even though those games involved SEC teams, the precedent exists. I will add, however, that I think the chances of Alabama going undefeated are probably better than West Virginia's just looking at their remaining schedule and the relative competency of their defenses. I could see WVU losing one (possibly two) of theirs along the way.

Granted, the Week 8 BCS Standings and the rankings come December could look radically different too - that's happened before as well. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 11:03 AM | Alabama is not FSU but that (Score:2)
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Alabama is not FSU but that team is still pretty good and Gould not have been upset by NCSU IMO.

Point being any team, even Bama, could be upset.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:53 PM | Really? (Score:2)
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I think everyone was just waiting for FSU to be "upset", because no one thought they were as good as their rankings.

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:14 AM | After you take bama out, the (Score:5 Normal)
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After you take bama out, the Sec is pretty weak this year, IMO

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:39 AM | I have not (Score:0 Flamebait)
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seen weakness in the cocks!

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:02 AM | Except they almost lost to (Score:4 Normal)
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Except they almost lost to Vanderbilt...

Ghosts are scary.

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:24 AM | May not be a good barometer (Score:1)
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First game of the year, at Vandy, at night, against a conference opponent (we all know how crazy conference games can be).  Granted both teams had all off-season to prepare for that game I think Vandy REALLY wanted that game whereas SC was so so about it being Vandy.

The people here in Nashville were jacked up for that game, much more so than all the games thereafter this year.

If you throw the high and the low out...this game gets the low throw out.

Every team will almost lose to a team they shouldn't along the way, that's the beauty of college football. (I'm sure Michigan fans know this point all too well over the years!)

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October 7th, 2012 at 11:19 AM | And we almost lost to Air (Score:2 Normal)
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And we almost lost to Air Force. Are we really gonna count off games as "proof" of why teams suck? I mean South Carolina just destroyed Georgia, who is a Top-15 team at worst, but SC sucks because they struggled in 1 game against Vandy?

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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October 7th, 2012 at 3:55 PM | He didn't say they suck. (Score:2)
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He responded to someone who said they saw no weakness with a weakness they've shown. Great teams have weaknesses, and pointing out a good team's vulnerability doesn't mean you're saying they suck.

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:10 AM | That (Score:5 Normal)
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I believe that is what she said.





/I'm twelve

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:34 AM | Seminoles out. (Score:1)
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Fla. St. is out after doing their annual choke job.Had a easy route to the ship and blew it.

If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!

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October 7th, 2012 at 7:39 AM | Hey don't forget Rutgers (Score:2)
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Hey don't forget Rutgers !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:09 AM | I miss (Score:1 Offtopic)
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Fatcats. Nothing says, "I hate my body," like 2000 calories of fried food smothered in marinara and cheese.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:42 AM | I am forgetting Rutgers (Score:2)
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They have a 0% chance of making the title game

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:07 AM | One thing's for sure— if it was WVU vs OR in the NC (Score:2)
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You'd see as many people betting the over/under on total points as betting on who would win.

I'll predict Oregon 84-77 in a defensive slugfest, with neither team punting even once.

Which makes me wonder if fewer points will be scored in the NC basketball game.


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October 7th, 2012 at 8:09 AM | The only team in the SEC that (Score:2 Normal)
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The only team in the SEC that would deserve the 1-loss SEC treatment is Alabama.  Georgia was destroyed by an above-average-but-not-great SC team, Florida mucked its way past an overrated LSU team, and neither of those two winners do I see going undefeated.  And if WVU and Oregon go undefeated, they'll have wins over highly-regarded USC, Stanford, Oregon St., Washington, Texas, Oklahoma, K St., etc.  This isn't a Boise St. situation where they will have played three legit teams all year. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:11 AM | If this happened, and Bama or (Score:5 Normal)
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If this happened, and Bama or SC was undefeated or had one loss, I could see the South leaving the Union in protest. Wait, I really hope this does happen now.

 

#civilwarhumor

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:12 AM | What??? (Score:1)
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Alabama has a week off and all of a sudden it is assumed that they will lose one?  I just don't see Alabama losing before the championship game.

I do not mean to pry, but you don't by any chance happen to have six fingers on your right hand?

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:14 AM | Alabama is not losing a game (Score:1 Normal)
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Alabama is not losing a game this year. Their defense is simply too good. I do have them beating Oregon in the title game though.

All in for some manball.

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:28 AM | South Carolina looks good (Score:1 Normal)
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South Carolina looks good this year

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:25 AM | The only game I could see (Score:1)
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The only game I could see them screwing up is @LSU. At this point LSU doesn't look that great, but playing in Death Valley is never easy.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:52 AM | sc has a brutal schedule (Score:1)
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They are @ LSU next week and @Florida the week after. I hope they lose to LSU and beat FLA.

- The Team, The Team, The Team.

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:23 AM | There's the angle (Score:1)
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If SC loses a game, but beats Bama in the SEC championship, and WVU and Oregon run the table, then maybe the voters go for the two undefeateds.

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:58 AM | No way WVU would go undefeated. (Score:2 Insightful)
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I would not bet 2 dollars on WVU goes undefeated. Oregon looks good.

My prediction: Oregon-Alabama

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October 7th, 2012 at 8:59 AM | no way.. West Virgina has no (Score:1)
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no way.. West Virgina has no defense they basically have to score on every poss. 

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:06 AM | And they do. (Score:2)
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And they do. Their opponents need to score every possession just to keep up.

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:07 AM | Game plan for WVU opponents = win the coin flip (Score:3 Funny)
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October 7th, 2012 at 9:06 AM | Bama (Score:2 Normal)
Tater
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Bama has loopholed and cheated its way into becoming a de facto, one-team NFL Development League.  I don't see anyone beating them.  The SEC has Bama, a step down to South Carolina, and a bunch of teams that aren't appreciably better than the Big Ten, Pac 12, or Big 12.  

Oregon should make it to the BCS "Championship" game, and WVU could of Oregon falters, but I don't see both making it.  

 

 

 

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:14 AM | Oregon and WVU both get in (Score:2)
m1jjb00
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Oregon and WVU both get in ahead of a 1-loss sec team because both comferences are quality enoough. The B1G, ACC and other lesser rans would not. I agree with others that WVU isn't going to go through undefeated. I think things will be more shaken up with either Oregon or Alabama losing even though they both look way better than the rest.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:18 AM | Oregon zero loss = in the (Score:2)
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Oregon zero loss = in the championship

Alabama zero loss = in the championship

SEC champion zero loss = in the championship

WVA zero loss = championship dependent upon other factors, most notably Oregon.  Oregon zero loss trumps WVA zero loss if SEC is the other side of the NC pairing.

Outlier in this discussion is Notre Dame ... undefeated ND is going to get love they don't deserve, given their schedule.  Undefeated ND will be in championship just because (sadly) they're ND.

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I like WVA ... I like Geno Smith (seems a smart, humble young man) ... I like the "story" this year with their move to the Big 12 and their desire to prove themselves.  Their defense is suspect.  The win over Texas was nice because it was gritty ... they hung tough and won.

 

 

Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:26 AM | ND will have to travel to OU and USC for two road games (Score:1)
brooktrail
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OU looked ordinary but they have been good at home. ND is not going to go undefeated.

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:32 AM | Don't sweat ND (Score:1)
Drbogue
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They are ripe to be beaten. Probably this weekend against Stanford

In Hoke we trust...

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:49 AM | Notre Dame will not go (Score:1)
russale2012
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Notre Dame will not go undefeated, and even if they did, they would get destroyed by Alabama in the title game.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:57 AM | Its a great thought (Score:1)
BlueinLansing
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but I don't think WVU will go unbeaten.  They still have to play very capable of beating them teams:  TCU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Oklahoma and even Iowa State.   WVU's tough games are all ahead of them and to this point it really could be strongly argued WVU has played only one good defensive team yet.  That defense held them to 31 points  .

TOTAL DEFENSE RANK THROUGH 10-6

 

Marshall:  #105

 

James Madison:  FCS

 

Maryland:  #7

 

Baylor:  #120

 

Texas: #74  thats with shutout to their credit

 

Four of five of the best defense WVU will see on their schedule are still ahead of them, I think someone will get them,

 

 

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:27 AM | Who in the SEC, pray tell... (Score:1)
Eye of the Tiger
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...is going to beat Alabama? 

When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -Bo

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:49 AM | well they really (Score:1)
BlueinLansing
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only have a couple what I would call 'tough' games left and probably a couple faux tough games.

@ Missouri

@ Tennessee

Mississippi State

@ LSU

Texas A&M

Western Carolina

Auburn

 

It will probably take a 3 or 4 turnover performance by Bama for any of these teams to beat them.  I wouldn't be shocked if LSU won though, surprised but not shocked. 

 

Then we're left with the SEC title game.   South Carolina, Florida and Geogia are the most likely opponent and non of those strike me as  Bama killers.

 

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October 7th, 2012 at 12:09 PM | Hang on. Bama misses SC, (Score:1)
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Hang on. Bama misses SC, Georgia, AND Florida this year? With the way Arkansas has collapsed and LSU doesn't look like the same team, if Bama loses their conference championship game, why are they automatically in the title game? How is that a difficult schedule? Just because they are in the SEC doesn't mean they should get a free pass. They miss 3 of the 4 best teams! MSU and Tenn are the only other half decent teams they play all year (besides us, hopefully).

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:32 AM | I don't see anyone going (Score:1)
BumpNRun
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I don't see anyone going Undefeated this year. The most dominate teams to date seem to be Oregon and Alabama, but both have flaws and tough tests ahead. A one loss team on the climb still with big match-ups and a chance to impress voters..... USC.

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October 7th, 2012 at 10:50 AM | Alabama has flaws? (Score:1)
russale2012
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Alabama has flaws?

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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October 7th, 2012 at 11:23 AM | Bama has no weaknesses i know of (Score:1)
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Yea the only thing anyone could have possibly nit picked about Bama before the season is lack of experience. I believe that can now be tossed out the window. They're young, talented, and have experience/leadership at all the right positions to run the table again.

If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!

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October 7th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | All it takes are a couple of (Score:0 Overrated)
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All it takes are a couple of key injuries and Alabama could end up with one or two losses.  The season is long and shit does happen.

There are no corners in space.

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