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I just wanna see us control the LOS. We get no push and that leads to LBs getting hemmed up.
Yeah. The minute Lloyd left our defense sucked because his shitty recruiting classes from 2005-2007 didn't do anything to fill the void left from the earlier classes that led to the great 2006 defense. Yeah, our shitty D coaching didn't help things over the last three years, but it's just amazing to me how people can scratch their heads and go "Wha Happen?"
Few people realize that we're still working with a class and a half of Lloyd's recruits. Blaming him for a mediocre finish in that area is still somewhat fair. (Overall, obviously, he was a very good recruiter. Look at '03 and '04, among other years.)
Similarly, in a couple of years, if not now, people will justifiably point to the smoking hole that is the '09 recruiting class in defense. Some of RichRod's decisions will haunt the program for a few more years.
this seems like a completely reasonable thread to me. i mean in my mind one of the worst defenses in the entire nation last year should definitely be turned around into a complete powerhouse by game 3 next year. /s
wake up the defense is a work in progress, it is still not good. it has improved in terms of in game adjustments, turnovers and tackling in my eyes. the defense will struggle though game in and game out and will probably eventually cost us a game or two sometime this season. if your expectations were for something different than that, then you just weren't in tune with the reality of the situation.
we had one of the worst defenses in the nation last year, how much do you think could happen in a handful of months??
Stick to the positives, Mattison is a Genius, Martin and Kovas are studs, it isn't pretty, but hey they have made some big plays this year already, causing turnovers in games 1 & 2 and kept emu out of the endzone, held them to one field goal.
Calm down, maybe you have been living under a rock but have you seen the 2012 recruiting class?? ... Its good.
held to under 90 yards in the last 3 quarters and held to 3 points in the whole game and you're still complaining. Your pointless banter reminds me of my sister; who is a little bitch.
I think if it were a shutout, this guy would be crying and whining that it wasn't a pretty enough shutout. Kind of like the LSU fans that are always bitching that their ten win seasons are too ugly.
BTW Joey, I think I married your sister. Why don't you ever visit ? ? ?
Last time we held an opponent to 3 points or less was the shut out of Notre Dame back in 2007.
Have there been a lot more sacks and TFLs this season? I hardly remember any last season, except for that sack of the Illinois QB in the triple OT victory. I think I've seen better fundamentals, too. Maybe better coaching, or maybe the defense has grown up a little, or both. I don't have the stats; that's just my gut feeling.
Giving up 3 points for the game=suckage? This bizarro land? The D made adjustments, they make stops when they have to, and make way more plays than the past three years.
Watched the replay of the defense for most of the first quarter. Two things of note:
1) Eastern's line is pretty good. On one 22 yard run, they bent Campbell backwards. Their line blocks well.
2) Our tackling is much improved. There are no metaphors which truly describe how bad last year's tackling was. But think about it. How often is our defense out of position or unable to make one-on-one tackles? This year that is not the issue. Our secondary might get beat. Our line might get blocked. But we don't miss tackles. That's a vast improvement.
All in all, the improvement continues. Now off to watch MSU-ND
Agreed. Rome wasn't built in a day. But the improvement in the defense now from the GERG era is night/day. And BWC made some pretty good plays today. Secondary will be tested next week against SDSU though, since Eastern hardly ever passed.
The defense will be fine. You can only expect so much improvement in one spring and fall camp from one of the worst Ds in the country last year. The same kids are showing that they seem to understand what they are being taught alot better than previous years. For the most part they are getting better as the game goes on which is a positive.
It's very obvious by watching the EMU qb and RB continually turn the corner or counter, that our team speed at the DE and LB position is atrocious. There is only so much coaches can do when having no outside presence. With that being said, think our DBs have shown significant improvement.
Like everyone else has said, are defense adjusted well and showed improvement, granted it was a Mac team but it's better then what we showed last year against umass. The one thing I will say is we were damn lucky not to be down inthat game 14 to 21-0. Gotta have better starts or the better teams will jump on us
It needs a lot of work. As a number of folks have said here, the fundamentals (tackling, number of blown assignments) are much better. We don't have speed on the edges in the front seven. That's not the current staff's coaching.
Keep in mind the defense has had to be taught fundamentals. GRob and Rich Rod did a horrible job with the defense. I think they have improved tremendously from last year and are getting better each game. The in game adjustments have been excellent along with the lack of penalties. The most notable observation I have is that after 3 years of hoping for a big play from the defense, I wonder where is the next one coming from.
We all know our Defense will be a work in progress. I see much improvement compared to last year. I hope Denard can become a threat throwing the ball, so our running game can have success come Big 10 time.
I have seen more defensive pressure in the underware football league on mtv, and they have to play three yards off the line.
Carr's fault? At first, yes. Rich Rod did nothing to help things, and it appears Hoke isn't doing much, either.
Ok, I feel like this needs to be said. Yes, our defense is better than last year's defense. When you return 10 starters and all the freshmen and sophomores get a year older and most of your 2 deep are back, your defense should and will get better. The coaches are doing a great job, but this defense was going to get better regardless.
It seems obvious to me that the coaches knew that the best way to find out where exactly they are with these kids is to test them in combat, if you will. To that end, yes, it will look a bit flat early because they are trying to find the right personnel for the schemes they want to run. It certainly looked a bit flat in the first quarter today, but the more tweaks they made, the better it became and the more Michigan-like we looked. They're learning, but the point is that it looks vastly improved in comparison to the GERG era, but it still has much room for improvement. Thus far, with very little game data to use, mind you, I like this trend.
It's going to take a few more years before Greg can develop a great Michigan defense. I'm not happy about smaller O-lines pushing around our D-line, but hopefully that can improve through the season and the front 4 can start getting some type of pressure on opposing QB's.
My concern is how slow the offense takes to get on track. It's going to be very important for the offense to start clicking and scoring more points. I have hopes the D will improve through the season but to win half our B1G games we are going to need an explosive offense!
While it makes sense that they would improve, RR and GERG achieved some amazing levels of futility.....so we'll never know.
I've said this countless times, but what makes our defense different?
If ND scores 21 points in the first half against Michigan State, it's because their offense is high powered and Michigan state has a REALLY good defense with tons of playmakers.
If we hold ND to 17 points in the first half despite them having the ball for 3x as long as us, we have a terrible defense.
Where does this discrepancy come from?
If Mississippi state allows Auburn to rack up 500 yards of offense on them, nobody cares! In fact, they continue to say Miss. State has a great defense.
If Michigan allows ND to rack up 500 yards of offense, it automatically leads to everyone in the stadium screaming "F---!" and going all emo and bitching and moaning.
This is a new year. A new scheme. We're here to win. And if you want to keep complaining, then you're better off not being a fan.
I think the main thing we have to work on is being multiple enough to stop the scripted plays that other teams will run. The commentators were saying that the first 15 plays that EMU ran were uncharacteristic of their offense so we need to work on better defending scripted plays.
The biggest and most promising thing I've seen is adjustments. I'd much rather have an iffy 1st quarter and get things right for the rest of the game than have a good 1st quarter and have attrocious 2nd and 3rd quarters like RR's teams.
Also, don't forget Roh has been hampered by an illness that has apparently left him drained. Looks like he's on the way back seeing his performance today. If we beat San Diego State I wouldn't be surprised if we go into EL 6-0.
They came out and loaded the offensive line with 6 and 7 OL"s. They broke some of their tendencies early and confused the defense. Once we figured out what was going on we pretty much shut them down. Kudo's to the EMU staff and ours.