writing style of front page content

Submitted by karpodiem on

has anyone else decreased mgoblog consumption due to the strange writing style of front page content? Beyonce? Oklahoma? Really? Why is this necessary? And this seems to be the normal style for front page content for the last year or so.

Yes, it's February and this is traditionally a slower time of year (hey, basketball!) But in the history of my site patronage, my perception is that the front page content has become increasingly more difficult to read with numerous bizarre allusions. 

And I'm aware that posting this on the board for people who still read the site more frequently will probably generate a chilly response, but I'm ok with that. Just wondering if there are people still lurking around that feel the same way.

uminks

February 24th, 2013 at 9:34 PM ^

I was lurking and reading articles well before I joined. I have to admit I use to come here for the front page but during the past couple of years the front page quality had declined somewhat  Now when I first enter mgoblog, I check out  mgoboard first, since it seems the latest breaking news is posted there first and then it makes it on to the front page. Another thing I noticed is that mgoboard content gets elevated to the front page more frequently than in the past. I'm sure Brian doesn't post as frequently as he use to post while he was single. I just  wish Brian could find another young Tom VH!

Overall, mgoblog is still one of my favorite sites on the web and I read almost every article on the site!

BiSB

February 24th, 2013 at 9:50 PM ^

If you produce the amount of content for the length of time that Brian has, some stuff is going to seem either repetitive or obscure or whatever. The majority of the stuff that he, Seth, Ace, and Heiko produce are (IMHO) substantive and interesting. But on the occasion that someone opens with a lede that I don't 'get,' I just skip it. Problem solved.

eamus_caeruli (not verified)

February 24th, 2013 at 10:48 PM ^

BiSB, you are speaking more out of loyalty (which is very noble), rather than practicality. I get so damn annoyed when people say if you don't like it, don't click a board post, come to mgoblog, etc.

Well, here is a simple question: what if people boycotted this blog for a week, a month, a year - like I did with FB? How would Brian feel about that? How would his family feel about that? This blog is free to us, but Brian and the consistent contributors are invested both emotionally and financially. We are his source code if you will. His market share... This you can have both ways argument is laughable. Simply, you can't. Either Brian's blog progresses or it dies, like "man" it-selves.

Owl

February 24th, 2013 at 11:20 PM ^

I like this idea! Why don't you boycott mgoblog? Like, forever. It is my sincerest conviction that this place will indeed improve by that action. Everyone else will join in. Honest, I swear. Don't bother checking to make sure though, because then the blog will continue to suck. Remember, you're doing it for Brian.   

M-Wolverine

February 25th, 2013 at 1:22 AM ^

I'll put this here- Everyone who's saying a crappy hockey team has reduced content generation- a crappy football team produced content left and right. Why isn't it the same for hockey? It wouldn't be as popular, but I don't get why the horrors (small "h") of one team produces stuff but not the other, when he seems about as passionate for both.

buddhafrog

February 24th, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^

Brian is an incredibly gifted writer with a truly unique style. I think he is one of the very best writers in all of sports (I'm an English writing professor so I can claim absolute authoritative knowledge on this). I will say that I am a pretty critical reader by habit/profession, so I was expecting to not like the new writers as much as I have. However, their voices have grown and I feel like they are usually quite good. It is a little hard for other writers to follow Brian. As this site has grown he likely has had other responsibilities (and possible burnout). But the single best way to make any improvement starts with Brian writing more.

Marshmallow

February 25th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^

I like Brian's and the other writers' content on this site, but many people (Brian, the writers, and the posters, i.e., everyone) sometimes use atrocious grammar.  You can be witty without relying on jargon, intentional poor grammar, etc.  An example is the use of "this" as a sort of shorthand.  The cleverness has waned, and it is definitely not proper English.

stephenrjking

February 24th, 2013 at 10:06 PM ^

Wow.

So suddenly we get a deep, long, meta state-of-the-blog discussion in February. And here I am, late to the party. Some thoughts:

1. There's a big case of "meh" that is going around and I think this is a symptom of it. I don't think that this is an issue with the writing style; I've been kinda "meh" for a few weeks, but that's because it's February, the hockey team is embarrassing and unlikeable, football is long over, and the basketball team is slogging its way toward a 2-seed after a difficult stretch of losses. Nobody is going to be excited in these circumstances.

2. This bleeds into the writing. As others have said, there just isn't a lot to talk about. The basketball team is really good, but even that gets old--many of Brian's game write-ups in December and January just became exercises in creatively saying "wow, this team is really good" over and over again. They weren't bad write-ups, but what else can you say? College basketball doesn't lend itself to titanic emotional swings and catharsis like college football does until the tournament... and that's still a month away.

And basketball is Brian's third-best sport. 

3. Seth is absolutely right about the impact the Alabama loss had on the season. Everything lost luster after that. 

4. Writing for a blog is hard. Guys like @yostbuilt and @michiganhockey have had to follow and update a hockey season that is as bad as anything that most of us have experienced in our lifetime. The team isn't just awful--it has been mostly unlikeable. There is, finally, some improvement in recent weeks, but it has been difficult to watch. And a blogger like these guys or like Brian has to write about it and follow it whether they want to or not. The rest of us can just pay less attention.

I have a lot of admiration for the guys who write on this blog. They have to produce on a regular basis, even when they don't feel like it. I write the occasional diary and if I had more time would write more... but sometimes I just don't feel like it and it doesn't matter. Nobody needs or anticipates my stuff. 

5. On a related note, those who are a bit frustrated with the content are free to write diaries themselves. Good diaries can and will be front-paged. I'm not saying this to be mean; I actually would love to see an uptick in quality diaries. There are some good ones, and I enjoy writing them, but if you ask me we've actually seen a reduction in diary quality in the last year.

A lot of that is due to BlueSeoul's career (and name) change and the subsequent disappearance of the classic Game Wraps with Pics. That's life--some people are just busy.

6. I do think there are times when guys try too hard to be creative. I've seen it in Brian occasionally, and Seth as well. It's not that creative is bad, but sometimes things are just natural and sometimes it looks like the author spent an hour and a half staring at their computer thinking "what can I do to be unique/funny/quirky." But that's the way it goes.

7. I don't think that this is a change. Check the mgohalloffame link for some of Brian's old stuff; if anything, he has gotten less quirky and more literal.

8. I love the blog and don't want it to change. One of my worries is that Brian would get burned out on it and just quit, which would be a massive, massive blow to Michigan fans everywhere. Of course, it would be his right to do so. It wouldn't surprise me if he were a bit burned out right now; hopefully a vacation and the change of seasons and the redesign will help. Of course, an exciting football season will help a lot too. 

Keep up the great work, guys. Thanks for giving me stuff to read and a place to write occasionally. I am very grateful for it.

BlueDragon

February 24th, 2013 at 10:07 PM ^

to get less filtered impressions of the news of the day. Not being able to downvote front page posts is a serious weakness that saps the interest of the reader in becoming involved in their quality.

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 24th, 2013 at 10:50 PM ^

But like, he went to the University Oklahoma...who in their right mind wouldn't put in lines from one of the most famous musicals of all time, titled the name aforementioned University.  And the other references are pretty appropos for the overall situation, not all that "far fetched" or being "forced".  I know I'm trying to explain an opinion as being fact and one really can't do that, so.

LB

February 25th, 2013 at 12:15 AM ^

were to the initial "Hello Jerry" post. They were hardly vague, they were on point. Now, I certainly won't claim to remember the entire post, but I remembered enough to smile at the references, and there was a link right there in the text. Insiderish by aim, but the audience consists of "insiders".

ChopBlock

February 24th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^

To all those giving Seth constructive criticism, I'm sort of with you. I in generally enjoy reading him. He gets into trouble, IMO, when he tries to pack too much stuff into too little space. Whenever he takes heat in the comments, it generally reveals a sensitivity to being concise. So I guess maybe the idea is to tone down the density of some of the posts; I'd rather read a feature that's a little longer but more natural to read.

Of course, I'm a pretty awful blogger (seriously; I'll never give out my blog's address on this site), so what the heck do I know?

eamus_caeruli (not verified)

February 24th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^

Holy shit balls, I finally get why this post was made. The front page post abt JM. I made my comments on that post, but I agree, this blog is coming to a paradigm shift like moment where some tough decisions will need to be made. If most read something and its so far out there where they have ask 20 questions to understand it, that will alienate a lot of people. I don't know, I am struggling with the blog. I have been an avid reader since 2007, but progress is needed.

Michigan Arrogance

February 24th, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^

I think the biggest issue boils down to one word: passion

Brian has not been posting as often and it's been hoops related, not hockey or football for all the reasons explained by others above.

there's no passion there for hoops b/c he's not passionate about it and it's a sport with enough sample size that stats can predict the game.

 

now there are other issues, like the broader reader and commenter base than when I first started reading in 2005-2006. the best part of the blog back then was the comments section (this was before the FIRST! era even: no one went after coached heads or yelled UNACCEPTABLE. Just a lot of engaging discussion on Michigan football, hockey, B10 atheltics). I mean, for fucks sake... there's so many readers we're getting nut balls who don't believe in gloabl warming and that the CDC are nothing more than 'groupthinkers.' 

not to mention, he's been doing this for 8 years now. I mean, at some point you run out of new stuff to say. he's said it all. you know his opinion of conf. realmnt, coaching searches, the role of ADs, his thoughts on MSU, OSU, etc. It's like sitcoms: after a few seasons, they've done all the crap they ever thought of, so the comedy becomes topical (eg: the Simpsons). or you bring in new characters (eg: the cosby show or married w/ children).

I don't have time to read UFRs line by line anymore, and Seths stuff has grown on me (the old Misopogan stuff was tl;dr for me). i'm not into the whole twitter thing too much, but I can see the value there. the gifs? IDK what the value is there,

Brodie

February 25th, 2013 at 1:43 AM ^

Basically. I get the sense that Brian would personally rather blog about soccer or even not blog at all than be expected to give basketball, a sport he's clearly not as interested in on a personal level, the kind of attention the team's current form demands. And that lack of passion shines through... you're never going to get an Eleven Swans or an Age of Tin or whatever about basketball on this site. 

Erik_in_Dayton

February 24th, 2013 at 10:55 PM ^

The blog is as informative as ever save the time Tom VH was here, but that was always obviously just a happy accident. Brian and Co. remain proponents of good sports values (oversigning is bad,sending sh*tty twitter messages to recruits is bad, winning at all costs is not the Michigan way, etc.) Everything else is small stuff. I don't get every reference or enjoy every meme (I don't even like the word "meme") or understand how BiSB can type since he's a golden retriever, but I'm less concerned with any of that than the fact that I just got bbq sauce on my underwear.

Phil Brickma

February 24th, 2013 at 10:58 PM ^

It takes a lot of balls for people to complain about the writing styles of a free (and fantastic) blog.

You don't like it? Fine. Move on. I think Brian and the gang are quite informative, solid writers and pretty damn funny. Constructive criticism is one thing. Bitching about how it doesn't fit your taste? Pointless and bordering on obtuse.

MaizeNBlue

February 24th, 2013 at 11:14 PM ^

To echo a poster above, I too tend to lurk and read rather than post here, but reading through this thread inspired me to reply.

In principle, what I feel is that the average post, whether front page or in the forum, has lost value. They are sometimes less interesting to read now (and I do skip some FP posts) for several reasons:

1.  Overuse/over-recycling of some memes. Yes, this is the internet and therefore memes will permeate both FP posts and forum posts, and that's fine. But there is a point where they become stale and nauseating to read, especially when there seems to be a race to be the first to post them (the "this won't end well" meme is a good example of this). In this way, the posters are as much to blame as anyone for any "staleness."

2.  Less drama overall (well, except for hockey, which hasn't been covered this year, but I'm admittedly much more of a football/basketball fan, so that doesn't kill me). What can you do, though? That's something we should be thankful for, of course -- but at least for me, not having drama to obsess over in the sports-sphere means that the time and content dedicated to those topics has to be averted elsewhere (in terms of MGoContent, that is) and sometimes those "alternative avenues" don't seem to be as riveting as the content past drama has produced.

3.  That actually makes me think of another point that is echoing others who've posted; the routine/cycled posts and rigid posting structure can slowly wear at the value of FP posts. UVs, game summaries, and weekly recruiting posts are obviously exempt from that because those contain essential information and are always well-done (and usually don't have to be "forced"). However, for non-essential but recurring posts, it seems they have stagnated the front page a bit because the actual amount of information in them varies and tends to slightly over-reference (don't get me wrong though, I'm all for referencing!) or mis-time usage of some of them. It'd be better if the writers could post a bit more free-form because they are all different and have unique styles, but confining them to a set structure dampens that a bit and creates that forced feeling.

 

All that said, I love MGoBlog and will always read, and a few ideas for how to mix it up a bit came to mind, too.

I wish that Brian and co. would bring WolverineHistorian on board! I watched M sports avidly through any media source (TV, internet, a book or two) when I was in middle and high school, which, along with MGoBlog, developed my inherent M-fanhood into an obsession, and much of what I learned came from his YouTube videos both when he was WH and when he was under the handle dynoguy88. Sorry WH, I hope you don't think it's creepy that I know that -- I'm actually the poster (or one of) who followed up to ask why you'd taken old highlight videos down before you switched to WH. Anyway, WH's video content is often linked here anyways, but I'm interested to see what his journalistic skills are, too (he's a pretty good poster when he does post, so I suppose that's a start). Someone who has made so many old highlight videos must have a love and deep knowledge of M football. That's always a valuable perspective, and the fact that he's never over-the-top like some blue hairs can be is a pleasant change.

Another thing MGoBlog could do, in terms of inside information, is communicate more with the Maize Rage. I know that might sound silly, but I think it would be greatly beneficial to both parties to have a more official association with each other. MGoPosters could suggest ways to improve both the Maize Rage and possibly even the football student section because the Rage has developed a pretty good relationship with the athletic department. MGoPosters for example, could suggest signs, chants, ideas for game "stunts," anything really, and if it's a good idea, you get to see your idea on TV. On the other side of things, I know that the Rage collectively has a few people that it seems to me always have good sources for breaking info. For example, a friend of mine who is pretty dedicated to the Rage knew days in advance that Maryland and Rutgers were going to join the B1G. His connection was within the Maryland ath. dept., and while that may seem like an obscure connection or bad sample size (of one), that isn't the only time he's had the inside track on football news. He's also not the only person who has had "breaking info."

As a senior at U-M, I no longer actively participate in the non-game aspects of the Rage, but I did fresh/soph years and thus am not giving you a baseless perspective. Plus, many of the people who've been dedicated to it all four years are still good friends of mine. In any case, if there was a way to get information from them to here, I bet it would be helpful.

Or just do some mid-season score prediction or random-type prediction contests where the prize is a t-shirt, whatever who cares

BoFan

February 24th, 2013 at 11:08 PM ^

Thanks for posting this. Some of the writers and contributors try to get too cute and it can be annoying. As long as the writers and contributors listen to the feedback and as long as feedback like this is allowed they will adapt and the blog will improve. I've seen cases where that's happened for the better. Although I've seen cases where the writer gets defensive instead which doesn't work.

mmwade

February 24th, 2013 at 11:15 PM ^

I have been a long time reader but never posted.  This topic finally compelled me to post.

MGoBlog is incredible and makes me laugh out loud besides adding to my Michigan knowledge.  Brian's writing style is what makes the blog and the other writers add different viewpopints.

Keep up the good work!!

joeyb

February 25th, 2013 at 12:15 AM ^

There are two things that I always liked about MGoBlog:

1) I can get all of the details about something happening in one place. The best example is Hello posts. It takes info from all 4 of the major recruiting sites, quotes about the players, and various breakdowns and puts them in one spot. You also get some things that you only see here like YMRMFRSPA that really help with trying to figure out where a player fits in.

2) I can get a Michigan fan's perspective on things happening. Writers are always biased and they try to cover it up. No one here tries to cover it up and they instead try to back up their view points. A lot of times, I agree with the argument that Brian makes and it just gives me the facts to backup the argument when I have that conversation with someone else. Example: A lady at work hated Rich Rod from the beginning. I asked her why and I had facts to dispute every claim she made about him. Eventually, it came down to her just not liking Rita, so she didn't like Rich.

Anyway, when the authors try to fit jokes into the content too much, it really masks the two main benefits of the blog for me. Many times, I feel like Brian writes as if he were speaking and it would makes sense if he were actually having a conversation with you. But, he's not; he's writing on a blog and the inflections that make the jokes make sense don't come through, so I tend to lose information.

My favorite posts in order are:

Hello Posts (and other spontaneous news items)
News conference writeups (mostly just skim for MGoQuestions)
UFR (mostly the breakdowns at the end with a few peaks at big plays)
Game Columns (check to see if my general impression of the game matched)
UV
Recruiting Roundup (usually just read about big recruits and skip the rest)

You can see that it starts with almost pure info and works its way toward info + commentary. Anything else basically has too much wit thrown in for my tastes and I have a hard time trying to pick through it for info.

NelzQ

February 25th, 2013 at 12:30 AM ^

of styles. I observed this site for quite awhile before emerging from the woods. I chose this site to become a poster because I found myself here the most due to the comprehensive information available at any given moment. There is less lag for new information. 

Generally, there are some pretty thought provoking minds lurking here.

I also dig your site Magnus. Keep doing the girl pix. 

I admire and draw inspiration from the fact that you guys made this into a vocation. 

Seth, I always enjoy your magazine as well. I built my computer too. As a guy who rebuilt a BMW transmission just because I'd always wanted to rebuild a transmission, I appreciate information freaks (as I am one).

Go Blue.

Jon06

February 25th, 2013 at 12:36 AM ^

This is an interesting discussion, but man, you guys are brutal.

As far as I'm concerned, the blog is Brian, so diluting content by Brian with content by others will always be a losing proposition. I think most of the reason that Seth is getting crap is that his style is very different than Brian's, whereas Heiko doesn't freelance much beyond straight reporting and Ace's style is close enough to the Blogfather's that I sometimes can't tell who wrote something without checking the byline. (Is that just Ace's style, or is Ace intentionally aping Brian's style? I used to think the latter, but now I can't tell.)

SoullessHack

February 25th, 2013 at 1:03 AM ^

... for Unsolicited Advice Fest 2013 is as follows:

 

1) I think a great many people are conflating their feelings about Brian's writing with the results of the 2012 football season.  This is a UM sports blog, and that means it's a UM Football blog.  Having listened to Gary Grant, Roy Tarpley, Antoine Joubert, et al on the radio in my bedroom as a kid I'm as happy as anyone about the Great Basketball Renaissance.  But the Michigan Athletics brand begins and ends with the helmet.  Them's the brakes.

Getting pancaked in the season opener really took the wind out of the football season's sails.  After that, Denard's performance and injuries prevented any kind of consistent momentum.  It would have been one thing to see a senior Denard Robinson put a flawed team on his back and heroically carry them to an 8-5 record while shredding the individual record books in the process.  Instead, we got the Notre Dame game.  And the relief of breaking the losing streak to Michigan State was followed by... the Nebraska game.  Feel the excitement!

2) A message for Brian.  I'm just going to put this out there.  If you like it, you can take it.  If you don't, you can send it right back:  Don't listen to one f-ing word anyone on here has to say about your writing.  Not one.  You created something from nothing.  This entire blog sprung from your head like Athena.  So in the words of Mr. Earlie Johnson, aka the Hugh Hefner of Muskegon (we all saw that column, right?), just "do what you do," man.  Just do what you do.  

maineandblue

February 25th, 2013 at 1:14 AM ^

I thought this was gonna be a shit show when I started reading the thread, but it's a testament to the quality of this community that we can have such a restpectful discussion re: constructive criticism. 

Some folks above made good points that resonated with me and helped clarify my thinking on the topic. I agree that the blog has lost a little something, and agree that it has a lot to do with the combination of lack of engaging storylines/events and less Brian (both in quantity and sometimes passion). I like Seth and the others, but imho Brian is far and away the best sport blogger out there, and one of my favorite writers period. It makes sense that given the amount of creative energy that goes into his posts he might lose steam at times, or feel like he has already covered certain areas of ground or made certain jokes or analogies.

I started (obsessively) following the blog after The Horror, and Brian's wit and passion (and great taste in music) have helped me cope with the ups and downs of being an emotional Michigan fan. I echo the sentiments that I want more Brian emoting. I wonder whether taking heat for some of his opinions has made him back off from certain topics that he's passionate about (e.g., Dave Brandon's attempts to turn U of M into Special K U, concerns about Borges' inconsistency/competence). Maybe he's tired of whining, but personally I'll gladly take some more, in depth whining about the topics he's most passionate about. 

And as for the other writers, even though they're not Brian I would take any of them over the writers of the other team blogs that I follow.  

The Shredder

February 25th, 2013 at 1:20 AM ^

I love blog... I love blog. 

Are you just saying you love things that you are starring at on your computer? 

I love blog! I do. 

No really this place will have highs and lows like anything. Brian has been cool enough to link my blog when I post on nights when the moon is full(so not that often). I will always be thankful for that and for the way he gives to the little guys that post about Michigan or Bob Knight Roats on VHS that is found on Ebay. Its Free and I like it. I would never pay for content from 24/7 or Rivals ect or read anywhere else.

My real concern(content wise, great Brian!) is when he and his Mogwife have a baby. I know my child has pretty much killed most of the little posting I did. Everyone.. Be ready for that day when Mgoblog has a baby. It will change posting... and stuff.

P.S Oh Seth I like your stuff too. Good stuff. Very good... stuff.

Thorin

February 25th, 2013 at 4:12 AM ^

As a fellow dad, I can confirm this. He will love the baby more than mgoblog and even Michigan football itself. We must prevent him from procreating. The mgobaby era will be like "Oh yeah, Michigan lost the Appalachian State rematch or whatever, but it was such a nice day to take the baby to the Arb. Kittens? Kittens."

awolfinwater

February 25th, 2013 at 2:19 AM ^

I think the information in this this thread is very valuable to the continued growth of the blog. I'd like to add my personal views as an avid reader for the past 8 years. 1. A lot more of the references go way above my head and I find myself reading less of the content because of it. No offense to Seth, but his style just click with me and I skip those posts. Recently, I've been yearning for some more Ace content. Some of his recent post game basketball write ups conveyed so much emotion and concrete info. The best stuff I've read anywhere in awhile. I'm talking Rick Reilly quality material. 2. I gain most of my "Michigan Intel" from reading the forum titles and rarely read through the threads (except for this one). I feel the arguments in the mgoboard are becoming less thoughtful and unsupported. Maybe due to the proliferation of 140 character tweets. If I want tweets, I'll check out twitter. 3. This blog gained my loyalty through the data driven arguments of UFR, Kenpom references, Mathlete, etc... Even though I consider myself a stat geek, I have trouble keeping up with the advanced metric references. I'm not suggesting dumbing down the posts but provide links, hover, or fine print reference to what the stats convey. I can imagine that if I'm having trouble keeping up, so are a lot of other people. 4. Brian's knowledge of the Michigan Football team including player strengths/ weaknesses and offensive / defensive strategy is huge competitive advantage over anything else out there. I highly regard Brian's opinions of the players and coaches and would love to see more content on how to best utilize are talent. 5. I love reading Brian's post during the football season from both an analytics and prose perspective. The UVs I've read less and less over the years since I rarely click through to the article and have trouble discerning the topic Brian is responding to. 6. Love the Hello: posts. The team does a great job of aggregating the info from across the web. In a rush, I skim the prospects other offers and read the fantastic summaries provided by the mgoteam. Hope this is helpful and not to negative. Easily the best blog on the web and I find myself checking the site about once a day.

MIdocHI

February 25th, 2013 at 3:45 AM ^

I think there are a few reasons why the blog seems to have changed, and most of them are the result of the growing popularity of the blog. Brian does not have the time to write as much anymore because he must spend more time on the administrative aspects- security/malware issues, finances, etc.- of the blog. The football team has returned to its baseline state: minimum 8-9 win seasons with better seasons sprinkled in. I joined because I was in the UNACCEPTABLE faction. I came to appreciate some of the points from the other side, but the strongly held emotional positions people took during the tenure of RR contributed to the strength of the blog. Writing is very time-consuming. When I first came upon the blog, I could not believe that people would spend that much time on FREE content. I think the writers are great, but I do not read every post. Personally, I do not care much for the recruiting info except for the Hello posts, but clearly I am in a minority there. I like TomVH, but the thing about his posts were that we got the scoop on these recruits. Now, those on Twitter have usurped the scoops. I do not think that TomVH would still seem to have the same insider information were he still here. Not many criticized Heiko, but he is a good example to use. He is in the MD/PhD program at Michigan. Do you understand how difficult and time-consuming that is? He explained that he was doing research that semester, so he could carry out his MGoBlog functions. What that means is that while you were reading his press conference transcripts and banter with Borges and commenting in the drinking threads, he was in the lab doing his research to keep up. He did the Blog work because he loves Michigan football, like we all do. Few of the writers make a living at this, and none are getting rich.

Tater

February 25th, 2013 at 4:28 AM ^

I won't tell who I tend to read and who I don't, becuase it really doesn't matter.  Brian is extremely talented, and could easily write for one of the "big boys."  He is a hard act to "follow.  When it comes to MgoBlog, Brian is Elvis (or MJ), and anyone eise who writes is the Jordanaires.

It is unrealistic to expect anyone to be Brian II.  Sometimes, you resonate with someone's style.  Sometimes you don't.  I say, "Give them a chance to adjust and find their own writing styles."  

Besides, anyone who thinks the writing is bad has plenty of opportunty to start writing diaries and show everyone how they can "do it better."

Spunky

February 25th, 2013 at 5:47 PM ^

This thread is a trip!

I don't have a problem with the writing style of the front page, although my first reaction to The Muppets was, "What is this crap?" And I'm a fan of Miss Piggy under other circumstances. Anyway, Mgo.licio.us is the only section of the blog that I ignore (without good reason). I guess it's easy to forget about and not updated often. Plus, quite of few of those links end up being discussed on the board.

Personally, I would enjoy reading more interviews and general information about U-M sports (past and present), but even that's not a big deal. After all, this isn't my blog where I expect everything to be done to my liking. Dare I say it, the wiggling Kate Upton fascination by some users is far more annoying than any of the jokes that I don't get. Ladies, how about posting some candidates for a hunky male mascot of MGoBlog? Just kiddin'. That would be tacky as well.

Edit: Just wanted to add that I enjoy hearing the band play the Hawaiian War Chant and Temptation. Sorry, The Muppets just don't have the same affect on me. 

El Jeffe

February 25th, 2013 at 8:38 AM ^

What an interesting and surprisingly critical thread. I had no idea that there were so many people out there who felt entitled not just to free content or free entertaining content, but to free entertaining content that exactly matched their intellectual capacity and aesthetic tastes.

Couple of bullets:

  • Those of you complaining about the Muppets are just... wrong. If you don't understand why the notion of Muppets singing Hawaiian War Chant and Temptation is simultaneously bizarre, hilarious, and evocative of the tradition of Michigan athletics (which, by the way, pretty much sums up the whole raison d'etre of MGoBlog), then I don't know what to tell you.
  • The complaint that "I don't like Seth's jokes because I don't understand them so he should write easier so I can understand him" makes me figuratively insane. Is it even possible that you could be sitting at a computer (or on a smart phone) and reading something you don't understand, and then not think to LOOK IT UP ON YOUR COMPUTER OR SMART PHONE? / ~ Herm

Sopwith

February 25th, 2013 at 10:03 AM ^

It's fair to provide some feedback of this sort once in a while.  I find myself needing to do some web research now and again on certain memes and cultural references (e.g., "Game, Blouses" came up about 10 times before I Googled it to find out what the hell), but that's fine.  Brian and I are around the same age and I get most of his dated allusions that many younger readers probably miss, so it balances out.  His writing and analysis are brilliant, in my opinion.

The other writers are often fantastic, sometimes a little too cute (the OP probably identified a fair example of such), baseline droll, but I know what I'm getting when I come here.  I have a Rivals subscription and think the two sources complement each other wonderfully.  I go there for straight news and analysis like I'd get from an Uncle who's a company man. It's boring, but it's clear and insightful.  

I come here because it's quirky and eccentric, and the analysis of football has improved my insider knowledge of Xs and Os by leaps and bounds the past few years.  And the discussion boards here are 100x better, funnier, and full of characters I've come to know.

[edit:  after re-reading this post, I decided I really like the phrase "baseline droll" and my goal is to use it in casual conversation at some point later today]

joeismyname

February 25th, 2013 at 10:03 AM ^

I just try to get past the fact that this site is written by a handful of faux-ironic reddit reading hipsters (have you heard the songs they put on the podcasts?) that probably don't agree with me politically, and just take it for what it is; sometimes funny, but always informative "tounge and cheekish" writing.

Sometimes their humor really gets through to me and I find myself laughing very hard (i.e., the post-game analysis of the 2011 Illinois game), and other times it falls painfully short (i.e., yesterday's Beyonce fiasco), but I will read this site all the same. What is truly great about this site is its constant on point statistcal analysis, its mostly knowledgable posters and up/down-vote system, and its great recruiting analysis, allowing me not have to ever have go to rivals or scout.

I live in Lexington, KY and have to hear about the mighty C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS! all the time, which is beyond irritating. Every once in a while I read their blog site just for the sake of keeping up with the city's interests, and I must say that Mgoblog is far superior, and we should be thankful for this great, informative site. Most of the posts on their site are worthless drivell and horribly bias un-analysis written by college interns. The senior writers ar e frat-tastic douchebags on top of that. If you want to appreciate Mgoblog, please go to http://kentuckysportsradio.com  and  

Six Zero

February 25th, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^

This site faces is the democratic and entitled mass-ownership ideals that come hand in hand with user-generated content. The blog is, by Brian's at least partial design (more or less), for Michigan Men by Michigan Men, and as the readership continues to grow and grow, so too does the belief that 'hey, we're all a part of it' and deserve to get what we want from it. It's becoming increasingly hard to satisfy the diversity of such a huge following without moving away from the niche content source that made MGoBlog emerge in the first place. So what's a shaggy blog dude to do?

In other words, dude creates blog with unique writing style and perspective. It blows up, and millions of readers descend upon dude's blog. Dude invites the readers to contribute openly and freely to make site more autonomous and interesting. Finally, dude gets criticized for the blog's original style?

Yes, not all of the writers are Brian... But it's his choice to make them official contributors, so consider them fully endorsed by the site's creator. I don't think the site has evolved as much as the readers have evolved, and not necessarily for the better. Since I started reading this site it's always baffled me why so many celebrated members and blog personalities disappear. They don't stop being Michigan fans, and more often than not they still devote the same amount of time at other destinations. So what is it then? It's the mass readership here. It changes, and it affects the overall climate, content, and quality of MGoBlog from time to time.

In other words, it's not Seth, it's you.