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Wrecking The Program; the open thread
Senior Day deserves three threads!
When I published, there wasn't yet an open thread, so...
which thread will win?
Lets wreck their program
My thread got nuked lol
The winner was this thread for title and this is where the discussion began (sometimes, that second criteria is a little more important than which one was posted first).
Also, I really do hope Jeffy Meyer has the opportunity to at least whisper to Crean, "We ruined your program." As a representative of the program, he shouldn't, but it would be hilairous, I think.
What, I thought my "Tom Crean sucks" made for a saucey title.
to look at him, smile and don't say a word. Well maybe a well deserved little chuckle.
And all of them are well-deserved.
I can't help but laugh thinking of Lou Holtz saying that.
Start the game. The subs are getting cold.
Let's get up on them early and by a lot. Get Crean's ulcer cranking.
Is the game going to start on time?
Why wouldn't it?
Lightning delay in the arena?
Was worried that the previous game would run late. I guess I worded it wrong. I was concerned about missing the tipoff of our game.
Oh ok sorry, I thought you meant is the actually game itself going to not start on time.
Is that a picture from 40 minutes ago or are there really only about 500 fans in Crisler tonight?
The 'warm up' shots from any game are almost always from close to an hour ago. Football games are the same way, they'll show Devin throwing around with like 100 people in the stands but it's 10 minutes before tip-off. The players clear the court/field well before the start of the game
To J-Mo scoring 40 on 20 dunks.
Unfortunately, though, he already has two blocking fouls.
Really hoping this turns into a beatdown thread like during the Illnois game.
Tom Crean is a poopyhead.
a douchebag Dwight Shrute
Glad Dakitch has the call
Let's avoid the slow start guys. Come out firing!
FWIW, ACC fans think Tom Crean is a classless fuck, too.
Is Leader of the Year an actual award?
Similar to the Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence.
Hope that's one of many today.
How was that a foul?
Wtf was that? They better call the foul on the floor...
Keep that up
Defense por favor
Morgan a beast!
Jordan Morgan with 100% of our relevant statistics at this point
J Mo playing with a purpose.
Can he do this for a full 40?
Morgan lighting it up so far on senior night
Coach Fake Bake pulling an Izzo and standing next to our players on the court.
I'd just like to say that I'm extremely glad the Big Ten title isn't dependant on winning this game.
What a dogshit call there.
These late fouls are horseshit
There is "Victim of Eggregious Call"
That was nasty
Once again not guarding Ferrell
that was one of the damnest sequence of plays i've ever witnessed
Indiana Basketball is getting close to Wisconsin Basketball levels of hate. I can't stand this stupid program
Their coaches make it easy to hate them
I hate Indiana ALOT more than Wisconsin. Wisconsin doesn't pay off the officials like the Hoosiers do.
I was just texting a friend the exact same thing. Crean also rivals Bo Ryan for my least favorite coach in the BIG
It's Crean, he is such a gigantic douchebag. Can't stand that he uses Bo quotes.
If Gene Staratore is worse at officiating basketball or NFL games.
Oh good a six point possession.... Great! Hopefully that gets the bullshit luck out of Indianas system.
They are shooting 100% so far. This can't last...right?
Love seeing GR3 attacking!
Horford sets a pick for Yogi...
Can we play defense?
Rotations and D in general has to be a lot better
We'll eventually get a stop right?
Hmm, I wonder how long Indiana will shoot 100%
Indiana nearly missed a shot there
FUCKING play defense
Wtf is this shit
Yeep. Pretty much going how I feared
Holy shit the defense is horrendous so far!
I am going to be so pissed if we lose to these candy cane jackasses
even though this game really means almost nothing to us
They could still end up anywhere from a 2-4 seed depending on what happens in this game and in the BTT.
Michigan doesn't appear to be giving any.
Yeep. Pretty much going how I feared
Why does Indiana always play perfect against us?
We don't play d
Things Notre Dame football fans probably wonder about us. Sometimes I think one team gets in anothers head
We're just so lazy on defense.
Watching Florida play defense earlier today was like a revelation. For one, they actually care about doing it.
Looks like we filled up on the No Defense buffet, with some Heavy Legs for dessert. Not much effort now.
this is the team I know. Start off down big just to bounce back in the second half
9 for 9, Indiana currently smoking us.
Can somebody get back on defense?
Seriously IU is terrible this year. Why do they suddenly turn into 1992 Duke against us?
Apparantly we don't care since we already clinched
A miss and an Irvin 3
Can we get a call downlow? GRIII and Horford have been getting mugged with no whistle. Meanwhile J-Mo picks up a cheapy for just standing under a dunk.
Cliche...but thought we were the home team and when getting mugged when driving the lane, we are supposed to get a call?
Seems like Indiana always starts out as an unstoppable offensive machine against us
Wow Spike and Irvin immediately makes an impact out of the timeout
GR3 en fuego
GRIII for some reason continues to be great at shooting long twos
But can't hit a 3 to save his life.
This entire Indiana team can eat a bag of dicks
If he's going to rise up and drop that we're good
Can we play D tonight?
deep in the tourney, with the shit defense they play. The lack of effort on d is glaring.
We were all saying the same type of stuff last year when we lost to PSU on the road and got obliterated by MSU. All you gotta do is get hot for a few games to go deep and we did it last year
Didn't think we would win the Big Ten but we did.
I didn't say it was impossible. The odds of playing great on offense every game in the tourney, is not a bet I would take, though.
Ok we got the early crappy play out of our system. Time to turn it on.
Get those boogers out yo
On pace to give up 100 to Indiana. Goodness - guess that's basically what happens when you're shooting 90%
Couple in and outs for us this game.
3rd in and out for us, while they have 3 in and out and ins.
Let's be real. The players don't look prepared or terribly interested. Maybe after halftime it will matter to them
Do the idiots who negged me want to actually make a case for how this team's defense isn't shit?
Don't play solid d
but I'm sure you're getting negged for your tone
Agree we don't play good defense, don't like calling the team shit.
I did not call the team shit, I said the defense is shit.
Okay, Irvin. That was a bit much. That was out of Stauskas' range.
Walton has had a couple threes halfway down and come out and then GRIII had that shot that came back out to. Would be nice to have those 8 points. Come on Rim! Dakich told me the ball knows that means the rim must know to
What the hell shot was that?
Nah that was dirty
Good. He's basically their entire team. Just attack him all game
Shred this zone
I always find it amusing when teams go zone against us. We seem to be really good at shredding them generally
Need to get Nik involved
Why take a 3 2 seconds into the posession Caris?
Don't like seeing these 3s for 3's sake
I dont mind taking 3s, but that was terrible
We can't hit anything and they can't miss.
Playing great D
No Farrell or vonleh. Have to score now
Yogi is so quick. Walton doing a hell of a job
J-Mo is playing well on senior night, happy for him
"Indiana going with 2-3 zone as a memorial to the time Syracuse's 2-3 held them to 5 total points in the 2013 Sweet SIxteen"
Are my eyes deceiving me or has Vonleh taken 2 3's?
He is shooting a ridiculously good percentage on the year.
Walton's playing some mean ball denial
Me either. I was like "why you no make MBB thread"? But then, I was looking for the hockey game at 6pm too. Couldn't figure out why it wasn't on BTN2GO. I got it together now, though.
Seems like they've fallen in love with what won them Illinois the other night. No guys, this isn't Illinois anymore.
it pretty much is....
I hate this game so much. They are making EVERYTHING!
They seem to want it more than we do.
They won't shoot 70%+ all game right?
some crisp offensive sets
Getting swept by these jack holes is really going to look bad......
there's 25 minutes left in the game...
Not to give up on your team too soon or anything, midway through the first half.
I may have not made my point clearly. Was more talking about why I'm hoping they turn it around. But you have to admit this doesn't look good.
That was a big time screen
He may score 17 a game but, it seems like he gives up 30.
I want to punch Sheehy in the face.
I feel like his true hair is curly red but to hide his inherent Wisconsin-ness he keeps it close cut and colors it
I hate that Indiana plays out of their mind against us
Nik falls asleep on D
The worst defense I've seen from Michigan in a since the Iowa game.
I hate how offensive players can run wildly out of control at the basket and are rewarded with the foul call.
Out of control but a foul on us?
As good as our coaches can be, they are terrible at motivation pre game.
God I have some irrational hatred towards Will Sheehey
I don't get these fouls and non-foul calls.
They are aware that our transition D is bad. Was hoping it would be better at this point in the year.
What the fuck guys?
Can't afford sloppy passes/turnovers like that in addition to not showing up on defense.
about this game. Doesn't a loss possibly bump them down to a 4 seed? It seems like it would pretty much kill the chance for a 2 seed.
4 seed? The floor is probably a 3 seed unless they lose today and their first game in the BTT. A win today and a win in the BTT locks up a 2 seed.
switch to the 1 3 1
You'd think Indiana was 29-0 and Yogi Ferrell was a Naismith finalist the way we play them
I sure hate em tho
The crowd really got into it there. Huge boost
I love how Levert can finish on the open court
He's got an excellent up and under move while in the air to get the defender to blow right by.
This game is an abortion
Can someone please plow over Crean when he's standing on the court.
or better yet, a steal pick flies away and hits him while on the floor so he gets T'd and we get FTs and the ball back.
Or you try to make a pass and you hit him before he can get off the court.
Sheehey or Craft?
Izzo or Crean?
Sheehey and Crean. Craft is a good kid off the court. And we are playing Indiana today soooooo.
If we start hitting 3's, get back in transition and Sheehey stops hitting those ridiculous contested 3's we should be in good shape
Really guy? Blow the fucking whistle after the shot next time asshole.
That ref is an idiot.
What the fuck.
Why on earth are we even thinking of resetting the shot clock there?
Awful, awful call.
C'mon man ... Where is the possession??
They are just awful.
Oh looks like Crisler has turned into Assembly Hall...
BALL DON'T LIE
Ball. Don't. Lie.
Ball don't lie
was nowhere near the play to have the audacity to call a change in possession.
Never mind, I guess...
(1) That is not a possession
(2) Let's wait on blowing the whistle until the flow of the play stops
Wow Indiana brought the Assembly Hall home-cooking with them
This is bullshit!
Beilein just got T'd.
You tell 'em, coach!
What the hell is going on out there?
Refs are on the take
GO GET EM COACH! Love it.
Why do we have homecourt disadvantage? Lolol
Are there worse officials than these idioys
Delaney loves his some Hoosiers
of officiating today. If you were just watching the play, you'd assume we are at Assembly Hall. Garbage.
Worth the technical, even though that display by Beilein did not warrant one.
Tom Izzo runs on the fucking court the entire game and nothing and that gets Beilein a T? Bull
These refs suck. It's a constant joke, but they really do suck tonight
lol like a tiny hand-check foul is gonna rectify the past 2 mins
Not worth losing it for this game coach
Well that 2 minutes was an unfortunate turn of events.
Yogi Ferrell has such a punchable face it drives me crazy when he's making 3s.
Refs won't let Indiana lose this game. Doesn't help that we STILL don't check Yogi. We need to watch film
How the hell does Tom walk five feet onto the court and never gets a Technical?
All Toms get away with this
Gawd these refs are making an already somewhat frustrating game unbearable to watch (although I'm gonna keep watching)
And no foul? WTF
It was actually all ball. These refs are still shit, though.
Except it was farell that grabbed his arm from behind
These toy refs
Would it be a tech to throw it at the guys face on an inbounds play?
I believe so. Dude from Iowa did it some years back. Against Indiana coincidentally.
a coach of mine had us do that to a ref one time. we sent a player to stand right in front of the ref down the court and we through it ro him and the was instructed to act like he couldnt catch the ball and it bit the ref right in the face
I mean I really can't tell
Horford is so soft. We NEED Mitch next year
Jesus you are unbearable. Stop whining about every play...
Despite the old gongshow happenings, this defense has to tighten up for real.
Not a and 1 for Levert?
I hate Indiana Basketball
Levert was fouled twice on that last possession.
Fuck, should be tied if not for these god damn refs.
That body bump Levert got would've been called if the refs were consistent on both teams
we have them where we want them.
I will eat an entire cardboard box if Indiana continues shooting 60% the rest of the game.
What God awful officiating. For fuck sake man.
It's like that blown shot clock call rattled them because after that it wa an avalanche of AWFUL calls.
We're definitely playing 5 v 8.
Crean is such a bitch ass.
I still feel calm about this game. Like I know we're still going to win. Hope my feeling is right.
close enough -- IU is not gonna shoot 65% for a whole game and we will get a make-up call or two in the second half.
We're not hitting any shots, playing any defense, and it's 8 vs 5 out there. Tighten up the D, run some crisp O, and we can overcome this bullshit.
Guys--stop blaming the refs. There have been 2-3 questionable calls and 1 bad call all game (IU travel after Spike tried to take the charge). Spike wasn't get on that, should have been a block.
IU is abusing us on offense. They are laying the blueprint on how you beat Michigan--screen, screen, screen. We don't switch well and eventually we lose our men for an easy shot.
Most games we thrive on bad turnovers from the other team. IU has 1....yes that's 1...turnover.
Play some D or we drop to a 4 seed (MSU is going to win the BTN tourney and steal our 3)
not the only one with this view.
Ok, I'll stop, but ONLY because you said so.
Is the difference in the game. Why do we never get any sort of home court advantage?
And they should T-up Creen for being 6 ft out on the court!
Agreed, except for the last paragraph
I mostly agree except that you don't have to be set to take a charge. The same thing happened in the Arizona game earlier and it was correctly called a charge. Also, Ferrell gets that same call literally every game. It's a charge.
Some lousy offensive possessions, with rushed jumpers or missed lay-ups. I can understand that stuff to an extent. But we've had a game and a half now where we seem incapable of slowing down a lousy Indiana offense that can't shoot outside of one guy. Insert all disclaimers about how we're not in a position to complain about basketball right now. This is a minor annoyance, fair enough. Would like to see us play stronger D in the second half.
I feel like the first half was a fluke what with Indiana's shooting on fire and so many blown calls by the officials.
we might win this game, but still
and we need a no-call at the rim on the defensive side. That should even things up somewhat on the call front.
at halftime, we need to close out on shots better
Everything I know about this game comes from this thread, and not having seen a score until this comment, it's hilarious that it's only a 6 point game. Some of you guys are so ridiculous. Based on the comments, I would have guessed the score is 114-8 right now.
Crean is a complete douche who needs to stop putting his hands down his pants and also has to learn to get off the court when there are players anywhere in his general vicinity. They refs need to realize we're not at assembly hall and Indiana shouldn't be getting preferential treatment. Lastly, IU needs to realize they're not actually a good basketball team and start missing some shots.
I'm not sure which was more atrocious our D or Indiana's basketball officials.
Michigan eFG% - 51.56%
Michigan OREB% - 38.89%
Michigan free throw rate - 15.63%
Michigan turnover % - 5.52%
Indiana eFG% - 66.67%
Indiana OREB% - 25.00%
Indiana free throw rate - 29.63%
Indiana turnover % - 8.95%
For those wondering about the defense, Indiana's PPP is 1.36, so not the best from us, especially in transition. However, our offensive PPP is 1.24, so we're definitely outperforming our Assembly Hall selves.
Defense pretty much fucking sucked
I hate that we had such a breeze game vs. Illinois before this because I think it lowered our guard and helped contribute to our blah 1st half. Hope they use halftime to recalibrate and recognize the new team playing across from them.
Time to respect Crean's guys for the NIT-heading team they are. Close these douchensteins out!
I'm happy we locked up the Big Ten last week or we (read: I) would really be melting down right now
Though locking it up might go a long ways to explaining why we aren't playing up to potential.
I'll take the loss as long as someone punches Crean in the face
Morgan was rolling back up court on Crean's side when he was looking downcort and three feet on to the court. Temptation would be to run him right over. Should be a tech on Crean, right?
We can't do it now because we're on defense...but we should've run him over 2-3 times on offense.
Hit some shots man.
This. Would like to see more movement and back door cuts.
In answering my own question...
Coaches I hate...(B1G only)
#1 Tom Crean
#2 Tom Izzo
#3 Bo Ryan
#4 Richard Pitino
#5 Fran McCaffery / Matt Painter
(oddly enough I like 3 of the other 5 and I'm indifferent about the other 2 of 5)
Players I hate...(B1G only)
#1 Will Sheehey
#2 Denzel Valentine
#3 Gary Harris
#4 Keith Appling
#5 Russell Byrd
(oddly enough, I don't think there are any other players in the B1G that I truly hate. I may not like a bunch...but I don't dislike them like this 5. Guys like Amir Williams I just laugh at)
Teams I hate...(B1G only)
#1 MSU (because it's MSU) & Indiana (because of coach and players)
#3 OSU (because it's OSU)
For all of our poor D and lame officiating it aint so bad. And we missed a few FT's. We'll pull it together in the 2nd half.
We need better shot selection to start the half and play some damn d knock sheehey on his ass once if you have to.
Hockey up on MSU 1-0 90 seconds into the game
Hopefully en route to another 7-1 victory, or thereabouts.
Ryholly.....go back to the red cedar blog...the refs are dictating this game with the lousy non calls....and MSU isn't winning the big ten tourney....go troll elsewhere!
5 mins into the game. Nieves scored
Go Blue. No mercy!
nice energy; way to move Nic inside!
Every time Indiana's gone down low low, it seems to have turned into points.
We need a shotblocker
Oooh watch out, we have a badass here (staring down Stauskas)
2nd bad defensive gamble by GR3 today. Need to get back right away.
Crean went on the court twice, where in the hell is the T?
if the coach does so in order to push their own player in the correct direction.
Tackling an opposing player is also okay.
Get off the court you cocksucker Crean
Physical fucking contact with a player and no T. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
That was so ridiculous. I was in awe while we went on a run.
Izzo, now Crean. Do your fucking jobs ref.
Just when I thought I cannot possibly hate you even more...
I want to see someone nail Crean in the back of the head with a beer can, Homer Simpson style.