With Notre Dame having played in Ireland last year and Penn State playing in Ireland in the upcoming years, I began thinking about whether or not I would want Michigan to play a game internationally. While I obviously wouldn't want to lose a home game, I personally think it would be extremely cool for Michigan to play a game internationally. An international game would allow for Michigan fans from outside of the U.S. to potentially see a game and would allow for foreigners to see Michigan play as well. Additionally, this game would allow me to do my two favorite things: travel and watch Michigan. However, that is just my opinion. What would the board think of an international Michigan football game?
Would You Want Michigan to Play Internationally?
Maybe I'm a curmudgeon but no. I don't like neutral sites for college football. All games should be on campus. I know there are arguments both ways but I'm in the camp that I'd rather have had a home and home with Bama than one neutral site game at Jerry World. Bowls are the only neutral site games and nowadays only a few of those even sell out and have an actual atmosphere.
Having witnessed the asswhoopin' in Dallas first hand, I could not agree with you more. The whole trip left me jaded to any neutral site games outside of a bowl/conference championship game....the atmosphere was just stale, no electricty to it.
Sorry, that's all I got.
No nein nyet
Will the band be traveling with the team?
Not if Dave Brandon has anything to say about it. Just not in the budget, my friend.
Landed on the moon!?! Damn doesn't apply to this thread.
No way. Jerry world was far enough.
Absolutely not. Never in a million years.
People think the ridiculous pricing on tickets is taking the game away from the fans, then this is pushing the fans away.
To hell with notre dame. Never I don't even want to play them next year.
that would be pretty sweet
Canada would be fine..
Basketball or hockey game maybe but not football.
Neutral site hockey in Toronto would be cool...
It's too bad the uninformed Canadians have no idea how awesome college hockey is, specifically Michigan hockey.
Basketball, absolutely. There are a lot of good prospects coming out of Ontario these days, and the occasional game in Toronto might help us in recruiting the next Stauskas, or even the next Wiggins.
M vs. Syracuse at the Air Canada Centre? I'd go to that, especially if I was a 19 or 20 year old student.
Not really, no. I just don't see what it'd accomplish. Michigan is already a world-renowned brand, both academically and athletically, so it's not like we need the added exposure. Also, its not like we're trying to open up the fertile recruiting grounds of the Scottish highlands anytime soon.
I know there's alums living abroad who'd love to see a game, but I just don't see it being worth going halfway across the world to play a football game in a country where few people, if any, really care about the sport.
I'm also starting to become of the mindset that games should try to remain on campus as much as possible. Especially come playoff time. Yeah yeah I know, schools can make more money if they do a neutral site vs having to give up a home game, but neutral site atmospheres just don't even remotely compare to home-and-homes. If I'm going to play a series with LSU, I want to play them in Death Valley, and I want them marching their asses up to the Big House as well.
I do not want to see Michigan play internationally. It seems like it would just be for the money. Plus, if it's a good matchup, I'd rather it be in the Big House. We have the best facility in college football.
I would, however, like to see Staee play intergalactically. They recruit there now, from what I hear.
They should play an entire season internationally. It'll be their study abroad program.
Only if it was in Ayacucho.
I think the ACC has occasionally floated the idea of playing a few basketball games in Europe and the Pac-12 has considered playing exhibition basketball as well as football in China, but I suppose the question for a Michigan football game is this - does anyone think there is a sufficient market for this to be more than a one-off type of event (i.e., an expensive neutral site game)? Not sure what the attendance was at ND-Navy, for example, but an OOC game at the beginning of the season might be in danger of garnering as much interest internationally as it sometimes does domestically.
Hot rumor for awhile was ND-Stanford in China. That was supposed to happen this year.
I just don't understand the point. They don't appreciate it college football over there like we do. Nor do they spend the money on the tickets, gear, food/drink like we do.
So why do it? Unless you're an irrelevant brand like sparty and want to create your brand based off of gimmick events. Another hot rumor for awhile was sparty-USC in Greece in basketball.
The only gimmick game I would want to see would be Michigan-Army at Yankee Stadium or Michigan-NW at Soldier Field. Both of those are rematches of games that happened way back when.
That would be like a home game for NW.
Home games for NW usually feature a ton of Michigan fans, so that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Correct. I don't have the link handy, but, in terms of alums in the Chicagoland area, Northwestern comes in like 10th out of the current Big Ten. Michigan would own Soldier Field.
No, but they do make knock off jerseys over there. So they do have some investment in college football.
As opposed to the authentic ones, which are made in Thailand
Basketball is much more popular on an international scale and less expensive logistically. It would be incredibly more expensive, with or without band, to schedule a football game. The NFL Europe experiment failed miserably and the NFL only schedules one game abroad per year. Canada might be feasible though.
Cabo would be fine with me.
Or Toronto... But that wouldn't make much sense. But let's invade anfield in Liverpool or Wembley in London. I'm sure a game in London would go over nicely there but not here.
Met stadium in NYC before intl.
No. No. No. Waste of money. No band. Why give up a home game or a home/home to do something in a bored, half filled stadium?
It's bad enough they play games during the week but these international games really highlight the fact that student comes second.
I drive by Sam Boyd stadium everyday for work
You live in Henderson?
I live in Henderson!
I'd be fine playing both at UNLV!
30 some posts and nobody has said it yet?
Only if the game takes place in La Paz
That's rewarding bad behavior.
I hear Cancun is nice this time of year.
1. Original Big 10 home and home
2. Quality, diverse home and home
3. Home games against MAC schools
999,999. Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland, Notre Dame
1,000,000. Away at App State
1,000,001. Made for TV neutral site
You'd rather play a MAC team than PSU or ND? Really?
If it's included with my season ticket package and I don't have to pay anymore sure.
No. I want them to play in Ann Arbor as often as possible.
No. International games are pointless.
Only if some overseas school started an American football program and developed into a competitive team.
Not liking that much.
I'd like to see it, actually. I think it'd be fun and unique, and wouldn't become a common, watered-down occurance (simply because of the travel costs and the fact that the rarity of international games is precisely the reason for their tremendous popularity when they do happen) like ths ineutral-site bullshit.
I agree! I think it would be a blast to have one international game. I'd happily get a few passport stamps, travel to support the team, and enjoy a brand new UM football experience to put in my memory book!
I see it as a logical extension of one of the most (if not the most) recognizable brands in college sports. If done correctly (i.e. similiar to the NFL games in London, which I've attended and are a total blast), the idea can really galvanize a massive global fanbase. If done incorrectly (i.e. like ND v. Navy, which I thought was poorly organized), it can essentially just be a neutral site game that has limited-to-no material impact on the landscape of college sports.
The reality is that - whether we like it or not - international games will find a way to enter the mainstream. It's happened with the NFL and college football - being the large business that it is - will pursue international options more and more. If it makes money and offers people a great value-based experience, why not? As such, my personal opinion is that I'd like to see UM at the forefront of the movement rather than reacting to it.
Dove into my record book because I remembered at least one international game Michigan has played in. They've played in two and are perfect in international games-
|11/5/1880||at Toronto||W 13-6||Lacrosse Club||Toronto, Ontario, Canada|
|11/7/1885||at Windsor Club||W 10-0||Unknown||Windsor, Ontario, Canada|
would pretty much demand new uniforms.
No interest in international games.
Naaaa I'm good !
When I studied at Peking University for a few months I showed a few of the students video of Michigan football games and they loved it. I showed video the team running out and touching the banner as well as parts of the games. One of the first things they commented on were the helmets followed by the band and the fight song in the run out. They all thought that was amazing and were genuinely interested in the actual game as well. We spent over an hour looking at photos, watching videos and discussing what a football Saturday involves which was a lot of fun. I also recieved a number of "Go Blue!" shout outs or people asking about Michigan while I wore my pullover jacket walking around in both Beijing and Shanghai.
If they were to do it once every 6 years or just a one off with no future commitment that would be ok with me. I wouldn't be interested in a "Shamrock Series" like ND where they play a neutral site, non-conference (yes, I know ND is indie) game every year. That's what bowls are for. A game in Beijing or elsewhere overseas would be better than a roadtrip to a neutral site game in the U.S., especially for the players. While I cannot speak for the players I would be more interested playing in Beijing or Germany and experiencing that culture over Arlington Texas or some other NFL stadium.
Of note, the University of Michigan has (or had) a working relationship with Peking University so it was nice to have some help in explaining everything with the Peking students! Haha!
you even heard "Go Brue!" many times walking around Shanghai...
For people who have the privilege of being able to travel overseas or travel period, that's all nice.
But there aren't too many fans who can afford a trip for more than one to the Rose Bowl, much less a trip to China. Not that I would have to worry about more than one in my case.
The only international traveling I plan on doing is next summer in Windsor when I get all the way turnt up.
At the same time there are many who cannot afford to take their family of four to Michigan Stadium to see Appalachian State next year either at $75 per ticket. If you don't have season tickets you and go through the athletic departments dynamic pricing system you are currently looking at spending $220-$2000 for Ohio State. So while I see your point and agree that it would be expensive so are bowl games and neutral site games like the Cowboy Classic last year.
As harsh as it sounds those games are not meant to be affordable to the average fan but rather showcase the team (or brand) in a prime television slot and draw alumni in from the surrounding region. The Cowboy Classic for example was not really for the season ticket holder and certainly not for students but for the same crowd whofo to every bowl game.
In the end, I would rather see Michigan play in China on TV than play App St. at home and in person for $75. At least the student athletes would get the unique experience and privledge to travel abroad and experience another culture.
I may be the only person excited for that game against app state next year.
Blood thirsty would be a better word than excited, actually.
Within 15 years, a bowl game will be played in Cuba. Book it.
Also, I would totally attend the Havana Bowl. And I don't even smoke cigars.
I say that because by then there will be 50 bowl games and there won't be too many places in the U.S. without one (some with two or three) so overseas we go! Haha!
That's true in most cases but the NCAA as we know is very open to creative interpretation of it's rulebook. For example, they have the Hawaii exemption which allows the visiting school to play a 13th game if they play a non-conference game in Hawaii. Since the NCAA is all about money I could see them allowing a school to play 13 games if the game where important enough.
Never. Awful idea.
Yes, North Korea, Rungnado May Day Stadium, get the record back from Tennessee/VaTech in 2020.
No need to start a war, Strahov Stadium is available.
is the possibility that an away game gets played internationally. In a situation where, say, Miami could get a big check to move the game to the Bahamas or maybe Cuba at a future date and would still come to Ann Arbor for the other half, that seems like an awesome spectacle with no downside.
Don't know if they could keep most of the payday to make it worth their while or how those negotiations would go down, but there are a couple schools that could be in a position to schedule a home and home with Michigan and find a lucrative contract in the islands, Mexico or Canada.
Notre Dame didn't give up a home game to play Navy in Ireland. Penn State isn't giving one up either, Those would have been their road games at Navy and UCF. If one of our opponents wants to move their home game I imagine we would listen.
More "Home and Homes" with good teams around the nation would be cool. Something like Oklahoma or UCLA would be better than scheduling teams like Central or Delaware St. But nothing outside of the U.S.
It's called Ohio.
I barely remember this because I was 7 but State played Wisconsin in Tokyo in 1993. I remember it because my parents had friends over to stay up late and watch the game. I'm not in favor of Michigan doing it, but the fact that I remember that from when I was 7 is probably part of why teams like State sign up for stunts like this
I'm on board, would make an excellent excuse to go visit London if it were at Wembley like the NFL ones are.
But yeah, I'd rather see the AD put the energy into scheduling a home and home with Texas or FSU or something.
Those Brits, and I know first-hand from my British friends living and working in America, they will watch any sporting event on espn, at any given time. Put Michigan in London at their biggest stadium, and it will be televised around the world and if, by chance, we could be named home team, we'd have 90,000+ or whatever their largest stadium is, learning all our fight songs and cheering mightly as we take on any to be named foe. That's just the way they are. We would become London's adopted team, not unlike Russell Crowe, owner of the S. Sydney Rabbitohs adopting Michigan as his college football team. They are different, but in a cool way. I like it.
Never thought I would see the SS Rabbitohs mentioned in an mgoblog post. +1 to you sir!
I think they were discussed here in 2007 when Carr visited Crowe (and then Crowe returned the visit to A2, right after the ASU/Oregon debacles).
If it was played the first week, before school started, it would be a fantastic experience for the players. I think it'd be great. It is a bit odd though, nobody cares about football abroad.
NO NO NO!
Or is it a home game because Space, Bitches, Space
When I've heard of other teams doing it, I just think 'Why?' Then I realize it's just a publicity stunt. It seems like a desparate move - ND signed up to do it when they were still 'coming back' and Penn State is just grasping at anything. In othe words, its dumb.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM IN SEOUL! I'M YELLING!!!
There is an upcoming bowl game for MAC, C-USA, SBC, MWC, and AAC in the Bahamas. That would be a pretty nice international football game.
Let's go to that stadium in North Korea so we can have the attendance record permanently. Ambassador Dennis Rodman is tight with KJU, yo
If the bball team would come to shanghai like duke did a few years ago just for an exhibition match
College football games are meant to be played on a college campus. Bowl games are fine but not for the regular season.
but I could get behind an exhibition, or a Spring Game in China.
Ajax ArenA in Amsterdam is pretty sweet....
U of M basketball did a exibition during the summer in Europe a few years back. I like that scenario because it doesn't mess with their classes and it won't throw off their in season schedule.
Other then that scenerio I would say no I don't like it. It messes with students class schedules and I feel like the traveling and jet lag involved can set you back for the next week. The only time I have flown to Europe and back I felt exausted and thrown off for a few days. I would hate for that to mess up our preparation for the next week. Wouldn't you hate it if our team came out and looked tired the next week due to flying overseas just a few days before?
Also now you are talking about big costs to the university. Not only are you taking away a potential home game from their revenue, but now you have to fly the team, coaches, trainers, Equipment etc out to Europe. That wouldn't be a cheap price tag.