Great call on picking a Forlan/Suarez connection. Exactly what happened on the first goal. As a Fulham fan, I'm now conditioned to fear Diego Forlan.
Great call on picking a Forlan/Suarez connection. Exactly what happened on the first goal. As a Fulham fan, I'm now conditioned to fear Diego Forlan.
Yeah, that didnt take long.
54 goals in his last 61 games played overall for Suarez. He is on a run.
Forlan set that whole thing up. He's so tough once he gets the ball, you're at his mercy
do you have a bet on this game?
I took Uruguay to win. But they have to do it in regulation.
I dont know how comfy I am betting games where the bet ends before the game does, but laying -260 on Uruguay to advance breaks my rule of betting anything over -180 juice. I wont do that.
But, I've been on Uruguay the whole tourney, might as well stay on them,
I didn't wager on this game but hindsight being 20/20 and seeing how the game has started with a quick goal for Uruguay I like the tie bet. Uruguay hasn't given up a goal yet and might rely on that defense and allow the South Koreans to attack
Tell me more. I'm still connecting all the dots on where players once played and what they did. SO, did he rcrush FFC at some point?
Overall I'm been wondering why Forlan isnt still in the EPL. That highlight reel of his ManU goals looked pretty killer, that as a somebody who doesnt follow the club soccer I'm scratching my head why he's still not playing for them.
Anyone else who can provide the back story, fire away
Yes, Forlan scored both of Atletico Madrid's goals in the Europa League final a couple of months ago, including one in the 117th minute when it looked like a penalty shootout was certain. Final score: Forlan 2, Fulham 1.
As for Forlan at United, it took him 8+ months to score his first goal. In the meantime, the fans soured on him and I don't think he ever really recovered his reputation there. Sometimes I think United just shuffle strikers around to keep their fans interested. Letting Tevez go to Manchester City is another example of them dumping a really good, fairly important player.
I knew about the drought. The announcers on his WC game had referenced it, but had been otherwise complimentary and defended him as far as his EPL tenure. I had no clue it was 8-month long scoreless run. That's hard to stomach, I suppose, but I still think after seeing the ManU highlight clip would have been enough to make me forget real fast about that the drought
I'm still trying to get a grip on the leagues, the various tourneys and cups. I had heard reference of that game during the Uruguay games, but hadnt made the connection who it was against.
If u wouldn't mind sharing, what site do you use for placing bets. I have always used a bookie, but feel that online sites would be more user friendly.
they are more user friendly, and, frankly, a safer way to bet vis a vis getting in, uh, trouble.
I have used a varying times sportsbook.com, 5dimes and bodog and have always been satisfied with the service and betting options. 5dimes for college hockey betting, brotha!!!
BUT, its become really hard as of 6/1 to deposit thanks to a law passed in 2006. The current congress had been able delay implementation, there was talking about trashing the law altogether, hearings were held, but nothing happened and the law took affect.
I am still trying to figure out how to accomplish this. As a result, now we almost have to go to street bookies. that's not real safe for the average joe. But, hey at least our morals are in check, right gubmit?
I have been betting smaller because its soccer, so I dont know what I'm doing, but since I cant just reload the account on a whim, i dont want to empty the account due to bad soccer bets
I use Bodog. It's the only site I've ever used. The customer service is pretty good. One time I had Josh Beckett over strikeouts and he covered but the game was called due to rain. They called the bet a push. I called and complained and they reversed it for me. Covers.com rates them very low though so I don't know
Any ideas on depositing in the wake of 6/1. I havent been with bodog for a while, do they have accomodating methods for this
I haven't tried depositing since 6/1 so I'm not sure. I was aware that somet kind of law was about to take effect but I wasn't sure when. Now I wish I had deposited more or left more in there from my recent cash out. Do you think they won't be able to accept money from US bank accounts?
It basically prohibits US banking and credit card institutions from processing those kinds of transactions. My bank is complying with the law as of 6/1
Western Union, a Visa gift card and something called usemywallet.com have been suggested to me as possibilities.
Clarification: It does not prohibit our banks from taking a deposit from you from a check from on online. Meaning, you can still cash out winnings and put it in your local checking account or something. My understanding is this is a pure one-way law, to stop people from depositing money with onlines
hearing this I am very hesitant to even try opening an account as a first timer. Unfortunate that Las Vegas can't start their own site and have something similar to what you can do at any one of their many casinos. Not to get political, but legalize and let the government take the vig. I could see that being very profitable.
Port Elizabeth is going to host one quarterfinal game and the 3rd place game.
Cool schedule site:
The Koreans have been controlling the play for most of the 2nd half.
I wonder if that goal could've been avoided had the keeper been just a bit more committal.
South Korea GOAL!! Its a game now
but seems like Uruguay went into too much of a shell.
this rain is crazy. That might have something to do with the poor condition of the field
Does anyone else notice the ridiculous number of open seats? With the horns and low attendance I think this is actually a MLS game.
Brian's blogged on this here and elsewhere. One of the problems with having the WC in South Africa is that the cost of attending games is well beyond the means of many South Africans. Normally all these games are packed.
Now that was a shot
What a fucking goal. That thing bent like crazy.
absolutely beautiful goal!!!!!!!
Our turn. KILL GHANA!
. . .was just in the background on ESPN while they interviewed a very confident Ghana fan
is when Scott Van Pelt shows some national pride. American Cheese!
Bornstein vs Tagoe will be huge, he's looked dangerous the whole tournament.
sorry, didn't see Tagoe isn't playing, that surprised me.
It's what Bradley sent out against England, except Onyewu is out. Onyewu doesn't have the speed right now to stay with top strikers, and the U.S. has not been susceptible on crosses and corners, which is about all Onyewu is effective for at this point. Edu is someone who can come on at the half or maybe 60th minute to replace a defender if we need more offense, or to replace Findley and clog the middle if we have a lead. Gomez can also bring offensive energy in the last half hour or in extra time if necessary.
So if Findley's m.o. is speed and basically nothing else why isn't he used as a sub to sprint past tiring defenders?
Findley will wear down the Ghana defense and even if he can't finish it's obviously a positive. If need be, bring Buddle or Gomez off the bench to face the worn down defense. Not a bad strategy actually in my opinion.
I just don't think trying to run Ghana into the ground is going to work. I'd be much more optimistic with players who can keep possession and spread the ball from side to side, and force Ghana's defense to shift while positioning breaks down. Also, with all the knock downs Altidore can hopefully create against the shorter Ghana back line, having someone good in possession play close to him could be very valuable, and I just don't see Findley offering that.
Findley, Clark and Bornstein? I swear Bradley is trying to give us all a heart attack.
Inkoom for Tagoe is a defensive move by Ghana. I'm worried about Clark and Bradley holding up against Ghana's midfield 3. I was hoping for Dempsey behind Altidore so as to keep Annan occupied.
Can Findley use his speed down the left, allowing Dempsey into the middle?
Clinton in the audience with a couple of cases of Bud getting chilled.
The stars may very well be aligning.
You guys want a new thread or keep this one going?
This almost would have felt like a CFB saturday had the game only started an hour later
OH FFS!!! Not again!!!!!
Great shot by Boeatang
meh, Howard has no excuse for getting beat at his near post.
weak effort by Howard
I know what's up, World Cup!!!
I also know, what's up, the shut out, not again!
i didn't know Ghana knocked us out the last WC...
Never saw that one coming, well maybe with George Clinton...
Imagine how good we could be if we didn't play the first 5 minutes of every other game with our cocks in our hands.
I'd say we stepped on 'em there.
With cleats. >_<
That right there is why the Nats back line scares me. Horribly sloppy with possession from Cherundolo, Ghana deserves those mistakes with all the work they put in though.
i guess if you are going to make a deliberate one, you might as well give it your all...
I thought Ghana was supposed to be undisciplined, they look pretty organized to me
They're well disciplined at least on defense, but they're bad at breaking down set defenses. Unfortunately, we gave them a fast break.
Can't complain about that yellow card.
Is it me or does John Harkes sound like Pam Ward?
What the hell's going on with these guys? They look lost.
it looks like the team is getting more focused
their advantage in athleticism is apparent; speed makes up for a lot of mistakes in this sport
next to the other Bradley
USA looks awful
Bradley's starting line ups have been abysmal, teams have been poorly prepared and there is no excuse for all these first half substitutes.
Benitez or Raneri level tinkering with the team
but booting the ball up the field seems to have a pretty good chance to get intercepted
anyone but him knocks that in. geez
Lucky that wasn't a Pk.. Should have been...
Ouch! Slow motion ankle injury in hi-def...
This is a fantastic game to watch, two amazing opportunities. Bradley, Donovan and Dempsey are all looking good, Findley is at least running hard. Bad tactics by the US thus far though, out numbered in the middle, and still giving Ghana lots of room for outlets on the wing.
the Black Stars are too fast for that
through the midfield today.
decision to start Clark. unreal
we're gonna need to step it up
Halftime. Forward play has been crap. Altidore has to step up.
He has been so lazy when Ghana has the ball. There have been 3 or 4 occassions when their defenders have been just stroking it around with Annan (who looks fantastic) while he stands there.
The kid has a load of talent, but really needs to improve his work rate. Kind of showing why he struggled to get time playing for a relegated team.
LOL, Lalas surprised Ghana has been able to maintain possession. Has he never ever watched them play?
Ok, halftime gents... go get your daily bobble on!
feilhaber for findley. net win methinks.
Dempsey up front.
Last sub will probably be Gomez for Bornstein if we don't score by the 75th minute.
Great play from Altidore, huge save.
Why we have to actually have our backs to the wall to play like our backs are to the wall is beyond me, but it's an encouraging start to the half.
Harkes is really going to the well with the "U.S. team thinks better than Ghana" comments. Can a "scrappy/gritty" line be far behind?
without some level of angst, they've ratcheted it up a notch
Man, the Ghanians are FAST!
if we start sending guys forward, Ghana will take advantage of it if we mess it up
Anyone got a link for live stream of this? I arranged to have my satellite changed from DishNetwork to DirectTV but they delayed my installation and haven't shown up yet :(
Again, the Black Stars fly down the field...
Ghana's front 3 look tired, not pressing our back line nearly as had as in the first half.
is up there with a groin kick on the wince scale...
...that Ghana would be our arch-nemesis.
Now make it count
Have to score...
now for the penalty shot...
Didn't get enough of the post though.
to celebrate a PK!
Especially when your teammate makes the great play to make it happen.
Ha. My sooper skillz > you
Oh, close, Altadore
Yes, that's what I was going for.
really getting to the ball more than they were in the first half, good sign...
Doesn't even look like the same teams from the first half.
They don't know how to play a boring match. It's always exciting.
This is like a hockey game. Clean it up, ref.
just needed a finisher on the receiving end.
he just kicked and hoped for the best...right to the goalie...
Whenever I see defenders stop running with their arms up and let the opposing striker through, I want to castrate them. Ghana caught a break on that.
things are beginning to get tense...
Oh, so close!!!
Altidore. Only one "a".
How much fun is this?! I'm not a big soccer fan or shall I say football fan but i'm hooked!! USA! USA! USA!
But even I didn't think that was a penalty. They were pushing each other. Us probably more than them.
time is getting short...
heartbeat is racing...
Both teams are really starting to feel the pressure. 30 minutes of extra time could be tight.
go team go...
Has anyone noticed that the US is diving almost as much as Italy did this year?
I've seen two. And nobody is rolling around grabbing their face. Let's keep a little perspective.
man I'm hungry, I haven't had time to eat!
Oh this will be fun. Kind of cool, the Nats are losing their big world cup game virginity. Will be either crazy exciting or horribly depressing at this point.
This might be the best officiated game of the Cup so far. I guess we deserved that after the last two.
...was the first to flip a coin?
Was afraid that might happen - like the start of a new game.
Wow! still 27 minutes, tons of time left
Time for wizardry and heroics...
we always allow an early goal...so we have time to get the equalizer. Again..
cost us the game. unfortunate to say the least
this is old hat for us, USA! Go team...
Ghana looked better toward the end of the 2nd half, and the announcers were correct that this was an innocent kic that the US failed to defend. Ah well, still time.
That Ghana supporter looked SCARY!
Another lost opportunity...ah, the familiar feeling in my stomach begins to grow...
You don't need to post each and every thought and drifts through your head.
Two 15 minutes periods.
What a goal from Gyan. Have to give that credit.
because he felt he was or did commit a penalty, he should of kept palying...
...but stay black and die.
they're lucky to still be on their feet...oh, and time continues to tick by...oh, but this time will be added on, won't it?
Albert Haynesworth and Todd Bertuzzi don't know what you are talking about.
basketball seems plenty popular yet people like Anderson Varejo (or however that is spelled) parade around acting like they've been shot every time someone comes close to them.
You're right. It's all about the flopping. Nothing at all to do with the low scores, long games, and it's a game we aren't that good at.
Um. Funny you pick football to compare to. The NFL is designed for short attention spans. Sure, the games are wickedly long in total time. but each play is less than 10 second. So the view has to watch for 10 second or less, then they can go get another beer. With soccer, you pretty much have to be paying attention for the entire time. It's entirely different.
Soccer? Or football? Because the former might need an explanation. The latter would be insane.
yea, bring back the XFL, roughing the kicker penalties are disgraceful!!!!
This is not flopping, it's time-wasting. You'd see this in football and basketball too if the clock ran nonstop.
I would have laughed like hell if we would have scored while that jackass was lying there like he was dead.
from Ghana. Just pathetic and disgraceful. Even Darake is calling them out.
"every team in the tournament would do the same"
still plenty of time, calm down
It's not like I'm yelling at my tv or anything. I'm stating what I see. If you see it differently, fine. Doesn't mean i'm not "calm"
Gerald Laird does more with a baseball bat than we're doing with our corner kicks.
That idiot that laid there near the penalty area should have been booked.
Ref will add stoppage time, but there was nothing bookable about it. They called the stretcher to make the time legit.
And he clearly didn't add enough stoppage time on.
come on Landon...
Good job to win the group, but the defense just wasn't good enough to get to the next round.
The end result sucks ass, but you can't be overly upset with the effort. We've just got to figure out what the hell we're doing in the first 5-10 minutes of a game.
If the USA didn't play like dog shit for half the game then maybe they'd deserve to win. Also Bradley (coach) sucks.
The USA doesn't have enough talent to win a Cup yet. There are too many holes in the team, especially the defense.
It's a slow progress, but eventually more and more players will be at the top end of the european leagues. Wasn't Dempsey just this year the first ever american in a european cup final? Eventually there will be more and more players moving to top level clubs, and the feedback loop of more expose that brings will build more and more talent. Coaching kind of let the team down, but you can't really say they underachieved.
I'm excited to see where some of the US players move. With Hodgeson likely leaving Fulham it wouldn't be a surprise to see Dempsey move up. Donovan could definitely get in a good team. Bradley had a great tournament, looked great bombing into space and could move to a bigger club. It'll be interesting to see how Altidore does in a lower league for a year. It's a slow process.
And you could have done a better job as the coach? I'll believe that...
But I've heard from somewhere he's a hell of a ref...
Congrats to both teams. The US played a fantastic World Cup, they attacked well and were a joy to watch. No shame in losing at this stage, definitely didn't under achieve.
Ghana is a fantastic young team, the fact that Muntari (won the european cup this year) doesn't get on the field till extra time shows how strong that midfield is. Great, great game, the most entertaining I think I've ever seen the US take part in.
good game, just one lightning strike too many needed by the USA. Good effort by our team, heroic, tough...the dream ends...
Now to go find out what kind of fresh hell the Tigers have waiting for us...
I think the real story of that match was that the U.S. had dead legs from the start. They dug deep to put some pressure on early in the second half, but they had nothing left after that. The disallowed goal from the Slovenia match really loomed large in that sense.
Robbie Findley being a second-rate striker and Bradley's inexplicable decision to start Clark over Edu - who really, really impressed the last couple of matches - also played a role, to be sure. The U.S. still falls into the habit of wasting the ball too often also, and that became especially apparent in the second half, when Dempsey and Donovon's legs were too heavy to control the ball well.
To be honest, that was an ugly, boring slog of a match. Still, the U.S. played their hearts out this tournament. At this point, I'm hoping for an Argentina-Brazil final.
The disallowed goal from the Slovenia match really loomed large in that sense.
Huh? That was something like a week ago and during the first stage. At some point in time, you need to move on.
To be honest, that was an ugly, boring slog of a match.
Huh? Were we watching the same game?
There were a couple of logical steps I left out - my point being that had the U.S. been given 3 points for the Slovenia match, the Algeria match would never have become the marathon test of wills that it was. The U.S. would have already been comfortably in the driver's seat for the group.
And yeah, this match was largely disjointed and ugly, except for about 20-25 minutes in the second half. To put it another way, the U.S. defintiely deserved a goal or more against Algeria. I don't think they really deserved another one against Ghana, especially outside the aforementioned burst. I guess we had different perspectives.
It was the general shape of the team. Bradley was just naive to think our 4-4-2 could contain that midfield. 2nd half we matched them with three in the middle which freed Donavon and Dempsey to attack, and they also picked up their game pressing when out of possession. Ghana also looked a little fatigued after working so hard that first half. Still, a great game from the US, they had plenty of chances to win it so no complaints.
I'd like to credit Bradley with the cajones to swallow his pride and make the necessary adjustments, but I also want to throttle him for starting the game with such a poor tactical strategy. The most obvious manifestation of this is his decision to start Clark over Edu, but it still took the change you mentioned for the U.S. to develop any kind of threat. Unfortunately, the players' already tired legs were wasted over the first 45 minutes until the adjustments were made, and then there were no more bullets left in the chamber for extra time. I just think about how Dempsey was trying to single-handedly get the team into the game in the first half, and how dog-tired he was near the end ... and I can't help but blame Bob a bit.
I'm no soccer expert, but the other thing I noticed is that the team always seemed a little sharper with Feilhaber on the field, and not just because he was fresh. I had to agree with the announcers when they said they wondered why he never started (the only thing I did agree with them on).
This was the match that finally punished us for lacking finishing quality.