Wolverines in NBA Discussion Thread

Submitted by Derelicious on

Hi everyone,

This is my first board post so please be gentle... But I have definitely taken a larger interest in the NBA this year over years prior in large part to the influx of Wolverines in the NBA.  The season started out rough for Stauskas, McGary, and Robinson as they weren't seeing very much playing time and Trey Burke seemed to be struggling a bit as well.

Lately, McGary has capitalized on his minutes given and has developed into a strong role player with a bright future.  With Sacramento out of the playoff race, Stauskas seems to have been given a few more minutes lately and he's hitting a better percentage of his shots.  His minutes are still quite limited.  Burke seems to have gotten things back in order though he definitely seems to be turning into a high volume shooter (for better or worse).  GRob is still riding the pine in Philly which doesn't seem to bode well for his future.

Jamal Crawford is still doing Jamal Crawford things in LA.

The Victors

March 26th, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^

I live in Utah and have for the past 7 years. There may be a few irritated Jazz fans on the internet, but I can say the majority of the fan base likes Trey Burke. The majority are pretty realistic in accepting that he is an above-average player and good scorer, but is not the next Chris Paul.

He has to take a lot of shots with the current Jazz team in order for them to have a chance. The rest of the team are very good defenders, but that's about it.

EastCoast Esq.

March 26th, 2015 at 9:27 AM ^

Good first Board post. Congrats! I was a pro sports fan long before I became a Michigan fan, so I like the topic.

As a Sixers fan, I am very disappointed about Robinson. Philadelphia was probably the ideal landing spot for him. Brett Brown has done a very good job in developing NBA-fringe wing-type players, and the team is so bad that there is plenty of PT available for raw prospects. The fact that GRIII can't get on the floor either means he is just the bad, or that he is in Brown's dog house for whatever reason. Neither would be a good sign.

Hopefully he can get it together.

EDIT: GRIII got 3 minutes last night and put up all zeroes except for 1 turnover and a minus 2. Oof.

Derelicious

March 26th, 2015 at 9:28 AM ^

The way I see it, he came out of college as a super athlete but not very skilled or good at defense.  To make it in the NBA going off of raw atheticism and limited shooting/dribbling, you better be a strong defender and rebounder.  He's going to have to develop either defensively or REALLY develop his shot.  

ijohnb

March 26th, 2015 at 9:29 AM ^

will end up being a player, there is no doubt in my mind.  If the Kings are looking to deal him at some point I would love him to land in Detroit.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

March 27th, 2015 at 3:54 AM ^

He probably would already be a Piston if not for that idiotic Ben Gordon trade a few years back that wiped out our first round pick.  He landed in that exact spot where our pick was supposed to be.  

 

 

Yo_Blue

March 26th, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^

How can you not appreciate John Beilein and his team concept after seeing his players struggle at the next level.  Eventually in the NBA's eyes they will begin to question the value of Michigan's NBA-eligible players.  It's the age-old question of "Is it the player or the system that is working".  

Trey's game and size has not translated well to the NBA although he is smart enough to figure it out.

Nik will get there eventually but probably not in Sacramento.

The Big Puppy was a top recruit out of HS so it's no surprise that he is starting to excel.  His playing time was limited in AA so he is still learning but his ceiling is pretty high.

Tim is Tim and can eventually turn into a sixth man type scorer off the bench.

GRIII is athletic.  That may not be enough to cut it without some team giving him a serious shot at playing time to develop a game.There aren't many opportunities like that out there.

champswest

March 26th, 2015 at 11:06 AM ^

enough to figure out if the player has what it takes to make it regardless of the system that he is playing in. Even I could see that Robinson's NBA position was the 3 and that he didn't have the handle or the shot to play there. He needs to hire a shooting coach in the off season.

Pit2047

March 26th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^

Trey Burke is a pretty good back up PG and there is nothing wrong with that. 2013 was a bad draft at every position except C where it was surprisingly deep (Alex Len, Nerlens Noel, Steven Adams, Kelly Olynyk, Gorgui Dieng, Mason Plumlee and Rudy Golbert all went in the 1st and have started and played big minutes). The Jazz are lucky they got one of the few useful players.

I agree, Tim is a 6th man scorer which is a great thing to pick up at 24th overall.

Nik was probably picked too high and is a victim of "New Owner Syndrome." Thought it would have been great for him to go to Chicago.

Mitch is doing Mitch things unsurprisingly.

Glenn just doesn't have the requisite skills to be a NBA player. He's not a plus shooter, not a plus ball handler, not a plus defender and not a plus rebounder. I hope he figures it out because if he become good in even one of those categories with his athleticism he will have a long career.

AC1997

March 26th, 2015 at 9:49 AM ^

I definitely think there is a need for more regular updates on former players on this blog. Some other sites (TTB, M&B) do a good job with football alums, but even UMHoops is erratic with coverage of former bball players. My suggestion to you, however, is to back up your generic summary with specifics about their performance or at least links to their player profiles. Otherwise I appreciate the post.

MDot

March 26th, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^

Stauskas will be fine, his skillset absolutely translates to the NBA, and we know about his work ethic. I hate to play on this particular stereotype, but it's the same thing that happened to JJ Redick early in his career. It took a while for him to adjust to the level of athleticism, but once he did, he turned into a valuable NBA player...and Stauskas has even more talent than JJ does.

 

Tim Hardaway Jr is a streaky shooter in the same vein of a JR Smith, Nick Young, Jordan Crawford, etc. He'll never be a star, but his ability to get hot is valuable. He's just in a horrible situation.

 

Everyone who was skeptical of Trey Burke's skillset/athleticism translating to NBA have been justified. The Burke/KCP argument should be dead now...especially with KCP looking like he's finally figuring it out.

 

GRIII is a 6-6 tweener who can't create his own shot. Should have stayed. He's athletic, but can't put it to use unless he's finishing alley-oops.

 

Mitch McGary is what we thought he was. Being a skilled, pretty athletic big with an extremely high motor will usually translate.

Sac Fly

March 26th, 2015 at 10:00 AM ^

Morris signed with the Nets early in the season and he's stuck on their roster as the 3rd guard. He doesn't get many minutes, but it's nice to see him stick on a roster after bouncing between teams on 10-Day contracts.

modabomb

March 26th, 2015 at 10:03 AM ^

I still see McGary as having the highest ceiling of the five rookies/sophs. With his motor, his passing skills, his talent, he'll be a starter one day for sure, barring injury. Especially if he develops a midrange game, which he began to do even at Michigan. Outside of him, it's hard to imagine anyone other than maybe Stauskas becoming a starting-caliber player, though I'm still optimistic Trey can become a steady 6th man-type player. GRIII won't last in the league barring a complete renaissance, for reasons we M fans already know. And Tim will have a role somewhere if he can rein in his gunner instinct and actually, you know, play defense.

Stauskas/THJ/GRIII have probably developed some bad habits playing in crappy environments (especially Tim), but it'll be years before anyone ought to make definitive conclusions about any of these guys. They're all still so young.

LSAClassOf2000

March 26th, 2015 at 11:57 AM ^

The celebration put on my Hardaway after that sinks is fantastic, in my opinion. More players should develop something like that for threes or otherwise difficult shots. 

To the OP, well done on a first thread - like someone said, some recent game history and a little more detail and you're right there. Good work. 

 

Derelicious

March 26th, 2015 at 10:25 AM ^

I see McGary developing into a Joakim Noah type of player (with a prettier shot).  High energy, reliable with the ball and solid rebounder.

I think Trey has to become more of a distributor.  Perhaps as his team adds more talent he will start to play more in the Chris Paul/John Wall vein rather than Brandon Jennings/Kemba Walker/Damian Lillard.  He just isn't tall or athletic enough to generate on his own as effectively.

Streetchemist

March 26th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

Nailed it on trey. His assist numbers are way too low. He needs to become a 14 ppg 8 apg player if he wants to stay a starter. Part of that is just how bad the Jazz are offensively. Exum is the worst offensive player in the league.

Streetchemist

March 26th, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^

I wasn't blaming his issues on Exum. It was just an example. Also when I say the Jazz are bad offensively, I'm talking about the current team that no longer had Burks and Kanter and an injured Hayward and Hood. If you've watched them at all after the all star break, you'd know what I'm talking about.

Streetchemist

March 26th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^

Looking at the stats says one thing, watching him play 30+ games says another. Worst in the league was an exaggeration on my part. I could be slightly impacted by his most recent offense which has probably been the worst in the league. Last 5 he's shooting 14%, 8% from 3. He's very young at this point and obviously will get a lot better. I only brought him up as an example of why the Jazz are struggling so much on offense.

Padog

March 26th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

Ummmm no he's not. Have you watched him play? He is a rookie and still adjusting to the game. Heck, he's probably better than nik at this point. To say he is the worst in the league is ignorant.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

March 27th, 2015 at 3:59 AM ^

I thought they all should have stayed, but the best landing spots for most of our guys would have been on OKC type teams - teams on the verge and teams that will have success and can bring them along slowly.  

No surprise to me that Mitch McGary is having a lot of success - OKC was the perfect landing spot.