Opening tip around 1:00. Go Blue.
The CBS sports stream is causing my Chrome to crash, is there another stream out there? Any help will be greatly appreciated guys.
Help. I am concerned and worried about this game. Here is why:
We live in the south (Atlanta) and my dad and I are huge golfers. We ALWAYS plan our weekend golf schedules around Michigan games, and always plan around football Saturdays. With the usual good weather we get down here, basketball season isn’t an issue because if we have a mid-day game on Saturday or Sunday, we will play on the opposite day. But with the recent ice and bad weather, the golf course we play at has been closed for the past week or so. Today is the first day it has been open, and my dad, who has a case of cabin fever, is forgoing the Michigan game to play golf. I will be watching the game in my usual spot, as I can’t concentrate when Michigan is playing. You may be wondering why this is an issue and I’ll tell you. There have been VERY few instances where my dad has chosen golf over a Michigan game over the past 10 years. Basketball used to be a non-factor because we were bad/no BTN, but we don’t miss either sport. Here are the ONLY OTHER previous instances where he did not attend games and played golf instead:
- Wisconsin @ Michigan, Football, November 20, 2010 --- Wisconsin win 48-28
- Michigan @ Wisconsin, Basketball, February 9, 2013 --- Wisconsin win 65-62 OT
- Michigan vs. Wisconsin, Basketball, March 15, 2013 --- Wisconsin win 68-59
My dad is playing golf today.
HOLD ME MGOBOARD
How can I break this curse?????
I don't blame him, very first day the course is open here. I wont care whose playing, Im out of the house and on the course! I'll just avoid this site, turn my phone off and DVR the game.
No offense but your dad is a selfish ass hole. If his voodoo ruins my Sunday I will never forgive him. Especially because this is against Bo Ryan
Blue beat them clowns
We need this one. Beat the Badgers!
Here are the comparison stats from TeamRankings...
|Avg Score Margin||+9.9||+11.1|
|Effective FG %||53.2%||55.9%|
|Off Rebound %||26.5%||27.4%|
|Opp Effective FG %||46.7%||48.6%|
sounds like a pokemon character.
lol, sorry guys.
Go Blue, beat the Badgers.
negged for not being a B1G enough douchebag
Negged for wanting me to be more of a douchebag.
Did the dad in this interview segment preceeding the game just describe something as leaving him "butt hurt"?
If we can hold serve today, I'd have to think we've got a top two seed for the Big 10 tournament just about wrapped up, and anything less than a 15-3 finish in the conference would be somewhat disappointing. Let's do it!
Don't let a badger go ham and shoot 8/10 from 3.
Is it just me, or is choosing to dress as Mario and Luigi to root for Michigan kind of dumb, given their primary colors?
Anything to get on TV.
In the silent split-second before the national anthem, one fan very audibly said, “I hate you, Bo Ryan.” That was wonderful.
— Ace Anbender (@AceAnbender) February 16, 2014
Looks packed. Hope it's loud.
Let's Go Blue!
WTF. That guy was all over Morgan.
GR3 looked sick on that play...
I'm glad they are not donning the white uniforms. They need to scrap those. Make blue the home uniforms and maize the away uniforms.
Nice putback Glenn.
Catch the fucking ball
The three point thing is happening again.
LeVert has to get that pass to GR3 on the curl quicker. A split second late and its a 5 point swing followed by a bad deep two... Come on Caris.
Well, this isn't going well so far.
Little movement offensively.
Love these starts. So much fun.
We stand around more on offense?
Does Wisconsin not know how to miss?
Something obviously isn't working. Maybe, ya know, call a fucking timeout?
Refs are letting everything go underneath early
We look like microwaved crap. good for TV timeouts
Why does it always take 10 minutes for us to start playing D?
We better get some post defense or we're looking up at Sparty.
We simply need to handcheck and grab as much as they are. If the refs are letting it happen, we must do it too. Seems like we can rarely adjust to that in game
Stauskis has been very aggressive.
I've heard a rumor that he's more than just a shooter. Any truth to this?
What is with these starts lately?
Play some, please.
THJ's theory on Coach B's preparation may be off.
A couple missed offensive opportunities followed by threes in transition. Gotta play smarter with the ball in our hands and we'll be fine. No more trying to alley-oop Morgan in traffic or contested long twos early in the clock from LeVert.
Wisconsin on pace to score 112. But I bet they won't.
Our defense is just bad, and it's not improving. Open threes and free will to get to the paint. GR3 just gave the baseline to Dekker for the layup. Pathetic.
These guys seem comfortable with being down and then putting down the throttle.
gr3 lets his guy blow by him, morgan doesn't help walton out on the 7 footer, than morgan lets his guy drive for the easy 3 ft runner.
Since MSU game, we have really had a problem getting off to good starts, hopefully this one doesn't come back to bite us like it did at Indiana and Iowa.
Geez, could Robinson possibly had better post position when we totally ignored him out of the time out? Give him the ball!
Did Walton not get hit on that shot?
standing around and getting owned again on D.
We just need to grab, slap and foul in those situations. Refs won't call it today.
So....that wasn't an intentional foul?
and struggle against not-so-great bigs.
Self-confidence growing on the offensive end, bodes well as we get closer to March.
Looking for Irvin to come in on fire and make it rain.
Is there a single good reason he's not starting over GR3? Maybe a benching will light a fire.
Robinson , I love you but you're lazy.
Understatement of the year!!!
or are our high screens just awful? They is at least two feet of space there and it's as if the screen isn't even there.
English so good. Yuck that was embarassing. Sorry grammar police.
How do Nik and Caris let that go?
So humping is allowed now? Good to know
Also pushing off with your off hand
Wake up guys.
Do we have the worst home court advantage in the B1G?
of quality teams that win, yes. It's always less than the gifts IU, MSU, Wisconsin get at home.
It's hard to come back against Wisconsin. They're probably the worst team to spot a lead to.
Offense just kinda slow to come together today. Wisconsin looks much more in sync, maybe because they just played a couple days ago and we haven't since Tuesday. Now hopefully that goes from disadvantage to advantage as the game wears on. But we've got to find some direction in this offense.
I don't, but I'm sure there are lots that agree with you.
Those tall white guys (Kaminski, Woodbury, etc.) are really annoying.
Imagine how annoying it would have been if McLimans was a good post threat. That would have been annoying for opposing fans.
Make moar baskets
Supplement: Allow fewer.
Create for others or himself like he did in the 2nd half of OSU.
I like to play a game I call Gary Mick. What would the statline be for a healthy McGary if he played for the current Michigan opponent?
Today, I think he would go for 26 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 assists.
just awful D. can't anyone check anyone and stop the drive?
Dekker complaining about that foul? You could actually hear him slap his arm.
That was a great take by LeVert, in any other conference he would have been rewarded with two free throws
Not bad reffing today. But I just can't believe they called that on Wisky and not the others
I'm really confused by the offensive gameplan today, it seems like we're ISOing at the top with little movement around the arc as LeVert or Stauskas penetrate.
If Irvin isn't going to shoot he doesn't do much for us
Yeah, about that...
Too many 1 on 1's to start the game
No one hustles back on defense
Good lord we are playing awful on the offensive end today.
Tough when you get mugged every time you go into the lane
Man, Wisconsin has gotten away with much more contact.
We are getting dominated. Did not come to play so far. Hard to understand in such a huge home game
Team looks good so far. Turnovers, late rotations on D, don't check out anyone. Do the kids think today is a scrimmage? Wake up boys.
GET A REBOUND!
Offensive rebounds galore. Terrible.
You are in to rebound. Do your fn job.
stand there again and give up the rebound on the free throw. jump!!!
No offense, no defense, no rebounding. Not a recipe for a good game. Hard to watch so far.
The baseline defense is not excitant. Wisconsin has luck on their side, they'll slow down.
Anyone else just yell, NOOOOOOO-YAY! on that GR3 shot?
I got hives the minute he started to dribble
Can we have a big man guard kaminski please.
just front him or make him go left. not that hard really. gr3 just lets him catch it and back his way for the easy deuce. 2 or 3 times already.
at all. Good news is we are not too far behind to get our heads out of our butt.
Might be time to go with Morgan and Horford on the floor together, Kaminsky is just taking GRIII inside without any resistance.
Why is GR3 matched up on Kaminski? Giving up too much height in that matchup.
I dont understand it either we are giving up six inches in the post. How do we expect GR3 to guard him.
if gr3 can't handle dekker, he shouldn't be on the floor.
I wouldn't wait for a run. We need a TO to make real adjustments.
Gave up two offensive boards in the same possession, really?
Difference so far is Wisconsin just keeps attacking the basket and we don't. It doesn't help that we don't have anyone that seems capable of defending the paint, either. But when you drive, good things happen. Our offense doesn't seem to want to attack.
Kandinsky is making GRIII his bitch.
I have been avoiding these lately, thought I would check in... reconfirmed my beliefs...
This is about when we turned it around vs OSU. This stoppage will help us.
Clearly Michigan didn't come to play today.
Also, this piped in music is fucking awful. Oldies from the 60s?!?! Come on. God that is awful music.
Wisconsin fouls 2-3 times on each possession. That's why they always bounce in March.
just savaged, Got to stop that ball from coming in that low.
Just look out of sync on both ends. Offense is stagnant. Defense is switching well, but Wisconsin has been making shots and isolating when they have a matchup advantage. Rebounding has been poor as well.
Walton Irvin Stauskas LeVert and Horford
They go to the basket: foul. We go to the basket: get hacked no call.
We've had 2 fouls called on us. They've had 5 called on them.
And that's UW getting many more offensive shots...
Your analysis is a little flawed.
They went to the basket out of control and got a call when any/all contact was made by the offensive player. If you are watching the same game, there's no way you haven't noticed M attacking the basket and getting fouled and slapped and grabbed numerous times. It's happening. Look closer.
Morgan is a step slow today
Bad shot by Stauskas leads to another secondary transition 3....
A 15 point deficit against Wisconsin is like a 25 point deficit against most teams. This is feeling like Iowa.
Just like last year. Later in the season the team forgets how to start a game.
This is a fucking joke. I hate Wisconsin so much.
3 blind mice out there officiating.
NO FOUL ON WISKY ON THAT REBOUND?
I think I hate watching games against Wisconsin so much because by the end of them I have no idea what is a foul and what is just "good defense" and it makes me question 27 years of watching hoops.
Alright, Decker. I'm ready to fight. Whenever you're ready, get the fuck over here.
Ahh yes fighting a 20 year old college student is always a good plan. Get a grip weirdo.
It was clearly a joke, you fucking ass.
You say it enough that it's not a joke Darth.
Yeah.. What the hell was that??
What if he is also a 20 year old college student? That's significantly less weird. :)
We might as well play zone.
I'm offering all my MGoPoints for anyone who stabs Bo Ryan in the face
If that's not over the back I don't know what is.
We're lucky Wiscy is not up by 25 right now.
Can we please do something on the boards
Kamisky is coming over the top on just about every rebound, but damn we are giving up too many offensive boards.
Basketball is complicated
Thanks Nik. Needed that basket.
Fucking slam him to the court when he bring that shit in the lane
We are going to get beaten by 30 by MSU.
The entirety of our offense consists of long twos. Its horrible
Thanks for that hard-hitting analysis.
Just another game where I'm hoping the team can cut the deficit to single digits by half.
Gotta get some shots inside 17 feet.
We are taking godawful shots.
We've devolved into shooting contested threes. This one is done. Sickening
More like contested long-twos.
Turning this off at half time unless we make a run. I'd rather go the library than watch this.
I blame the guy who let his dad go golfing!
Starting to really have an Iowa feel to it. This isn't the time of year to just stop showing up for big games.
They just called that a foul. I'm done. Switching to radio so at least I don't have to see this travesty
Beat the Badgers!
each defender of ours getting abused big time by each wisky guy. gasser has been the only quiet guy but i think even he drained his only 3.
getting "out toughed" by this wisky team is an absolute joke.
The 3rd period of Canada-Finland is starting. At least that game is competitive.
Might as well sit the starters and play the bench. Hell, they may actually keep it closer.
Why can't Jordan Morgan get a rebound? How is it that I learned how to box out in Junior high school but nobody on Michigan knows this? We play horse with everyone but when they shoot well, we get blown out. Weekends have been our curse for 3 weeks now.
I hate to say it, but if we get any closer than 8 from here on out, I'll be surprised. Wisconsin owns the boards and drains the clock. Perfect style for holding leads. We let this one get away too early and too far. Seems like we expected them to roll over because we rolled them pretty well the first time. Oh well, now my expectations for a long tournament run have been tempered.
Even after the past four games, the lack of hustle is shocking.
comeback starts now
is, to be nice about it, not a very good player. He's crazy undersized to guard Wisconsin's center, but he has apparently given up on offense. He should've gone pro last year-- the Flint Tropics would have loved to get him.
RGIII is a beast. The Redskins just suck.
my bad. RGIII would probably be a better college basketball PF than GRIII at this point.
Wisconsin looks nothing like they did a month ago - we aren't getting nearly as many good looks offensively
Well, I think it's pretty obviously that Michigan is going to embarrassly lose this game.
Yeah you're right. Turn your computer off too while you're at it. There's no point in you being on the open thread either.
and all will be well. Assuming that is, that coaches cover that whole "defense" thing at the half
But when does some of this blame get put on Beilien and the coaching staff. We continuously come out slow, cannot defend and are almost always either out of position for rebounds or don't crash the boards at all. Honestly, what are they working on during the week? Its the same problems that come up time and time again. That to me speaks more of coaching than player ability.
The blame for being first in the best conference in basketball? In sure Beilein will take that blame all day long.
Michigan has vastly overachieved this year.
Wisconsin was ranked #3 in the country for a reason. This is the game we expected to see at the Kohl Center.
I'm not saying I'm not upset, but Wisconsin is a very good team. A better team on an individual level. Their offensive efficiency stats have been through the roof all year and we have not been a good defensive team all year. This shouldn't be shocking.
So many stupid turnovers
Owned by Dekker. Again.
we have a smaller quicker lineup. yet everyone of their guys drives by ours like it's nothing.
Wisconsin is just hustling more. This is a rout.
That play by Dekker really shows the difference in effort
It's been a great year for ruined weekends between football and these last three weeks of basketball
Hold on to the dang ball
We haven't been the same for almost a month now. I think we peaked too early. Hope they get the killer instinct back in time for March.
Holy shit they might not break 20
Sometimes I feel like our team doesn't talk at all. We get the ball knocked out from behind atleast once per game when all someone has to do is tell the ball handler he has pressure.
We're panicking. Underneath the covers, we're still a young team.
I don't want to watch them lose by 15 to Wisconsin at home. I will watch the score and return if it gets within 10. Good day guys! Go Blue.
you should be expecting that pass of the screen. good lord.
GRIII will be back next year. No way he is drafted in the first two rounds. "Athletic" only gets you so far. For a guy with wheels, he really moves poorly on defense.
We need to figure out how to defend bigs by denying them the ball in the first instance. Once they get it low, we are neither big nor strong enough to stop them. Get better at this fast, or we'll need to shoot 60+% to beat Sparty
about GRIII, in that people think he's fast. He's not. He's got a slow first step on offense and doesn't have quick feet on defense. Notice that he usually guarded by a guy much larger and seemingly slower than him, but he can rarely get into the lane. Part of that is his weak handle, but part of that is his speed. He can jump high and has some good moves to finish once he's at the rim (not just dunks, but lay-ups around defenders and so on), but he isn't a complete athlete who can just out outrun, outjump, and outmove guys.
Just tuned in. This is brutal. This team might might be done for the year.
So basically this is Wisconsin's best half of the season coupled with our worst half of the season. Cool beans.
Proof that Gene Steratore is actually eating his whistle.
This team is schizophrenic. Either really good or completely terrible.
Kind of. Great in Jan, terrible in Feb.
Irvin's light is too green
We simply do not deserve to win the Big Ten. This team has a lack of leadership on the floor and no true captain. 16 points in the first half with 2 to play? Joke
Well, they have a leader, but unfortunately he is out for the season.
Caris with too much dribbling again.
This is just hard to watch, we can't get any rhythm offensively, and to compound that we're being extra careless with the ball.
So pissed I just shaved off my beard LOL
Good thing we've saved out timeouts. Wouldn't want to stop the offensive show we are putting on
Wisconsin has gone somewhat cold and we still cant make up ground. This is terrible
C'mon Burke, Do Something!
Worst half all year
Maybe not, but sure feels like it.
show some fucking pride
I really feel the same way. The youth in this team (Nik and GR3 obviously included) just seems to bring a lack effort.
Is Michigan going to drive to the hoop? Or will they let Wisconsin handcheck them out to the perimeter.
15-18 is going tot be very hard to come back from in my opinion.
This board is a clinic in overreacting right now
From what I've seen this board is taking a fifteen point defecit at home in the first half pretty well. Did you see this board during the Indiana game? That might have been overreacting. This all seems pretty reasonable given the circumstances
Levert two big threes or this would be even worse
No dude, that was literally a Murphy's law of a first half.
to see the offense continue to struggle.
We're getting owned in every category. This is pure domination by Wisconsin. It's going to be a miserable second half to sit through.
This team should be fucking embarrassed with how they're playing. Getting blown out at Iowa I can understand. But not showing up at home, in front of your crowd, is an absolute disgrace. If this is the kind of effort they feel like giving today they might as well not come out of the locker room at half.
This game has shown where we really miss MM.
Burke far more. The offense has no center of gravity.
yikes that's terrible
We could have used those 3 points at the end.
Didn't realize gr3 didn't suit up today.
Honestly he hasn't suited up since Christmas
Don't worry, he will be back to show his OUTSTANDING POTENTIAL against Illinois.
Enough of the shitting on GR3 if you're not willing to look at other players either.
Stauskas has been just as bad, if not worse. LeVert is failing at playing hero. Irvin has chucked with total disregard to anything. Morford has been Lessford.
At least GR3 is battling amonst guys much bigger than him for rebounds. The last 10 minutes GR3 was a big part of slowing down the slaughter.
playing pretty well. We'd be down 20+ without him. MorFord isn't good, but no one in their right mind thought either of them were going to be offensive stalwarts. Irvin taken what, three shots? He's a 3 point shooter put in the game for the sole purpose of sparking offense with his shooting. Stauskas is the only one who is close to GR3's level of shitting the bed today.
**Update: 4 minutes into the second half Stauskas, LeVert and Morgan are all playing much better. GR3's contribution: late help and a goaltend.**
Death to nets or something because that's all Wisconsin hit.
Too high of a percentage but not the biggest issue. Michigan is clueless today
going to have to shoot lights out in second half, AND figure out a way to deny the ball coming inside to the bigs.
not a road
i.e. a tough row to hoe.
that for all intensive purposes he could care less.
This team looks like it hasn't played a game together before. Coaches didn't have them prepared. Players are getting out worked, out hustled. Nobody showed up today but the fans. Glad I wasn't able to make the trip today.
That was brutal. Ugh.
We look way worse in person you guys
I'm 100% sure there is no difference between what they look like in person and on television.
were you watching on tv as well?
Lol @ Beilein walking off the floor at half. He had a look of "fuuuuuuuck".
I think we should be down more than we are. Let's start the half off with a run and then widdle it from there.
and hold them scoreless in the 2nd half, we can still win this 38-34.
Don't know what's up with Morgan. He's slow on everything today. His hedges are half-hearted and his recoveries are lead-footed and late. He could easily have another 3 fouls on his sloppy hip checks as Wisconsin drives by him at will.
Totally out of character and why we've seen Morgan on the bench more than usual, I'm sure.
I noticed that earlier. It looks like he's moving in mud.
You act like this is the first time Morgan has played this way. I love his dedication, and I'm not saying he's lazy. He's just really not that good. At the very least he's extremely inconsistent. Be honest and ask yourself if he would start for any other top 25 team.
He wouldn't start on this team if it weren't for injury. What's your point?
I'm the biggest defender of Morgan because people see him miss a "gimme" on offense and don't understand why Beilein has him out there. He's out there for his defense and particularly his ability to hedge and recover. That ability can stifle teams that run the pick and roll well. It's Morgan's strength and even when he's struggling on the boards or on the offensive end, that's what you can usually rely on him for.
However, not today which is totally out of character.
Our offense looks about as good as Illinois did yesterday. Dribbling around just sort of waiting for something to open up. Have to attack. 19 points from this group is underperforming no matter how good you think Wisconsin's defense is (and it hasn't been particularly good this season, either.)
3 pathetic performances in 5 games. Beginning to be a pattern.
Haven't been able to see much of this fortunately. From what I have seen, it appears the refs are allowing a physical game which is definitely not our strong point.
really hasn't found an answer for the defensive strategy being employed against stauskas. and stauskas has not found a way to counteract this defensive strategy.
without stauskas, this offense is not sustainable.
and without a solid offensive performance, our inherent defensive ability is terrible.
Alright Beilein, time to do what's best for your staff and the program. Fire Borges
Nuss is in attendance, someone tell him to go to the locker room to help
Maybe he can have us switch to a zone blocking scheme for the second half?
My eyes are bleeding
absolutely brutal that first half. 4 pts and 3 reb - combined. their counterparts: brust, kaminski and dekker - 27/19. pathetic.
That's good... right?
absolutely brutal that first half. 4 pts and 3 reb - combined. their counterparts: brust, kaminski and dekker - 27/19. pathetic.
Let's not let Stauskas and Irvin off the hook. GR3 has all 4 of those points - the same as Stauskas. Stauskas is just 2/6 with 2 turnovers. We need him to turn it around first - if he can, the rest will follow.
I believe we can still win this game.
I've been called crazy lots of times in my life.
Not sure if these things coincide
Irvin's lack of offensive production was another huge blow for us. He plays worse D than GR3 or Levert, but when he's draining 3's that's an acceptable trade-off. Not so much today.
The four factors stuff, in case you wanted to know:
Michigan eFG% - 36.36%
Michigan OREB% - 25.00%
Michigan fre throw rate - 18.18%
Michigan turnover % - 22.76%
Also, no assists and a 0.71 PPP.
Wisconsin eFG% - 48.39%
Wisconsin OREB% - 42.11%
Wisconsin free throw rate - 25.81%
Wisconsin turnover % - 2.82%
Also, 4 assists and a 1.25 PPP.
You know how sometimes you watch a game and then see some stats and you're all like, "whoa, I didn't realize that from just watching?" This is not one of those times. Nice to get the confirmation of how bad that half was haha
Games can turn quickly, but that might be the worst half of UM hoops in years. They trail Wiscy 34-19 and have 0 assists, 0 blocks, 0 steals
— Bob Wojnowski (@bobwojnowski) February 16, 2014
summed it up pretty well.
pulled down 6 rebounds (4 on defense) in his 7 minutes. the rest of the team grabbed 7 defensive rebounds that entire first half. morgan and gr3 have ZERO defensive rebounds today. complete joke of an effort.
Is it just me or does it seem like pretty much every rebound has been right to a wisconsin player? I understand that there's some strategy and technique to rebounding, but it just feels a lot like luck. Or, if you're Dan Dakich, the ball just knows it wants to go to a wisconsin player
I am not looking forward to next weekend. Payne might embarrass us and apparently we are content with being embarrassed now.
My hopes for a comeback were lost when Irvin checked in, set up for one of his big 3's, and airballed it.
we are definitely playing toward the easy basket this half.
Morganis playing so badly today
Why? How the hell is that GR3 shot even part of the offense right now?
We need to tighten up on D. Even if we get the offense going we can't give up easy hoops an tons of offenstive rebounds.
Swedes just clinched first seed in playoffs
how was that not an offensive foul on jackson. He ran over morgan
Come on guys. Keep it up.
At least they are bringing the energy this half.
And then Morgan just stands there and watches the long rebound instead of getting it
Call a fucking foul on these drives jesus
They finally call the bump on Morgan
Wish we would have come out with this kind of intensity in the first half.
We are still getting out scored anyway
why did we suddenly get really bad at passing the ball? it feels like every other pass is a turnover
I hate this Kaminski guy
Robinson's draft prospects from last year have to be the only thing keeping him a starter. Time to send a message and end the charade.
Yeah, so far he's been...inconsistent, to put it nicely. But he plays better defense than Irvin, so there's that, at least? It's not like there's a significantly better option right now
Oh my god LeVert take a charge....
That Nigel guy just tossed someone out of his way before he got that layup
I would trade GR3, Horford, and Morgan for Kaminsky (sp?).
Can't seem to crack the defecit, we've played harder these first 4 minutes and have nothing to show for it.
That rebound on teh defensive end can't hit the ground without us even going for it.