no, YOU'RE off topic
Wisconsin loses to NW
Good lord. UM's quality wins are looking less and less quality at this point.
What do you mean? We totally beat Northwestern already.
AND Nebraska! IN Nebraska! Teams just don't go into Lincoln expecting to get a "W" nowadays.
Whoa I used that line like weeks ago dude. I demand royalties!
Sincere apologies, smwilliams. This was my gut instinct reaction, so we must be wired similarly. My best internet plagiarism filters didn't catch that one. I'll have my people contact your people to hammer out the best royalty deal possible to avoid further litigation.
You know we have beaten teams 2-5 in the league. Penn State and Northwestern pulled upsets tonight, and we beat them by 13 and 23 respectively. Stop being such a Michigan fan and thinking that it is all going to fall apart. We're 7-0 in the league fergodssakes.
I think that is OK
You're doing it wrong, man. Does the SEC take that train of thought when LSU loses to Vandy or Kentucky beats SC? No, that just further proves how tough the SEC is.
B-1-G! B-1-G! B-1-G!
Well UM can't play UM; therefore our SOS will suffer.
Keep our heads down and keep gunning for that regular season banner.
Pure insanity! All these upsets are quite entertaining, but they're making me more nervous about games like the game tomorrow night against Purdue.
You only stay on top of the world for so long.
this is an older team though... I doubt they overlook anyone
It has a senior that plays significant minutes? Just the one, but that's more than before!
about Purdue since the end of the win over State. Any game in any sport immediately after a maximum-level emotional win like that one is hard to get up for.
I'm just glad it's a home game and that Beilein is our coach.
that struggles to close. Wiscy not as good as we thought. Ohio an out of control tire fire. I think Minnesota will be a tough out in the tourney if they make it in.
At this rate, it would not surprise me if Michigan and Michigan State finished a full 5 games clear of third place in the conference.
Has that ever happened before?
Best four teams are Mich, MSU, Iowa, and I dare say NORTHWESTERN
It's still early so let's see what happens the rest of the season but I'm impressed by the job Chris Collins has done there. But to be honest you could put anyone in that 4th slot, the B1G is crazy after you get past Iowa. There's a whole bunch of mediocrity there.
Little surprised Wisconsin is this bad after a strong start, one the pundits called the "best start in team history".
Also math called it that.
And I'd probably go wtih the Gophers for the moment for #4. But yeah, after Iowa there's a significant drop off at the moment. I'd think OSU and Wisconsin both get it together at some point. Wisconsin tonight was just totally unable to hit a three. Even guys who have been automatic in the past, like Brust.
Gophers are good but they lost to Nebraska...who has also beaten Ohio State. B1G is crazy this year. I love it.
Just a huge dropoff after Iowa, and you could put anyone in that 4th slot.
Basically I'm eliminating people with home losses to teams they should beat. Which brings you down to Minnesota, Nebraska, and Northwestern. And I suspect Minnesota wins in Lincoln if they have Andre Hollins healthy.
Hollins's replacement in that game, Malik Smith, made 8 threes and scored something like 28 points.
He averages 22 minutes and got 34. So he's a pretty regular bench dude when Hollins is healthy and getting his 30 minutes.
True, but he also was only averaging about 10 ppg going into the game and nearly tripled that, so he pretty much accounted for Hollins's lost point production. We're not talking about replacing Daniel Horton with Mike Gotfredson here.
I think Wisconsin will get it together (at least I hope so when they play Sparty), but Ohio just plain can't score points.
Northwestern may have won the game, but I suspect they'll be facing 40 minutes of full court press the rest of the season. I guess I understand Collins not teaching them how to break a press as he likely thought they would rarely have to keep a lead down the stretch.
It's hilarious to watch Wisconsin players overreact anytime a foul gets called on one of them. It's so rare that it happens that when it does they can't believe it. I can't stand that team.
They were mugging Iowa the entire game and when they finally called a few fouls on them late, the MSU guys looked shocked.
I've never seen a team get more home cooking from the refs in an away game than MSU got vs Iowa. Those refs were terrible.
So glad we have a class, old school guy like Beilein and not a nut job like Ryan, Crean, or Izzo.
You and I'm sure lots of other Michigan fans.
Time to strap in for one hell of a BIG finish to the season.
...for the last bye? If we take care of the games we should win we should at least a share of the championship. Hell, even if we blow a couple, we should still finish third.
I fear an uprising of the crab people!
Anyone who takes a night off in this conference is gonna be sorry
I mean northwestern is 11-11 overall, its possible that the big ten just isn't actually that great this year.
Whatever creates more separation between them and us. There's a lot of basketball left to be played, no doubt, but whatever gets us closer to a Big Ten title and a higher tournament seed.
The funny thing is there are so many people saying that the Big Ten is mediocre. Let's look at the RPI which yes is flawed but is much better than the football rankings.
There are three teams not in the top 100: Purdue (108), PSU (125), and Northwestern (130).
Two of those teams, hopefully, are going to move up so pretty much all of the BIg Ten is at or below 100 in the RPI. That i insane.
As for SOS. There is only one team above 100 and that is Purdue at 123. Seven of our teams have SOS in the top fifty.
There may be few elite teams but this is a rugged conference that can go toe to toe against any other conferences.
Northwestern is up to 98th, penn state to 100th in RPI. Let's just hope the last team stays below 100 until at least the weekend.
but we seem to run out of teams that really seem tough after UM/MSU/Iowa. Would not surprise me if Ohio/Wiscy/Minn messed up some people in the tourney, but they do not seem to have what it takes to make a more substantial run.
Must see TV in the battle of December champions and now has beens. Coach Dracula vs Karl Malden. Loser goes to the NIT.
OSU hoops - the gift that keeps giving.
Ohio, not as sure. They just do not have the talent they have had in years past, and completely lack a go-to scorer.
When Wisconsin comes to Crisler, I hope we blow them out of the arena like two years ago.
Can't take a night off. Have a wired feeling about the game tomorrow. Hope Michigan doesn't lay an egg after 3 big wins in a row.
Just got back to the hotel after liquid dinner. Totally excited watching BTN in Vancouver!! Penn State and Nebraska in the first time since ... Forever! ... winning on the road.
Go Bleu eh
After the game, I looked at Wisconsin's final numbers. Woof.
15-57 and 5-24 from 3-point land, which is good for an effective FG% that is all of 30.70%, compared to Northwestern's 55.20%, which for the Wildcats is phenomenal. Wisconsin outrebounded the Wildcats and had a better free throw rate and even a better turnover percentage, but your droughts at the rim cannot be on the geologic time scale.
It will all work out as long as we take care of our own games.