Terrible for Detroit :(
Winter Classic to The Big House
Spartan teers help me justify that.
Please tell me how you could see the game better in the upper reaches of comerica compared to the big house? You wanna talk sightlines? Try sitting near the concourse at comerica and watching a tigers game.. Not to easy.. Yet the seats near the concourse at the big house.. No problem. I completely agree with everyones' assesment.. Dtown wont be fixed by a hockey game..
An a bomb maybe but what would we so without ford field?
Exactly how is this game "terrible" for Detroit? It replaces one home game. There are 40 other home games, not counting the playoffs. There are 81 Tigers home games. There are 10 Lions home games, counting exhibitions.
I don't think the city of Detroit is going to suffer too badly losing one home game. The publicity that the franchise gets by playing in this game will more than compensate for any "loss" suffered by Detroit.
needs to take advantage of every single potential opportunity it can get. It's not just one home game, it is the only regular season showcase with a national hockey audience. The National hockey fans will see the Big House and say "that is pretty cool", but it tells them absolutely nothing about Detroit.
I don't think it really helped Detroit. I dont think any more of buffalo for hosting one of these
Detroit needs more than an outdoor hockey game to fix it's problems. Besides, wasn't hosting the All Star Game and the Super Bowl and the Final Four in consecutive years supposed to put Detroit back on the map and get people excited to go down there again?
You can't solve 40 years of corruption and horrible management with a couple nationally televised sporting events.
Completely agree. Little spectacles like the WC, Super Bowl are a drop in the bucket when it comes to the fundamental issues in Detroit.
I am excited and will be in a winged wheel for the game. Go Wings!
"Death of Manufacturing", "The Riots" and "Suburban Sprawl" just called - they also want a spot in the "Detroit Has Problems" team picture.
That picture needs to be taken at a distance so you can fit the whole team.
Sports will not fix any city's issues, but three straight days of 40,000 people packing Comerica Park will help bring revenue into the city.
They're still talking about setting up a rink at Comerica for the alumni game and possibly the GLI, so they can still make it a great event for both cities.
My snark obscures the fact that I actually agree with you in terms there being some benefit to Detroit (w/o the "three straight days of 40,000" part - not sure we'd see 40,000 for the main event in CoPa because of seating and sightline issues). Strictly from a venue or event standpoint, Michigan Stadium proved to be a pretty good host for outdoor hockey.
All these events have not and were never expected to fix Detroit but Detroit has improved since. I work downtown and a ton of new businesses popped up. This is all we can ask for. I love the idea of the Big House getting more national coverage, I love hanging out on Ann Arbor but I just think the NHL is making the morally wrong decision.
I don't know if morally was the right word but you know what I mean. I'm just saying it is kind of wrong.
I would love to help out Detroit as much I can by attending Wings/Tigers events and eating at local establishments. However, the NHL has no obligation to help out Detroit. Their only obligation is to produce revenue. Lets face, the NHL will produce much more revenue in ticket sales, concessions, and merchandise at Michigan Stadium than at CoPa.
I'm really curious what ticket prices are going to be. Hopefully not comparable to last years Winter Classic. I believe they were $79-$299.
...as much as anyone here, but the city needs to get its act together way more than it needs self promotion. Detroit doesn't have a perception problem, Detroit has a reality problem. If and when the city's leadership manages to get an economy running, schools teaching, and crime under some semblance of control -- when they've done all that, they can hold big public events and call attention to what they've accomplished. Until then, don't we have enough pictures of the ruins?
Tired of people whining about Detroit. Do I want Detroit to do well, heck yes. If they keep voting the same people in, tough luck. Go blue! Amp it up in Detroit and take action. Corruption out!
This outdoor hockey fad is getting kind of old.
Because ice rinks were never frozen ponds and lakes.
I wasn't able to make the Big Chill, but did make the Frozen Diamond and despite the weak attempt by Ohio at putting on an outdoor game, it was really cool. There was a ton of energy, and even though the sight lines weren't perfect, it honestly felt like my childhood playing pond hockey out on the lake.
I vote for 1 outdoor game per year rotating among the 6 teams once the B1G hockey confernce goes live.
I accidentally + 1'd you so you're welcome. I don't think it's getting old at all but on the heels of Ohio's embarrassing attempt at an outdoor game it probly seems way less exciting.
I think that only HockeyTown can pull this off in a positive light. I will toss in Toronto and Montreal as well. I doubt Calgary or Winapeg could be as successful. So The Big House does not seem a far stretch. I just hope they dont break the record.
They are made for tv stunts. I understand wanting to be there for the moment, but you can't tell me that you can see the game better. I am sure UM is getting paid and there are a lot of reasons for hockey to do tv stunts.
They should play a hockey game on the deck of an aircraft carrier next.
Yeah, the Big Chill sucked. The perfect sightlines, great ice, full marching band, fireworks, and 5-0 drubbing of MSU were such a drag.
Of course it's a stunt, that's why we only do it once per year. But when you set up the rink properly, like we did w/ the Big Chill, it's an awesome event to attend. 100,000+ at a hockey game turns out to be pretty damn cool.
I'm with you on this, sort of. Having been to 2 outdoor games, they atmosphere is just not the same. Sightlines and the lack of game sound really change the experience, and the ice is generally terrible so the game is much slower. I've talked to a few hockey die hards who feel this way. Still glad about the TV exposure it brings to the game.
I had an unbelievably good time at the Big Chill and everyone I spoke to did as well. Every other year at M Stadium sounds about right to me.
I'll be at the game wearing Blue, but nonetheless supporting the Wings.
As weird as the whole premise sounds to me, it's going to be pretty awesome seeing the Wings take to the ice at the Big House. Comerica Park was probably more sensible for the city but it'll get way more publicity at the Big House. Also a little surprising considering the Illitch connection with the Wings and Comerica-- the NHL didn't really do him a favor but whatever.
Next: rawk concerts and corporate advertising throughout the stadium.
I wouldn't mind seeing DMB in the big house.
Seriously. I don't have anything against using the Big House more than 8 days per year. It's a kick ass stadium built to pretty much obliterate attendance records. Why not use it for select really cool events like big concerts for U2, DMB, and other bands I like (no stupid pop music), pro hockey games, lacrosse games?
I understand it sort of make the "specialness" of only going into the stadum at most 8 times per year, but it would be a nice way to build publicity and get some revenue so we never have to have advertisements there.
Apparently though, the tunnel is too short for most stage equpment.
If DMB is Dave Matthews Band, kill that idea with fire.
I imagine parking is a bit of an issue for a lot of potential events. If the golf course has 6" of snow for the Winter Classic parking will be a nightmare...that is to say a bigger nightmare that what it already is.
Agreed. U2 played at Spartan Stadium last summer after Michigan said no because the Regents wouldn't allow alcohol sales in Michigan Stadium. There's no way the NHL would put on an alcohol-free game, so they must be paying a premium for it.
With TOOL as a the opening act
They're coming to the Palace, you know.
I'd love to see David "Bling" Brandon's business plan for the next 5 years. I get the feeling Champions League, MLB exihibitions, and Olympic trials aren't out of the question.
If that means Nastia Liuken will be on campus for a while, how can you argue with that plan?
I'm confused. Are you against professional teams on campus? Hockey in a football stadium? Any outside source of income?
I'm all for revenue streams that don't cause me more to see football games.
not be surprised if "Bling" is negotiating for a Shuttle Launch from the Big House with an All-M crew. I would like to see that.
Excellent! I'll attend the game in my wings jersey, with 'M' hat. And I'm glad they picked NYD to have the game... that'll give me a week to rest and get to Miami to see Michigan play in the MNC the following week!
Having grown up playing on the frozen puddles of farm fields I've always despised all those pretty boy hockey players in the big cities with their fancy uniforms and indoor rinks.
They need to start building hockey arenas with retractable roofs so that whenever it's cold enough it can be played outdoors like it should be.
Also, there should be no teams in places like Miami, Phoenix, Los Angeles, etc. That is total BS.
I doubt very many (if any) NHL players have ever played pond hockey. The NHL is reaching back to a time that hasn't existed for several generations but there is something about outdoor hockey that just feels right.
95% of good hockey players that live where pond hockey is available play pond hockey - they probably also play organized indoor hockey, but pond hockey is what hockey is all about.
For example, the skill most necessary in hockey, skating, can't be replicated anywhere other than on ice. And since mainting an ice rink is expensive, even AAA travel players rarely skate indoors for more than 7 hours per week. Think about if you lived in a colder climate and were a kid on the weekend. You could easily get that in 2 afternoons. Take a look at the NHL breakdown of player origin:
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at least 80% of those players come from cold climate countries (and that's not even including the US, where most of its players come from northern states).
I didnt skate indoors until I was 12, I started at 5. Our biggest problem was the "January Thaw". It took another week to get the ice just right. I hated that.
We had our own version of Title IV. The neighborhood Dads made us share the ice with the girls too.
Because no NHL team in a warm weather climate has ever accomplished anything right?
Does this mean tickets will be easier to come by??
I will be there, but only to buy booze and to say I did so in the Big House.