Josh Helmholdt on Rivals just posted this:
"he has announced for UCF at this schools' press conference..."
good luck to him down there...
Actually, more like CMU for Florida.
Where does Miami fit in?
Woah woah woah, you're either a Sea World guy, Disney guy or Universal guy...
That or the plethora of hot coeds at UCF.
Dumb, but very attractive.
Same has been reported by the Orlando Sentinel:
wow his cousin must have had a mjor influence on him as well as his high school teamates. but it worked out for brandon so i hop him all the best
I still say this is a huge lose for the recruiting class, however, now we have another scholly available for next year. We can now go after some elite OL DT's next year. Next year should be all about DT OL TE and WR's. That will also be dependent upon who stays and how well our players play this year.
of his thoughts re: next year's needs.
Funny thing is, I have no clue what Brian thinks. I don't care what Brian thinks and don't ever listen to what has to say. Not being mean I just don't read his posts and have never listened to him on the radio. So say what you must about me being a parrot to Brian's thoughts that is fine, but get your facts straight before you make an accusation.
Man, chill out. Brian is the only reason all of us can even come to mgoblog and post comments (parroting or not) and he maintains this site to the highest standard of any sports blog I've ever been on. You may not always agree with what he has to say but he tries his best to give the best information and analyzation out there. If you don't care about what Brian thinks why do you get so riled up about some other person's inane comment?
Dude that was a hit to Brian at all, I was simply expressing the fact that I don't listen to Brian on the radio nor have a read any of his posts. You are exactly right when you say this site is the best in all of sports, I never knocked MGOBLOG one bit. The posters commented about me being a parrott, which I simply trying to disprove.
So are you saying you're simply here for the board?
I'm not going to attempt to explain myself to someone I don't even know. Just that it was not a dig to Brian at all. I simply don't listen to him on the radio and don't read his posts. As for the comment about caring about what he thinks, I don't he is his own person, he has his views and I have mine. If I pissed you off by my post so be it. I am not your friend, nor am I attempting to be. I hardly ever post and when I do, it is people like you and the jack wad that initiated this that prevent me from doing so. Just because my thoughts and beliefs differ from yours gives you nor anyone else the right to call them into question. Neither of you know who I am nor what I am thinking and that it the way it is going to be.
by taking someone else's opinion and dumbing it down a bit (... a lot)
Another scholly for next year is a load of crap. In essence, due to the time it takes for player development, it means you have lost a minimum of one year.
As Brian rightly posted last night, we have essentially lost five scholarships this year. Sure, you can add them next year, but you have lost five player years of development time and that plain sucks.
As young as this team is, I really don't think that is going to be a major concern. I do understand your point and agree with you to to a certain point, however, I just don't see as a big of a concern as you are making it out to be. There are players out there that are ready to play now in the B10. Hoke and Co, just need to go out and find them. This is just my opinion. I really think we will be just fine in the long run.
All signs say we could have signed Lucien or Flowers if we wanted them at WR. This was a deliberate decision by Hoke & Co. So putting that on DB and the Decision is disengenuous at best. It's not a simple numbers game as we all like to make it seem...
I am not blaming Brandon, although the timing was his doing. It is an opportunity lost, plain and simple.
I completely disagree with your comment that it is not a numbers game, because it is. Recruiting and player development is always a matter of timing. If you are stocked to the gills with talent at all positions, that's one thing. Unfortunately, Michigan isn't and that's why to take fewer talented players this year or any year than you are capable of recruiting should always be looked at as a loss.
this makes little to no sense to me - i thought for sure Michigan would land this kid. Oh well leaves a spot open for a 5star LB next year :)
*EDIT - best of luck to Willingham at UCF, I think this kid will wind up being a real good college linebacker.
I get that he would want to be with his buddies, but that's pretty unbelievable. I hope he realizes his family and friends out in Colorado are going to have a tough time finding his games on TV without a really nice satelite setup.
It takes a really long time to read your post in the voice of your avatar.
but in this case I do: if LW values a degree from the University of Central Florida over a degree from the University of Michigan, then we're better off in the short and the long run. Good luck to him.
US News Rankings:
He was planning to business school. Ross is Top 5, dont think UCF business school is ranked anywhere
of getting into UCF Business School than getting into the B-School. B-School is nearly impossible to get into unless you have 4.0 GPA in college and has outstanding extracurricular activites.
Nevermind the degree, if he cared about his future as a football player he would never have made this decision. Michigan and UCF are not comparable in terms of national/NFL exposure. If this kid was serious about either academics or football, he could not have made this decision. Probably better saving that scholarship.
Yes, the bitterness tastes sweet in my mouth.
Saw the same article - How the heck are USC and UCLA ranked ahead of us?
see you never
It's disappointing to lose a recruit, but I'll book this under late starts and "consequences of The Process".
In the future Hoke and staff should be able to get into high schools much earlier in the process and "influence the sale of UM" to recruits all the way to its conclusion.
You're absolutely correct that next year will be far more advantageous to Hoke and staff. However, I also think that kids reveal themselves by the choices they make. LW hasn't had much more contact with UCF than he did UM, and the fact that he allowed himself to be swayed by friends and whatever else UCF offers—while he had a Michigan offer on the table— speaks volumes about him. While it may not be apparent now, I think this is a case where we're winning by losing.
this is just such a typical college football fan message board post:
He chose a different school!?
Whatever, we never wanted him anyways!!!
umm... yea, okay...
It makes sense though. You want kids with the right priorities, and this decision says to me that Willingham values friends and social scene above his football career and his academics.
I want Michigan players to hold themselves to Michigan standards.
if you have NFL aspirations, NFL scouts will always find you regardless of locations. They travel all over the country and go to several schools to watch practices and watch school game films(5-6 game worth). Saying that choosing an inferior school will hurt your football career is not true.
It has nothing to do with scouts and everything to do with preparation. At UCF he is going to be playing against lesser competition, have access to lesser facilities, and presumably be coached by someone lesser than Greg Mattison.
I think you put too little weight on the influence of family/close friends. Sure, from a purely objective standpoint his decision doesn't make sense, but you can't just rule out the influence that family and friends can have. I don't hold it against him for "allowing" himself to be swayed by family. Best of luck to him.
More room for Ross and RJ-S
He should have a year of eligibility left!!!
Someone made a post today on Scout's board, with quotes from RJS on his twitter account saying, "SMFH thats BS!! Im diffently not looking at no more schools in MI!! ALL OF THEM JUST LOST MY INTREST! ALL OF THEM PLAY GAMES
LIFE GOES ON IF U WANT TO SEE ME PLAY COLLEGE BALL COME DOWN SOUTH!"
Things can obviously change but I don't think he's to happy about not having a offer yet.
This is not a huge loss. Save the scholarship for next year when you have 2 big in-instate LB recruits.
If I had an offer for a UM athletic scholarship and degree vs. UCF, man, no brainer.
But for some people they just hate cold weather, I guess.
Even if they do hate it, man, an offer for a shot at a UM degree is a sweet deal IMO.
It's his life and his choice. I don't understand it, subjectively or objectively but I don't have a say in the matter.
Good luck at Ucf and that tough Conference USA schedule.
He can more likely play right away and get on the radar right away for pro scouts. Not endorsing that strategy given his choices but maybe that plays a part in his thinking.
that you have a much better shot of getting drafted if your a subpar LB @ UM than if your a stud for 4 years in CUSA...
you'll also be a better player for going against real competition...
you'll have a real degree...
you'll make friends who will play in the NFL...
on & on & on & on & on & on....
I mean, isn't Obi the 7th rand ILB according to ESPN/Mel Kiper?
Let me get this straight.. this kid throws away a prepaid 180K education for UCF.
Unless this kid's family is loaded, this is a titanically bad decision. I mean, kids are stupid but his parents.. that's just upsetting.
/ Here's to him proving me wrong.
Yeah! It's all about money and nothing else! Screw that 17 year old kid!
he's screwing himself.
But, like, he's totally going to be one of the 2% who make it to the NFL. And he'll most def be a first or second rounder, with an 8+ year career. So no worries.
Because no one that's graduated from UCF has ever gotten a job, right? Some people just don't care that much about making millions. Maybe he feels comfortable with the school and thinks he'll actually like it there.
I agree, besides, according to Harbaugh, Jim that is, M doesn't do right by their football players anyways.
Its all about the hot ass that's walking around that campus. I'm not big on the new construction, generic looking buildings, and terrible academics.. but hot damn they have some fine looking females there.
This is very true.
On this year. Glad to have the guys committed to Michigan - welcome. Lets face the facts, the Coaches did the best they could but we all new that there was going to be limited upside to recruiting after DB's coaching change miss-timing
We have a top 25 recruiting class, people!?! Granted, we lost out on Kris Frost and Dee Hart, but that stuff happens. It's over! Congrats to all the new recruits. Those who stay will be Champions!
I'll keep the feedback moderate as credit should be given to any young man that chooses to come to Michigan and put himself through the academic and physical grind of the team; however....we did not fill our major needs at OL and DT. Needless to say, ALOT of work will need to be put in for us to be competitive for a B10 Title in 2-3 years.
Just seems that some people are overstating the quality of it.
Hoke and co. did a great job of keeping players around, firming up (most) of the commits of existing recruits and filling out the rest of the class.
Is it a top 25 class? Rivals thinks so. Scout and ESPN don't. The point is that yesterday people were talking about how it was a potential top 15 class and that Hoke/Mattison had done a phenomenal job of bringing in talent which isn't necessarily true, at least not to the degree people are talking about.
You look at the guys Hoke brought in: Carter, Heitzman, Bellomy, Wile, Clark should all be good but with the exception of Wile are project/redshirt types. You've got Taylor/Bryant/Rawls who were all leaning blue before the change. The 2 big ones they brought in were Poole and Barnett. Barnett will get PT as a freshman and Poole could be a star once he gets some weight on him.
We also lost Fisher, missed out on Cooper and inexplicably lost Willingham to UCF when he was supposedly a silent commit.
TO STATE AGAIN: I'm very happy with the job they've done. Brandon put Hoke in an impossible position and as far I'm concerned Hoke deserves an A for the job he did. And that probably makes the class a B-. I'm not trying to trash anyone, it's just that let's not pretend this is a phenomenal class. It's a good one. Not too many immediate contributors (partly because we shouldn't need them) but a lot of players with star potential down the road. But not the world-breaking group of kids that people in the liveblog yesterday seemed to think it was.
+1 for your thoughtful response but like I said, Yawn - exactly for the reasons you mentioned. I expect a dynamite 2012 class
He visited Florida in the middle of winter and was able to do a compare and contrast weatherwise. He's also close with a guy going to UCF and there has to be an attraction to going to school with your friends. I know that weighed heavily with me when I was making some life changing decisions. While unusual to pick UCF over UM it's not that hard to understand. Best of luck to him and I hope he does well.
Good luck to him. I look forward to watching his UCF games on TV...
George O'Leary, the guy who lost the Notre Dame job back in 2001, after it was discovered he lied on his resume about earning Master's Degree in Education from NYU, which was found to be false.
Everyone makes mistakes I guess.
Wow in last 3 years we've lost recruits to Rutgers (Knight), Tulsa (Beaver), UCF (Willingham), and Wake Forest (Sousa). Never thought that would ever happen in a million years. Well I give props for Hoke for keeping class together and bringing in some good prospects, but time to see how he handles the X's and O's.
Good luck to the kid. But I'm guessing he's a little flaky, given the Texas A&M thing. And then the "silent commit" to M. And now CFU. Maybe it's a blessing.
Were you saying the same thing about Barnett? Then, no.
Let's say for purposes of argument that you are 18 years old, and don't have contact with many people with M degrees; you don't hear much about the school and its credentials. And let's say you're about football and not so much into academics.
Let's say you like it where it's warm, your family and friends don't really have a lot of college experience, and your dream in life is to play football. You haven't heard much about Michigan's academics, and it's possible that's just not important to you.
In such cases, you may be looking at the world a little differently from the academic whizzes who would be really excited about being accepted at Michigan. Or maybe, you've heard that everyone in your classes will be academic stars and you are concerned that the school work, combined with the athletic work, will be too much for you.
This may especially be true for an 18 year old football player. I'm not saying it's good, bad, or indifferent, but people are different from each other, and have different goals and aspirations.
I wish all these young men the best of luck, and I hope they're happy with their choices down the road. That's all that counts, at least for me.
I hate recruiting.
Willingham's small ego wouldn't fit in at U of M.
But another thing to turn away from College Football and sign up for UFC...
Im a lifelong Michigan fan but went to UCF. I would rather see him come to Michigan but I can see why he went to UCF. Their facilities are second to none and they have built a lot of buzz after their best season (beating Georgia) with a freshman quarterback. They have a lot to build on
I guess he doesn't like the cold. : - /
Good luck at UCF, Leilon.
Denver Post article provides Willingham's side of the story:
But [Rayshon] Williams' presence, Willingham said, really wasn't a factor in his decision.
"That was just something that came along with it," he said. "When I made my decision, I took football and Rayshon out of the picture. I took that coaching staff down there out of the picture. None of that's guaranteed to be there. Ray's not (guaranteed) to be there. The staff might not be there. I just thought about where I felt comfortable going to school for the next four to five years."
In retrospect, it's pretty clear that his "silent commit" to Michigan shouldn't have been taken that seriously:
Mullen AD Tony Schenbeck said Willingham committed to each school after each of his official visits. When it came to signing, though, "I just felt most comfortable at UCF," Willingham said.
This is exactly why I no longer follow recruiting as closely as I used to. You used to be able to take a young man at his word. A commitment on a recruiting weekend should ALWAYS be interpreted as "I had a good time".
Let's see, his last 2 visits were first to a place where it was about 10 degrees. His second was to a place where the sun was shining and it was probably 55-65 degrees warmer. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.